(Acts 18:23-21:16) Paul was not forced to leave the city by the authorities after this riot, but he evidently decided it was prudent to do so and set off for Macedonia.
Paul revisited the churches in Macedonia, then went to Greece, where he stayed for three months. As he was about to sail to Syria, some Jews laid wait for him, so he returned through Macedonia.
@hithere3355 read the chapter in the bible called ACTS. You will find your answers there. I'm not talking about the macedonia the greeks stole in 1913. The bible states st.paul travelled to macedonia then southward to greece, if macedonia was in greece wouldn't the bible just state he went to greece. I thought macedonia was unified with greece, st.paul preached 300 years after alexander, if alexander ended the city states why doesn't the bible state greece on its own.
on the fourth time bulgaria agreed feering that if it does not macedonia will stay turkish forever. bulgaria fought against turkey taking the major weight of the compaigne, while serbia ocupied macedonia meeting almost no resistance from the turkish garnizon. when turkey was defeted ,mainly thanks to bulgaria, all former aliae of bulgaria turned against it - exept MOnte Negro. Bulgaria ended up fighting all its neighbour at the same time and thus loosing macedonia forever
We are not slavs .We are Macedonians, only Macedonians like Ancients Macedonians,
March 23, 1881 SSSR, Moskva. !... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov ( Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me)
This Greek letters Α,Γ,Δ,Ζ,Θ,Λ,Ξ,Π,Ω are in the grave of King Filippos (ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) in Pella. What you are trying to do ? You are trying to succed Titos plan to save FYROM land from Bulgaria..? History is written in the ancient marbles not in the history books of Tito..MAKEDONIA was a Greek Kingdom, so Greek as the Athenians,Spartans,Cretan,Aegean cities,Korinthians,Thessaly,Epirus.. Uneducated
Колко са заблудени феновете на Ал. Македонски, който между другото се е е.ал с коня си. Но така или иначе те нямат нищо общо с него. Те са само българи от Македонския край.
Macedonia is not bulgarian, it hasen't been for a long while now. Macedonia is slavic, but not specifically bulgarian. We can be firends but there will not be a unification.
eh, i think your wrong. The macedonian territory was already destroyed by the romans when the slavs got there in 6th century. But the ancient peoples of macedonia and parts in greece were slavitized after the slavs took over. The macedonian territory has remianed slavitized since then, despite what the greeks will tell you. Thus we are a mix of both slavs and ancient macedonians.
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
17gian17. Stop living in a dreamworld boy. Grow up. FYROM is north of Macedonia and is actually in the land of the bitter enemies of Macedonians, the Dardanians and Paeonians. So if you are not Bulgarian you are a kid of them. You only relation to us the real Macedonians would be if our ancestors raped your female ancestors. But you are not Greek. You live north of us. You are sworn enemies of Macedonia. Your grandfathers fought for greater Bulgaria wearing the Bulgarian emblems and flags...
@WindGod12 You are Out Of your mind. ... We are Macedonians, Not Not not Bulgarians. Especially I hate Bulgarians. I hope Turkey destroy all Bulgarians.
We are Macedonians.
We descendant to Ancients Macedonians.
Do You Believe That Alexander the great was Relative to Your Bastard nation??
There is overwhelming evidence and old maps that show macedonia in our territory. Im not out of my mind. This is history. Your country was our territory when bulgaria didn't lose any of its territory due to wars. You hate bulgarians because you don't want to admit the truth. Turkey tried to destroy Bulgarians but we kicked their ass in 1878 so stfu. Your language is exactly the same as ours. Difference is: macedonian uses bulgarian dialect. I dont need a translator to talk to you.
slavs came to macedonia in 6 ad but no ancient macedonians found cause they have fled to thesalonica or thrace or constandinople.you mixed with noone you claim since then greek land we threw you out from byzantine to 1900 acepte that.never macedonians
@FlankerVTголям карашик сте вие, ама най вече в главите, комшу, щото ако питаш баба си и дядо си,едва ли ще ти кажат нещо такова, но че си българин от македонския край-точно ще ти кажат.....айде, жив и здрав бъди
The relationship between Bulgaria and FYROM is like the one between a boy and his retarded brother.Sure he is retarded and doesnt know where he belongs,but we still love him,since he is our blood.
are u referring to greece not invading? They did invade, they stabbed bulgaria in the back with the help of serbia. Thats how they were able to take back agean macedonia from the bulgarian slavs. And that is how the serbans got control of the rest of macedonia. They took it when bulgaria was busy fighting turkey, protecting the asses of the rest of the balkans, Greeks are fucking pussies and not to be trusted,
Because, it would be a lie to say i am fully bulgarian. I am not. I have some serbian, vlach, and a little thracian inside of me too. Also, there is a chance i may have some greco-roman blood too. History and gentic background is not such a simple thing. Why won't some of the greek people admit that they are predominately turks or byzantinians?
Abre tikvinici,kako moze da bide Makedonija Bugarska? Dali imate i drugi Republiki vo Bugarija pa togas da kazete ja imame pet Republiki i Makedonija sest. Koj vi gi polni glavite so bumbari,dajte nesto drugo ucete ama ne za Makedonija. Po koja osnova kazuvate deka e Makedonija Bugarska? Daj odgovori mi ve molam site bugari mi odgovorete na ovaa prasanje?
lol, if lying is the case, then u greeks have lost hundreds of years ago. Since you falsely claim connection to the ancient macedonians, when in fact the ancient macedonians were not greek either. And besides, slavs have lived in macedonia for centuries, i think we have settled and mixed long enough to be allowed the right to be called macedonians,
Sorry, you are not correct. Because some Macedonians are Bulgarians and some Bulgarians are Macedonians. Just try to distingiush between nationality, ethnicity and regional identity - all these are different concepts!
(I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Tzintzar, I am pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander the Macedonian and Aristotle Philosopher." Gjorgi Pulevski (1838-1895))
We are not to Slavic animals!
We are not to Greece animals!
Fuck you Albanians animals Bulgarians animals!
I am original makedonski patriot!
We descendent from Heracles, like Alexander the great ! Zeus =Macedonia !! Cronus =Macedonia ! Poseidon =Macedonia ! Olympias =Macedonia!! Aeropus I =Macedonia!
Today`s Macedonian Bulgarians/Fyromians are in no way connected to the Macedonians of Ancient Greece with its heroes Philip and Alexander. The truth is today`s Macedonian Slavs are ethnic Bulgarians and live in the region Macedonia so it is only fair that they be referred to as Macedonian BULGARIANS to avoid confusion and for the Greek stay neutral.
In other words, you should change the name in Republic of Bulgarian Macedonia/RBM
@freeinhell We are not slavs .We are Macedonians, only Macedonians like Ancients Macedonians,
March 23, 1881 SSSR, Moskva. !... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov ( Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me)
On Italian TV "RaiNews24" in the live coverage of the elections in RoM, their reporter in Skopje Enio Remondino called the "ethnic Macedonians" "Slavo-Bulgars".
To the complaints that were received, RAI Media Group replied that no insults were used, only facts
Kiro Gligorov (First president of FYROM)admits that he and his people are slavs and they don't have any relationship with ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great!!!
Crvenkovski is a FYROM-ian fascist, and shouldn't have been alloed into Bulgaria in the first place. Luckily, the Greeks have showed him who's boss :)
Kiro Gligorov (First president of FYROM)admits that he and his people are slavs and they don't have any relationship with ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great!!!
I feel very sorry for Macedonian, because Macedonia should Enter in Nato because they have very Good Progress then Albania, because i can see that Macedonia and Croatia are the strongest country in Balkan, but don't worry you all people in Macedonian because you will Enter in Nato,
haha, r u kidding me??- your Veto did not make us "Republic Scopia" allthoug!! we are still REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA poory gaygreeks, you used your last joker with vetoing us..:-).. so pls, take your VETO, put it in your @ss, go to Mykonos, sit on a chair and jumb twice...i bet you will love this feeling as your ancestors did!!
...Not quite, there's a VETO at the EU level awaiting you, as well as problems at the UN...Our immediate ancestors, btw, did a lot of "jumbing" (he means jumping) in 1912, 1913, 1940 and 1948.
hehe, you should rename YOUR Country into Republic of VETO cuz it seems you like this word a lot...or Former Ottoman Kingdom of Greece(FOKOG) your choice! the point is, i don't care about greece wether you accept our name or not, call me as you want! WE EXIST and we are Macedonians... if you don't know how to call us, it's your Problem, not ours! New Macedonia Middle-east-west-north Macedonia - i dont care, as soon my passport tells me that i'm from the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA!!!!
Elvuitton. The name Greece has no confussion with any other country. The country of Greece has been around for centuries. Greece has a region called Macedonia and also owns the history and heritage. This is the issue. The bottom line is that you are Slavs living in the geographical region of Ancient Macedonia. A good compromise which the Greek Government is offering is Nuvo Macedonia. What is wrong with this compromise?
new macedonia in bilateral way wont be a problem, but inHouse we will stay the Republic of Macedonia! by the way, why don't you rename your province into old macedonia, or if we should be upper macedonia, then rename your province into under macedonia...since as you say, nobody has the right to claim the word Macedonia, so greece neither. and then, your name is greece since 1826, why don't we call you Hellas? english translation of ellinas is hellenes and not greek!!!! so thing about!!!!
eluitton, Upper Macedonia was one of the recommended names by Nimitz it was rejected by your government. I think Greece would agree to Upper Macedonia, because it is a geographical description and not a political one. By the way Greeks or Ellenes call their country Hellas. Its the rest of the world that calls us Greece. Its no big deal because no one else has that designation. The issue is that for 17 years the name crisis has festered with no compromise from your government.
haleluja!!! the whole world call your country Greece but you call it Hellas...so then call us the same way as you want, i don't mind if you call me Fyrom, scopia or wahtever, but since you have the right to call your self Hellas while the rest of the world calls you Greece or Griechenland or Gréce or Grecia i have the same right to call myself Macedonia! get it so far?? and concerning the name Upper Macedonia, have you ever heard a country call itself Upper??? north ok, south ok, but Upper????
Youcan call yourself what you want. No one can stop you. But when your country makes claims to what you called occupied or Aegean Macedonia, we then have a problem. When you Prime Minister is seen laying a reath to one of your heros with a map consuming all the geographical region of anciant Macedonia, we have a problem. We Greeks feel we own the history the legacy of the anciant Macedonians! Why don't you call yourself something else? Slavo Macedonians or better yet Vardaska
we don't call us else cuz we r macedonian, where have been the borders of greece in 1826?? i mean it's absurd that todays greek think of themselfs they are the hellens from the ancient!!! boy you are mixed egyptian, turkish or wathever...then how you can say the greeks living in greek macedonia are maceonians when they have been transfered into this region years ago from PONTUS, christian turks, which the turks didn't want!!!!
Does it really matter at this point. You are not going to believe us or I don't think you care to believe us. Thus, the veto. So what is the next step. Do you want to go to war? Are you prepared to fight for what you believe is yours? Because I know the Greeks are.
oh boy, we live in europe, there wont be any fight necassary... kosovo was the last fight, the EU wont allow another fight since you are in the European Union, get that!!!! and the veto for the EU is you last joker...i mean the first veto (nato) is gone, and it didnt make us Republic Scopia, and the second (EU) wont make us neither Republic Banana or wathever...so i'm really glad to see greece vetoes us again, you will loose your face infront of europe, not we...!...cheers.
elvuitton, The looser will be you again. We have nothing to loose. You will not get any development Euros. You will not be in any defence treaties, unless you sell your Soles to the Americans which you allready did. How is that American base Dick Cheany and Haliburton are building north of Skopia?
Skiros an astable macedeonia means a danger for greece too. Our albanian minority is today marring albanians from greece, who have a work permit, so they can go to greece too, that's why you allready have over 800'000 albanians in your country. not as citizien, but as inhabitans, the time will come, they will be citiziens - European Imigration Rules! then you would wish macedonia has joined the NATO and EU... you have more to loose than you knwo!
which name issue, man?? which problem? we have no problem!!! We exist, i do not bother as to how call us. it's not my prob. it's the prob. of the ones that refuse to recognize me. But i EXIST, and i call myself Macedonian, you have to accept it and decide as to how to call this country, it's your problem, not mine or ours!! the whole world says Switzerland or Schweiz, or Suisse or Suiza, but the greeks says ELVETIA, so you may use for us Uganda if you want, i dont care, it's your prob!
a be bugari, koj ve stava na akl so znam... zeente vi za silikonski cicki i afrikanki bi se napravili, a pa maskite vi za da ednas polizaat tkvi silikonski cicki bi ja prodadeli celosno bugarija. . :-D, zatava nogo de digajte prasina, uzivajte si, gledajte si Pajern Televizija i slusajte si go Azis posto vo nego ke si go najdite i identitetot... ciganski pederi! Aj su zdrave!
bace da ti kazam, veke se i naucih, toa ne razlikuva, 8 jazici zboram, toa e kapital i iteligencija.... so golemo volstvo se naucih albanski...! prosiri si go ti malku tvojot horizont, selacki peder... !!!!
Epa toa e brat nai-bitno za eden "vistinski" makedonec e nikogas da ne nauci bugarski.A naj-bitno za eden "fals" makedonec ko Dame i Goce bilo da ja zavrsi Bugarskata Mazka Solunska Gimnazia i da sborvi i pise knizovno na Bugarski. Srboturski gazoliz si ti i ne podrzavas na Goce i Dame,a na Tito!
Batulec makedonski. Ti vo zivotot nema da izebe6 tolku jaki pi4ki vo Makedonija nikoga6 kolku eden srendo statisti4ki bugarin ke izebe i naprotiv imam videno kako makedoncite vo bugaria davat mnogu pari za toj silikon,a nie sme pi4ove i znaeme kako da si go zemime bez da se prodavame.Odi si tamo kaj stisnatite makedonki so se praat samo na stisnati a ina4e i gasot si go davat ama vie ne znaete kako,mnogo srbite ve ebali i sega samo pederi.A Aziz moze da ti izgleda samo peder,kolku zeni e izebal.
kolku zeni e izebal be azis?? de ne me nasmevi! slusi naste picki se ismizleni za vaste kurvatini....mazite kaj vaz mozebi tolku ebaat oti zenite site vi se cumi...! megutoa, vaz pa da ne ve ebali turcite sto ste postanali site Azisci???... de proseti se malku!
Azis se prait na peder,toa e fakt!Se karsit od dupenie makedonki i vo to sum siguren.Skoro 90% od makedoncite so poznavam,a i imam i mnogu dugari tvrdat deka makedonkite se mnogu po-grdi i zatvoreni izkomplicirani zenski.I az poznavam mnogu ovde makedonki i ne se ubavi.
dobro de aj, na sto lice ove, ke diskutirame li sega koj ima po ubavi zenski??? bugarska logika!- sekade ima lepotici a i vo sekoja drzava ima vesterki... zatava, ovaa diskusija nema fajde... Cao
If u are so sure about your identity, you schould read some international books or watch some History Channel, about the Macedones. And by the way: Search about the meaning of the name Alexander. It means something.
And you cannot denie that your language is 98% Bulgarian.
Search. Dond just believe your Goverment's Propaganda. Your former president (who has a bulgarian passport now) said it also: "we are Slavs and not related in anyway to the Ancient Macedones"
mi kvo da kaje, haha, osven da go prekusne na sushtia ezik :)))
inache Parvanov mnogo hubavo se izkaza.
A vijte Crvenkovski: ne bil problema v pametnika, a v zakonnata procedura. Kade otivat togava vsichkite gluposti che "Veles ne poznava takav geroi i t.n."
Mnogo dobre kazano, prosto da prochetat malko istoria "makedonskite ni priateli".
(Acts 18:23-21:16) Paul was not forced to leave the city by the authorities after this riot, but he evidently decided it was prudent to do so and set off for Macedonia.
Paul revisited the churches in Macedonia, then went to Greece, where he stayed for three months. As he was about to sail to Syria, some Jews laid wait for him, so he returned through Macedonia.
motley8oy 5 months ago
@hithere3355 either you haven't checked the bible or your just another greek in denial
motley8oy 5 months ago
@hithere3355 read the chapter in the bible called ACTS. You will find your answers there. I'm not talking about the macedonia the greeks stole in 1913. The bible states st.paul travelled to macedonia then southward to greece, if macedonia was in greece wouldn't the bible just state he went to greece. I thought macedonia was unified with greece, st.paul preached 300 years after alexander, if alexander ended the city states why doesn't the bible state greece on its own.
motley8oy 5 months ago
greeks read the bible chapter Acts, you will find your answers in there, St. Paul travels to Macedonia then travels south to greece, keep reading.
motley8oy 10 months ago
Be careful Macedotsi, if u fuck with our Bulgarian people we will have to take you again!
properjujitsu 1 year ago
...I hate all bulgarians....
WHY ??
THEY ARE YOUR BROTHERS.
the FYR land belong PART to BULGARIA and PART to SERBIA
FACT!
GrowUPist 1 year ago
bulgaria made Macedonia!!!
you speak bulgarin!!
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streetbond 1 year ago
on the fourth time bulgaria agreed feering that if it does not macedonia will stay turkish forever. bulgaria fought against turkey taking the major weight of the compaigne, while serbia ocupied macedonia meeting almost no resistance from the turkish garnizon. when turkey was defeted ,mainly thanks to bulgaria, all former aliae of bulgaria turned against it - exept MOnte Negro. Bulgaria ended up fighting all its neighbour at the same time and thus loosing macedonia forever
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We are not slavs .We are Macedonians, only Macedonians like Ancients Macedonians,
March 23, 1881 SSSR, Moskva. !... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov ( Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me)
17gian17 1 year ago
This Greek letters Α,Γ,Δ,Ζ,Θ,Λ,Ξ,Π,Ω are in the grave of King Filippos (ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) in Pella. What you are trying to do ? You are trying to succed Titos plan to save FYROM land from Bulgaria..? History is written in the ancient marbles not in the history books of Tito..MAKEDONIA was a Greek Kingdom, so Greek as the Athenians,Spartans,Cretan,Aegean cities,Korinthians,Thessaly,Epirus.. Uneducated
mariosathens1 1 year ago
Колко са заблудени феновете на Ал. Македонски, който между другото се е е.ал с коня си. Но така или иначе те нямат нищо общо с него. Те са само българи от Македонския край.
egorVD 1 year ago
очигледно дека циганот грчки 17gian17 не разбира што му зборам
MKDgangster 1 year ago
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makedonija means Alexander the great.
Makedonija means Aristotle philosopher.
Makedonija means Ancient Macedonians.
We are not slavs, not bulgarians,.
We are clear original Macedonians, 100 % like Ancients Macedonians.
Bitola or heraclea?
Ohrid or Lihnida?
Gevgelija or gortynia??
Who when and why changed this names??
We are slavs, or Macedonians?
17gian17 1 year ago
17gian17 е педериште грчко циганско, игнорирајте го ве молам
MKDgangster 1 year ago
We are Macedonians, not slavs.
Alexander the great was Macedonian, not slav.
17gian17 1 year ago
Macedonia is not bulgarian, it hasen't been for a long while now. Macedonia is slavic, but not specifically bulgarian. We can be firends but there will not be a unification.
FlankerVT 2 years ago
makedonija belong to Macedonians.
We are not bulgarians not slavs.
We descendent 100 % to Ancients Macedonians.
Alexander the great was Macedonian only Macedonian leader.
Slavs destroyed our Ancient Macedonian culture language history alphabet.
Bitola or heraclea?
Solun or thessalonica?
Ohrid or Lihnida??
We are Macedonians or slavs??
17gian17 2 years ago
@17gian17 what is the population of macedonia in 1900 ???
kingIoanAsen 1 year ago
eh, i think your wrong. The macedonian territory was already destroyed by the romans when the slavs got there in 6th century. But the ancient peoples of macedonia and parts in greece were slavitized after the slavs took over. The macedonian territory has remianed slavitized since then, despite what the greeks will tell you. Thus we are a mix of both slavs and ancient macedonians.
FlankerVT 1 year ago
March 23, 1881
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
Kjustendil Centralnii Gosudartsvenii Arhiv Okjabarskii revoljucii i socialtieskoga stroitelstva SSSR, Moskva.
17gian17 1 year ago
Do you believe that Aristotle philosopher and Alexander the great were relatives to Slovenians or to bulgarians ??
Not they were only only Macedonians like Makedonija today.
We are not half Macedonians, we are only Macedonians 100 % like Ancients Macedonians.
I am macedonian, not slav. I hate Slavic culture.
We had alphabet civiliation culture 1000 years before barbarian slavs destroyed our history.
17gian17 1 year ago
17gian17. Stop living in a dreamworld boy. Grow up. FYROM is north of Macedonia and is actually in the land of the bitter enemies of Macedonians, the Dardanians and Paeonians. So if you are not Bulgarian you are a kid of them. You only relation to us the real Macedonians would be if our ancestors raped your female ancestors. But you are not Greek. You live north of us. You are sworn enemies of Macedonia. Your grandfathers fought for greater Bulgaria wearing the Bulgarian emblems and flags...
papagamias 1 year ago
@17gian17
you got ur alphabet from us bulgarians
we made the cyrillic alphabet
face the facts.
WindGod12 1 year ago
@WindGod12 You are Out Of your mind. ... We are Macedonians, Not Not not Bulgarians. Especially I hate Bulgarians. I hope Turkey destroy all Bulgarians.
We are Macedonians.
We descendant to Ancients Macedonians.
Do You Believe That Alexander the great was Relative to Your Bastard nation??
17gian17 1 year ago
@17gian17
There is overwhelming evidence and old maps that show macedonia in our territory. Im not out of my mind. This is history. Your country was our territory when bulgaria didn't lose any of its territory due to wars. You hate bulgarians because you don't want to admit the truth. Turkey tried to destroy Bulgarians but we kicked their ass in 1878 so stfu. Your language is exactly the same as ours. Difference is: macedonian uses bulgarian dialect. I dont need a translator to talk to you.
WindGod12 1 year ago
@WindGod12 ...Hahaha hahaha hahaha. A bulgarian person living in his dreams.....
Looking.
I hate you.
I hate all bulgarians.
I am macedonian.
I would like....... you.
17gian17 1 year ago
@17gian17
Why do you hate us? The macedonians schools teach you to hate us. We don't hate macedonians
we hate that you dont want to admit ur our territory.
these are facts
WindGod12 1 year ago
@WindGod12 You asked me, why I hate Bulgarians... Please go to one mirror, look at your face.
17gian17 1 year ago
@17gian17
Your face is our face.
No difference.
Macedonia was part of bulgarian territory but we lost Macedonia to the Serbians. We lost World I.
WindGod12 1 year ago
slavs came to macedonia in 6 ad but no ancient macedonians found cause they have fled to thesalonica or thrace or constandinople.you mixed with noone you claim since then greek land we threw you out from byzantine to 1900 acepte that.never macedonians
nik303ful 1 year ago
@FlankerVTголям карашик сте вие, ама най вече в главите, комшу, щото ако питаш баба си и дядо си,едва ли ще ти кажат нещо такова, но че си българин от македонския край-точно ще ти кажат.....айде, жив и здрав бъди
arrow24s 1 year ago
@FlankerVT Vo edinstvoto e silata
kingIoanAsen 1 year ago
The relationship between Bulgaria and FYROM is like the one between a boy and his retarded brother.Sure he is retarded and doesnt know where he belongs,but we still love him,since he is our blood.
dgdbg 2 years ago 4
Macedonians are not bulgarians.
We descendent from Ancients Macedonians.
17gian17 2 years ago
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Your stupid Bulgarian propaganda finished.
We descendent from Ancients Macedonians
makedonija means Alexander the great.
17gian17 1 year ago
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We have no connection to Alexander in his Macedonia!!!
Ние сме робови! Ние немаме врска со Alexander the Great!!! Ние сме Монголци Kiro Gligorov
Xeveos 2 years ago
Macedonians are brainwashed bulgarians,if we didnt live in such a fucked up society we would have invaded this place a long time ago.
dgdbg 2 years ago 3
are u referring to greece not invading? They did invade, they stabbed bulgaria in the back with the help of serbia. Thats how they were able to take back agean macedonia from the bulgarian slavs. And that is how the serbans got control of the rest of macedonia. They took it when bulgaria was busy fighting turkey, protecting the asses of the rest of the balkans, Greeks are fucking pussies and not to be trusted,
Serbia cannot be trusted either. Viva macedonia!.
FlankerVT 2 years ago
Why won't you just accept that bulgarians and macedonians is the same,we are brothers for God's sake.Shame so many of you are brainwashed.
dgdbg 2 years ago
Because, it would be a lie to say i am fully bulgarian. I am not. I have some serbian, vlach, and a little thracian inside of me too. Also, there is a chance i may have some greco-roman blood too. History and gentic background is not such a simple thing. Why won't some of the greek people admit that they are predominately turks or byzantinians?
FlankerVT 2 years ago
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Makedonija =glory history Power.
We descendent from Ancients Macedonians.
I hate bulgarians.
17gian17 2 years ago
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kingIoanAsen 1 year ago
Of course I hate Greeks, of course I hate slavs.
Of course I am original Macedonian patriot.
Makedonija only makedonija.
Makedonija means Ancient Macedonians
that is.
Nothing other. Not slavs not Greeks not bulgarians.
17gian17 1 year ago
ti ne si dobre,mnogo e zle polozenieto so glavata ti.Vzemi se vo race i ne se fanatizirai.
kingIoanAsen 1 year ago
Abre tikvinici,kako moze da bide Makedonija Bugarska? Dali imate i drugi Republiki vo Bugarija pa togas da kazete ja imame pet Republiki i Makedonija sest. Koj vi gi polni glavite so bumbari,dajte nesto drugo ucete ama ne za Makedonija. Po koja osnova kazuvate deka e Makedonija Bugarska? Daj odgovori mi ve molam site bugari mi odgovorete na ovaa prasanje?
makedonijakanzalija 2 years ago
all mashitonians are gays
lolwut3132 2 years ago
Hellas is Macedonia and visa versa.
The FYROM lies are slowly but surely be exposed.
We will win, because truth always triumps over lies.
futureman12345 2 years ago 2
makedonia is Bulgaria!!
BulGariAnHoOl 2 years ago
lol, if lying is the case, then u greeks have lost hundreds of years ago. Since you falsely claim connection to the ancient macedonians, when in fact the ancient macedonians were not greek either. And besides, slavs have lived in macedonia for centuries, i think we have settled and mixed long enough to be allowed the right to be called macedonians,
FlankerVT 2 years ago
ЗАРАДИ ТЕЗИ РАБОТИ МАКЕДОНИЯ НЯМА ДА ВЛЕЗНЕ В ЕС И НАТО, БЪЛГАРИЯ И ГЪРЦИЯ НЯМА ДА ПОЗВОЛЯТ
vladiwapo 2 years ago 6
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Topli pozdravi, skupi Bratko Bulgarski Tatarin!
Sega na gurtsite li im duhate?
tststs, purvo na Hitler, sled tova na Stalin, a sega na pedalite atinski.
Brodskipedofil 2 years ago
Мъчно ли ти е за Югославия? :)
qbalka 2 years ago
Българи не падайте на тяхното ниво...
Nob0neR 2 years ago 3
macedonia is 3000years greece
thasitis21 2 years ago 2
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Macedonians are Macedonians, Bulgarians are Bulgarians.
plyrgheorghe 2 years ago
Sorry, you are not correct. Because some Macedonians are Bulgarians and some Bulgarians are Macedonians. Just try to distingiush between nationality, ethnicity and regional identity - all these are different concepts!
pandvale 2 years ago
makedonia 1400 years Bulgarian,people is Bulgarians makedonia is Bulgarian!!!
BulGariAnHoOl 2 years ago
Macedonians are Bulgarians but their brains are messed up
peshoman 2 years ago
половината от населението на Македония са албанци,а се имат за македонци!!!Мръсни Албанци назад в Албания и ни върнете земите!!!
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(I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Tzintzar, I am pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander the Macedonian and Aristotle Philosopher." Gjorgi Pulevski (1838-1895))
We are not to Slavic animals!
We are not to Greece animals!
Fuck you Albanians animals Bulgarians animals!
I am original makedonski patriot!
We descendent from Heracles, like Alexander the great ! Zeus =Macedonia !! Cronus =Macedonia ! Poseidon =Macedonia ! Olympias =Macedonia!! Aeropus I =Macedonia!
17gian17 3 years ago
Crvenkovski WELCOME HOME!!! :D :D :D
trexkiril 3 years ago
Bulgarian speaking Slavic peasants masquerading as Macedonians.......you people are sick.
tsbastoan 3 years ago
Dedo ima po-stara rakiq ot va6ata 18 godi6na istoriq.
Ne znam kolko glupawi nagli i bezo4lqvi trqbva da ste, za da ne osuznavate 4e syrbite vi ne biha prez 90-te godini samo zaradi nas.
vlezz 3 years ago
Macedonian and Bulgarian are very similar.
Russian gets me pretty far in both countries actually.
spurious 3 years ago
thats because they are reading it in school, which is sick...
samsamesammek 2 years ago
ZARAMACEDONIA iela mi nagosti y sofiq da ti pogovorim malko na shopski pa da te vidim dali ne razbirash bulgarski.eiii opsni ste!ahahhahaha
babyDolluRocknRoll 3 years ago
nali i q tva vikam 4e ako mu kajem 2-3 dumi na 6opski 4e me razbere mnogo dobre. + tva 6opi ima i v makedoniq :)
Sixb0nes1 2 years ago
Today`s Macedonian Bulgarians/Fyromians are in no way connected to the Macedonians of Ancient Greece with its heroes Philip and Alexander. The truth is today`s Macedonian Slavs are ethnic Bulgarians and live in the region Macedonia so it is only fair that they be referred to as Macedonian BULGARIANS to avoid confusion and for the Greek stay neutral.
In other words, you should change the name in Republic of Bulgarian Macedonia/RBM
freeinhell 3 years ago 11
Very well stated sir! Bravo!
hellnbk 3 years ago
@freeinhell Todays Macedonians are of Serbian origin,there are many Bulgarians,but,they know they are Bulgarian.FYROM Macedonia is a old Serbian land
ivkekosovo 1 year ago
@freeinhell We are not slavs .We are Macedonians, only Macedonians like Ancients Macedonians,
March 23, 1881 SSSR, Moskva. !... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov ( Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me)
17gian17 1 year ago
@freeinhell
Die Ungeziefer beider Staaten Bulgarien und Fyrom treffen sich
Mai496 1 year ago
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you're language is like sheat. i am a macedonian and i dont understand!!!
ZAREMACEDONIA 3 years ago
you don't know what sheat is. get a dictionary and check it.
bgtop9962 3 years ago
maybe you are shiptar...HAHA
sergiomarchelli 3 years ago
Hey Fuck Face!!! You are from FYROM ~!!! You wish in your wiildest imagination that you were a decendent of Ancient Macedon!!!!!!!!!!!
hellnbk 3 years ago 2
Fuck Greece!
kiresdsmov4e 3 years ago
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On Italian TV "RaiNews24" in the live coverage of the elections in RoM, their reporter in Skopje Enio Remondino called the "ethnic Macedonians" "Slavo-Bulgars".
To the complaints that were received, RAI Media Group replied that no insults were used, only facts
gekosink 3 years ago
Kiro Gligorov (First president of FYROM)admits that he and his people are slavs and they don't have any relationship with ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great!!!
Kiro Gligorov , jUNE 1992 .
vodenecc 3 years ago
Crvenkovski is an idiot!
KrastioAsenov 3 years ago
Абе глупак кој си ти да ни го вреѓаш претседатело на државата да си ја гледаш работата а не да јадеш гомна сељак еден
arsovtrajce 3 years ago
Crvenkovski is a FYROM-ian fascist, and shouldn't have been alloed into Bulgaria in the first place. Luckily, the Greeks have showed him who's boss :)
iquirer 3 years ago
Greeks*
KeramisijskiSin 3 years ago
Fyrom is Bulgarian and Greek and Albanian !!!
dimitris12003 3 years ago
We have present for Greels - - - big Dildo for each of you to shove it up your ass !
KeramisijskiSin 3 years ago
MACEDONIA IS BULGARIAN!
Machtwille 3 years ago 5
VARDARSKA (FYROM) vs MACEDONIA
watch?v=edRItU_rtkw
UNITED VARDARSKA 2013-only KRYPTOBOULGARIANS from VARDARSKA
--------------------------
VARDARSKA 12/04/2008
SAY with the real name...NOT MACEDONIA!
SAY U.S.A
United States Albania
BEEP..BEEP
MACEDONIA IS ONE AND GREEK! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
kostasthess81 3 years ago
Vardar Banovina = Republic of Macedonia
Vrbas Banovina = Bosnia and Herzegowina
Zeta Banovina = Republic of Croatia
Drava Banovina = Repulic of Slovenia
IT's sooo simple greekis... why isn't Croatia called Republic of ZETA today?? cuz they was, r and always will be Croatian...dito the Macedonians!!!!
1912 = Greek province "Makedonia" was called Northern Greece...rename it agian like this and shut the f@ck up!
elvuitton 3 years ago 9
Kiro Gligorov (First president of FYROM)admits that he and his people are slavs and they don't have any relationship with ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great!!!
Kiro Gligorov , jUNE 1992 .
Kiro Gligorov , jUNE 1992 .
vodenecc 3 years ago 4
@elvuitton
Gayreece never owned Western Thrace, it is a Turkish, Macedonian place! When next balkan war will happen, there will be nomore Greece left!
TurkishHegemony 11 months ago
I feel very sorry for Macedonian, because Macedonia should Enter in Nato because they have very Good Progress then Albania, because i can see that Macedonia and Croatia are the strongest country in Balkan, but don't worry you all people in Macedonian because you will Enter in Nato,
i said all people in Macedonia GOODLUCK!!!
Loodiner 3 years ago
Toa se dolzi na to deka ubavinata ili e izbegala za bugaria ili e ostaneta vo golu brdo.
sa6kosa6ko 3 years ago
Macedonia for Macedonians
Bulgarians TATAR!!!!!!!
DimeMkd4ever 3 years ago
Macedonia for Macedonians.
Macedonians BULGAR!!!!
sa6kosa6ko 3 years ago
Macedonia for Macedonians
Bulgarians TATAR!!!!!!!
DimeMkd4ever 3 years ago
to all our SLAVS "friends", (well nowbody seems to be here):
This channel is ONLY FOR NATO MEMBERS.
please come back after NAME CHANGE!
beep beep...
Macedonia is Greek!!!
Vardarska help from BOULGARIA MOTHERLAND
hahahahahahahahahaha
NATO Bomb Skopje NOW (english)
HATO Бомбардирайте скопие СЕГА (slavs)(vardarskian or rousky or boulgarian or serbian or croatian etc)
NATO Βομβαρδίστε τα σκοπια ΤΩΡΑ (greek)
kostasthess81 3 years ago
haha, r u kidding me??- your Veto did not make us "Republic Scopia" allthoug!! we are still REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA poory gaygreeks, you used your last joker with vetoing us..:-).. so pls, take your VETO, put it in your @ss, go to Mykonos, sit on a chair and jumb twice...i bet you will love this feeling as your ancestors did!!
elvuitton 3 years ago
...Not quite, there's a VETO at the EU level awaiting you, as well as problems at the UN...Our immediate ancestors, btw, did a lot of "jumbing" (he means jumping) in 1912, 1913, 1940 and 1948.
baffy98 3 years ago
hehe, you should rename YOUR Country into Republic of VETO cuz it seems you like this word a lot...or Former Ottoman Kingdom of Greece(FOKOG) your choice! the point is, i don't care about greece wether you accept our name or not, call me as you want! WE EXIST and we are Macedonians... if you don't know how to call us, it's your Problem, not ours! New Macedonia Middle-east-west-north Macedonia - i dont care, as soon my passport tells me that i'm from the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA!!!!
elvuitton 3 years ago
Elvuitton. The name Greece has no confussion with any other country. The country of Greece has been around for centuries. Greece has a region called Macedonia and also owns the history and heritage. This is the issue. The bottom line is that you are Slavs living in the geographical region of Ancient Macedonia. A good compromise which the Greek Government is offering is Nuvo Macedonia. What is wrong with this compromise?
skiros24 3 years ago
new macedonia in bilateral way wont be a problem, but inHouse we will stay the Republic of Macedonia! by the way, why don't you rename your province into old macedonia, or if we should be upper macedonia, then rename your province into under macedonia...since as you say, nobody has the right to claim the word Macedonia, so greece neither. and then, your name is greece since 1826, why don't we call you Hellas? english translation of ellinas is hellenes and not greek!!!! so thing about!!!!
elvuitton 3 years ago
eluitton, Upper Macedonia was one of the recommended names by Nimitz it was rejected by your government. I think Greece would agree to Upper Macedonia, because it is a geographical description and not a political one. By the way Greeks or Ellenes call their country Hellas. Its the rest of the world that calls us Greece. Its no big deal because no one else has that designation. The issue is that for 17 years the name crisis has festered with no compromise from your government.
skiros24 3 years ago
haleluja!!! the whole world call your country Greece but you call it Hellas...so then call us the same way as you want, i don't mind if you call me Fyrom, scopia or wahtever, but since you have the right to call your self Hellas while the rest of the world calls you Greece or Griechenland or Gréce or Grecia i have the same right to call myself Macedonia! get it so far?? and concerning the name Upper Macedonia, have you ever heard a country call itself Upper??? north ok, south ok, but Upper????
elvuitton 3 years ago
Youcan call yourself what you want. No one can stop you. But when your country makes claims to what you called occupied or Aegean Macedonia, we then have a problem. When you Prime Minister is seen laying a reath to one of your heros with a map consuming all the geographical region of anciant Macedonia, we have a problem. We Greeks feel we own the history the legacy of the anciant Macedonians! Why don't you call yourself something else? Slavo Macedonians or better yet Vardaska
skiros24 3 years ago
we don't call us else cuz we r macedonian, where have been the borders of greece in 1826?? i mean it's absurd that todays greek think of themselfs they are the hellens from the ancient!!! boy you are mixed egyptian, turkish or wathever...then how you can say the greeks living in greek macedonia are maceonians when they have been transfered into this region years ago from PONTUS, christian turks, which the turks didn't want!!!!
elvuitton 3 years ago
Does it really matter at this point. You are not going to believe us or I don't think you care to believe us. Thus, the veto. So what is the next step. Do you want to go to war? Are you prepared to fight for what you believe is yours? Because I know the Greeks are.
skiros24 3 years ago
oh boy, we live in europe, there wont be any fight necassary... kosovo was the last fight, the EU wont allow another fight since you are in the European Union, get that!!!! and the veto for the EU is you last joker...i mean the first veto (nato) is gone, and it didnt make us Republic Scopia, and the second (EU) wont make us neither Republic Banana or wathever...so i'm really glad to see greece vetoes us again, you will loose your face infront of europe, not we...!...cheers.
elvuitton 3 years ago
elvuitton, The looser will be you again. We have nothing to loose. You will not get any development Euros. You will not be in any defence treaties, unless you sell your Soles to the Americans which you allready did. How is that American base Dick Cheany and Haliburton are building north of Skopia?
skiros24 3 years ago
Skiros an astable macedeonia means a danger for greece too. Our albanian minority is today marring albanians from greece, who have a work permit, so they can go to greece too, that's why you allready have over 800'000 albanians in your country. not as citizien, but as inhabitans, the time will come, they will be citiziens - European Imigration Rules! then you would wish macedonia has joined the NATO and EU... you have more to loose than you knwo!
elvuitton 3 years ago
That is why your country should work with Greece over the name issue. 17 years is way too long not to have a solution.
skiros24 3 years ago
which name issue, man?? which problem? we have no problem!!! We exist, i do not bother as to how call us. it's not my prob. it's the prob. of the ones that refuse to recognize me. But i EXIST, and i call myself Macedonian, you have to accept it and decide as to how to call this country, it's your problem, not mine or ours!! the whole world says Switzerland or Schweiz, or Suisse or Suiza, but the greeks says ELVETIA, so you may use for us Uganda if you want, i dont care, it's your prob!
elvuitton 3 years ago
a be bugari, koj ve stava na akl so znam... zeente vi za silikonski cicki i afrikanki bi se napravili, a pa maskite vi za da ednas polizaat tkvi silikonski cicki bi ja prodadeli celosno bugarija. . :-D, zatava nogo de digajte prasina, uzivajte si, gledajte si Pajern Televizija i slusajte si go Azis posto vo nego ke si go najdite i identitetot... ciganski pederi! Aj su zdrave!
elvuitton 3 years ago
Ti zapisa li se veche na KURs po albanski?
operamusicfan 3 years ago
bace da ti kazam, veke se i naucih, toa ne razlikuva, 8 jazici zboram, toa e kapital i iteligencija.... so golemo volstvo se naucih albanski...! prosiri si go ti malku tvojot horizont, selacki peder... !!!!
elvuitton 3 years ago
Epa toa e brat nai-bitno za eden "vistinski" makedonec e nikogas da ne nauci bugarski.A naj-bitno za eden "fals" makedonec ko Dame i Goce bilo da ja zavrsi Bugarskata Mazka Solunska Gimnazia i da sborvi i pise knizovno na Bugarski. Srboturski gazoliz si ti i ne podrzavas na Goce i Dame,a na Tito!
sa6kosa6ko 3 years ago
Batulec makedonski. Ti vo zivotot nema da izebe6 tolku jaki pi4ki vo Makedonija nikoga6 kolku eden srendo statisti4ki bugarin ke izebe i naprotiv imam videno kako makedoncite vo bugaria davat mnogu pari za toj silikon,a nie sme pi4ove i znaeme kako da si go zemime bez da se prodavame.Odi si tamo kaj stisnatite makedonki so se praat samo na stisnati a ina4e i gasot si go davat ama vie ne znaete kako,mnogo srbite ve ebali i sega samo pederi.A Aziz moze da ti izgleda samo peder,kolku zeni e izebal.
sa6kosa6ko 3 years ago
kolku zeni e izebal be azis?? de ne me nasmevi! slusi naste picki se ismizleni za vaste kurvatini....mazite kaj vaz mozebi tolku ebaat oti zenite site vi se cumi...! megutoa, vaz pa da ne ve ebali turcite sto ste postanali site Azisci???... de proseti se malku!
elvuitton 3 years ago
Azis se prait na peder,toa e fakt!Se karsit od dupenie makedonki i vo to sum siguren.Skoro 90% od makedoncite so poznavam,a i imam i mnogu dugari tvrdat deka makedonkite se mnogu po-grdi i zatvoreni izkomplicirani zenski.I az poznavam mnogu ovde makedonki i ne se ubavi.
sa6kosa6ko 3 years ago
dobro de aj, na sto lice ove, ke diskutirame li sega koj ima po ubavi zenski??? bugarska logika!- sekade ima lepotici a i vo sekoja drzava ima vesterki... zatava, ovaa diskusija nema fajde... Cao
elvuitton 3 years ago
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Macedonians? This nation disappeared more than 2000 years ago. You guis are Serbians, living in Albanian, Bulgarian and Greek land.
oknstantin60 3 years ago
Not serbs. Macedonians are bulgarians terrorized for generations by the serbs.
balasurr 3 years ago 8
they are Bulgarians,not serbians
Kubrat89 3 years ago 7
They are Bulgarians living on Bulgarian lands,the same way as the artificially created greeks live on Bulgarian land.
SmokingBobo 3 years ago
SmokingBobo
your nic name should be smoking pot!
greeks live on Bulgarian land??which land of yours do we live on??
unitedinhell 3 years ago
Those you occupied in 1913 together with your genetical turkish brothers fighting us together,now be like a proper greek,choke a cock and die!
SmokingBobo 3 years ago
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Suck our dicks gipsy's...!
Macedonia will be united
tarantula4mk 3 years ago
Хахахахха, с танкове подарени от майка България?
VENKOcska 3 years ago 3
Made in Belgrad,марш от тука сръбска маймуно,да еба това племе нескопосано
Debulgaro 3 years ago 9
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You are Made in Tatarstan? ;-)
Learn history, the Bulgarians are turkic-mongol people, Macedonians are not.
historyofmacedonia . org
kokolo00 3 years ago
MACEDONIA WAS IS AND ONLY WILL BE GREEK.
BYE BYE FYROMistan OR VARDASKA!!!
VETO IN UN NATO EUROPE !
ELLASMACEDONIA 3 years ago
If u are so sure about your identity, you schould read some international books or watch some History Channel, about the Macedones. And by the way: Search about the meaning of the name Alexander. It means something.
And you cannot denie that your language is 98% Bulgarian.
Search. Dond just believe your Goverment's Propaganda. Your former president (who has a bulgarian passport now) said it also: "we are Slavs and not related in anyway to the Ancient Macedones"
yongchunhellas 3 years ago 9
we've read and seen enough. We know very well who we are and where we came from.
All this stuff you have to inject in the heads of the FYROM-ian zombies. Those idiots hate everyone and everything.
deyannyc 3 years ago 3
Господин Цървенковски , добре дошъл у дома!!!!!
shitonyou2 3 years ago 7
Цървенковски-сръбската пияница, никога няма да е у дома в България. ;)
datigotura 3 years ago 8
Dano neshto se promeni, makar che se symnjavam.
deyannyc 3 years ago 3
mi kvo da kaje, haha, osven da go prekusne na sushtia ezik :)))
inache Parvanov mnogo hubavo se izkaza.
A vijte Crvenkovski: ne bil problema v pametnika, a v zakonnata procedura. Kade otivat togava vsichkite gluposti che "Veles ne poznava takav geroi i t.n."
Mnogo dobre kazano, prosto da prochetat malko istoria "makedonskite ni priateli".
balasurr 3 years ago 2
Той човекът се опита, каза две думи и се отказа да превежда ;)
bugarash 3 years ago
Човече качи моля те и репортажите на НОВА и бТВ, има ги в нетера. Благодаря предварително;)
datigotura 3 years ago 3
Zashto mi se struva che imashe razni smeshni opiti za simultanen prevod na dumite na Branko Crvenkovski? Dano sam se obukal.
balasurr 3 years ago