Mass Effect 2: Betraying Tali (Renegade Loyalty Mission)

[TMoesLilBro]

"Don't.. don't talk to me unless you need something" Ouch :\

[Cross64]

Wow, thanks for uploading this. I never could've done that to Tali. The final convo alone would've broken my heart. The fleet starting to splinter is going to have a huge effect on ME3 though.

[maverickzero88]

Hearing those words at the end.... it went straight to the heart... ><

[5000cz]

You BOSH'TET!!!!, thou its nice to see what would have happened if u did do it. I couldn't do it even if i wanted to.

[MovieguruThe]

The fuck dude? What dafaq?!

I would keep the info on rael a total secret, then let Gerrel in on it alone.

You poor poor basterd.

Guess someone doesn't want tali to have the "Energy Drain" ability

[ClimbingTo1000Ft]

I'm commander shepard and i'm the biggest asshole on the citadel

[juggernaut725]

The quarians need this information! One quarian or every quarian?! Fools.

[rDarkWarrior]

I'm commander shepard, and I look like a collector

[loopofpoop]

YOU MONSTERRRRRRR

[indigothecat]

I'm almost too scared to watch this... (watches anyways) seeing Tali's reaction to having her father's evidence presented makes me realize just how important procuring her loyalty will be in mass Effect 3.

She will most likely replace her father as Admiral (if she's not exiled), and if the Fleet is in disarray and Tali still hates you, she'll probably not be of help to you in ME3.

[kerorododo]

ur a monster:000

[arctrooper123]

Renegade= Tali is pissed and hates you.

Paragon= Friendship/sex.

I had to go Paragon on this mission. :/

[selphiexfairy]

everything about this is so tragic. ;-;

[gamefreak964]

So in ME3 the quarian fleet would disband, you won't get fire support from quarians, and they would be captured and put on dragon's teeth to be turned into quarian husk if you betray tali and turn over the evidence?

lol my dumb guess

[TheSweenyToad]

@gamefreak964 It is possible. We shall see in a few weeks.

[gamergod321]

@sheep3370 im sure alot of tali fans now hte u

[fatalfeline]

Oof... That conversation with Tali at the end really hurts. DX

[sheep3370]

Well this won't be my problem, she's dead in all my playthroughs. I'm sorry but I just don't like Tali!

[PraxxTheMovieman]

@sheep3370 You have no SOUL!

[sheep3370]

@PraxxTheMovieman Come on now! I love liara like a little sister!

[PraxxTheMovieman]

@sheep3370 Yeah so does everyone , but hell hath no fury like a Tali Fan scorned... besides how can you not like Tali when she's crying like that! you just want to hugh her.

[TheSpectralAssassin]

@sheep3370 If you let Tali die, she won't be alive in ME3.

[sheep3370]

@TheSpectralAssassin Which is why I let it happen

[DeadRaen]

Come on... WE CAN USE THIS.

[JssANDERSON747]

F*** u sheppard.... this might be useful

[Xephon0930]

They usually give away such armors away as DLC later on.

[Grimno]

WE CAN USE THIS!

[masterc422]

that brought tears to my eyes, idk if i could ever do that to miss tali

[LostOddity]

I much prefer shouting the Admiralty Board down with an Intimidate option. XD

[Bronx1875]

That armor a DLC? or obtainable in game?

[DukeNukem2006]

I clicked on to this video but i had to press pause and leave few comments and go watch something cute cus betraying Tali doesnt exist for me ; ___ ;

[Legionwrex]

Why the hell was my comment removed?!?!. And for the record, Tali is a whiner, you know it to be true.

[DukeNukem2006]

@Legionwrex

Youre a whiner lol :D

[s8ntmark]

Soooo, No romance option with Tali now? haha

[InPlayable]

I'm Commander Shepard and I'm the biggest Bitch in the galaxy! :|

[Roel12345678]

you betrayed Tali you Bosh'tet!

[bigmackstar1]

shepards a BITCH in this video

[Throughthegates1]

My God, the Collector armor is ugly....

[Qubelink]

Good! Good! This is very Good! You ended up with lots of renegade. I wanted to see how she would be in mass effect 3 all exiled and betrayed with the quarian's going off to war. With her distrust for Shepard it should make for very tense dialog.

[Crimsonlee2XX]

@Qubelink If she gets exiled she actually stays loyal and doesnt mind so much but handing over that edvidence is the loyalty killer. I got one renagade play thru with her unloyal and alive, yeah Im curious how she'll turn out in ME3 :)

[dblkion]

This is perfect to get a total failure, I love it !

[Legionwrex]

Tali just sucks. Everyone says Kaidan is whiney but it's actually Tali who bitches about everything.

[BronyHeretic]

@Legionwrex I'll see you in hell for saying that. (I'm going to hell for blowing up the Quib Quib)

[sethwing]

yeah but unloyal tali will always die in the suicide mission regardless of her expertise. the loyal tali survive that but unloyal she will die.

[guttedism]

@sethwing tali can still die if she is loyal becuz in one of my playthroughs i sent tali in the tunnel thingy and sent kasumi to lead the second team(i was trying to lose half my squad) and tali got pwned in the face

[BtheBLU]

@guttedism If the second fire team leader isnt a loyal miranda, jacob or garrus, your tech expert pays for it with their face

[SUPERCHARGER2001]

Top 5 Characters in Mass Effect 2 are

5. Mordin

4. Thane

3. Miranda

2. Garrus

1. Tali

[RoninNZL]

thats terrible. doing anything to hurt sweet innocent tali is worse then drowning a bag of baby pandas

[Jason331V]

You're a fucking asshole, why the fuck would do this to Tali. I hope you die.

[TheNineLivez]

@Jason331V

Dude chill the fuck out? Did you even read the description...

[greeneffintractor]

this is effed up

[Ultermarto]

I took this option on my first play. I had no choice. I believed that it would have been wrong to hide her fathers cruelty so that she could keep pretending he was a good man. However, when i discovered that this lost Tali's loyalty and, ultimately, Tali, I re-loaded and did the other thing. Mass Effect makes you think.

[SinDawg030]

I didn't even romance Tali on my first playthrough and this is unforgivable. She just lost her father for chrissakes on top of everything else on her plate!

[1darksoldier]

if you play as dude shep theres is no way you would get to do tali after this

[CptEddyPrice]

where did u get that cool armor?

[hamnat]

Watching this was heartrending... ;-;

[hamnat]

Watching this was heartrending... ;-;

[Josh690315]

I hate Tali. So obnoxious

[unsc1470]

@Josh690315 Tali will kill you when you were old like 98 year old!

[Kserijaro]

@Josh690315 i hate fcking faggots with numbers next to their "cool" american names. Fcking dicksucker noob. Your face is obnoxious.

[PatrikN793]

You can get it on PSN as well. (The armor)

[GrandMasterKybok]

god just make peace with the geth. legion even said every time they thought they could win they attacked 100% of the time. and he said they dont think the quarians woould want peace.

[AfroAssassin1000]

u sick bastard!!!!!!!! u did that to tali voluntarily!!!!!!!!

[Solidus1086]

I really hate that they don't let you edit any of the custom armors or at least have a hide helmet option. I really want to see my characters face in a game like Mass Effect which is the main reason i never used any of the special armors even though they were superior to the standard ones.

Hope ME3 has a better gear customization system or a hide helmet option.

[xXDanShepardXx]

I........I......Why? you monster...... :'(

[djdachampman]

Lol You Son Of Ah Bitch.

[killercesar1]

Fuck in my game tali dies :(

[TheoNott]

The first time I played through I did this. It struck me as the right thing to do, "Renegade", or no. I don't consider concealing someone's crimes ever an acceptable thing to do, no matter how good of a friend that person may be. Apparently my morality isn't the same as that of Bioware. I went with the "rally the crowd" option the second time, drawing attention to the farcical, politically-motivated nature of the trial. This was true, but I still felt wrong about hiding Rael Zorah's actions.

[TheBIOPRINCE]

@TheoNott It's better to hid it, paragon doesn't mean the right thing morally or right now usually but the best at long-term, I mean doing this will make the quarians engage an stupid war, and when the reapers come you'll have even less allies... Even when i play renegade I'm not a fool i do not turn away or kill valuable allies...

[Erkekjetter616]

@TheBIOPRINCE Going to war with the geth for their homeworld is very stupid indeed. Especially since the geth don't even live there, they live on space stations, and they're rebuilding and cleaning the quarian homeworld.

[PatrikN793]

@TheoNott You can talk with one of the dudes after and to one of them you can tell what happened in the ship.

[epikphaylle]

Aww Taliii :(

[AnyDudeUSA]

I had actually thought about doing this, thinking the same as what Shepard said at the end, about things righting themselves later. Although with the Quarian fleet breaking up, and only some going for peace, I am still not sure this would play very well in the third game.

[new1080]

Am i the only one who has no qualms about killing or betraying Tali?

[UnhappyAlienFTW]

ha ha collectors edition! i get it, thats funny bioware

[HCTFuzz722]

It's like Bioware reserved all the best voice actors for Quarian characters.

[rprince418]

Well that was.......depressing.

[PraxxTheMovieman]

Thank you for recording this I could not do this not even in the Renegadest playtrough I played I just can't

[mex1jvr]

2:29 the cake is a lie

[LordManda2]

Acheivment Unlocked: Complete Monster!

[Turk343]

meh Sgt Johnson more badass then Jacob better black UNSC solider

[rprince418]

@Turk343 Sgt. Johnson is more badass than ANY UNSC Soldier.

[chanelMAN23]

Shepard: Tali nad I took back the Alereie and we didnt find any evidenc...

Harbinger: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

Shepard:(for fucks sake i knew it armour was bad ... but the priiiiize)

[lildickheads]

i found if you raly the croud, you clear tali, and you get her loyality.

[KalEl600rr]

scary armor..

and tali is awesome... best me character

[Extream419]

She never asked for this.

[T3hGearos]

@Extream419 I was just thinking that.

[Annihilator27]

@Extream419 But she wouldve never found out how much more she can become.

[fluffyzhangfei]

Why would he do that? you assume(ing direct control) that he KNOWS how this shit is gonna play out, shepard doesnt. I would do the same thing, if Tali is accepted by her people she might, ya know, be accepted back by her people. as in go back to the migrant fleet, as in not within prime screwing range on the normandy. It's not evil it's genius, i'd do the same.

[TheHURiKANE35]

Half of Shepard's old friends would shoot him on sight, huh?

1. Garrus happily joined him.

2. Wrex would've joined him if he wasn't helping the Urdnot Clan.

3. You can fuck Liara.

4. Ashley/Kaidan bitches at you, but walks away and apologizes later.

5. Tali backed you. She kinda bitched too, but whatever.

0/5 is kinda less than half...

[imaloony8]

Goku: VEGETA! That was not very paragon!

Vegeta: Renegade for life.

[Pterotrochej]

Tali's the sweetest girl. Been in love with her character since the first game. Good emotional arguing in vid though

[MrWarJoker]

That collector armor made you part of a reaper o.o

[thebok27]

WHY WOULD U DO THAT TO TALI? :(

[theknownn]

@thebok27 all I thought

[MrRogueUnit]

@thebok27

Because she her father deserved it. I'm tired of Tali fanboys trying to make Tali out to be this interesting and deep character, while shitting on "boring" characters like Jacob and Kaidan. Tali is only popular because she fap material for all the horny nerds. She a racist, and tries to cover up her father's war crimes. Whereas someone honest like Jacob is willing to see his father rot in prison for his crimes.

And I won't even get started on her damsel in distress roles in ME&2.

[RomZomCom]

@MrRogueUnit

Proof that both sides of the Tali fan/hatedom are hilariously spergy.

[thebok27]

@MrRogueUnit , I dont just like tali. I like Jacob and Kaiden, but Liara talks too much and I still like her.

[Exvzz]

@MrRogueUnit So true. Doing the right thing, and making the bold choice of turning in the evidence shouldn't result in renegade and disloyalty.

[Exvzz]

@Exvzz Hell, Jacob even pointed a gun at his dad. That makes him awesome.

[XMiezFeatEuleX]

@thebok27 i hate her i did :P

[Ieatutube]

@thebok27 I'm aware your comment is rather old but I justified betraying Tali under the misnomer that "truth is justice".

[andrion95]

Oww, tali is a very cute character.She even likes sherpard but shes too shy to admit it.i almost feel sorry for her in this vid..

[Wolfsrain90]

@andrion95 She likes MaleShep, not FemShep.

Also, I tried doing this just so I could see the new dialogue, but...NOPE. Couldn't do it.

[Soldierofdoom444]

@andrion95 well...this Shepard is a girl so...um...LESBIANS!!

[andrion95]

@Soldierofdoom444 hahaha yeah !! :p

[GeorgeMonet]

"The outrage, the politicking, this is going to tear my people apart.All so that I'll be in good standing for our Suicide Mission."

Tali'Zorah, breaking the fourth wall since ME2.

[samthepsycicclam]

@GeorgeMonet

They call it the suicide mission in game anyway because they know how dangerous it is.

[zoebiflap]

4:20

must.....resist.... referencing...Deus Ex

*straining self*

[Frozenkoldfury]

I bet you didn't hug her either

[dupree82]

And also, my Tali isn't loyal, but she survived the suicide mission. Question is, how important was that data Tali's father has been working on? Here's hoping that the research brings back her father's honor, by proving to be very important. C'mon Bioware, gimme something in return, lol.

[dupree82]

@Aname58 This was my same reasoning. The core reason being the research we found about the Geth. I even think the data mentioned how Geth reason and think. I'm hoping that this was the 'hard' decision to make now, reaping some benefits in ME 3. Will the Geth and Quarians make peace?

[RunsWithScissors61]

7:43

Somehow I imagined Shepard saying that line with THE biggest trollface imaginable.

[KingofReverie]

Pun: Collector Armor in the COLLECTOR'S edition.

[scorpion34100]

@KingofReverie Ha ha good

one! :D

[AnubusStar]

They sure do mention a lot of grenades in this scene. XD

[10lettername]

4:21 I never asked for this.

[ANAME58]

whats more important being a renegade or being a good person to Tali....... Renegade

[vermin709]

I had a high enough renegade too let her be welcome on the flotilla and not make her sad everyone wins :)

[Demiurge22]

Admiral G: "...your success in taking back the Alirai is very unexpected."

Shepard: "Shut up, Loghain."

[Emcmillin09]

Looks like Mrs. vas Normany...

*sunglasses*

has been Tali-banned.

YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

[fragman08]

@rixille What I meant to say was this:

Imagine you have a male brain surgeon who has saved thousands of children from debilitating conditions

imagine you also have a woman who is addicted to crack and robs people at gun point.

Are you telling me it'd be more right for the hero brain surgeon to be beaten up, than the crazed junkie?

I believe in judging people on character, not by race, sex or religion.

[fragman08]

I did this because I figured, if her name was cleared the upset caused by her disgraced father would be better than never being able to return home.

[RicardoDNPereira]

Harbringer: Assuming control...

"Betray Tali!!!"

[HowlingWolf518]

It's like putting a litter of kittens, a flower bouquet and a teddy bear into a bag, then dousing that bag with acid just for the sake of watching its contents disintegrate.

[GangsterHutterite]

YOU PIECE OF SHIT!

...Shepard, not you :(

[Luisp1992]

this killed me in the inside :'(

[spitsonable]

im supprised shes still loyal...

[darklink2k9]

@spitsonable I'm pretty sure if you do this, Tali is NOT loyal.

[chiffmonkey]

Big picture. This might just save the galaxy.

[Gumakaa]

... reason why I can't play renegade in Mass Effect 2... I want everybody to be happy... (except for Jack-can't be happy without banging her)... only one I can tolerate was in GOW games... no choice in the matter...

[seanbirch]

"I never asked for this."

[skytop082]

@seanbirch If you wanna make enemies.....

[MLGGamer2009]

No wonder why tali hates sheperd, she's wearing collector armor

[Streuselsturm]

wow you really fucked things up in that universe

[bleach025801]

i did the another way when i got everyone to come forward and speak on her side and she didnt get banished or her fathers name hurt so much better than this -.-

[raidenpz]

that's shitty

either you get her loyality and she gets screwed or you help her and you get screwed

[HelioDanto91]

...YOU MONGREL!

[omghegotagun]

Man I had to pause after hear 'tali, you coulda stopped me from turning in that evidence'. That warrants a punch to the face...

Pretty fucked up to do that

[Skorge789]

Damn...

[MrUniq]

This alternative sucks pretty bad lol....and it's Paragon too!....I spared tali the shame..turned out better IMO.

[thepiethatflies]

there's no way i could do this to tali...

[EchoBoomer1987]

What do you expect from someone that wears reaper gear?

[theknownn]

@EchoBoomer1987 more tali love

[amitabho123]

@EchoBoomer1987 I wore Collector armour throughout the game but I was an almost complete paragon. D:

[AppleCooro]

Well that settles it, I'm sticking to NOT revealing the evidence.

[bladestar17]

@AppleCooro its a better idea to use the renegade option. (or paragon if you're a pussy)

[Decnet01]

@bladestar17 Yeah, i would take that statement and put it in real life as well.. better to use knuckles than brains right?... /;) .....pffffffffffffffffffffffff­fffffffffffff

[Tuan12088]

WTF Zevran doing here ? And also the other voice sound like Loghain to ? Is it right or it just me ??

[linksmaster5050]

@Tuan12088 Morrigans in this too, it was quite the pleasent suprise to see so many of the Dragon Age cast in one place :P

[ioannisdenton]

@Tuan12088 lol no, this is Loghain. he has a great characteristic voice. Also one admiral is also Morrigan!!! the other female.

[CardboardWarlord]

@ioannisdenton it is also Kain from legacy of Kain.

[ioannisdenton]

@CardboardWarlord really? i do not remember his voice as its been ages since i played that game!!

[zZKaZuRaZz]

Wah ultimate asshole lol :O

Daymmmm....Tali got butt raped mercilessly ToT

[DanTheGuitarMan42]

I would just redo the entire mission...

[troy11995]

Will you still have her loyalty after doing this?

[Wolfwood824]

@troy11995

Considering how she repeatedly informs you of how pissed she is at you and how much you screwed her over, what do you think? =P

[Thevas11]

@troy11995 Take a wild guess. Did Tali sound like a loyal squad-member when you talked with her afterward on the Normandy?

[FreeFalcon2]

Not even with my renegade Shep was I able to do this, but then again this means I'm not truly a renegade. I'm more of a paragade/renegon (full renegade and two bars paragon my best score.)

[xynth101088]

This is why I can never play the bad guy/prick in bioware's games. They write there characters so well that it hurts me to be mean to them, lol.

[bulldog300]

Admiral: Your reclaiming of the Alerai was... unexpected.

Sheperd: Bitch, please!

[megadjdj]

i Play paragade all my dialog is paragon and il take a paragon cutscene thing when it comes up you now press LT i only get my renegade because i cant help doing the renegade quick time things like in thanes mission interrogating that guy and then you slap him across the head "pay attention"

[Zoezoek259]

@megadjdj me too its a reaction I always do, i try to play "good guy" but out of habit i press the "bad guy" options.. :(

[keshaz12]

Tali would propably go rage mode on the normandy and reveal her beau-ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL BEFORE YOU CAN SEE HER FACE!

Every body:"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Players:"Bioware STOP TEASING"

[BCete]

i havent played the game but after the comments you seems to have done some real shit...

[LightStreak567]

Achievement: 100000 dick points earned

[enterprise0709]

Renegades: Born to be assholes.

[samthepsycicclam]

@enterprise0709

True but there are levels. I prefer the renegade path but at least I have the decency to yell the admiralty board into submission rather than upset the hell out of Tali