I'm not surprised. When I was in Prague I got the impression that it wouldn't be too safe for a nazi to flaunt his colors. Czechs are generally very warm and fun people.
I wish the left in America would wake up. You cannot confront absolutist right wing thugs with reason and tolerance. They live by the gun and the boot and need to be met head on with guns and boots.
@versepolis Just a shame for you that Anarchism has no public support, because it's a philosophy that doesn't work, there can never be a society without authority or a society where everyone's truly free.
@Peristerygr Why would you care if they Czech, Chinese or Peruvian, it's immaterial to you, you're meant to be an anarchist, there's no room for patriotism in anarchism.
@Peristerygr Fascism is patriotic, I'm not a fascist, but fascism is nationalism taken to the extreme, that's an indisputable empirical fact. Take Benito Mussolini's fascist Italy for example, it came about to combat socialist internationalism and liberal traitors, and because there was no other political party other than the Italian Fascist Party to provide nationalism as a unifying policy, they came to power.
@MouseWarlord 'Supposedly'. And you suppose wrong. Communism is about community, putting all the resources in common. Anarchism means 'no order', 'no government', and so on.
The 'purest form of communism' still needs some form of authority, the people's authority.
@Thelordisgayandmerry Heard of Anarcho-Marxism? And no, I agree with you, anarchism doesn't work, and even in a society that supposedly has no authority, isn't the goal of the destruction of all forms of order, and the prevention of the spawning of any authority an authority in itself?
@MouseWarlord I never said that anarchism couldn't work. I never said anarchism had to be logical. Anarchism is an absurdist view of life, which means anarchists can do whatever they want. If they have to be authoritarians to stop authority, they can. Anarchists allow themselves to do anything they want, meaning they can allow themselves to be dictators if they want to.
Anarcho-marxism is either anarchism or marxism. Not both.
@Thelordisgayandmerry Anarchism isn't an absurdist view, that's ridiculous. Anarchism is a form of communism, look it up.
Anarcho-Marxism is a type of political philosophy.
Your error is not having a clue about what you talk about, "anarchists can be authoritarians to stop authority", I've never heard such drivel in my life.
@MouseWarlord Again, you mention "anarcho-marxism". Anarcho-marxists are communists. Anarchists are not.
You think Anarchism is a form of communism, but communism is a form of order. I suggest you look up the definition of "anarchism". You'll see it's not as simple as you think.
You obviously don't understand what anarchy is. Forget anarcho-marxists for a minute, and you'll see they're only part of all the anarchists.
You're just typing whatever you learned in Philosophy 101, aren't you?
@Thelordisgayandmerry Anarchism is Communism, Anarcho-Marxism is a type of Anarchism. In Anarchism, there is no form of federal law, no form of established authority, no currency, no borders etc. Nothing is privately owned, everything is collectivised. All punishments are given by a congress of everyone in the community, no own is democratically represented.
Communism doesn't have to be a form of order, heard of the Anarchist in Catalonia in the civil war in Spain?
You persist in your belief that anarchy and communism are the same thing. They are not. Anarcho-marxism is a combination of both.
Then the anarchists in Catalonia were anarchists, not communists, weren't they?
You don't seem to understand communism either. It's supposed to have currency, borders, and so on, and the people's authority on the people themselves.
@Thelordisgayandmerry Real anarchism is a type of communism traditionally, and most anarchists are communists. You won't find many that don't call themselves communist.
The anarchists in Catalonia were communist, read up on it, quite interesting.
You don't understand communism. It's a socio-political movement that seeks a classless, stateless society, based upon collectivised common ownership and abolition of private property. It isn't meant to have borders, it's internationalist.
in california a "white -looking " jew dressed like a neo nazi and acting like a neo nazi or white thug started a fight with 2 afro-americans and then when the nazi jew was losing the fight he started screaming that he was a jew so the niggers would stop beating him up because he was in a protected class. the nazi jew had the 2 niggers arrested for hate crimes after THE NAZI JEW STARTED THE FIGHT. JEWS ABUSE HATE CRIME LAWS
jews are very afraid because europe is falling apart and muslims know what jews have done to them and thinking whites know jewry has ruined their society so jews give large sums of money to anarchists for protection but when europe goes broke there will be no laws to protect jews and "nazis" will not announce when they are going to attack jews nor wil the muslims.
the anarchists already have "nazis" in their ranks who will tell where their organizers live when the day comes..
antifa jsou něco jako na pul cikáni a bývalí většinou náckové kopni nácka do prdele kopni antifu do prdele kopni morgoše do prdele a bude od těch zmrdu na světě klid
neo nazis are too proud to work with muslims in identifying and getting revenge on their common jew enemies. this is a mistake. the best people i talk to about jewry are muslims not freak anachists who sell their bodies as street prostitutes for drugs.
how did the jews get all these anachist weridos to come to prague? did jews rent buses and give them drugs? most anachists sell their bodies to buy drugs.
i want to see some muslims beat up those anachist freaks.
@The096757 yea, they also have horns hooves and a big pointy trident. They reek of sulfur, and most of them have killed their own mother for drug money. They obey the (omnipresent, omnipotent) jews. Your accuracy and non-biased believes, are an inspiration to Historians around the world. Keep up the good work. Zieg fail
neo nazis in ameirca were told by their leaders back in the late 1980s to get jobs in the system as police officers or parole officers and not protest on the street.
anarchists are nobodies in the usa who have long criminal records who cannot get jobs because of drug addiction and they are paid by jews and wealthy non-whites to protest against "nazis" and work as prostitutes for non-whites. they are nobodies who will be the first killed when USA goes broke.
police in the USA had to protect gay pride marchers from attacks commmited by anarchists. when anarchists were not allowed to attack gay prider marchers the anarchists started tearing up gay owned shops.
That's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and the weakest attempt at counter-propaganda ever demonstrated on youtube. I guess you don't know much about either the anarchist or gay community. However, gay pride shows have dealt with issues of violence because of paranoid right-wingers and religious zealots.
you just cannot accept the reality that half jews and partial jews and many of the so-called anarchists hate gays and attack them on the streets all the time but it is blamed on "nazis by the jews and afro americans working in the newspapers.
half jews are getting non-whites locked up for hates crimes in the USA AFTER half jews start fights and then lose those same fights.
those half jews tell the police they were attacked for being a jew. jews abuse hate crimes laws all the time.
how much tolerance do jews have for muslims in places like libya and iraq? sarkozy is a jew and murdered tons of muslims and africans in libya. are muslims in europe so stupid as to think jews are their friends? . these "nazis" as the jew media in europe called them wanted to protest the wars jews start in places like iraq and libya? how is that a bad thing?
lol you're fucking retarded, sarkozy is aiding the rebels in libya, he's helping the "muslims" not that the conflict should even be looked at in those terms. iraq also has nothing to do with jews.
you're fucking retarded, like its clearly stated across all news stations with the fuck do you get this drivel?
you are one, stupid, fucked up, ugly ass, nigger queer. it was all jews like paul wolfowicz who caused mass murder in iraq. even muslims in europe have the brains to know jews are killing them in their home countries.wolfowicz, tommy franks,richard perle ect all JEW PIGS wanted the iraq war
you are a fucked up, ugly nigger freak who should be bashed on the street.
whites should work with europe's muslims to carry out attacks on jews and then part ways.
lol you're fucking daft, what about bush, i guess he's jewish too, he wanted the war.
like christ man, do you see the gaping holes in your logic.
you're a scared little fucker who's to stupid and weak to stand up to the world's problems in any realistic way so you cling to the fascist bandwagon cause it makes whitey feel special even though he's just a violent fucked up child.
These radical "political movements" today are, in the central European context, nothing but a social club for angry adolescents - similar to "goth" or "punk" subcultures. There's no serious political agenda or manifestos reminiscent of their eponymous forebears from the 1910s, 20s & 30s.
@musicalidea, most accurate analysis here. But me I would look at it as just a symptom of the fact that everything whether it's right or left cultural or political has been appropriated by the powerful.
@chaosaxis Agreed. They both have very elementary, simplistic logic that just doesn't coincide with the way the world works today. They should just let them eat at eachother.
@PsyphaX09 Neither group is worth SHIT. They are both trouble makers. Just b/c Nazis are worse doesn't make Anarchists suddenly good. They cause more trouble than solve.
Always ignorant Americans who make these comments. You don't live in Europe, you don't know what it is like. Immigration is destroying Europe. Millions of immigrants come here when there is no work. Most resorting to crime, destroying or culture and identity.
this is what captialism brought eastern europe. the jews in the west wanted eastern europe to be "free" meaning jews would be free. nothing will change until jews are executed in the streets.
anarchists are basically criminals and street trash who are not even wanted by jews and niggers. the jews and niggers want clean whites to infect with their diseases. anarchists are organized by jews.
@The096757 the people who call themselves anarchists are just someone's useful idiots. i bet noone of them read bakunin, kropotkin or makhno. i seriously can't imagine what those guys are fighting for.
@The096757, *facepalm* OH how the stupid are totally unaware of their stupidity. Yeah, the reality is that there is no "Jewish" conspiracy idiot. I find it hilarious you have a HARD ON for the JEWS and ignore all the horrible things that the Christians and Mussies do. In fact, THEY are the ones that control the MOST things, not the Jews. The Jews are merely a SPEC compared to the Christians and Mussies. ON TOP OF THAT it is not even the JEW who is the problem but the Zionist.
if ghadhafi leave libya tons of africans will come to europe. the jews are the root of your problem. they completely own the media in the west and use that media to slaughter arabs and incite people against muslims.
Why do anarchists and anti-fa cover their faces the cowards. They have no moral compass. Defeat fascism by destroying some shops and yelling fuck the police. Nah... they're just there to have a good time. Grow the fuck up both the Nazis and the Anti-fa...
undercover white nazis have attended anarchist events in the usa and set them up to be arrested by the police for drug offenses.
the anachists are always attacking nazis but are never able to do anything to the corporations they CLAIM to hate. they are organized by jews to attack whites who don't want niggers in their countries. until whites start killing jews nothing will change for them. the lives of anarchist criminals and niggers have no value in any white country.
@The096757, First of all, it is not organized by the "Jews" it is organized by Ashkenazi ZIONISTS. SECOND OF ALL, MOST THINGS are controlled by CHRISTIANS so why don't you start attacking THEM!? You are ludicrous.
Far more than half of the right extremists inside Germany are snitchers of German secret services.I guess that the NAZIs in the US with their help are being guided and supported by the German BND as well. The BND is actually the NAZI Gestapo under a new name.
These right wing troublemakers are very useful to divert from German human rights abuses in the past and today.My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years and was murdered on 11.7.09
@mstruthserum. What parasites? Oh the Swastika on your forehead yeah that's a parasite. What is the goal of fascism, oh yeah nothing, just kill everyone who's different than you. I see why you are a Nazi. I hope you know that There are more Nazi terrorist attacks in the United states than Al-qada attacks it's true look it up on the homeland defense report, so tell me who the parasite is terrorist scum.
@4500jas I wish white Americans will wake up and be more forceful towards the parasites in control of the country. They can start by flushing this cockroach "4500jas" down the nearest toilet.
@LiBlub1 In an anarcho communist society the "collective" rules all. What if I disagree with the mob? what if I want to actually KEEP the land that me & my fathers before me have worked to preserve, maintain & improve. What if I want to keep something I have always called my own? What if I think property rights are invaluable? what if I think that individuality is an extension of human development? I would become an enemy of the mob & that is something that will cost me my life & liberty.
@allwittynamestaken No. You don't comprehend the communist doctrine. Your liberty will be ultimate in that you won't be constrained by any monetary obstacles such as affordance, neither will your brothers or sisters.
Addressing the private property note, you will have full access to all that you need and want. Everything from housing; to transportation; to music, film and culture; to recreational substances if that's what you want.
@LiBlub1 you seem to think there are unlimited resources in the world, there are only so many diamonds and gold bullions to go around. This is only fantasy.
@allwittynamestaken No. There are absolutely enough resources for everybody.
Today, the three richest men in the world have an estimated worth, equal or greater than the GDP of the 42 poorest countries in the world. You don't seem to see, just how unequally capital is distributed in a capitalist system.
The only reason why there is not enough food for the starving people of the 3rd world is because the 1st will only stay rich if they keep the others down. It's not a resource issue at all.
@LiBlub1 do you really believe there to be 7,000,000,000 equal, running cars in the world? don't be silly, central planning allows the central planners to control the flow of resources. Control over the flow of resources is the whole reason why we're discussing Anarchy in the first place! No one, besides me, my family, my friends, and my customers will influence my life.
@allwittynamestaken Central planning is done by a democratic vote. Favorably unanimous. And no I don't believe there to be 7,000,000,000 equal, running cars in the world. To be more specific, I don't expect there to be 1,000,000,000. Public transportation is superior. And maybe 700,000,000 rental cars. What central planning other than resource planning, transportation planning, school planning, architectural planning and food planning do you expect there to be. The starting premise is freedom.
@LiBlub1 The ending premise is destitution, can you name a single central planning society which has grown more successful, more wealthy, and more mutually profitable then a free market society? When man does not need the government to decide his life and his wealth he is a truly free man. When we allow our neighbors, our community workers, our community council to decide our lives we are not free; we are at the mercy of the mob.
@allwittynamestaken How can destitution possibly be the premise when the whole point of the communist society is to uplift every member thereof. And how could you possibly claim that the free market is mutually profitable? Mutually profitable for ExxonMobil, Wal-Mart and Citigroup perhaps, not for regular people.
In a capitalist system it is the Landlords, the Employers and the Businessmen that make the calls, and are the only people which practice any freedom. Workers practice but surfdom.
@allwittynamestaken How can destitution possibly be the premise when the whole point of the communist society is to uplift every member thereof. And how could you possibly claim that the free market is mutually profitable? Mutually profitable for ExxonMobil, Wal-Mart and Citigroup perhaps, not for regular people.
In a capitalist system it is the Landlords, the Employers and the Businessmen that make the calls, and are the only people which practice any freedom. Workers practice but surfdom.
@LiBlub1 I think you, like so many other Communists, confuse free market with Corporatism. Corporatism requires a state to protect and support corporations while a free market is directly OPPOSED to State control of ANYTHING.
This is what I hate about debating with communitarians, they have literally no history to support their argument, the only times throughout history where technology and human advancement occured was in societies where states and communes diminished and freedom prevailed.
@LiBlub1 sure I can! I'm glad you asked! may I say the entire Industrial Revolution?
Now, may I ask you to name an invention that wasn't created by free hands? (besides weapons of war, holocaust devices and camps, slavery, propanganda, totalitarianism, holy wars, imperialism and natiionalism)
@allwittynamestaken Inventions can't be credited to the free hand of the market. The capitalist doctrine says that if there is a need, the need will automatically be filled(except the need for food and shelter of course). There was no inherent need for the loom, it was just effective. And culture, art and especially technology develop in good times when a majorities have food and shelter, not when they're starving.
All the things you mentioned are by the way all right wing movements/inventions.
@LiBlub1 are you saying no communist countries have ever opressed? If you are then your not even logical enough to consider arguing with.
Food and shelter are adequate, in fact the only times in society where we see mass starvation is under a centralized government, whether accidental or intentional (Fascist Nations, Feudalist Europe, Czarist Russia, USSR, Maoist China, African Republics, North Korea, Cuba) Whens the last time you heard of Industrial America starving? Hong Kong? New Zealand?
@allwittynamestaken New Zeeland is one of the most socialized countries in the world. The US is a fascist state. Cuba has better, wider health care than the US. No communist countries have ever oppressed.
And I've already told you that I'm a communist so I don't understand why you're debating centralization, I don't like it either. But, Centralization can be both good or bad, it depends on who's running the central. Capitalism ALWAYS leaves people starving, And Centralizes capital to elites.
@LiBlub1 New Zealand is 4th most economically free nation in the world, I said INDUSTRIAL America (pay attention!). Can you tell me why the Castro family, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong Il & Kim Il Sung had to violently murder just to maintain order? People do not oppose authority when life is full of splender.
Once again, your equating Capitalism with Corporatism and Elitism. In a Capitalist society everyone is taxed or not taxed equally & all have the opportunity to rise to the top.
@LiBlub1 You still haven't given a single example of a starving Capitalist society, a society that has grown more successful and mutually raised the standard of living than a free market, or an invention of the collective.
@allwittynamestaken That's because you presented false claims I had to rebuke.
People in the US are starving, every third world country is starving, all around the western world people in the ghettoes are starving. Less people are poor in my native Sweden than in the US, we're less capitalistic society. Do you seriously mean that capitalism equally distributes wealth better than socialism. That is impossible. Capitalism = Survival of the fittest. Communism = Survival of everyone.
@LiBlub1 Then I must ask why the US gdp & ppp is higher then Sweden's. Now that you have "rebuked" my claims you can answer my damn questions & quit dodging them.
how many collective inventions have their been that was actually benificial to mankind?
how many have starved in a free market compared to any communist country?
how many free market countries have a lower standard of living then communist countries?
why does freedom of personal interest create more societal wealth then collective?
@allwittynamestaken 1. The invention of the collective. 3 billion gadgets won't stop 3 billion people from starving.
2. In planned economy, fascist states I'd say about 50 million. In OTHER unjust social systems, such as feudalism and capitalism X has died. They've been along for a too long time to estimate. There has never been a sovereign communist society.
3. Again, no communist countries.
4. What wealth IS, is decide by the bourgeoise, they control the £,$,€ etc., 4 is wholly incorrect.
1. when has a mass collective prevented starvation at ANY point throughout history? it makes it easier to create starvation. You name a Communist nation & there has been starvation.
2. Feudalism resides on central planning, Corporatism resides on central planning, pure Capitalism has existed in very few states throughout history (post 60's Hong Kong, Industrial Age America, Montenegro)
3. then there's no basis of evidence for you
4. wealth is an increase in the standard of living
@allwittynamestaken 4. No????? Let's set up a hypothetical village with 100 people, and 1000 gold coins(G)(somewhat cliché). Wealth is when (G) is concentrated in to pockets so that some people have less than 10(G) each, and others have more than 10(G). That is wealth. Personal wealth can only be achieved when you have more than someone else.
Feudalism is centrally planned yes, capitalism too. They're both pyramid structured societal forms and appreciates some individuals more, and others less.
@LiBlub1 *sigh*, I'm not saying that Capitalism distributes wealth better then Socialism, I'm saying that those who work the hardest deserve the most pay i.e. free market. Why would I go to college for 7 years to become a doctor only to earn what a high school (secondary school) dropout janitor earns. Because, for some reason, he deserves my money? why would I ever want to serve someone I don't know and who doesn't want to know me?
@LiBlub1 Communism/Socialism is theft of the rich by the poor, Corporatism is theft of the poor by the rich. Capitalism is a system where you keep what you earn and answer to no one other then whom you choose.
@allwittynamestaken You know I'm right. The one who holds capital, holds the world. If communism/socialism is theft by the poor from the rich as you call it, then sure. We live in a world where 9 year olds are forced into prostitution to put food on their families plates and you worry about personal wealth? Have you ever stopped and thought maybe you're not the centre of the universe? Corporatism is fucking capitalism. When you get lucky your company becomes a corporation, that starves children.
@LiBlub1 ugh! once again! Corporatism requires a state to protect and support corporations, Capitalism requires lack of state control! Do you understand that your free to boycott any products provided by a corporation or entity you don't agree with? did you know your free to organize? did you know you may still have a commune WITHIN an anarcho capitalist society? did you know that you have a choice of products? did you know that child labor countries are centralized? *sigh* of course you don't
@allwittynamestaken So if a cheap food company which has a 200 kilometer radius monopoly raise their prices and I can't afford to travel, what do I do? Die? Let's say they use child labour, if I boycott them I die, if I don't the children stay as slaves and starve. Before the 8 hour work day and the anti child labour laws Britain had a life expectancy of 17 for factory workers.
The government don't employ 7 year olds, uncontrolled corporations do.
@LiBlub1 you seem to assume Freedom of Market choices create monopolies, without a government to provide a way to a monopoly its impossible for one to form, theres always droves of business men and women who are looking for an untapped market or a potential monopoly they can break. Speaking of your hatred of monopolies, you seem not to aknowlege that government has a monopoly on force, taxes, courts and, by your system, your diet, relgion, education, culture and speech.
@LiBlub1 Corporate monopolies are bad but Government monopolies are benevolent? Seems to me to be a logic that private ownership of slaves is evil opposed to the politicians ownership of slaves is moral. Your idealogy is contradicting.
The people's interest should be in stripping their freedom of choice?
Corporate monopolies are proof that capitalism doesn't work but government monopolies prove that communism does?
Taking away individuality some how helps the whole?
@allwittynamestaken I'm opposed to the state. My point was all monopolies are bad because they make it possible for the monopoly-holders to practice power over other people, i.e derogating their rights. In capitalism the strongest survive and the weakest don't, do you call that freedom of choice?
How is this about individuality?
Moral is subjective, how else could you not want basic human rights?
Communism and the State are by their very nature contradictory so that argument is simply dumb.
@LiBlub1 I call that freedom because your success is determined by your willingness to work, unless you have a SERIOUS mental handicap (at which case there are several charities for you) you may still work. Case & point; Stephen Hawking. a state is the compulsory political institution of a centralized government that maintains a monopoly of the legitimate use of force within a certain territory
How is complete control over someones life NOT a state?
@allwittynamestaken How is communism control over your life? You have no bounds. And empathy will lead the way. Stephen Hawking is a shitty example, he has an IQ of 160 not every handicapped person has that, not every handicapped person gets to go to Harvard.
So what if you're handicapped but not eligible for charities. What if the charity monopoly holders just happen to dislike black people.
@LiBlub1 Charity Monopoly holder? now your just setting up fantasy situations. In a capitalistic system it is unprofitable to discriminate and capitalism is all about profit and innovation. why would a reject someone who will make my company a leader on the global market just becuase of his race/religion?
@LiBlub1 Let me set up an example of my very own; lets say the majority in your village wants to donate half of their crops to your neighboring village. You believe thats unfair considering how well your neihboring village is doing and how low your standard of living is. You decide to prevent your starvation but conserving crops for yourself and your family. The crops, through your blood and sweat, are now yours. Why should the mob be able to take your families livelihood away from you?
@allwittynamestaken Why would you donate to the neighboring village if they were doing better than your own village? Doesn't make any sense. Stupid example.
And I have one single question. Do you think every human being has an equal right to life?
@LiBlub1 doesn't matter why, if the majority says its right (by your standards) its right. Yes I believe in the unalieble rights of Life, Liberty and Property. However I believe not everyone works as hard as everyone else, therefore I believe not everyone should get paid as much as everyone else. Our main difference is that I believe rights of the Individual AND the Government come from the people, where as you believe the rights of the Inidividual and government come from government.
@allwittynamestaken Did you take debating classes from Goebbels? Communism and government are contradictory.
And Life and Liberty are contradictory to Property. Why do you have this fetish for personal owning? You have the opportunity to live in a world where everyone has access to everything they need and want in superabundance, including yourself, and you're ready to give up all that for the right to private property? Doesn't that seem just slightly egomaniacal to you?
@LiBlub1 Once again, a state is the compulsory institution of a centralized organization that maintains a monopoly of the legitimate use of force within a certain territory. Therefore communism, is by very definition, staitism.
Property is an extension of natural rights. I own myself and the fruits of my labor, regardless of what your band of marauders have to say about it.
did you take your idea of property rights from Max Stirner?
@LiBlub1 It would seem egomaniacal if everyone caring and sharing and no one considering they're own needs were rational, however, unless everyone completely agrees with everyone on everything there will be a minority voice. When that happens coercion must be used in the "name of the people" to prevent dissunity or civil war. Once that has happened your beautiful system has degenerated into a slave state.
@allwittynamestaken That's absurd. First of all there is no state so there aren't really anything to decide upon besides like road building, democratically. Most things will be run by machines(modern day technology) so almost no one would have to work. You have this fixed idea that there's some absolute Leviathan on top, but there isn't. And there probably won't be any guns factories either because no one will wan to hurt or kill anyone because they don't need to. Rich people start wars.
@LiBlub1 "No one will want to hurt or kill anyone". of course they wouldn't.....of course they wouldn't.... I'm just happy you and your kind are in the minority.
THE CZECH ARE GERMAN TRASH FROM THE CAVES OD VALHALA
unfukkkmee 2 weeks ago
Ironic that I used to be a anarchist then I became a skinhead, and now my past and my present collide
hellyeah11110 2 weeks ago
where is this, because there are so many anarchists?
Gehr96 1 month ago
These Nazis got what they deserved.
wowamonn 1 month ago 6
neonatal nasi aren't only pure shit and brainless, they are so ugly too!!
In utopia I hopes, waiting for everyone to fulfill its evolution towards true humanity spirit.
Astharot90 3 months ago 2
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ALLE UNTERMENSCHEN MUSS STERBEN! EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER! SIEG HEIL!
911urbanchaos 3 months ago
I'm not surprised. When I was in Prague I got the impression that it wouldn't be too safe for a nazi to flaunt his colors. Czechs are generally very warm and fun people.
hectorbolshevik 4 months ago 2
I wish the left in America would wake up. You cannot confront absolutist right wing thugs with reason and tolerance. They live by the gun and the boot and need to be met head on with guns and boots.
vudu8ball 4 months ago
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Part of me wishes I was there to kick neo nazi ass, part of me is too scared to go up against a big bald guy
telltalemse 4 months ago
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telltalemse 4 months ago
long live antifa
burningflag43 4 months ago
anarchists look like they need a good bath do they like being scuffy and dirty?
russ9356 4 months ago
.Anarchists, Communists, and AntiFa unite!
MrPointforward 4 months ago
czech awesome ! i wanna play some ArmA !
chabi3000 5 months ago
it makes me horny when i see the fat nazi bleeding ...
Earl1904 6 months ago
neo nazi fuckin bastards go now end fuck your sesters
virgfj 6 months ago
@virgfj You crazy? There'll be more of them if they fuck their sisters.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry yea write...
virgfj 5 months ago
@virgfj Birds and the Bees and all that.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
No mercy to the antifa.
Kill then on 10c1 !
emelianenko38 6 months ago
There should be 7 billion governments. And there's no fascist thought allowed in mine.
quidnick 6 months ago
follow your leader, emptyhead
kmnln 6 months ago
Go forth Anarchists. No fier!!! Fuck over Nazi shit.
GDEJEBU2 6 months ago
which is a bigger group Nazi's or Anachist's?
TheGunPulseClan 6 months ago
we need to organize globally. fuck borders, we don't give a shiy about borders. let the fight become international! ANTIFA!!!
versepolis 6 months ago
@versepolis Just a shame for you that Anarchism has no public support, because it's a philosophy that doesn't work, there can never be a society without authority or a society where everyone's truly free.
MouseWarlord 6 months ago
Go Czech anarchists. They are too many there! Kick their asses!!!
Peristerygr 6 months ago
@Peristerygr Why would you care if they Czech, Chinese or Peruvian, it's immaterial to you, you're meant to be an anarchist, there's no room for patriotism in anarchism.
MouseWarlord 6 months ago
@MouseWarlord And fascism is not patriotism unless for populistic and "conroling the masses" reasons
Peristerygr 6 months ago
@Peristerygr Fascism is patriotic, I'm not a fascist, but fascism is nationalism taken to the extreme, that's an indisputable empirical fact. Take Benito Mussolini's fascist Italy for example, it came about to combat socialist internationalism and liberal traitors, and because there was no other political party other than the Italian Fascist Party to provide nationalism as a unifying policy, they came to power.
MouseWarlord 6 months ago
@MouseWarlord Anarchists can do whatever the fuck they want. Or not. But maybe yeah.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry Do you even know what anarchism is?
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord Do you? True anarchism means doing whatever the fuck you want. And if that means kicking fascist ass in the process, then why not?
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry True, but true anarchism is supposedly the purest form of communism, under which you can't have unlimited freedom.
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord 'Supposedly'. And you suppose wrong. Communism is about community, putting all the resources in common. Anarchism means 'no order', 'no government', and so on.
The 'purest form of communism' still needs some form of authority, the people's authority.
Anarchism doesn't accept any kind of authority.
No regime or government grants unlimited freedom.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry Heard of Anarcho-Marxism? And no, I agree with you, anarchism doesn't work, and even in a society that supposedly has no authority, isn't the goal of the destruction of all forms of order, and the prevention of the spawning of any authority an authority in itself?
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord I never said that anarchism couldn't work. I never said anarchism had to be logical. Anarchism is an absurdist view of life, which means anarchists can do whatever they want. If they have to be authoritarians to stop authority, they can. Anarchists allow themselves to do anything they want, meaning they can allow themselves to be dictators if they want to.
Anarcho-marxism is either anarchism or marxism. Not both.
Your error is assuming anarchy has to make sense.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry Anarchism isn't an absurdist view, that's ridiculous. Anarchism is a form of communism, look it up.
Anarcho-Marxism is a type of political philosophy.
Your error is not having a clue about what you talk about, "anarchists can be authoritarians to stop authority", I've never heard such drivel in my life.
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord Again, you mention "anarcho-marxism". Anarcho-marxists are communists. Anarchists are not.
You think Anarchism is a form of communism, but communism is a form of order. I suggest you look up the definition of "anarchism". You'll see it's not as simple as you think.
You obviously don't understand what anarchy is. Forget anarcho-marxists for a minute, and you'll see they're only part of all the anarchists.
You're just typing whatever you learned in Philosophy 101, aren't you?
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry Anarchism is Communism, Anarcho-Marxism is a type of Anarchism. In Anarchism, there is no form of federal law, no form of established authority, no currency, no borders etc. Nothing is privately owned, everything is collectivised. All punishments are given by a congress of everyone in the community, no own is democratically represented.
Communism doesn't have to be a form of order, heard of the Anarchist in Catalonia in the civil war in Spain?
What's Philosophy 101?
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord Oh dear, but I've tried so hard.
You persist in your belief that anarchy and communism are the same thing. They are not. Anarcho-marxism is a combination of both.
Then the anarchists in Catalonia were anarchists, not communists, weren't they?
You don't seem to understand communism either. It's supposed to have currency, borders, and so on, and the people's authority on the people themselves.
Anarchism accepts no authority whatsoever.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry Real anarchism is a type of communism traditionally, and most anarchists are communists. You won't find many that don't call themselves communist.
The anarchists in Catalonia were communist, read up on it, quite interesting.
You don't understand communism. It's a socio-political movement that seeks a classless, stateless society, based upon collectivised common ownership and abolition of private property. It isn't meant to have borders, it's internationalist.
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord No borders of course, my mistake there.
Anarchists who call themselves communists are not anarchists. They're communists. Because true anarchy is a difficult idea to grasp.
Thelordisgayandmerry 5 months ago
@Thelordisgayandmerry But anarchists would argue that communism is anarchism, that the Leninists and Maoists got it wrong.
MouseWarlord 5 months ago
@MouseWarlord Some would. They wouldn't be anarchists.
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Peristerygr 6 months ago
in california a "white -looking " jew dressed like a neo nazi and acting like a neo nazi or white thug started a fight with 2 afro-americans and then when the nazi jew was losing the fight he started screaming that he was a jew so the niggers would stop beating him up because he was in a protected class. the nazi jew had the 2 niggers arrested for hate crimes after THE NAZI JEW STARTED THE FIGHT. JEWS ABUSE HATE CRIME LAWS
The096757 6 months ago
jews are very afraid because europe is falling apart and muslims know what jews have done to them and thinking whites know jewry has ruined their society so jews give large sums of money to anarchists for protection but when europe goes broke there will be no laws to protect jews and "nazis" will not announce when they are going to attack jews nor wil the muslims.
the anarchists already have "nazis" in their ranks who will tell where their organizers live when the day comes..
The096757 6 months ago
I love the guy's translation, just sayin'. Kinda makes me laugh.
Rktamaccio 6 months ago
HEIL HITLER!
Punisherfan123 6 months ago
chcipejte,skurvenci nacisticki
SexiDevianD 6 months ago
Anarchy!!!
TheStopRacizm 6 months ago
anarchy i n prague haha! hold on anarchists
jonamaiden 7 months ago
Kiil all nazi!! U nás v Česku nemaj šanci!!! Ať žije AFA!!!!!
maryjuan23 7 months ago
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antifa jsou něco jako na pul cikáni a bývalí většinou náckové kopni nácka do prdele kopni antifu do prdele kopni morgoše do prdele a bude od těch zmrdu na světě klid
libertasystem 7 months ago
neo nazis are too proud to work with muslims in identifying and getting revenge on their common jew enemies. this is a mistake. the best people i talk to about jewry are muslims not freak anachists who sell their bodies as street prostitutes for drugs.
The096757 7 months ago
how did the jews get all these anachist weridos to come to prague? did jews rent buses and give them drugs? most anachists sell their bodies to buy drugs.
i want to see some muslims beat up those anachist freaks.
The096757 7 months ago
@The096757 yea, they also have horns hooves and a big pointy trident. They reek of sulfur, and most of them have killed their own mother for drug money. They obey the (omnipresent, omnipotent) jews. Your accuracy and non-biased believes, are an inspiration to Historians around the world. Keep up the good work. Zieg fail
sfaginx 7 months ago
@The096757 I kill you viva la anarchia
maryjuan23 7 months ago
A world without tolerance is a world that needs to see serious change.
fuckbosco 7 months ago
@fuckbosco
dude, i don't see any reason why in the world should we tolerate neo-nazis.
racism should never be supported by anyone, it has no place in any peaceful society.
i only support anarchist in this instance because i just love seeing a neo-nazi get beat up real good!
PsyphaX09 7 months ago
@PsyphaX09
neo nazis in ameirca were told by their leaders back in the late 1980s to get jobs in the system as police officers or parole officers and not protest on the street.
anarchists are nobodies in the usa who have long criminal records who cannot get jobs because of drug addiction and they are paid by jews and wealthy non-whites to protest against "nazis" and work as prostitutes for non-whites. they are nobodies who will be the first killed when USA goes broke.
The096757 7 months ago
@PsyphaX09
police in the USA had to protect gay pride marchers from attacks commmited by anarchists. when anarchists were not allowed to attack gay prider marchers the anarchists started tearing up gay owned shops.
The096757 7 months ago
@The096757
lemme guess..you're one of them?? just wondering......
PsyphaX09 7 months ago
@The096757
That's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and the weakest attempt at counter-propaganda ever demonstrated on youtube. I guess you don't know much about either the anarchist or gay community. However, gay pride shows have dealt with issues of violence because of paranoid right-wingers and religious zealots.
bigollameo 6 months ago
you just cannot accept the reality that half jews and partial jews and many of the so-called anarchists hate gays and attack them on the streets all the time but it is blamed on "nazis by the jews and afro americans working in the newspapers.
half jews are getting non-whites locked up for hates crimes in the USA AFTER half jews start fights and then lose those same fights.
those half jews tell the police they were attacked for being a jew. jews abuse hate crimes laws all the time.
The096757 6 months ago
how much tolerance do jews have for muslims in places like libya and iraq? sarkozy is a jew and murdered tons of muslims and africans in libya. are muslims in europe so stupid as to think jews are their friends? . these "nazis" as the jew media in europe called them wanted to protest the wars jews start in places like iraq and libya? how is that a bad thing?
The096757 6 months ago
@The096757
lol you're fucking retarded, sarkozy is aiding the rebels in libya, he's helping the "muslims" not that the conflict should even be looked at in those terms. iraq also has nothing to do with jews.
you're fucking retarded, like its clearly stated across all news stations with the fuck do you get this drivel?
DeadTime34 6 months ago
@DeadTime34
you are one, stupid, fucked up, ugly ass, nigger queer. it was all jews like paul wolfowicz who caused mass murder in iraq. even muslims in europe have the brains to know jews are killing them in their home countries.wolfowicz, tommy franks,richard perle ect all JEW PIGS wanted the iraq war
you are a fucked up, ugly nigger freak who should be bashed on the street.
whites should work with europe's muslims to carry out attacks on jews and then part ways.
The096757 6 months ago
@The096757
lol you're fucking daft, what about bush, i guess he's jewish too, he wanted the war.
like christ man, do you see the gaping holes in your logic.
you're a scared little fucker who's to stupid and weak to stand up to the world's problems in any realistic way so you cling to the fascist bandwagon cause it makes whitey feel special even though he's just a violent fucked up child.
DeadTime34 6 months ago
@DeadTime34 He is a Neonazi!
Peristerygr 6 months ago
nazi punks fuck off
anaemiabag 7 months ago
die u fucking nazis!!!!
supadupafly04 7 months ago
im all about 1vs1 Anything beyond that gets NO respect from me..
lucius215 8 months ago
načo tam ten kokot anglický rozpráva...
appcrashko 8 months ago
nakopať do riti, prestreliť hlavu a opľuť !
XTINASK1 8 months ago
antifa = zrádci národa, táhněte do prdele, zmrdi!
NCSTpSyCHo88 8 months ago
@NCSTpSyCHo88 Ty seš zrádce národa táhni do reichu svině
maryjuan23 7 months ago
The anarchists fight in packs like savage dogs. They would be defeated one on one!
Killyaselfdie 8 months ago
@Killyaselfdie humans pack animals the neo nazi was in a pack but they pussied out because they're pussys
Pruanie2Foreverr 8 months ago
These radical "political movements" today are, in the central European context, nothing but a social club for angry adolescents - similar to "goth" or "punk" subcultures. There's no serious political agenda or manifestos reminiscent of their eponymous forebears from the 1910s, 20s & 30s.
musicalidea 8 months ago
@musicalidea, most accurate analysis here. But me I would look at it as just a symptom of the fact that everything whether it's right or left cultural or political has been appropriated by the powerful.
jimmythehyena 5 months ago
Fuck antifa, anarchists and leftist scum, you're a destroying Europe.
yuomia 8 months ago
@yuomia how...
warpenguin6 8 months ago
Anarchists what a bunch of red necks wast of space do you guys actually bread
coldunderice 8 months ago
@coldunderice
...what? do they bread? what?!?
anarcrustie 8 months ago
Both groups are fucking retarded, should've just let them kill each other.
chaosaxis 8 months ago
@chaosaxis Agreed. They both have very elementary, simplistic logic that just doesn't coincide with the way the world works today. They should just let them eat at eachother.
bigstabby 8 months ago
long live the anarchists!
go to hell neo-nazis!!!!!!!
PsyphaX09 8 months ago 36
@PsyphaX09 anarchists are stupid
sovietwarduck 7 months ago
@PsyphaX09 Neither group is worth SHIT. They are both trouble makers. Just b/c Nazis are worse doesn't make Anarchists suddenly good. They cause more trouble than solve.
LoveMokes 7 months ago
@LoveMokes
well at least they don't resort into killing innocent people..
PsyphaX09 7 months ago
Anarchy!!!
commonworm 9 months ago
Ⓐnarchists Ⓐre Ⓐssholes
Иazis are Иutjobs
64TbirdLandau 9 months ago
I wish i was there to throw in a good punch at those bald headed idiots.
KillerSaiyan 9 months ago 4
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GO NEO NAZIS!
SpazzyTheChicken 9 months ago
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@SpazzyTheChicken fuck you facist cunts!
AddictedToTheOi138 9 months ago
@SpazzyTheChicken I kill you
maryjuan23 7 months ago
@SpazzyTheChicken god people take things way to seriously. that was a joke!
SpazzyTheChicken 5 months ago
neo nazis got fucked .... deep and hard
deadmanavir 9 months ago 49
@deadmanavir LOL.
lesterdiamond5 8 months ago
@deadmanavir not deep or hard enough
silentfades 7 months ago
lol evryone hes own opinion ....
benolt123 9 months ago
the098757 go kill your self or better yet go to a concentration camp with all your nazi buddies and me and the anarchist will fire it up for you
MusicalllLoverrxx 9 months ago
viva la revolution
MusicalllLoverrxx 9 months ago
fuck everyone. it's the fault of the state that such shit happens
casperado666 9 months ago
Always ignorant Americans who make these comments. You don't live in Europe, you don't know what it is like. Immigration is destroying Europe. Millions of immigrants come here when there is no work. Most resorting to crime, destroying or culture and identity.
Europe for the Europeans.
yuomia 9 months ago
@yuomia
this is what captialism brought eastern europe. the jews in the west wanted eastern europe to be "free" meaning jews would be free. nothing will change until jews are executed in the streets.
anarchists are basically criminals and street trash who are not even wanted by jews and niggers. the jews and niggers want clean whites to infect with their diseases. anarchists are organized by jews.
The096757 9 months ago
@The096757 the people who call themselves anarchists are just someone's useful idiots. i bet noone of them read bakunin, kropotkin or makhno. i seriously can't imagine what those guys are fighting for.
casperado666 9 months ago
@The096757, *facepalm* OH how the stupid are totally unaware of their stupidity. Yeah, the reality is that there is no "Jewish" conspiracy idiot. I find it hilarious you have a HARD ON for the JEWS and ignore all the horrible things that the Christians and Mussies do. In fact, THEY are the ones that control the MOST things, not the Jews. The Jews are merely a SPEC compared to the Christians and Mussies. ON TOP OF THAT it is not even the JEW who is the problem but the Zionist.
NeCacaluXuxultic 9 months ago
@yuomia
if ghadhafi leave libya tons of africans will come to europe. the jews are the root of your problem. they completely own the media in the west and use that media to slaughter arabs and incite people against muslims.
The096757 7 months ago
nazi's? lol thought we got rid of them 50 something years ago. Now russian nazi's? looolll hitler tried to kill their parents probably lol
herculose 9 months ago
FUCK THE NEO-NAZIS
1960ClassicRocker 9 months ago
FUCK NEO NAZIS!!
lilhavanaboys 9 months ago
the reoprter is a bonehead:))
TheOffenderDeadlock 9 months ago
Why do anarchists and anti-fa cover their faces the cowards. They have no moral compass. Defeat fascism by destroying some shops and yelling fuck the police. Nah... they're just there to have a good time. Grow the fuck up both the Nazis and the Anti-fa...
Schredder222 9 months ago
@Schredder222 exactly
Wingchunskunk 9 months ago
@Schredder222
undercover white nazis have attended anarchist events in the usa and set them up to be arrested by the police for drug offenses.
the anachists are always attacking nazis but are never able to do anything to the corporations they CLAIM to hate. they are organized by jews to attack whites who don't want niggers in their countries. until whites start killing jews nothing will change for them. the lives of anarchist criminals and niggers have no value in any white country.
The096757 9 months ago
@The096757, First of all, it is not organized by the "Jews" it is organized by Ashkenazi ZIONISTS. SECOND OF ALL, MOST THINGS are controlled by CHRISTIANS so why don't you start attacking THEM!? You are ludicrous.
NeCacaluXuxultic 9 months ago
Extreme Right vs Extreme Left, this is the best political showdown!
Balencian 9 months ago
ANITFA
funkeemon 9 months ago
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Far more than half of the right extremists inside Germany are snitchers of German secret services.I guess that the NAZIs in the US with their help are being guided and supported by the German BND as well. The BND is actually the NAZI Gestapo under a new name.
These right wing troublemakers are very useful to divert from German human rights abuses in the past and today.My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years and was murdered on 11.7.09
wwwtotalitaerde 10 months ago
I would rather listen to the Czexh language which I do not understand, than the monotone bullshit from the Jew lover.... peace
jimmytulipp 10 months ago
Fascism is the peoples common enemy it is an ideology of hate.
4500jas 10 months ago
@mstruthserum. What parasites? Oh the Swastika on your forehead yeah that's a parasite. What is the goal of fascism, oh yeah nothing, just kill everyone who's different than you. I see why you are a Nazi. I hope you know that There are more Nazi terrorist attacks in the United states than Al-qada attacks it's true look it up on the homeland defense report, so tell me who the parasite is terrorist scum.
4500jas 10 months ago
anarchists = neo-zionists
concussedcarneous 10 months ago
I wish us Americans were more forceful towards Neo-Nazis in our country, Fuck all Nazis
4500jas 10 months ago
@4500jas I wish white Americans will wake up and be more forceful towards the parasites in control of the country. They can start by flushing this cockroach "4500jas" down the nearest toilet.
mstruthserum 10 months ago
Anarcho-Capitalism anyone?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Anarcho-Communism bro!
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 yeah, sorry but no, I don't intend to live without government only to become subject of judgement by my local community.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken excuse me?
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 In an anarcho communist society the "collective" rules all. What if I disagree with the mob? what if I want to actually KEEP the land that me & my fathers before me have worked to preserve, maintain & improve. What if I want to keep something I have always called my own? What if I think property rights are invaluable? what if I think that individuality is an extension of human development? I would become an enemy of the mob & that is something that will cost me my life & liberty.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken No. You don't comprehend the communist doctrine. Your liberty will be ultimate in that you won't be constrained by any monetary obstacles such as affordance, neither will your brothers or sisters.
Addressing the private property note, you will have full access to all that you need and want. Everything from housing; to transportation; to music, film and culture; to recreational substances if that's what you want.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 you seem to think there are unlimited resources in the world, there are only so many diamonds and gold bullions to go around. This is only fantasy.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken No. There are absolutely enough resources for everybody.
Today, the three richest men in the world have an estimated worth, equal or greater than the GDP of the 42 poorest countries in the world. You don't seem to see, just how unequally capital is distributed in a capitalist system.
The only reason why there is not enough food for the starving people of the 3rd world is because the 1st will only stay rich if they keep the others down. It's not a resource issue at all.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 do you really believe there to be 7,000,000,000 equal, running cars in the world? don't be silly, central planning allows the central planners to control the flow of resources. Control over the flow of resources is the whole reason why we're discussing Anarchy in the first place! No one, besides me, my family, my friends, and my customers will influence my life.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Central planning is done by a democratic vote. Favorably unanimous. And no I don't believe there to be 7,000,000,000 equal, running cars in the world. To be more specific, I don't expect there to be 1,000,000,000. Public transportation is superior. And maybe 700,000,000 rental cars. What central planning other than resource planning, transportation planning, school planning, architectural planning and food planning do you expect there to be. The starting premise is freedom.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 The ending premise is destitution, can you name a single central planning society which has grown more successful, more wealthy, and more mutually profitable then a free market society? When man does not need the government to decide his life and his wealth he is a truly free man. When we allow our neighbors, our community workers, our community council to decide our lives we are not free; we are at the mercy of the mob.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken How can destitution possibly be the premise when the whole point of the communist society is to uplift every member thereof. And how could you possibly claim that the free market is mutually profitable? Mutually profitable for ExxonMobil, Wal-Mart and Citigroup perhaps, not for regular people.
In a capitalist system it is the Landlords, the Employers and the Businessmen that make the calls, and are the only people which practice any freedom. Workers practice but surfdom.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken How can destitution possibly be the premise when the whole point of the communist society is to uplift every member thereof. And how could you possibly claim that the free market is mutually profitable? Mutually profitable for ExxonMobil, Wal-Mart and Citigroup perhaps, not for regular people.
In a capitalist system it is the Landlords, the Employers and the Businessmen that make the calls, and are the only people which practice any freedom. Workers practice but surfdom.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 I think you, like so many other Communists, confuse free market with Corporatism. Corporatism requires a state to protect and support corporations while a free market is directly OPPOSED to State control of ANYTHING.
This is what I hate about debating with communitarians, they have literally no history to support their argument, the only times throughout history where technology and human advancement occured was in societies where states and communes diminished and freedom prevailed.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Okay. Have you ever seen a free market society work better than a social democracy?
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 sure I can! I'm glad you asked! may I say the entire Industrial Revolution?
Now, may I ask you to name an invention that wasn't created by free hands? (besides weapons of war, holocaust devices and camps, slavery, propanganda, totalitarianism, holy wars, imperialism and natiionalism)
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Inventions can't be credited to the free hand of the market. The capitalist doctrine says that if there is a need, the need will automatically be filled(except the need for food and shelter of course). There was no inherent need for the loom, it was just effective. And culture, art and especially technology develop in good times when a majorities have food and shelter, not when they're starving.
All the things you mentioned are by the way all right wing movements/inventions.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 are you saying no communist countries have ever opressed? If you are then your not even logical enough to consider arguing with.
Food and shelter are adequate, in fact the only times in society where we see mass starvation is under a centralized government, whether accidental or intentional (Fascist Nations, Feudalist Europe, Czarist Russia, USSR, Maoist China, African Republics, North Korea, Cuba) Whens the last time you heard of Industrial America starving? Hong Kong? New Zealand?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken New Zeeland is one of the most socialized countries in the world. The US is a fascist state. Cuba has better, wider health care than the US. No communist countries have ever oppressed.
And I've already told you that I'm a communist so I don't understand why you're debating centralization, I don't like it either. But, Centralization can be both good or bad, it depends on who's running the central. Capitalism ALWAYS leaves people starving, And Centralizes capital to elites.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 New Zealand is 4th most economically free nation in the world, I said INDUSTRIAL America (pay attention!). Can you tell me why the Castro family, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong Il & Kim Il Sung had to violently murder just to maintain order? People do not oppose authority when life is full of splender.
Once again, your equating Capitalism with Corporatism and Elitism. In a Capitalist society everyone is taxed or not taxed equally & all have the opportunity to rise to the top.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 You still haven't given a single example of a starving Capitalist society, a society that has grown more successful and mutually raised the standard of living than a free market, or an invention of the collective.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken That's because you presented false claims I had to rebuke.
People in the US are starving, every third world country is starving, all around the western world people in the ghettoes are starving. Less people are poor in my native Sweden than in the US, we're less capitalistic society. Do you seriously mean that capitalism equally distributes wealth better than socialism. That is impossible. Capitalism = Survival of the fittest. Communism = Survival of everyone.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Then I must ask why the US gdp & ppp is higher then Sweden's. Now that you have "rebuked" my claims you can answer my damn questions & quit dodging them.
how many collective inventions have their been that was actually benificial to mankind?
how many have starved in a free market compared to any communist country?
how many free market countries have a lower standard of living then communist countries?
why does freedom of personal interest create more societal wealth then collective?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken 1. The invention of the collective. 3 billion gadgets won't stop 3 billion people from starving.
2. In planned economy, fascist states I'd say about 50 million. In OTHER unjust social systems, such as feudalism and capitalism X has died. They've been along for a too long time to estimate. There has never been a sovereign communist society.
3. Again, no communist countries.
4. What wealth IS, is decide by the bourgeoise, they control the £,$,€ etc., 4 is wholly incorrect.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1
1. when has a mass collective prevented starvation at ANY point throughout history? it makes it easier to create starvation. You name a Communist nation & there has been starvation.
2. Feudalism resides on central planning, Corporatism resides on central planning, pure Capitalism has existed in very few states throughout history (post 60's Hong Kong, Industrial Age America, Montenegro)
3. then there's no basis of evidence for you
4. wealth is an increase in the standard of living
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken 4. No????? Let's set up a hypothetical village with 100 people, and 1000 gold coins(G)(somewhat cliché). Wealth is when (G) is concentrated in to pockets so that some people have less than 10(G) each, and others have more than 10(G). That is wealth. Personal wealth can only be achieved when you have more than someone else.
Feudalism is centrally planned yes, capitalism too. They're both pyramid structured societal forms and appreciates some individuals more, and others less.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 *sigh*, I'm not saying that Capitalism distributes wealth better then Socialism, I'm saying that those who work the hardest deserve the most pay i.e. free market. Why would I go to college for 7 years to become a doctor only to earn what a high school (secondary school) dropout janitor earns. Because, for some reason, he deserves my money? why would I ever want to serve someone I don't know and who doesn't want to know me?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Communism/Socialism is theft of the rich by the poor, Corporatism is theft of the poor by the rich. Capitalism is a system where you keep what you earn and answer to no one other then whom you choose.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken You know I'm right. The one who holds capital, holds the world. If communism/socialism is theft by the poor from the rich as you call it, then sure. We live in a world where 9 year olds are forced into prostitution to put food on their families plates and you worry about personal wealth? Have you ever stopped and thought maybe you're not the centre of the universe? Corporatism is fucking capitalism. When you get lucky your company becomes a corporation, that starves children.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 ugh! once again! Corporatism requires a state to protect and support corporations, Capitalism requires lack of state control! Do you understand that your free to boycott any products provided by a corporation or entity you don't agree with? did you know your free to organize? did you know you may still have a commune WITHIN an anarcho capitalist society? did you know that you have a choice of products? did you know that child labor countries are centralized? *sigh* of course you don't
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken So if a cheap food company which has a 200 kilometer radius monopoly raise their prices and I can't afford to travel, what do I do? Die? Let's say they use child labour, if I boycott them I die, if I don't the children stay as slaves and starve. Before the 8 hour work day and the anti child labour laws Britain had a life expectancy of 17 for factory workers.
The government don't employ 7 year olds, uncontrolled corporations do.
Poor people don't have choice, you're too naive.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 you seem to assume Freedom of Market choices create monopolies, without a government to provide a way to a monopoly its impossible for one to form, theres always droves of business men and women who are looking for an untapped market or a potential monopoly they can break. Speaking of your hatred of monopolies, you seem not to aknowlege that government has a monopoly on force, taxes, courts and, by your system, your diet, relgion, education, culture and speech.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Corporate monopolies are bad but Government monopolies are benevolent? Seems to me to be a logic that private ownership of slaves is evil opposed to the politicians ownership of slaves is moral. Your idealogy is contradicting.
The people's interest should be in stripping their freedom of choice?
Corporate monopolies are proof that capitalism doesn't work but government monopolies prove that communism does?
Taking away individuality some how helps the whole?
this is just silly.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken I'm opposed to the state. My point was all monopolies are bad because they make it possible for the monopoly-holders to practice power over other people, i.e derogating their rights. In capitalism the strongest survive and the weakest don't, do you call that freedom of choice?
How is this about individuality?
Moral is subjective, how else could you not want basic human rights?
Communism and the State are by their very nature contradictory so that argument is simply dumb.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 I call that freedom because your success is determined by your willingness to work, unless you have a SERIOUS mental handicap (at which case there are several charities for you) you may still work. Case & point; Stephen Hawking. a state is the compulsory political institution of a centralized government that maintains a monopoly of the legitimate use of force within a certain territory
How is complete control over someones life NOT a state?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken How is communism control over your life? You have no bounds. And empathy will lead the way. Stephen Hawking is a shitty example, he has an IQ of 160 not every handicapped person has that, not every handicapped person gets to go to Harvard.
So what if you're handicapped but not eligible for charities. What if the charity monopoly holders just happen to dislike black people.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Charity Monopoly holder? now your just setting up fantasy situations. In a capitalistic system it is unprofitable to discriminate and capitalism is all about profit and innovation. why would a reject someone who will make my company a leader on the global market just becuase of his race/religion?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Let me set up an example of my very own; lets say the majority in your village wants to donate half of their crops to your neighboring village. You believe thats unfair considering how well your neihboring village is doing and how low your standard of living is. You decide to prevent your starvation but conserving crops for yourself and your family. The crops, through your blood and sweat, are now yours. Why should the mob be able to take your families livelihood away from you?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Why would you donate to the neighboring village if they were doing better than your own village? Doesn't make any sense. Stupid example.
And I have one single question. Do you think every human being has an equal right to life?
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 doesn't matter why, if the majority says its right (by your standards) its right. Yes I believe in the unalieble rights of Life, Liberty and Property. However I believe not everyone works as hard as everyone else, therefore I believe not everyone should get paid as much as everyone else. Our main difference is that I believe rights of the Individual AND the Government come from the people, where as you believe the rights of the Inidividual and government come from government.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken Did you take debating classes from Goebbels? Communism and government are contradictory.
And Life and Liberty are contradictory to Property. Why do you have this fetish for personal owning? You have the opportunity to live in a world where everyone has access to everything they need and want in superabundance, including yourself, and you're ready to give up all that for the right to private property? Doesn't that seem just slightly egomaniacal to you?
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 Once again, a state is the compulsory institution of a centralized organization that maintains a monopoly of the legitimate use of force within a certain territory. Therefore communism, is by very definition, staitism.
Property is an extension of natural rights. I own myself and the fruits of my labor, regardless of what your band of marauders have to say about it.
did you take your idea of property rights from Max Stirner?
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 It would seem egomaniacal if everyone caring and sharing and no one considering they're own needs were rational, however, unless everyone completely agrees with everyone on everything there will be a minority voice. When that happens coercion must be used in the "name of the people" to prevent dissunity or civil war. Once that has happened your beautiful system has degenerated into a slave state.
allwittynamestaken 10 months ago
@allwittynamestaken That's absurd. First of all there is no state so there aren't really anything to decide upon besides like road building, democratically. Most things will be run by machines(modern day technology) so almost no one would have to work. You have this fixed idea that there's some absolute Leviathan on top, but there isn't. And there probably won't be any guns factories either because no one will wan to hurt or kill anyone because they don't need to. Rich people start wars.
LiBlub1 10 months ago
@LiBlub1 "No one will want to hurt or kill anyone". of course they wouldn't.....of course they wouldn't.... I'm just happy you and your kind are in the minority.