This video feels satanic with the music and image about Satan, with the image. You teach a false doctrine of man, if you knew Christ you wouldn't need Calvin to explain it to you. Riding the back to the beast are those so called corporate churches, aligning with the builders. Yeshua is Lord.
@TheOringinalBRad Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
The core of Thelemic thought is "Do what thou wilt." Thelemites may practice more than one religion, including Discordianism, Wicca, Gnosticism, Satanism, Setianism and Luciferianism.
After speaking w/ Calvinists 1689Baptist, his maxum for God was "Something is ONLY moral BECAUSE God WILLS it to be moral." In other words, ABSOLUTE MORALS do NOT exist, but are subject to Gods WILL.
ONLY In Calvinism, SATAN could actually be, GOD HIMSELF.
I think Calvinism is satanic. In my 2 recent vids I deal with the satanic motto 'do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. I bounced this off of Calvinists who insist that this is the ONLY law God obeys and that God is not under obligation to the law of benevolence as it is imposed on him by his own reason, conscience and wisdom.
They are saying that God is a satanist, basically.
@tgillspy1 Yes the Gospel. The good news that we have a sin offering that will wash away our sins and be conformed to the image of the only begotten of the Father. We are saved by grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone. Ephesian 2
@tgillspy1 Calvin became politcal and so had to execute the law. David killed people, that doesn't detract that he was righteous in the eyes of God. God comdemns the wicked to hell. It is call justice.
@Surfxeo did David kill HERETICS? Calvin turned Geneva into a theocracy, declared a theocratic martial law, plundering homes and confiscating property. His Institutes was made the city charter.
The Bible doesn't say 'how lovely on the mountains are the feet of those who murder others by hiding behind others as an excuse. Slippery slope thinking. I am 'unloving' if I call a Calvinist a satanic hypocrite, but you are ready to justify and praise a murderer. TWISTED. PERVERSE.
@Surfxeo You cited Old Testament examples. How many people did Jesus or the Apostles have murdered? I suggest you stop reading Calvin who was just a MAN and a heretic and start reading the Bible.
You are not only a calvinist and a satanic hypocrite, but you are a LIAR.
"You don't even know what calvinism is or what they believe" I know MORE than you think.
Calvinism is excrement plain and simple. I'm not an Arminian nor do I care what they believe.
I have never read Calvin so I don't know what you mean. The example you sited was rediculous that I should stop reading Calvin as he was a MAN as you put it. So was Jacobus Arminius which I resume you are an "Arminian".
As Scripture says. We are justifiied by faith in Christ alone and we receive our faith by the Grace of God the Father who gave it to the elect. Christ died for me personally as it has been preordinaned before the earth was created
@fractalfires Is that all you have? Ad-homonen attacks?
Hitler was a dictator and ordered murders of innocents. Why don't you educate yourself by looking up what a murder is. Calvin went out of his way to save heretics. They were given a lot of chances.
Can you not refute that we are justified by Grace by faith in Christ alone, and not of works. Lest any man should boast???
@Surfxeo LOL, I was wondering when you would play the 'ad hominem' card.
Predicatability and ignorance are bliss.
And throw in the 'you are denying justification by grace by faith alone' card too.
"Calvin went out of his way to save heretics. They were given a lot of chances" before he cut their heads off, appropriated their property or burnt them at stakes.
You're funny! Ad hominems are bad, but public executions are doing 'God's work'. How lovely on the mountains are the jack boots...
@fractalfires You must get the ad-homonen card all the time. You must have a full deck by now.
If you believe in the free will of man to reject the power of the Holy Spirit then you will not be able to be consistent in accepting that we are saved by Grace alone.
@Surfxeo you poor deluded person who thinks that everyone thinks like you do. Now you play the false dilemma/dichotomy card. The Bible writers and the apostolic fathers had no problem affirming both free will and salvation by grace through faith.
The Gnostics had problem with it, like you do. They continually moaned against free will.
You're just another damned Gnostic like Marcion and Celsus. I urge you to completely renounce everything connected with John Calvin and start over with JESUS
@fractalfires But Grace is the gift of the Father to those who are redeemed by the blood of Christ. God is not someone who looks down the corridors of time and see what we will do. God is someone who is soveriegn over events in history and what happens in it.
We cannot believe in Christ without first receiving Grace so thatwe can believe through faith. We do nothing in ourselves to receive this grace. It is all of God as he had ordered it before the world existed.
@Surfxeo No, it is NOT. God's grace has appeared to all mankind. Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."
God has set before you 2 paths. There's a path leading to life & another leading to death.
God's grace is making 2 path available despite the fact that as sinners we DESERVE eternal torment.
God gave the law and the gospel and the Holy Spirit and built conscience into us. We've no excuse.
@fractalfires Luke 2:10 does not say anything about 2 paths. It is only proclaiming the gospel that the Savior has come into the world.
In Scripture there are 2 kinds of grace that have different purposes in mind. One saves a person to eternal life (Saving grace) and another that orders the world for Gods purposes. Such as God hardening Pharaohs heart to that the world would see the works of God.
@Surfxeo I was not quoting Luke to show there are two paths. I quoted it to show that the good news was for all men. That is explicitly stated in the passage. The Jewish and Ante-Nicene view that God has given two ways is evident also from Deut 30:19 Jer 21:8 and 7 other times in the Bible. There is an ante-Nicene document called The Two Ways which calls this to mind. Well, maybe not yours since it is closed like a an iron safe. As to your 'two types' of grace? You are a bonehead.
@fractalfires Yes there are two different kinds of grace in Scripture. Here are two examples from the Bible.
Before Moses went into Egypt to God said to Moses that He will harden Pharaohs heart so to show His wonders and His majesty Exodus 4:21. Then in Exodus 7:13 we read God hardening Pharaohs heart.
What man means for evil God means for good. It was Gods will for Josephs brothers to sell him into Egypt to save many people alive. Genesis 50:20
Choose between death or life. Yes I have read that and when you read later we find out they cannot choose life by themselves but they need Gods grace to convert and save. Hense why we need Christ because man is unable to accomlish this on his own.
I suggest you read from Genesis all the way to Revelation and it will give you a thorough background to the faith. By Gods grace you will come to know the Gospel.
You should be more Christian in your responses if your a true disciple
@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
@Surfxeo "Hitler was a dictator and ordered murders of innocents. " Hitler didn't kill anyone, he got others to do it, just like your tin god does. He decrees child rape and murder in every detail to 'glorify his justice'.
If you say he didn't decree it, then that is denying Calvin's idea of God's 'sovereignty'.
Show me from the Institutes otherwise. Come on smart guy Back up your filthy big blasphemous mouth with some quotes instead of straw men and ad hominems. SNAKE
@fractalfires But with your ideology that has no purpose to Gods plan and God could not do anything. You make God out to be weak to mans will.
However this is not what Scripture teaches. God restrains the evil of men all the time, which if he didn't then the earth would be hell. However, for every evil God has a purpose and he will judge all evil and wickedness of man.
@Surfxeo My theology is not the issue. The issue is whether your theology lines up with Ante-Nicene Orthodoxy regarding the question of free will. And I have shown already that it doesn't.
Origen in fact refuted the Gnostics who claimed that Romans 8 and 9 did not teach free will.
@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
@Surfxeo I'm not concerned with the special cases of the Old Testament economy, please show me where Jesus or one of the Apostles ordered heretics killed. Any of the Ante-Nicene writers?
You are a hell-bound lying snake. That's EXACTLY what you are. You're a son of the devil.
You should stop reading Calvin's works and read the Bible or the ante-Nicene views on free will.
To hell with Calvinism and its various brands. It's all gnosticism. Google it.
'And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which He hath given me I should loose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believe on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.'
@Surfxeo "I have read ante-Nicene writers. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon. They all believed in the elect." The fathers defended FREE WILL. I believe in the ELECT too. Its in the Bible. But the HERESY that each person who joins the elect was ALREADY elect before that person was born is not taught by God. Save your prooftexts. I've been answering the same ones for years now. The idea of predestination of lost persons to salvation is not biblical.
@fractalfires Ah, you have commited the Arminian falacy that Calvinism teaches double pre-destination.. the idea of predestination to the lost.
Cavinism teaches that ALL are lost and are worthy of the wrath of God. That all are dead in trespasses and sins. There is no need to predestine those that are already dead.
No, Calvinism teaches that the elect are predestined by the Father to eternal life but the lost are left to recieve their just reward.
@Surfxeo you are talking about YOUR brand of Calvinism. I deal with Calvinists and even CAlvin himself taught that reprobation occurs when election does.
You are straw manning me, claiming I am an Arminian when I hold to Early Church Orthodoxy, you are also straw manning others in the majority who claim to be Calvinists.
@Surfxeo "Its not early church orthodoxy you hold to, but Arminianism.
There is only one brand of Calvinism."
So you reject early church orthodoxy! I can cite at least 14 Ante-Nicene fathers to refute you. Origen reclaimed verses from the gnostics who were citing them to prove free will is not involved in either sin or conversion.
You are a bonehead and a liar. A smug liar. You combine arminian and calvinism in one vile pile of excrement
@Surfxeo wonderful passages. Ironic when quoted by a false prophet who produces bad fruit and makes God the author of all the sin, crime and wickedness in the world.
Don't bother with the 'straw man' card. I know Calvinism better than you.
@fractalfires I'm not a prophet. There are no more prophets from Revelation onwards. I doubt you know Calvinism as I doubt you have ever read any calvinistic material. You are only quoting other people biases against him.
I dount you have ever read any of Calvins book or even calvinistic preachers like Bunyan, Spureon etc
@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
@Surfxeo "Its not early church orthodoxy you hold to, but Arminianism.
There is only one brand of Calvinism."
The issue is your rejection of Ante-Nicene Church orthodoxy. Calvinism is gnosticism. Please show me one father claiming that free will is heresy. Please show me where the gnostics tried supporting free will with Scripture. There is only one brand of Calvinism. It is Platonic dualism/fatalism.
" Calvinism teaches that the elect are predestined by the Father to eternal life but the lost are left to recieve their just reward." Calvinism teaches that the damnation of person's is settled long before they were born. They are not damned because of their sin, but because of predestination. Calvinism simply CALLS this justice.
Calvinism denies justice altogether. It teaches lawlessness and hate. You're a blasphemer
@fractalfires They are not predestined to be damned but are already under Gods wrath, we are all under Gods wrath because of original sin.
Gods justice is exercised by God punishing the guilty, Gods mercy is shown by God forgiving the guilty. God has to punish the guilty for him to be just which is why Christ died in the place of sinners to satisfy divine justice.
@Surfxeo Not according to professing Calvinists I recently addressed in a two-part video. They said that God can do whatever he wants and it would still be just.
That includes if he passed new laws on us to make marriage sin and idolatry virtue. It includes God committing idolatry if he so chose. I don't know what brand of Calvinism you are talking about but you sure disagree with CBALLEN, blogrich55 and 1689Baptist and NB3K, etc.
You throw everything in there and the kitchen sink, lol
@fractalfires I live in a Calvinistic country so I know what is Calvinism. We have had it from the time of the reformation so I know what I am talking about.
Sin is any any breaking of Gods law and as God is supreme he cannot sin since all sin is against him. Remember Jesus forgave the sin that others had done to other people, but in reality all sin is against God himself.
@Surfxeo "I live in a Calvinistic country so I know what is Calvinism." You don't know shaving cream from shineola. The only thing you know what you are talking about is LYING.
You think God is a puppeteer and use couched terms to express it.
Calvinism is doublepredestination any way you slice it as I have shown. You're such a bonehead you don't even realize it. Can't you keep up? I'm sick of reminding you.
@Surfxeo "If you are a Christian then please use more appropriate language."
Okay, you whitewashed tomb, hypocrite, son of perdition viper, accuser of the brethren, spot in the lovefeast, dog returning to its vomit, not even good for the compost heap but needs to be thrown out, one who will get vomited out of God's mouth.
Scripture only ever speaks of the ELECT as a group, not as specific individuals being predestined to become Christians. Just as Israel was God's elect. What a bonehead
@fractalfires And who is Israel but Gods elect whether Jew or Gentile, they are one in Christ. And who are the elect but those who Christ died for who have been Chosen by the Father before the foundation of the word.
For as many as are LED by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
You who live by the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption.
@fractalfires To be sent to hell you do not need to do anything as all sinners deserve the justice of God, however to be saved you require Gods grace and turn a rebel sinner who hates God, is dead and trespasses and sinners to be born again and have their sins taken away by the blood of Christ. As the word of God clearly teaches only the Elect have been predestined from eternity. This is what Calvinism teaches and not predestination. We get to define what we teach, not you!
@fractalfires What is makes is you not understanding context and plain english. Only the Elect are predestined for salvation, the rest are lest in their sins.
You need saving grace from God the Father before you are an adopted son of God, you do not need to do anything to be cast into hell. All sinners deserve Gods wrath & curse. This is what the Gospel is.
Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected.
@Surfxeo"Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scripture daily, whether those things were so"
Reading is one of the sacriments we are to hold if we are to be blessed and increase in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who died not for the world but to those that the Father gave to Christ.
@tgillspy1 assuming that what you mean by "heresy" is any doctrine that denies the fundamental teachings of Christianity, what essential teaching of Christianity makes Calvinism "damnable"?
Disclaimer: I am NOT an arminian, and do NOT believe in" lose your salvation" etc. Yes, ALL name it and claim it is an abomination and from satan but CALVINISM is JUST as satanic, blasphemous, anti-Christ, God hating, Trinity despising, Bible contradicting and scipture denying as name it and claim it!
I think she (and Dan Corner, and Ergun Caner, and others like them who are downright nasty to the reformed group) is pretty much one of the reasons why I affirm the doctrines of grace. No exegesis, no desire to look at context, no desire to faithfully represent the other side, no desire to look at Greek and Hebrew, no desire to engage in dialogue, just wanting to attract the audience to a monologue to tell them why they need to stay away from those nasty old Calvinists.
excellent video brother, I was an pure athiest, not the half wit sheeple that call themselves athiest, if calvinism wasn't the truth, you nor I would be saved, not only that, after I was saved, I spent the next ten years, searching all religions and cults, still he was transforming me, after 26 years I found out about calvinism, the world has kept it from me, because armenianism is the work of satan
Lol,Arminians believe as the Romans Catholics do,they just don't have all the rituals .Most don't realize that almost ALL PROTESTANTS WERE REFORMED AFTER THE REFORMATION.Arminianism is the new religion that's only been taught in America for the last 150 years,and now is dominant because of people's itchy ears,they want a god they can control and manipulate,one they can give the finger to and then if THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE,they believe God is obligated to come and save them at their pleasure.
Sorry but God isn't a pussy, love wasn't what flung lucifer to the earth and made the earth without form and void and sealed it up from light. The God of the bible is a holy God.
lol I think I'm a calvanist and I didn't even know it. I think people just have a problem with understanding God has a holy wrath and justice and without it he cannot be love without wrath and justice he cannot be a holy God.
i would also go on to say that Yes Jesus loves... THAT is true... but it can't be this one sided deal... there HAS to be a equal emphasis upon wrath... and in His wrath, we see His love... through the person and work of Christ...
the doctrines of grace is of the bible, those whos refute calvinisim go study your bible, stop being led away,by you can lose your salvation arminism type doctrine, that is not biblical, ill tell you what is of satan ,apostolic oneness pentecostalism, that is from the pit of hell
i would even go so far as to say that Arminian theology quite frankly can be the beginning of today's radical secular humanism...
Jacobus' counter-point if that can be said is this, "Man has some measure of goodness in him that allowed him to choose Christ." But that is anti-thetical TO THE BIBLE!!!!!!
So to all of you who say Calvinism is satanism... give me BOOK, CHAPTER, AND VERSE, where man has some goodness in him... again... BOOK... CHAPTER... AND VERSE... PLEASE!!!!????
You want to know why people find calvinism so offensive ? Because it twists and distorts the nature and character of God. You would also be offended if someone would be telling lies about your father or mother. Please pray to God about your calvinism. He will show you the truth.
I noticed that her account is now closed. We can only pray that God would open the eyes of this lady (tiredofhype09) and others who share her slanderous and unwarranted views against the Doctrines of Grace.
You are a great speaker and even better, a great teacher. My mother was Calvinist and came from Hungary where it was a very big thing. I went to a Hungarian Protestant Reformed Church when I was little but have to say, I still don't know what being a Calvinist means. Can you tell me?
Whoa! God is not just a God of love, HE IS LOVE. 1 John 4:8. Now, tell me where in the Bible does it say that God is wrath? I've be dying for a Calvinist to tell me where it is. It doesn't exist. And for that fact, there's more to the book of Romans than just chapter 1:18-32. It keeps going on!
but to Receive The Salvation of Grace A Person must Repent & Believe The Gospel. What I mean by Repentance Is You must Oath that God Jesus alone Is Righteous No other but also If Someone never Hear The Gospel God Jesus Knows If They would Believe & Save Them & If They are The Children of God Jesus They will Believe therefore God will lose None.
I will try again I used to be A Calvinist one of the reasons was because I could see the corruption In main stream Churches of how They supported the Illuminati government so I figured They must have Not been chosen by God but there are the children of satan the devil that are totally evil but The Children of God Jesus has some evil In Us too. Romans chapter 9 Is a before & after before God would have chose a Few to be Saved, After Jesus Sacrifice Now Everyone Is Legally allowed to be Saved--
I agree with you! most people want to look like dog puke in Gods eyes...people that think Gods not mad, read the bible for yourself stop letting people read for you!
Your video is very true Mark. [For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay", says the Lord. and again, "the LORD will judge His people". It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.]- Hebrews 10:30,31 [For our God is a consuming fire.]- Hebrews 12:29
This is a fablous video!!! It is high time people start setting the record straight in regards to the attempted demonization of 'unconditional election'. We have proof but they refuse to listen to the truth about anything. It reminds me how Jesus was accused of have a demon!!!!!! Finally, the real satanists are being exposed for lying about Calvinism and Unconditional Election. They are sinning against the Spirit by calling the TRUTH a lie!!!
I dont need to see these articles because I have studied much on the subject and I have came to the truth of the scriptures. I pray you will not call biblical fact heresy in the future. God Bless
Oh,don't be ridiculous. It's so simple a child could understand. Psalm 103:19
The LORD has established his throne in heaven, and his kingdom rules over all.
There you have it. God is Sovereign. HIs throne is established in Heaven. His kingdom rules over all. All leaves out nothing. What is man?? If a man who is nothing things himself to be something, he deceives himself. No throne is exalted over God's whereby God fails to rule over man. Your anger is towards God and His throne.
TiredofHype09 has stated that Christianity is a white man's religion - white people are devils. She says that the black man is God. She worships the black man as God. She's called all black men and women out of Christian churches. She states Malcolm X, a Muslim, was a true prophet. So, that's where this woman was coming from. I am seeing more and more that those who vehemently oppose the sound doctrines of God's Sovereignty are, most likely, unsaved ppl and that's why they are so carnal.
CT, You can see this on her tapes. Also, simone56 (sp??) has done a tape on this TiredofHype09's recent vids. I was really debating with TiredofHype09 (and one other "arminiast" on a tape by simone56). simone56's vid stated that the doctrines of God's Sovereignty are correct. I felt in my heart after debating for a period, the Lord had me to not further discuss. You know, when reprobates are exposed to truth and resist, they can blaspheme the Spirit. Sincerely, it appears this woman has.
The rapture of believers is to take place AFTER the tribulation at the return of Christ. The 144,000 is not a literal number because we are told:
Revelation 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which NO MAN COULD NUMBER, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
The ELECT cannot be NUMBERED by any man. Obviously 144,000 is a number which can be comprehended by men.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the ELECTS SAKE those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very ELECT
4) Paul wrote letters to the Ancient Greeks in Thessolonika reminding them of their "ELECTION FROM GOD":
1 Thessalonians 1:4
Knowing, brethren beloved, your ELECTION of God.
The Ancient Greeks were about as Gentile as they get. The non-Christian Greeks were some of the worst Polytheists.
Dont you see that you are under a gross misconception about God's Elect?? And then you have the chuzpa to say that its biblical? No sir - you are very far from the "Biblical view" of the Elect.
Put on therefore, as the ELECT OF GOD, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Paul refers to gentile converts as the Elect because God's Elect are individual people out of Jews and Gentiles. Gods Elect are not simply outward Jews or limited to Jewish Converts to Christ. You have a misunderstanding of God's Elect.
2) Titus was NOT a Jewish convert. He was an uncircumcised Gentile convert and the scriptures describe him as one of the ELECT:
Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Sorry again - you are refuted. God's ELECT refer to BOTH Jews and Gentiles, not limited to Jewish converts as you assume.
Paul the Apostle was a Jew sent out to preach the gospel to gentiles (especially)as well as Jews. Paul himself stated that the very reason for all of his tribulations was to REACH THE ELECT:
And when the GENTILES heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and AS MANY AS WERE ORDAINED TO ETERNAL LIFE BELIEVED
The scriptures are clear that God's Elect (those whom God unconditionally chose/ordained for salvation before the foundation of the World) are of both Jews and Gentiles!
Incorrect - The "ELECT" are not the outward Jews-Romans9:27. The Elect are those whom God chose unconditionally before the foundation of the world to become saved in Christ of both Jews and Gentiles:
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had AFORE PREPARED unto glory, 24Even us, whom he hath called, NOT THE JEWS ONLY but also of the Gentiles?
A video misinterpreting the word "World" in John3:16 is Not needed. We know it refers to ALL those whom the father Gave Jesus to save out tof the World:
Correction - The Calvinist view is the most faithful, consistant expression of the SOUND scriptural teaching on God's Love. This idea that God has
a universal redemptive love for all humanity is not biblical; but a belief after the fleshly wisdom of the world. God's love is demonstrated in that every sinner deserves the fate of Sodom/Gemmorah and the Lake of Fire. Yet God unconditionaly chose to save a people for himself just as he chose to save Noah and his family from the Great flood.
Idle minds of the weak, continuing to spread the god disease. I've done master's bidding, summoning Lucifer from the Earth. Ending their plight, ending their faith. Ending their lies, ending their fantasies. Go away son of god, stay buried in your grave. You were weak, you were a liar. Move forward and appear, lord Lucifer. All of us now await for thee. I worship in Lucifer's name, embrace the darkness. Wildness burns deep inside of me. It destroys the ignorance of christianity.
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
God is the sovereign Potter over all of his own creation, he is not answerable to anyone or anything and we have no right to question it (Romans 9:14-22)
You asked: "has all of Israel been saved and gone to heaven then or should we look into a different meaning of this term? (I'll give you a hint, it's the latter, not the former)"
Your misidentifying who "redemptive Israel" is. God's Elect people are his "spiritual Israel" made up of Jews and Gentile whom he unconditionally elected, predestinated for salvation before the foundation of the world. Corporate Israel is NOT saved otherwise all of Modern day Jews would believe on Jesus as the Christ.
2) You said: It's funny that a calvinist says that term always means those who God ordained for salvation
God Elect (spiritual Israel) are made up of Jews and Gentiles whom God unconditionally elected and predestinated (AFORE PREPARED) for salvation before the foundation of the World:
You said: "The tares would be a good representation of the reformers in Christianity. Im making a vid about this"
No - a "good representation" would be those Jews who rejected Jesus and tried to murder him:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning...
The Reformers accepted, loved and worshipped Jesus and were used of God to rediscover the truth of the Christian faith based on the 5 Solas and Sovereign Grace.
Election is NOT based anything Forseen in the sinner, It is based on Divine sovereignty:
2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US in Christ Jesus before the world began
NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US
NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US
4) The Context of Matt13:37 is pretty straightforward. Jesus describes the difference between the truly saved (Gods people) and the Christian imitators (Devils people)
A) God himself planted the GOOD SEED of his people: 37He answered and said.. He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
B The Devil planted the seed of his own people: 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil
In either case - the seeds were already predetermined and sovereignly planted to be either Wheat or Tares.
And as many as WERE ORDAINED to eternal life believed
2 Cor13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
1) Rom11:14 = "If by any means" is the "outward presentation" of the gospel to different people in different ways (1Cor.9:22confirms this). It will only effectutate in those who receive the Inward Call
"I might save some" = These are the Elect as we read in verses 5-7
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the ELECTION of grace
7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
4) Faith starts and ends with the giver of Faith. God plants the seed, God waters the seed and God grows the seed. At no time is man required to "demonstrate" a mustard seed outside of Grace. The Parable of the sower confirms that God is the sower of the seed:
3) You said: If faith is given, then you cannot call it faith. How could your faith ever be tested?
Salvation is not some Test. We cannot EARN salvation by passing some exam. If I am required to pass a test in school - then I earned my Grade because I studied. ALL the work was on me and it shows in my results. But That's NOT the gospel. Faith is a complete reliance on the FINISHED WORK of Christ. This faith comes only as a result of Sovereign Grace. !
2) Faith is a "Means" by which God proves to us that we are his people. God unconditionally grants this faith as a gift to the Elect and Paul exorts people to "TEST THEMSELVES" whether they be in that Faith, unless they are deceived.
2Peter1:10 teaches same - self examination for the "manifestation" of Faith:
2Cor13:5
Examine yourselves whether ye be IN the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1) You said that there is "nothing easy about salvation". If by this statement you mean that man must "WORK" for salvation - you are Incorrect, Christ did ALL the work on the cross. You cannot add, perfect , change or thwart that Work in any way shape or form. He did it ALL. Your confusing the "manifestations" of Salvation in the lives of God's people with "Conditions". The very "desire" for Faith, Repentance and works are all gifts of regeneration which come of Grace alone.
Behold, happy is the man whom God CORRECTETH: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
The actions are clearly God's. If he does Not correct, it won't happen. God may use people for this correction (James5) and we cannot take credit for that which the he is using us to do.
1) James5:19-20 = This passage is a demonstration of God's use of believers as his "instruments" to correct his people from the errors (perhaps theological) brought on by their Flesh. It is ALL a product of God's grace alone as we are but the instruments in his hands to be used as he wills, including for the Preservation of his people. Throughout the scriptures God uses people for the means of accomplishing his ends. Does this mean we can take credit? No. We need to humbly give God the Glory.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be PRESERVED blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
FAITHFUL IS HE that calleth you, who also WILL do it.
2 Thes3:3
"But the Lord is FAITHFUL, and He WILL strengthen and protect you from the evil one.
1) No - God does not base Perserverence on the conditional faith of people - but on his OWN faithfulness. Faith is a Gift that is unconditionally GIVEN to God's people and used to sustain them:
1) Incorrect. The Lord did not stand by Paul because of any "condition". Nowhere in the chapter do we see your presumption of "Therefore because of his Faith".
16At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge. 17Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
I wouldn't consider myself a to be hard-core 5-pointer; however, at this point in my growth/walk with the Lord, I have been leaning more towards Reformed theology than any other doctrine. When I see people accusing Calvinists in this way, I doubt that it comes from a place of hatred or vitriol, but rather, I think it comes more from a place of ignorance. I think if people really understood it better, they would seriously hesitate in making such false statements and outright slander.
Prior to educating myself on Calvinism, I also thought the tenets were ludicrous. I never thought it was "evil," but it just didn't make sense or seem fair. As I get deeper in my faith and examine the exegetical writings of Reformed theologians with what SCRIPTURE ITSELF actually says, the more I think "Wow! This is really what it all means!" I can finally understand the Sovereignty of God! And, contrary to what tiredofhype09 says, it's the LEAST "prideful" doctrines imaginable! :)
You accuse other people of being "blind" - but you don't realize that what your doing is robbing God of his sovereign Glory and giving it to the Flesh of man.
Stop defending man, and start Defending God. Forget that false "freewill" man gospel of the World and turn to the true sound doctrine of the Bible as expressed in Calvinism!
2) Its God's Sovereign Grace that will PRESERVE his elect through the perserverence of Faith. This is the evidence that one is saved, which is why Paul exhorts believers to "Examine YOURSELF" lest ye be a reprobate (2Cor13:5)
The "Crown" is a consequence of God's planned Perserverence of his people and is an INHERITANCE: 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will
Seems you answered your own question in your comment. In the OT, the people chosen by God, had the Holy Spirit, come upon them. HE did not dwell with them. Which explains why, they continually fell from grace. NT believers, have the Holy Spirit indwelt. At least that is my take on it.
But the definitions of the Words are not relevant when not viewed in their appropriate context. That's like saying that the word "World" in Luke 2:1 means the whole wide Universaliatic World:
Luke 2:1
And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
If I iolated the word "World" from its context - I would never know that the word is referring to only a segment of the world - in this case the Roman empire.
The Words themsleves are defined by the context in which they are in - which you refuse to see. If people take "words" at face value without a thourogh examiniation of the scriptures, they will surely be led to some erroneous conclusion such as the idea that a Born Again "regenerated "believer can lose his salvation or become "un-bornagain". God sent Saul an "EVil Spirit" to torment him - this does not occur to born again, regenerated believers. It occurs to the unsaved.
Well done. You said correctly that God does not try, but that God does in regards to Salvation. Keep up the good work.
Calvinism101 3 weeks ago
This video feels satanic with the music and image about Satan, with the image. You teach a false doctrine of man, if you knew Christ you wouldn't need Calvin to explain it to you. Riding the back to the beast are those so called corporate churches, aligning with the builders. Yeshua is Lord.
TheOringinalBRad 4 months ago
@TheOringinalBRad Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
enslaved2God 4 months ago
@Fractalfires. Of course Calvinism teaches Double Predestination!
Rom 9:11
though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue..."
Romans 9:21
Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?
Calvinist use these verses to push God PREDESTINATING His ELECT for Glory-- yet somehow he doesn't Predestined others for HELL...
What fools!
apollos6640 5 months ago
@fractalfires "is Calvinism Satanism"?
The core of Thelemic thought is "Do what thou wilt." Thelemites may practice more than one religion, including Discordianism, Wicca, Gnosticism, Satanism, Setianism and Luciferianism.
After speaking w/ Calvinists 1689Baptist, his maxum for God was "Something is ONLY moral BECAUSE God WILLS it to be moral." In other words, ABSOLUTE MORALS do NOT exist, but are subject to Gods WILL.
ONLY In Calvinism, SATAN could actually be, GOD HIMSELF.
apollos6640 5 months ago
@apollos6640 In Calvinism God is the lawless one.
fractalfires 5 months ago
I think Calvinism is satanic. In my 2 recent vids I deal with the satanic motto 'do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. I bounced this off of Calvinists who insist that this is the ONLY law God obeys and that God is not under obligation to the law of benevolence as it is imposed on him by his own reason, conscience and wisdom.
They are saying that God is a satanist, basically.
fractalfires 5 months ago
No, calvinism is not satanism. It is, however, a truly illogical and nonsensical theology.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 7 months ago
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TennesseeOwnsMyBones 7 months ago
@tgillspy1 Yes the Gospel. The good news that we have a sin offering that will wash away our sins and be conformed to the image of the only begotten of the Father. We are saved by grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone. Ephesian 2
Surfxeo 9 months ago
@tgillspy1 That is not true. Calvinism as you call it is what the scriptures teach. The just shall live by faith.
"Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee" Psalm 65:4
"For to whom he did FOREKNOW, he also did PREDESTINATE to be confirmed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn amoung many brethren.
Moreover whom he did PREDESTINATE, them he also CALLED: and whom he called, them he also JUSTIFIED: and whom he JUSTIFIED, them he also GLORIFIED".
Surfxeo 9 months ago
@tgillspy1 Calvin became politcal and so had to execute the law. David killed people, that doesn't detract that he was righteous in the eyes of God. God comdemns the wicked to hell. It is call justice.
Surfxeo 9 months ago
@Surfxeo did David kill HERETICS? Calvin turned Geneva into a theocracy, declared a theocratic martial law, plundering homes and confiscating property. His Institutes was made the city charter.
The Bible doesn't say 'how lovely on the mountains are the feet of those who murder others by hiding behind others as an excuse. Slippery slope thinking. I am 'unloving' if I call a Calvinist a satanic hypocrite, but you are ready to justify and praise a murderer. TWISTED. PERVERSE.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Moses executed heretics as did Elijah. What's wrong with a theocracy? God rules not man.
I suggest you actually read what John Calvin did instead of listening to others to what he supposably did or did not do. I sense some biase.
I'd call you a liar if you called a calvinist a satanic hypocrite.
You don't even know what calvinism is or what they believe. Calvinism is God centred theology, Armimianism is man centred theology.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo You cited Old Testament examples. How many people did Jesus or the Apostles have murdered? I suggest you stop reading Calvin who was just a MAN and a heretic and start reading the Bible.
You are not only a calvinist and a satanic hypocrite, but you are a LIAR.
"You don't even know what calvinism is or what they believe" I know MORE than you think.
Calvinism is excrement plain and simple. I'm not an Arminian nor do I care what they believe.
I'm ANTE-NICENE in theology. Liar
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Calvin did not murder anyone lol.
I have never read Calvin so I don't know what you mean. The example you sited was rediculous that I should stop reading Calvin as he was a MAN as you put it. So was Jacobus Arminius which I resume you are an "Arminian".
As Scripture says. We are justifiied by faith in Christ alone and we receive our faith by the Grace of God the Father who gave it to the elect. Christ died for me personally as it has been preordinaned before the earth was created
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Calvin did not murder anyone lol."
Neither did Hitler.
Ignorance is bliss
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Is that all you have? Ad-homonen attacks?
Hitler was a dictator and ordered murders of innocents. Why don't you educate yourself by looking up what a murder is. Calvin went out of his way to save heretics. They were given a lot of chances.
Can you not refute that we are justified by Grace by faith in Christ alone, and not of works. Lest any man should boast???
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo LOL, I was wondering when you would play the 'ad hominem' card.
Predicatability and ignorance are bliss.
And throw in the 'you are denying justification by grace by faith alone' card too.
"Calvin went out of his way to save heretics. They were given a lot of chances" before he cut their heads off, appropriated their property or burnt them at stakes.
You're funny! Ad hominems are bad, but public executions are doing 'God's work'. How lovely on the mountains are the jack boots...
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires You must get the ad-homonen card all the time. You must have a full deck by now.
If you believe in the free will of man to reject the power of the Holy Spirit then you will not be able to be consistent in accepting that we are saved by Grace alone.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo you poor deluded person who thinks that everyone thinks like you do. Now you play the false dilemma/dichotomy card. The Bible writers and the apostolic fathers had no problem affirming both free will and salvation by grace through faith.
The Gnostics had problem with it, like you do. They continually moaned against free will.
You're just another damned Gnostic like Marcion and Celsus. I urge you to completely renounce everything connected with John Calvin and start over with JESUS
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires But Grace is the gift of the Father to those who are redeemed by the blood of Christ. God is not someone who looks down the corridors of time and see what we will do. God is someone who is soveriegn over events in history and what happens in it.
We cannot believe in Christ without first receiving Grace so thatwe can believe through faith. We do nothing in ourselves to receive this grace. It is all of God as he had ordered it before the world existed.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo No, it is NOT. God's grace has appeared to all mankind. Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."
God has set before you 2 paths. There's a path leading to life & another leading to death.
God's grace is making 2 path available despite the fact that as sinners we DESERVE eternal torment.
God gave the law and the gospel and the Holy Spirit and built conscience into us. We've no excuse.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Luke 2:10 does not say anything about 2 paths. It is only proclaiming the gospel that the Savior has come into the world.
In Scripture there are 2 kinds of grace that have different purposes in mind. One saves a person to eternal life (Saving grace) and another that orders the world for Gods purposes. Such as God hardening Pharaohs heart to that the world would see the works of God.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo I was not quoting Luke to show there are two paths. I quoted it to show that the good news was for all men. That is explicitly stated in the passage. The Jewish and Ante-Nicene view that God has given two ways is evident also from Deut 30:19 Jer 21:8 and 7 other times in the Bible. There is an ante-Nicene document called The Two Ways which calls this to mind. Well, maybe not yours since it is closed like a an iron safe. As to your 'two types' of grace? You are a bonehead.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Yes there are two different kinds of grace in Scripture. Here are two examples from the Bible.
Before Moses went into Egypt to God said to Moses that He will harden Pharaohs heart so to show His wonders and His majesty Exodus 4:21. Then in Exodus 7:13 we read God hardening Pharaohs heart.
What man means for evil God means for good. It was Gods will for Josephs brothers to sell him into Egypt to save many people alive. Genesis 50:20
Read Romans 8 & 9
Surfxeo 5 months ago
Deuteronomy 30:19
Choose between death or life. Yes I have read that and when you read later we find out they cannot choose life by themselves but they need Gods grace to convert and save. Hense why we need Christ because man is unable to accomlish this on his own.
I suggest you read from Genesis all the way to Revelation and it will give you a thorough background to the faith. By Gods grace you will come to know the Gospel.
You should be more Christian in your responses if your a true disciple
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Hitler was a dictator and ordered murders of innocents. " Hitler didn't kill anyone, he got others to do it, just like your tin god does. He decrees child rape and murder in every detail to 'glorify his justice'.
If you say he didn't decree it, then that is denying Calvin's idea of God's 'sovereignty'.
Show me from the Institutes otherwise. Come on smart guy Back up your filthy big blasphemous mouth with some quotes instead of straw men and ad hominems. SNAKE
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires But with your ideology that has no purpose to Gods plan and God could not do anything. You make God out to be weak to mans will.
However this is not what Scripture teaches. God restrains the evil of men all the time, which if he didn't then the earth would be hell. However, for every evil God has a purpose and he will judge all evil and wickedness of man.
Romans 9:18
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth"
Read Romans 8 & 9
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo My theology is not the issue. The issue is whether your theology lines up with Ante-Nicene Orthodoxy regarding the question of free will. And I have shown already that it doesn't.
Origen in fact refuted the Gnostics who claimed that Romans 8 and 9 did not teach free will.
You are using the same prooftexts you liar
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Have you ever read Romans 8 & 9?
What does it plainly say. Exegete the texts especially 8:27-33
"Who can lay anything to the charge of Gods elect? It is God that Justifieth"
Surfxeo 5 months ago
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@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@Surfxeo I'm not concerned with the special cases of the Old Testament economy, please show me where Jesus or one of the Apostles ordered heretics killed. Any of the Ante-Nicene writers?
You are a hell-bound lying snake. That's EXACTLY what you are. You're a son of the devil.
You should stop reading Calvin's works and read the Bible or the ante-Nicene views on free will.
To hell with Calvinism and its various brands. It's all gnosticism. Google it.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires I read Scripute ever day. Do you? You are seriously messed up.
There is no free will in man. It is all the will of the Father. God rules not man!
(John 6:39-40)
'And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which He hath given me I should loose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believe on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.'
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "I read Scripute ever day. Do you? "
Sounds too much like the spirit of the man who prayed, in Luke 18:12 "I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess."
It's better to be seriously messed up on Jesus than to misuse the Bible to support your 'precious' MAN-MADE interpretations.
If you had read the ante-Nicene writers as I suggested you WOULD'VE avoided using the same texts the GNOSTICS used to deny free will.
Impudent rogue!
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires You just refuted yourself !
"It's better to be seriously messed up on Jesus"
If you have no idea about Christ then you are not a Christian.
Why are you quoting non biblical material? Are you unable to use the word of God to support your claims?
I have read ante-Nicene writers. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon. They all believed in the elect.
There is not free will in the Bible. Find it if you can. You will not as it is not there.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "I have read ante-Nicene writers. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon. They all believed in the elect." The fathers defended FREE WILL. I believe in the ELECT too. Its in the Bible. But the HERESY that each person who joins the elect was ALREADY elect before that person was born is not taught by God. Save your prooftexts. I've been answering the same ones for years now. The idea of predestination of lost persons to salvation is not biblical.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Ah, you have commited the Arminian falacy that Calvinism teaches double pre-destination.. the idea of predestination to the lost.
Cavinism teaches that ALL are lost and are worthy of the wrath of God. That all are dead in trespasses and sins. There is no need to predestine those that are already dead.
No, Calvinism teaches that the elect are predestined by the Father to eternal life but the lost are left to recieve their just reward.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo you are talking about YOUR brand of Calvinism. I deal with Calvinists and even CAlvin himself taught that reprobation occurs when election does.
You are straw manning me, claiming I am an Arminian when I hold to Early Church Orthodoxy, you are also straw manning others in the majority who claim to be Calvinists.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires Its not early church orthodoxy you hold to, but Arminianism.
There is only one brand of Calvinism.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Its not early church orthodoxy you hold to, but Arminianism.
There is only one brand of Calvinism."
So you reject early church orthodoxy! I can cite at least 14 Ante-Nicene fathers to refute you. Origen reclaimed verses from the gnostics who were citing them to prove free will is not involved in either sin or conversion.
You are a bonehead and a liar. A smug liar. You combine arminian and calvinism in one vile pile of excrement
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires
(Matthew 7:15-19)
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo wonderful passages. Ironic when quoted by a false prophet who produces bad fruit and makes God the author of all the sin, crime and wickedness in the world.
Don't bother with the 'straw man' card. I know Calvinism better than you.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires I'm not a prophet. There are no more prophets from Revelation onwards. I doubt you know Calvinism as I doubt you have ever read any calvinistic material. You are only quoting other people biases against him.
I dount you have ever read any of Calvins book or even calvinistic preachers like Bunyan, Spureon etc
Surfxeo 5 months ago
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@Surfxeo Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Its not early church orthodoxy you hold to, but Arminianism.
There is only one brand of Calvinism."
The issue is your rejection of Ante-Nicene Church orthodoxy. Calvinism is gnosticism. Please show me one father claiming that free will is heresy. Please show me where the gnostics tried supporting free will with Scripture. There is only one brand of Calvinism. It is Platonic dualism/fatalism.
fractalfires 5 months ago
" Calvinism teaches that the elect are predestined by the Father to eternal life but the lost are left to recieve their just reward." Calvinism teaches that the damnation of person's is settled long before they were born. They are not damned because of their sin, but because of predestination. Calvinism simply CALLS this justice.
Calvinism denies justice altogether. It teaches lawlessness and hate. You're a blasphemer
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires They are not predestined to be damned but are already under Gods wrath, we are all under Gods wrath because of original sin.
Gods justice is exercised by God punishing the guilty, Gods mercy is shown by God forgiving the guilty. God has to punish the guilty for him to be just which is why Christ died in the place of sinners to satisfy divine justice.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo Not according to professing Calvinists I recently addressed in a two-part video. They said that God can do whatever he wants and it would still be just.
That includes if he passed new laws on us to make marriage sin and idolatry virtue. It includes God committing idolatry if he so chose. I don't know what brand of Calvinism you are talking about but you sure disagree with CBALLEN, blogrich55 and 1689Baptist and NB3K, etc.
You throw everything in there and the kitchen sink, lol
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires I live in a Calvinistic country so I know what is Calvinism. We have had it from the time of the reformation so I know what I am talking about.
Sin is any any breaking of Gods law and as God is supreme he cannot sin since all sin is against him. Remember Jesus forgave the sin that others had done to other people, but in reality all sin is against God himself.
God cannot sin as God is holy.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "I live in a Calvinistic country so I know what is Calvinism." You don't know shaving cream from shineola. The only thing you know what you are talking about is LYING.
You think God is a puppeteer and use couched terms to express it.
Calvinism is doublepredestination any way you slice it as I have shown. You're such a bonehead you don't even realize it. Can't you keep up? I'm sick of reminding you.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires
If you are a Christian then please use more appropriate language.
(Titus 3:2)
"To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men."
Scripture only ever speaks of predestination for the elect.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "If you are a Christian then please use more appropriate language."
Okay, you whitewashed tomb, hypocrite, son of perdition viper, accuser of the brethren, spot in the lovefeast, dog returning to its vomit, not even good for the compost heap but needs to be thrown out, one who will get vomited out of God's mouth.
Scripture only ever speaks of the ELECT as a group, not as specific individuals being predestined to become Christians. Just as Israel was God's elect. What a bonehead
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires And who is Israel but Gods elect whether Jew or Gentile, they are one in Christ. And who are the elect but those who Christ died for who have been Chosen by the Father before the foundation of the word.
For as many as are LED by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
You who live by the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Ah, you have commited the Arminian falacy that Calvinism teaches double pre-destination."
No, you have committed the bonehead falacy of lying to do damage control and control the public image of calvinism even to justify lying to do it.
Calvinism is an ISM. Christianity is not.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires To be sent to hell you do not need to do anything as all sinners deserve the justice of God, however to be saved you require Gods grace and turn a rebel sinner who hates God, is dead and trespasses and sinners to be born again and have their sins taken away by the blood of Christ. As the word of God clearly teaches only the Elect have been predestined from eternity. This is what Calvinism teaches and not predestination. We get to define what we teach, not you!
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "Ah, you have commited the Arminian falacy that Calvinism teaches double pre-destination.. "
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires What is makes is you not understanding context and plain english. Only the Elect are predestined for salvation, the rest are lest in their sins.
You need saving grace from God the Father before you are an adopted son of God, you do not need to do anything to be cast into hell. All sinners deserve Gods wrath & curse. This is what the Gospel is.
Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
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@Surfxeo"Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected." And again "Double predestination completely refuted. Now you stand corrected."
You are a boneheaded liar. So I'm going to post this again.
Calvin's Institutes, book 3 chapter 21 OF THE ETERNAL ELECTION, BY WHICH GOD HAS PREDESTINATED SOME TO SALVATION, AND OTHERS TO DESTRUCTION.
-that's JUST the title. That makes you a liar. I guess asking a liar for an apology is an exercise in futility especially here.
fractalfires 5 months ago
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"There is not free will in the Bible. Find it if you can. You will not as it is not there."
You're a bonehead.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires
(John 17:6-7)
"I have manifested thy name unto the men that THOU GAVEST me out of the world: thine the were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
Now they have known that all things WHATSOEVER THOU HAST GIVEN ME ARE OF THEE"
John 17:9
"I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine"
John 17:24
"Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am;"
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@Surfxeo "I read Scripute ever day. Do you?" ""I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.""
Elementary, Sherlock.
fractalfires 5 months ago
@fractalfires If you do not read Scripture how do you expect to understand Scripture. Here is a good Scripture proof
Acts 17:11
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scripture daily, whether those things were so"
Reading is one of the sacriments we are to hold if we are to be blessed and increase in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who died not for the world but to those that the Father gave to Christ.
Surfxeo 5 months ago
@tgillspy1 assuming that what you mean by "heresy" is any doctrine that denies the fundamental teachings of Christianity, what essential teaching of Christianity makes Calvinism "damnable"?
payn3a91 9 months ago
Disclaimer: I am NOT an arminian, and do NOT believe in" lose your salvation" etc. Yes, ALL name it and claim it is an abomination and from satan but CALVINISM is JUST as satanic, blasphemous, anti-Christ, God hating, Trinity despising, Bible contradicting and scipture denying as name it and claim it!
barrypatrickius 1 year ago
I think she (and Dan Corner, and Ergun Caner, and others like them who are downright nasty to the reformed group) is pretty much one of the reasons why I affirm the doctrines of grace. No exegesis, no desire to look at context, no desire to faithfully represent the other side, no desire to look at Greek and Hebrew, no desire to engage in dialogue, just wanting to attract the audience to a monologue to tell them why they need to stay away from those nasty old Calvinists.
payn3a91 1 year ago
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RiseWhiteDevil 1 year ago
excellent video brother, I was an pure athiest, not the half wit sheeple that call themselves athiest, if calvinism wasn't the truth, you nor I would be saved, not only that, after I was saved, I spent the next ten years, searching all religions and cults, still he was transforming me, after 26 years I found out about calvinism, the world has kept it from me, because armenianism is the work of satan
twominustwo 1 year ago
I agree with you completely. Calvinism is the Gospel.
Surfxeo 1 year ago
The main Satanist teaching is "Do What Thou Wilt" (sounds so important in Old-English).
Free-Will and exaltation of the will is much closer to Armenian thinking.
RomansGalatians 1 year ago
Lol,Arminians believe as the Romans Catholics do,they just don't have all the rituals .Most don't realize that almost ALL PROTESTANTS WERE REFORMED AFTER THE REFORMATION.Arminianism is the new religion that's only been taught in America for the last 150 years,and now is dominant because of people's itchy ears,they want a god they can control and manipulate,one they can give the finger to and then if THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE,they believe God is obligated to come and save them at their pleasure.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
I think this is your best video - or at least one of them - God bless you brother.
1536inGeneva 1 year ago
blueiceplayer i couldnt of said it better myself. :)
God bless you brother
jnclz 1 year ago
Sorry but God isn't a pussy, love wasn't what flung lucifer to the earth and made the earth without form and void and sealed it up from light. The God of the bible is a holy God.
blueiceplayer 1 year ago
lol I think I'm a calvanist and I didn't even know it. I think people just have a problem with understanding God has a holy wrath and justice and without it he cannot be love without wrath and justice he cannot be a holy God.
blueiceplayer 1 year ago
i would also go on to say that Yes Jesus loves... THAT is true... but it can't be this one sided deal... there HAS to be a equal emphasis upon wrath... and in His wrath, we see His love... through the person and work of Christ...
shine777 1 year ago
the doctrines of grace is of the bible, those whos refute calvinisim go study your bible, stop being led away,by you can lose your salvation arminism type doctrine, that is not biblical, ill tell you what is of satan ,apostolic oneness pentecostalism, that is from the pit of hell
reformedbro1 1 year ago
i would even go so far as to say that Arminian theology quite frankly can be the beginning of today's radical secular humanism...
Jacobus' counter-point if that can be said is this, "Man has some measure of goodness in him that allowed him to choose Christ." But that is anti-thetical TO THE BIBLE!!!!!!
So to all of you who say Calvinism is satanism... give me BOOK, CHAPTER, AND VERSE, where man has some goodness in him... again... BOOK... CHAPTER... AND VERSE... PLEASE!!!!????
shine777 1 year ago
@shine777 well said my brother
reformedbro1 1 year ago
You want to know why people find calvinism so offensive ? Because it twists and distorts the nature and character of God. You would also be offended if someone would be telling lies about your father or mother. Please pray to God about your calvinism. He will show you the truth.
cherubimX 1 year ago
Calvinism is satanic. Leaven is satanic.
Calvinism has a spirit behind it which isn't of God.
LiquidSmooth 1 year ago
I noticed that her account is now closed. We can only pray that God would open the eyes of this lady (tiredofhype09) and others who share her slanderous and unwarranted views against the Doctrines of Grace.
APSOC38 1 year ago
You are a great speaker and even better, a great teacher. My mother was Calvinist and came from Hungary where it was a very big thing. I went to a Hungarian Protestant Reformed Church when I was little but have to say, I still don't know what being a Calvinist means. Can you tell me?
amethyst2466 2 years ago
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the most interesting is the way Calvinists and Witches embrace the same Darkness..and call it truth!
KarensFaith and Her Daughter and Acircleoflight and Saunders,, its witchcraft and professing Christianity emerging into on religion of darkness...
From;
The Exposing Dangers of Utube Witchcraft
openairpreacher 2 years ago
I have an observation.
Sadducees and the Pharisees opposed each other.
In the Bible Jesus speaks against both of them.
The Sadducees--- believed in freewill
The Pharisees--- believed in both some things are predestined and others are left to our free will.
there was another sect of Jews that lived at that time called the Essenes.
The Essenes---believed in Predestination much like "Calvinist" do
Where in the Bible does Jesus speak against the Essenes.
Just an observation.
TheGloriaaDeus 2 years ago
good video. never knew much about calvinist and never really looked it up, but well put & said.
-Christ Bless
NinjaForeChrist 2 years ago
Whoa! God is not just a God of love, HE IS LOVE. 1 John 4:8. Now, tell me where in the Bible does it say that God is wrath? I've be dying for a Calvinist to tell me where it is. It doesn't exist. And for that fact, there's more to the book of Romans than just chapter 1:18-32. It keeps going on!
landonh5 2 years ago
I'm not a Calvinist, but read the book of Amos, it describes the wrath of God.
AbdielAbiram 2 years ago
Wow....your pretty screwed up...and it sounds pretty horrifying a religion
Sounds to me like you would have been better to remain in Satanism
Arkanix 2 years ago
but to Receive The Salvation of Grace A Person must Repent & Believe The Gospel. What I mean by Repentance Is You must Oath that God Jesus alone Is Righteous No other but also If Someone never Hear The Gospel God Jesus Knows If They would Believe & Save Them & If They are The Children of God Jesus They will Believe therefore God will lose None.
ortafunk 2 years ago
I will try again I used to be A Calvinist one of the reasons was because I could see the corruption In main stream Churches of how They supported the Illuminati government so I figured They must have Not been chosen by God but there are the children of satan the devil that are totally evil but The Children of God Jesus has some evil In Us too. Romans chapter 9 Is a before & after before God would have chose a Few to be Saved, After Jesus Sacrifice Now Everyone Is Legally allowed to be Saved--
ortafunk 2 years ago
why don't you censor Me more youtube
ortafunk 2 years ago
"They believe in a Hitler-"
No we do not! Give me proof that we do!
TheBigMack321 2 years ago
Proverbs, chapter 1: 22-27
I agree with you! most people want to look like dog puke in Gods eyes...people that think Gods not mad, read the bible for yourself stop letting people read for you!
sexywildchildbaby 2 years ago
Your video is very true Mark. [For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay", says the Lord. and again, "the LORD will judge His people". It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.]- Hebrews 10:30,31 [For our God is a consuming fire.]- Hebrews 12:29
OurGr8God 2 years ago
Even though I'm not a christian, I do agree with this video in regards to the bible.
tm11111111 2 years ago
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This is a fablous video!!! It is high time people start setting the record straight in regards to the attempted demonization of 'unconditional election'. We have proof but they refuse to listen to the truth about anything. It reminds me how Jesus was accused of have a demon!!!!!! Finally, the real satanists are being exposed for lying about Calvinism and Unconditional Election. They are sinning against the Spirit by calling the TRUTH a lie!!!
ashirly 2 years ago
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ashirly 2 years ago
Amen Calvinism is biblical fact
gibsonjammer1 2 years ago
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anticultwatch 2 years ago
I dont need to see these articles because I have studied much on the subject and I have came to the truth of the scriptures. I pray you will not call biblical fact heresy in the future. God Bless
gibsonjammer1 2 years ago
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anticultwatch 2 years ago
Oh,don't be ridiculous. It's so simple a child could understand. Psalm 103:19
The LORD has established his throne in heaven, and his kingdom rules over all.
There you have it. God is Sovereign. HIs throne is established in Heaven. His kingdom rules over all. All leaves out nothing. What is man?? If a man who is nothing things himself to be something, he deceives himself. No throne is exalted over God's whereby God fails to rule over man. Your anger is towards God and His throne.
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anticultwatch 2 years ago
TiredofHype09 has stated that Christianity is a white man's religion - white people are devils. She says that the black man is God. She worships the black man as God. She's called all black men and women out of Christian churches. She states Malcolm X, a Muslim, was a true prophet. So, that's where this woman was coming from. I am seeing more and more that those who vehemently oppose the sound doctrines of God's Sovereignty are, most likely, unsaved ppl and that's why they are so carnal.
graceexplosion 2 years ago
Grace - Does she state this on a video?
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Yes. I don't believe I can link to that. Yes, publicly stated. God bless.
graceexplosion 2 years ago
CT, You can see this on her tapes. Also, simone56 (sp??) has done a tape on this TiredofHype09's recent vids. I was really debating with TiredofHype09 (and one other "arminiast" on a tape by simone56). simone56's vid stated that the doctrines of God's Sovereignty are correct. I felt in my heart after debating for a period, the Lord had me to not further discuss. You know, when reprobates are exposed to truth and resist, they can blaspheme the Spirit. Sincerely, it appears this woman has.
graceexplosion 2 years ago
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anticultwatch 2 years ago
The rapture of believers is to take place AFTER the tribulation at the return of Christ. The 144,000 is not a literal number because we are told:
Revelation 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which NO MAN COULD NUMBER, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
The ELECT cannot be NUMBERED by any man. Obviously 144,000 is a number which can be comprehended by men.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
cont........
and Christ spoke of the GATHERING of Gods ELECT after the tribulation:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened...
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT, from one end of heaven to the other.
The ELECT are not Outward Jews or limited to Jewish converts. The biblical fact is that the Elect are God's chosen people out of Jews and Gentiles..
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
6) Christ himself spoke of God's Elect during the tribulations before his second coming:
Matt4:22-24
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the ELECTS SAKE those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very ELECT
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
5) Peter very clearly stated in his first letter that the church at "BABYLON" - a Gentile convert church was also elected:
1 Peter 5:13
The church that is at Babylon, ELECTED together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
4) Paul wrote letters to the Ancient Greeks in Thessolonika reminding them of their "ELECTION FROM GOD":
1 Thessalonians 1:4
Knowing, brethren beloved, your ELECTION of God.
The Ancient Greeks were about as Gentile as they get. The non-Christian Greeks were some of the worst Polytheists.
Dont you see that you are under a gross misconception about God's Elect?? And then you have the chuzpa to say that its biblical? No sir - you are very far from the "Biblical view" of the Elect.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
3) The Colossian Church was a primarily Gentile convert church and yet Paul refers to them as the ELECT:
Colossians 3:12
Put on therefore, as the ELECT OF GOD, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Paul refers to gentile converts as the Elect because God's Elect are individual people out of Jews and Gentiles. Gods Elect are not simply outward Jews or limited to Jewish Converts to Christ. You have a misunderstanding of God's Elect.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) Titus was NOT a Jewish convert. He was an uncircumcised Gentile convert and the scriptures describe him as one of the ELECT:
Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Sorry again - you are refuted. God's ELECT refer to BOTH Jews and Gentiles, not limited to Jewish converts as you assume.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1)Think about this logically:
A) Gods Elect are of both Jewish and Gentile Converts (Acts13:48,Rom9:23-24)
B) Peters letters were written to Jewish Converts (Your assuming Peter did not write his letters for gentiles)
C) The idea that Peters Letters were written to the Jewish makes no DIFFERENCE as it still does NOT logically limit the word ELECT to Jewish converts.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
cont.....
Paul the Apostle was a Jew sent out to preach the gospel to gentiles (especially)as well as Jews. Paul himself stated that the very reason for all of his tribulations was to REACH THE ELECT:
2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the ELECTS SAKE, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
Sorry - You are refuted.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
cont....
Acts13:48
And when the GENTILES heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and AS MANY AS WERE ORDAINED TO ETERNAL LIFE BELIEVED
The scriptures are clear that God's Elect (those whom God unconditionally chose/ordained for salvation before the foundation of the World) are of both Jews and Gentiles!
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Incorrect - The "ELECT" are not the outward Jews-Romans9:27. The Elect are those whom God chose unconditionally before the foundation of the world to become saved in Christ of both Jews and Gentiles:
Rom9:23
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had AFORE PREPARED unto glory, 24Even us, whom he hath called, NOT THE JEWS ONLY but also of the Gentiles?
NOT THE JEWS ONLY
NOT THE JEWS ONLY
NOT THE JEWS ONLY
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
The "Biblical view" of God's Redemptive Love is that it is manifest in his people alone:
These are HIS:
Sheep(John10:3)
Chosen (Eph1:4)
Elect (Mark 13:20)
Remnant (Romans11:5)
Peculiar people (1Peter2:9)
A video misinterpreting the word "World" in John3:16 is Not needed. We know it refers to ALL those whom the father Gave Jesus to save out tof the World:
John6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Correction - The Calvinist view is the most faithful, consistant expression of the SOUND scriptural teaching on God's Love. This idea that God has
a universal redemptive love for all humanity is not biblical; but a belief after the fleshly wisdom of the world. God's love is demonstrated in that every sinner deserves the fate of Sodom/Gemmorah and the Lake of Fire. Yet God unconditionaly chose to save a people for himself just as he chose to save Noah and his family from the Great flood.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Awaiting your reply. I am praying for you.
October31st1517 2 years ago
God's has weakness in his sovereignty??? thats crazy, can that she say that? God has love and that does not make his svereignty weak in any way lol
illbehonest 2 years ago
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RobertBaral365 2 years ago
You Said: "I was talking about making a vid about whether God loves everyone or not, what do you think about God's love??"
God's benevolence is sovereign just as his other attributes. We cannot FORCE God to love those whom he did not choose to love:
Romans9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
God is the sovereign Potter over all of his own creation, he is not answerable to anyone or anything and we have no right to question it (Romans 9:14-22)
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
You asked: "has all of Israel been saved and gone to heaven then or should we look into a different meaning of this term? (I'll give you a hint, it's the latter, not the former)"
Your misidentifying who "redemptive Israel" is. God's Elect people are his "spiritual Israel" made up of Jews and Gentile whom he unconditionally elected, predestinated for salvation before the foundation of the world. Corporate Israel is NOT saved otherwise all of Modern day Jews would believe on Jesus as the Christ.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) You said: It's funny that a calvinist says that term always means those who God ordained for salvation
God Elect (spiritual Israel) are made up of Jews and Gentiles whom God unconditionally elected and predestinated (AFORE PREPARED) for salvation before the foundation of the World:
Rom9:23-24
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had AFORE PREPARED unto glory,
Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but ALSO OF THE GENTILES?
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
You asked: How come all of Israel is not saved?
Answer) Because God's Elect are his "spiritual Israel", not the corporate outward nation of Israel:
Romans 9:6-8
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are NOT ALL ISRAEL, which are OF ISRAEL:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children....
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
You said: "The tares would be a good representation of the reformers in Christianity. Im making a vid about this"
No - a "good representation" would be those Jews who rejected Jesus and tried to murder him:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning...
The Reformers accepted, loved and worshipped Jesus and were used of God to rediscover the truth of the Christian faith based on the 5 Solas and Sovereign Grace.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
cont.....
Ephesians 1:4-6
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love
Having PREDESTINATED us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, ACCORDING to the good pleasure of his will
according to the good pleasure of his will,
according to the good pleasure of his will,
according to the good pleasure of his will,
according to the good pleasure of his will
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Election is NOT based anything Forseen in the sinner, It is based on Divine sovereignty:
2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US in Christ Jesus before the world began
NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US
NOTaccording to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which WAS GIVEN US
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
You said: Romans 9:11 is taken way out of context
Nope - the chapter context is all about Unconditional sovereign Election:
18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour
27Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
4) The Context of Matt13:37 is pretty straightforward. Jesus describes the difference between the truly saved (Gods people) and the Christian imitators (Devils people)
A) God himself planted the GOOD SEED of his people: 37He answered and said.. He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
B The Devil planted the seed of his own people: 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil
In either case - the seeds were already predetermined and sovereignly planted to be either Wheat or Tares.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
3) Faith is Given by God and men are commanded to examine (TEST)themselves whether they be in this given faith:
Phil1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
Acts 13:48
And as many as WERE ORDAINED to eternal life believed
2 Cor13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) "Strive" does not imply a natural ability required to earn salvation outside of Grace Alone:
Rom9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy
2) Unconditional Election is a True doctrine taught in the scriptures:
Rom9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
3) You said: In the Rom verse, how dare Paul think he can make the Jews jealous and think they may have a will to choose God
In Rom11 - Paul does NOT think the Jews have a "Freewill" ability outside of Grace alone.
Read it in Context - in verse 7 he first said:
11:7
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
These are NOT the words of a man who believes in Libertarian Freewill, but sovereign election
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) The purpose of Paul in presenting the outward call of the gospel news to Everyone is to reach God's Elect:
2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
These are folks Paul is seeking to reach in Romans11:14 by his presentation of the gospel by "any means".
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) Rom11:14 = "If by any means" is the "outward presentation" of the gospel to different people in different ways (1Cor.9:22confirms this). It will only effectutate in those who receive the Inward Call
"I might save some" = These are the Elect as we read in verses 5-7
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the ELECTION of grace
7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
4) Faith starts and ends with the giver of Faith. God plants the seed, God waters the seed and God grows the seed. At no time is man required to "demonstrate" a mustard seed outside of Grace. The Parable of the sower confirms that God is the sower of the seed:
Matt13:37
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man
You cant earn God's grace by first demonstrating anything. Thats a contradiction to Grace - which is the unmerited favor of God
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
3) You said: If faith is given, then you cannot call it faith. How could your faith ever be tested?
Salvation is not some Test. We cannot EARN salvation by passing some exam. If I am required to pass a test in school - then I earned my Grade because I studied. ALL the work was on me and it shows in my results. But That's NOT the gospel. Faith is a complete reliance on the FINISHED WORK of Christ. This faith comes only as a result of Sovereign Grace. !
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) Faith is a "Means" by which God proves to us that we are his people. God unconditionally grants this faith as a gift to the Elect and Paul exorts people to "TEST THEMSELVES" whether they be in that Faith, unless they are deceived.
2Peter1:10 teaches same - self examination for the "manifestation" of Faith:
2Cor13:5
Examine yourselves whether ye be IN the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) You said that there is "nothing easy about salvation". If by this statement you mean that man must "WORK" for salvation - you are Incorrect, Christ did ALL the work on the cross. You cannot add, perfect , change or thwart that Work in any way shape or form. He did it ALL. Your confusing the "manifestations" of Salvation in the lives of God's people with "Conditions". The very "desire" for Faith, Repentance and works are all gifts of regeneration which come of Grace alone.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Wow, this woman needs to stop making videos. Lord have mercy.
nlspears02 2 years ago
Excellent video! 5 stars.
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2) All whom God Loves will be preserved. This preservation includes CORRECTION and Chastening:
Proverbs 3:12
For whom the LORD loveth HE CORRECTETH; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
Job 5:17
Behold, happy is the man whom God CORRECTETH: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
The actions are clearly God's. If he does Not correct, it won't happen. God may use people for this correction (James5) and we cannot take credit for that which the he is using us to do.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) James5:19-20 = This passage is a demonstration of God's use of believers as his "instruments" to correct his people from the errors (perhaps theological) brought on by their Flesh. It is ALL a product of God's grace alone as we are but the instruments in his hands to be used as he wills, including for the Preservation of his people. Throughout the scriptures God uses people for the means of accomplishing his ends. Does this mean we can take credit? No. We need to humbly give God the Glory.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) Paul assures believers that their very Perserverence is based on the actions of God alone who "WILL" faithfully preserve those who he has CALLED:
1Thess5:23-24
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be PRESERVED blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
FAITHFUL IS HE that calleth you, who also WILL do it.
2 Thes3:3
"But the Lord is FAITHFUL, and He WILL strengthen and protect you from the evil one.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) No - God does not base Perserverence on the conditional faith of people - but on his OWN faithfulness. Faith is a Gift that is unconditionally GIVEN to God's people and used to sustain them:
1Phil1:29
For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him..
1Cor1:8
8Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
GOD IS FAITHFUL, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) Paul did not "Initiate" the Lord standing firm. We read that "ALL MEN" forsook him (v16), but GOD Did Not
(v17)" Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me". Paul is teaching us that although men will Forsake him - God will not! So why did God NOT forsake him?
Because as the next verse teaches:
18And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will PRESERVE me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Gods PRESERVATION is unconditional.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
1) Incorrect. The Lord did not stand by Paul because of any "condition". Nowhere in the chapter do we see your presumption of "Therefore because of his Faith".
16At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge. 17Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
I wouldn't consider myself a to be hard-core 5-pointer; however, at this point in my growth/walk with the Lord, I have been leaning more towards Reformed theology than any other doctrine. When I see people accusing Calvinists in this way, I doubt that it comes from a place of hatred or vitriol, but rather, I think it comes more from a place of ignorance. I think if people really understood it better, they would seriously hesitate in making such false statements and outright slander.
skintightpotato 2 years ago
Prior to educating myself on Calvinism, I also thought the tenets were ludicrous. I never thought it was "evil," but it just didn't make sense or seem fair. As I get deeper in my faith and examine the exegetical writings of Reformed theologians with what SCRIPTURE ITSELF actually says, the more I think "Wow! This is really what it all means!" I can finally understand the Sovereignty of God! And, contrary to what tiredofhype09 says, it's the LEAST "prideful" doctrines imaginable! :)
skintightpotato 2 years ago
Amen - Glad to read your good testimony on the matter.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Hey...thanks :) It's only the truth of the matter. All Glory goes to God! God Bless :)
skintightpotato 2 years ago
No - not at all. Read further on to verse 18 where Paul attributes the cause of his success:
2 Tim4:18
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will PRESERVE me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen
It was God's sovereign Grace that preserved Paul - not his own ability outside
Phili1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Another video that brilliantly proves to me how utterly unscriptural Calvinism really is. Thank you.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 years ago
Kcannon77 -
You accuse other people of being "blind" - but you don't realize that what your doing is robbing God of his sovereign Glory and giving it to the Flesh of man.
Stop defending man, and start Defending God. Forget that false "freewill" man gospel of the World and turn to the true sound doctrine of the Bible as expressed in Calvinism!
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
2) Its God's Sovereign Grace that will PRESERVE his elect through the perserverence of Faith. This is the evidence that one is saved, which is why Paul exhorts believers to "Examine YOURSELF" lest ye be a reprobate (2Cor13:5)
The "Crown" is a consequence of God's planned Perserverence of his people and is an INHERITANCE: 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Seems you answered your own question in your comment. In the OT, the people chosen by God, had the Holy Spirit, come upon them. HE did not dwell with them. Which explains why, they continually fell from grace. NT believers, have the Holy Spirit indwelt. At least that is my take on it.
Haukman66 2 years ago
But the definitions of the Words are not relevant when not viewed in their appropriate context. That's like saying that the word "World" in Luke 2:1 means the whole wide Universaliatic World:
Luke 2:1
And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
If I iolated the word "World" from its context - I would never know that the word is referring to only a segment of the world - in this case the Roman empire.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
The Words themsleves are defined by the context in which they are in - which you refuse to see. If people take "words" at face value without a thourogh examiniation of the scriptures, they will surely be led to some erroneous conclusion such as the idea that a Born Again "regenerated "believer can lose his salvation or become "un-bornagain". God sent Saul an "EVil Spirit" to torment him - this does not occur to born again, regenerated believers. It occurs to the unsaved.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago