The Israeli lobby in the US pressured an escalation of the Vietnam war so they figured while the US was busy in Vietnam they could escalate aggression against their Arab neighbors with weapons the US supplied them. When things looked bad for Israel then they started pressuring an end to Vietnam so the US could come over and save their asses.
It wasn't god that allowed the Jews to take this land it was ruthlessness, cruelty, deviousness and subterfuge. Terrorist acts murder and owning the US military! Never not from day one have the Jews ever even considered treating the Palestinians humanely or honestly. There policy has always been to treat these people as cruelly as possible!
i think andyinvietnam and badger5079 are some of the most educated people on youtube. finally it is good to see a good discussion going on, and not senseless bitching and arguing from stupid arabs and stupid jews. i'm jewish and no zionist. when people ask me about the middle east, i could give them a long and convoluted answer as a student of politics, however i say merely this: it takes two to tango.
@andyinvietnam If Arabs are living and using the land, it's theirs. A Jew living in Brooklyn has no "right" to lands being lived on and used by Palestinian families. I would like you to prove otherwise.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 The Jews living in Brooklyn, live in Brooklyn because they don't approve of the state of Israel, as a secular State. You should really do some reading before entering this complicated world and making a fool of yourself. Also "Anti-Jew" is not a word unless you are 12 years old. The term is anti-Semitic.
@Lotrfan99 "Semitic" is a social construct based on outdated 19th century race theories. Most of the people whom well call "Jews" aren't even the descendants of Israelites but of groups of different people who converted over time.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 That goes for any ethnicity. You understand far too little about the constructs of Judaism and it's culture to be having respectable dialogues about said topic. Looking up a wikipedia article will not help you. Just give it up.
So you condemn Eretz Israel to be an apartheid state which ethncially cleanses the native Arab population and replaces them with European and Sephardic Jews?
@badger5079 - No I don't condemn Eretz HaKodesh for any reason at all. I think the only problem is our government is too soft on these arab gangsters & they must stop looking for approval from the rest of the world.The world has no business in the affairs of a Jewish nation.Remember the main reason we have an Israel is because people like you "Goyum" or Gentiles decided on not one but many occasions that you didn't want Jews.So we left you guys alone & we have our own land promised us by G-d.
You clearly see the Jews as very different to "Goyim". You continue to divide yourself from the rest of humanity. You believe that Jews do not have to obey international law because of your false interpretation of Judaism which you see as justifying ethnic cleansing. By these actions, do you condemn Israel to be an apartheid state -a state in whom God is not best pleased.
@badger5079 We will see. As far as your claim of ethnic cleansing, don't get your ideas from biased news come to Israel and you will see who is the victim...not the arabs.
Ben-Gurion admitted to a policy of systemically removing Palestinians form Palestine to make a clear path for Jewish colonists. This is ethnic cleansing. His policies have been supported by well known terrorists such as Begin, Meir (who denied the existence of Palestinians) and Sharon who covered up a massacre of Palestinians by his Falangist alllies. These facts are historically documented.
@badger5079 When Ben Gurion was around the only "Palestinians" were Jews - called Palestinians by the Greeks and Romans. Stop rewriting history. As Mark Twain said on his 1867 trip to the Holy Land. It was full of swamps, snakes, scorpians and desert. Then Jews began to return to the land and as the Bible says, the land was happy to see them. After we Jews started growing oranges the size of basketballs, the arabs moved into the area.
It is ironic that a Zionist would condemn the Palestinians for trying to promote their own sense of self-determination. Is it not the case that the Zionist regime in Israel has created colonies in the illegally occupied territories of Palestine so that they can use these "facts on the ground" as a means to continue to block the Palestinians right to a homeland? Why should you condemn the Palestinians for promoting the notion of Palestinian nationhood? Do they not also bleed?
@badger5079 First if there were a real "Palestinian" people who were in perril, it would be a Jew who was standing at point for their cause, just as Jews are leading the "Palestinian" efforts today. Secondly this mix of mid-east arabs from Egypt, Saudi, Turkey, Iraq etc calling themselves "Palestinians" have a homeland. JORDAN. It is 85% of the population. Why then are they trying to sub-divide one of the smallest countries in the world? Answer: because as your charter states-u want no Jews.
I am not Palestinian. I am merely arguing for justice for them so that peace can be found. Do you not recognise the hypocrisy of describing the non-Jewish natives of Palestine/Israel as Jordanians, Turks, Egyptians, Saudis, Iraqis and using this logic to deny them the right to live in the land where they have lived for generations? Israelis could be described as a mixture of Russian, German, Hungarian, Polish, Lithuanian, American, Moroccan, Iranian in the same way.
One could use your logic to declare that the Jews should go back to Europe, the U.S. and North Africa where they came from. Modern day Jews have no greater claim to Palestine than the native population which Zionism is trying to ethnically cleanse from the land in order to maintain the racial and religious purity of Israel. The natives of Palestine come from Palestine. They have the right to live there. Jordan is not a dumping ground for the victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing.
@badger5079 the torah does not distinguish between Jews. A Jew is a Jew, whether Ashkenazi, Sphardi, Mizrahi or Ger Tzedek. It was interesting hearing the line "Land promised to your fathers", religious documents are so vague. Technically speaking Muslims, Christians and Jews have the same fathers. The lineage of good old Abe. Wouldnt that make it legitimate for all Goyim to live in Eretz Yisrael.
I think it will take a great many years (if ever) before any part of Israel can be viewed as a civilized state after acting so fascistic under the extremist right and religious rule.
It seems like all political agenda in the Middle east is reached with the whip and the gun rather than with intelligence and diplomacy.
Why the British were deciding for a homeland for the Jewish people they originally considered Guyana in South America, Just think of the hassle they would've saved by making that the Jewish homeland.
The biggest concern with the Jews then would be deforestation, not nuclear war, genocide and huge casualties on both sides of small areas of land.
@badger5079 There are no palestinians, these people are arabs like other arabs. These people called themselves palestinians in 1964, the year the PLO was formed. On March 31, 1977 PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese..
Lying jews. Who would have guessed? Duh!
elitept 2 months ago
religion is war.
Ianjcarroll 5 months ago
Isn't the West Bank an occupied territory because they took it from an independent nation, Jordan?
Meirstein 7 months ago
The Israeli lobby in the US pressured an escalation of the Vietnam war so they figured while the US was busy in Vietnam they could escalate aggression against their Arab neighbors with weapons the US supplied them. When things looked bad for Israel then they started pressuring an end to Vietnam so the US could come over and save their asses.
PMnews1 8 months ago
It wasn't god that allowed the Jews to take this land it was ruthlessness, cruelty, deviousness and subterfuge. Terrorist acts murder and owning the US military! Never not from day one have the Jews ever even considered treating the Palestinians humanely or honestly. There policy has always been to treat these people as cruelly as possible!
PMnews1 8 months ago
i think andyinvietnam and badger5079 are some of the most educated people on youtube. finally it is good to see a good discussion going on, and not senseless bitching and arguing from stupid arabs and stupid jews. i'm jewish and no zionist. when people ask me about the middle east, i could give them a long and convoluted answer as a student of politics, however i say merely this: it takes two to tango.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
At 8:05 - Jewish trickery, gotta love it.
I'm not anti-Jew.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
There are 14 million square miles of arab/muslim lands. The arabs have no place in Aretz Israel.
andyinvietnam 1 year ago
@andyinvietnam If Arabs are living and using the land, it's theirs. A Jew living in Brooklyn has no "right" to lands being lived on and used by Palestinian families. I would like you to prove otherwise.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 - Yes actually we do.
andyinvietnam 10 months ago
@andyinvietnam Prove it for me, please.
juliaisafilmbuff123 10 months ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 The Jews living in Brooklyn, live in Brooklyn because they don't approve of the state of Israel, as a secular State. You should really do some reading before entering this complicated world and making a fool of yourself. Also "Anti-Jew" is not a word unless you are 12 years old. The term is anti-Semitic.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
@Lotrfan99 "Semitic" is a social construct based on outdated 19th century race theories. Most of the people whom well call "Jews" aren't even the descendants of Israelites but of groups of different people who converted over time.
juliaisafilmbuff123 8 months ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 That goes for any ethnicity. You understand far too little about the constructs of Judaism and it's culture to be having respectable dialogues about said topic. Looking up a wikipedia article will not help you. Just give it up.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
@andyinvietnam
So you condemn Eretz Israel to be an apartheid state which ethncially cleanses the native Arab population and replaces them with European and Sephardic Jews?
badger5079 10 months ago
@badger5079 - No I don't condemn Eretz HaKodesh for any reason at all. I think the only problem is our government is too soft on these arab gangsters & they must stop looking for approval from the rest of the world.The world has no business in the affairs of a Jewish nation.Remember the main reason we have an Israel is because people like you "Goyum" or Gentiles decided on not one but many occasions that you didn't want Jews.So we left you guys alone & we have our own land promised us by G-d.
andyinvietnam 10 months ago
@andyinvietnam
You clearly see the Jews as very different to "Goyim". You continue to divide yourself from the rest of humanity. You believe that Jews do not have to obey international law because of your false interpretation of Judaism which you see as justifying ethnic cleansing. By these actions, do you condemn Israel to be an apartheid state -a state in whom God is not best pleased.
badger5079 10 months ago
@badger5079 We will see. As far as your claim of ethnic cleansing, don't get your ideas from biased news come to Israel and you will see who is the victim...not the arabs.
andyinvietnam 10 months ago
@andyinvietnam
Ben-Gurion admitted to a policy of systemically removing Palestinians form Palestine to make a clear path for Jewish colonists. This is ethnic cleansing. His policies have been supported by well known terrorists such as Begin, Meir (who denied the existence of Palestinians) and Sharon who covered up a massacre of Palestinians by his Falangist alllies. These facts are historically documented.
badger5079 10 months ago
@badger5079 When Ben Gurion was around the only "Palestinians" were Jews - called Palestinians by the Greeks and Romans. Stop rewriting history. As Mark Twain said on his 1867 trip to the Holy Land. It was full of swamps, snakes, scorpians and desert. Then Jews began to return to the land and as the Bible says, the land was happy to see them. After we Jews started growing oranges the size of basketballs, the arabs moved into the area.
andyinvietnam 9 months ago
@andyinvietnam
It is ironic that a Zionist would condemn the Palestinians for trying to promote their own sense of self-determination. Is it not the case that the Zionist regime in Israel has created colonies in the illegally occupied territories of Palestine so that they can use these "facts on the ground" as a means to continue to block the Palestinians right to a homeland? Why should you condemn the Palestinians for promoting the notion of Palestinian nationhood? Do they not also bleed?
badger5079 9 months ago
@badger5079 First if there were a real "Palestinian" people who were in perril, it would be a Jew who was standing at point for their cause, just as Jews are leading the "Palestinian" efforts today. Secondly this mix of mid-east arabs from Egypt, Saudi, Turkey, Iraq etc calling themselves "Palestinians" have a homeland. JORDAN. It is 85% of the population. Why then are they trying to sub-divide one of the smallest countries in the world? Answer: because as your charter states-u want no Jews.
andyinvietnam 9 months ago
@andyinvietnam
I am not Palestinian. I am merely arguing for justice for them so that peace can be found. Do you not recognise the hypocrisy of describing the non-Jewish natives of Palestine/Israel as Jordanians, Turks, Egyptians, Saudis, Iraqis and using this logic to deny them the right to live in the land where they have lived for generations? Israelis could be described as a mixture of Russian, German, Hungarian, Polish, Lithuanian, American, Moroccan, Iranian in the same way.
badger5079 9 months ago
@andyinvietnam
One could use your logic to declare that the Jews should go back to Europe, the U.S. and North Africa where they came from. Modern day Jews have no greater claim to Palestine than the native population which Zionism is trying to ethnically cleanse from the land in order to maintain the racial and religious purity of Israel. The natives of Palestine come from Palestine. They have the right to live there. Jordan is not a dumping ground for the victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing.
badger5079 9 months ago
@badger5079 the torah does not distinguish between Jews. A Jew is a Jew, whether Ashkenazi, Sphardi, Mizrahi or Ger Tzedek. It was interesting hearing the line "Land promised to your fathers", religious documents are so vague. Technically speaking Muslims, Christians and Jews have the same fathers. The lineage of good old Abe. Wouldnt that make it legitimate for all Goyim to live in Eretz Yisrael.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
I think it will take a great many years (if ever) before any part of Israel can be viewed as a civilized state after acting so fascistic under the extremist right and religious rule.
It seems like all political agenda in the Middle east is reached with the whip and the gun rather than with intelligence and diplomacy.
Ulrna 1 year ago
Why the British were deciding for a homeland for the Jewish people they originally considered Guyana in South America, Just think of the hassle they would've saved by making that the Jewish homeland.
The biggest concern with the Jews then would be deforestation, not nuclear war, genocide and huge casualties on both sides of small areas of land.
newman015 1 year ago
Nice pictures with typically antisemitic comment by Christiane Amanpour.
kanaiboded 1 year ago
@kanaiboded i don´t actually know how Mrs. Amanpour would be antisemitic being married to a Jewish man...big paradox huh?
maurojosed 1 year ago
@maurojosed Why is this paradox? Even jews can be antisemitic. big paradox huh?
kanaiboded 1 year ago
@kanaiboded
Palestinians are also a Semitic people.
badger5079 1 year ago 9
@badger5079 There are no palestinians, these people are arabs like other arabs. These people called themselves palestinians in 1964, the year the PLO was formed. On March 31, 1977 PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese..
kanaiboded 1 year ago
@kanaiboded All states are artificial, so why worship them?
The same goes for zion-shits and their oh-so-precious "Israel".
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 For your kind it´s impossible that we don´t worship the state. Americans worship their states, but that`´s their business. :)
kanaiboded 1 year ago
@kanaiboded I am an anarchist and I worship no state. The state takes away my liberty so why would I be loyal to it?
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 In an anarchist world you'd be the first to fall.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
@Lotrfan99 Evidence please.
juliaisafilmbuff123 8 months ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 evidence to prove what? that you're an idiot? your comments speak for yourself darling.
Lotrfan99 8 months ago
@maurojosed Not at all, there are even antisemitic jews out there
kanaiboded 1 year ago
f,,,,in liers and peace haters!
msalman29 1 year ago
2:30 For 'pragmatic' 'security,' they started building homes in someone else's back yard.
alexeykh 2 years ago
"from a secular perspective" a man made cop out
TalkShitAvenger 2 years ago
Great Videos Mazel Tov
YomeHar58 2 years ago 7