Logitech G25 with GTR2 - Corvette C5R on SPA

[tojern]

seems like the weel has alot of input lag : /

[Andrash88]

you should have bigger wheel sensitivity in options

[evolutiontecktonik]

WUE hear these well you asshole x nunka torse the

ezo embers to handle these well-calibrated qee shows

and remember your arms nunka driving tuersas

[CoolFille100]

i cant configure g25 with the game? the force feedback is like locked? :O

[LeBadman]

lol @ small screen. I have the G27. 400$ BABY!!!

[GhostM3n]

game name?

[SatanKreator]

@GhostM3n GTR2 you blind fool

[MrGooseMuffin]

wow i have a canon powershot a560 and my quality is no where near this good...

[MU5CULAR]

wow this guy obviously hasnt passed his test

[ctkamenovski]

I hope you don`t turning the wheel like that in the real life :D

[MaddriverPL]

If anyone want to MOD G25 look on my video I can supply mounting plate with or without SLI-M. Please remember my design is Copyright Protected. MadDriverPL@ymail.com

[MrBlack1903]

just ask the guys like are there or your own friend ... type who have a steering whhel and are happy ... ask type him its better

[MrErt234]

kool

[extremedrivr]

DUDE!! Please recalibrate the wheel so you don't rip your arms in two!!

[youngskillz08]

Rofl ... LEARN TO DRIVE BRO. Crossing arms is all good but at least do it hand over hand ahahahaha .. you spastic. G25 has the 900 degree rotation too, why are you using 200!? WEAK. I want one but I'm not going to spend ridiculous amounts of cash on it for something that's only a little better than the Logitech DFP .. think I'll get a DFP.

[urielops14]

wow this kidwould crash in real life he crosses his arms lmao wow noob

[Cheifslappuho12]

how much does that thing cost and can it be used on ps3/xbox360?

[simobgbgbg]

@Cheifslappuho12 the thing cost around 189 bucks and can be used of PC and ps3!

[glockfan14]

nice game, nice wheel and nice driving

[cannabischarlie]

what does whether you used a laptop or not have to do with showing the wheel? especially because you put it on a normal monitor anyway and have an auxilary keyboard for it.

[ssj5moTheR]

this is not a laptop!!!!

[serge933]

The G25 uses a 900 degree lock to lock system. Its more realistic than your typical wheel which only does about 270 lock to lock. The wheel is not broken.

The Noise is from the gears inside the wheel, the new G25 uses a planetary gear system if im not mistaken, and is alot quieter. but itsnormal

[gamingpro12]

"the new g25"? Don't you mean the G27? (G25 is about 3 years old) If so, the G27 uses helical gears not planetary, thats why it is quieter.

[jpdalmocellin]

is that noise of the wheel when he turns it normal???

[514liveinaghetto]

wiw u gotta do a full 90 degree turn just to make a 20 degre turn ur wheel is broken

[pl225]

its supossed to be realistic...

[t1dusj0sh]

your wheel is broken.

[schroeder1112]

wtf, where´s force feedback:-D, when i play this, i must really fight with my G25

[cncmasterw]

or its turned down >broken LOL

[TheNik7]

oh man... never cross your arms

[tupacfan4life]

agreed

[lolomen123]

why???

[geetarbube]

@TheNik7 race drivers cross their arms all the time, keeping both hands on the wheel...especially rally & F1....check out in car videos right here on YouTube

[1993gandy]

@TheNik7 thats only when in a real car they reason why you shouldnt have your arms crossed is because if the airbag goes off then you could break your face in a car without an airbag its ok

[Frienever]

dude, ur hand around the wheel sick, never do that. it look suck.

[TheFredz92]

Does it work with Xbox 360?

[youto6ko]

NO!

[blu1959]

are you using any force feedback on that wheel doesn't look like it

[ssgill]

1:53 is like a kung fu move with his arms and hands :)

[SuperCellsneek]

knap stuurwerk ..... ROFL

[tomfa2]

best lastig met zo'n stuur

[AnduRacE]

haha :)) omg

[mastaace604]

u kinda spin the wheel like a retard man, you should do hand over hand youll look less retarded

[Sapik13]

that's just I wanted to say

[geetarbube]

@mastaace604 real race cars have very little steering lock & don't require turning the wheel this much...this "900 degrees thing" is for street cars...race drivers don't perform "hand over hand"

[alex291190]

Steering help is on, So is stability control.. , you can tell by the way the wheel moves ingame , compared to his actual wheel.

[PlzBuffMe]

which game is this?

[tomfa2]

read pls gtr 2

[6669689]

damn i went to the store to buy it but they didnt have it :( hopefully i am getting it tomorrow :/

[6669689]

cmon 2 more days and i have this and btw where can i get a handbreak for g25 :)

[craigbrown07]

I to am expecting my g25 today, what games you guys gonna play on it, GT5, GTR evolution, LFS????

[6669689]

i am gonna play gt5 burnout paradise nfs undercover motorstorm 1/2 :)))

[startsem]

You really need to adjust the steering sensitivity. You are turning the wheel way too much for gentle corners.

[billigerfusel]

This man speaks the truth.

[6669689]

im getting mine on tuesday for 250 euros cant wait :D

[PGoD94]

Haha, I'll get mine just before you xD

[6669689]

lol :D

[snwboyz1]

Its a fucking simulation, calm your nuts.

[68965]

frist off you cant shift from 5th to 3rd at that speeds with out tearing something up in a real car! i kow i havea P.O.S. ford aspire and the trans. is about gone from just shifting from 5th to 3rd at only 35 to 30 mph!

[Girasole4ever]

you shift from 5 to 3...you idiot

[masterlooser15]

he also shift from the 6th to the 2nd

[snwboyz1]

why the fuck do you bend your arms? ...use arm over arm rotation dumbass

[tolishel]

u are the dumbass snwboyz1. if u new just a bit more about racing u wouldn't have said that.

[gumberly]

seriously....

[gulfam321]

can somebody tells me the price of this wheel.

[straigthsix]

299 in stores, can be had a little cheaper online

[dizi1997]

im gettin mine for £130

[wardy92]

use force feedback u pussy

[VancouverCanucksRock]

The guy turns the wheel shit loads, yet in the game the guy barely turns the wheel...

[PurePeace]

Please help!

I just bought the G25.

I've downloaded the demo version of GTR2 to test it on BUT the clutch and gearbox don't seem to work on the game!

- What do I do? Do I need to install something from the CD the G25 came with?

..Please help, because I don't know if I got sent a faulty one or I'm just missing something...

Thanks!

[JChan1026]

i wanna g25 but it's too expensive,

so i wanna ask,

is driving force pro or driving force GT better? ( 'cause both of them can be used in PC)

[ilyazippo]

I never used them, but as far as I know the G25 delivers the best experience around. Definitely worth the investment - has already provided me hours upon hours of sheer fun!

[keytek9]

momo is better

[shayminandreas456]

you are shit cause you cant buy it and you say the old is better shit shit shit you are shit

[burberrybedroom]

if ur on a budget get the DFGT mines just arrived from an upgrade from a dfp but i aint getting a g25 not until all my moneys sorted cos its all over the place atm.

[krazixgook]

WOW 100mph in 1st gear xD

[ilyazippo]

That's 100kph :)

[sunnysideup64]

It's KM/H

[Cheifslappuho12]

@krazixgook lol like a corvette could go 300 mph that easily.

[Grayqboufan]

@Cheifslappuho12 its in km/hr dude. come on now.

[Cheifslappuho12]

@Grayqboufan im aware of that, if you noticed i was telling another person that its not that easy for a corvette to get up to 300 mph so its obviously kph

[Grayqboufan]

@Cheifslappuho12 my bad dude.

[Grayqboufan]

@Cheifslappuho12 I didn't notice that, my bad!

[wdmeister]

every man with g25 on youtube can't drive :)

but video it's nice

[menage0]

haha agreed

[Techmaster05]

i also agree, locking ur arms like this dude is not good at all

[1spoonand2forks]

how come your steering wheel makes wierd noises when you turn it too fast?

[astrafan85]

nice vid.

[aktisti]

1- You should have calibrated you wheel. It looks pretty bad having to almost complete a whole turn on the wheel while the car in-game turns only a little bit.

2- You suck at racing. L2cornering.

[ilyazippo]

You guys continue to crack me up. Read up before commenting. Dumbfucks XD

[anonimo22648]

jotos ablen español

[guldahlrahmi]

I dont know if you have a drivers license, but if i saw you in a car, crossing arms like that i would chop your arms off :p. Sorry, just stop doing that, VERY bad habbit, (What if you needed to increase your steering radius even an inch more?

[ilyazippo]

How hard could it be for you to at least bother reading some of my comments bellow - I'm sure they'll explain everything you were complaining about...

[simobgbgbg]

NICE POINT THERE, MAN!?

[guldahlrahmi]

The reason that i mentioned it is the fact that this is just a game, no damage done, however if he makes this into a habit he would adopt this crossover steering into real life. And my self as a guy whom drive on the raceway, never execute crossover steering even there, its not required, BMW 320i E36. The thing is automatic wheel return, so steer into sharp turns without crossover and let the wheel flow, as you straighten up the car, no problem.

[simobgbgbg]

yes i understood u, my opinion is the same as yours!!! :)

[vatossan]

the manual,is it like in real life?

for example in real life,if u dont prees the clutch pedal u wont be able to change gears.

[ilyazippo]

Unfortunately not in this game - only thing is that the revs would sorta jump with a "painful" noise. However, in other games like TDU, you won't be able to change gears without pressing the clutch.

[ilyazippo]

Secondly, speaking of cross overs, while they're not exactly the best thing to do on public roads since they greatly minimize the turning ability of the vehicle; they can be quite useful on a race track when a large steering angle has to be achieved in minimum time. Besides, most race cars have much less degrees of steering rotation, resulting in a steering potential that can be exploited with great success using cross overs...

[ilyazippo]

Ok, time to resolve some issues.

First of all, my driving in the vid sorta sucks since I was still getting used to the G25 back then. I still had no experience with altering the steering lock/sensitivity or anything. Currently, I am able to set up the cars in the game much more effectively, resulting in much less hand cross overs.

[vvrzic]

Let me give an example with Corvette C5. The real life C5 has a 16.1:1 steering ratio, and 2.5 turns lock-to-lock. Since GTR2 limtis us to a maximum of 23.0 degrees of steering lock in car setup, we can set the lock-to-lock angle in the Logitech Profiler to 23*16.1*2 ~= 740 degrees, and use 23 degrees of steering lock in car setup.

Now, the C5-R, i think, has a shortened lock-to-lock angle of 1.3 turns, so you can use 468 degrees rotation, and (468/2) / 16.1 ~= 14.5 degrees of steering lock.

[FrancisBouillon51]

DAM WATCH AT 0:47 ! HE PASS OF THE 6TH GEAR TO THE 2nd GEAR ! WOW MAN!

[poupoule22]

I saw that too XD

[NuBs4Down]

hahaha n1 hand moves xD

crosswise driving ? We know all are on the begininng nubs in driving car, but crosswise xD

[RatmenKamikadze]

if you will drive like this and street cops will arrest you, because you cant put hands crosswise while you are steering!!!!! and you need bigger display like mine - 22", it is not so expensive only 130 Ls.

[pballer2005]

lol wut?

[RatmenKamikadze]

I said something wrong??? You are steering totally wrong, maybe in your country it is allowed, but in mine not.

[pballer2005]

unless you have the police going up to your window and look in your car while you are turning i don't know how they would be able to tell that you are doing it wrong

[RatmenKamikadze]

I dont know how old you are, but if you dont have driving license, with steering like this you wont complete driving exam!

[pballer2005]

i'm 22, i've had my license for almost 5 years. they will take a point of your exam for doing it, but no one is going to arrest us. it's probably different in the US than where you live

[kamilcrash]

r u changing gears without the clutch? I disabled auto Clutch and the gears change anyway without clutch. Maybe bec i hav the demo

[baguetteman69]

nope happens also on the full version, its a problem with gtr2

[mcin77]

you should disable the steering wheel and person - user config. looks pretty wierd, thats why I disabled mine

[matts417]

aww i want one... =(

[lereopl]

you is a shit

[juniorzato]

you need a 42" =)

[PiercedAnonymous]

I have that monitor. It owns.

[IXGQ4LifeXI]

u have to turn wheel too much for those turns.. need to increase sensitivity or something

[monosgeri]

But I'm not against you...

[RcGun00]

der hat viel zu wening feedback de rmuss ja kurbeln wie en sau :D

[monosgeri]

I see you've never driven real car. Maybe one day...

[yuna238]

y do u say that?? Is is because the way how he shift gears. I notice how he went from gear 5 to like gear 2 without even touching 3 and 4. In real cars, wouldnt that just screw the transmission over?

[monosgeri]

So you say that you never changed to 2nd from 4th or higher? It won't srew the gearbox if you slow down enough... But his whole drivin' technique wouldn't be doable in real life. Almost full wheel-turn at eau-rouge? Impossible...

[latuman]

You can adjust the amount of turn needed in games and in the wheels settings. Naturally, no more than 180 degrees of movement is needed in games of this type.

I dont think modern simulators take into account transmission speed when downshifting, so they dont penalize for too large downshifts. In real life of course getting to gear 2 from a speed of 60mph would be unhealthy for all parties.

[Joule413]

But isn't it possible to control that with the clutch? Use the downshifting to help with braking and use the clutch to "get off" the gear if the load becomes to much for the gearbox.

[latuman]

No, even if you normally press the clutch, you cannot move the gear in. I dont know technically what causes this, but there clearly is some safety measure so you couldnt accidentally engage too small gear.

[tiawatha]

have you driven a manual car in real life???of course you can skip gears when downshifting or upshifting..as long as you match the rpms your fine...have you ever heard of heel-toe??

[latuman]

Um, yea, I've always driven a manual. Yes, you can skip gears. I challenge you, do 60mph on fourth and shift down to second. Good luck.

Heel toe? First of all, that has nothing to do with this conversation, if you cant shift without heeltoe, you suck. Its a method used in completely different situations. Do you know what it is?

[tiawatha]

umm yes I can go from 4th gear at 60mph to 2nd gear...it matters on the fearing of the car...like i said if you match rpms its not a problem...and i bring up heel toe because it has everything to deal with this...reving it up to engine brake?? sounds like the same thing...maybe you should go around the block a few times in a manual to know what your talking about

[latuman]

First of all, apparently you drive cars with different gearboxes. I have not used FORCE to do it, and will not. It is apparent that the lever does not "want" to enter the slot.

I dont get to the RPM matching part, because the damn stick wont go where its supposed to!

Heel-toe means braking while applying acceleration AND pressing the clutch. I use the engine to brake in most situations. When possible, the engine is all that is needed, not the brakes, which is what heel-toe means.

[latuman]

I think this is why you cant engage gear with great speed differences.

"Until synchronization occurs, the teeth are prevented from making contact, because further motion of the selector is prevented by a blocker (or "baulk") ring. When synchronization occurs, friction on the blocker ring is relieved and it twists slightly, bringing into alignment certain grooves and notches that allow further passage of the selector which brings the teeth together."

Dont you just love wikipedia?

[ibytedk]

Your a bumb ass. Synchronization YES, what do you think happens when you blip the throttle?

If you knew anything of what you are talking about, you would know that a skilled driver would even be able to do 60mph in 4th and shift to 2nd even without using the clutch AND without any kind of force. As long as you match the revs of the engine with the revs needed for that speed in 2nd, the teeth will match speed and the gear will slip right in.

[latuman]

It just depends on the car. I've tried this many times and apparently non-synchro gear boxes are the only ones where this can be achieved.

[ibytedk]

no, you can even do it in a dump truck. since when you match the revs then gears ARE synchronized.

Anyway even if you use clutch and shift down through all gears, in a race car you still have to blip the throttle when releasing the clutch, otherwise the rear wheels lock up from the strong engine braking that these cars have and you end up spinning

[latuman]

Yes. I know. This is the point I'm trying to make; the gear will NOT go in even though you would match the gears (or it will take longer than I can be bothered to wait).

[Joule413]

Well, we can't really know that because we don't know how much wheel lock the guy has set the car up with. Also, the degrees of possible rotation on the wheel he's using isn't the same as the degrees of rotation on the virtual car's wheel.

[latuman]

Well the engine on that game is about the same as in rFactor, and in rFactor the visual steering wheel radius has nothing to do with how much the car actually turns. It always stays the same, only the effect changes.

[SkaterMainz]

ja hab ich net gewusst.

[SkaterMainz]

Ich erkenn jede STRECKE das ist bestimmt 100% =) Spa-Franco-Shamps

[eka094]

steht in der überschrift...

[MercSLRFan]

The gearbox is sequential.The driver reaches for the shifter only to push or pull it.Dunno why are you changing manually.

[ilyazippo]

Not being completely authentic doesn't hurt in my opinion. I'm personally more comfortable with using the H-pattern gearbox than the sequential one.

[ziper7]

"I'm personally more comfortable with using the H-pattern gearbox than the sequential one. " i think he sayd that xD

[MvP1292]

it's alot more fun that's why.

[chanrobi]

lol

[eSpringPellet]

What is the squeeky sound everytime you turn the steering wheel?

[ilyazippo]

I'm pretty that the sound is coming from the two motors inside the steering wheel which create the force feedback.

It really is not nearly as annoying as it may seem from the video.

[jrccaf]

can you use the fm gering?

[Phar2Rekliss]

doesnt the real C5r and C6r have paddle shifters instead??? I thought they dont use manual gear boxes in those racing models.

[ilyazippo]

Most (if not all) cars use sequential gearboxes. Most have normal up and down shifters and the others (like Ferrari) have paddle shifters. As you can see on the screen, the C5R utilizes a normal shifter, as the driver's hand goes down every time I shift gears.

Don't know about the C6R though...

[KillaJG11]

dude set your rotation to 240 for GTR2, its what the cars in it are set at (your hands will be moving with the computer hands like they should)

Question, why dont you have force feedback on?

[ilyazippo]

1) I use both 540 and 270 degrees in the game. In my opinion, 540 degrees of rotation are better for longer circuits like SPA and the Nordschleife, because of their large variety of different corners. This allows more precise car control in all those different corners.

2) Force feedback was and always is on.

[vvrzic]

The hands movement in GTR2 is very unrealistic. If you'd steer like that with the default car setup steering lock (15 deg), you'd get a steering ratio of about 8:1, which is maybe appropriate for a go-kart, but not for a GT car. Most of real-life GT cars have steering ratios somewhere between 14:1 and 16:1 (same steering racks like their street counterparts).

[BOBERT426]

same here

[0Apocalypse0]

COMPRO CARTERA FI? iaushaiuhsiuasiuhs

[ilyazippo]

Unfortunately I don't understand Spanish/Portuguese. If you want to tell me something try using English.

[wingman1213]

how much the steering wheel in english

[ilyazippo]

Do you mean pounds?

If you do, check out some local web stores shops or as prices may vary from place to place.

[pitbike2006]

£150

[chanrobi]

Hud... wut.

[mikepan10]

daz good stuff but check out my racing setup also man!

[manno5]

ohh sik sik thnx

[manno5]

oy man comment me n tell me how much was the Logitech G25? plz answer

[ilyazippo]

Well, here in Israel the price is about 1800NIS, which translates to around $500. (Yeah, everything is freakin' expensive round here...)

[killerjesse]

Pas mal la video et le G25 aussi ;)

par contre un petit réglage de course volant te ferait pas de mal je pense ;)