New Order - ICB

[ronaldvanderkleij]

No reason I was given.

[hyenarchie]

I've listened to this album from 1989 to 1992 every week! Cannot stand all the other NO album, but this one really sounds like Joy Division, with less suffering and despair maybe.

[MrFreakboy77]

A criminally underrated album, got this In early 1996 and I played it on repeat for at least a month! Personally, their worst album is Waiting For The Siren's Call, very poor for sonic architects.

[jmactemin]

HA HA, the argentinian band called sumo had a song called "divididos por la felicidad"(divided by joy), (joy division) which is exactly the same, but It had a different bridge, a sax, and more bass with an electronic drum kit

[JACPUNK]

Divididos por la felicidad - SUMO :P

[FMERQRY]

@JACPUNK Divididos por la felicidad fue grabada por luca a principios de noviembre del 81... que raro que se parezcan (esta se lanzo en nov 81) en esas epocas poco globalizadas es imposible que haya llegado a cordoba un cassette de esta banda tan "desconocida" en argentina... quiza se parecen porque estan inspiradas en joy division...

[spyoung777]

There are traces of Atrocity Exhibition in here.

[spyoung777]

@spyoung777 And Dead Souls

[dominique6259]

ICB,écrit en réaction aux graffitis écrit sur les murs de Manchester: Ian Curtis Alive..

[stellaviolens]

Sounds like anything from Closer but with a misfiring synth drum in the studio. Did Hannett produce this ? It's very tempting to switch it off !!!

[locomotifx]

Who cares what the initials stand for? I have loved this song for long enough without the question even seriously occurring for me. Do they seem like a band - did JD ever - seem like a band who cared that much about personalities?

[kidcresh]

@locomotifx More genius insight from a true JD fan, thank you for your remarlks!!!! Funny, I had a mix tape on that had Age of Consent and Love Will Tear Us aApart, and I was struck happily by the similarity!!!! Sadly, without Hannett, New Order drifted into nowhere, but hey, considering Movement, small surprise. Hear JD demos sans Hannett and wince at the difference between Atmosphere studio release and Atmosphere demo, etcccccc! Hannett, on top of the New Wave

[handsomedevil98]

@kidcresh Hannett was a genius! everthing he produced was magic even Happy Mondays Bummed album! & its their best!! only thing I did't get what he did was the early stone roses songs!! which are still legandry maybe he was going for a live feel! but New order did make good albums without him up to 1989 IMO!! R.I.P Ian Curtis, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, & Tony Wilson!

[whoah1988]

Looks like the Bassline from Dead Souls.

Anyway, great song. Love this album

[dermot51]

spot on  ... "souls" it is

[DallyWhitty]

I think the guitars should have not been so downplayed given this is the most upbeat track on the album behind Dreams Never End, but otherwise I can't fault it. This was initially my least favourite of the eight songs on Movement, but I've since come to love it. Who else listens to the live versions and misses the sonar bleep that grows in intensity through the song before fading into the distance?

[alexisarditti]

i would like to invite everyone to see the song "dividos por la felicidad" by sumo. i hope you enjoy this fucking version that is sure based on this song.write your opinions

[clownsandjugglers]

This is reminiscent of the Joy Division song Dead Souls. I'm probably not the first person to notice that.

[dermot51]

@clownsandjugglers its more or less the same bass line as "souls" then again who the fuck is gonna sue them

[kabob32]

Thank you- Blue :)

[BabylonAGoGo]

We miss you Ian.

[boardy777777]

@BabylonAGoGo he died to soon i miss him aswell thanx !!!

[AFBrat77]

Movement was an amazing album, very underrated.

This and Power, Corruption, and Lies are brilliant.

This is pretty much the 3rd JD album, although a hint of NO's future makes this a fascinating mix of both.

[boardy777777]

best new order album ,because it sounds like joy division !!

[MisAnnThorpe]

@boardy777777 Nonsense, Brotherhood is New Order's best album. Particularly if you listen to it on your computer with the sound turned right down, whilst Closer is playing at extreme volume on your stereo. Give it a try, I defy you to disagree with me. Another little tip for gratis, actually remove Brotherhood from its cover and replace it with Closer or anything else for that matter. This works equally well with all formats, I've found.

[boardy777777]

@MisAnnThorpe brotherhood is shite , no joy division ,new order are shite without ians influnce !!!

[MisAnnThorpe]

@boardy777777 How very dare you! Have you never heard the incredible Shellshock? Undoubtedly the best Stock, Aitken & Waterman produced record never made. A little known New Order story; the band contacted Ian Curtis via an ouija board, seeking his approval (which he gave 100%) for the recording of World In Motion. When the track was completed they contacted him again & he said & I quote verbatim; "Fuck, I wish I was still alive so I could have done the John Barnes rapped part." I kid you not!

[boardy777777]

@MisAnnThorpe i like you !! but your full of s..te darlin .joy division are the soul of new order and thats it , ians legacy is movement nothin else !!!

[MisAnnThorpe]

@boardy777777 Feel I should perhaps mention at this point that no one outside of the band has been able to corroborate this story. In fact the usually very approachable & erudite Peter Hook himself, when I tried to broach this subject with him, appeared to become visibly upset & said to me "Fuck off you can't......" Alas I was unable to catch the last part of the sentence, although he did catch my jaw with a left hook (pun(ch) intended, on his part anyway). Probably had a bad day at the Factory.

[VeracityProductions]

@boardy777777 I always hear people say this, but Ian responded to a Warsaw ad for vocalist and initially Ian just did regular sounding punk vocals. Yes he contributed to the band's movement into a different sound, but most of that sound is thanks to Stephen morris' electronic / dance drum which serves a spine for their style. Then there's Peter hook's catchy, unconventional, and sometimes simple bass lines. And Sumner wrote a lot of these songs so no Ian Curtis was not the foundation of the band

[carl66688]

@VeracityProductions who the fuck wrote the songs and the lyrics?bernie whas the guitarist  know your facts 1st

[carl66688]

@carl66688 and whos martin hanett

[dermot51]

@carl66688 hes a comedian mate with a severe smack habit

[dermot51]

@MisAnnThorpe Honey you a twat shut your moronic beak and fuck off back to your"UNI" in which you failed your final exams your not clever and your not fuckin amusing

[orourkeda]

@boardy777777 I agree. I never could quite fathom some of the criticism. There are some great tracks on this album

[goatboy91587]

@AFBrat77 I agree. I really do think this is a 3rd JD album.

My other favorite is Low Life.

Great to see that a lot of people also notice the JD sound. Very awesome.

[laureyss]

ICB means: Ian Curtis barried. RIP IAN

[weta2000nz]

@wharton12...well, I agree with you entirely,but come on dude, "don't be hatin..."

[weta2000nz]

This is a well cool song. There first album (Movement) was unfairly dissed I think.

[filtro6]

The only good NO album, as it was essentially JD material

[casiotone1331]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

[SebastianSolorzano]

@filtro6 Not by far the ONLY good New Order album. Close to the best, yet not the ONLY.

[indietone14]

i disliked control

[nikito370]

New Order / Joy Division = Best Bands Ever in History of music. This song is great!!

[derpestarzt]

LOL, I bet you just finnished watching "control", stupid fuck....go back to emoland.

[TheJokerIsDead]

hey man r u a new order fan? or jd fan? why do u rag on someone who enjoys there music? if not why do u comment on here? dont get all pissy just a ?

[derpestarzt]

I like both J.D & N.O, but I dont masturbate at Ian Curtis wedding photos, & you're the kind of retard that loves to go on about how great I.C & J.D are just coz you were told it makes sound "smart", you probably found out about joy division either by the movie (that inmense turd "control") or cos some of those talentless bands from these days(the killers, the editors...everyone sporting retarded hair ,guitars & token synths) made a cover version and/or mentioned J.D as musical influence.

[TheJokerIsDead]

Sorry man Ive been hearing New Order & Joy Division since 1991 but since u mention I guess ur the one who listen to these crappy bands. Thanks for letting the world know what u like hearing. :)

[derpestarzt]

Well done, spastastic reply.

[TheJokerIsDead]

LOL! well done..

[TheJokerIsDead]

I really dont care you know..so continue with your comments thats why there here for..

[shadowkunt]

r u retarded?

[9ertsch]

Best track on Movement. The letters ICB stand for the semi cod Latin: 'In camera busillis' (roughly: 'chamber of the enigma').

[9ertsch]

Or more accurately: 'within the chamber of the enigma.'

[Stube437]

@9ertsch how do you know?

[cosmicrider287]

the r2d2 version!

[ohadrean]

Ian Curtis Buried.

[derpestarzt]

what are you talking about fuckwad, this song was entirely composed after I.C was dead and buried, Its Bernard Sumner who mostly accounts for this song greatness, of course he is not half as cool, he is more like your ordinary english chav with some gay manners.

[attatat]

E' la canzone che preferisco in assoluto dei new order.. voglia di superare e tristezza fusi in un motivo etereo

[weirdalfan1980]

That cheesy synth reminds me of Joy Division Insight. Like playing pacman, thos pacman sounds. Or classic early 80;'s arcade games.

[Andres21479]

This album is so enigmatic, this doesn´t have booklet info.

[bissia]

Now define dark bunch of nitwits. 'Dark' was the adjective used by people who didn't grasp such music. Dark what? Blue? Clean? Neat? Emotional? Deep?

Listen to the music and its emotion, instead of over using that 'oh gee it's dark'

[vici0usl0u]

Ian Curtis Buried. R.I.P to the most amazing artist of his kind. Ian Curtis - true legend

[no1kingofconvenience]

18 of may and this was his future

[ady10001]

He cheated on his wife and kid and faked the epilepsy.

[boardy777777]

i would stay out of manchester amigo

[shadowkunt]

why the fuck would i want to go to Manchester?  lol

[zhivago1970]

@vici0usl0u It's Ian Curis BEREAVED...

[belljg]

@zhivago1970 ITS Ian Curtis BURIED... retard

[youwinoneinternets]

Such an amazing song. If the sound of the future happened in 1981, no wonder we're starved for the sound of our times now :)

[ghosttroop]

This whole album is so awesome. I am not ashamed of admitting that New Order was my favourite music of the 80's. It was so ahead of it's time - that's why it's so easy to listen to now. Great videos champ!

[youwinoneinternets]

yeah songs like ceremony and of course blue monday itself, they could be released new today and no one would see it as outdated. Infact I'd even say they sound more modern than some of the most popular artists atm

[ghosttroop]

Good on you, YouWInOneInternets! Cheers for agreeing. Glad to hear that from someone else, as i am bias. YouTube has made it easy to get some great New Order music ... even un-released stuff. Awesome!! ;)

[cman7142000]

top 4 of there albums..

[sas556]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but dosnt this song stand for "ian curtis buried", which i think represents this transition period before new order got to mainly 4 on the floor dance tracks.

[serial841]

you are indeed correct. my friend took his last breath!

[casiotone1331]

@sas556 I.C.B. Stands for "Ian Curtis Bereaved".

[Stube437]

@casiotone1331 is that a fact or a guess? I used to think that when i first got int o them but even then wehn i was y oung it sounded too obvious.

[EVANDROSAMPAIO]

Hail to new order, awesome band

[kams1001]

Well done to whoever found this gem of a track. One of my favourites... love the dark, brooding sound of the transition from Joy Division to New Order.