Vista vs Ubuntu - boot to login time race

[MrClrg]

Linux is not unfriendly, it just chooses his friends carefully.

[Falador321]

actually for vista being released before ubuntu 8.10 it's not slow lol

[pat20105]

I have hp 530 with ubuntu and windows 7

[newtubetubetube]

What matter is what you can do once it has booted. There is not much you can do with this Micro-Soft system out of the box. But i am not a fair judge, to be honest i never liked the Micro-Soft system. This DOS thing was such a failure. That shit wouldn't do anything right. I doubt 30 years is enough for Micro-Soft to fix their shitty OS.

[blogJM]

Linux - for people who have knowledge on programming or willing to learn.

[newtubetubetube]

@blogJM said "Linux - for people who have knowledge on programming or willing to learn."

What did you expect? Using a computer require skills. Now, if you only care about using application of a computer(eg: Application are tools written by computer user) that a other story. There is plenty of idiot proof desktop environment for Linux that let you mindlessly send mail, and masturbate to Internet pornography. Ubuntu is a good example, try it out. No skills are required.

[SonyFan1260]

My ubuntu 10.10 boots in 7 seconds and it's a 1.67 GHz, 1012 MB RAM, i586 (not AMD64) HP Mini Netbook!

[VadimPVO]

vista = windows 7

[mattster51]

wats rong wit da screen on da 1 on da left? it gets brighter evry second on da startup screen

[krye97]

my ubuntu 11.04 boots in 10 seconds!

[bennyc500949]

windows xp boots slower than ubuntu for me

windows is running on a pc i bougth 2010

and ubuntu on a old scaleo 600 i bough around 2002

[lasha222]

this is very slow ubuntu boot, it boots in matter of like 5 seconds on my compy after OS is released

[IVANOFVOCHITO88]

Me quedo con el Ubuntu, más rápido y sin fallas

[ViCEOneTwo]

low camera ... bad X/

[uploader251]

ubuntu rocks the whole world !!!!!! well tell me how can I play call of duty on it

just start rocking world from here if u can

Ubuntu is like a baby girl dancing and jumping in her pink frock around windows I m not biased I have just expressed my needs MY institute ICAP tests me in office 2010 and I have not seen it in ubuntu

[sabombardonist]

@uploader251 For gaming, Linux does kind of suck. I mean, there is Wine and the PlayOnLinux frontend, but that can only get you so far. As far as Ubuntu being a "baby girl dancing and jumping in her pink frock around windows," I have this much to say: Ubuntu made Linux well known. It isn't an ineffectual name, or an ineffectual idea. While I doubt Linux, or the Ubuntu distro will ever take over Windows, it does provide one very important thing: the ability to choose what you want.

[uploader251]

@sabombardonist

I have tried ubuntu 10.10 on my pc It had no problem finding dirvers for my sound card and gpu and one thing I must agree is that Ubuntu can win if it is only eyecandy I could move a running window like if it was A towell or a cloth a similar thing as Physx floating effects but the only thing linux will take some time to be known as "stable office OS" by that comment of girl in frock

I meant to say U have to change it like mood of that little girl

[uploader251]

@sabombardonist

And I respect those who use challenging things , I tried to keep it in multiboot but could not get past boot screen though 8.04 worked fine with windows 7

but I was too busy to follow any thing to that ISsue in 10.10

[sabombardonist]

@uploader251 Well, Ubuntu has LTS OS's that last 2 years. I call that pretty stable. But it is constantly changing.

[uploader251]

@sabombardonist

so will 10.04 lts last for 2 years and what will I loose as compared to 10.10

[sabombardonist]

@uploader251 I don't really know, to be honest. I skipped 10.04, due to the lack of hardware drivers.

[SkullXII]

Windows 7 owns 'em both. 40 seconds and I'm booting Firefox.

[aStupidTroll]

@SkullXII do you have the same PC ? (i mean imp0cat's ones) if not , that's a dumb comment

[SkullXII]

@aStupidTroll My specs are identical, and I multiboot Ubuntu and Windows 7.

Shut up and ask for clarification next time before you accuse someone of being stupid, because making accusations without evidence is one of the dumbest things you can do.

[sabombardonist]

@SkullXII My questions are what version of Ubuntu are you running, what programs do you have installed on Ubuntu, how much swap you gave it, and the same for Windows 7, minus the swap.

[FLSanimation]

every OS beats vista

[MrTweety2707]

Vista rocks i use vista home premium

[Zuul47]

@MrTweety2707 vista sucks!!!!

[MrTweety2707]

@Zuul47 Yes i dared this and Installed XP Pro because XP pro rocks

[OSyTim]

that was the slowest version of Ubuntu to Boot on record

all other Ubuntu's since then made booting faster

it now boots 4 times faster than that

[Zuul47]

@OSyTim

very true....Ubuntu 10.04 loads up in about 30 seconds...while Vista is still 50 seconds

[Baldoxxx4000]

Ubuntu's for retards...

[lakeb0dom]

@Baldoxxx4000 Why?

[xshadowspherex]

@Baldoxxx4000 Ubuntu is for people who know how to use computers.

:)

[cgiusr]

Muhaha i have made a Hackintosh out of a friends HP550, and it boots up in 30 secs with a single core CPU, :-) watch?v= 7Gw8OFmg_vM

[Flamesandfire666]

my toshiba is 3 years old and is super fast becoz i no how to take care of computers, kubuntu takes 8 seconds to load and (window pre-realese it still works!) windows 7 takes 15 seconds to load by load i mean log in aswell

[MijnNaamIsNL]

Apple the best

[DjTransilvania]

try Windows 7, you will get sick until

opens

try it

: D

[boogiebuddy01]

whats the best operating system? for video

[sharkoer]

ubuntu is better than windows, the windows sucks (junk) Ubuntu always be above windows

[Mryouareretarded]

Suck balls you fag without microsoft there would not even be ubuntu you fag

[neojames11]

@Mryouareretarded Umm wrong, wrong and wrong.

[ffelix8]

M$ has nothing to do with unix

[UltimatePisman]

@ ffelix8:

It has.

Wikipedia it up for the very first OS from M$.

It was Unix based!

See Xenix.

[ffelix8]

M$ didn't make unix. unix made M$

[UltimatePisman]

I didn't say they made Unix, but a Unix based system.

Read better.

[ffelix8]

i understood you . i'm just saying that they didn't but Mryouareretarded said they did

[UltimatePisman]

Oh, I see.

[nathan8BIT]

@Mryouareretarded Bullshit alarm! Unix came before Windows, GNU/Linux was based upon Unix. Without Unix there would be no Ubuntu, so you sir are wrong if you think without microsoft there would be no Ubuntu.

[bogoid]

Is funny to see all the linux nerds pissed by this video

haha.

Really, a good linux distro is slackware, suse, or whatever but not ubuntu.

[adamnew123456]

Agree'd.

Except for the openSUSE part. It's the SLOOOOOWEST bootup time I've ever seen.

[Mryouareretarded]

you are fagzor

[sharkoer]

mis huevos pendejo eres una cagada al igual que el windows jaja

[bogoid]

@Mryouareretarded

Ubuntard

[nathan8BIT]

@bogoid I agree with you there my friend! Slackware is amazing

[nathan8BIT]

why does everybody like ubuntu!? It sucks! It is the linux equivelant to vista; it is bulky, slow as shit and build for noobs. If you really want to test a linux distro use a real distro like slackware or gentoo.

[Unclesamslair]

Because some of us want the security of a unix based system without the price of a mac that "just works" without having to learn how to use a fucking terminal.

[shuffleharddance]

i onllike ubuntu bcuse of the live cd

[nathan8BIT]

@shuffleharddance Well then stop using ubuntu because there are TONS of better distros that have live CD support

[KumazSakuya]

OMG draw XD

[Traenan]

Test is biased and therefore obsolete.

Microsoft Windows Vista was available for retail on 2007-1-30, with the RTM being released 2006-10-8.

Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex - R: 2008-10-30) is not from the same general release date as Vista.

I would have suggested Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft - R: 2006-10-26) to compare to if it was the RTM, or Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn - R: 2007-04-19) for the retail version of vista.

We also have no proof that you haven't updated one, and left the other outdated.

[imp0cat]

With both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 out now, the test is obviously outdated.

As for the rest of your comment, both systems had all the available patches installed and identical hardware was used. I'd hardly call that biased.

[Traenan]

@imp0cat ah, but it is. Not to mention drivers as well. The operating systems aren't as near as possible in terms of release date, not to mention possible configuration settings with programs that could be interfering with boot time.

[Burgattti]

@imp0cat mate ive got this laptop with 1.4ghz and 2gb of ram, and currently is on vista but thinking of clean instaling it to win 7 would i have any problems with win 7 or will it be better many thanks!

[imp0cat]

@Burgattti I haven't actually bothered to upgrade to Windows 7 yet, so I can't really tell. I think Windows 7 should be faster than Vista, (assuming you can find all the drivers).

[Burgattti]

@imp0cat ok thanks for your time

[Xludo73GoEco]

@Burgattti I'd rather say install a version of Linux. Most preferably openSUSE, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Mandriva, Debian, Ubuntu but there are many others as well, each with their own features, Linux is completely easy to install and for free. All you need is a rewritable disk or a floppy disk or a USB. Great in speed and reliability. Even though you can't use windows programs directly on Linux, there are some linux programs that allow use of Windows programs too! :D

[alphamalemindreaper]

@imp0cat sadly obsolete vista is buisness technicaly not gameing pc also it states that the vista is for work and not for gaming so its no duh that vista would work slower on boot up and windows 7 is worse then vista either way it doesent mattter if you want to test anything try the gameing vista and use a dimension you will never want to switch computers again

[ubuntututorials]

@Traenan Whilst this test may be obsolete, Ubuntu is still faster than Windows in most cases (check out all the other videos).

[Traenan]

@ubuntututorials I agree entirely. Long live Ubuntu!

[OSyTim]

@Traenan

yeah its 2 years old now

[alheadbme]

I'm a little disappointed that you stopped at login screens. I find that logging into Windows and having the computer get up to speed takes significantly longer than Ubuntu. For comparing my own boot times, I always measure the time it takes to boot and to have a browser open and ready to do a search.

[pkhamidar2com]

only problem with ubuntu is that it has bad compateblity with many programs that i would use on xp

[librano]

rather than using the same programs that are only available for Windows, you could try to look for alternative applications for Linux. There are many and they work very well.

[neojames11]

@pkhamidar2com You can wine them as well, I have some programs which I used to use on wine.

[ubuntupokemoninc]

ubuntu rocks the world!,

[valvetrailers]

windows vista =best

windows7=pawnage

[frestylezz]

O_O OMG are you serious? windows vista is proved to be slower then windows 7. If u think vista is better then u'r dumb!

[J0RDSKI]

ubuntu is tons better than vista but not windows 7.

[webrad98]

windows 7's still a virus magnet that you pay for.  Save your money

[2882890]

9.04 is a big improvement in boot times, we're talking knocking about 10 to 12 seconds off that boot time.

[librano]

9.10 is even faster! Although I normally don't care much for boot times... because Linux hardly ever needs rebooting, I was really impressed by 9.10.

[munnu1975]

Ubuntu is faster anytime. I have used vista and mac 10. Haven't tried Windows 7 tho but people who played with the beta version say it is as fast as Ubuntu Jaunty Jackelope. Maybe by the time it comes out Ubuntu Karmic Koala will be faster.

[razor005]

Wow pretty close. Im personally thinking of making a live CD of Ubuntu and trying it out and then I may jump to Dual Booting my PC.

[quietpopcorn]

Damn dude. 35 seconds for Ubuntu to boot? My computer is almost 3 years old & it takes 20 from the time I hit the power button. What daemons are bogging your system down?

[nycrc]

windows vista is better an ubuntu becuase it is not difficult to use unlike linux and you can do more stuff on windows and vista rocks but mac snow leapord is better

[commanderBoreale]

that's the fuk'n reason dumbass! linux is specialy made to be user-unfriendly cause it has so many functions! vista is easy cause it doesn't have anything!

[AlexMandrakemaker]

@commanderBoreale yeah in according with you , with windows we´ve found announces, marketing. "unexpected windows", etc. and in Ubuntu is your friend Linux we make it all, get forget of VIRUSES SPYWARE MALWARE WE DON¨T WANT IT AND WE MAKE LINUX; EEHH YOU WINDOWS USER JUST YOU PAY ANTIVIRUSES AND YOU WHO USE WINDOWS, WHO YOU BELIEVE WHO MAKE THE VIRUSES AAHHHH??? WEEEEEEE????? 

[jonasmh09]

@commanderBoreale yeah my vista suck so much that it DELETED ITSELF!

[pmgodfrey]

- @ nycrc -

Really... You really believe that?

Linux is easy - even for someone who hasn't used a computer before.

Why pay $250 for Vista, $400 for Office, $650 for Photoshop when all of that is INCLUDED with the Ubuntu release?

You can ALSO run VMware on your linux box and run almost any windows program. Vista blows and so does windows 7.

[pmgodfrey]

- @ nycrc -

Also forgot to add in my previous comment.

If you don't like the way Linux does something or you want it to do something it can't already do - you make changes and recompile it. Can you do that with Windows? No... Microsoft is not a open source.

What's running on your router or firewall? Windows? No...it's most likely linux.

What does Apple use? BSD Linux with their own GUI built on top of it.

[teoyaomiqui]

Pretty close... would the prices be so tightly near to one another?

[commanderBoreale]

ubuntu is free.. you can download it or you can request a FREE ubuntu cd with FREE p&p and FREE delivery and it takes FREELY up to 2 months...

[nnr3]

How come your vista is THAT slow????

I timed my vista-powered laptop-

* 50 sec. from BIOS start-up to FULLY functional desktop

* 34 sec. from BIOS start-up to Log-on screen

[HardstyleMatt]

But what about the 2nd stage ?

yeah they was close there.

But log in and do the same, Ubuntu loads in literally 3 seconds

Vista will go like a snail

lol

[GrassH0pper55]

very close though i half expected Ubuntu to win given all the complaints against Vista (if the tone in this is indicating that i think Vista won, that's not the case i know Ubuntu won)

[brandonman94]

Wow. I'm surprised they tied. I bet that if he had gone all the way to starting a program, ubuntu would have won by a mile. Vista may get to the login a bit faster, but it takes much longer afterwards to get started, whereas once you login on ubuntu, you are pretty much there. (I dual-boot, so don't call me a fanboy. ;)

[nintendofanbeatles]

That wasn't a tie, it was really close, but ubuntu won. But uber close.

[onyxone144]

All this stupid arguing over an operations system. Please, grow up.

[PrinceOfPersia1996]

Wow. I think if you don't believe the operating system you use is important, you need to grow up. Your probably a mac...

[prototypepacifist]

Even mac users know the operating system they use is important.

Its 85% of the windows users that have no clue that all of the computer problems they are having stem from a crap operating system.

[chewyourfingers]

Fucking fags arguing, grow up. Who the fuck cares what os is better, as long as it gets the job done, all of these operating systems are good at certain things better than the other.

[hugestomper]

How to grow up?

[i0rok0rs]

this is why most game systems use the all powerful linux operating system: fast booting, light-weight (uses very little ram) very efficient with graphics/ram/cpu, its reliable/doesnt crash unless theres a serious flaw with a program, works faster then windows or apple... the only bad things i have noticed about it are that its not what i would really call user-friendly, and when it crashes, which is rare, it usually crashes to the point that you have to manually shut it down... overall it roks

[nelfer19]

Try with the new Ubuntu, 9.04.. it's way faster! It will beat Vista for sure!

[cyberjackcyberjack]

it was close, but it did look like Vista won !! as the logon screen was displayd first.

[grandmastgarth]

NO UBUNTU, ARCH linux, MAC, all suck i've tried them all i had downloaded suckie UBUNTU on my acer aspire 3624 laptop and i HAD a mac that me aunt bought me (I SOLD IT HEHE) Ubuntu was terrible when you install it its not better than windows and its not good you cant do anything and wine is slow! and when i tried my mac it was very unstable, mac told my poor aunt that bullshit she knew i was into computers but I HATE MACS and you could do nothing

--WINDOWS-- YOU CAN DO ANYTHING GAMES/WORK/STABL

[grandmastgarth]

well i havn't tried arch linux but its linux regardless so i think it sucks

[DeadiTech]

windows was the MOST unstable OS of all time...linux is fast and wtf wine ain't slow...ur f*cked up

[grandmastgarth]

ah shut your bitch ass mouth up and yes wine is slow and bitch Linux is not stable

[DeadiTech]

ever figure its ur shitty ass wanna-be pc? cuz linux runs VERY smoothly and lag-free on my pc...that includes wine...it actually runs faster and loads faster...and to tell u the truth...Linux is more stable than windows...don't try and beat the owner of a tech site about pc's...

[grandmastgarth]

Nope Bitch i don't. because my computer isn't shitty. No linux is not more stable than windows.

and i don't give a fuck if your the owner of anything bitch, you owning something doesn't mean shit.

[DeadiTech]

umm yes it is...DOS is more stable than Windows right now dipshit

[DeadiTech]

u just admitted that I owned u and its true..everything I said is true...and im using windows actually...I own XP, Vista, 7 Beta and Linux...which is y I know what im talkin about I actually testin and compared...Windows is for noobs...linux for pros...

[grandmastgarth]

No you stupid bitch you said you owned a tech site dumb bitch, No and that makes you sound very very stupid when you say windows is for noobs and linux is for pros, who says that, what are you no no no how old are you, you little ass kid you are a liar, go back to your mom and cry you little bitch

[DeadiTech]

a liar, I didn't lie about anything dipshit, everything I said is true...ur just a sad little 12 year old boy whos defendin Windows cuz u can't handle Linux :)

[grandmastgarth]

No Linux can't handle me, i open up firefox crash, try to install something ??? puzzled, Ubuntu should came with a damn user manual bitch, and No I am simply saying that windows is better, So go and cry to you damn mom you little bitch

[DeadiTech]

haha rly? after all this time of using Linux...it has NEVER crashed once...on the other hand...Windows = BSoD

[pookie413413]

Windows is idiot proof lol

[LegoAir]

guys dont u get it ur like 2-year old babies

[DarkRage4]

Ubuntu is the most popular Linux distribution and there's a reason for it :) Ubuntu FTW!

[nerfmasters101]

what does FTW stand for?

[dummy0123456789]

for the win

[DeadiTech]

for the world/win

[KvinAlc18]

lol

Vista will never boot the same after the first month,

Trust me,, I HAD Vista.. : )

[Fat9090]

Yeah quarter mile sprint...

And i want to see 7 second OS

[fuckinashol]

9.04 are a bit faster at booting

[theJojan]

Yes. My computer booted about 25 seconds faster after an the upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10. I installed ext4 on my laptop and it feels alot faster, even if I didn't make a comparison there. But from GRUB to login screen it takes 27 seconds.

[fuckinashol]

really?

i need about 1 min on 8.1 and 45 secs on 9.04 but im using ext3 on a 2.5 dual core lap.

i think i ll have a try on ext4

[weeman7007]

try an ssd too =p from grub to desktop in 24 secs.... 2ghz duo core laptop with 2gb ram 30gb ssd and 320gb hdd. used to be like 40 seconds, although I do have auto-login but thats cos I have set a hard drive password in the BIOS

[footo9000]

UBUNTU RULEZ!!! every new edition is Faster !

[Damatelon]

Debian Rulez too

[libed91]

Ubuntu can eat my shit and vista can suck my balls, ARCH linux RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

[mynameinc]

VISTA GOT PWND!

[ProGamer1508]

PWND BE UBUNTU!

[mynameinc]

Never tried Ubuntu, have you, Padawan?

[libed91]

GENTOO PWNED both.

[lonelyvampire21]

many ppl think "the cursor appears first" but when ubuntu logs in, its ready to any task beside the larger an almost infinite programs loader ....

[dogsmods]

Ubuntu is faster as vista is not booted at that point it almost there like its windows b4 it once you go past the log in screen you still have to w8 for every thing else to load in on ubuntu u put ur screen name in its done ready to use no mouse with hour glass rotating

[smarty8975]

it is like that. ;) it looks like vista is the winner but the real is ubuntu.because if the test took longer nad he put his password and name in ubuntu and vista and at the same time pressed enter ubuntu will be ready

[lonelyvampire21]

try booting ubuntu with the new format ... ext4

=P

ubuntu wins!

[calrogman]

Never mind Ext4 justtry the new Ubuntu, it'll win. You could run it on Ext2 and it would still win. It could probably win running from FAT.

[ne0ngeek]

who cares about a few seconds i say they tied

[Jarige2]

They aren't tied. In Windows you'll have to wait after you've logged in. In Ubuntu, you can use the computer straight after loggin.

And btw, Ubuntu 9.04 has faster boot then Ubuntu 8.10 (which is used here)

[fantomfeltpen]

thats cheap, ubuntu is using the grub menu/ boot loader thats why it lost. if you dissable that, you boot 4 seconds shorter... have it boot directly to ubuntu instead of through the boot loader

[saint1997]

YAY Windows won! You can tell coz the Vista cursor came up before Ubuntu!

[djtheextremegamerpro]

That's For The Cursor. Linux Login Showed First And With Windows You Have To Wait For Everything To Load Before Doing Anything

[saint1997]

Windows finished first, the startup sound came before, and so did the screen. You saw the logo, and THEN came Ubuntu.

[PowerMacUser]

yay for ubuntu, the newest ubuntu is supposed to have faster boot times. =]

[Tinfoilpain]

I think ubuntu won because of that 8 second timer it always has to ender grub menu. the actual loading time is much shorter

[newsboysrock11]

who won

[imp0cat]

The Ubuntu machine was faster, but the difference is negligible. You can see the Ubuntu login prompt appear merely a fraction of second before the Vista login prompt.

The Grub timer is only a few seconds long (at 0:16-0:19 in the video).

[fantomfeltpen]

still... you can set it to zero seconds and that would save you 3 seconds :) making UBUNTU BETTER!!!!

[thorzo90]

close one

[themaritimeman]

That was pretty close! You should have logged them both on, though. That's where the differences would probably start.

[meoblast001]

I like the video but like Runner50783 said, I used to have XP and it got from power button to login screen faster than my Ubuntu install does. The difference is that I get into a usable desktop on Ubuntu in 30 seconds where it took me approximately 7 minutes on XP.

[imp0cat]

I have been thinking about this. In Vista the desktop shows up just a few seconds after the password is entered, but the system still loads additional programs for a good minute or so and isn't very responsive. You can see the empty tray getting populated with icons of said programs. In Ubuntu, it takes a a bit longer before the desktop appears, but as you said, it is immediately usable. I guess I will have to redo the video eventually (with concurrent booting enabled in Ubuntu :)).

[warty4ev3r]

In addition, applications will perform differently for different Operating systems. Therefore, you cant get any "perfect" winner [same system specs but different drivers and such]

This was a cool vid o_O 5stars

[Runner50783]

Good comparison, how ever, you should have included the desktop start-up times, that's where you really see a difference.