If to watch at this battle from a tactic view, ofcourse french troops won that battle - they taked all russian positions. But if to look at this from stategical point, Napoleon throw all his power and resources to destroy russian army - but he was can't do it. So, after Borodino french army got a deadly wound and slow began to duying, from every day number of french soliers was smaller.
Napoleon entered Russia in the head about 900 000 men, the biggest army of every time!
This army was too compact and very hard to make maneuver (except for for napoleon). Napoleon did not look even any more for the strategy, he sent this mass to head-on attack, anyway he knew that he was victorious even if he underwent colossal losses.... We distinguish military engineering of napoleon that when he has a small army against an opponent three times as numerous too my English is crap^^
It wasn't 900 000, but 600 000 French soldiers commanded by Napoléon, who invaded Russia in 1812 ( Because of the break of the Treaty of Tilsit by the Czar). It's rigth that for every people at t he moment, it was the biggest army ever seen in human history . For the rest of your comment, it's just, the Russian territory was too important: the classical Napoléon's maneuvrers became impracticable.
Here is a consideration in terms of linear tactics in the era of the Civil War, Franco Prussian War, and WWI that I think is too often overlooked, communications. Keeping soldiers in close order gave commanders some control through voice commands. You will notice that the development of modern combined small unit tactics pretty much coincides with development of radio and telephone communications, where you can keep in close contact over larger areas, gathering information and giving orders.
skyfrank that would be incorrect the union troops for the most part , were armed with the 58 caliber british enfield. only a few infantry had the breechloading rifles and or the repeaters.the confederates lost at gettysbrug for a number of reasons most importantly was that jackson was gone and longstreet just couldnt fill the void..a great fighter though he was regards come back
not right at gettysburg...union infantry still used the muzzle loading musket...what you are referring to, i believe, is the union cavalry of buford who had single shot breech loaders..the south lost at gettysburg for many reasons..not the lest is that lee's performance was not up to his previous campaigns..
Hello France!! Am from Cyprus and I admit that I loveeee Napoleon to hell! We are studying Napoleonic Wars in history now from the very beginning till the hundred days and so on but i think that Borodino was on 7September no 4 am not sure
I'm an American Civil War re-enactor and during the American Civil War we (the Americans) used Napolionic Tactics because we liked the way it worked, but unfortunately by the 1860's our weapons were just simpley too far advanced and the tactics were too old for it, and many young men died =[
At the Somme, British commanders used the same tactics, as they tought they battered the German lines after an very long barrage, some officers even forbade running. Just marching into enemy lines. But it did'nt work, and in the first hour of the attack there were already 30.000 deads an wounded. In history of the fireweapon many men were killed by stupid old tactics because of the commanders were not able to keep up with the advancing technics.
Yes true, it was the last major reference they had, of a war! And Napoleon Broke w/ standard rules of warfare, changed it, therefor becoming, a sort of father of war to them! case in point, cavelry, it was obsolete by the civil war. But they used it.
& especially it is the past fortunatly because the only truth to see about this big battle (the biggest battle of the Napoleonic's time) is that it was a pure butchery for the both Armies
@cumbas borodino is not the biggest battle of the napoleonic era (135 000 french and allied against 104 000 russian) only the third behind the battle of Wagram (180 000 french vs 161 000 austrian) and the biggest of all : Leipzig (185 000 french vs 250 000 allied).
Arêtes ton char et tes recherches "google search" derrière tous mes écrits, tu ne fais pas le poids surtout en les connaissances sur ce temps et cette période de l'histoire...
Tu m'as bien vu ?
Tu as vu ma chaine (moi je viens de voir la tienne et je me marre...)
Crois-tu que j'ai du temps à perdre à jouer sur les mots avec un gamin ? Non pour informations...
Donc à propos de ce que j'écris ici en anglais (langue que je ne manie pas très bien j'en suis conscient et du coup je n'arrive pas toujours à bien y exprimer ce que je voulais dire réellement) je me situe dans le cadre de cette vidéo et pas plus et donc je confirme bien que BORODINO (Bataille de la Moskova si tu veux) est bien la plus importante (et sanglante surtout là est la tristesse quand on y pense) bataille DE LA CAMPAGNE DE RUSSIE DES TEMPS NAPOLÉONIENS
Cela confirme bien pour moi le petit gamin arrogant et prétentieux que tu sembles être.
Sur ce, comme j'estime m'être assez intéressé à ton pauvre petit cas (je ne suis pas là pour faire des B.A. après tout) et que je n'ai pas pour habitude de perdre mon temps avec d'insignifiants provocateurs dans ton genre, je te laisse à tes divagations de gamin un peu perdu
@cumbas oui oui, en attendant file acheter l'histoire napoléonienne pour les nuls (ou très nuls dans ton cas) reprend a partir du début et quand tu aura un bon niveau qui t'évitera de dire des énormités (ca fait déja deux fois que je te corrige il me semble) tu pourra revenir sur internet. Moi par contre je ne m'interresse nullement à ton cas, je rectifie la vérité (chose que tu devrai aimer) quand des pseudos historiens dans ton genre l'a déforme, Vieillard plus que prétentieux !
@cumbas lol, le tocard, il dit qu'il connait la vérité sur la fausse propagande des anglais et il maitrise même pas le sujet!. Mon pauvre vieillard tu ferais mieux d'arreter, si tu as passé du temps a essayer d'apprendre quelque chose sur cette période, a prioris ,au vu de tes "connaissances" tu as perdu ton temps. avant d'affirmer eduquer qui que se soit sur cette glorieuse épopée que tu connais mal apparement vérifie tes sources et arrête de nous inonder d'aneries.
VIVE LA FRANCE!!
mrharmonica100 2 months ago 2
Haha this is from the game: "Cossacks 2: Napoleonic wars.
RoManLP15 11 months ago
Long live the Polish cavalry
58wojtek 1 year ago
Too many black screens.
woodbinedrinker 1 year ago
This wasn't only a Europ vs Russian War. It was Slavic Nations vs Europ.
roosterm16 1 year ago
@roosterm16 Really? Why did Russia destroyed the Polish State then? The Duchy of Warsaw was on the Emperor side.
Treyppa 1 year ago
Soory boys russian army won this war but sadly as it is not this battle .Oh it is ok .
Trenofil 1 year ago
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EdelwardBerg 1 year ago
vote bnp!
Olekander 1 year ago
The same reenactors in the intro of the pc game Cossacks 2....
Arcenbuz21 2 years ago
Great trailer
mythobyshty921 2 years ago
VIVE l'EMPEREUR !! VIVE LA FRANCE !!
gipcambero 2 years ago 6
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HankQuinIan 2 years ago
ERMM...
OK...
*Edges aways slowly*
whikless 2 years ago
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HankQuinIan 2 years ago
I think you need you head examined.
whikless 2 years ago
Don't be a chissler a gyp or a gumshoe. And remember: keep your chin up. Keep your left shoulder up too, and when ya leave this joint...stay sober.
HankQuinIan 2 years ago
And keep ya nose clean!
HankQuinIan 2 years ago
You're really weird.
whikless 2 years ago
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HankQuinIan 2 years ago
Lol, I get you now.
whikless 2 years ago
Um...I don't.
HankQuinIan 2 years ago
I'm going now.
whikless 2 years ago
Ok bye.
HankQuinIan 2 years ago
1:36 : VIVE L'EMPEREUR !
MOUSQUETAIRE1661 2 years ago
anyone out there know the music used on this?
chopperpilot5 2 years ago
Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
Mix of Symphony #6,Part 3 Allegro molto vivace
Add my bass and final chord.
Mendelssson 2 years ago
@Mendelssson loved this guy
TchaikovskyFDR 1 year ago
@Mendelssson loved this guy oh and theres also the 4th symphony mvm #1
TchaikovskyFDR 1 year ago
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Beautiful french victory !
tiairisper 2 years ago
If to watch at this battle from a tactic view, ofcourse french troops won that battle - they taked all russian positions. But if to look at this from stategical point, Napoleon throw all his power and resources to destroy russian army - but he was can't do it. So, after Borodino french army got a deadly wound and slow began to duying, from every day number of french soliers was smaller.
P.S yes, my english is crap.
Scoutrussp7 2 years ago
Napoleon entered Russia in the head about 900 000 men, the biggest army of every time!
This army was too compact and very hard to make maneuver (except for for napoleon). Napoleon did not look even any more for the strategy, he sent this mass to head-on attack, anyway he knew that he was victorious even if he underwent colossal losses.... We distinguish military engineering of napoleon that when he has a small army against an opponent three times as numerous too my English is crap^^
tiairisper 2 years ago
It wasn't 900 000, but 600 000 French soldiers commanded by Napoléon, who invaded Russia in 1812 ( Because of the break of the Treaty of Tilsit by the Czar). It's rigth that for every people at t he moment, it was the biggest army ever seen in human history . For the rest of your comment, it's just, the Russian territory was too important: the classical Napoléon's maneuvrers became impracticable.
MOUSQUETAIRE1661 2 years ago
in two words it was Pyrrhic victory
AlonsoArdjuna 2 years ago
noone won this battle
oskaras77 2 years ago
Russia forever!!!
mochiKozlov 2 years ago
Here is a consideration in terms of linear tactics in the era of the Civil War, Franco Prussian War, and WWI that I think is too often overlooked, communications. Keeping soldiers in close order gave commanders some control through voice commands. You will notice that the development of modern combined small unit tactics pretty much coincides with development of radio and telephone communications, where you can keep in close contact over larger areas, gathering information and giving orders.
creativeactionfigure 2 years ago 2
was Lee still using napoleons tactics?
Rico8458 2 years ago
skyfrank that would be incorrect the union troops for the most part , were armed with the 58 caliber british enfield. only a few infantry had the breechloading rifles and or the repeaters.the confederates lost at gettysbrug for a number of reasons most importantly was that jackson was gone and longstreet just couldnt fill the void..a great fighter though he was regards come back
pdogone1 2 years ago
not right at gettysburg...union infantry still used the muzzle loading musket...what you are referring to, i believe, is the union cavalry of buford who had single shot breech loaders..the south lost at gettysburg for many reasons..not the lest is that lee's performance was not up to his previous campaigns..
pdogone1 2 years ago
True that longstreet, though Lee should have been brought up on charges.
Lee @ Gettysburg, was like Napoleon @ waterloo. Not Commander! of old.
solardragon223 2 years ago
Hello France!! Am from Cyprus and I admit that I loveeee Napoleon to hell! We are studying Napoleonic Wars in history now from the very beginning till the hundred days and so on but i think that Borodino was on 7September no 4 am not sure
ThX
WoW540 3 years ago 2
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Vive la Russie !!!
eluvar 3 years ago 5
Воевали против половины европы - и смогли дать хорошенькую баньку им... Вечная память павшим за родину
KirowAirship 3 years ago 26
vive la france !
alainvig 3 years ago
I'm an American Civil War re-enactor and during the American Civil War we (the Americans) used Napolionic Tactics because we liked the way it worked, but unfortunately by the 1860's our weapons were just simpley too far advanced and the tactics were too old for it, and many young men died =[
Smitheeboy94 3 years ago
the turning point was Gettysburg Battle~ while Northen troops started using advanced rifle...and their opponents were still using front-reload rifles.
so sad the Southern guys were Napolically marching towards to the north.....being slaughtered......
well, the Napolionic format were still used by french in some of the battles of WWI ... u can guest the rest.....
skyfrank 3 years ago
At the Somme, British commanders used the same tactics, as they tought they battered the German lines after an very long barrage, some officers even forbade running. Just marching into enemy lines. But it did'nt work, and in the first hour of the attack there were already 30.000 deads an wounded. In history of the fireweapon many men were killed by stupid old tactics because of the commanders were not able to keep up with the advancing technics.
Stormgebieder 2 years ago
Yes true, it was the last major reference they had, of a war! And Napoleon Broke w/ standard rules of warfare, changed it, therefor becoming, a sort of father of war to them! case in point, cavelry, it was obsolete by the civil war. But they used it.
solardragon223 2 years ago
This is a action of warhistori reconstraction groups in Russia on Borodino fields whiche was every year there at 3-4-5 septembe.
zlovonek 3 years ago
God in the Sky!
Russia on the ground!
rusbp 3 years ago 10
@rusbp
??
eeeeeeh ??
you lost this battle I remember that to you...
& especially it is the past fortunatly because the only truth to see about this big battle (the biggest battle of the Napoleonic's time) is that it was a pure butchery for the both Armies
it was the VERDUN of this time :-(
Now we need just peace for us and our children
cumbas 10 months ago
@cumbas borodino is not the biggest battle of the napoleonic era (135 000 french and allied against 104 000 russian) only the third behind the battle of Wagram (180 000 french vs 161 000 austrian) and the biggest of all : Leipzig (185 000 french vs 250 000 allied).
krixx691 6 months ago
@krixx691
1a)
tu as fini gamin ? oui ?
Arêtes ton char et tes recherches "google search" derrière tous mes écrits, tu ne fais pas le poids surtout en les connaissances sur ce temps et cette période de l'histoire...
Tu m'as bien vu ?
Tu as vu ma chaine (moi je viens de voir la tienne et je me marre...)
Crois-tu que j'ai du temps à perdre à jouer sur les mots avec un gamin ? Non pour informations...
cumbas 6 months ago
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cumbas 6 months ago
@krixx691
2a-fin)
Donc à propos de ce que j'écris ici en anglais (langue que je ne manie pas très bien j'en suis conscient et du coup je n'arrive pas toujours à bien y exprimer ce que je voulais dire réellement) je me situe dans le cadre de cette vidéo et pas plus et donc je confirme bien que BORODINO (Bataille de la Moskova si tu veux) est bien la plus importante (et sanglante surtout là est la tristesse quand on y pense) bataille DE LA CAMPAGNE DE RUSSIE DES TEMPS NAPOLÉONIENS
Ah je te jure..
cumbas 6 months ago
@cumbas y a pas que l'anglais que tu ne manie pas très bien pfffff.
krixx691 6 months ago
@krixx691
Quoi ?
Mort de rire, enfin "mdr" comme tu écrirais.
Cela confirme bien pour moi le petit gamin arrogant et prétentieux que tu sembles être.
Sur ce, comme j'estime m'être assez intéressé à ton pauvre petit cas (je ne suis pas là pour faire des B.A. après tout) et que je n'ai pas pour habitude de perdre mon temps avec d'insignifiants provocateurs dans ton genre, je te laisse à tes divagations de gamin un peu perdu
cumbas 6 months ago
@cumbas oui oui, en attendant file acheter l'histoire napoléonienne pour les nuls (ou très nuls dans ton cas) reprend a partir du début et quand tu aura un bon niveau qui t'évitera de dire des énormités (ca fait déja deux fois que je te corrige il me semble) tu pourra revenir sur internet. Moi par contre je ne m'interresse nullement à ton cas, je rectifie la vérité (chose que tu devrai aimer) quand des pseudos historiens dans ton genre l'a déforme, Vieillard plus que prétentieux !
krixx691 6 months ago 11
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@cumbas lol, le tocard, il dit qu'il connait la vérité sur la fausse propagande des anglais et il maitrise même pas le sujet!. Mon pauvre vieillard tu ferais mieux d'arreter, si tu as passé du temps a essayer d'apprendre quelque chose sur cette période, a prioris ,au vu de tes "connaissances" tu as perdu ton temps. avant d'affirmer eduquer qui que se soit sur cette glorieuse épopée que tu connais mal apparement vérifie tes sources et arrête de nous inonder d'aneries.
krixx691 6 months ago
VIVE L EMPEREUR!!!! VIVE L EMPEREUR!!! VIVE LA FRANCE
caporal sapeur artilleur du 8e regiment d artillerie et premier génie militaire de sa majesté
quentinou490 4 years ago 4
The only thing this needs is a placard saying "Coming Soon - Summer 2008" or something like that! It'd be one wicked cool movie! :D
magic8ball2112 4 years ago
Thank you for advice.
But movie about measure which took a place in 2005. In next teaser will do so.
Mendelssson 4 years ago
Bagration Rules !
karakallatore 4 years ago 5
Скажи-ка, дядя, ведь не даром
Москва, спаленная пожаром,Французу отдана?
Ведь были ж схватки боевые,
Да, говорят, еще какие!
Недаром помнит вся Россия
Про день Бородина!
БОРОДИНО
1837
Михаил Лермонтов.
...very nice!!!
evina90 4 years ago 6
that's a lot of French reenactors there.
hollywoodwerewolf 4 years ago
The movie is Russian, isn't it?
Francespa 4 years ago
Exactly! Although author live in Kiev...8-)
Mendelssson 4 years ago