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  • I feel like im on a pirate ship...just saying...."why is all the rum gone?"

  • Love this so much

  • Le superbe et triomphant Marin Marais avec cette immense tragédie lyrique Alcione qui fait entendre un parfait style lullyste bien maitrisé sans les horribles fioritures baroques italiennes !

    Vive Marin Marais, lulliste accompli qui honore la plus belle des musiques c'est à dire la divine musique bien française !

    Merci à vous frère protestant !

  • @DroitDivin : I love Marais, but blaming the Italians for "baroque flourishes" (without which French baroque and music, art and literature wouldn't exist, since it's such an important part of French style) is a little too much, don't you think so? Also, given that Lully was Italian - although he opposed Italian influences in France - makes the whole nationality issue a bit irrelevant :-) All national schools influenced one another.

  • @bersa888 Très cher ami mélomane,

    Je ne puis que m'étonner de cette réflexion ! Remettriez vous en cause la supériorité évidente par son classicisme et son accord parfait avec le véritable Beau, naturel, simple, harmonieux, du Lullysme contre toutes les sectes baroques et remplies de fioritures stupides des Italiens mais aussi celles des Ramistes et des Gluckistes (surtout ces derniers en musique dite française) qui ont dénaturé et corrompu la véritable musique française et lulliste ????

  • @DroitDivin : Hello. Yes... but I was mostly pointing out to the fact that flourishes, embellishments, are an intrinsic and a sine-qua-non element of French Baroque music, more than Italian or German. For example, French Baroque keyboard music is the most overloaded by embellishments than any other European keyboard literature. Simplicity of phrase and harmonies is another matter altogether. Also, to keep in mind is what ALL baroque performers did during a live performance: freely improvise.

  • @bersa888 Ce Lullisme qui fut imité partout en Europe (surtout en Allemagne et le style allemand est une extension de cette doctrine musicale), admiré par les plus Grands monarques et compositeurs (après M. de Lully) comme Telemann ou même Bach ! M. de Lully a totalement rompu (une fois sa doctrine musicale faite notamment en supprimant les parties comiques (bien que peu visibles) plus tard dans les immenses tragédies lyriques à partir de Bellérophon, le plus grand opéra du monde !)

  • @bersa888 ... avec la tradition de l'école italienne de Naples ou de Rome qui sont d'un baroquisme italien voulant mettre la mélodie au dessus de tout d'un mauvais gout épouvantable ! Mélangeant les genres comiques et dramatiques et oubliant la glorification au monarque ! Enfin comme vous le voyez très cher ami, il n'y a rien de bon dans la tradition italienne...

  • @DroitDivin : I see... well, if purity and simplicity and directness of emotions is what you are looking for, then why don't go back to Palestrina? Also, if you are looking at the inspiration and direct influences on Lully's music, Late Renaissance-Early Baroque music from Italy is where you have to look, namely Monteverdi, Carissimi and Cavalli....

  • @DroitDivin je suis le diable

  • I love it! this is great. amazing info in the "show more" description section! thanks for the post, never take it down!

  • The painting seems to be too "young" for the music. Ships like that were used around 1800.

  • This is also the tune for the Carol "Masters in the Hall" or "Sing We all Nowell!"

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  • THANKS! THANKS!

    Thank you for your posting!

  • A nice little march-tune, with some FIRE, at about 1:20!!!

    Slows down, quite pleasantly, near the finish, too - I like that. All in all, a catchy march tune, with some life to it, as well!

    Thanks for posting!

    Love the painting, also - the tune does seem a bit like a seafarin' kind-a piece.

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