@SteveSabbai This really depends on the LED you use, what battery solution you provide for the LED, and if there is a current-regulating driver controlling things or not. Additionally, you have factors such as blade length, diffusion material inside the blade (which "catches" the light, much like any lamp you'd see in your house), and several other factors.
Ultimately--I would pick the five colors you LIKE best. They will all be "bright" if you do things correctly, though. :)
I have to admit, I'm really new to this. Which one is better overall? And what is a hyperblade exactly? I understand it's probably a different type of LED at the base? Also, is the hyperblade more prone to breaks? I can see the light gap at the top, is that a common occurrence in Hypers? Do Hypers trade off durability for aesthetics? I know there are a lot of questions, but I honestly don't even know where to start in building these.
@AyanaLinval Zounds, that's a lot of question! :) The quickest way I can respond--yet give you info--is to say that YES... the technologies of "Hyperblades" vs. "Luxeon style" blades are different. I would say that--by default of PHYSICS--yes, the Hyperblade is prone to destruction. Maybe not "tomorrow", maybe not "next week", but... yes--over time.
Even that being said--"Luxeon" / flashlight style blades give a run for everyone's money on brightness... and certainly for durability.
@greytale ...i only want a Saber for Cosplay/Display not for dueling so which one would be my best choice for blade color quality? also how long does the batteries last in these Sabers if kept on constantly? 1hr, 2hrs? thxu for your time :)
Nothing fancy... just a blade I setup myself, using the "Ultra" style of diffusion, which is essentially polypropylene (gift wrap!).
Also, b/c the Flange III sabers ("darkside" & "lightside") both got used IN EXCESS... like 100s and 100s of hits... the blades became... uhh... "naturally"(?) sanded in a very smooth, subtle way.
This "sanding" further aids the light diffusion to a certain extent.
However... sand a blade TOO much... and the color "dulls", so it's not as ideal.
I like the Hyper blades. But why is there no light near the tip of the blade? That normal? By the way, where can I find the full track of the anakin vs obi-wan fight? Id like to burn that to a cd because me and my bro will be making a video, once we get our CF boards anyway. By the way, can I use a LUXI for the CF? I'm getting the same stuff Jay-gon used.
This is nothing special... it's a K2 @ 1500mA (with flicker here) + a VERY good blade/diffusion setup that results in a VERY evenly lit saber.
Flange III (lightside) has since been upgraded to a Seoul P4 Green (of similar color shade--dumb luck for that!) which is being "overdriven" @ 1210mA.
I liked the whole 1.21A just for a goofy homage to 1.21 "Jigawatts"... ... (gigawatt?)
Hypers are good SHOW sabers, but a lux will tear through one like a hot knife through butter as far as durability goes... as long as you make your sabers as bullet proof as NovaStar does.
You beat the hell out of those things man!!! Your duels are insane as well.
I personally don't think the difference is worth the price given the current economy.
You don' t happen to have a makototsai blade to compare it to do you?
Hey Greytale, I was at one of your saber-building seminars a few years ago, I think it was just after the BoP1 had been performed (it was at the Tech Shop in Menlo Park.)I know I do not know much about the sabers, but what is up with the dead area on the Hypers?
For video purposes, the one always on the left kicks ass... it looks legit, and the one on the left looks like a glowing stick, rather than a light saber.
How do u build this stuff? I understand how to make the handle but how do u build the electronics inside the handle & the rest of the stuff? Like where do u get the clear tip of the light sabre, what do I use to get the sabre its colour, how do I get the sound in there, how does it recharge & the sound sensitivity?
A lot of these questions can be answered by watching more of my videos... other people's vids on LED sabers as well... and also looking up some threads and forums on sabers in general.
There are many ways to make sabers... this vid is just a VERY basic comparison of "non-alike" sabers.
What this video shows is a brightness comparison in which people can make up their own minds.
As to which is better overall, considering sound, light, configuration, duel durability, modification, cost, etc. -- I would have to say a Crystal Focus-powered "Luxeon" style saber.
But ultimately, yes--research will help you quite a bit. :)
I can say... both the H-blade and most any Luxeon are A LOT brighter than an MR.
Compared to what--a "stock" Master Replicas, or a hand-made Luxeon saber? There really is no "stock" LED saber as far as I know.
That being said--in general, "Luxeon" style sabers have more durability in the sense that you can punish them--almost to extreme, & BOTH the blade AND THE electronics will survive. Further... even if the blade DOES break--no electronics should be harmed.
H-blades have electronics in the *blade* itself... and can be prone to damage. As seen in the video.
The blue Hyperblade seems to me to be as bright as if it were professionally done for the movies. That is, you get a hint of a white blade with a heavy blue hue at times. The same goes for the green blade as well. They (the blades) look very professional, and could pass for the real thing/movie quality.
if anyone dont know what too buy a Hblade or lux...then go with the luxeon. the Hblade is heavy craby noise yet extremely bright and luxeon not as bright but really close and its light and the best sounds in the world ... or that depends if you have a CF...hehe...
well i hate that non glowing spot... but the "turn on" sound of the rite one is WAY better.... take away that gay blank spot and ill take it! or that red one
you sounded exactly how I did when my 2 saber did in a duel. Long story short my friend hit it out of my hand and it fell from the bridge we were on and hit a car. It destroyed my CF2.61 but now i have a 4.0 in my new saber union. lesson of today don't duel on bridges over a road...
Good question. Built from the ground up. Essentially Jim Shima of Hyperdyne Labs made a custom electronics/light setup that is similar to FX sabers because of the LED array (string of lights in the tube)... but quite a bit more advanced. :)
I am a novice when it come to all of this but I really love the work put in to these sabers. Is it possible to purchase Flange III stlye light sabers from you?
Im willing to bet that a wire is loose and has caused a whole section to not be powered. I haven't ever seen an LED in a hyperblade break, but the wiring breaks very often and I've seen a lot of hyperblades with problems like that, but I cant say for sure that is the issue.
Right... LEDs _RARELY_ break... it is usually solder joints and/or wires being severed.
In the case of these sabers... they have undergone many changes after I put them in the hands of an electrical engineer who is both a good friend and someone who really knows what he is doing.
Hello, I am amazed about the quality of these lightsabers! I have 2 questions 1. How did you obtain all these lightsabers, and 2. Where can you purchase these lightsabers. I believe I have seen a Lex Lust (or whatevers at "Sharper Image")
Hi... well... technically this video title is just a play on words and does not describe the names of the sabers... there is no "Lux Lust" saber. :)
As to where to obtain the two styles of sabers shown in the video--you can visit hyperdynelabs for the H-blades, and a number of sites for Luxeons (such as Ultrasabers or thecustomsabershop).
The ones at Sharper Image are called Force FX sabers--which are quite different from the ones mentioned.
Darthmaniac is right on target. The video title speaks for itself... an 'LED saber comparison'.
I *DID* begin what *might* have been a durability test... but (obviously) that was cut short due to the Graflex falling apart. The durability test was going to be another, entirely DIFFERENT video... but I haven't had time after the Graflex falling apart issue. I've other things to do.
No matter how you slice it the blades do "break". Whether it happened before or after Nova got it doesn't change that it can. It wasn't intentional to break because you can see that the broken segment pops back in when getting hit in the video... obviously the breaking mechanism is impacts.
Of course it can. Big question is does it happen when the wind blows or after 20+ hits. What's the threshold point? One things for sure. This video doesn't fully depict that, because the Hyperblades arrived broken. We only have some dudes word that it broke from sparring. We don't know how hard or have footage of it. This video was played off like it was the actual sparring footage. Even had the JFK conspiracy slow mow.
The most logical explanation would be that the leads disconnected due to sparring, since I doubt the prior owner would smack his Hyper around on things like concrete and metal poles (I'd treat a Ferrari saber with more respect than that...). And if this video was truly like a conspiracy vid, trying to pass itself off as that "actual sparring footage", then wouldn't the blade have been fully lit and "intact" prior to the first hit?
Great, now Cheng is talking about JFK. Very on-topic and relevant. Additionally, he's making ALL sorts of assertions about these sabers, expecting EVERYTHING in one video.
It's already 10 minutes. That is youtube's limit.
I welcome Mark to post HIS OWN DURABILITY test. No one is stopping him. I'll get to it when I decide to do so. H-blade's are not my life's priority, lol. Far from it.
So your saying the prior owner recieved a malfunctioning Hyperblade. Instead of contacting the manufacture decided to give it away? If you own a Ferrari and it had a flat do you give it away? Your explanation seems logical that the leads disconnected due to sparring, but you can't conclusively say this until it's examined and tested. One thing is cool from Greytale's footage is you see both Hyperblades dark in the same spot. Perhaps a weak point needs to be refinforced. Or what if it's not that.
When did he say the prior owner received a malfunctioning Hyperblade? He just said that the Graflex fell apart, which he acknowledged previously was not a fault of Hyperdyne but just a Graflex replica issue.
One thing that is possible, like you said, they were damaged in the same spot. That seems to be the "optimal" "cutting" spot for thigns like Kendo...perhaps it is just that that section needs to be reinforced since it is what is most often used to strike?
OK, previous owner spent $1,000+ and broke both during sparring. If that's the case why would he give it away? It's not like the LEDs shattered into a million pieces. You see the blade section go in and out. Which means simple fix. The problem is in one disconnect. Instead he gave away both without expecting them back. He could of sold one to get the other Hyperblade fixed. Yet gave both away? Just giving them away shows that there was no real effort to get them fixed.
Agreed, there is a 10 minute limit to youtube videos. I doubt anyone is filming 24-7 also to catch the "break" so a full "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll?" type video is bordering on the absurd to reasonably get.
So taken at face value I just see the video as evidence that it CAN happen. For some that alone is enough. Then for many it won't matter at all as they don't duel.
A good point, X. Still, I'll see what I can do to test them in a "durability" video when I can. Again, A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIDEO, CHENG.
Brightness = one video
Pros & Cons = another video
Durability = another video
See the trend? TOTALLY illogical, huh? Especially with the 10 min. time limit. Yeah. I should just say F** ALLLL that, & shove every possible test in, rushing it, doing every wiring comparison, blade length, blade width, every possible color, every possible lighting situation.
Apparently, the same way you come to your "conclusions", Mark.
Diarrhea of the mouth. Or rather--the keyboard.
I say let the viewers decide based on what they saw--not what they assume. They can watch any video they like too... Jim's, Jedibum's... whomevers--and decide for themselves.
If by full on you mean hits, they really weren't. Greytale's "full on" hits are much tougher than what he did to the Hyper here. The debate on TCSS was really more of a brightness debate and not a durability one, and I think this video fills that duty. If the video is biased, it is only in that Greytale needs cheap(er) practical lightsabers, and Hyper blades don't offer the "practical duelability" (i think i just made up a word) he's looking for.
This video was made as a response to questions on TCSS. I believe it was already clear that greytale received some broken Hypers. And it's not like he claims he caused the damage to the hyperdyne blade himself by tapping it a bit. This is just starting to get drawn out, immature, nitpicky, and utterly pointless. The fact is that some Lux guys on TCSS wanted a fair brightness comparison btwn a hyper and a *good* Lux setup. Greytale got his hands on some old hypers (albeit v1s) and did his best.
So one would have to go to TCSS to find out if these Hyperblades arrived damage? Would you go into a foot race w/ out shoes while your competition has Nikes? A drag race w/ a flat tire? Without gas? Don't throw up a comparison video and expect nothing to get nitpicked. Then when an inconsistency is discovered plead this is not a serious comparison. Is this a pointless point? I'm all for comparison videos. Just find that Greytale's process could of been more clinical.
Yup. It's clear Mark will do anything but pay attention to his OWN life and deal with his OWN issues.
Besides... who cares. It's not like this video is the talk of youtube or something. Like I said before--they are all TOYS. Take them too seriously--like Mark Cheng... and you'll end up living in your head all your life.
I really don't know what you're so bent up about. I thought it was a pretty fair comparison. I don't see any point in the video where he tried to destroy the hyperblade; those were not particularly hard hits on the saber. Shouldn't we just accept that overall, the Hyperblade is brighter and more suited for display, but that Luxeons are a more cost-efficient way to go especially for those looking to bash the hell out of their sabers, like Greytale?
That's cool if it's your cup of tea. Something you may not know is the fact that the Hyperblades arrived to Greytale damaged. Yet at 8:59 he announces a durability test. Still seem fair to you? Video is also titled Hyper Hype. Does this seem like a nuetral test with a title like that? Any attempts for Greytale to address this inconsistency and he deletes the posts. Devil's in the details. I would whole heartidly agree with you, but the misinformation is very thick around here.
At the same time, the video is also titled Lux Lust, and labelling lux supporters after a carnal desire isn't exactly a flattering way to describe lux supporters either.
I did know that the Hyperblades arrived damaged. I think he intends to see how the other still-intact solder points hold up. You can't really blame him for receiving a set of broken Hyperblades for free and deciding to put those through their paces.
I will continue to delete Mark's posts if he continues to SPAM THE THREAD. He literally makes SIX OR SEVEN comments, each with the maximum character count... over and over and over again.
For God's sake... move on, Mark. Find a life... please. We all have other things going on. While you are hanging on to the past... others are moving toward the future.
The durability test that Mark so anally refers to at "8:59" was clearly ENDED because the damn Graflex FELL APART.
As to Hyper Hype & LUX LUST... exactly. It was a joke of equality to these saber users. They're all just toys. Unfair to Mark Cheng, but fair to any normal human being watching the videos.
STOP FLAMING THE THREAD WITH OBNOXIOUS CRAP, CHENG. Make an attempt to be reasonable and logical, and get out of your head!
Glad you liked Muffin. 10 minutes only allows so much, so I only hope it gives a range of comparisons, if only on blue & green. Most of my blue Luxeons were pretty poor comparisons either by being Cyan-ish or off-color... using no mirror + "so-so" diffuser... or a combination of both.
Anyhow... the H-blades are off to Eandori for now. Keep in touch with me, and who knows... if you want to test them, I don't see why not.
It's cool. It takes a lot of guts to do what you're doing. I know you may get a lot of flack for breaking away from the "status quo." Just ignore it and know it's better to make a pure pesonal decision than an influenced one. Even if it doesn't agree with me or anybody else. As long as your soul accepts it and you made it 100% on yourself. The Force is strong with you.
Soooo, u made these? And damn u were rough on thoose things at the end, are urs made to survive that? IF they are all u need are better sound effects (Urs are just not quite as good as the other ones as far as I could tell) and u could be in business easy
Well... it ended up just fine. The clamp that holds a graflex together needs to be tight. That one wasn't... so the two halves didn't stay put! I'm sure I can get the thing together tighter later on, but haven't gotten to it yet.
Ummm Yeeeah...I know you can read, and read the title of this video? Who are you kidding? Title seems kind of controvertial. No?
"staying on the safe side and the fact they were given up for nothing shows that they must of been damaged"
Are you 100% sure they were given to him damaged? Where does it say that? You don't seem sure. You don't seem to no beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were given to Greytale damaged.
Which brings me to my next question. Why never mention it? Because it clearly shows in the video?
Shouldn't both systems be working 100% in a comparison video? It's like testing the performance of two competing cars with one of the cars empty on gas and the other with a flat. That's what I'm trying to figure out, because Greytale never mentions they were damaged beforehand. I asked, but he deleted my post, and so far is avoiding to clearly answer it. If so why?
Odd he makes a concerted effort to communicate that the Graflex falling apart in the end was included becaues it was "funny" and didn't want folks to get the wrong idea. Yet no mention of the Hyperblades delivered damaged? Food for thought. MalakiSkywalker, I'm with you on this. I also thing they were delivered damaged. Just perplexed why it was never mentoined, because it can give folks the wrong idea that they were damaged from thrashing/bashing. Which we don't see video footage of.
I'm sorry, do I know you Malaki? What's wrong with asking how the Hyperbaldes ended up the way they are in the video. I believe there's more to the story then what's on the video. Keep in mind Greytale deleted my same question before when I asked it. In fact twice before. Which says he doesn't want to answer it. Why did he delete it twice? Malaki, what do you think happened. Is it's A or B? Can you furthur explain what my true colors are?
do you mean better LED's will probably be made or they are being developed now and are being released in around 6 months. if so are you talking about ultrasabers selling these?
LED technologies (like most others) are always in motion, always improving. This likely means that both the "Luxeon saber" and Hyperdyne and/or MR style saber (soon-to-be Hasbro) will all benefit!
LOL the ending was priceless. A wonderful "OH SHI-" moment.
Man, that's a lot of possibilities. The Flanges look amazing as usual. I'm going to go look up the Hyperdyne stuff, find out more about the technology. Which do you like better?
Well, I don't have a lot of exp. w/ H-blades. But, if you absolutely need my opinion, it's about staged-combat worthiness, low-cost, good balance, runtime, and easy & inexpensive repair/blade change. Very important to ME. So, in my thinking--the Luxeon style has the advantage.
It's also only a matter of time (<6 months?) as to when newer LEDs that are twice as bright can be "popped" into any given Luxeon-style saber. For like... $8 to $15. Without changing the fwd voltage much. :)
Sweet; I agree, I'd like to be able to beat people with it and it not cost me a fortune. The newer LEDs, are they a new type of Luxeon, or another brand?
Yeah, from what I've seen the H-blades seem a little less durable, since those black spots tend to occur after a good beating.
Actually you do not know that, Mark. I can speak for myself regarding these props, thank you.
As far as I know--the dark spots DID indeed come from a good thrashing/beating. Why else would they occur? Breathing on it incorrectly? Being viewed improperly...?
Again. Please answer the following. Is it A or B?
A)Dark sports were the result from previous owner thrashing/beating the Hyperblades.
OR
B) Both Hyperblades were damaged in the same spot from heavy thrashing/beatings by you.
Deleting my post and jake23masters post simply signifies you're afraid to answer a direct question. Deleting this post will furthur confirm the truth you're trying to hide.
No. What happens is--over time and smacking the saber against things--solder joints/wiring fails, and certain portions of the LED strip that is housed inside the blade will... not behave correctly.
As is seen here. But, no--the H-blade is not "new"... it had most certainly been used.
all the swords on the left r the same power and more lighter than the onbes on the left but the ones on the elft make a game sound. they sound like the jedi academy games.
Nice video Novastar. The Gralex clamp looks like it wasn't tight enough and the forward section just twisted a little and it came unlocked. That's happened to me before with a Luxeon Graflex and shouldn't be a mark against the Hyperdyne setup. The tip flying off.....well, I can't say that never happens with a Lux blade either, as you know. So again, it's not something unique the the Hyperdyne blade. I'd like to see a more agressive durability test though.
Right... I've said it before, I'll say it again--the Graflex falling apart has NOTHING to do with Hyperdyne Labs.
As to the tip, indeed--same thing--I've seen them fly off of Luxeons too. I just found it FUNNY... so I posted that part of the video. Me and my twisted sense of humor... :)
ROFL. I love the moment when the graflex hilt flies apart, though that's just because it's a graflex saber.
And wow. Compared to seeing the sabers in a setting with lots of ambient light, they do look alot more even in lower ambient light settings. That's amazing. Just furthers my belief that Lux is still the best bang for the buck...and hey! if Lux comes really close to Hypers in doing so, so much the better.
I still have to give the blue Luxeon that is a good "like color comparison" an actual GOOD blade. By luck, it was probably one of the only Lux blades with the MR diffuser and NO mirror tip.
So, in reality--the blue tests were biased a bit in favor of the Hyperdyne. Which is fine. People can see all the overall goings on here...
It does! And for the record--I think that is a GRAFLEX problem... NOT something that Jim/Hyperdyne did.
Let me make that CLEAR. The Graflex falling apart is NOT something anyone should be blaming Jim for! It was just funny, so I kept it in the video. I had no idea it was going to come apart like that!!!!
Great non-bias comparison with Lux-Hyperdyne. This is about what I expected, Hyper-blue beats luxeon soundly, green is a much closer fight.
See in this video how much better the BLADE is made on Novastars personal CF driven flange sabers? You can EASILY tell Novastars is very even. The light flaring on the carpet is a dead give-away. Compare to JediBum's Hyperblade Vs. 5Watt Green video... he has much more hilt flaring i.e. light lost in the hilt.
A green K2 seems close to a Hyperblade on setting 10. Lux V at 1 amp is brighter and it would have been EVEN CLOSER to the Hyperblade. A well built blade makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
If I want the best value, go with luxeon hands down and make the blade good. If I want brightest with some value, Hyperblade for blue, Luxeon for green/red. Nearly as bright, but FAR more durable, cheaper, and 6x-18x battery life? That's just better.
Hyperblades are ok-ish, but Luxeons are just to popular and a lot cheaper for the Hyperblade to be the best and as for the sound board, i couldn't have it in my saber personally. But as we have seen in this video luxeons are getting very brighter nowadays and soon there will be a super K2 or something lol
Greytale, thanks for taking the time to test all those configurations, clearly showing what kind of results can be obtained with low quality luxeon blades and better ones. Significant differences are presented in this exhaustive test. The hyperblade probably remains brighter but the aura of light is not so bigger than the radiation of the K2 for instance.
Now, last test to be done : overdriven lux V and a hyperblade v2 !
...i plan on buying a Saber and wanted to know what are the top 5 brightest colors?..thxu for your time :)
SteveSabbai 9 months ago
@SteveSabbai This really depends on the LED you use, what battery solution you provide for the LED, and if there is a current-regulating driver controlling things or not. Additionally, you have factors such as blade length, diffusion material inside the blade (which "catches" the light, much like any lamp you'd see in your house), and several other factors.
Ultimately--I would pick the five colors you LIKE best. They will all be "bright" if you do things correctly, though. :)
--Nova
greytale 9 months ago
I have to admit, I'm really new to this. Which one is better overall? And what is a hyperblade exactly? I understand it's probably a different type of LED at the base? Also, is the hyperblade more prone to breaks? I can see the light gap at the top, is that a common occurrence in Hypers? Do Hypers trade off durability for aesthetics? I know there are a lot of questions, but I honestly don't even know where to start in building these.
AyanaLinval 10 months ago
@AyanaLinval Zounds, that's a lot of question! :) The quickest way I can respond--yet give you info--is to say that YES... the technologies of "Hyperblades" vs. "Luxeon style" blades are different. I would say that--by default of PHYSICS--yes, the Hyperblade is prone to destruction. Maybe not "tomorrow", maybe not "next week", but... yes--over time.
Even that being said--"Luxeon" / flashlight style blades give a run for everyone's money on brightness... and certainly for durability.
greytale 10 months ago
@greytale ...i only want a Saber for Cosplay/Display not for dueling so which one would be my best choice for blade color quality? also how long does the batteries last in these Sabers if kept on constantly? 1hr, 2hrs? thxu for your time :)
SteveSabbai 9 months ago
can you duel with em?
taichix 1 year ago
what is hyperdyne? ^^
taichix 1 year ago
hyperblades FTW!! anyone who agrees thumbs up!
bluecamel786 1 year ago
Great videos Greytale I applaud your unbiased reviews and hope we get more comparison videos soon
gmorales5000 2 years ago
can u use hypers to duel like ultras? are they durable like ultras?
MrBigFartZa 2 years ago
what kind of blade was on the "Flange iii" with the green K2? That was AWESOME!
brandon9271 2 years ago
Nothing fancy... just a blade I setup myself, using the "Ultra" style of diffusion, which is essentially polypropylene (gift wrap!).
Also, b/c the Flange III sabers ("darkside" & "lightside") both got used IN EXCESS... like 100s and 100s of hits... the blades became... uhh... "naturally"(?) sanded in a very smooth, subtle way.
This "sanding" further aids the light diffusion to a certain extent.
However... sand a blade TOO much... and the color "dulls", so it's not as ideal.
--Novastar
greytale 2 years ago
lolz mam wat happened at the end... did the hilt split in half of sompthin
jedipadwan555 2 years ago
why is there a section in the blade that is not lit
paulorules 2 years ago
thats a "black spot", it is caused by the LEDs inside being damaged so they cannot light up anymore... its like a blown lightbulb.
ulamss5 2 years ago
lol, hope your last saber wasn't damaged dude.
KorribanGhost 2 years ago
I like the Hyper blades. But why is there no light near the tip of the blade? That normal? By the way, where can I find the full track of the anakin vs obi-wan fight? Id like to burn that to a cd because me and my bro will be making a video, once we get our CF boards anyway. By the way, can I use a LUXI for the CF? I'm getting the same stuff Jay-gon used.
jedimastergarcia87 2 years ago
Some of the small LEDs in the PCB that makes the array within the blade were damaged. I received these sabers secondhand, and I left them alone.
At a later date, Eandori (see his y-tube channel) was able to take the things apart and work to repair them.
greytale 2 years ago
Did the one on the left break near the tip?
YamiPoyo 3 years ago
can you please makke a video of your best one! plz plz plz
1243546576 3 years ago
This is nothing special... it's a K2 @ 1500mA (with flicker here) + a VERY good blade/diffusion setup that results in a VERY evenly lit saber.
Flange III (lightside) has since been upgraded to a Seoul P4 Green (of similar color shade--dumb luck for that!) which is being "overdriven" @ 1210mA.
I liked the whole 1.21A just for a goofy homage to 1.21 "Jigawatts"... ... (gigawatt?)
WHAT THE HELL IS A JIGAWATT?!??!? :)
greytale 3 years ago
fantastic!!!
Hypers are good SHOW sabers, but a lux will tear through one like a hot knife through butter as far as durability goes... as long as you make your sabers as bullet proof as NovaStar does.
You beat the hell out of those things man!!! Your duels are insane as well.
I personally don't think the difference is worth the price given the current economy.
You don' t happen to have a makototsai blade to compare it to do you?
silkvein 3 years ago
Hey Greytale, I was at one of your saber-building seminars a few years ago, I think it was just after the BoP1 had been performed (it was at the Tech Shop in Menlo Park.)I know I do not know much about the sabers, but what is up with the dead area on the Hypers?
DanmdoBloodfist 3 years ago
Ah, good to hear from someone from TechShop! I always wonder how Jim Newton has been...
Anyhow... I gotcha back in PM on this one--let me know if you received.
greytale 3 years ago
Just comes to show that nothing can beat a good old fashion Luxeon saber with a CF sound board ;)
by the way I LAGHED MY ASS OFF AT THE END!!!
jedihunter00666 3 years ago
For video purposes, the one always on the left kicks ass... it looks legit, and the one on the left looks like a glowing stick, rather than a light saber.
iceteaguy 3 years ago
How do u build this stuff? I understand how to make the handle but how do u build the electronics inside the handle & the rest of the stuff? Like where do u get the clear tip of the light sabre, what do I use to get the sabre its colour, how do I get the sound in there, how does it recharge & the sound sensitivity?
dolla130shine 3 years ago
A lot of these questions can be answered by watching more of my videos... other people's vids on LED sabers as well... and also looking up some threads and forums on sabers in general.
There are many ways to make sabers... this vid is just a VERY basic comparison of "non-alike" sabers.
greytale 3 years ago
Please tell me where I can get one of these H-blades.I don' live in the US or Cananda so it's a kind of a problem for me to findout for myselfe
SSJ3Croat 3 years ago
the hyper is the best in all of those.
From here anyhow.
heresjonny666 3 years ago
no the parks saber graflex ;-;
KenFujiwara 3 years ago
No problem... glad to help out even 1 or 1000 people! :)
greytale 3 years ago
What this video shows is a brightness comparison in which people can make up their own minds.
As to which is better overall, considering sound, light, configuration, duel durability, modification, cost, etc. -- I would have to say a Crystal Focus-powered "Luxeon" style saber.
But ultimately, yes--research will help you quite a bit. :)
I can say... both the H-blade and most any Luxeon are A LOT brighter than an MR.
greytale 3 years ago
The flicker can be set exactly the same way on a Crystal Focus saber.
As to the H-blade, maybe contact Jim or Mark and they will help you out.
greytale 3 years ago
Without modifications (stock saber) what type of saber would you say is the strongest?
g00dfr1end 3 years ago
Compared to what--a "stock" Master Replicas, or a hand-made Luxeon saber? There really is no "stock" LED saber as far as I know.
That being said--in general, "Luxeon" style sabers have more durability in the sense that you can punish them--almost to extreme, & BOTH the blade AND THE electronics will survive. Further... even if the blade DOES break--no electronics should be harmed.
H-blades have electronics in the *blade* itself... and can be prone to damage. As seen in the video.
greytale 3 years ago
The blue Hyperblade seems to me to be as bright as if it were professionally done for the movies. That is, you get a hint of a white blade with a heavy blue hue at times. The same goes for the green blade as well. They (the blades) look very professional, and could pass for the real thing/movie quality.
incorporeal05 3 years ago
wher does 1 obtain this kinds of lightsabers?! Im kinda SLoW.......
Twilightlinkman 3 years ago
Search the net or youtube for LED sabers, Hyperblades, or FX sabers... that should at least get you started.
greytale 3 years ago
if anyone dont know what too buy a Hblade or lux...then go with the luxeon. the Hblade is heavy craby noise yet extremely bright and luxeon not as bright but really close and its light and the best sounds in the world ... or that depends if you have a CF...hehe...
ImperialSith 3 years ago
well i hate that non glowing spot... but the "turn on" sound of the rite one is WAY better.... take away that gay blank spot and ill take it! or that red one
Narufan975 3 years ago
Well, the blank spot isn't NORMAL--it just came from damage done to it via being struck hard against things over time.
It has actually since been repaired--at least in a "workaround" way.
greytale 3 years ago
you sounded exactly how I did when my 2 saber did in a duel. Long story short my friend hit it out of my hand and it fell from the bridge we were on and hit a car. It destroyed my CF2.61 but now i have a 4.0 in my new saber union. lesson of today don't duel on bridges over a road...
GoGoV8504 3 years ago
Hanh?!
greytale 3 years ago
Where can I get lightsabers like that? I want a double bladed lightsaber but I dont know where to get one can you help me out?
zeratul1489 3 years ago
Well, you could try Alex with his business ultrasabers. You just add dot you know what afterward in your web browser. :)
Basically, look for a "Maul conversion" on Alex's site.
greytale 3 years ago
So, essentially are these FX blades, just modified? ir are they ground up custom built?
F22coleman 3 years ago
Good question. Built from the ground up. Essentially Jim Shima of Hyperdyne Labs made a custom electronics/light setup that is similar to FX sabers because of the LED array (string of lights in the tube)... but quite a bit more advanced. :)
greytale 3 years ago
Anyway to buy one of these, I had an Luke ANH FX blade but certainly wasn't was cool as these
F22coleman 3 years ago
Nevermind, I just read the post about how to by them
F22coleman 3 years ago
the red flange III seems to be slightly brighter then the other two but thats because its red the brightest lux of then all.
ImperialSith 3 years ago
I am a novice when it come to all of this but I really love the work put in to these sabers. Is it possible to purchase Flange III stlye light sabers from you?
Josepetito 3 years ago
Thanks for the video, helps alot. btw what blade is he using on the Lux green?
stevegel 3 years ago
dammit... I meant to hit reply on a comment and instead I hit remove. GRRR!!!
Anyhow, I was just going to say to whomever it was... yes, the MRs do not compare to an H-blade, nor do they compare to a Luxeon.
There are no MRFX sabers shown in this video, however...
greytale 3 years ago
ok, there is some type of conversion or something that has to be done? and whats with the tip of the blade? Please answer
randrfreak101 3 years ago
Im willing to bet that a wire is loose and has caused a whole section to not be powered. I haven't ever seen an LED in a hyperblade break, but the wiring breaks very often and I've seen a lot of hyperblades with problems like that, but I cant say for sure that is the issue.
pfcpowell18 3 years ago
Right... LEDs _RARELY_ break... it is usually solder joints and/or wires being severed.
In the case of these sabers... they have undergone many changes after I put them in the hands of an electrical engineer who is both a good friend and someone who really knows what he is doing.
Myself, I am not an electrical engineer. :)
greytale 3 years ago
Hello, I am amazed about the quality of these lightsabers! I have 2 questions 1. How did you obtain all these lightsabers, and 2. Where can you purchase these lightsabers. I believe I have seen a Lex Lust (or whatevers at "Sharper Image")
Jedimastob1 3 years ago
Hi... well... technically this video title is just a play on words and does not describe the names of the sabers... there is no "Lux Lust" saber. :)
As to where to obtain the two styles of sabers shown in the video--you can visit hyperdynelabs for the H-blades, and a number of sites for Luxeons (such as Ultrasabers or thecustomsabershop).
The ones at Sharper Image are called Force FX sabers--which are quite different from the ones mentioned.
greytale 3 years ago
The hyper has a convulsion
SoraRoxasKH 3 years ago
why i see a balck spot on the saber of the middle?
pilotoatomico 3 years ago
The LED array for that portion of the entire blade was having issues. I'm not certain it was TOTALLY broken... but it was certainly glitchy.
greytale 3 years ago
the one on right is like star wars vright. like its not flashing or anything...
metallover344 3 years ago
Only the blue H-blade had a problematic section, which does not affect the driving of the rest of its blade.
The Green H-blade was functioning 100% perfectly. Comments stating otherwise are just erroneous and misinformation.
greytale 4 years ago
Darthmaniac is right on target. The video title speaks for itself... an 'LED saber comparison'.
I *DID* begin what *might* have been a durability test... but (obviously) that was cut short due to the Graflex falling apart. The durability test was going to be another, entirely DIFFERENT video... but I haven't had time after the Graflex falling apart issue. I've other things to do.
greytale 4 years ago
No matter how you slice it the blades do "break". Whether it happened before or after Nova got it doesn't change that it can. It wasn't intentional to break because you can see that the broken segment pops back in when getting hit in the video... obviously the breaking mechanism is impacts.
xwingband 4 years ago
Of course it can. Big question is does it happen when the wind blows or after 20+ hits. What's the threshold point? One things for sure. This video doesn't fully depict that, because the Hyperblades arrived broken. We only have some dudes word that it broke from sparring. We don't know how hard or have footage of it. This video was played off like it was the actual sparring footage. Even had the JFK conspiracy slow mow.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
The most logical explanation would be that the leads disconnected due to sparring, since I doubt the prior owner would smack his Hyper around on things like concrete and metal poles (I'd treat a Ferrari saber with more respect than that...). And if this video was truly like a conspiracy vid, trying to pass itself off as that "actual sparring footage", then wouldn't the blade have been fully lit and "intact" prior to the first hit?
darthmaniac 4 years ago
Great, now Cheng is talking about JFK. Very on-topic and relevant. Additionally, he's making ALL sorts of assertions about these sabers, expecting EVERYTHING in one video.
It's already 10 minutes. That is youtube's limit.
I welcome Mark to post HIS OWN DURABILITY test. No one is stopping him. I'll get to it when I decide to do so. H-blade's are not my life's priority, lol. Far from it.
greytale 4 years ago
So your saying the prior owner recieved a malfunctioning Hyperblade. Instead of contacting the manufacture decided to give it away? If you own a Ferrari and it had a flat do you give it away? Your explanation seems logical that the leads disconnected due to sparring, but you can't conclusively say this until it's examined and tested. One thing is cool from Greytale's footage is you see both Hyperblades dark in the same spot. Perhaps a weak point needs to be refinforced. Or what if it's not that.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
When did he say the prior owner received a malfunctioning Hyperblade? He just said that the Graflex fell apart, which he acknowledged previously was not a fault of Hyperdyne but just a Graflex replica issue.
One thing that is possible, like you said, they were damaged in the same spot. That seems to be the "optimal" "cutting" spot for thigns like Kendo...perhaps it is just that that section needs to be reinforced since it is what is most often used to strike?
darthmaniac 4 years ago
OK, previous owner spent $1,000+ and broke both during sparring. If that's the case why would he give it away? It's not like the LEDs shattered into a million pieces. You see the blade section go in and out. Which means simple fix. The problem is in one disconnect. Instead he gave away both without expecting them back. He could of sold one to get the other Hyperblade fixed. Yet gave both away? Just giving them away shows that there was no real effort to get them fixed.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
The previous owner got tired of lightsabers; he gave away all of his sabers, not just his Hypers. Just the Hypers landed in Greytale's hands though.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
Agreed, there is a 10 minute limit to youtube videos. I doubt anyone is filming 24-7 also to catch the "break" so a full "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll?" type video is bordering on the absurd to reasonably get.
So taken at face value I just see the video as evidence that it CAN happen. For some that alone is enough. Then for many it won't matter at all as they don't duel.
xwingband 4 years ago
A good point, X. Still, I'll see what I can do to test them in a "durability" video when I can. Again, A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIDEO, CHENG.
Brightness = one video
Pros & Cons = another video
Durability = another video
See the trend? TOTALLY illogical, huh? Especially with the 10 min. time limit. Yeah. I should just say F** ALLLL that, & shove every possible test in, rushing it, doing every wiring comparison, blade length, blade width, every possible color, every possible lighting situation.
greytale 4 years ago
How is that evidence when he recieved the Hyperblades malfunctioning?
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Well, the Hypers are used hypers, not new. So most likely it's not a simple case of malfunctioning, but they're probably broken.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
How do you know I don't know what is exactly wrong with both Hyperblades.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
We already know what's wrong with both Hypers- disconnected leads. Most likely, those are due to dueling stresses.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
You came to this conclusion how?
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Apparently, the same way you come to your "conclusions", Mark.
Diarrhea of the mouth. Or rather--the keyboard.
I say let the viewers decide based on what they saw--not what they assume. They can watch any video they like too... Jim's, Jedibum's... whomevers--and decide for themselves.
greytale 4 years ago
If by full on you mean hits, they really weren't. Greytale's "full on" hits are much tougher than what he did to the Hyper here. The debate on TCSS was really more of a brightness debate and not a durability one, and I think this video fills that duty. If the video is biased, it is only in that Greytale needs cheap(er) practical lightsabers, and Hyper blades don't offer the "practical duelability" (i think i just made up a word) he's looking for.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
This video was made as a response to questions on TCSS. I believe it was already clear that greytale received some broken Hypers. And it's not like he claims he caused the damage to the hyperdyne blade himself by tapping it a bit. This is just starting to get drawn out, immature, nitpicky, and utterly pointless. The fact is that some Lux guys on TCSS wanted a fair brightness comparison btwn a hyper and a *good* Lux setup. Greytale got his hands on some old hypers (albeit v1s) and did his best.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
So one would have to go to TCSS to find out if these Hyperblades arrived damage? Would you go into a foot race w/ out shoes while your competition has Nikes? A drag race w/ a flat tire? Without gas? Don't throw up a comparison video and expect nothing to get nitpicked. Then when an inconsistency is discovered plead this is not a serious comparison. Is this a pointless point? I'm all for comparison videos. Just find that Greytale's process could of been more clinical.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Yup. It's clear Mark will do anything but pay attention to his OWN life and deal with his OWN issues.
Besides... who cares. It's not like this video is the talk of youtube or something. Like I said before--they are all TOYS. Take them too seriously--like Mark Cheng... and you'll end up living in your head all your life.
greytale 4 years ago
I really don't know what you're so bent up about. I thought it was a pretty fair comparison. I don't see any point in the video where he tried to destroy the hyperblade; those were not particularly hard hits on the saber. Shouldn't we just accept that overall, the Hyperblade is brighter and more suited for display, but that Luxeons are a more cost-efficient way to go especially for those looking to bash the hell out of their sabers, like Greytale?
darthmaniac 4 years ago
That's cool if it's your cup of tea. Something you may not know is the fact that the Hyperblades arrived to Greytale damaged. Yet at 8:59 he announces a durability test. Still seem fair to you? Video is also titled Hyper Hype. Does this seem like a nuetral test with a title like that? Any attempts for Greytale to address this inconsistency and he deletes the posts. Devil's in the details. I would whole heartidly agree with you, but the misinformation is very thick around here.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
At the same time, the video is also titled Lux Lust, and labelling lux supporters after a carnal desire isn't exactly a flattering way to describe lux supporters either.
I did know that the Hyperblades arrived damaged. I think he intends to see how the other still-intact solder points hold up. You can't really blame him for receiving a set of broken Hyperblades for free and deciding to put those through their paces.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
I will continue to delete Mark's posts if he continues to SPAM THE THREAD. He literally makes SIX OR SEVEN comments, each with the maximum character count... over and over and over again.
For God's sake... move on, Mark. Find a life... please. We all have other things going on. While you are hanging on to the past... others are moving toward the future.
greytale 4 years ago
The durability test that Mark so anally refers to at "8:59" was clearly ENDED because the damn Graflex FELL APART.
As to Hyper Hype & LUX LUST... exactly. It was a joke of equality to these saber users. They're all just toys. Unfair to Mark Cheng, but fair to any normal human being watching the videos.
STOP FLAMING THE THREAD WITH OBNOXIOUS CRAP, CHENG. Make an attempt to be reasonable and logical, and get out of your head!
greytale 4 years ago
Watch this thread carefully you will find Greytale deleting his own posts.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Nice comparisons Greytale. I'd still like to get my hands on a hyperblade just so I can compare them myself.
TheMuffin18 4 years ago
Glad you liked Muffin. 10 minutes only allows so much, so I only hope it gives a range of comparisons, if only on blue & green. Most of my blue Luxeons were pretty poor comparisons either by being Cyan-ish or off-color... using no mirror + "so-so" diffuser... or a combination of both.
Anyhow... the H-blades are off to Eandori for now. Keep in touch with me, and who knows... if you want to test them, I don't see why not.
greytale 4 years ago
Apology accepted Captain Needa...;)
It's cool. It takes a lot of guts to do what you're doing. I know you may get a lot of flack for breaking away from the "status quo." Just ignore it and know it's better to make a pure pesonal decision than an influenced one. Even if it doesn't agree with me or anybody else. As long as your soul accepts it and you made it 100% on yourself. The Force is strong with you.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Soooo, u made these? And damn u were rough on thoose things at the end, are urs made to survive that? IF they are all u need are better sound effects (Urs are just not quite as good as the other ones as far as I could tell) and u could be in business easy
DystruktoBoi1 4 years ago
No, I did not make the sabers shown on the left.
You may need to watch some of my other saber videos demonstrating the "Flange III" sabers to fully understand.
greytale 4 years ago
Yes, I agree the Hyperblades did take a rough beating and still survived. Newer soundboard is being developed.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
OMG the graflex dint survive =[
DarkI3lood 4 years ago
Well... it ended up just fine. The clamp that holds a graflex together needs to be tight. That one wasn't... so the two halves didn't stay put! I'm sure I can get the thing together tighter later on, but haven't gotten to it yet.
greytale 4 years ago
the ends freakin hilarious nova.
Dandura 4 years ago
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"Perhaps Nova didn't want an argument?"
Ummm Yeeeah...I know you can read, and read the title of this video? Who are you kidding? Title seems kind of controvertial. No?
"staying on the safe side and the fact they were given up for nothing shows that they must of been damaged"
Are you 100% sure they were given to him damaged? Where does it say that? You don't seem sure. You don't seem to no beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were given to Greytale damaged.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
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Which brings me to my next question. Why never mention it? Because it clearly shows in the video?
Shouldn't both systems be working 100% in a comparison video? It's like testing the performance of two competing cars with one of the cars empty on gas and the other with a flat. That's what I'm trying to figure out, because Greytale never mentions they were damaged beforehand. I asked, but he deleted my post, and so far is avoiding to clearly answer it. If so why?
thedisturbance 4 years ago
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Odd he makes a concerted effort to communicate that the Graflex falling apart in the end was included becaues it was "funny" and didn't want folks to get the wrong idea. Yet no mention of the Hyperblades delivered damaged? Food for thought. MalakiSkywalker, I'm with you on this. I also thing they were delivered damaged. Just perplexed why it was never mentoined, because it can give folks the wrong idea that they were damaged from thrashing/bashing. Which we don't see video footage of.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
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I'm sorry, do I know you Malaki? What's wrong with asking how the Hyperbaldes ended up the way they are in the video. I believe there's more to the story then what's on the video. Keep in mind Greytale deleted my same question before when I asked it. In fact twice before. Which says he doesn't want to answer it. Why did he delete it twice? Malaki, what do you think happened. Is it's A or B? Can you furthur explain what my true colors are?
thedisturbance 4 years ago
do you mean better LED's will probably be made or they are being developed now and are being released in around 6 months. if so are you talking about ultrasabers selling these?
Leumas357 4 years ago
LED technologies (like most others) are always in motion, always improving. This likely means that both the "Luxeon saber" and Hyperdyne and/or MR style saber (soon-to-be Hasbro) will all benefit!
greytale 4 years ago
LOL the ending was priceless. A wonderful "OH SHI-" moment.
Man, that's a lot of possibilities. The Flanges look amazing as usual. I'm going to go look up the Hyperdyne stuff, find out more about the technology. Which do you like better?
Ionhelen 4 years ago
Well, I don't have a lot of exp. w/ H-blades. But, if you absolutely need my opinion, it's about staged-combat worthiness, low-cost, good balance, runtime, and easy & inexpensive repair/blade change. Very important to ME. So, in my thinking--the Luxeon style has the advantage.
It's also only a matter of time (<6 months?) as to when newer LEDs that are twice as bright can be "popped" into any given Luxeon-style saber. For like... $8 to $15. Without changing the fwd voltage much. :)
greytale 4 years ago
Sweet; I agree, I'd like to be able to beat people with it and it not cost me a fortune. The newer LEDs, are they a new type of Luxeon, or another brand?
Yeah, from what I've seen the H-blades seem a little less durable, since those black spots tend to occur after a good beating.
Ionhelen 4 years ago
That dark spot is not from the beating. Greytale recieved it like that.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
Actually you do not know that, Mark. I can speak for myself regarding these props, thank you.
As far as I know--the dark spots DID indeed come from a good thrashing/beating. Why else would they occur? Breathing on it incorrectly? Being viewed improperly...?
greytale 4 years ago
Did the dark spots happen on your watch?
thedisturbance 4 years ago
No, they occurred on the saber (AS SEEN IN THE OTHER COMPARISON VIDEO). I do not wear a watch...
greytale 4 years ago
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Again. Please answer the following. Is it A or B?
A)Dark sports were the result from previous owner thrashing/beating the Hyperblades.
OR
B) Both Hyperblades were damaged in the same spot from heavy thrashing/beatings by you.
Deleting my post and jake23masters post simply signifies you're afraid to answer a direct question. Deleting this post will furthur confirm the truth you're trying to hide.
thedisturbance 4 years ago
cool
h1a1l1l1o 4 years ago
Do all the hyperdyne sabers have that little thing at the top? Like the little darkened spot? That sucks!
sasukesarut0bi 4 years ago
No. What happens is--over time and smacking the saber against things--solder joints/wiring fails, and certain portions of the LED strip that is housed inside the blade will... not behave correctly.
As is seen here. But, no--the H-blade is not "new"... it had most certainly been used.
greytale 4 years ago
mmmmm, me likes the colors. X_X
acidglow 4 years ago
all the swords on the left r the same power and more lighter than the onbes on the left but the ones on the elft make a game sound. they sound like the jedi academy games.
metallover344 4 years ago
Dang. Poor Graflex. Hope everything made it out alright.
About Hyperdyne blades, they're pretty dang bright if you ask me! Not very durable but still, pretty good stuff.
Jedi554 4 years ago
Awesome as always, Greytale.
frostvectron 4 years ago
Nice video Novastar. The Gralex clamp looks like it wasn't tight enough and the forward section just twisted a little and it came unlocked. That's happened to me before with a Luxeon Graflex and shouldn't be a mark against the Hyperdyne setup. The tip flying off.....well, I can't say that never happens with a Lux blade either, as you know. So again, it's not something unique the the Hyperdyne blade. I'd like to see a more agressive durability test though.
CorbinDas 4 years ago
Right... I've said it before, I'll say it again--the Graflex falling apart has NOTHING to do with Hyperdyne Labs.
As to the tip, indeed--same thing--I've seen them fly off of Luxeons too. I just found it FUNNY... so I posted that part of the video. Me and my twisted sense of humor... :)
greytale 4 years ago
So whos Hyperblades are they?
obscuredblood 4 years ago
ROFL. I love the moment when the graflex hilt flies apart, though that's just because it's a graflex saber.
And wow. Compared to seeing the sabers in a setting with lots of ambient light, they do look alot more even in lower ambient light settings. That's amazing. Just furthers my belief that Lux is still the best bang for the buck...and hey! if Lux comes really close to Hypers in doing so, so much the better.
darthmaniac 4 years ago
I still have to give the blue Luxeon that is a good "like color comparison" an actual GOOD blade. By luck, it was probably one of the only Lux blades with the MR diffuser and NO mirror tip.
So, in reality--the blue tests were biased a bit in favor of the Hyperdyne. Which is fine. People can see all the overall goings on here...
greytale 4 years ago
Wow,Thats A Hell Of an Ending,Hope Everything Still Works
cindrollic 4 years ago
It does! And for the record--I think that is a GRAFLEX problem... NOT something that Jim/Hyperdyne did.
Let me make that CLEAR. The Graflex falling apart is NOT something anyone should be blaming Jim for! It was just funny, so I kept it in the video. I had no idea it was going to come apart like that!!!!
greytale 4 years ago
Where'd you get them?
NeoShadow8 4 years ago
(Edwin comment part 1)
Great non-bias comparison with Lux-Hyperdyne. This is about what I expected, Hyper-blue beats luxeon soundly, green is a much closer fight.
See in this video how much better the BLADE is made on Novastars personal CF driven flange sabers? You can EASILY tell Novastars is very even. The light flaring on the carpet is a dead give-away. Compare to JediBum's Hyperblade Vs. 5Watt Green video... he has much more hilt flaring i.e. light lost in the hilt.
Eandori 4 years ago 2
Exactly :)
obscuredblood 4 years ago
(Edwin comment part 2)
A green K2 seems close to a Hyperblade on setting 10. Lux V at 1 amp is brighter and it would have been EVEN CLOSER to the Hyperblade. A well built blade makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
If I want the best value, go with luxeon hands down and make the blade good. If I want brightest with some value, Hyperblade for blue, Luxeon for green/red. Nearly as bright, but FAR more durable, cheaper, and 6x-18x battery life? That's just better.
Great comparison Novastar!
Eandori 4 years ago
Hyperblades are ok-ish, but Luxeons are just to popular and a lot cheaper for the Hyperblade to be the best and as for the sound board, i couldn't have it in my saber personally. But as we have seen in this video luxeons are getting very brighter nowadays and soon there will be a super K2 or something lol
obscuredblood 4 years ago
Greytale, thanks for taking the time to test all those configurations, clearly showing what kind of results can be obtained with low quality luxeon blades and better ones. Significant differences are presented in this exhaustive test. The hyperblade probably remains brighter but the aura of light is not so bigger than the radiation of the K2 for instance.
Now, last test to be done : overdriven lux V and a hyperblade v2 !
Again, thanks for taking the time to do that,
Erv'
irvinplecter 4 years ago 2
Damn! That's freaking bright.
I like the pulse effect, that's cool.
Rock On!
CyberLeech205 4 years ago
Hey Tim, long time no chat... glad you liked seeing the comparsions!!
greytale 4 years ago