wow your looking good for how you discribed him before. and did you use tying up methed like; the horses leg? if not then what would have happened if you did and how would it efect the horse/ if you will sometime or if you all ready did what methed would you use and how will it efect the horse?
I keep meaning to intreview the vet who saw him the first he was here . Taking blood work on him and so we could rule something physical..i
first I pulled and realise the rope.. Then when he got up the pressure i put rope around the horn of the saddle but didnt tie it up..Just held it.. of some people wouldnt believe it because they havent a horse like him. If you didnt pull that foot up .. He would strike out bad ,, on a horse like this you have to do what you have to do..
all them ropes all over the ground around your feet and the horses feet is not safe at all. Should try shorter ropes before the horse gets tangled and takes off and you just happened to have it all tangled around your feet too from all the turning around you do and he drags you with him. It almost happened to me! But anyways, he is looking pretty good at 7:11The ears are really staying on you. Beautiful horse. And you are right, there is something wrong when he pees like that. That aint normal.
well you are more likely right about the ropes.. but using so long ropes for so many years ... dont think about it and I have been lucky . LOL now if they was flat loung like lines then I would worry.. because they dont fall like arope does. since they are flat a horse gets one of them around a leg they just tighten up.Oh I dont care about what people say about the dogs... I would bet if you saw thier horse ,something would be lacking
Yes you are right about the flat lines! Those damn things might as well have warning signs all over them. They burn your hand right off if you have to hold onto a horse! You should check out my videos of my young trickhorse,Chinook, on my channel. I think youll enjoy them. Comment please! :)
I am a young trainer in Canada and I will be heading to Calafornia this fall. Is that where you are located? I am planning to visit many training barns, perhaps you would be open for a visit?
When I am working with horses, I always expect my dogs to stay out of the arena, and especialy out of the round pen, part of the reason is I dont want the dog at risk of geting kicked or stepped on. They also irritate me.
But guys, give him a break, if he wants the dog in there, let him have the dog in there! Its not a big deal.
I know a lot of people have given you guff about the dog, but I think it's great that you're letting you're pooch "help" out. It's a great way to desensitize a horse while training, and you require so much respect from your horses, they don't even seem to notice the dog. Great job, your experience shows very well in this video!
I trained 3 horses one a stallion,2 never been touched. My stud first colt was sold well trained. and he acted similer to yours and looked the same when we got him back he was about 5 years, I was getting somewhere with him till we got him cut, vet use a screw gun clamped to his testies, and he died due to lost of blood, if I were you I'd get him checked he acts too much like a stud, he's still aggressive while peeing. Dogs do interfer with training and can make them more iritated,
first off get off the dog thing.. been doing horses now more likely older than you and always have had a dog with me..They get over it. We had this horse tested backwords and forward,, Even got a big unverisite involved with the horse... I am not a back yard type of guy .. First thing I always do is to make sure it isnt physical...
at my riding school we have a new thoroughbred horse called jake hes no way like this but he hAS no respect for people or horses u go past him hes trying to bite u kick u fine when riden just he doesnt like anyone near him i meen im not worried for my self because i can handle him and im training him but its the either little kids or new people who dnt no
This is good. Thank you for working with him in ways that he understood and for giving him a second chance. I wish i could also train horses in this way because it is so awful to watch horses be misunderstood and mishandled.
Im so glad my horse never showed his anxiety through aggression. he was just scared and tried to run away most of the time. good job, no horse is hopeless, they just need patience and the right trainer.
Well I get tired of comments on the dogs this horse get you dogs or not dogs.. now if you are the trail what you going to say ,,,, I am coming put your dogs uppppppp.lol
I'm amazed at how ignorant people on here are, posting negatively. I believe you handled the situation well, those "sensitive" to the whole roping his rump and under his tail seriously don't understand the concept of it. Not only is it a great tool for A) Trust (aka not gonna eat him), but it also makes him prime for ponying. Any average joe horse out of a stall would freak with a rope under their tail.
i believe you handled this horse extremly well. not only did he listen, he became very comfortable with your cues and your presence rather quickly which shows the amazing communication, and the inteligence you both share. that was wonderful :) he'll turn ut to be a spectacular horse
It's sad when a animal has been abused to the point that it won't trust anyone and feels that it has to lash out at any human that comes near it.
One prob with Youtube is that you have so many bleeding hearts that are so afriad of hurting the horse that they're afraid of seeing what needs to be done.
All you guys can really say alot, you dont know this horse, and as he says hes been working with him for a while, the horse is kind of used to him... personally when any of ou put up a video showing you doing this ill listen. this horse isnt aggressive towards him at the beginning. so basically, the training is working.
beautiful horse=)
i hope he turns out lovely when you have finished =)
I don't understand why you guys are criticizing him. He isn't hurting him and the horse seems quite healthy. His feet look fine. They sound fine too. That clanking is just the dirt under his feet. When he strikes out at the woman in the beginning he's clearly being aggressive. And what does posture have to do with lunging? As for the dog, I hope he doesn't get kicked, but horses need to learn to focus in distracting situations and it doesn't seem to bother the horse. Back off people.
I don't see any agression. I see a VERY smart horse. I can tell by his curiousity. He's learned to be like this. You were totally rude in your cues with this horse. Horses like this are highly sensitive that's true but you need to comunicate. Your cues where dreadful and your posture was EVERY where. Not saying you're abusing him, but this could be done with more respect and repor for him.
If you only knew,,,,,, I will be putting up a intreview with a vet... he will let you all know how bad he was. but you have a right to your opion even thou ,,, you havent seen the whole picture...
...and aggression can come from a hurt stifle or shoulder if that injury came about by past beatings! Horses are far more intelligent than the majority give them credit for. As for ´handling´ his anxieties as you say, how about slowing down. He´s clearly still not happy being lunged without the stress of you lassoing his rump! Deal with one thing at a time.
You know you do bring up stuff , and all of things was address..If you saw him the first time I did thou you wont even ask... If seems you are in the mind set one there is no bad horses,,Well that is llike thinking there is no bad people. This horse af first would run across a pasture to charge a person.. That doesnt come from a bad stifle or hurt shoulder..
You said it. People, like horses, aren´t born bad. Something happens in their lives to turn them that way. Thing is with people its people but with horses its also people. Lack of knowledge, fear etc. Horses don´t understand aggression, retribution, punishment. They act in the instant. But you don´t respond regarding the dog or that metal clanging sound! I have reschooled stallions considered very dangerous by their ignorant previous trainer or owner, usually THEIR deep seated fear
Some blood lines of horse are born that way you have the right to think the way you do.. Now with this horse,,,, he saw to many treats and the damn carrot stick to mu..ch ..So any tools you could use was taken away from it because someone got carried away.. Also you dont have any idea how bad this horse...We went thru tons of stuff with the vet and how to decide how to approach.. EVERYone was scared of this horse even the vet...
Go out to the pasture and watch a boss mare and an unruly colt. Write down everything you see. THEN tell me that horses don't understand agression.
Also, tell me why in the world a horse should be trained in a sterile environment? I don't want to pay for a horse to be trained just to get him back and find out that he's still agressive around dogs, or that he's afraid of loud sounds, or that he can't handle the rain...
Man, you 'natural horsemanship' people need to get a LIFE
You constantly say he has anxieties - a flight animal being constantly corralled by a predator just might be aggravating the situation don´t you think? Get the dog out the way. The only time I saw his ears back was when you smacked him in the face. I hear loose shoes, I see long feet and I see fear when you noose his rear - past beatings/pains/injuries in stifle/shoulders or many other reasons for his ´aggression´. Have any of these things been addressed?
You do not destroy an animal just because some idiot treated him like crap and now he doesn't trust humans. He needs rehabilitated. Maybe leaving the dog indoors next time during training would be wise. I think the dog just added to the stress. I feel for this horse:(
If that horse is aggressive I must have work with monsters. I think he looks pretty kind, a little on his toes and a little sulky at some moments. but not aggressive.
wow your looking good for how you discribed him before. and did you use tying up methed like; the horses leg? if not then what would have happened if you did and how would it efect the horse/ if you will sometime or if you all ready did what methed would you use and how will it efect the horse?
yahamagirl160 2 years ago 5
I keep meaning to intreview the vet who saw him the first he was here . Taking blood work on him and so we could rule something physical..i
first I pulled and realise the rope.. Then when he got up the pressure i put rope around the horn of the saddle but didnt tie it up..Just held it.. of some people wouldnt believe it because they havent a horse like him. If you didnt pull that foot up .. He would strike out bad ,, on a horse like this you have to do what you have to do..
david12000000 2 years ago 4
all them ropes all over the ground around your feet and the horses feet is not safe at all. Should try shorter ropes before the horse gets tangled and takes off and you just happened to have it all tangled around your feet too from all the turning around you do and he drags you with him. It almost happened to me! But anyways, he is looking pretty good at 7:11The ears are really staying on you. Beautiful horse. And you are right, there is something wrong when he pees like that. That aint normal.
Hudson2012 2 years ago 4
well you are more likely right about the ropes.. but using so long ropes for so many years ... dont think about it and I have been lucky . LOL now if they was flat loung like lines then I would worry.. because they dont fall like arope does. since they are flat a horse gets one of them around a leg they just tighten up.Oh I dont care about what people say about the dogs... I would bet if you saw thier horse ,something would be lacking
david12000000 2 years ago 4
probably lol
Yes you are right about the flat lines! Those damn things might as well have warning signs all over them. They burn your hand right off if you have to hold onto a horse! You should check out my videos of my young trickhorse,Chinook, on my channel. I think youll enjoy them. Comment please! :)
I am a young trainer in Canada and I will be heading to Calafornia this fall. Is that where you are located? I am planning to visit many training barns, perhaps you would be open for a visit?
Hudson2012 2 years ago
I am in southern CA you are welcome to stop by..I will have to go look
david12000000 2 years ago
When I am working with horses, I always expect my dogs to stay out of the arena, and especialy out of the round pen, part of the reason is I dont want the dog at risk of geting kicked or stepped on. They also irritate me.
But guys, give him a break, if he wants the dog in there, let him have the dog in there! Its not a big deal.
Hudson2012 2 years ago 25
I know a lot of people have given you guff about the dog, but I think it's great that you're letting you're pooch "help" out. It's a great way to desensitize a horse while training, and you require so much respect from your horses, they don't even seem to notice the dog. Great job, your experience shows very well in this video!
S0XF0X 2 years ago 8
People are idiots.. but you sir are a horseman...
gcoxalaska 2 years ago 50
I trained 3 horses one a stallion,2 never been touched. My stud first colt was sold well trained. and he acted similer to yours and looked the same when we got him back he was about 5 years, I was getting somewhere with him till we got him cut, vet use a screw gun clamped to his testies, and he died due to lost of blood, if I were you I'd get him checked he acts too much like a stud, he's still aggressive while peeing. Dogs do interfer with training and can make them more iritated,
southrengirl1 2 years ago
first off get off the dog thing.. been doing horses now more likely older than you and always have had a dog with me..They get over it. We had this horse tested backwords and forward,, Even got a big unverisite involved with the horse... I am not a back yard type of guy .. First thing I always do is to make sure it isnt physical...
david12000000 2 years ago 10
at my riding school we have a new thoroughbred horse called jake hes no way like this but he hAS no respect for people or horses u go past him hes trying to bite u kick u fine when riden just he doesnt like anyone near him i meen im not worried for my self because i can handle him and im training him but its the either little kids or new people who dnt no
Horseloverkooder 2 years ago
You are awesome dude. Coming from me, that means something. He obviously wasabused by someone.
fifthavenuegirl 2 years ago 2
wow your awesome!
Horses4ever8 2 years ago
Finally someone on here who understands a horses language
Alicat0909 2 years ago
This is good. Thank you for working with him in ways that he understood and for giving him a second chance. I wish i could also train horses in this way because it is so awful to watch horses be misunderstood and mishandled.
indysk8r32 2 years ago
beautiful horse, too
SliferNorth 2 years ago
Im so glad my horse never showed his anxiety through aggression. he was just scared and tried to run away most of the time. good job, no horse is hopeless, they just need patience and the right trainer.
FlippyAddiction 2 years ago
Interesting ideas and methods...but I think you need some video editing software! ;)
ilmjumper 2 years ago
Well I get tired of comments on the dogs this horse get you dogs or not dogs.. now if you are the trail what you going to say ,,,, I am coming put your dogs uppppppp.lol
david12000000 2 years ago 2
I'm amazed at how ignorant people on here are, posting negatively. I believe you handled the situation well, those "sensitive" to the whole roping his rump and under his tail seriously don't understand the concept of it. Not only is it a great tool for A) Trust (aka not gonna eat him), but it also makes him prime for ponying. Any average joe horse out of a stall would freak with a rope under their tail.
Well done, David, keep it up :)
KendraHarvey 2 years ago
i believe you handled this horse extremly well. not only did he listen, he became very comfortable with your cues and your presence rather quickly which shows the amazing communication, and the inteligence you both share. that was wonderful :) he'll turn ut to be a spectacular horse
Arctyka 2 years ago
the funny thing is that it is like no one is noticeing he is charging some on the rail and that was mild
david12000000 2 years ago
It's sad when a animal has been abused to the point that it won't trust anyone and feels that it has to lash out at any human that comes near it.
One prob with Youtube is that you have so many bleeding hearts that are so afriad of hurting the horse that they're afraid of seeing what needs to be done.
He is a beautiful horse.
DrPepperandOreos 2 years ago
All you guys can really say alot, you dont know this horse, and as he says hes been working with him for a while, the horse is kind of used to him... personally when any of ou put up a video showing you doing this ill listen. this horse isnt aggressive towards him at the beginning. so basically, the training is working.
beautiful horse=)
i hope he turns out lovely when you have finished =)
AdoreTheIrony 2 years ago
I don't understand why you guys are criticizing him. He isn't hurting him and the horse seems quite healthy. His feet look fine. They sound fine too. That clanking is just the dirt under his feet. When he strikes out at the woman in the beginning he's clearly being aggressive. And what does posture have to do with lunging? As for the dog, I hope he doesn't get kicked, but horses need to learn to focus in distracting situations and it doesn't seem to bother the horse. Back off people.
storm15918 2 years ago
I don't see any agression. I see a VERY smart horse. I can tell by his curiousity. He's learned to be like this. You were totally rude in your cues with this horse. Horses like this are highly sensitive that's true but you need to comunicate. Your cues where dreadful and your posture was EVERY where. Not saying you're abusing him, but this could be done with more respect and repor for him.
BlazingAva 2 years ago 4
If you only knew,,,,,, I will be putting up a intreview with a vet... he will let you all know how bad he was. but you have a right to your opion even thou ,,, you havent seen the whole picture...
david12000000 2 years ago
...and aggression can come from a hurt stifle or shoulder if that injury came about by past beatings! Horses are far more intelligent than the majority give them credit for. As for ´handling´ his anxieties as you say, how about slowing down. He´s clearly still not happy being lunged without the stress of you lassoing his rump! Deal with one thing at a time.
LaRanaTJ 2 years ago
You know you do bring up stuff , and all of things was address..If you saw him the first time I did thou you wont even ask... If seems you are in the mind set one there is no bad horses,,Well that is llike thinking there is no bad people. This horse af first would run across a pasture to charge a person.. That doesnt come from a bad stifle or hurt shoulder..
david12000000 2 years ago
You said it. People, like horses, aren´t born bad. Something happens in their lives to turn them that way. Thing is with people its people but with horses its also people. Lack of knowledge, fear etc. Horses don´t understand aggression, retribution, punishment. They act in the instant. But you don´t respond regarding the dog or that metal clanging sound! I have reschooled stallions considered very dangerous by their ignorant previous trainer or owner, usually THEIR deep seated fear
LaRanaTJ 2 years ago
Some blood lines of horse are born that way you have the right to think the way you do.. Now with this horse,,,, he saw to many treats and the damn carrot stick to mu..ch ..So any tools you could use was taken away from it because someone got carried away.. Also you dont have any idea how bad this horse...We went thru tons of stuff with the vet and how to decide how to approach.. EVERYone was scared of this horse even the vet...
david12000000 2 years ago
Go out to the pasture and watch a boss mare and an unruly colt. Write down everything you see. THEN tell me that horses don't understand agression.
Also, tell me why in the world a horse should be trained in a sterile environment? I don't want to pay for a horse to be trained just to get him back and find out that he's still agressive around dogs, or that he's afraid of loud sounds, or that he can't handle the rain...
Man, you 'natural horsemanship' people need to get a LIFE
topperhatschire 2 years ago 3
I agree with you,,I have horse in now that another been riding it,, but finding alot of wholes because of training in a sterile environment..
david12000000 2 years ago
You constantly say he has anxieties - a flight animal being constantly corralled by a predator just might be aggravating the situation don´t you think? Get the dog out the way. The only time I saw his ears back was when you smacked him in the face. I hear loose shoes, I see long feet and I see fear when you noose his rear - past beatings/pains/injuries in stifle/shoulders or many other reasons for his ´aggression´. Have any of these things been addressed?
LaRanaTJ 2 years ago
is THAT agressive?
StrrawBerryx 2 years ago
You do not destroy an animal just because some idiot treated him like crap and now he doesn't trust humans. He needs rehabilitated. Maybe leaving the dog indoors next time during training would be wise. I think the dog just added to the stress. I feel for this horse:(
steph062778 2 years ago
If that horse is aggressive I must have work with monsters. I think he looks pretty kind, a little on his toes and a little sulky at some moments. but not aggressive.
Mos410 2 years ago
Wow ... well done!
What happend to Pepper, that he's as aggressive as that?
xXBlondPrincessXx 2 years ago
cover your mouth with your hand
2.make a wish into it
3.close your hand (make it into a fist)
4.hold your hand (the fist) to your heart for five seconds
5.send to 3 more videos
6.tommorow will be the best day of your life
vixon225 2 years ago
Why save him? because he deserves it!
and nothing goes better with horses than dogs....all good horse people know that.
climbshigh 2 years ago
Well all I have to point and he would get out... But I dont horse's have to get use to him...I will not train a horse in a sterile setting.
david12000000 2 years ago
Training your dog to go shade up would be a great idea..
pdj47 2 years ago
why would you want save a horse like this? Suppose someone gets him that does not have your skill?
waytogoranch 2 years ago
i was worried the dog was gunna get kickeed, but good work (:
Namiipoo 2 years ago
wow truly amazing. u are like a horse wisperer
herewefly 2 years ago
Excellent work.
krapetats1 2 years ago
Good work!
Cessnacaptain 3 years ago
Get a water hose its constant and the horse cant kick it free
215jami 3 years ago