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  • 0:05 the 250r spun like crazy + it was up hill.

  • 450r is the best

  • You say Raptor 700, I say Quadzilla. You say TRX450r, I say 250R. You say Grizzly 700 EFI, I say Polaris Trail Blazer. You say 4 wheeler, I say dirt bike!

  • a stock 250r is slower than a 450..

  • just fucking read dirtwheels the 250r gets up to 74mph faster than a 450r gets up to 74 whcih is top speed of both

  • @stanleytherat yo bro. my 450 goes over 80 mph.......just sayin.

  • @stanleytherat thats false. my 450 was clocked at 86 stock with the hrc power up bolt on kit..

  • @Bsuth72 you say its stock then you say the mods you have done...which makes it "not -stock"

  • @stanleytherat engine is stock..dumb ass. hrc power up kit is a bolt on accessory that helps make the exhaust run cooler and gives better compression. also adds a few hp but the engine is still stock....i still wouldnt say its modded because its really not.

  • @Bsuth72 ok jesus i just read that the top speed is 74 from a reliable source...dont get so bent out of shape about it

  • @Bsuth72 not trying to start nothing but the hrc on the 06 and newer hondas include a cam, so to me it would be a mod.

  • Might I remind you there is a twenty year span of new technology between the two that's like expecting an old mustang to beat a new SLR or other sports car today

  • @TheCorbin315 my 250r spanked a banshee watch my video 250r vs banshee, 20 years of tech does not matter ,sincerely mrtwistedwheeler

  • @MrTwistedwheeler the banshee's engine is based on a 1970 street bike so it hasn't improved much over the years either

  • the 250r should have smoked the yamaha's ass in short and long track.no comparison! hands down! anyone who is not a dumbass will tell you this.now eat the 250r's dust you sneiveling little cunt! hahaha! how does it taste? dont ever fuck wit da 2 stroke lil bitch!

  • @salamonetalton what yamaha, there both honda's dumass

  • @salamonetalton foreal atc 250rs arnt even that fast compared to a new 450r....like bitch all you want atc 250rs arnt that fast....

  • @soxonmyfeet listen. a atv 250r will beat a trx450. iv had one before. those things rip. dont say i never road a trx450 because i have. my ltr rapes em btw hahahahahhahahha.

  • @soxonmyfeet ill put my R agaist anything u own, and beat it.

  • @live2ski550 .i ride a 660 raptor nothing special you might get me. i used to have a trx250r when they where new and just thinking of that and a buddys ltr450..i just think a 450r would get atc250r forsure

  • @salamonetalton long live the 250r atc honda,,,,,,,

  • looks like the guy on the 250r didnt know it was a race, more like casually headed up for a beer

  • a 250r will get smoked by a 450 netime u dumb fucks

  • @JLBURNERBRUSONBURNER and whys that sinse your so smart?

  • @PaintballShyguy JLBURNERBRUNSONBURNER has no idea wut he's talkin about

  • @JLBURNERBRUSONBURNER Dumb fucks?Is that why ive never lost to one?and ive raced plenty

  • @the250rRacer If you've never lost to someone you aren't racing fast enough people, in racing there's ALWAYS someone faster!

  • @bsquadrider Im not riding fast enough?if I never lost?and I completly agree with you on that.of course im not going to race full out drag bikes.

  • ya the 250r blows away the 450 any day me an my buddy did the same race on dirt and the 250r blew it away by a mile

  • ya that 250r could have out ran it in long track but short 450r would win easy

  • @mrclaytonio Eh, not really, the 250r will still beat him in the short.

  • A 250r wins every race so theres no way he was going full speed.

  • there is no why in hell that can beat a 250r i know cause i have a 250 and my brother has a trx 450 and i beat him all the time

  • the 250 was spinning out no doubt because dragging on grass isnt a good test for drag speed unfair race in my opinion

  • I believe the 450 R was on the same grass,Doesn't matter where you put it. the 450 r is still going to hand it its ass

  • yo i got a 82 250r and i know its alot faster than the 1 in this vid. he must not have been tryn cuz he shld have smoked that 450. no doubt.

  • the guy on the 250r isnt even trying. i own a 07 400z and an 85 350x.there very equl in races.and all the people talkin about 660 raptors. the 660 raptor is slow off the star my 400z whoops the crap out of 700 raptors from 0-50mph then the raptor well pass me for the win. but in small 100-150 yard drags the raptors are not good. but i like the raptor there cool machines.

  • @keith350x the 700 is terrible the 660 is a lot quicker they r geared way different ! 660 will kill the 700

  • @sledhead180 250r will kill both!!!!Well atleast when im driving my bike...the guy in this vid would loose

  • two equal riders and the 2 stoke will win, if they're stock

  • You can get away with it, just gotta kiss the front tire ;)

  • @sfproductions97 extend the swing arm and you'll win

  • trikes will almost always win a race if someone that knows how to ride them is racing i grew up on trikes and have never flipped one

  • it all has to do with tha rider most def! if they are tha same rider skill tha 250 should beat it but idk by how much never ridden a 450

  • I have all 3.... If my 450r is geard down to a 13t it stays next to the built trx250r and built atc250r.... But hands down the built 450r smokes the 250's! All three are super fast and run strong and all 3 are blast to ride! Sooo stick with Honda and ride forever!

  • i love it that this dude says he has all three but no videos of either

  • No one knows what was done to either of the bikes and the riders have alot to do with it also

  • the trx 450r will wip the 250r any day

  • uhhm no?

  • no way a 250r is a 450 eater

  • doubt that!

  • the atc should have killed that 450. i just don't think the guy riding the 250r knew what he was doing.

  • Weight also has a lot to do with it. If the guy on the 250 likes Cheeseburgers then that's a big disadvantage. But those 250r's are very lightweight. It's tough getting off the line without hitting a wheelie.

  • haha! yeah. they are very lightweight.

  • nice way of explaining it though i would think that a 250r four wheeler would beat a 450r not an ATC because i heard they arent very sporty but i could have it all wrong. lol cheeseburgers made me rofl

  • your right man that 250r should have killed it!

  • yeah, i really dont think the guy on the 250r was shifting all that great. the 250r shuouldve put up more of a fight, cuz my 1985 250r is insanely fast.

  • @TheRush250r Lol yeah, sounded like he was babying it. Had he nailed the gas and went into 4th, that 450 would have been left in the dust.

  • wow that was a shocker... i figured the atc would win cuz theyre effen amazing. wat a shame..

  • it's on a hill, 4 stroke vs 2 storke on an incline means 2 stroke loses....unless that 2 smoke has some major drag/port work

  • its a uphill drag 250r has no tourk compare 2 450r

  • that and the guy os the 3 most suck

  • the trike has got gold rims so it must be an 85 or 86

  • fuck no, 86 they stoped producing them and made the trx 250r

  • 4 wheelers suck ass no matter how big they are

  • thats strange, i heard your mom sucks ass too, and she is pretty big...

  • was that the best you could come up with?

  • not really, but it fit, so hell... why think any harder? lol

  • Ya definatley the 450's rule on the hills because of the the torque! Just depends on what you have done to your bike.

  • Listening to all these internet addicts yap about bikes they have never seen in person makes me proud to go out enjoy my trx 450r and 250r trike stock for stock the 450 bags it so sorry all you 80s fans there fast and fun but there torque just isnt there

  • well the 250r did a pretty good job at keeping up though

  • i know my trikes i have and 85 the motor is sitting on the bench right now.i had to split the cases and put a new gasket in it because it was leaking oil

  • You're all a bunch of tool bags. There are a thousand factors that can change the outcome of these races.

    Maybe the 250R has motor problems. Maybe the 250R rider sucks balls. Maybe the 450R has an engine kit etc...

    You cannot determine anything from this video. There are plent of 250R's that will beat 450's, but there are plenty of 450's that will be 250R's.

    And all you R fans, don't get on my case. My pride and joy is my '85 atc 250R. I love it!

  • Dude. you're a fucking moron. THEY ARE RACING UPHILL. 2 stroke = TOP END. 4 stroke = TORQUE.

    RACES ON HILLS CATER TOWARDS BIKES WITH TORQUE.

  • A good running ATC250R will beat a TRX450R. That's all there is to it. This video here is not how a typical race between the two would go. Too many unknown factors to give an accurate reason why the 250R did not win. 450's are fast, and I do like them, but prefer a 2 stroke.

  • not necessarily. the only reason why the 450r won is obvious. it has more torque, and when going up a hill, torque is gonna get you the win. in a flat drag, the 250 r would smoke the 450.

  • think about the motorcycles.. the ama switched to 4 strokes. i know because of emissions but they are also faster. when i go to the local track the 450 will pull out of the corner faster every time. i have a 450r 4-wheeler and can smoke a 250r quad and catwalk by a banshee.. but my can-am 800xt takes the cake in all the races

  • that 250r must not be an 85 because it would have beat that 450

  • u must not no ur trikes cause its either a 85 or 86

  • i can see how that 250 would be hard to keep the front end down but i mean... theres no reason it should have lost..should have bin in front from the get go... it wouldnt have spun up oif you knew how to drive the thing..

  • ...2-strokes have bottom end speed but bad acceleration...4-strokes have the bottom end torque so umm that shot your theory out the ass rly =/ That is going by that they're both stock that is

  • two strokes have bad acceleration? Have you ever ridden a good two stroke bike?

  • two strokes r built for racing and good acceleration wat in the crap r tlking about??

  • I gurantee you a 450 4-stroke will accelerate through its bottom end WAY faster than a 2-stroke becuz bottom end on a 4-stroke is like 0-5 5-10 10-25 then the top end is all speed bottom end on a 2-stroke is so long...I rode a blaster 200 very wild but bad accel. I coudln't catch up to a BIG BEAR 250 UTILITY until I made it to the top end..

    but maybe this is becuz it is a blaster; blasters maybe suck then..I've raced a banshee with a 250ex and was ahead until half way through 3rd..so idk

  • PS check your compression ratio on your 2-strokes then check a compression ratio on your 4-stroke race...

    I am not searchign all day for the 250r becuz there is so many to look at but here is a 2-stroke I am familar with

    Blaster Ratio: 6.6:1

    Honda 450r Ratio: 12.0:1

    That stuff is kinda kewl

  • You know nothing about 2 strokes. GTFO.

  • those people dont no how to ride on pavement or ice a 250r would win

  • but there not ridin on ice or pavement and even if it was on a dif. cond. there are to many factors that determine the winner

  • the grass was wet, all the 250R did was spin. put them on pavement...

  • My 250r would win :D

    (Built piped keihin 39mm reeds etc.)

    <3 comes with 3 wheels.

  • the person riding the 250R must really fucking suck because the two stroke engine has WAY more top end, and is much lighter. it should smoke the 450. only time the 450 will beat the 250r is off the line.

  • The guy riding the 250r ate rocks for lunch.....

  • 250r would smoke u just have to have balls

  • its all about who gets the power 2 the ground and starting with a 3 wheeler is alot harder then a 4 wheeler 4 wheeler wins every time

  • not really.... they both have 2 powered tires on the ground

  • its hard to keep the front end of the atc down... especially because this is an up hill race.

  • moron.. think about it.. youhave half a front end on a three wheeler.. 3 times lighter than anything on 4 wheeler... 2 stroke vs 4 stroke.. a whole SHITLOAD of factors determine who wins the race..

  • yeah the 250r should have won that

  • guys look at his other vids. There is one a 3 250Rs dragging, this guy was the slowest of the Rs

  • BULL SHIT

  • bullshit the 250r isnt even trying.

  • come on the ATC should have had a 1-2 bike advantage on the 450R

    :!

  • The guy on the 250r must not have even been trying.

  • wow just faster than my 350x....

  • MP racing used to modify cylinders to make them work on R engines, but MP went out of business. If you look up "Polonda engine" on Google, you'll find an article about it on ATV Connection with videos from 2001. The one they tested was a 389cc and had 75 horsepower; they also made one in 440cc & 490cc all on the stock R crank. With a stroker, you can probably go into the 500's. Or you could get a Pro-X 370, or a "Sabertooth" kit that makes it a 500. Any of them could beat a 450r hands down.

  • Get the cases modified and put a ported Polaris Scrambler 400 or Sportsman 400 cylinder on your stock R bottom end. No 450r will ever touch you in a race again. Even a heavily modded Banshee would have a hard time keeping up.

  • is that possible?

  • usaok ur completely wrong 450r's are stock at 38 - 40 hp while a trx/atc 250r is at about 35 - 36 stock but as soon as you get into mods that 250r is gunna kill the 450r

  • no a 450r comes stock with like 31hp sorry

  • If the person in the 450r doesn't do any mods in his 450r. My 450r engine is build buy"Dasa" and kicks out 53hp recording buy dyno test.Way more hp then the stock 450r.

    Honda Rider#7

  • ya that 250r shoulda won by a mile my neighbor has one its quit fast lol

  • there making 4 strokes just as fast as 2 strokes now a days

  • 250rs have 28 horsepower and weigh 280 pounds 450rs have 32 and weigh 350 pounds the 250 is a 2 stroke so it can drag better the r should've won

  • so i can't decide between getting a banshee or a 450r, i do a few trails and ride on open field roads what do yall think?

  • get a 450r there way better for trail riding and way more comfortable and jsut a lot better for the ridding u do

  • got the 450r...it kicks MAJOR ass...

  • i would of got the banshee, their beasts, but i like 2 strokes

  • my 450 has pro circuit exhaust system aftermarket airbox lid k&n filter cam hrc kit smaller sprocket new jets....it is THE beast...plus i love honda=)

  • yea its all about honda

  • honda ftw

  • it was fixed type 450r vs 250r in search and 90% of the time the atc wins

  • Nah the 250R should have had him by a long shot. I own a 85 Tecate and I know I would have LOL

  • reason why the atc lost is prolly because he prolly had to let off the gas to turn and not flip over

  • yea that video didnt even show the start...gay vid

  • Why are ATC's so fast?

  • they weigh 100 pounds less and have close to the same amount of power

  • bullshit they have nothing the same on them lets see a 450 and a 250 check the cc diference its a 200cc difference if you cant do the math my 450 will kick any atc250s ass

  • hey fuck face 250r's a 2 stroke. More High end power. That thing could wipe your ass anyday. 450's are fast but 2 strokes can out drag ANYDAY

  • virgettess do some research b4 you go shootin your mouth off. no offence to the guy but whoever was riding the atc was either A) Scared or B) Terrible but that Atc would wipe up just about anything in a drag

  • 2 strokes put out twice the power of a 4 stroke.

  • And yet you have a four stroke

  • it was cheaper

  • But does it run better?

  • nope, two strokes are better. my bike has twice the parts of a 2, so it's just more to fix. also prolly another 20 pounds to muscle around

  • Ya but now ya can prolly fit like 5 people on it, instead of like 3

  • @virgettess thats a bunch of crap cuz i got a 350x and i can run side by side with a 660 rapter and dont even use 6 gear

  • @baldwhiteeagle41

    i believe you on that... i watched a honda 250r out run a 660 raptor

  • With riders being the same the ATC should easily smoke a 450r, even a modded one. But anything can happen in a drag and the rider has a lot to do with the outcome.

  • that was a gay vid

  • i was thinkin the same thing LOL

  • the atc should have won.

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