we ought to be using sugars from grasses and grains to make fuel for our vehicles. Done correctly, replacing food stocks with other choices like nuts and beans and slowly moving a majority of wheat and corn production to the generation of fuel could slowly alleviate many of our current national problems; obesity, oil/gas drilling, energy security, farm subsidies (100 bushel p/ acre wheat could be highly profitable in a free energy market based on farm crops)
@poweronia Cheer up, kiddo. The most important thing is that you actually sat down with the deliberate intent to learn more about this. For that, you are entitled to turn your frown upside down! :-)
I watched Lustig's entire lecture and read the New York Times column and I have to say, this report leaves a lot of essential stuff out and kind of sucks. But what else is new? TV journalism is mostly garbage. When they can't get ideas from newspapers anymore, we're all in trouble.
The diagram of the molecule shows 6 carbons in a hexagon. This is Glucose. FRUCTOSE IS A 5 CARBON PENTAGON! The producer's researchers were not Diligent. I agree that this is Sloppy Journalism; Pablum for the Masses.
As per Lightsofnero what else would these Corn Refiners and paid stooges, purveyors of the obesity epidemic, have to say. Can't wait until the class action lawsuits start to roll.
ABC fails to point out the difference between fructose and glucose. The negative health effects are from fructose, NOT glucose. Yes, "sugar is sugar" but that only applies to high fructose corn syrup versus sucrose. Both contain fructose and are sugars. Glucose is a sugar as well, but isn't a "sugar" in the sense that the corn refiners say it is.
ABC is preying on people who have no idea about science.
People should make their way over to the Lustig lecture from here. Very accessible for layman, the counter claims of that lady of the Soft Drink Company and the doctor that speaks for the Corn Refinery Association are completely address, with science and data.
Another example of big money trying to dumb down ill effects of sugar. Calling Lustig a liar to his face without proving anything with science does not hold water. What a joke. ABC looked like they were not trying to take sides. Give me a break, You know they didn't want to piss off the High Fructose Industry. Maybe they were bought who knows, Tobacco industry bought a lot of people off before anything was ever done. But tobacco is not bad for us,, if you recall.
This is retarded. This is much like "show the controversy" where an evolutionist has to but up with the bullshit claims of a creationist. one side of the argument is a person with scientific studies and clinical evidence, and the other side is the coperation who make and sell the fructose, who use anecdotal evidence such as " it comes from mother nature"... cyanide comes from nature .
Boycott fructose (without adequate fiber) and Boycott the companies wanting you to believe it isn't a toxin. If the food regulators won't do their job because they're getting too much money out of it, then we need to turn of the tap to their revenue.
I couldn't agree more; chemically-engineered sweeteners are pure evil and are partly responsible for the epedemic. The people who consume these sugars, however, are more to blame.
they keep saying lustig thinks all sugars are bad... are they fucking retarded he's showing why FRUCTOSE is bad and fructose is half of what simple white sugar is composed of. Fructose is one type of sugar and it's in fruits and juice and anything else that has sucrose (fructose+glucose), they keep saying all sugars when they're referring to the same fucking thing.
Yeah, any Pepsico research should be taken with a grain of salt. They aren't going to take down their own money making machine. If you have a brain and can have some critical thought, it all makes sense. Sugar is CASH....go off it and see what happens. Everything improves.
Extraordinarily crappy journalism. No mentions of the data which shows a relationship between sugar consumption and obesity. No mention of the similarity between the Atkins diet and the Japanese diet, as noted by Ludwig. I give minor points for identifying the opposing camp as being paid by the industry, but (probably) a more honest approach would have been to state "Lustig's main detractors are paid by the sugar industry and I couldn't find anyone else."
@dubaobao I just wonder who gives more ad revenue to ABC, The University of San Francisco (Lustig's employer) or Pepsico and or Coca-Cola. And it is terrible journalism to portray the Corn Refiners rep and Dr. Lustig as equals in terms of who is qualified to DO!/interpret the research.
IF - the over-consumption of calories is the problem then it is the chemical engineering to bypass our biological feedback systems that is behind it. It has gotten to the point that the food engineers know so much about our bodies and brains that they can figure ways to addict people and it has taken decades to figure it out.
In other words billions, maybe trilliions of dollars have been transferred to financial interests that do not have anything like our best nutritional interests at heart.
Are the Corn Refiners Scientists and spokespeople the only people they could find to dispute what he has to say? Of course they're going to disagree, they'd be out of a job.
I agree with him so much it's just a shame he dodged the orange and apple question. I have a burning interest in the question "how much fruit should we eat" and "how much is too much". I eat a lot of fruit on purpose (and never crave refined sweets) and I know people who consume 2000 or more cals from fruit/day (and seem very fit, healthy, slim)
@peacewalker7 I don't think he dodged it. I think they edited him to sound as if he dodged it. It happens ALL the time. If you notice the narrator has like a disbelieving tone when he speaks, as if Lustig is crazy or something. The only people THEY invited to contest him, where people from the Corn Refiners Association. The media is controlled by the same entity that controls the corn refiners, the wars, the climate control, the genocide, etc; I call it "manufactured negitivity".
@shahruledree Fruit is fine because the fiber in fruit has to be consumed along with the fruit's fructose, so the amount of fructose taken in is limited and its negative effects are balanced out by the fiber when you eat fruit. The problem with refined sugar (in any form) is that we eat too much of it because it is a much more concentrated (and therefore toxic) form of fructose.
The Corn Refiners' lady reminds me of the Tobacco Executives we used to see on TV in the 80's... Back when there were ashtrays on every table at McDonald's.
Y'all can laugh and rant all you want, but you are not going to get thin simply by eliminating one component of your diet. Sugars are but one part of an unhealthy diet, and you are seriously deluding yourself if you think removing it is going to be a panacea. It's calories and exercise. If you ate nothing but fructose, but worked out and limited your total calories, you'd be just fine (weight wise).
@Kastchei But you cannot ignore the metabolic side of it anymore than genetic factors. Have you seen the video Sugar: The Bitter Truth? According to the doctor, 30% of any amount of fructose you consume is always transformed into fat...and the bad kind to boot.
@Kastchei I seriously doubt that you'd survive on fructose alone and also that you'd be fine weight wise. I'm openminded though, so if you have prove for that (not just a theory), then please let us know about it. Maybe you could do an experiment and get the big share of your calories from fructose, exercise by going jogging for half an hour every day (would be a kind of normal rate of exercise I think, nothing extreme) and then I'd be interested to see if your weight changes or not. Honestly.
I love that Dr. Lustig has the has the cajones to tell the truth and not care about the controversy. He truly cares about people, especially saving the kids from this downward spiral of obesity and heart disease. Corporations like McDonalds should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity for serving us overly processed, nutritionless, high caloric, sugary food!!
genious man, he is demonstrating what so many winsdom intelectuals and cientifics had profetize.He is develing a well known truth. Humans perfect food are cereals
I don't trust any scientist that is funded by an industry group. They exist only to support the industry otherwise they would be fired. I agree with Dr. Lustig, it's not about personal responsibility why we're getting obese it's because the food supply has been compromised by Agribusiness and Junk Food peddlers like Coke and Pepsi.
The advocates seem to be circumventing the fact that fructose in nature comes with plenty of fiber, and the refined foods eliminate all of that fiber giving you a mega dose of fructose. Everyone knows a sugar is a sugar, it doesn't take the president of the Corn Refiners Association to tell you that, the fact is when "mother nature gave us fructose" it's combined with fiber so it doesn't inhibit the hormones used in the negative feedback system to signal your brain if you are full or not
Real convincing from a president of the CORN refiners Assoc. High fructose corn syrup is not natural Audrae. It's like a smoker telling you smoking isn't bad for you.
And then a doctor who works for the corn assoc and pepsi tells us fructose isn't bad for you. Give me a break!!
Real convincing from a president of the CORN refiners Assoc. High fructose corn syrup is not natural Audrae. It's like a smoker telling you smoking isn't bad for you.
There's a reason why fruits don't make you fat and/or stimulate appetite: Fiber. Simple as that. Fruits have fiber in them to cancel out the fructose found naturally in fruit.
The lady from the corn refiners association says "mother nature gave us fructose" as if that somehow made it good for us. Mother nature also "gave us" sulfuric acid, would she like to drink a cup? how stupid.....
I am glad I got to watch Dr. Lustig entire lecture first before watching this video. And the network news consider themselves to be professional and reporting in the public's interest? Hah!
@hikarikage01 True that! It's funny how you can just see right through the obvious bias being presented here. I mean, spokespeople and consultants for the Corn Refiners Association and Pepsi?! Who do they they think they're fooling?
Shame that ABC had a chance to discuss a serious topic and instead produced this childish shit. How many scientists in this segment not paid by the corn industry (1, Lustig) and how many paid by the industry...2.
I bet you that the daughter said "yes" to being asked about whether or not she's constantly thinking about sweets on weekends, and that's why they cut to another scene during her laugh.
It's highly frustrating to watch ABC, NBC, CNN and especially FOX for reports and then completely mock the person they are interviewing with childish narrating. "oh boy here he goes again". Trying to discredit a notable person and make him seem like someone on a crusade / nutjob!
At the end of the day, people need to educate themselves, think outside of the box and understand like with so many other subjects the government just lies to us. The HFCS industry makes too much money!
This reporter needs to be more objective and ditch the BS commentary. Let viewers decide for themselves if Lustig is wrong or right. Of course since education is abysmal in the US, most people will not bother to listen or understand. Also I agree with topheramazz; the only people in the segment saying anything against Lustig is the food industry. Of course they would!
This president of the corn refiners association is protecting her money, THEIR money. They WANT you to be sick and obese. It's a FACT that sugar is bad. Multitudes of INDEPENDENT tests have been done. if you add sugar to a malignant tumor, it grows. On the flip side, one Italian surgeon applied sodium bicarbonate to tumors and they shrunk. Sugar is very acidic. Sodium bicarbonate is alkaline. You figure it out. Liars suck
@metalhaze1982 Salt's NOT bad in its NATURAL form. Table salt & salt that's added to processed foods is refined. The human body NEEDS salt. But, it needs salt that hasn't been refined. Eat ONLY foods that don't have ANY salt added, and add your OWN salt (brands like Celtic salt or Redmonds Real salt) to your cooking, and as long as you are drinking plenty of water, IT'S HEALTHY. I suggest reading "You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty" by Dr. Batmanghelidj explains how you NEED GOOD salt & water
@PassionTutor so what I am supposed to mine my own salt to get the best available? The only refining they do to salt is add iodine to it.... which reduces goiters. They dont add anything that isnt necessary: Salt, dextrose (to stabilize the iodide in it), and calcium silicate (to prevent caking or lumping of salt in humid environments, like here in FL). Sea salt, however, is a good alternative to table salt. which is what I use
@NewToTheLyte Chill out man. "Real salt" or "Celtic Sea salt" are the only two I know of that aren't refined. You're wrong about refining. Refined salt is stripped of all its minerals & heated at high temps. The chemical structure of the salt changes. It's also bleached. Refined salt does not dissolve & combine with the water in our body. Instead it builds up in the body and leaves deposits in organs and tissue, causing health problems. "Sea salt" is a trick. It's all from the sea
@petitemasochist There is A LOT you can do. But, bread and ALL grains need to be eaten in moderation, becaus that also turns into sugar in your blood. So, what CAN you eat? First of all, eat fruits in moderation. SOME fruits don't have any fructose or have very little. Use STEVIA to sweeten. You can make SO MANY tasty dishes without sugar. I do it. And, I'm 48 years old 6 feet 165 lbs and exercise comes TOO easy. I highly suggest a VitaMix for green smoothies and sweeten with stevia
@petitemasochist The research shows that even if you stuff yourself with fruit all day, the fiber and enzymes present in fruit act as a buffer. It would be hard to get over 20gm per day of fructose. eat your fruit and enjoy it. It's when we take out the sugar and eat just that.
I love how they say the Cardiologist works with Pepsi Co. and then states the research he has looked at to come to his conclusion was funded by Pepsi Co. I love how that lady says something so simple, as it is natural, and that is all the defensive she thinks is necessary. As a certified nutritionist, every time I explain the no fructose rule, they reply with "Why, isn't it natural" and I then explain the biochemistry behind it, and then they get it.
The lady from corn refiner's association is full of it ... she is pushing the same lies that are so amazingly rampant in our crashing broken useless economy.
Wow, who would have guessed that the beverage and corn industries would say Lustig is wrong... by out and out lying. Lustig has proved the science behind everything he is saying. No one has ever refuted that science. All objections to what he is saying is purely lying to your face.
"On balance, the case for fructose being less satiating than glucose or HFCS being less satiating than sucrose is not compelling." (Moran TH. Fructose and Satiety. J Nutr. 2009 Jun;139(6):1253S-1256S. Epub 2009 Apr 29.)
The study can be found online and is free to read.
In fact, there are more studies against Lustig than for him. It's highly convenient to ignore evidence by pointing to bias; it's also extremely unreasonable.
it's sad ABC so prominently features the corn-funded scientist, not to mention the reporters seems to laugh at everything the doctor says. "oh boy, here he goes" is a great way to take away someone's credibility
wow, this reporter is a moron. somehow he never bothered to look at the nutritional facts on yogurt or soda to see how much sugar is in them. how did this guy get this assignment? couldn't he have at least spent the 1.5 hours to watch the talk Lustig gave at UCSF in which he clearly explains that not ALL sugar is bad - glucose is good. fructose is bad. be careful of your media, America.
Why does ABCNews seem like they are trying to dumb down or make Robert Ludwig seem preposterous? Oh wait, like the corn refiners association, they are funded by bigger corporations present NEWS to people with a biased kick to it.
All those corporations presenting NEWS show advertisements of high sugar, fattening products, at least in my country. In a way, they are responsible for all this. And they do not want to make angry the guy that gives them money.
How on earth can anyone accept research concerning something when that researcher represents the very industry that profits from a certain outcome of the study? Why do those researchers even have a say when it's so obvious theres a conflict of interest.
Dear ABCNews: No. It's not "all sugars" he's at war with - it's sucrose/fructose in particular that Lustig is focusing on. There's other sugars that he has no issues with.
It would really help if you got your basic science straight before trying to report on it.
And only quoting opposing views from the Corn Refiners Association? Hilarious.
@Audrae Erickson, president of Corn Refiners Association: Mother nature gave u fructose to put money in ur pockets and fat in our bellies and cholesterol in our arteries. Your greedy bitch, how many children have to get obese and get diabeties for your money hungry ass to realize that sugar is the root cause of 99% of health problems in America. I would love to shove 100 lbs of sugar down ur throath and watch you die.
this is misleading...fructose is not harmful in its natural state. all fruits and vegetables contain fructose, and they should be the MAIN part of a healthy diet. high fructose corn syrup, table sugar and refined products are harmful because they contain no fiber and cause a quick rise in blood sugar levels. Lustig needs to clarify his statement.
@DJPuffChronic1 Contain does not mean 60mg it means >0mg. Sugar in a naval orange is 26% fructose (3.7g) and it also carries 4g of fiber. A can of coke has about 12-15g of fructose, no fiber. He said about 5 times in his video that fruits are fine because they have very low levels of actual fructose and they have plenty of fiber. It's ABC that's not clear.
@DJPuffChronic1 He had actually mentioned these things in his presentation, and probably did in his interview. Seeing as how they sought opposition to his points from people who have vested interests in fructose not being seen as bad, however...
.........I hope everyone realizes that Pepsi Co, corn refiners, any food industry will pay doctors and lawyers to speak out and say their stuff is safe. It's pretty evident in this video. *Huge middle-finger* to the corn refiners...
Lustig's YouTube video, "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" now has around 725,000 hits!
Now watch (on streaming Netflix) the 2007 documentary "King Corn" (lighthearted but devastating) by two Yales grads who go out to Iowa and grow an acre of corn. They go to Greene, Iowa - 'cause to their amazement, both their great-grandfathers are from there. Then watch their follow up vid "Big River." If I may be so bold, you don't know your country till you've seen these films. Follow up with Food, Inc.
Is this ABC's idea of balanced reporting!? If you want to get a balanced debate between Lustig and an opposing point of view, that opposing point of view should be one based on science, and not in corporate interest. Every spokesperson and scientist they interviewed to offer a counter point to Lustig was affiliated with the food industry. Instead, if they were really concerned about objectivity, they should have gotten a researcher NOT affiliated with agribusiness.
Someone else said it but damn... If you can't find anyone to say anything good about fructose who isn't paid by fructose shilling companies, you probably have a problem.
To hell with beverage associations. Sadly, we only care about now and not what will happen in the future. This needs to change. And yes there is a difference between HFCS and sugar. In terms of energy value they might be the same. But, on a molecular level totally different molecular formula. HFCS is not a naturally occurring molecule. Raw materials are present but twisted in a lab, modified and only now we are exposed to this unholy molecule. No life ate HFCS before 2nd half of 20th century
To add to that of coarse someone whos pocket is being filled by the people who want to keep sugar on the market is going to side with them. You cant trust these people. If KFC paid me to go on TV and say that their food is healthy then I probably wouldn't think twice. Its all about the money these days and very few researchers or scientists are willing to speak up because they are being funded well by the same people.
The only people who think that dietary fats are causing obesity are morons. The problem with sugars is that its a drug. Its very addicting and I agree that they don't satisfy hunger to well. It takes a lot of self control when it comes to sugars. I see people at work after just having a meal go for the sweets just because it tastes good and probably gives them that sugar high that they crave. You will never see sugar taken off the market, but it probably should.
this is a lession of how can people make an eight minute report and leave out the important molecular facts, of how it is split up in the liver it ruins your body like alcohol. noone can deny biochemistry.
it's a toxin. end of story.
highly tax it, if you don't take it off the market at all...
Lustig's idea about carding kids for any sugar drink is radical, but it is also brilliant and neccessary. I propose we do that for children who buy any sugary item.
@XTJimbo1910 Or, one could just care less about processed foods, sugar that they put, and eat only fruits and veggies. Control only comes from constant bombardment of products for u and u succumb to that. I for example have no need to eat sugar. Only what nature provided. Do u realize that in nature, there is no high sugar content in any of the foods at all. Several grams of natural sugars do occur even in a tomato fruit. Its the companies that later add process sugars by lots into your food.
Corn refiners can go fukk themselves. Do not listen to them. What they do is introduce a molecule that is not found in nature. Therefore our body does not know what to do with it. It tries to process it to the best of its genetic ability but to no avail. We never consumed HFCS and therefore suffer now with health problems. And oh yea, cancer loves sugar and many diseases are a result of acidic bodies. Fun fact: eating lots of meat and bad foods, make male sperm very acidic.
let me understand : iven the natural juice make us damage ?!?!
vladissimo18 2 days ago
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How does the corn refiners scientist sleep at night?
odd0odium 1 week ago
Robert Lustig is a fat fuck. He probably eats not enough sugar!
tdkpaul 3 weeks ago
This report isn't telling the whole story.
He says glucose is specifically good.
He says sucrose/fructose is specifically bad.
Because glucose =/= fructose.
SuperGGnoRE 3 weeks ago
we ought to be using sugars from grasses and grains to make fuel for our vehicles. Done correctly, replacing food stocks with other choices like nuts and beans and slowly moving a majority of wheat and corn production to the generation of fuel could slowly alleviate many of our current national problems; obesity, oil/gas drilling, energy security, farm subsidies (100 bushel p/ acre wheat could be highly profitable in a free energy market based on farm crops)
arieger2010 3 weeks ago
7:35 The guy employed by the corn refiners association and Pepsi disagrees. Huh. Go figure.
poweronia 1 month ago 2
10 minutes before I sat down to watch this I put a teaspoon of sugar into my coffee :[
poweronia 1 month ago
@poweronia Cheer up, kiddo. The most important thing is that you actually sat down with the deliberate intent to learn more about this. For that, you are entitled to turn your frown upside down! :-)
rmcdaniel423 2 days ago
@rmcdaniel423 lol
poweronia 2 days ago
I watched Lustig's entire lecture and read the New York Times column and I have to say, this report leaves a lot of essential stuff out and kind of sucks. But what else is new? TV journalism is mostly garbage. When they can't get ideas from newspapers anymore, we're all in trouble.
msbunnypaws 1 month ago
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is maltodextrin a poison like fructose. my shake is 86g carbs (3g sugar!!)
thallious9876 1 month ago
cool wer will mit mia schreiben
VergieAnnei564 1 month ago
The diagram of the molecule shows 6 carbons in a hexagon. This is Glucose. FRUCTOSE IS A 5 CARBON PENTAGON! The producer's researchers were not Diligent. I agree that this is Sloppy Journalism; Pablum for the Masses.
DAB520 2 months ago
Listen to the lecture called The Bitter Truth. If your willing to really listen...it all makes sense.
forevertrusting 3 months ago 3
"Mother Nature gave us fructose"
Did you really just say that?
"Mother Nature" gave us oil also, doesn't mean I'm going to drink that either.
fslagle 3 months ago 4
As per Lightsofnero what else would these Corn Refiners and paid stooges, purveyors of the obesity epidemic, have to say. Can't wait until the class action lawsuits start to roll.
alangilbey1 3 months ago
fructose is a carbohydrate lol
tomheppy 3 months ago
ABC fails to point out the difference between fructose and glucose. The negative health effects are from fructose, NOT glucose. Yes, "sugar is sugar" but that only applies to high fructose corn syrup versus sucrose. Both contain fructose and are sugars. Glucose is a sugar as well, but isn't a "sugar" in the sense that the corn refiners say it is.
ABC is preying on people who have no idea about science.
fbxcore 3 months ago 2
@fbxcore and there's a hell of a lot of those people with no idea of science around. High concentration in the USFDA in particular!
alangilbey1 3 months ago 2
Fructose is a hepatoxin and actually damages the lining of your gut...
MichaelnChristine 4 months ago
What Dr. Lustig needs to do is pay millions of advertising dollars to get ABC News to report accurately.
iamgabrielf 4 months ago
25 grams?
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That's just a single scoop of ice cream or yogurt for me!
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electrictroy2010 4 months ago
EXCELLENT advice from dr. lustig!
why even bother interviewing the idiotic and paid-for corn refiner representatives? you know big business will never incriminate their own products.
dadominateII 4 months ago
One sugar cube = 4 grams.
Jitpring 5 months ago
People should make their way over to the Lustig lecture from here. Very accessible for layman, the counter claims of that lady of the Soft Drink Company and the doctor that speaks for the Corn Refinery Association are completely address, with science and data.
mathfeel 6 months ago
Another example of big money trying to dumb down ill effects of sugar. Calling Lustig a liar to his face without proving anything with science does not hold water. What a joke. ABC looked like they were not trying to take sides. Give me a break, You know they didn't want to piss off the High Fructose Industry. Maybe they were bought who knows, Tobacco industry bought a lot of people off before anything was ever done. But tobacco is not bad for us,, if you recall.
agarza911 6 months ago
Lustig's video is well worth a watch. Makes a lot of sense, and if you stop eating sugar as a tester for a month you will notice a difference.
Mathildaonline 6 months ago
I have had gout for years, and tried just about everything without success.I reduced meat to, minimum once
a week, stopped alcohol altogether.I was having LOTS of fruit and vegetables and my gout was worsening.
Finally I have read something about Excessive fructose increasing uric acid.I experimented reducing my fruit
intake to 1 a day, and bingo within days I saw a dramatic improvement.
Tony Phylactou
tonyccc1 7 months ago
@tonyccc1 You might want to try drinking milk, it's known to lower uric acid levels and treat gout.
Mathildaonline 6 months ago
This is retarded. This is much like "show the controversy" where an evolutionist has to but up with the bullshit claims of a creationist. one side of the argument is a person with scientific studies and clinical evidence, and the other side is the coperation who make and sell the fructose, who use anecdotal evidence such as " it comes from mother nature"... cyanide comes from nature .
dont be so derp.
hypock1 7 months ago 2
Boycott fructose (without adequate fiber) and Boycott the companies wanting you to believe it isn't a toxin. If the food regulators won't do their job because they're getting too much money out of it, then we need to turn of the tap to their revenue.
imRyRy 7 months ago
This report was terribly done.
capaseto 7 months ago 3
I couldn't agree more; chemically-engineered sweeteners are pure evil and are partly responsible for the epedemic. The people who consume these sugars, however, are more to blame.
Put the sugar-laden snacks down, people!
CoachTerp 7 months ago
they keep saying lustig thinks all sugars are bad... are they fucking retarded he's showing why FRUCTOSE is bad and fructose is half of what simple white sugar is composed of. Fructose is one type of sugar and it's in fruits and juice and anything else that has sucrose (fructose+glucose), they keep saying all sugars when they're referring to the same fucking thing.
66Charles 7 months ago
Yeah, any Pepsico research should be taken with a grain of salt. They aren't going to take down their own money making machine. If you have a brain and can have some critical thought, it all makes sense. Sugar is CASH....go off it and see what happens. Everything improves.
howzaou812 8 months ago 2
Dude...give her a few years, and his daughter is going to be HOT.
Caulfield789 8 months ago 2
@Caulfield789
lol Yeah, she's going to be in pretty good shape because of her dad.
totally8bit 8 months ago
"...and has done research funded by PEPSICO."
At least they included that.
soad1789 8 months ago
Well, I guess it's easy to tell who keeps the lights on at ABC News.
JocelynHarrison 8 months ago 3
corn refiners association
TheCycadsAreAudible 8 months ago
Extraordinarily crappy journalism. No mentions of the data which shows a relationship between sugar consumption and obesity. No mention of the similarity between the Atkins diet and the Japanese diet, as noted by Ludwig. I give minor points for identifying the opposing camp as being paid by the industry, but (probably) a more honest approach would have been to state "Lustig's main detractors are paid by the sugar industry and I couldn't find anyone else."
dubaobao 8 months ago 23
@dubaobao I just wonder who gives more ad revenue to ABC, The University of San Francisco (Lustig's employer) or Pepsico and or Coca-Cola. And it is terrible journalism to portray the Corn Refiners rep and Dr. Lustig as equals in terms of who is qualified to DO!/interpret the research.
maverik15j 1 month ago
IF - the over-consumption of calories is the problem then it is the chemical engineering to bypass our biological feedback systems that is behind it. It has gotten to the point that the food engineers know so much about our bodies and brains that they can figure ways to addict people and it has taken decades to figure it out.
In other words billions, maybe trilliions of dollars have been transferred to financial interests that do not have anything like our best nutritional interests at heart.
justgivemethetruth 8 months ago 2
This guy is really wonderful ... the world is engineered to sell us poison that they figure out how to addict us to.
The one thing that America makes anymore is Coca-Cola ... and if Coca-Cola goes so does the American economy and stock market,
God or mother-nature did not give us high-fructose-corn-syrup.
justgivemethetruth 8 months ago 2
brave man
TheChiinkynoodle 9 months ago
Are the Corn Refiners Scientists and spokespeople the only people they could find to dispute what he has to say? Of course they're going to disagree, they'd be out of a job.
Lightsofnero 9 months ago 17
Now, all this and I have to ask... What about simple dextrose?
StormZephyr 9 months ago
I agree with him so much it's just a shame he dodged the orange and apple question. I have a burning interest in the question "how much fruit should we eat" and "how much is too much". I eat a lot of fruit on purpose (and never crave refined sweets) and I know people who consume 2000 or more cals from fruit/day (and seem very fit, healthy, slim)
peacewalker7 9 months ago
@peacewalker7 I don't think he dodged it. I think they edited him to sound as if he dodged it. It happens ALL the time. If you notice the narrator has like a disbelieving tone when he speaks, as if Lustig is crazy or something. The only people THEY invited to contest him, where people from the Corn Refiners Association. The media is controlled by the same entity that controls the corn refiners, the wars, the climate control, the genocide, etc; I call it "manufactured negitivity".
tejaygilliamvideos 9 months ago
@peacewalker7
it all depends how well you can handle fructose. most people cant handle a lot of fructose thats why there is an obesity epidemic
MrBabo91 9 months ago
they edited the important things he said out..
albertescamilla 9 months ago
I love how they keep referring to the molecule of fructose (5 member ring), then show the molecule for glucose (6 member ring).
ThePolysyllabist 9 months ago
fructose = bad
fructose + fibre (natural fruit)= it's may ok
am I right?
shahruledree 9 months ago
@shahruledree Fruit is fine because the fiber in fruit has to be consumed along with the fruit's fructose, so the amount of fructose taken in is limited and its negative effects are balanced out by the fiber when you eat fruit. The problem with refined sugar (in any form) is that we eat too much of it because it is a much more concentrated (and therefore toxic) form of fructose.
pigwidgeonfan 9 months ago
Mother nature gave us fructose... yh, mother nature also gave us cocaine and poison ivy. try eating those you dumb bitch
MrBabo91 9 months ago
The Corn Refiners' lady reminds me of the Tobacco Executives we used to see on TV in the 80's... Back when there were ashtrays on every table at McDonald's.
AskTheManagerDOTcom 9 months ago
God I hate the media sometimes.
JasonPMartin 9 months ago
I f*cking love that crepe shop at 0:50. Just saying...
sybrix 9 months ago
Y'all can laugh and rant all you want, but you are not going to get thin simply by eliminating one component of your diet. Sugars are but one part of an unhealthy diet, and you are seriously deluding yourself if you think removing it is going to be a panacea. It's calories and exercise. If you ate nothing but fructose, but worked out and limited your total calories, you'd be just fine (weight wise).
Kastchei 9 months ago
@Kastchei But you cannot ignore the metabolic side of it anymore than genetic factors. Have you seen the video Sugar: The Bitter Truth? According to the doctor, 30% of any amount of fructose you consume is always transformed into fat...and the bad kind to boot.
kirk10p99 9 months ago
@Kastchei I seriously doubt that you'd survive on fructose alone and also that you'd be fine weight wise. I'm openminded though, so if you have prove for that (not just a theory), then please let us know about it. Maybe you could do an experiment and get the big share of your calories from fructose, exercise by going jogging for half an hour every day (would be a kind of normal rate of exercise I think, nothing extreme) and then I'd be interested to see if your weight changes or not. Honestly.
HansKarlEgonWurst 9 months ago
@Kastchei
Actually no, you wouldn't be fine, you'd be dead.
zzodr 7 months ago
I love that Dr. Lustig has the has the cajones to tell the truth and not care about the controversy. He truly cares about people, especially saving the kids from this downward spiral of obesity and heart disease. Corporations like McDonalds should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity for serving us overly processed, nutritionless, high caloric, sugary food!!
rpena728 9 months ago
LOL! Watching "Sugar: the Bitter Truth" and then watching this segment is hilarious. American Beverage Assn, Corn Refiners Assn, etc.
paydirt76 9 months ago 2
genious man, he is demonstrating what so many winsdom intelectuals and cientifics had profetize.He is develing a well known truth. Humans perfect food are cereals
pedrosg92 9 months ago
I don't trust any scientist that is funded by an industry group. They exist only to support the industry otherwise they would be fired. I agree with Dr. Lustig, it's not about personal responsibility why we're getting obese it's because the food supply has been compromised by Agribusiness and Junk Food peddlers like Coke and Pepsi.
citizen33035 9 months ago 2
Corn syrup is natural, duh! Drink up fatty.
xxxresistance 10 months ago
The advocates seem to be circumventing the fact that fructose in nature comes with plenty of fiber, and the refined foods eliminate all of that fiber giving you a mega dose of fructose. Everyone knows a sugar is a sugar, it doesn't take the president of the Corn Refiners Association to tell you that, the fact is when "mother nature gave us fructose" it's combined with fiber so it doesn't inhibit the hormones used in the negative feedback system to signal your brain if you are full or not
AntoH 10 months ago
Real convincing from a president of the CORN refiners Assoc. High fructose corn syrup is not natural Audrae. It's like a smoker telling you smoking isn't bad for you.
And then a doctor who works for the corn assoc and pepsi tells us fructose isn't bad for you. Give me a break!!
oldno74 10 months ago
Real convincing from a president of the CORN refiners Assoc. High fructose corn syrup is not natural Audrae. It's like a smoker telling you smoking isn't bad for you.
oldno74 10 months ago
Wow, i really love the comments, makes me have some hope for humanity. Lets kick ABC news in the crotch!
mikesunit 10 months ago
There's a reason why fruits don't make you fat and/or stimulate appetite: Fiber. Simple as that. Fruits have fiber in them to cancel out the fructose found naturally in fruit.
guydudeasian 10 months ago
The lady from the corn refiners association says "mother nature gave us fructose" as if that somehow made it good for us. Mother nature also "gave us" sulfuric acid, would she like to drink a cup? how stupid.....
zamkam 10 months ago
fruit for dessert?! those poor healthy kids!!
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eshake89 10 months ago
I def don't totally agree with this guy when you talks about juicing your own fruits.
griesrt 10 months ago
Reading some of the comments, I'm impressed by how many people aren't buying ABC's skewed presentation and insinuation that Lustig is a fool.
SuperHappyCow 10 months ago
@SuperHappyCow To be fair, ABC didn't really do a good job skewing it :)
4HahaTwo 9 months ago
That woman was the president of the Corn Refiners' association. I wonder if she has any interest in fructose not being demonized.
SuperHappyCow 10 months ago
8:07 Oh boy here he goes.......
BTW when they are walking on the pier, count the fat people.
jojopuppyfish 10 months ago
I am glad I got to watch Dr. Lustig entire lecture first before watching this video. And the network news consider themselves to be professional and reporting in the public's interest? Hah!
hikarikage01 10 months ago
@hikarikage01 True that! It's funny how you can just see right through the obvious bias being presented here. I mean, spokespeople and consultants for the Corn Refiners Association and Pepsi?! Who do they they think they're fooling?
KRACKZENNY 10 months ago
Shame that ABC had a chance to discuss a serious topic and instead produced this childish shit. How many scientists in this segment not paid by the corn industry (1, Lustig) and how many paid by the industry...2.
jfpress 10 months ago 2
I bet you that the daughter said "yes" to being asked about whether or not she's constantly thinking about sweets on weekends, and that's why they cut to another scene during her laugh.
drofenaz 10 months ago
It's highly frustrating to watch ABC, NBC, CNN and especially FOX for reports and then completely mock the person they are interviewing with childish narrating. "oh boy here he goes again". Trying to discredit a notable person and make him seem like someone on a crusade / nutjob!
At the end of the day, people need to educate themselves, think outside of the box and understand like with so many other subjects the government just lies to us. The HFCS industry makes too much money!
geoffclement1980 10 months ago 2
This reporter needs to be more objective and ditch the BS commentary. Let viewers decide for themselves if Lustig is wrong or right. Of course since education is abysmal in the US, most people will not bother to listen or understand. Also I agree with topheramazz; the only people in the segment saying anything against Lustig is the food industry. Of course they would!
jlund75 10 months ago
mother nature gave us coca as well, but cocaine is banned now days
jamschnitter 10 months ago
@jamschnitter I Love your comment.
jlund75 10 months ago
This president of the corn refiners association is protecting her money, THEIR money. They WANT you to be sick and obese. It's a FACT that sugar is bad. Multitudes of INDEPENDENT tests have been done. if you add sugar to a malignant tumor, it grows. On the flip side, one Italian surgeon applied sodium bicarbonate to tumors and they shrunk. Sugar is very acidic. Sodium bicarbonate is alkaline. You figure it out. Liars suck
PassionTutor 10 months ago
ok big question how bad is SALT? is salt considered as bad as sugar?
metalhaze1982 10 months ago
@metalhaze1982 Salt's NOT bad in its NATURAL form. Table salt & salt that's added to processed foods is refined. The human body NEEDS salt. But, it needs salt that hasn't been refined. Eat ONLY foods that don't have ANY salt added, and add your OWN salt (brands like Celtic salt or Redmonds Real salt) to your cooking, and as long as you are drinking plenty of water, IT'S HEALTHY. I suggest reading "You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty" by Dr. Batmanghelidj explains how you NEED GOOD salt & water
PassionTutor 10 months ago
@PassionTutor so what I am supposed to mine my own salt to get the best available? The only refining they do to salt is add iodine to it.... which reduces goiters. They dont add anything that isnt necessary: Salt, dextrose (to stabilize the iodide in it), and calcium silicate (to prevent caking or lumping of salt in humid environments, like here in FL). Sea salt, however, is a good alternative to table salt. which is what I use
NewToTheLyte 10 months ago
@NewToTheLyte Chill out man. "Real salt" or "Celtic Sea salt" are the only two I know of that aren't refined. You're wrong about refining. Refined salt is stripped of all its minerals & heated at high temps. The chemical structure of the salt changes. It's also bleached. Refined salt does not dissolve & combine with the water in our body. Instead it builds up in the body and leaves deposits in organs and tissue, causing health problems. "Sea salt" is a trick. It's all from the sea
PassionTutor 10 months ago
So what am I supposed to do now? Eat bread and drink water? Lol I love fruit as well, but apparently even they're bad for us now. *sigh*
petitemasochist 10 months ago
@petitemasochist There is A LOT you can do. But, bread and ALL grains need to be eaten in moderation, becaus that also turns into sugar in your blood. So, what CAN you eat? First of all, eat fruits in moderation. SOME fruits don't have any fructose or have very little. Use STEVIA to sweeten. You can make SO MANY tasty dishes without sugar. I do it. And, I'm 48 years old 6 feet 165 lbs and exercise comes TOO easy. I highly suggest a VitaMix for green smoothies and sweeten with stevia
PassionTutor 10 months ago
@petitemasochist The research shows that even if you stuff yourself with fruit all day, the fiber and enzymes present in fruit act as a buffer. It would be hard to get over 20gm per day of fructose. eat your fruit and enjoy it. It's when we take out the sugar and eat just that.
jlund75 10 months ago
I love how they say the Cardiologist works with Pepsi Co. and then states the research he has looked at to come to his conclusion was funded by Pepsi Co. I love how that lady says something so simple, as it is natural, and that is all the defensive she thinks is necessary. As a certified nutritionist, every time I explain the no fructose rule, they reply with "Why, isn't it natural" and I then explain the biochemistry behind it, and then they get it.
YuNgMuN04 10 months ago
@YuNgMuN04 Thanks for posting. great point
jlund75 10 months ago
corn refiner lady: mother nature gave us fructose. Mother nature also gave us arsenic. How much of that do you take?
grimm26 10 months ago 2
the interviewer looks confused
tsuba14 10 months ago
The lady from corn refiner's association is full of it ... she is pushing the same lies that are so amazingly rampant in our crashing broken useless economy.
justgivemethetruth 10 months ago 2
Odd that the molecule they are showing in the video looks like glucose.
I think this guy is onto something ... common sense is killing people for money.
justgivemethetruth 10 months ago
The thing that raised the most money in American is killing people slowing while making money off it. Is that anything to run a civilization on?
justgivemethetruth 10 months ago
Wow, who would have guessed that the beverage and corn industries would say Lustig is wrong... by out and out lying. Lustig has proved the science behind everything he is saying. No one has ever refuted that science. All objections to what he is saying is purely lying to your face.
r3ality1 10 months ago 39
@r3ality1 No one has ever refuted that science?
"On balance, the case for fructose being less satiating than glucose or HFCS being less satiating than sucrose is not compelling." (Moran TH. Fructose and Satiety. J Nutr. 2009 Jun;139(6):1253S-1256S. Epub 2009 Apr 29.)
The study can be found online and is free to read.
In fact, there are more studies against Lustig than for him. It's highly convenient to ignore evidence by pointing to bias; it's also extremely unreasonable.
AaronPatinio 5 months ago
6:02 for the win! Look at the reel to reel brain!!!
thehumble1 10 months ago
more money into crappy sweet foods; true sugar is addictive
i'm eating or desert-ing?
live0day 10 months ago
it's sad ABC so prominently features the corn-funded scientist, not to mention the reporters seems to laugh at everything the doctor says. "oh boy, here he goes" is a great way to take away someone's credibility
jakey4003 10 months ago 3
wow, this reporter is a moron. somehow he never bothered to look at the nutritional facts on yogurt or soda to see how much sugar is in them. how did this guy get this assignment? couldn't he have at least spent the 1.5 hours to watch the talk Lustig gave at UCSF in which he clearly explains that not ALL sugar is bad - glucose is good. fructose is bad. be careful of your media, America.
Theoboeguy 10 months ago
looks like they where making fun of him
geiuy 10 months ago
The doctor who consults for the corn refiners and worked for pepsi is priceless. How shocking that he's a skeptic.
rooley 10 months ago 3
Why does ABCNews seem like they are trying to dumb down or make Robert Ludwig seem preposterous? Oh wait, like the corn refiners association, they are funded by bigger corporations present NEWS to people with a biased kick to it.
ltzul2vi7l 11 months ago 28
@ltzul2vi7l
All those corporations presenting NEWS show advertisements of high sugar, fattening products, at least in my country. In a way, they are responsible for all this. And they do not want to make angry the guy that gives them money.
XodiakGangrene 5 months ago
How on earth can anyone accept research concerning something when that researcher represents the very industry that profits from a certain outcome of the study? Why do those researchers even have a say when it's so obvious theres a conflict of interest.
presswt 11 months ago
Dear ABCNews: No. It's not "all sugars" he's at war with - it's sucrose/fructose in particular that Lustig is focusing on. There's other sugars that he has no issues with.
It would really help if you got your basic science straight before trying to report on it.
And only quoting opposing views from the Corn Refiners Association? Hilarious.
ShakaUVM 11 months ago 3
I eat sugar all day. I'm not fat, in fact ı'm told to put weight on. I want to know if it bad for your health
81NAG 11 months ago
Fructose is natural. You know what else is natural? Arsenic.
plateofshrimp 11 months ago 4
@Audrae Erickson, president of Corn Refiners Association: Mother nature gave u fructose to put money in ur pockets and fat in our bellies and cholesterol in our arteries. Your greedy bitch, how many children have to get obese and get diabeties for your money hungry ass to realize that sugar is the root cause of 99% of health problems in America. I would love to shove 100 lbs of sugar down ur throath and watch you die.
ilovethechallenge 1 year ago
this is misleading...fructose is not harmful in its natural state. all fruits and vegetables contain fructose, and they should be the MAIN part of a healthy diet. high fructose corn syrup, table sugar and refined products are harmful because they contain no fiber and cause a quick rise in blood sugar levels. Lustig needs to clarify his statement.
DJPuffChronic1 1 year ago
@DJPuffChronic1 Natural state... like fresh squeezed juice..? It still needs fiber to help block absorbtion of fructose. 5:15
fetymann 11 months ago
@fetymann by 'natural state' i mean the fruit itself, whole...raw.
DJPuffChronic1 11 months ago
@DJPuffChronic1 ok, "whole fruit" then. As he said in the lecture.
fetymann 11 months ago
@DJPuffChronic1 Contain does not mean 60mg it means >0mg. Sugar in a naval orange is 26% fructose (3.7g) and it also carries 4g of fiber. A can of coke has about 12-15g of fructose, no fiber. He said about 5 times in his video that fruits are fine because they have very low levels of actual fructose and they have plenty of fiber. It's ABC that's not clear.
thehumble1 10 months ago
@DJPuffChronic1 He had actually mentioned these things in his presentation, and probably did in his interview. Seeing as how they sought opposition to his points from people who have vested interests in fructose not being seen as bad, however...
I would say the fault is not with him.
SuperHappyCow 10 months ago
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DJPuffChronic1 1 year ago
Fuck the Corn Assholeciation
fetymann 1 year ago
.........I hope everyone realizes that Pepsi Co, corn refiners, any food industry will pay doctors and lawyers to speak out and say their stuff is safe. It's pretty evident in this video. *Huge middle-finger* to the corn refiners...
timmyxdl 1 year ago 6
Lustig's YouTube video, "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" now has around 725,000 hits!
Now watch (on streaming Netflix) the 2007 documentary "King Corn" (lighthearted but devastating) by two Yales grads who go out to Iowa and grow an acre of corn. They go to Greene, Iowa - 'cause to their amazement, both their great-grandfathers are from there. Then watch their follow up vid "Big River." If I may be so bold, you don't know your country till you've seen these films. Follow up with Food, Inc.
Awaitingcertainty 1 year ago
abc did a bad job with this - no balance other than people working for the sugar industry - no talking to others - say Gary Taubs..
xtronics 1 year ago
@xtronics
Except for Lustig himself? Who got 90% of the camera time?
reddupo 1 year ago
Is this ABC's idea of balanced reporting!? If you want to get a balanced debate between Lustig and an opposing point of view, that opposing point of view should be one based on science, and not in corporate interest. Every spokesperson and scientist they interviewed to offer a counter point to Lustig was affiliated with the food industry. Instead, if they were really concerned about objectivity, they should have gotten a researcher NOT affiliated with agribusiness.
alphacause 1 year ago 4
Someone else said it but damn... If you can't find anyone to say anything good about fructose who isn't paid by fructose shilling companies, you probably have a problem.
zigspective 1 year ago
Good news everybody. Drink chicory root. It has a lot of fiber and is very good for your bacteria and u.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
ABC's idea of balance is to wheel out a couple of paid representatives of the Corn Refiners' Association.
40ny 1 year ago
lololol. its a shame that they taste so gooood... and you're soooo fat
doctorwilhelm 1 year ago
To hell with beverage associations. Sadly, we only care about now and not what will happen in the future. This needs to change. And yes there is a difference between HFCS and sugar. In terms of energy value they might be the same. But, on a molecular level totally different molecular formula. HFCS is not a naturally occurring molecule. Raw materials are present but twisted in a lab, modified and only now we are exposed to this unholy molecule. No life ate HFCS before 2nd half of 20th century
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
To add to that of coarse someone whos pocket is being filled by the people who want to keep sugar on the market is going to side with them. You cant trust these people. If KFC paid me to go on TV and say that their food is healthy then I probably wouldn't think twice. Its all about the money these days and very few researchers or scientists are willing to speak up because they are being funded well by the same people.
avittix 1 year ago
The only people who think that dietary fats are causing obesity are morons. The problem with sugars is that its a drug. Its very addicting and I agree that they don't satisfy hunger to well. It takes a lot of self control when it comes to sugars. I see people at work after just having a meal go for the sweets just because it tastes good and probably gives them that sugar high that they crave. You will never see sugar taken off the market, but it probably should.
avittix 1 year ago
this is a lession of how can people make an eight minute report and leave out the important molecular facts, of how it is split up in the liver it ruins your body like alcohol. noone can deny biochemistry.
it's a toxin. end of story.
highly tax it, if you don't take it off the market at all...
MagnaMater2 1 year ago 2
Lustig's idea about carding kids for any sugar drink is radical, but it is also brilliant and neccessary. I propose we do that for children who buy any sugary item.
alphacause 1 year ago
I smell a rat! Its all about money not the nations health. Screw the corn refiners
gar949 1 year ago
Seems to me like the only people who don't agree with Lustig are people who work for the Corn Refiners Association..... hmmm....interesting...
topheramazz 1 year ago 84
@topheramazz I agree, and they're being PAID to say what they say...if only the American people would open theirs eyes to this.
LJF227 9 months ago
Sugar is a terrible drug. Control it, otherwise it will control you!
XTJimbo1910 1 year ago 26
@XTJimbo1910 Or, one could just care less about processed foods, sugar that they put, and eat only fruits and veggies. Control only comes from constant bombardment of products for u and u succumb to that. I for example have no need to eat sugar. Only what nature provided. Do u realize that in nature, there is no high sugar content in any of the foods at all. Several grams of natural sugars do occur even in a tomato fruit. Its the companies that later add process sugars by lots into your food.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
Corn refiners can go fukk themselves. Do not listen to them. What they do is introduce a molecule that is not found in nature. Therefore our body does not know what to do with it. It tries to process it to the best of its genetic ability but to no avail. We never consumed HFCS and therefore suffer now with health problems. And oh yea, cancer loves sugar and many diseases are a result of acidic bodies. Fun fact: eating lots of meat and bad foods, make male sperm very acidic.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago