@doc7114 Damn. I did some research a while ago, apparently this went down in like '98 or something? The only thing tragic about it to me (I don't really listen to El-p, nothing against him) was that Anticon members were all getting slandered because of Sole at the time, even a bit after it happened.
@Naroon201 It was a product of Sole's paranoia basically. Sole ran a website and put up a banner that said something like company flow vs the spice girls" as a goof I guess. Shortly after that Sole tried to shop his demo to distributors in NY and some of them wouldn't take it because they heard he was the guy who dissed Co-flow, Sole assumed El-p was blackballing him (as if he had the power to do that in 98) and there you have it
my favorite part of that story is Soe's assumption that in order for someone in NY not to want to distribute a Sole record, there has to be some sort of smokey backroom conspiracy, speerheaded by the guy who released funcrusher plus.
I I I I I I Love Company Flow. Never has a dis record used the dumbass that started it as the hook. If you disagree, you're out of touch with reality. he could've just used the hook. I feel like Selena.
JUST PLEASE WORK TOGETHER .. . WHEN I BECAME A MAN I PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS . . THEYRE ARE WAY BIGGER FISH TO FRY NOW . . WORK TOGETHER. i love you both. Selling Live Water , Fan Dam, Sole&Sky Rider Band, and I'll Sleep ARE ALL MASTERPIECES.
Can we not like both? I like both ... completely different rappers. Also, people saying that this 'ended Sole's career'... C'mon folks. They're both doing great. Sole and the Skyrider Band's Hello Cruel World single was fucking dope and now he's working with Bong-Ra, which is amazing. El-P's last decent release was in 2008, but he's still around. This whole 'beef' thing was started on a misunderstanding anyway, as far as I know.
Sole is backed up with some talented mo foes,,,not talking about fighting words, but this track is more mundane than a foggy Monday! It takes more than spitting lyrics when you don't have a talented crew to work with (anticon) label all the fucking way cheap trick!!
Shit, thanks man, I appreciate your words greatly -- not to mention, suggestions; Seriously, you singularly just turned me onto Dose One... Listening to Etherial Downtime - WOW... I am digging the hell outa this. Going to listen to more of his tracks for sure (ty again, this is an amazing artist here); And yo that's insanely cool you saw El-P/Aesop, where'd you see him at man? One of my buddies, who was in boston at the time, got to see Mr. Lif/Aesop, and actually talked to Lif over a drink...
@years4 Haha. Dude, El-P ended Sole Career with this song. After this song, I haven't heard of Sole again. And All of El's Albums are classic too. So, Sole is a sucka. Stop hating.
@darrion052395, Are you retarded? Sole made over seven albums over the past years. I love El-P as much as the next guy, but you're been straight backward.
@TH89, What do you mean? Sole is on Fake Four Inc record label right now. Of course the man still has a career ever since he was at Anticon. Beside, I love both El-P's and Sole's music so much that I never want to see their career end so badly :(
@KINGBEASTBLOOD you have no idea what you're talking about. there's no such thing as "tone deaf," for real expert. monotone? ya listening or what? Ben Stein is monotone.
@pdb1325 BAHAHWAHAHA.. theres no such thing as tone deaf? yes there is just listen to ELPEE and there ya go... shit they just should have let Dose One run him....
@KINGBEASTBLOOD I was sort of rude in that post, I'm hardly ever like that, even on Youtube, it's just not my style, but I guess my fervent passion for El-P's tunes brought that out...so I apologize for sounding like that. Also, when I'm in incorrect I don't mind saying so, I'd much rather counteract any type of ignorance, so after doing (very little) research from a wikipedia article on tone deafness, I'm better informed as to what tone deafness refers to.
@KINGBEASTBLOOD Also, I was under the false impression that tone deafness is a kind of misnomer, but after reading that article, there's a lot more to it than I'd previously thought, so thank ya for that KINGBEASTBLOOD. I still totally dig this track, but I get what you're saying -- it's really non-rhythmic at points, but I kind of like it. Anyways, I'm gonna check out this "Dose One," you're referring to. Sounds pretty dope.
@pdb1325 YO I GIVE YOU ALOT OF PROPS. and Tons of respect for actualy being a man about this when its so easy to just cop out and be childish. i love this track too and im A diehard ANTICON follower. ive seen EL P in concert and he was with AEsop rock and the Dj had a malfunction so there was no music , just the microphones worked, so EL P said " Fuck it well do this shit acopella"
quote end qoue. and man they rocked it. EL P is Brutal when he puts his mind to it. But Check Dose One out. hes one of those you either love him or hate him. but the man is a poet. again mad props on all yer points you got chops @pdb1325
@KINGBEASTBLOOD (Damn word-limits) Anyways, allegedly he was shootin the shit with Lif after the show (my buddies a cool cat, i highly doubt he'd fabricate that but who knows lol), and he told me like...basically Lif was a really down-to-earth dude, incredibly sharp and whatnot... random anecdote, i just always thought that was pretty sick. Maaaan, all this talk, I gotta get me arse to NYC or somethin and actually see some of these artists live! Good meeting you KINGBEASTBLOOD, you seem mad cool
I know this beef is mad old and squashed but dang, these two dudes need to be cutting albums together. Imagine a joint like some "Dumb this Down" rhymes over some Lazer Face type crazy beats!!!
El-P overreacted for sure, but 1) this is one of the most vicious diss songs ever (only Common's "The Bitch in Yoo" comes close), and 2) you never heard anyone else go after El-P after this, did you? He did it to set an example. I wish he was still doing shit like this.
@williamherbert I agree! This was a vicious attack from the taped phone calls of him foldin to the samples at the end of the woman saying "he needs me" this was VERY well put together!
Soleone has been only badly interpreted! forntunatamente the two have cleared. soleone he was not much happy one of the will of El-p to undertake the free market with the defjux, than in fact it is failed. Maximum respect for both king of the scene from east to the west
How did this beef even begin?
Naroon201 3 weeks ago
@Naroon201 Sole randomly dissed him on Dear Elpee.
doc7114 2 weeks ago
@doc7114 Damn. I did some research a while ago, apparently this went down in like '98 or something? The only thing tragic about it to me (I don't really listen to El-p, nothing against him) was that Anticon members were all getting slandered because of Sole at the time, even a bit after it happened.
Naroon201 2 weeks ago
@Naroon201 It was a product of Sole's paranoia basically. Sole ran a website and put up a banner that said something like company flow vs the spice girls" as a goof I guess. Shortly after that Sole tried to shop his demo to distributors in NY and some of them wouldn't take it because they heard he was the guy who dissed Co-flow, Sole assumed El-p was blackballing him (as if he had the power to do that in 98) and there you have it
bassbole 2 weeks ago
my favorite part of that story is Soe's assumption that in order for someone in NY not to want to distribute a Sole record, there has to be some sort of smokey backroom conspiracy, speerheaded by the guy who released funcrusher plus.
bassbole 2 weeks ago
I I I I I I I I I I I I L L L L L O O O O V V V V V E S S S S S O O OO L L LLL LLL EEEEEE FROM AAAAAANTICCCCOOOOONNNNNNN!
KINGBEASTBLOOD 4 weeks ago
i love beef in hip hop, not gonna lie. It spawns classic music, like this for instance
NuggiezVEVO 1 month ago
Both sole and el-p are good. Why did they have to do this stupid beef?
musiclover01ization 1 month ago 3
I I I I I I Love Company Flow. Never has a dis record used the dumbass that started it as the hook. If you disagree, you're out of touch with reality. he could've just used the hook. I feel like Selena.
TheToofpick 1 month ago
Anticon is terrible. Simply terrible.
TheToofpick 1 month ago
@TheToofpick Well, that's your opinion.
musiclover01ization 1 month ago
JUST PLEASE WORK TOGETHER .. . WHEN I BECAME A MAN I PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS . . THEYRE ARE WAY BIGGER FISH TO FRY NOW . . WORK TOGETHER. i love you both. Selling Live Water , Fan Dam, Sole&Sky Rider Band, and I'll Sleep ARE ALL MASTERPIECES.
split876 1 month ago
Can we not like both? I like both ... completely different rappers. Also, people saying that this 'ended Sole's career'... C'mon folks. They're both doing great. Sole and the Skyrider Band's Hello Cruel World single was fucking dope and now he's working with Bong-Ra, which is amazing. El-P's last decent release was in 2008, but he's still around. This whole 'beef' thing was started on a misunderstanding anyway, as far as I know.
kitrichardson 1 month ago
el-p is a machine compared to sole jesus.. anyone hatin is dumb as fuck
losttweaty 1 month ago
Sole is backed up with some talented mo foes,,,not talking about fighting words, but this track is more mundane than a foggy Monday! It takes more than spitting lyrics when you don't have a talented crew to work with (anticon) label all the fucking way cheap trick!!
whitemonster111 2 months ago
and on this old hospital CF baseline....fucking nice.
imperialdesign36 3 months ago
excellent
tvee321 3 months ago
Shit, thanks man, I appreciate your words greatly -- not to mention, suggestions; Seriously, you singularly just turned me onto Dose One... Listening to Etherial Downtime - WOW... I am digging the hell outa this. Going to listen to more of his tracks for sure (ty again, this is an amazing artist here); And yo that's insanely cool you saw El-P/Aesop, where'd you see him at man? One of my buddies, who was in boston at the time, got to see Mr. Lif/Aesop, and actually talked to Lif over a drink...
pdb1325 3 months ago
that harrowing voice in the background sounds like a sample from Bjork
nikai123456789 4 months ago
haha soles dis was good without knowing how poxy this is
mstrmjrpayne 5 months ago
sole diss > el -p diss
nobody likes a sucka nigga:((( el-p is a suckaaa nigga.. never face to face diss:(((( fuck em
years4 5 months ago
@years4 Haha. Dude, El-P ended Sole Career with this song. After this song, I haven't heard of Sole again. And All of El's Albums are classic too. So, Sole is a sucka. Stop hating.
darrion052395 3 months ago
@darrion052395, Are you retarded? Sole made over seven albums over the past years. I love El-P as much as the next guy, but you're been straight backward.
SpikeyJamez 2 months ago
@SpikeyJamez MC Hammer's been making albums too, that doesn't mean his career isn't over.
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@TH89, What do you mean? Sole is on Fake Four Inc record label right now. Of course the man still has a career ever since he was at Anticon. Beside, I love both El-P's and Sole's music so much that I never want to see their career end so badly :(
SpikeyJamez 2 months ago
nvmnd i just found sole's track that shit was honestly wack too. This was just a wack weak argument.
RayRayBeats 6 months ago
@RayRayBeats yur dumb
masterchasekid 4 months ago
man this dude's wack compared to sole. I wish sole dissed HIM that shit would be hot.
RayRayBeats 6 months ago
@RayRayBeats
sole did diss him, the track is called "dear elpee"
nikeskater416 4 months ago
El-P didn't overreact, he simply reacted.
pdb1325 7 months ago 8
El-P: "It's like, do I sound scared?"
Sole: "No, I don't think you sound very scared."
I like El-P and Sole, but this is amazing.
Thom2509 7 months ago
damn
lilspliffster88 7 months ago
El P threw a chainsawon his head not unlike patrick bateman. this shit is stupid.
uberdeathmetal 7 months ago
El p killed it.
TimmysaysLAX 7 months ago
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El PEE sucks the big one. hes tone def... hes got a wack ass mono tone voice... and WE ALL KNOW EL PEE CANT FREESTYLE OR BATTLE!
LONG LIVE THE BADDEST POET SOLE
ANTICON
KINGBEASTBLOOD 8 months ago
@KINGBEASTBLOOD you have no idea what you're talking about. there's no such thing as "tone deaf," for real expert. monotone? ya listening or what? Ben Stein is monotone.
pdb1325 7 months ago
@pdb1325 BAHAHWAHAHA.. theres no such thing as tone deaf? yes there is just listen to ELPEE and there ya go... shit they just should have let Dose One run him....
KINGBEASTBLOOD 6 months ago
@KINGBEASTBLOOD I was sort of rude in that post, I'm hardly ever like that, even on Youtube, it's just not my style, but I guess my fervent passion for El-P's tunes brought that out...so I apologize for sounding like that. Also, when I'm in incorrect I don't mind saying so, I'd much rather counteract any type of ignorance, so after doing (very little) research from a wikipedia article on tone deafness, I'm better informed as to what tone deafness refers to.
pdb1325 3 months ago
@KINGBEASTBLOOD Also, I was under the false impression that tone deafness is a kind of misnomer, but after reading that article, there's a lot more to it than I'd previously thought, so thank ya for that KINGBEASTBLOOD. I still totally dig this track, but I get what you're saying -- it's really non-rhythmic at points, but I kind of like it. Anyways, I'm gonna check out this "Dose One," you're referring to. Sounds pretty dope.
pdb1325 3 months ago
@pdb1325 YO I GIVE YOU ALOT OF PROPS. and Tons of respect for actualy being a man about this when its so easy to just cop out and be childish. i love this track too and im A diehard ANTICON follower. ive seen EL P in concert and he was with AEsop rock and the Dj had a malfunction so there was no music , just the microphones worked, so EL P said " Fuck it well do this shit acopella"
KINGBEASTBLOOD 3 months ago
quote end qoue. and man they rocked it. EL P is Brutal when he puts his mind to it. But Check Dose One out. hes one of those you either love him or hate him. but the man is a poet. again mad props on all yer points you got chops @pdb1325
KINGBEASTBLOOD 3 months ago
@KINGBEASTBLOOD (Damn word-limits) Anyways, allegedly he was shootin the shit with Lif after the show (my buddies a cool cat, i highly doubt he'd fabricate that but who knows lol), and he told me like...basically Lif was a really down-to-earth dude, incredibly sharp and whatnot... random anecdote, i just always thought that was pretty sick. Maaaan, all this talk, I gotta get me arse to NYC or somethin and actually see some of these artists live! Good meeting you KINGBEASTBLOOD, you seem mad cool
pdb1325 3 months ago
el p was on another dimension !
dnt82 8 months ago
I know this beef is mad old and squashed but dang, these two dudes need to be cutting albums together. Imagine a joint like some "Dumb this Down" rhymes over some Lazer Face type crazy beats!!!
Oh well all is fair in the land of hip hop ego.
PumaSweat 9 months ago
El-P overreacted for sure, but 1) this is one of the most vicious diss songs ever (only Common's "The Bitch in Yoo" comes close), and 2) you never heard anyone else go after El-P after this, did you? He did it to set an example. I wish he was still doing shit like this.
williamherbert 9 months ago
@williamherbert I agree! This was a vicious attack from the taped phone calls of him foldin to the samples at the end of the woman saying "he needs me" this was VERY well put together!
TheHipHopBodega 9 months ago 2
@williamherbert untrue though, Esoteric went at El and got hit in a similarly vicious fashion with 7700 years to date.
nesuferit 6 months ago
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KentrichErvonia 2 days ago
el-p wishes he was as good or as dope as sole.sole will merk anyone you know.sole for life .
chrisstretch1 9 months ago
@chrisstretch1
sole sounds like a nerdy middle class white teenager who spends most of his time playing black ops online in a clan
fewch100 8 months ago
why would elp dis an unknown? i like sole, but there was no dis to him at the end of end to end burnerz
Antag0nistiC 10 months ago
el p straight up fuckin destroyed this nutrider. but its all good now, they cleaned the slate and ate the beef. but el p came out on top.
therealpsp1mp 11 months ago
naw i think sole takes it.elp is ok but the diss from sole is sicker its comedy
dgreat1986 11 months ago
That bjork sample is SICK!!!!
holy shit!!! I never thought of flipping hunter like that
jspitz 11 months ago
El-P, can't burn it.
canihassamuel 11 months ago 2
i hate this guy...
kers1ecm 1 year ago
haha sole has such a dorky voice
pepperjack91 1 year ago
Soleone has been only badly interpreted! forntunatamente the two have cleared. soleone he was not much happy one of the will of El-p to undertake the free market with the defjux, than in fact it is failed. Maximum respect for both king of the scene from east to the west
heshotone 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong, I like both artist, and the song is not bad, but I find the diss unnecessary.
Beside this song is old, so I know the two artist are okay with each other now, I guess.
SpikeyJamez 1 year ago
um im on soles side, but i think elp won
masterchasekid 1 year ago