He believes that we are humiliated not because of Shirk and Bid'ah, but the following: quote: In our times, it is the fear of death... the fear of sacrificing your finger, your toe, a drop of blood... that is more honourable than anything else. We are the most humiliated nation on the face of this earth, there is no doubt. Why? Because martyrdom to us is not appealing, it's not as appealing to us as it was to those ancestors, the great warriors.
@DrakyGordon quote: We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam... Teach them this: there is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid. Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom. ..lets remember that the prophet taught tawheed first for 13 years in mecca before the first war. any salafee should know that tawheed is the foundation to everything in life from raising children to ridding ourselves of harms
@DrakyGordon these statements are from 2003 lectures ..so he may have retracted these statements but i am not aware of it . he was also asked to leave Australia some time ago due to his militant statements .. we have so many duaat to take from ..in this case he is very questionable ..may allah bring about further clarity ..but for now we should avoid doubt able matters.
Mash'allah may Allah reward you for posting this and may Allah reward and increase the level of Malik Abdullah from Saudi Arabia and increase him him in Khair. as Imaam Barbahari(d3.29) said a sign that a person is person of sunnah is that he makes Du'aa for the muslim rulers & how u know a person is from Ahl-ul Bid'ah is he makes Du'aa Against the muslim ruler (Sharh us-Sunnah) may Allah increase them & You in good aameen
@NasirAlHanbali Jazak Allahu khayr. It's a shame people fail to understand this. This is a country, perhaps the only one in the world, that actually calls to Tawheed and forbids Shirk, as government policy and implements shari'ah, yet the Khawaarij want to destroy this land and its rulers!? Why not make du'a for them and ask Allah to correct their mistakes. Whatever happened to helping the Muslim lands instead of spreading destruction and chaos?
@NasirAlHanbali It's like Shaykh Luhaydan, hafidhaullah, once remarked (paraphrasing), "we dont see the Kuffar wanting to overthrow their rulers and destroy their countries, why do many muslims want to do this? " May Allah aid the Salafis to spread the Sunnah far and wide ameen. Wallah, the Muslims need to wake up and realise the TRUTH, as Allah said: "Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change what is within themselves". And NOT BY OVERTHROWING RULERS (good or bad)!
they are kuffar due to sins which necessitate shirk and kufr not just merely sins like consuming alcohol, fornication etc. that is the aqeedah of the khawarij
@muslimallday Good advice. By setting comments on approval only, you'd avoid having to come back and delete comments every other day. You wont have to waste your valuable time on these filthy Khawarij scum that have nothing better to do, except cause trouble and give the noble deen of Islam a bad name Allahu musta'an.
fuck saudi rulers...they are fucking agents and you are liar to lure ppl into thinking this would be against Fat ass saudi agents of anglos...while you are kissing their filthy ass!
this is just against the ummah, and dividing the muslims,this is just another example of kuffaar and big $bucks to this man , he sound like more dangerous then those he blaming ,may allaah guide u ameen
MashaAllah...your own comment is enough to explain your falsehood and how ignorant you guys are: "((((((((ATT ENTION ))))))))ALL OF YOU FILTHY KHAWARIJI THAT LIKE TO LEAVE STUPID COMMENTS AND DISPLAY YOUR STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE ,DONT WAIST YOUR TIME ! BECAUSE I WILL ERASE AND BLOCK YOU! "
@IslamicCyber1 "number one its not a comment"..its my video description. number 2 its a true statement..a khawariji is a horrible thing to be..correct? the khwarij killed a relative of the prophet (salalahu alaihi wa selam )right? the khawarij were one of the first to go astray from the teachings of the religion .. there methodology has influenced many today and it has dishonored our religion ...so is the title filthy khawariji"enough to explain my falsehood" as you stated?the burden is upon you
yeah whatever it is, and whoever the khwarij are (debatable - i dont accept fatawa of scholars who cant think independently), your description tells that you are ignorant
@IslamicCyber1 You say that the application of the word khawariji is debatable? So then why are you offended by my description? Lol did I call you a khawariji? Lol no but you must think you are a khawariji because you are offended...or maybe you were called a khawariji a few times.. Allahuilum .. Your point ? :) the burden of making sense is now upon you..
yes i know that they call my revolutionary thoughts as khariji and i ask them how dare can they say so when they are not elligible to ... between what ever it is you cant just delete and block other users.. that was the point
@cdwillingboro Couldn't have put it better myself, Akhi, wa jazak Allahu khayr. You have to be a compound ignorant, or worse, a fool, not to see the harms the Khawaarij have bought upon the Ummah. The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasallam said, "They are the worst of Allaah’s creation under the sky.” and this guy wants to know what's wrong with them??!! LOL. These Khawarij have done untold damage to the Muslims and they have ruined the image of Islam in front of the Non-Muslims! This isn't evil?
@cdwillingboro continued... Here in England, the foolish, criminal activities of the Khawaarij gave rise to the EDL, a racist anti-Islamic movement. This movement went around cities and towns cursing and even attacking any Muslims they found! Now, if you go outside, in London, and the Kuffar see you with a beard, thobe, they give you dirty looks, as if they're thinking in their minds, this guys a terrorist, he hates us etc. Almost everywhere you get this. All because of the Khawaarij!!
@cdwillingboro Wallahi thumma wallahi, if the Muslims called to Muslim, the way our Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam did, the Kuffar would have no reason to hate us, even if there were some Muslims who were bad, or did evil things. Look at what Abu Sufyaan radi Allahu 3nhu said when Heraclius, the Roman Emperor, enquired about the da'wah of the Prophet. Abu Sufyan replied...
@cdwillingboro Abu Sufyan said,"'He tells us to worship Allaah and Allaah alone and not to worship anything along with Him, and to renounce all that our ancestors had said. He orders us to pray, to speak the truth, to be chaste and to keep good relations with our Kith and kin.' Similarly, when the Ethiopian King, the Negus, enquired about Islam, the Sahabi Ja'far radi Allahu 3nhu replied, "He called us to the unity of God, and taught us not to associate any other being with him....
@cdwillingboro He forbade us the worship of idols which we and our fathers used to worship. He commanded us always to speak the truth, to remain true to our trust, to love the relatives and to be good neighbors. He commanded us to honor our promises, to be kind to our relations, to cease all forbidden acts, to abstain from bloodshed and to avoid obstinacies and false witness." Now, Brothers and Sisters, do you see how these two Sa7aba described the Prophet's daw'ah?
@cdwillingboro if You didn't, then go back and read again. Both those Sa7aba said that the da'wah of the Prophet was to START OFF WITH CALLING THE PEOPLE TO THE WORSHIP OF ALLAH ALONE (MEANING, TAWHEED), to call to praying the salah, to speak the truth, honour promises, be good to parents etc etc. Have you noticed this? Now ponder, if the Muslims were calling to all of this and acted upon what they called to, do You think the Kuffar would hate us for the reasons they do now?
@cdwillingboro continued... What Abu Sufyaan (who was a mushrik at the time) described about the daw'ah of the Prophet, was what the Prophet was actually calling the people to. This is what the NON-MUSLIMS KNEW ISLAM TO BE: Worshipping Allah alone, not worshipping idols, being truthful, keep ties of kinship etc. FIND ME A KAFIR TODAY, WHO WOULD SAY THE SAME THINGS ABOUT ISLAM? HARDLY ANY, i WOULD SAY! You ask an average Kafir/Muslim today, " hey, what was the da'wah of the Prophet?"
@cdwillingboro continued.... Most likely, they would reply, "They want to establish sharee'ah, take over out country kill and terrorise non-musims, etc.. Why? Because this is what the Khawaarij call to! And the Kuffar think, what the Khawarij call to is ISLAM! Go back to the what those Sa7aba said about the da'wah of the Prophet, do you find any mention of calling to an Islamic state, terrorism etc. No, of course not! This is the image of Islam the Kuffar have, when they think about Islam
@cdwillingboro The only ones who are calling to Islam, the way the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi sallam did, are the Salafis alhamdolillah. If the Salafis succeed in getting the (TRUE) message of Islam to these non-Muslims, things will change in cha Allah. Which kafir will have problems with a religion that calls to worshipping God Alone, or speaking the truth, being good to parents?!! This is what we should be calling to, but, unfortunately, nowadays, due to the Khawarij its all about politics 24/7
@cdwillingboro contiued... This Ruler this, that Ruler that and oh look at what the Americans are doing!! No! This is not da'wah, THIS IS NOT THE DA'WAH OF RASULULLAH SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM!!!! May Allah guide the Muslims back to the correct methodology of da'wah, the da'wah of the Prophets AMEEN!
@cdwillingboro Oh, I just noticed, this guy listens to Feiz, khalid Y (the Khawaarij). Is it any wonder He is crying about us calling his chums Khawaarij lol? May Allah guide him or protect the Muslims from him and his likes. AMEEN. Wallah, the Muslims need to wake up and return back to the pure Islam, that which the Salafis call to, before its too late. These Khawaarij bring nothing but destruction wa la 7awla wala 9uwata illah billah!
@fbeg84 Also, once again, go to the website: AQIDAH(DOT)COM, and read the SERIES OF articles: THE SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH. Try to read it from beginning to end, part one to part 4 in cha Allah. You will gain a much better understanding than what I’ve written here.
@fbeg84 Lastly, please forgive me for making you read such a lengthy response. But I am only doing this for your benefit and mines in cha Allah. Please feel free to ask me or cdwillingbro any questions or clarifications you may have. You can write here or PM us in cha Allah.
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... What are it’s categories and how many types are there? What is innovation in the religion and how does something become and innovation? Etc etc. All this, you will find in the links I’ve given you. You can go to my Channel and click on my recommended websites.
@fbeg84 I strongly advice you to concentrate on learning the basics of the religion, especially Tawheed: singling out Allah with ALL WORSHIP. What does this mean? What are it’s categories, its conditions etc. What is the opposite of Tawheed, SHIRK, the greatest sin Islam.
@fbeg84 I hope you understand now, why some of us seem harsh with other Muslims who call to and defend innovation.
As for Yourself, I urge you to go and check out those links I’ve already given you. Those websites are AUTHENTIC and they contain knowledge of the religion which has taken and translated from the words of the orthodox, Sunni Scholars.
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... We don’t unite with just anybody, even with some Muslims, who are deviated and call to innovation. Allah and His Messenger command us To STAY AWAY FROM MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE AND CALL TO INNOVATION. We have been commanded to DISTINGUISH OURSELVES AND THE ORTHODOX, SUNNI BELIEF FROM THE INCORRECT BELEIFS AND PRACTICES OF DEVIANT MUSLIMS.
@fbeg84 But what we don’t do, dear Brother, is GET ALL THE MUSLIMS TOGETHER, REGARDLESS OF THEIR BELIEFS AND ACTIONS, THE INNOVATING MUSLIM, AND THE ORTHODOX ONES, AND LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SHOWING UNITY. This in reality, is NOT UNITY, THIS IS DECEIVING OURSELVES. And in fact, this is haraam.
@fbeg84 As for the giving da’wah to the Non-Muslims and the ordinary average Muslim (who does not call to innovation), then no doubt YOU ARE RIGHT. WE MUST BE KIND AND GENTLE WITH THEM AND CALL THEM TO ISLAM WITH GOOD MANNERISM AND THIS IS THE BEST FORM OF DA’WAH.
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... The orthodox, sunni scholars who came afterwards did it to, and this has continued to this day. AND THIS REFUTING AND WARNNING AGAINST INNOVATION AND ITS PEOPLE (IS PART OF STRIVING TO UNIFY THE MUSLIMS).
@fbeg84 So what am I trying to get at here? I am showing you, that REFUTING THOSE MUSLIMS WHO CALL TO INNOVATION IS NOT A BAD THING. IN ACTUALITY, IT’S A FORM OF WORSHIP, A JIHAD, IN ISLAM. The Prophet sallallahu 3laihi salam did it and commanded it be done, and His Companions radi Allahu 3nhom did it to.
@fbeg84 The answer: IT WAS INNOVATION IN THE RELIGION. They Christians and the Jews also innovated into their religion and changed and distorted and altered the beliefs and they have split into many different sects and groups and to this day, they are split. However, with the final message of Islam, Allah has promised to protect it from alteration walillahil hamd;
@fbeg84 Before the arrival of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu 3laihi wasalam, how did the Christians and Jews arrive where they are now? I mean, how did they depart from the original message of Jesus and Moses alaihomos salam, and change the original message?
@fbeg84 The Scholars who came afterwards, also continued this practice of warning against innovation and it’s people. There are 100s, if not 1000s, of books written refuting innovation and those who call to it.
@fbeg84 After the Prophet passed away, the companions of the Prophets also severely warned against innovation AND (IT’S PEOPLE). When the sects of innovation appeared, THEY WARNED AND REFUTED THEM AND DISTANCED THEMSELVES AWAY FROM THOSE DEVIANT MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE INTO THE RELIGION. Why is this necessary? Firstly, to protect the religion from alteration and corruption and secondly, to protect the Muslims from the sin of innovation and to PREVENT SPLITS AMONG THE MUSLIMS FROM OCCURING.
@fbeg84 The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) also warned against the People of Innovation, from befriending, supporting or taking from them saying: "Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon him is the curse of Allaah, His Angels and the whole of mankind." (Bukhari)
@fbeg84 He sallallahu 3laihi wasalam also called another group of deviant Muslims, the Qadariya, “the fire-worshippers of this Ummah”. He warned the general Muslims to stay away from them and not to visit them when they are sick.
@fbeg84 HE SALLLALLAHU 3LAIHI SALAM TOLD US, THAT THESE KHAWARIJ WILL FIGHT AGAINST THE MUSLIMS AND SHED OUR BLOOD AND LEAVE THE POLYTHEISTS... AND HE TOLD US MANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT THEM. HE ALSO PRAISED THOSE MUSLIM RULERS WHO FIGHT AND KILL THESE KHAWARIJ. And these Khawarij, they are not Kuffar, they ARE MUSLIMS!
@fbeg84 The Prophet sallallahu 3laihi wasalam CALLED A GROUP OF DEVIANT MUSLIMS, YES MUSLIMS, “DOGS OF THE HELLFIRE”. THIS IS BECAUSE, THESE MUSLIMS DECLARE OTHER MUSLIMS TO BE KUFFAR ON ACCOUNT OF MAJOR SINS (I’ve already alluded to this sect earlier). THIS SECT IS KNOWN IN ISLAM AS ‘THE KHAWARIJ’.
@fbeg84 And as part of this effort to reunify the Muslims, we have to PURIFY THE REILGION FROM ALL THE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES THAT ARE ALIEN TO IT and THIS INCLUDES WARNING THE MUSLIMS AGAINST THOSE DEVIANT MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE INTO THE RELIGION AND REFUTING THESE FALSE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES, SO THAT THE MUSLIMS WILL STAY AWAY FROM IT.
Where did I get this from? This is not from me, but what the Prophet sallallahu 3laihi wasalam and Companions radi Allahu 3nhom DID AND COMMANDED US TO DO.
@fbeg84 And I could go on with other Muslim sects, but let’s just stop here..
The point is, DISUNITY WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE MUSLIMS INNOVATING INTO THE RELIGION AND BRINGING ABOUT THEIR OWN DISUNITY. For us, now to become united again, we must return back to the SAME BELIEF AND METHODOLOGY that THE PROPHET AND HIS COMPANIONS were upon, STARTING WITH THE BELIEF IN ALLAH FIRST, THE TAWHEED OF ALLAH.
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... There are even Muslims who belief it is good to go to the graves of the dead, righteous people and pray to them, invoking them for help, when they should be invoking and praying to Allah, and to ALLAH ALONE. Or they believe in amulets and some of these Muslims go to soothsayers, fortune-tellers. THIS IS ALL SHIRK (!); THE GREATEST SIN IN ISLAM, THE VERY THING (ALL) THE PROPHETS CAME TO ERADICATE. Yet, we have a LARGE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS WHO COMMIT THIS SHIRK!
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... This is an innovation in the religion and opposes what our Prophet alaihis salam said about obeying the Rulers (only in the good) and not revolting against them and not declaring the sinning Muslims to be a Kafir. And most important of all, THE PROPHET STARTED WITH TAWHEED NOT RULERSHIP. HE CALLED THE PEOPLE TO WORSHIP ALLAH (ALONE) AND TO ABANDON THE WORSHIP OF OTHERS BESIDES ALLAH.
@fbeg84 There are yet other Muslims, the ones Abu Khadeejah is refuting in the video, who believe that it is permissible to revolt against the Muslim Rulers and they declare Muslims to be Kuffar on account of them commiting major sins and they exaggerate the importance of having an Islamic state, to the point where they claim that establishing the Islamic states is the biggest fard.
@fbeg84 CONTINUED...... These ones, have opposed the correct, orthodox belief in Islam which states that: we believe in the attributes of Allah as they have come, with its apparent meaning – without resembling Him to the creation; and they have innovated new ways of believing in the names and attributes of Allah and therefore, they have SPLIT AWAY FROM THE UNITED BODY.
@fbeg84 There are other Muslims, who deny and distort the names and attributes of Allah. So for example, some of them, when they come across an ayah in the quran or hadeeth which talks about Allah’s attributes, for instance, Allah’s Hands, they say ‘no Allah does not have a hand, in actuality this means power not hand’.
@fbeg84 So we have muslims nowadays, who celebrate the birthday of the Prophet, something which WAS NOT DONE BY THE PROPHET ALAIHISALAM OR HIS COMPANIONS, and believe they are doing good when in fact they have committed A MAJOR SIN. They have opposed Allah and His Messenger by innovating an act of worship that is alien to the religion of Islam AND AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE SPLIT AWAY from the united body of Muslims.
@fbeg84 However, dear Brother, we must first understand: what is it that HAS CAUSED us to be DISUNITED IN THE FIRST PLACE? The answer is, and I reiterate,( INNOVATIONS IN THE RELIGION). When you have Muslims who innovate new beliefs and actions (of worship) into our religion, then (THIS RESULTS IN DISUNITY); AND ALLAH PUNISHES THE MUSLIMS, BY ALLOWING THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM TO OVERPOWER THEM.
@fbeg84 Dear Brother, yes, we, the muslims, need to UNITE. There is no doubt about the fact, that DISUNITY IS EVIL; and it is disunity that has severely weakened the Muslims and caused us to be humiliated by the enemies of Islam.
@fbeg84 Wa Alaikumus salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
And Ramadan Mubarak! Thank you and jazak Allahu khayran, Brother, for the beautiful du’a. AMEEN!
Bro, I am sorry but this is going to be a lengthy answer to some of the things you raised. I ask You to be patient and try to read what I am going to write in cha Allah.
@AbuAbdullahUK CONTINUED.... however, the Muslims will also split, due to innovations, but Allah has promised to protect the original message and has commanded us, the Muslims, to stick to the original belief and acts of worship, found in the Quran and Sunnah and consensus of the Companions, and stay away from innovations and its callers.
@fbeg84 Sorry Brother, I made a mistake. The website to go to for a detailed explanation of the causes of splitting and how unite is AQIDAH(DOT)COM and read the 4 part series of articles: SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH.
@fbeg84 Most IMPORTANTLY, as a new Muslim, I urge you to study the basics of the Islamic belief, Tawhid, Shirk, Sunnah, Bidah etc etc. Go to the website: SPUBS(DOT)COM – and then where it says: I am a Muslim and wish to learn the basics..., click on [enter here] and read as much of the articles you can find there.
@fbeg84 For a more detailed explanation of the cause of splitting among the Muslims and how to bring back unity, go to the website: MANHAJ(DOT)COM –and then read three 4 part series of articles called: SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH.
@fbeg84 Therefore, for the MuslimS to be united AGAIN, AND FOR THEM TO BE FROM THAT SAVED SECT (mentioned in above), they must return back to the ORIGINAL, PURE, PRISTINE Islam, the Quran and Sunnah, as UNDERSTOOD by the COMPANIONS AND DISCIPLES OF THE PROPHET; STARTING WITH [TAWHID] FIRST – I URGE YOU TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THIS WORD MEANS.
@fbeg84 As Brother cdwillingbro mentioned, Our Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam said the Muslims will split into 73 sects, 72 WILL GO TO THE HELLFIRE, [AS PUNISHMENT FOR INNOVATING INTO THE RELIGEON AND SPLITTING] WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 1 SECT [WHICH WILL BE SAVED, BECAUSE ITS ADHERENTS STUCK RIGIDLY TO ISLAM, FREE OF INNOVATION].
@fbeg84 Innovations (in the religion) are those BELIEFS AND ACTIONS which are NEWLY INTRODUCED into the religion, with which nearness to Allah is sought [BUT NOT] BEING SUPPORTED BY ANY AUTHENTIC PROOF FROM ISLAM – NEITHER IN ITS FOUNDATIONS/MANNER IN WHICH IT IS PERFORMED.”
@fbeg84 Wa Alaikumus Salam wa Rahmatullahi Barakatuhu
Dear Brother,
In a nutshell: there are many reasons why the Muslims are split. The MAIN CAUSE for the Muslims splitting into opposing groups and sects is INNOVATIONS (in the religion).
@fbeg84 wa alaikym asalaam wa rahmahtulahi wa barkatuhu .welcome to this beautiful religion ..ulhamdulilah..when i took shahadah it took me about 2years to realize there was division..at the end of the day i had to realize that someone has to be correct in their arguments...most of the people that you see on this page are from a group of muslims called the khawariji ..they ignore the ahadeeth and iyats to justify their terror and oppression ..and they have disgraced our pure religion ..
@cdwillingboro despite the fact that we argue it should still be know that we are still all muslim inshallah ...however sometimes argumentation has to be established to present the truth..the fact is our prophet (saws)said we would split into 73 sects and all would be in the fire exept 1.and that 1 sect are those that are upon what the salaf were upon..terror and oppression was not the call of islam ..tawheed is the call...this is also the means to solving our problems.
@fbeg84 the problem is many like to ignore tawheed when they want to justify killing and suicide bombing and all the other forms of terror as if to say its not needed in their case..but they fail to realize that tawheed is the way to pleasing allah.. by pleasing allah we will see allah doing things to please us.. this means many of the situations that are upon the muslims would vanish ..but instead of applying the basics and being patient they go out and disgrace our religion..
@salafisblockme You will see, that your understanding is FALSE and the correct understanding of that hadeeth is with AHLUS-SUNNAH, Salafiyoon, those who understand the Kitab and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Salaf.
@salafisblockme Another issue I need to talk about, is the matter OF EXPELLING THE KUFFAR FROM THE ARABIAN PENINSULA. You’ve brought the same KHARIJITE GARBAGE, devoid of knowledge any understanding. In cha Allah I will bring the speech of the ‘Ulamah, to EXPLAIN the hadeeth about expelling the Kuffar from the Arabian peninsula.
@salafisblockme The Saudi state, in the Gulf war, HIRED THE AMERICANS TO REPEL THE INVADING ARMY OF Saddam Hussain, who at the time was a Kafir, Communist and no doubt, would have wanted to establish a Baathi, Communist state over the Arabian peninsula, had he been allowed to conquer Saudi and Kuwait. THIS IS PERMISSABLE.
@salafisblockme One of the evidences used by the ‘Ulamah is, when the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam hired 'Abdullaah bin Urayqit al-Laythee, a mushrik, who was highly a experienced tracker, to guide Him sallallahu 3laihi wasalam to Madinah, while He was chased by the Mushrikeen of Makkah.
@salafisblockme The Saudi states action does not fall into either categories, Tawwallee or Muwaalat. They fall into the third category, THE ACT OF SEEKING AID FROM THE KUFFAR BY HIRING THEM. THE PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE DEEM THIS PERMISSABLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
@salafisblockme However, that ayah revealed concerning Hatib radi Allahu 3nhu, is general for all those who commit Muwaalat with the Kuffar; they are sinning NOT EXITING ISLAM, AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT! Imam Qutubee, Abu Bakr ibn al-arabee (not the heretical sufee), from the salaf, have also explained these categories of assisting the kuffar. Refer to them, if You care!
@salafisblockme And as for your statement, THE HADEETH STATES THE RASUL SALLALLHU 3LAIHI WASALAM STATED ALLAH FORGAVE HIM BECAUSE HE FOUGHT IN BADR.
YES, BUT HE WAS FORGIVEN FOR HIS ACT OF MUWAALAT TO THE KUFAAR [WHICH IS AN ACT OF SIN, HARAM] NOT KUFR THAT EXPELS FROM THE RELIGION, AS YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE. TAWWALLEE EXPELS FROM THE RELIGEON (see earlier posts), MUWAALAT DOESN’T.
@salafisblockme Amr , a sub-narrator of this hadeeth, said: ‘this verse was revealed about him (Hatib): “O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies as your friends or protectors.” (60.1). The people of knowledge explained that, Allah addressed them with the name of Iman (O you who believe), and the one who shows love to the Kuffar, and aided or assisted them for the sake of the dunya, NOT DUE TO DOUBTING IN THE DEEN ITSELF.
@salafisblockme continued... “As for al-Muwaalat, then it is co-operating and dissimulation, flattery towards the Kuffar for the sake of a worldy objective, WITHOUT CONCEALING AN INTENTION OF KUFR AND APOSTACY FROM ISLAM (refer to the explanation of Tawwallee in my earlier posts). Such as what occurred from Hatib bin Abee Balta’ah radi Allahu 3nhu, when He wrote to the quraish informing them of the journey of the Messenger sallallahu 3laihi wasalam.” (Majmoo’ al-Fatwaa 1/20).
@salafisblockme Now, the salaf they explained the issue of tawwallee and Muwaalat in detail, INCLUDING THE STORY OF HATIB BIN BALTA’AH. They differentiated between the one who makes tawwallee and the one how makes muwaalat with the Kuffar. Shaykhul Islam ibn Taymiyah, yes, ibn Taymiyah said¸when talking about muwaalat:
@salafisblockme We dont go to the Quran and Sunnah, like you people, and start picking out rulings; taking one part of the book and ignoring the rest!
@salafisblockme You see, WE, UNLIKE YOU, TAKE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH, THE WAY THE EARLY SALAF UNDERSTOOD IT, and those Scholars who came later and are UPON THIS WAY. Why is this? Because, Allah and His Messenger have ordered us with this and WHOEVER FOLLOWS A WAY OTHER THAN THE WAY OF THE SALAF, THEN HE WILL BECOME MISGUIDED, ASTRAY, A DEVIANT!
@salafisblockme Subhan Allah, you are one deluded and stubborn individual! But then again, what can you expect from somebody who takes his deen from khawaarij like awlaki and 'ali at-tamimee! Once again, you have exposed your ignorance of the deen.
@neosalafi2010 One of the evidences used by the ‘Ulamah is, when the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam hired 'Abdullaah bin Urayqit al-Laythee, a mushrik, who was highly experienced tracker, to guide Him sallallahu 3laihi wasalam to Madinah, while He was chased by the Mushrikeen of Makkah. THIS IS THE CATEGORY WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE. THE SAUDI STATE HIRED THE AMERICANS, TO REPEL THE AGGRESSION OF SADDAM’S INVADING, COMMUNIST ARMY. Hence, THIS IS PERMISSABLE!
@neosalafi2010 Another proof, is the saying of Allah: “O you who believe, do not take my enemy and your enemy as friends.” Allah addressed them with: ‘O you who believe....’, indicating that they are still believers.
The third matter is seeking aid from the Kuffar and hiring them. THE PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE DEEM THIS PERMISSABLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
@neosalafi2010 The proof is the story of the Sahabi haatib bin abi balta’ah radi Allahu 3nhu, who tried to inform some mushrikeen in Makkah about some of the plans and affairs of the Rasul sallahu 3laihi wasalam. When He was confronted, He said He only did this as a favour to the mushrikeen so that they dont hurt His own relatives in Makkah or in exchange for not harming them.
@neosalafi2010 The second category is Muwalaat, which is having loyalty in one’s actions, or outwardly aiding the Kuffar, but WITHOUT CONCEALING THE KUFR OF TAWWALLEE (see above), and which is DONE FOR A WORDLY GOAL OR TO AVERT HARM, and is not for the sake of religion. [THIS IS HARAM BUT NOT KUFR].
@neosalafi2010 The above ayah talks about TAWWALLEE – aiding the kuffar, while having LOVE FOR THEIR DEEN and this expels the doer from the religion. NOT the way YOU EXPLAINED IT! PROVE TO ME THAT THE KING OF SA’UDI AND SHAIKH IBN BAAZ MADE TAWWAALEE TO THE AMERICANS?
@AbuAbdullahUK@AbuAbdullahUK - Subhanallah why has my comments been removed because it expose your deviant beliefs of supporting and assisting the modern day crusaders of today. You forgot to mention the brothers and sisters what the prophet (saw) response was to his actions. The sahabi mentioned earlier who disclosed the secrets to the mushrikeen attend badr and you know the virtues of sahaba that fought in badr. The prophet said it is as if they can do anything and Allah has forgiven them
@salafisblockme ok another piece of evidence mentioned by our Salafi Brother and da'ee, Abu Khadeejah, for the PERMISSIBILITY OF HIRING THE KUFFAR WHEN THERE IS A NECESSITY, is the hadeeth where the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam mentioned that before the coming of the Dajjal, THAT THE BELIEVERS [WILL UNITE] WITH THE CHRISTIANS AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY, IN A UNITED ARMY WILL DEFEAT THE COMMON ENEMY.
@salafisblockme The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam called the Muslims who participated in this battle: "THEY WILL BE THE BEST OF THE BELIEVERS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ON THAT DAY...." Up until the end of the hadeeth. So here, we have the best of the Muslims, cooperating with A [CHRISTIAN ARMY], NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL, O NEOSALAFI2010, BUT AN ARMY! SO DONT TRY TO USE THE NUMBERS GAME! The Brother, Abu Khadeejah, also mentioned, that the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam sought the aid of the....
@salafisblockme continued.... of the Mushrikeen, in the Battle of Hunayn (on part 2 of the lecture). There are many other evidences, O neokhalafi, seek it from the Salafi 'Ulamah if you want the TRUTH!.
@salafisblockme "It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ'id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)];
@salafisblockme continued: and others not entirely clear. SO AS FOR THOSE IN WHOSE HEARTS THERE IS A DEVIATION (from the truth) THEY FOLLOW THAT WHICH IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR THEREOF, SEELING AL-FITNAH (polytheism and trials, etc.), AND SEEKING FOR ITS HIDDEN MEANINGS, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh.....(Aali Imran 3:7)
Here Allah said that the people of deviation, leave that which is MUHKAM (decisive, clear) and chase after that which is MUTASHABIHAT (ambigious, unclear)
@salafisblockme This is what you and your kind are doing, neokhalafi2010. You LEAVE THE EVIDENCES WHICH ARE MUHKAM AND CHASE AFTER THE AMBIGIOUS EVIDENCES. An example of that is where we cited the hadeeth, WHERE THE RASUL SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALM, EXPLICITLY, [IN THE CLEAREST WORDS], PROHIBITED SPEAKING AGAINST THE MUSLIMS RULERS IN PUBLIC, even of the muslim Rulers are in the wrong. HE, SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM, COMMANDED US TO ADVICE THE RULERS IN PRIVATE.
@salafisblockme NOTICE THAT THE NABI SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM SAID: "...TAKING THEM BY THE HAND...." So, THIS HADEETH IS MUHKAM. IT IS CLEAR, DECISIVE, UNAMBIGIOUS. THIS IS HOW SAHABA BEHAVED TOWARDS THE RULERS. THEY ADVISED THEM IN [PRIVATE], NOT IN PUBLIC.
WE HAVE REPORTS FROM THE SAHABA, WHICH SHOW THEY IMPLEMENTED THE ABOVE HADEETH, ADVISED THE RULERS IN PRIVATE AND SCOLDED ANYONE WHO ]CRITICISES THE RULERS IN PUBLIC].
@salafisblockme Furthermore, we have FROM THE IMAMS OF THE EARLY TIMES, IMAM AHMED, IMAM BARBAHARI AND OTHERS, WHO FORBADE FROM SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RULERS [IN PUBLIC] AND REVOLTING AGAINST THEM ETC ETC.
What do we see You and your likes doing? You oppose this command from our Rasul sallallahu 3laihiwasalam, you come out on Youtube speak against the Rulers, IN PUBLIC, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CLAIM YOU FOLLOW THE TRUTH, THE KHULAFA RASHIDEEN!!! WHAT DELUSION!!!!
@salafisblockme YOU LEAVE THIS CLEAR HADEETH, PROHIBITING SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RULERS [IN PUBLIC] AND YOU RUN TO ANOTHER HADEETH, WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT STAYING AWAY FROM THE GATES OF THE RULERS.
First of all, we dont know if this hadeeth is Authentic; as you did not provide us with a reference, as to who authenticated it. And I think you said, it was reported in Hakim, or something like that... So, we dont know who authenticated, or if its even authentic to begin with.
@salafisblockme Continued... And no doubt, YOU ARE BRINGING THIS HADEETH TO USE IT TO ATTACK THE SALAFI IMAMS AND SCHOLARS. But ok, lets assume this hadeeth is autthentic; then this does not in anyway contradict the authentic hadeeth about advising the Rulers in private. Since, this hadeeth, you bought, discourages from FREQUENTING THE GATHERING OF THE RULERS, WHILE THE OTHER HADEETH TALKS ABOUT ADVISING THE RULERS IN PRIVATE [NOT IN PUBLIC]. Otherwise, IF IT WAS ABSOLUTELY IMPERMISSABLE....
@salafisblockme continued..... THEN, WHY WOULD THE NABI SAY: "TAKE THEM BY THE HAND..." IF VISITING THE RULERS WAS ABSOLUTELY HARAM, WHY DID HE SAY: "TAKE THEM BY THEIR HANDS, TO ADVISE THEM????"
The point is, you, neokhalafi2010, leave the Muhkam evidence, of the prohibition of advising the Rulers in public, but advising them in private, WHICH THE SALAFI 'ULAMAH IMPLEMENT, and YOU TRY TO BRING A AMBIGIOUS, GENERAL HADEETH, to insinuate that the Scholars are deviant because they....
@salafisblockme continued.... because they ADVICED THE RULEIRS IN PRIVATE.
MOREOVER, YOU YOURSELF, IGNORE A CLEAR HADEETH, PROHIBITING SPEAKING ILL OF THE RULERS IN PUBLIC. YOU OPPOSE THIS HADEETH AND COME ONTO YOUTUBE, SPEAKING AGAINST THE RULERS IN FRONT OF 100S, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE!
IS THIS NOT EVIDENCE OF DEVIATION???? SO, FEAR ALLAH! AND LEARN THE CORRECT AQEEDAH AND MANHAJ, FROM THE SUNNI, SALAFI IMAMS, STARTING WITH TAWHEED, BEFORE YOU BECOME DESTROYED LIKE THOSE KHAWARIJ!
The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam said: "Expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian peninsula".
First of all, the hadeeth IS ADDRESSING THOSE IN AUTHORITY [AND IT IS NOT ADDRESSING EVERYBODY]. The COMPANIONS DID NOT IMPLEMENT THIS HADEETH BY GOING OUT, INDIVIDUALLY, AND PHYSICALLY EXPELLING THE KUFFAR, AT THE TIME OF ABU BAKR RADI ALLAHU 3NHU, EVEN THOUGHT THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS HADEETH. BECAUSE THEY KNEW, THIS WAS THE..
@salafisblockme continued.... THE RULER'S JOB. IT WAS ACTUALLY, UMAR RADI ALLAHU 3NHU, THE SECOND KHALIF, WHO FINALLY EXPELLED THEM. So this shows that this is carried out by the Ruler, NOT THE COMMON FOLK! Not like the Khawarij dogs, who go around randomly shooting and killing the Kuffar. The Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam said: "Expel them..." NOT KILL THEM!
@neosalafi2010 Proof is, Allah says: O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as AULIYA' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), THEY ARE BUT AULIYA TO ONE ANOTHER. AND IF ANY AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM AS AULIYA, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong¬doers and unjust). (Al-Ma'idah 5:51)
@neosalafi2010 NOW I WANT YOU TO READ THIS CAREFULLY!!!
The first cateogry , ‘Tawwallee’. The basis of it is LOVE OF THE HEART FOR THE KUFFAR, AND [THEIR DEEN], AND ASSISTING THEM TO OVERCOME THE MUSLIMS, WITH THE CONCEALMENT OF HATRED FOR THE MUSLIMS. And this no doubt, [IS KUFR THAT EXPELS ONE FROM THE RELIGEON OF ISLAM].
@neosalafi2010 The ‘Ulamah of Ahlus Sunnah, from the earliest times to the present, wrote concerning these three matters. One of them was ibn taymiyah! Its rather ironic that you should quote Shaikhul Islam on this matter, since He ,rahimahullah, (Surprise surprise!) was one of those who wrote in detail about the issue of tawwalee and muwaalat of the Kuffar!!!! Refer to Majmoo fatawa (1/20) if you’re interested!
@neosalafi2010 You see to the Khawaarij seeking aid or helping the Kuffar is kufr ABSOLUTELY; without making distinction between the who one makes tawwallee and the one who makes muwaalat. Tawwallee is kufr, that expels from the religion and Muwalaat does not expel from the religion but it is sinful. And there is a third matter, which is relevant to this discussion, the issue of seeking aid from the kuffar or employing them; which IS PERMISSABLE.
@neosalafi2010 The matter of seeking aid and assistance from the kuffar, is not as straight forward AND ABSOLUTE and black and white as the misguided, deviant Khawaarj make it out to be. Seeking aid and helping the Kuffar, does NOT NECESSARILY CAUSE SOMEONE TO EXIT ISLAM THAT EASILY. A person who seeks help from the Kuffar or aids them, falls into one of three categories: 1) Those who make Tawwallee with the Kuffar 2) Those who make Muwalaat 3) and those who seek their help and hire them.
@neosalafi2010 None of these Khawaarij are known to have studied under any 3lim. Do you not worry these people may be misguiding you? Tell me how you came to the conclusion, that this guy is an ‘alim’, let alone an ‘imam’ (LOOOL)?
@neosalafi2010 Ask yourself this: I am just a layman; I have little knowledge of the deen. Who determines for me who is knowledgable and who is trustworthy to learn from? How do I know this, awlaki, is qualified to speak in Islamic matters, especially those matter that concern the safety of the Muslims?
@neosalafi2010 continued... Likewise, we say to the filthy Khawarij of today: “you dont have a SINGLE ‘ALIM with you!” This is why you are misguided, because you are ignorant of the religion. If You had Scholars, they would have given you the correct explanation of these ayaat to you. It is because of this fact, the Khawaarij, themselves, turn to unknowns like awlaki, bin Laden, zwahiri and others of their ilk. What makes you think these idiots are qualified to teach you your deen?
@neosalafi2010 Who from the people of knowledge has explained those ayaat in the manner you are doing? You see one of the greatest proofs against the Khawarij, the ones you look upto, is that they DONT HAVE ANY SCHOLARS AMONG THEM. Ibn Abbas radi Allahu ‘anhu said to the Khawarij, when He went to debate with them: “ I dont see a single Sahaba (of the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam) with you” (or words to that effect).
@neosalafi2010 I am guessing you are islam1429hijrah, the one who responded earlier to Rayyan. If you are are indeed islam1492, then I think I know where some of this nonsense is coming from. I’ve checked your profile and you have videos by that misguided kharijite innovator, awlaki; a non-Sholar, who has no Islamic credentials and is not known to have studied with any ‘alim of ahlus sunnah.
@neosalafi2010 LOL This is what you call ‘the truth’???!!!! This is NOT truth, this is FALSEHOOD. I am sorry, brother, but your kalaam closely resembles that of modern day Khawaarij like bin Laaden, zwaahiri and that of that other newly arisen ignorant Kharijite puppy, Anwar al-Awlaki.
@javabeserk The Muslims cannot return to this correct aqeedah, when we have groups and sects like Jamatut tabligh spreading innovations and even Shirk and those upone Takfiri, Kharijite ideology, going around calling for revolution against the Rulers. The Muslims need to be warned against these deviant groups that oppose the Sunnah. RECTIFICATION BEGINS WITH TAWHEED AND WARNING AGAINST SHIRK AND BID'AH not. what you are doing; calling to innovations!
@javabeserk continued.... All manner of sins. This is the state of the Ummah today and Allah is punishing us, by allowing the Muslims to be humiliated. The Muslims will ONLY have GOOD RULERS only when they are united under correct Islamic belief and work righteous deeds (not bid'ah) and keep away from Shirk.
@javabeserk And to the end Ibnul Qayyim says: "And it is NOT FROM THE DIVINE WISDOM THAT THE EVIL-DOERS AND THE SINNERS ARE MADE TO BE RULED OVER BY ANYONE EXCEPT BY ONE WHO IS OF THEIR LIKE..... You see? Good Rulers are GIVEN BY ALLAH, as a result of obedience and true correct worship to Him subhanahu wata 'ala. YOU CANNOT ESTABLISH RULERSHIP, ALLAH GIVES THE RULERSHIP. Therefore, you CANNOT have good rulers, when there are people who commit shirk with Allah, practice bid'ah, dont pray....
@javabeserk continued: "And reflect in His, the most High's wisdom in making the kings of the servants, their leaders and rulers to be THE SAME NATURE AS THE ACTIONS OF THE SERVANTS. Rather, it is as if their actions became manifest in the appearances of their rulers and kings. If they remain upright, then their kings will remain upright, and if they turn away from uprightness, then they the kings too will turn away from uprightness..... TO THE END.
@javabeserk Another thing you mentioned was: "bad rulers and Scholars are signs of the last day". I'll repeat what I stated before: THE RULERS ARE THE REFLECTION OF THEIR PEOPLE. When the Muslims are good, they have good Rulers; when they are bad, they have evil rulers. There any many proofs from the Quran and Sunnah that establish this. In explaining this fact, Ibnul Qayyim said:
@javabeserk This is how Ahlus Sunnah advise their Rulers. In Private NOT in public view! The Sahaba did this, the tabi'een did it like this and those who follow them do this. And this has continued to this day, with the Salafis walillahil hamd! You and your likes have opposed the Rasul sallahu alaihi sallam by bringing the supposed evil of the Rulers in public; when you should be advising those Rulers in private! You are not enjoining good! You are enjoining EVIL!
@javabeserk You ask: "why cant i involve in encouraging d goods & criticising d evils. ur saudi scholars & kings " O JAVA! This is NOT enjoining good! THIS IS EVIL! Our Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasallam said: "Whoever wishes to advise the ruler, THEN LET HIM NOT MENTION IT IN PUBLIC, RATHER LET HIM TAKE THE RULER BY HIS HAND (in private) . So if he listens then that is that, and if not then he has fulfilled that which was upon him." This is how its done, Java!
@javabeserk Rasulullah sallahu 3laihi was salam said:
There will come leaders WHO WILL NOT FOLLOW MY GUIDANCE and WILL NOT FOLLOW MY SUNNAH. There WILL BE AMONGST THEM MEN WHO WILL HAVE THE HEARTS OF DEVILS IN THE BODIES OF HUMANS. He (Hudhaifah) asked, What shall I do, O Messenger of Allah, if I reach that? He replied, YOU SHOULD HEAR AND OBEY the (RULER), even if he flogs your back and takes your wealth, then you should still hear and obey (in the what is good)." (Reported in Sahih Muslim)
@javabeserk The rest of the stuff is laughable. I am not going to bother responding to every single point, but there is one thing You raised which is: "bad rulers & d scholars are among d signs before d day of d judgement. rulers are meant to follow d quran & sunnah. We are created to obey Allah and his messenger so do the scholars and d rulers." WHAT!!!!???? Do not tablighi jamat teach you the hadeeth of the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam? I guess not!!!
@javabeserk Ibn Taymiyah, Shaikhul Islam, stated that if there is a land and the people give the Ruler ba'yah and there are is another land and the people there Ruler ba'yah. Then this is permissable. The Ottomans were not the only Muslim Rulership at the time. There was Mughals in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Morocco had a Ruler, and many others. The Muslims, in the past, have had many Rulers in any given time.
@javabeserk After the death of Shaikhul Islam and Muhammad bin Sa'ud, the Ottomans sent an army to destroy the 'Wahhabi da'wah'. They killed Muslim men, Women, children etc. So who invaded who? Who challenged who's sovereignty? The answer, it was the Ottomans! As for your stupid assertion that why did Muhammad bin Sa'ud establish a state next to the Ottoman empire? NO SCHOLAR, of Ahlus sunnah, has stated that there cant be more than one Muslim land.
@javabeserk Shaikhul Islam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab did not set out to revolt against any Muslims state. His mission was to call to Tawheed and eradicate SHIRK, FIRST AND FOREMOST. Something You Harakiyoon care little about! He made a pact with Muhammad bin Sa'ud to establish Tawhid in the NAJD. With Allah's aid, they were succesful and a state was established. This is in the early part of the 18th century CE.
@javabeserk I think I'll need to give you a brief history lesson because it looks like you need it! The Najd, the region where the early saudi state was founded, was according to Ottoman, European, and arab historical sources, NEVER part of the Ottoman Empire. THIS IS FACT. The Ottoman empire did not cover that region! You don't believe Muslim sources, then look up Western sources and see the map of the Ottoman empire, to see what areas they conquered.
@javabeserk You've made a long and lengthy response. Unfortunately, I dont understand everything You write and besides most of looks like waffle to me anway. I am going to try to respond to you point by point in cha Allah. Fist of all, you keep repeating the same nonsense about Shaikhul Islam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab and Muhammad bin sa'ud seperating from the Ottoman Empire, over and over again. Lets get a few facts straight!
@AbuAbdullahUK You see, or do you not see? WILL THEY RULE BY THE QURAN AND SUNNAH? Rasulullah sallallahu 3laihi wa sallam said there will be leaders who will NOT follow His Sallahu 3laihi wasalam's guidance and will NOT his Sunnah. He called them RULERS. And they should be OBEYED (only in the good), even if they FLOG OUR BACKS AND STEAL OUR WEALTH. Clear now, or will you continue arguing?
@javabeserk Another thing I'd like to raise... I checked your profile and 'ahlus sunnah waljamah' accuses you of being a member of jamatut tabligh. Is this true? If so, why are You involving yourself in politics? Dont the TJs tell people to stay away from politics? If You are indeed a JT, then I'd be more worried about your aqeedah than talking about current affairs. The TJ are a very deviant group, who fabricate ahadeeth and attribute them to our Rasul sallahu 3laihi wa sallam.
@javabeserk Continued... The Rulers of Saudi and Kuwait, wanted to protect their people and land from being conquered and turned into Baathi, comminist states. Is that wrong? You would prefer that they should have let Saddam in and Saudi could have now been another Communist Baathi state? It was either the Americans, or Saddam and his murderous army. They had to choose the lesser of the two evils.
@javabeserk What are You talking about? The Rulers of Saudi and Kuwait brought the Americans in to defend themselves against the aggression of Saddam and his army. This is analogous to somebody hiring a security guard to protect himself and his property. This is permisable. Where did the Saudi ruler and the Scholars state that they want to see Muslims in Iraq die? Indeed, what the American did afterwards, from the sanctions etc. was bad. But how can the Saudi Ruler be blamed for this.
@javabeserk Continued.... Because some idiot, non-scholar told some ignorant youth to commit acts of terror, in the name of 'jihad', when in reality it's nothing but fasad!
You people should fear Allah and shut your mouth! Leave the matters that concern the safety of the Muslims, to those who can best deal with it, the Scholars and the Rulers!
@javabeserk Is what is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, something that concerns the public safety and fear of the Muslims? Yes, of course it is! Then who is the matter to be referred to, if not to the Rulers and the Scholars? Why are the Khawarij and Harakiyeen constantly talking about matters, which THEY CAN DO NOTHING WHATSOEVER ABOUT! Instead we see, everytime they open their diseased mouths, death and destruction. People getting blown up.
@javabeserk Do You not see that Allah said: “When there comes to them some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they make it known (among the people); if only they had referred it to the Messenger or to THOSE CHARGED WITH AUTHORITY AMONG THEM, the proper investigators would have understood it from them (directly). (An-Nisaa:83) Ibn Katheer explained that 'those charged with Authority' are the Rulers and the Scholars.
@javabeserk Continued.... as if pretending, nothing ever happened. Unfortunately, this ideology spread to the west to the ignorant Muslims youth here. You constantly here those who have been poisoned by the Khawarij, talking about this issue, as if THEY CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. This has nothing to do with us. Leave it to the Rulers and Scholars!
@AbuAbdullahUK indeed. d saudis citizens so are d other kingships & dictators of the middle easts' were lullibied by good life and wealth Allah's bestowed on their land. Historically, d Saudis and all d kingship dictators of d middle easts were also harakiyeen & political activists against d muslims central govt of d uthmaniah yet they did call themselves like ones they blame on today.e.g d Saud used abd Wahab & d british support to make themselves rulers on hijaz. no? .how ironic
@javabeserk I dont understand everything You've written above. You need to explain what You mean in the first sentences. As for the Saudis living in luxury.... So? You're point being? Does luxurious living make a Kafir? Does it make it permisable to revolt against them? The Second part, You accusing Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab and Aale Saud of revolting against the Ottoman state is laughable and shows you dont know much about muslim history.
@javabeserk The Hijaaz was never part of the Ottoman empire FACT! The Ottoman empire only covered madina, Makkah, 9atar, what is now UAE, parts of Oman and Yemen. This is well known to all who know about Ottoman history. Imam ibn Abdul Wahhab never invaded those parts under Ottoman rule. In fact, He himself stated in His books, that it is forbidden to revolt against the Muslim Rulers! It seems You have been misled by malicious Sufi propaganda!
@javabeserk The British DID NOT SUPPORT THE so-called Wahhabis. You need to get your facts straight! I advise You to read about the da'wah of Shaikhul Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab from his own books and about his da'wah from RELIABLE contemporary sources and what other Scholars, like Imam Shawkanee rahimahullah, had to say about him.
@javabeserk No! He is not 'defending the King of saudi', just for the sake of defending. He is defending the Sunnah! The ones who have been obsessed with this issue, since the 90s, have been the Khawarij and the harakiyeen, political activists, who are upon Kharijite thought. Their agenda is to persuade the Muslim masses to revolt against their Rulers (Khawarij ideology). But walillahil hamd these Harakiyeen were refuted and exposed by the Salafi Imams and now they have gone quite.
and in no way is this justified islamicly, remember what allah (swt) says in Surah Maida O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliyâ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliyâ), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust). (51)
@islam1429hijrah Continued... Therefore, even for arguments sake, if we say they were mistaken for bringing the Americans in, then this was an Ijtihaad. The Scholars and the Rulers made Ijtihaad. They get two rewards for getting it right, or one if they are wrong. But nonetheless, they are rewarded, even if mistaken! Lastly, its not from the Sunnah, to criticise the Muslim Rulers in public. The Sunnah is to advice them in private and make du'a for them.
@Rayyan1981 - The saudi rulers have used the assistance of non muslim crusading troops to kill muslims. The prophet (saw) have warned us about the scholars who run to the gates of the rulers. Ibn Abbas (ra) reported that the Prophet (saw) said, "Whoever lives in the desert becomes rough (harsh), whoso follows the game (hunt) becomes careless, and whoso comes to the ruler falls into Fitna." [Abu Dawood and Tirmidhi]Â
@Rayyan1981 - must be expelled from this Peninsula. Furthermore, hiring disbelieving men and women is very dangerous for the Muslims, their faith, their behaviour and the upbringing of their children. Therefore, such must be prevented in obedience to Allaah, the Glorified, and His Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), and to prevent a source of evil and immorality Shaykh Ibn Baaz Fataawa al-Mar.ah Published: 18 October 1999.Subhanallah 9 years after the fatwa changes.
@Rayyan1981 - I quote again from Surah Maida O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliyâ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliyâ), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust). (51)
Alhumdulliah, how is possible for the sheikh to justify allowing 500,000 crusading troops! (Not non-combatants) to attack a muslim state, even if we agree with their arguement that they were used for defence, why couldnt they ask a muslim state for his assistance im sure they would have been ever accomodating, In the 1st gulf war america used the saudi state as a base to attack the muslims of iraq and many muslims died not just iraqi troops, the blood of those killed is on the saudi ulama
@islam1429hijrah The Ruler was justified in bringing in those troops in repelling Saddam Hussain and his army. And it is permissable, to ask for assistance from the non-Muslims without having wala to them. The Iraqi army, at the time, was one of the most powerful, experienced, battle-hardened, arab army at the time. There was no way Saudi could have pushed them back without assistance. Saddam attacked Kuwait and he would have attacked Saudi.
@makhan101 wow its been a whole month since a khawariji left a foolish comment congrats ! whoo, i was starting to think you guys actually was coming around to the haqq ! guess im wrong ! quote "go and make sajood to ur rabb fahd and abdullah and america. death to u munaf..." why would we do such a thing ?may allah give you ahkle ....now hmmmm should i block you ?.........................naam!
@makhan101 May Allah cause the Kharijite da'wah of bin Laden and other of his ilk to fail and may Allah keep the Muslims, The Rulers and the ruled, safe from the evil of the Khawaarij. May Allah return the majority of the Muslims to the true and correct Salafi, Sunni Aqeedah. May Allah guide the above person above, who is upon the manhaj of the Khawarij, for curse the Salafis. Know this, whether you know it or not, You are the in actuality cursing ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah.
@makhan101 Continued..... You Khawarij are upon a USELESS, DEAD da'wah. You will never succeed; history testifies to the fact, that you Khawarij have never succeeded in establishing an Islamic state. Why is that? Because you oppose the shar'eeah and yet, claim to call for the establishment of the shar'eeah!
@makhan101 Continued... Understand this, You Khawarij!!! THE RULERS ARE MERELY A REFPLECTION OF THE PEOPLE. If the people are evil, the Rulers will be likewise. If the people are good, so will the rulers be good. This the is THE SUNNAH in Allah's creation! Therefore, the Muslim Rulers today are upon, what they are upon, because of their people! Not because of America, not because of the UK, not because of this and that one! ITS US, THE MUSLIMS, WE ARE TO BLAME - FOR OUR HUMILIATION!
@makhan101 Continued... You expect the Muslim Rulers to rule by what Allah has revealed, and so do we (!), yet THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MUSLIMS ARE UPON DEVIATED AQEEDAH. A LARGE NUMBER, CALL UPON OTHER THAN ALLAH. THIS IS SHIRK (!), THE GREATEST SIN IN THE SIGHT OF ALLAH. You ignore this and say you want the sharee'ah??????!!!!!!
@makhan101 Continued... WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT? THE RIGHTS OF ALLAH, OR THE RIGHTS OF MANKIND? PEOPLE ARE VIOLATING THE RIGHTS OF ALLAH, BY COMMITING SHIRK, WORSHIPPING THE SAINTS IN THEIR GRAVES ETC ETC. AND YET, YOU EXPECT ALLAH TO REWARD US BY GIVING US AN ISLAMIC STATE!!!???
@pureaccuracy gargbage ? hmm khatamahlahu alaa qulbihiim wa alaa samihim wa alaa absarihiim ..
cdwillingboro 11 months ago
dear ikhwaan, can someone tell me why we cannot listen to sheikh feiz?
Jazaakumullahu khairan,
DrakyGordon 11 months ago
@DrakyGordon
He believes that we are humiliated not because of Shirk and Bid'ah, but the following: quote: In our times, it is the fear of death... the fear of sacrificing your finger, your toe, a drop of blood... that is more honourable than anything else. We are the most humiliated nation on the face of this earth, there is no doubt. Why? Because martyrdom to us is not appealing, it's not as appealing to us as it was to those ancestors, the great warriors.
cdwillingboro 11 months ago
@DrakyGordon quote: We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam... Teach them this: there is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid. Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom. ..lets remember that the prophet taught tawheed first for 13 years in mecca before the first war. any salafee should know that tawheed is the foundation to everything in life from raising children to ridding ourselves of harms
cdwillingboro 11 months ago
@DrakyGordon these statements are from 2003 lectures ..so he may have retracted these statements but i am not aware of it . he was also asked to leave Australia some time ago due to his militant statements .. we have so many duaat to take from ..in this case he is very questionable ..may allah bring about further clarity ..but for now we should avoid doubt able matters.
cdwillingboro 11 months ago
Mash'allah may Allah reward you for posting this and may Allah reward and increase the level of Malik Abdullah from Saudi Arabia and increase him him in Khair. as Imaam Barbahari(d3.29) said a sign that a person is person of sunnah is that he makes Du'aa for the muslim rulers & how u know a person is from Ahl-ul Bid'ah is he makes Du'aa Against the muslim ruler (Sharh us-Sunnah) may Allah increase them & You in good aameen
NasirAlHanbali 1 year ago
@NasirAlHanbali Jazak Allahu khayr. It's a shame people fail to understand this. This is a country, perhaps the only one in the world, that actually calls to Tawheed and forbids Shirk, as government policy and implements shari'ah, yet the Khawaarij want to destroy this land and its rulers!? Why not make du'a for them and ask Allah to correct their mistakes. Whatever happened to helping the Muslim lands instead of spreading destruction and chaos?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@NasirAlHanbali It's like Shaykh Luhaydan, hafidhaullah, once remarked (paraphrasing), "we dont see the Kuffar wanting to overthrow their rulers and destroy their countries, why do many muslims want to do this? " May Allah aid the Salafis to spread the Sunnah far and wide ameen. Wallah, the Muslims need to wake up and realise the TRUTH, as Allah said: "Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change what is within themselves". And NOT BY OVERTHROWING RULERS (good or bad)!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
they are kuffar due to sins which necessitate shirk and kufr not just merely sins like consuming alcohol, fornication etc. that is the aqeedah of the khawarij
MUWAHIDEEN 1 year ago
Jazakallahu Khair, Brilliant lecture Maa sha'Allaah, Akhi, just delete these Khawarijis comments, and set comments to approval ONLY.
muslimallday 1 year ago
@muslimallday Good advice. By setting comments on approval only, you'd avoid having to come back and delete comments every other day. You wont have to waste your valuable time on these filthy Khawarij scum that have nothing better to do, except cause trouble and give the noble deen of Islam a bad name Allahu musta'an.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
wonder how much saudi arabia are paying him.. thank allah this is sect saudi salafi is a small sect in this ummah
ramp31 1 year ago
fuck saudi rulers...they are fucking agents and you are liar to lure ppl into thinking this would be against Fat ass saudi agents of anglos...while you are kissing their filthy ass!
leotakesleo 1 year ago
this is just against the ummah, and dividing the muslims,this is just another example of kuffaar and big $bucks to this man , he sound like more dangerous then those he blaming ,may allaah guide u ameen
MrIslaam 1 year ago
MashaAllah...your own comment is enough to explain your falsehood and how ignorant you guys are: "((((((((ATT ENTION ))))))))ALL OF YOU FILTHY KHAWARIJI THAT LIKE TO LEAVE STUPID COMMENTS AND DISPLAY YOUR STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE ,DONT WAIST YOUR TIME ! BECAUSE I WILL ERASE AND BLOCK YOU! "
IslamicCyber1 1 year ago
@IslamicCyber1 "number one its not a comment"..its my video description. number 2 its a true statement..a khawariji is a horrible thing to be..correct? the khwarij killed a relative of the prophet (salalahu alaihi wa selam )right? the khawarij were one of the first to go astray from the teachings of the religion .. there methodology has influenced many today and it has dishonored our religion ...so is the title filthy khawariji"enough to explain my falsehood" as you stated?the burden is upon you
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro
yeah whatever it is, and whoever the khwarij are (debatable - i dont accept fatawa of scholars who cant think independently), your description tells that you are ignorant
IslamicCyber1 1 year ago
@IslamicCyber1 You say that the application of the word khawariji is debatable? So then why are you offended by my description? Lol did I call you a khawariji? Lol no but you must think you are a khawariji because you are offended...or maybe you were called a khawariji a few times.. Allahuilum .. Your point ? :) the burden of making sense is now upon you..
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro
yes i know that they call my revolutionary thoughts as khariji and i ask them how dare can they say so when they are not elligible to ... between what ever it is you cant just delete and block other users.. that was the point
IslamicCyber1 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro Couldn't have put it better myself, Akhi, wa jazak Allahu khayr. You have to be a compound ignorant, or worse, a fool, not to see the harms the Khawaarij have bought upon the Ummah. The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasallam said, "They are the worst of Allaah’s creation under the sky.” and this guy wants to know what's wrong with them??!! LOL. These Khawarij have done untold damage to the Muslims and they have ruined the image of Islam in front of the Non-Muslims! This isn't evil?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro continued... Here in England, the foolish, criminal activities of the Khawaarij gave rise to the EDL, a racist anti-Islamic movement. This movement went around cities and towns cursing and even attacking any Muslims they found! Now, if you go outside, in London, and the Kuffar see you with a beard, thobe, they give you dirty looks, as if they're thinking in their minds, this guys a terrorist, he hates us etc. Almost everywhere you get this. All because of the Khawaarij!!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro Wallahi thumma wallahi, if the Muslims called to Muslim, the way our Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam did, the Kuffar would have no reason to hate us, even if there were some Muslims who were bad, or did evil things. Look at what Abu Sufyaan radi Allahu 3nhu said when Heraclius, the Roman Emperor, enquired about the da'wah of the Prophet. Abu Sufyan replied...
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro Abu Sufyan said,"'He tells us to worship Allaah and Allaah alone and not to worship anything along with Him, and to renounce all that our ancestors had said. He orders us to pray, to speak the truth, to be chaste and to keep good relations with our Kith and kin.' Similarly, when the Ethiopian King, the Negus, enquired about Islam, the Sahabi Ja'far radi Allahu 3nhu replied, "He called us to the unity of God, and taught us not to associate any other being with him....
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro He forbade us the worship of idols which we and our fathers used to worship. He commanded us always to speak the truth, to remain true to our trust, to love the relatives and to be good neighbors. He commanded us to honor our promises, to be kind to our relations, to cease all forbidden acts, to abstain from bloodshed and to avoid obstinacies and false witness." Now, Brothers and Sisters, do you see how these two Sa7aba described the Prophet's daw'ah?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro if You didn't, then go back and read again. Both those Sa7aba said that the da'wah of the Prophet was to START OFF WITH CALLING THE PEOPLE TO THE WORSHIP OF ALLAH ALONE (MEANING, TAWHEED), to call to praying the salah, to speak the truth, honour promises, be good to parents etc etc. Have you noticed this? Now ponder, if the Muslims were calling to all of this and acted upon what they called to, do You think the Kuffar would hate us for the reasons they do now?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro continued... What Abu Sufyaan (who was a mushrik at the time) described about the daw'ah of the Prophet, was what the Prophet was actually calling the people to. This is what the NON-MUSLIMS KNEW ISLAM TO BE: Worshipping Allah alone, not worshipping idols, being truthful, keep ties of kinship etc. FIND ME A KAFIR TODAY, WHO WOULD SAY THE SAME THINGS ABOUT ISLAM? HARDLY ANY, i WOULD SAY! You ask an average Kafir/Muslim today, " hey, what was the da'wah of the Prophet?"
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro continued.... Most likely, they would reply, "They want to establish sharee'ah, take over out country kill and terrorise non-musims, etc.. Why? Because this is what the Khawaarij call to! And the Kuffar think, what the Khawarij call to is ISLAM! Go back to the what those Sa7aba said about the da'wah of the Prophet, do you find any mention of calling to an Islamic state, terrorism etc. No, of course not! This is the image of Islam the Kuffar have, when they think about Islam
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro The only ones who are calling to Islam, the way the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi sallam did, are the Salafis alhamdolillah. If the Salafis succeed in getting the (TRUE) message of Islam to these non-Muslims, things will change in cha Allah. Which kafir will have problems with a religion that calls to worshipping God Alone, or speaking the truth, being good to parents?!! This is what we should be calling to, but, unfortunately, nowadays, due to the Khawarij its all about politics 24/7
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro contiued... This Ruler this, that Ruler that and oh look at what the Americans are doing!! No! This is not da'wah, THIS IS NOT THE DA'WAH OF RASULULLAH SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM!!!! May Allah guide the Muslims back to the correct methodology of da'wah, the da'wah of the Prophets AMEEN!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro Oh, I just noticed, this guy listens to Feiz, khalid Y (the Khawaarij). Is it any wonder He is crying about us calling his chums Khawaarij lol? May Allah guide him or protect the Muslims from him and his likes. AMEEN. Wallah, the Muslims need to wake up and return back to the pure Islam, that which the Salafis call to, before its too late. These Khawaarij bring nothing but destruction wa la 7awla wala 9uwata illah billah!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Also, once again, go to the website: AQIDAH(DOT)COM, and read the SERIES OF articles: THE SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH. Try to read it from beginning to end, part one to part 4 in cha Allah. You will gain a much better understanding than what I’ve written here.
With that, I'll end here, for now lol
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Lastly, please forgive me for making you read such a lengthy response. But I am only doing this for your benefit and mines in cha Allah. Please feel free to ask me or cdwillingbro any questions or clarifications you may have. You can write here or PM us in cha Allah.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... What are it’s categories and how many types are there? What is innovation in the religion and how does something become and innovation? Etc etc. All this, you will find in the links I’ve given you. You can go to my Channel and click on my recommended websites.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 I strongly advice you to concentrate on learning the basics of the religion, especially Tawheed: singling out Allah with ALL WORSHIP. What does this mean? What are it’s categories, its conditions etc. What is the opposite of Tawheed, SHIRK, the greatest sin Islam.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 I hope you understand now, why some of us seem harsh with other Muslims who call to and defend innovation.
As for Yourself, I urge you to go and check out those links I’ve already given you. Those websites are AUTHENTIC and they contain knowledge of the religion which has taken and translated from the words of the orthodox, Sunni Scholars.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... We don’t unite with just anybody, even with some Muslims, who are deviated and call to innovation. Allah and His Messenger command us To STAY AWAY FROM MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE AND CALL TO INNOVATION. We have been commanded to DISTINGUISH OURSELVES AND THE ORTHODOX, SUNNI BELIEF FROM THE INCORRECT BELEIFS AND PRACTICES OF DEVIANT MUSLIMS.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 But what we don’t do, dear Brother, is GET ALL THE MUSLIMS TOGETHER, REGARDLESS OF THEIR BELIEFS AND ACTIONS, THE INNOVATING MUSLIM, AND THE ORTHODOX ONES, AND LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SHOWING UNITY. This in reality, is NOT UNITY, THIS IS DECEIVING OURSELVES. And in fact, this is haraam.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 As for the giving da’wah to the Non-Muslims and the ordinary average Muslim (who does not call to innovation), then no doubt YOU ARE RIGHT. WE MUST BE KIND AND GENTLE WITH THEM AND CALL THEM TO ISLAM WITH GOOD MANNERISM AND THIS IS THE BEST FORM OF DA’WAH.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... The orthodox, sunni scholars who came afterwards did it to, and this has continued to this day. AND THIS REFUTING AND WARNNING AGAINST INNOVATION AND ITS PEOPLE (IS PART OF STRIVING TO UNIFY THE MUSLIMS).
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 So what am I trying to get at here? I am showing you, that REFUTING THOSE MUSLIMS WHO CALL TO INNOVATION IS NOT A BAD THING. IN ACTUALITY, IT’S A FORM OF WORSHIP, A JIHAD, IN ISLAM. The Prophet sallallahu 3laihi salam did it and commanded it be done, and His Companions radi Allahu 3nhom did it to.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 The answer: IT WAS INNOVATION IN THE RELIGION. They Christians and the Jews also innovated into their religion and changed and distorted and altered the beliefs and they have split into many different sects and groups and to this day, they are split. However, with the final message of Islam, Allah has promised to protect it from alteration walillahil hamd;
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Before the arrival of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu 3laihi wasalam, how did the Christians and Jews arrive where they are now? I mean, how did they depart from the original message of Jesus and Moses alaihomos salam, and change the original message?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 The Scholars who came afterwards, also continued this practice of warning against innovation and it’s people. There are 100s, if not 1000s, of books written refuting innovation and those who call to it.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 After the Prophet passed away, the companions of the Prophets also severely warned against innovation AND (IT’S PEOPLE). When the sects of innovation appeared, THEY WARNED AND REFUTED THEM AND DISTANCED THEMSELVES AWAY FROM THOSE DEVIANT MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE INTO THE RELIGION. Why is this necessary? Firstly, to protect the religion from alteration and corruption and secondly, to protect the Muslims from the sin of innovation and to PREVENT SPLITS AMONG THE MUSLIMS FROM OCCURING.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) also warned against the People of Innovation, from befriending, supporting or taking from them saying: "Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon him is the curse of Allaah, His Angels and the whole of mankind." (Bukhari)
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 He sallallahu 3laihi wasalam also called another group of deviant Muslims, the Qadariya, “the fire-worshippers of this Ummah”. He warned the general Muslims to stay away from them and not to visit them when they are sick.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 HE SALLLALLAHU 3LAIHI SALAM TOLD US, THAT THESE KHAWARIJ WILL FIGHT AGAINST THE MUSLIMS AND SHED OUR BLOOD AND LEAVE THE POLYTHEISTS... AND HE TOLD US MANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT THEM. HE ALSO PRAISED THOSE MUSLIM RULERS WHO FIGHT AND KILL THESE KHAWARIJ. And these Khawarij, they are not Kuffar, they ARE MUSLIMS!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 The Prophet sallallahu 3laihi wasalam CALLED A GROUP OF DEVIANT MUSLIMS, YES MUSLIMS, “DOGS OF THE HELLFIRE”. THIS IS BECAUSE, THESE MUSLIMS DECLARE OTHER MUSLIMS TO BE KUFFAR ON ACCOUNT OF MAJOR SINS (I’ve already alluded to this sect earlier). THIS SECT IS KNOWN IN ISLAM AS ‘THE KHAWARIJ’.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 And as part of this effort to reunify the Muslims, we have to PURIFY THE REILGION FROM ALL THE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES THAT ARE ALIEN TO IT and THIS INCLUDES WARNING THE MUSLIMS AGAINST THOSE DEVIANT MUSLIMS WHO INNOVATE INTO THE RELIGION AND REFUTING THESE FALSE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES, SO THAT THE MUSLIMS WILL STAY AWAY FROM IT.
Where did I get this from? This is not from me, but what the Prophet sallallahu 3laihi wasalam and Companions radi Allahu 3nhom DID AND COMMANDED US TO DO.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 And I could go on with other Muslim sects, but let’s just stop here..
The point is, DISUNITY WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE MUSLIMS INNOVATING INTO THE RELIGION AND BRINGING ABOUT THEIR OWN DISUNITY. For us, now to become united again, we must return back to the SAME BELIEF AND METHODOLOGY that THE PROPHET AND HIS COMPANIONS were upon, STARTING WITH THE BELIEF IN ALLAH FIRST, THE TAWHEED OF ALLAH.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... There are even Muslims who belief it is good to go to the graves of the dead, righteous people and pray to them, invoking them for help, when they should be invoking and praying to Allah, and to ALLAH ALONE. Or they believe in amulets and some of these Muslims go to soothsayers, fortune-tellers. THIS IS ALL SHIRK (!); THE GREATEST SIN IN ISLAM, THE VERY THING (ALL) THE PROPHETS CAME TO ERADICATE. Yet, we have a LARGE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS WHO COMMIT THIS SHIRK!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED.... This is an innovation in the religion and opposes what our Prophet alaihis salam said about obeying the Rulers (only in the good) and not revolting against them and not declaring the sinning Muslims to be a Kafir. And most important of all, THE PROPHET STARTED WITH TAWHEED NOT RULERSHIP. HE CALLED THE PEOPLE TO WORSHIP ALLAH (ALONE) AND TO ABANDON THE WORSHIP OF OTHERS BESIDES ALLAH.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 There are yet other Muslims, the ones Abu Khadeejah is refuting in the video, who believe that it is permissible to revolt against the Muslim Rulers and they declare Muslims to be Kuffar on account of them commiting major sins and they exaggerate the importance of having an Islamic state, to the point where they claim that establishing the Islamic states is the biggest fard.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 CONTINUED...... These ones, have opposed the correct, orthodox belief in Islam which states that: we believe in the attributes of Allah as they have come, with its apparent meaning – without resembling Him to the creation; and they have innovated new ways of believing in the names and attributes of Allah and therefore, they have SPLIT AWAY FROM THE UNITED BODY.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 There are other Muslims, who deny and distort the names and attributes of Allah. So for example, some of them, when they come across an ayah in the quran or hadeeth which talks about Allah’s attributes, for instance, Allah’s Hands, they say ‘no Allah does not have a hand, in actuality this means power not hand’.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 So we have muslims nowadays, who celebrate the birthday of the Prophet, something which WAS NOT DONE BY THE PROPHET ALAIHISALAM OR HIS COMPANIONS, and believe they are doing good when in fact they have committed A MAJOR SIN. They have opposed Allah and His Messenger by innovating an act of worship that is alien to the religion of Islam AND AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE SPLIT AWAY from the united body of Muslims.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 However, dear Brother, we must first understand: what is it that HAS CAUSED us to be DISUNITED IN THE FIRST PLACE? The answer is, and I reiterate,( INNOVATIONS IN THE RELIGION). When you have Muslims who innovate new beliefs and actions (of worship) into our religion, then (THIS RESULTS IN DISUNITY); AND ALLAH PUNISHES THE MUSLIMS, BY ALLOWING THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM TO OVERPOWER THEM.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Dear Brother, yes, we, the muslims, need to UNITE. There is no doubt about the fact, that DISUNITY IS EVIL; and it is disunity that has severely weakened the Muslims and caused us to be humiliated by the enemies of Islam.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Wa Alaikumus salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
And Ramadan Mubarak! Thank you and jazak Allahu khayran, Brother, for the beautiful du’a. AMEEN!
Bro, I am sorry but this is going to be a lengthy answer to some of the things you raised. I ask You to be patient and try to read what I am going to write in cha Allah.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@AbuAbdullahUK CONTINUED.... however, the Muslims will also split, due to innovations, but Allah has promised to protect the original message and has commanded us, the Muslims, to stick to the original belief and acts of worship, found in the Quran and Sunnah and consensus of the Companions, and stay away from innovations and its callers.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Sorry Brother, I made a mistake. The website to go to for a detailed explanation of the causes of splitting and how unite is AQIDAH(DOT)COM and read the 4 part series of articles: SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 You can find those websites on my Youtube channel. Scroll down to my recommended websites and the list of links.
In cha Allah I hope this helps. Feel free to ask as many questions as you wish, either here or via PM.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Most IMPORTANTLY, as a new Muslim, I urge you to study the basics of the Islamic belief, Tawhid, Shirk, Sunnah, Bidah etc etc. Go to the website: SPUBS(DOT)COM – and then where it says: I am a Muslim and wish to learn the basics..., click on [enter here] and read as much of the articles you can find there.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 For a more detailed explanation of the cause of splitting among the Muslims and how to bring back unity, go to the website: MANHAJ(DOT)COM –and then read three 4 part series of articles called: SPLITTING OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Therefore, for the MuslimS to be united AGAIN, AND FOR THEM TO BE FROM THAT SAVED SECT (mentioned in above), they must return back to the ORIGINAL, PURE, PRISTINE Islam, the Quran and Sunnah, as UNDERSTOOD by the COMPANIONS AND DISCIPLES OF THE PROPHET; STARTING WITH [TAWHID] FIRST – I URGE YOU TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THIS WORD MEANS.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 As Brother cdwillingbro mentioned, Our Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam said the Muslims will split into 73 sects, 72 WILL GO TO THE HELLFIRE, [AS PUNISHMENT FOR INNOVATING INTO THE RELIGEON AND SPLITTING] WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 1 SECT [WHICH WILL BE SAVED, BECAUSE ITS ADHERENTS STUCK RIGIDLY TO ISLAM, FREE OF INNOVATION].
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Innovations (in the religion) are those BELIEFS AND ACTIONS which are NEWLY INTRODUCED into the religion, with which nearness to Allah is sought [BUT NOT] BEING SUPPORTED BY ANY AUTHENTIC PROOF FROM ISLAM – NEITHER IN ITS FOUNDATIONS/MANNER IN WHICH IT IS PERFORMED.”
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 Wa Alaikumus Salam wa Rahmatullahi Barakatuhu
Dear Brother,
In a nutshell: there are many reasons why the Muslims are split. The MAIN CAUSE for the Muslims splitting into opposing groups and sects is INNOVATIONS (in the religion).
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@fbeg84 wa alaikym asalaam wa rahmahtulahi wa barkatuhu .welcome to this beautiful religion ..ulhamdulilah..when i took shahadah it took me about 2years to realize there was division..at the end of the day i had to realize that someone has to be correct in their arguments...most of the people that you see on this page are from a group of muslims called the khawariji ..they ignore the ahadeeth and iyats to justify their terror and oppression ..and they have disgraced our pure religion ..
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@cdwillingboro despite the fact that we argue it should still be know that we are still all muslim inshallah ...however sometimes argumentation has to be established to present the truth..the fact is our prophet (saws)said we would split into 73 sects and all would be in the fire exept 1.and that 1 sect are those that are upon what the salaf were upon..terror and oppression was not the call of islam ..tawheed is the call...this is also the means to solving our problems.
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@fbeg84 the problem is many like to ignore tawheed when they want to justify killing and suicide bombing and all the other forms of terror as if to say its not needed in their case..but they fail to realize that tawheed is the way to pleasing allah.. by pleasing allah we will see allah doing things to please us.. this means many of the situations that are upon the muslims would vanish ..but instead of applying the basics and being patient they go out and disgrace our religion..
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@salafisblockme You will see, that your understanding is FALSE and the correct understanding of that hadeeth is with AHLUS-SUNNAH, Salafiyoon, those who understand the Kitab and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Salaf.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Another issue I need to talk about, is the matter OF EXPELLING THE KUFFAR FROM THE ARABIAN PENINSULA. You’ve brought the same KHARIJITE GARBAGE, devoid of knowledge any understanding. In cha Allah I will bring the speech of the ‘Ulamah, to EXPLAIN the hadeeth about expelling the Kuffar from the Arabian peninsula.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme The Saudi state, in the Gulf war, HIRED THE AMERICANS TO REPEL THE INVADING ARMY OF Saddam Hussain, who at the time was a Kafir, Communist and no doubt, would have wanted to establish a Baathi, Communist state over the Arabian peninsula, had he been allowed to conquer Saudi and Kuwait. THIS IS PERMISSABLE.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme One of the evidences used by the ‘Ulamah is, when the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam hired 'Abdullaah bin Urayqit al-Laythee, a mushrik, who was highly a experienced tracker, to guide Him sallallahu 3laihi wasalam to Madinah, while He was chased by the Mushrikeen of Makkah.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme The Saudi states action does not fall into either categories, Tawwallee or Muwaalat. They fall into the third category, THE ACT OF SEEKING AID FROM THE KUFFAR BY HIRING THEM. THE PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE DEEM THIS PERMISSABLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme However, that ayah revealed concerning Hatib radi Allahu 3nhu, is general for all those who commit Muwaalat with the Kuffar; they are sinning NOT EXITING ISLAM, AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT! Imam Qutubee, Abu Bakr ibn al-arabee (not the heretical sufee), from the salaf, have also explained these categories of assisting the kuffar. Refer to them, if You care!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme And as for your statement, THE HADEETH STATES THE RASUL SALLALLHU 3LAIHI WASALAM STATED ALLAH FORGAVE HIM BECAUSE HE FOUGHT IN BADR.
YES, BUT HE WAS FORGIVEN FOR HIS ACT OF MUWAALAT TO THE KUFAAR [WHICH IS AN ACT OF SIN, HARAM] NOT KUFR THAT EXPELS FROM THE RELIGION, AS YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE. TAWWALLEE EXPELS FROM THE RELIGEON (see earlier posts), MUWAALAT DOESN’T.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Amr , a sub-narrator of this hadeeth, said: ‘this verse was revealed about him (Hatib): “O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies as your friends or protectors.” (60.1). The people of knowledge explained that, Allah addressed them with the name of Iman (O you who believe), and the one who shows love to the Kuffar, and aided or assisted them for the sake of the dunya, NOT DUE TO DOUBTING IN THE DEEN ITSELF.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued... “As for al-Muwaalat, then it is co-operating and dissimulation, flattery towards the Kuffar for the sake of a worldy objective, WITHOUT CONCEALING AN INTENTION OF KUFR AND APOSTACY FROM ISLAM (refer to the explanation of Tawwallee in my earlier posts). Such as what occurred from Hatib bin Abee Balta’ah radi Allahu 3nhu, when He wrote to the quraish informing them of the journey of the Messenger sallallahu 3laihi wasalam.” (Majmoo’ al-Fatwaa 1/20).
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Now, the salaf they explained the issue of tawwallee and Muwaalat in detail, INCLUDING THE STORY OF HATIB BIN BALTA’AH. They differentiated between the one who makes tawwallee and the one how makes muwaalat with the Kuffar. Shaykhul Islam ibn Taymiyah, yes, ibn Taymiyah said¸when talking about muwaalat:
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme We dont go to the Quran and Sunnah, like you people, and start picking out rulings; taking one part of the book and ignoring the rest!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme You see, WE, UNLIKE YOU, TAKE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH, THE WAY THE EARLY SALAF UNDERSTOOD IT, and those Scholars who came later and are UPON THIS WAY. Why is this? Because, Allah and His Messenger have ordered us with this and WHOEVER FOLLOWS A WAY OTHER THAN THE WAY OF THE SALAF, THEN HE WILL BECOME MISGUIDED, ASTRAY, A DEVIANT!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Subhan Allah, you are one deluded and stubborn individual! But then again, what can you expect from somebody who takes his deen from khawaarij like awlaki and 'ali at-tamimee! Once again, you have exposed your ignorance of the deen.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 One of the evidences used by the ‘Ulamah is, when the Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam hired 'Abdullaah bin Urayqit al-Laythee, a mushrik, who was highly experienced tracker, to guide Him sallallahu 3laihi wasalam to Madinah, while He was chased by the Mushrikeen of Makkah. THIS IS THE CATEGORY WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE. THE SAUDI STATE HIRED THE AMERICANS, TO REPEL THE AGGRESSION OF SADDAM’S INVADING, COMMUNIST ARMY. Hence, THIS IS PERMISSABLE!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 Another proof, is the saying of Allah: “O you who believe, do not take my enemy and your enemy as friends.” Allah addressed them with: ‘O you who believe....’, indicating that they are still believers.
The third matter is seeking aid from the Kuffar and hiring them. THE PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE DEEM THIS PERMISSABLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 The proof is the story of the Sahabi haatib bin abi balta’ah radi Allahu 3nhu, who tried to inform some mushrikeen in Makkah about some of the plans and affairs of the Rasul sallahu 3laihi wasalam. When He was confronted, He said He only did this as a favour to the mushrikeen so that they dont hurt His own relatives in Makkah or in exchange for not harming them.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 The second category is Muwalaat, which is having loyalty in one’s actions, or outwardly aiding the Kuffar, but WITHOUT CONCEALING THE KUFR OF TAWWALLEE (see above), and which is DONE FOR A WORDLY GOAL OR TO AVERT HARM, and is not for the sake of religion. [THIS IS HARAM BUT NOT KUFR].
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 The above ayah talks about TAWWALLEE – aiding the kuffar, while having LOVE FOR THEIR DEEN and this expels the doer from the religion. NOT the way YOU EXPLAINED IT! PROVE TO ME THAT THE KING OF SA’UDI AND SHAIKH IBN BAAZ MADE TAWWAALEE TO THE AMERICANS?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@AbuAbdullahUK @AbuAbdullahUK - Subhanallah why has my comments been removed because it expose your deviant beliefs of supporting and assisting the modern day crusaders of today. You forgot to mention the brothers and sisters what the prophet (saw) response was to his actions. The sahabi mentioned earlier who disclosed the secrets to the mushrikeen attend badr and you know the virtues of sahaba that fought in badr. The prophet said it is as if they can do anything and Allah has forgiven them
salafisblockme 1 year ago
@salafisblockme ok another piece of evidence mentioned by our Salafi Brother and da'ee, Abu Khadeejah, for the PERMISSIBILITY OF HIRING THE KUFFAR WHEN THERE IS A NECESSITY, is the hadeeth where the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam mentioned that before the coming of the Dajjal, THAT THE BELIEVERS [WILL UNITE] WITH THE CHRISTIANS AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY, IN A UNITED ARMY WILL DEFEAT THE COMMON ENEMY.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam called the Muslims who participated in this battle: "THEY WILL BE THE BEST OF THE BELIEVERS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ON THAT DAY...." Up until the end of the hadeeth. So here, we have the best of the Muslims, cooperating with A [CHRISTIAN ARMY], NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL, O NEOSALAFI2010, BUT AN ARMY! SO DONT TRY TO USE THE NUMBERS GAME! The Brother, Abu Khadeejah, also mentioned, that the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam sought the aid of the....
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued.... of the Mushrikeen, in the Battle of Hunayn (on part 2 of the lecture). There are many other evidences, O neokhalafi, seek it from the Salafi 'Ulamah if you want the TRUTH!.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme "It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ'id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)];
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued: and others not entirely clear. SO AS FOR THOSE IN WHOSE HEARTS THERE IS A DEVIATION (from the truth) THEY FOLLOW THAT WHICH IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR THEREOF, SEELING AL-FITNAH (polytheism and trials, etc.), AND SEEKING FOR ITS HIDDEN MEANINGS, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh.....(Aali Imran 3:7)
Here Allah said that the people of deviation, leave that which is MUHKAM (decisive, clear) and chase after that which is MUTASHABIHAT (ambigious, unclear)
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme This is what you and your kind are doing, neokhalafi2010. You LEAVE THE EVIDENCES WHICH ARE MUHKAM AND CHASE AFTER THE AMBIGIOUS EVIDENCES. An example of that is where we cited the hadeeth, WHERE THE RASUL SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALM, EXPLICITLY, [IN THE CLEAREST WORDS], PROHIBITED SPEAKING AGAINST THE MUSLIMS RULERS IN PUBLIC, even of the muslim Rulers are in the wrong. HE, SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM, COMMANDED US TO ADVICE THE RULERS IN PRIVATE.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme NOTICE THAT THE NABI SALLALLAHU 3LAIHI WASALAM SAID: "...TAKING THEM BY THE HAND...." So, THIS HADEETH IS MUHKAM. IT IS CLEAR, DECISIVE, UNAMBIGIOUS. THIS IS HOW SAHABA BEHAVED TOWARDS THE RULERS. THEY ADVISED THEM IN [PRIVATE], NOT IN PUBLIC.
WE HAVE REPORTS FROM THE SAHABA, WHICH SHOW THEY IMPLEMENTED THE ABOVE HADEETH, ADVISED THE RULERS IN PRIVATE AND SCOLDED ANYONE WHO ]CRITICISES THE RULERS IN PUBLIC].
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Furthermore, we have FROM THE IMAMS OF THE EARLY TIMES, IMAM AHMED, IMAM BARBAHARI AND OTHERS, WHO FORBADE FROM SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RULERS [IN PUBLIC] AND REVOLTING AGAINST THEM ETC ETC.
What do we see You and your likes doing? You oppose this command from our Rasul sallallahu 3laihiwasalam, you come out on Youtube speak against the Rulers, IN PUBLIC, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CLAIM YOU FOLLOW THE TRUTH, THE KHULAFA RASHIDEEN!!! WHAT DELUSION!!!!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme YOU LEAVE THIS CLEAR HADEETH, PROHIBITING SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RULERS [IN PUBLIC] AND YOU RUN TO ANOTHER HADEETH, WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT STAYING AWAY FROM THE GATES OF THE RULERS.
First of all, we dont know if this hadeeth is Authentic; as you did not provide us with a reference, as to who authenticated it. And I think you said, it was reported in Hakim, or something like that... So, we dont know who authenticated, or if its even authentic to begin with.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Continued... And no doubt, YOU ARE BRINGING THIS HADEETH TO USE IT TO ATTACK THE SALAFI IMAMS AND SCHOLARS. But ok, lets assume this hadeeth is autthentic; then this does not in anyway contradict the authentic hadeeth about advising the Rulers in private. Since, this hadeeth, you bought, discourages from FREQUENTING THE GATHERING OF THE RULERS, WHILE THE OTHER HADEETH TALKS ABOUT ADVISING THE RULERS IN PRIVATE [NOT IN PUBLIC]. Otherwise, IF IT WAS ABSOLUTELY IMPERMISSABLE....
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued..... THEN, WHY WOULD THE NABI SAY: "TAKE THEM BY THE HAND..." IF VISITING THE RULERS WAS ABSOLUTELY HARAM, WHY DID HE SAY: "TAKE THEM BY THEIR HANDS, TO ADVISE THEM????"
The point is, you, neokhalafi2010, leave the Muhkam evidence, of the prohibition of advising the Rulers in public, but advising them in private, WHICH THE SALAFI 'ULAMAH IMPLEMENT, and YOU TRY TO BRING A AMBIGIOUS, GENERAL HADEETH, to insinuate that the Scholars are deviant because they....
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued.... because they ADVICED THE RULEIRS IN PRIVATE.
MOREOVER, YOU YOURSELF, IGNORE A CLEAR HADEETH, PROHIBITING SPEAKING ILL OF THE RULERS IN PUBLIC. YOU OPPOSE THIS HADEETH AND COME ONTO YOUTUBE, SPEAKING AGAINST THE RULERS IN FRONT OF 100S, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE!
IS THIS NOT EVIDENCE OF DEVIATION???? SO, FEAR ALLAH! AND LEARN THE CORRECT AQEEDAH AND MANHAJ, FROM THE SUNNI, SALAFI IMAMS, STARTING WITH TAWHEED, BEFORE YOU BECOME DESTROYED LIKE THOSE KHAWARIJ!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme Now on the issue of EXPELLING THE KUFFAR!
The Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam said: "Expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian peninsula".
First of all, the hadeeth IS ADDRESSING THOSE IN AUTHORITY [AND IT IS NOT ADDRESSING EVERYBODY]. The COMPANIONS DID NOT IMPLEMENT THIS HADEETH BY GOING OUT, INDIVIDUALLY, AND PHYSICALLY EXPELLING THE KUFFAR, AT THE TIME OF ABU BAKR RADI ALLAHU 3NHU, EVEN THOUGHT THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS HADEETH. BECAUSE THEY KNEW, THIS WAS THE..
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@salafisblockme continued.... THE RULER'S JOB. IT WAS ACTUALLY, UMAR RADI ALLAHU 3NHU, THE SECOND KHALIF, WHO FINALLY EXPELLED THEM. So this shows that this is carried out by the Ruler, NOT THE COMMON FOLK! Not like the Khawarij dogs, who go around randomly shooting and killing the Kuffar. The Nabi sallallahu 3laihi wasalam said: "Expel them..." NOT KILL THEM!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 Proof is, Allah says: O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as AULIYA' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), THEY ARE BUT AULIYA TO ONE ANOTHER. AND IF ANY AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM AS AULIYA, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong¬doers and unjust). (Al-Ma'idah 5:51)
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 NOW I WANT YOU TO READ THIS CAREFULLY!!!
The first cateogry , ‘Tawwallee’. The basis of it is LOVE OF THE HEART FOR THE KUFFAR, AND [THEIR DEEN], AND ASSISTING THEM TO OVERCOME THE MUSLIMS, WITH THE CONCEALMENT OF HATRED FOR THE MUSLIMS. And this no doubt, [IS KUFR THAT EXPELS ONE FROM THE RELIGEON OF ISLAM].
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 The ‘Ulamah of Ahlus Sunnah, from the earliest times to the present, wrote concerning these three matters. One of them was ibn taymiyah! Its rather ironic that you should quote Shaikhul Islam on this matter, since He ,rahimahullah, (Surprise surprise!) was one of those who wrote in detail about the issue of tawwalee and muwaalat of the Kuffar!!!! Refer to Majmoo fatawa (1/20) if you’re interested!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 You see to the Khawaarij seeking aid or helping the Kuffar is kufr ABSOLUTELY; without making distinction between the who one makes tawwallee and the one who makes muwaalat. Tawwallee is kufr, that expels from the religion and Muwalaat does not expel from the religion but it is sinful. And there is a third matter, which is relevant to this discussion, the issue of seeking aid from the kuffar or employing them; which IS PERMISSABLE.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 The matter of seeking aid and assistance from the kuffar, is not as straight forward AND ABSOLUTE and black and white as the misguided, deviant Khawaarj make it out to be. Seeking aid and helping the Kuffar, does NOT NECESSARILY CAUSE SOMEONE TO EXIT ISLAM THAT EASILY. A person who seeks help from the Kuffar or aids them, falls into one of three categories: 1) Those who make Tawwallee with the Kuffar 2) Those who make Muwalaat 3) and those who seek their help and hire them.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 None of these Khawaarij are known to have studied under any 3lim. Do you not worry these people may be misguiding you? Tell me how you came to the conclusion, that this guy is an ‘alim’, let alone an ‘imam’ (LOOOL)?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 Ask yourself this: I am just a layman; I have little knowledge of the deen. Who determines for me who is knowledgable and who is trustworthy to learn from? How do I know this, awlaki, is qualified to speak in Islamic matters, especially those matter that concern the safety of the Muslims?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 continued... Likewise, we say to the filthy Khawarij of today: “you dont have a SINGLE ‘ALIM with you!” This is why you are misguided, because you are ignorant of the religion. If You had Scholars, they would have given you the correct explanation of these ayaat to you. It is because of this fact, the Khawaarij, themselves, turn to unknowns like awlaki, bin Laden, zwahiri and others of their ilk. What makes you think these idiots are qualified to teach you your deen?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 Who from the people of knowledge has explained those ayaat in the manner you are doing? You see one of the greatest proofs against the Khawarij, the ones you look upto, is that they DONT HAVE ANY SCHOLARS AMONG THEM. Ibn Abbas radi Allahu ‘anhu said to the Khawarij, when He went to debate with them: “ I dont see a single Sahaba (of the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam) with you” (or words to that effect).
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 I am guessing you are islam1429hijrah, the one who responded earlier to Rayyan. If you are are indeed islam1492, then I think I know where some of this nonsense is coming from. I’ve checked your profile and you have videos by that misguided kharijite innovator, awlaki; a non-Sholar, who has no Islamic credentials and is not known to have studied with any ‘alim of ahlus sunnah.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@neosalafi2010 LOL This is what you call ‘the truth’???!!!! This is NOT truth, this is FALSEHOOD. I am sorry, brother, but your kalaam closely resembles that of modern day Khawaarij like bin Laaden, zwaahiri and that of that other newly arisen ignorant Kharijite puppy, Anwar al-Awlaki.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk The Muslims cannot return to this correct aqeedah, when we have groups and sects like Jamatut tabligh spreading innovations and even Shirk and those upone Takfiri, Kharijite ideology, going around calling for revolution against the Rulers. The Muslims need to be warned against these deviant groups that oppose the Sunnah. RECTIFICATION BEGINS WITH TAWHEED AND WARNING AGAINST SHIRK AND BID'AH not. what you are doing; calling to innovations!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk continued.... All manner of sins. This is the state of the Ummah today and Allah is punishing us, by allowing the Muslims to be humiliated. The Muslims will ONLY have GOOD RULERS only when they are united under correct Islamic belief and work righteous deeds (not bid'ah) and keep away from Shirk.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk And to the end Ibnul Qayyim says: "And it is NOT FROM THE DIVINE WISDOM THAT THE EVIL-DOERS AND THE SINNERS ARE MADE TO BE RULED OVER BY ANYONE EXCEPT BY ONE WHO IS OF THEIR LIKE..... You see? Good Rulers are GIVEN BY ALLAH, as a result of obedience and true correct worship to Him subhanahu wata 'ala. YOU CANNOT ESTABLISH RULERSHIP, ALLAH GIVES THE RULERSHIP. Therefore, you CANNOT have good rulers, when there are people who commit shirk with Allah, practice bid'ah, dont pray....
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk continued: "And reflect in His, the most High's wisdom in making the kings of the servants, their leaders and rulers to be THE SAME NATURE AS THE ACTIONS OF THE SERVANTS. Rather, it is as if their actions became manifest in the appearances of their rulers and kings. If they remain upright, then their kings will remain upright, and if they turn away from uprightness, then they the kings too will turn away from uprightness..... TO THE END.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Another thing you mentioned was: "bad rulers and Scholars are signs of the last day". I'll repeat what I stated before: THE RULERS ARE THE REFLECTION OF THEIR PEOPLE. When the Muslims are good, they have good Rulers; when they are bad, they have evil rulers. There any many proofs from the Quran and Sunnah that establish this. In explaining this fact, Ibnul Qayyim said:
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk This is how Ahlus Sunnah advise their Rulers. In Private NOT in public view! The Sahaba did this, the tabi'een did it like this and those who follow them do this. And this has continued to this day, with the Salafis walillahil hamd! You and your likes have opposed the Rasul sallahu alaihi sallam by bringing the supposed evil of the Rulers in public; when you should be advising those Rulers in private! You are not enjoining good! You are enjoining EVIL!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk You ask: "why cant i involve in encouraging d goods & criticising d evils. ur saudi scholars & kings " O JAVA! This is NOT enjoining good! THIS IS EVIL! Our Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasallam said: "Whoever wishes to advise the ruler, THEN LET HIM NOT MENTION IT IN PUBLIC, RATHER LET HIM TAKE THE RULER BY HIS HAND (in private) . So if he listens then that is that, and if not then he has fulfilled that which was upon him." This is how its done, Java!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Rasulullah sallahu 3laihi was salam said:
There will come leaders WHO WILL NOT FOLLOW MY GUIDANCE and WILL NOT FOLLOW MY SUNNAH. There WILL BE AMONGST THEM MEN WHO WILL HAVE THE HEARTS OF DEVILS IN THE BODIES OF HUMANS. He (Hudhaifah) asked, What shall I do, O Messenger of Allah, if I reach that? He replied, YOU SHOULD HEAR AND OBEY the (RULER), even if he flogs your back and takes your wealth, then you should still hear and obey (in the what is good)." (Reported in Sahih Muslim)
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk The rest of the stuff is laughable. I am not going to bother responding to every single point, but there is one thing You raised which is: "bad rulers & d scholars are among d signs before d day of d judgement. rulers are meant to follow d quran & sunnah. We are created to obey Allah and his messenger so do the scholars and d rulers." WHAT!!!!???? Do not tablighi jamat teach you the hadeeth of the Rasul sallallahu 3laihi wasalam? I guess not!!!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Ibn Taymiyah, Shaikhul Islam, stated that if there is a land and the people give the Ruler ba'yah and there are is another land and the people there Ruler ba'yah. Then this is permissable. The Ottomans were not the only Muslim Rulership at the time. There was Mughals in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Morocco had a Ruler, and many others. The Muslims, in the past, have had many Rulers in any given time.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk After the death of Shaikhul Islam and Muhammad bin Sa'ud, the Ottomans sent an army to destroy the 'Wahhabi da'wah'. They killed Muslim men, Women, children etc. So who invaded who? Who challenged who's sovereignty? The answer, it was the Ottomans! As for your stupid assertion that why did Muhammad bin Sa'ud establish a state next to the Ottoman empire? NO SCHOLAR, of Ahlus sunnah, has stated that there cant be more than one Muslim land.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Shaikhul Islam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab did not set out to revolt against any Muslims state. His mission was to call to Tawheed and eradicate SHIRK, FIRST AND FOREMOST. Something You Harakiyoon care little about! He made a pact with Muhammad bin Sa'ud to establish Tawhid in the NAJD. With Allah's aid, they were succesful and a state was established. This is in the early part of the 18th century CE.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk I think I'll need to give you a brief history lesson because it looks like you need it! The Najd, the region where the early saudi state was founded, was according to Ottoman, European, and arab historical sources, NEVER part of the Ottoman Empire. THIS IS FACT. The Ottoman empire did not cover that region! You don't believe Muslim sources, then look up Western sources and see the map of the Ottoman empire, to see what areas they conquered.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk You've made a long and lengthy response. Unfortunately, I dont understand everything You write and besides most of looks like waffle to me anway. I am going to try to respond to you point by point in cha Allah. Fist of all, you keep repeating the same nonsense about Shaikhul Islam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab and Muhammad bin sa'ud seperating from the Ottoman Empire, over and over again. Lets get a few facts straight!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@AbuAbdullahUK You see, or do you not see? WILL THEY RULE BY THE QURAN AND SUNNAH? Rasulullah sallallahu 3laihi wa sallam said there will be leaders who will NOT follow His Sallahu 3laihi wasalam's guidance and will NOT his Sunnah. He called them RULERS. And they should be OBEYED (only in the good), even if they FLOG OUR BACKS AND STEAL OUR WEALTH. Clear now, or will you continue arguing?
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Another thing I'd like to raise... I checked your profile and 'ahlus sunnah waljamah' accuses you of being a member of jamatut tabligh. Is this true? If so, why are You involving yourself in politics? Dont the TJs tell people to stay away from politics? If You are indeed a JT, then I'd be more worried about your aqeedah than talking about current affairs. The TJ are a very deviant group, who fabricate ahadeeth and attribute them to our Rasul sallahu 3laihi wa sallam.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Continued... The Rulers of Saudi and Kuwait, wanted to protect their people and land from being conquered and turned into Baathi, comminist states. Is that wrong? You would prefer that they should have let Saddam in and Saudi could have now been another Communist Baathi state? It was either the Americans, or Saddam and his murderous army. They had to choose the lesser of the two evils.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk What are You talking about? The Rulers of Saudi and Kuwait brought the Americans in to defend themselves against the aggression of Saddam and his army. This is analogous to somebody hiring a security guard to protect himself and his property. This is permisable. Where did the Saudi ruler and the Scholars state that they want to see Muslims in Iraq die? Indeed, what the American did afterwards, from the sanctions etc. was bad. But how can the Saudi Ruler be blamed for this.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Continued.... Because some idiot, non-scholar told some ignorant youth to commit acts of terror, in the name of 'jihad', when in reality it's nothing but fasad!
You people should fear Allah and shut your mouth! Leave the matters that concern the safety of the Muslims, to those who can best deal with it, the Scholars and the Rulers!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Is what is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, something that concerns the public safety and fear of the Muslims? Yes, of course it is! Then who is the matter to be referred to, if not to the Rulers and the Scholars? Why are the Khawarij and Harakiyeen constantly talking about matters, which THEY CAN DO NOTHING WHATSOEVER ABOUT! Instead we see, everytime they open their diseased mouths, death and destruction. People getting blown up.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Do You not see that Allah said: “When there comes to them some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they make it known (among the people); if only they had referred it to the Messenger or to THOSE CHARGED WITH AUTHORITY AMONG THEM, the proper investigators would have understood it from them (directly). (An-Nisaa:83) Ibn Katheer explained that 'those charged with Authority' are the Rulers and the Scholars.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk Continued.... as if pretending, nothing ever happened. Unfortunately, this ideology spread to the west to the ignorant Muslims youth here. You constantly here those who have been poisoned by the Khawarij, talking about this issue, as if THEY CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. This has nothing to do with us. Leave it to the Rulers and Scholars!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@AbuAbdullahUK indeed. d saudis citizens so are d other kingships & dictators of the middle easts' were lullibied by good life and wealth Allah's bestowed on their land. Historically, d Saudis and all d kingship dictators of d middle easts were also harakiyeen & political activists against d muslims central govt of d uthmaniah yet they did call themselves like ones they blame on today.e.g d Saud used abd Wahab & d british support to make themselves rulers on hijaz. no? .how ironic
javabeserk 1 year ago
@javabeserk I dont understand everything You've written above. You need to explain what You mean in the first sentences. As for the Saudis living in luxury.... So? You're point being? Does luxurious living make a Kafir? Does it make it permisable to revolt against them? The Second part, You accusing Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab and Aale Saud of revolting against the Ottoman state is laughable and shows you dont know much about muslim history.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk The Hijaaz was never part of the Ottoman empire FACT! The Ottoman empire only covered madina, Makkah, 9atar, what is now UAE, parts of Oman and Yemen. This is well known to all who know about Ottoman history. Imam ibn Abdul Wahhab never invaded those parts under Ottoman rule. In fact, He himself stated in His books, that it is forbidden to revolt against the Muslim Rulers! It seems You have been misled by malicious Sufi propaganda!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk The British DID NOT SUPPORT THE so-called Wahhabis. You need to get your facts straight! I advise You to read about the da'wah of Shaikhul Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab from his own books and about his da'wah from RELIABLE contemporary sources and what other Scholars, like Imam Shawkanee rahimahullah, had to say about him.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@javabeserk No! He is not 'defending the King of saudi', just for the sake of defending. He is defending the Sunnah! The ones who have been obsessed with this issue, since the 90s, have been the Khawarij and the harakiyeen, political activists, who are upon Kharijite thought. Their agenda is to persuade the Muslim masses to revolt against their Rulers (Khawarij ideology). But walillahil hamd these Harakiyeen were refuted and exposed by the Salafi Imams and now they have gone quite.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
and in no way is this justified islamicly, remember what allah (swt) says in Surah Maida O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliyâ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliyâ), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust). (51)
islam1429hijrah 1 year ago
@islam1429hijrah Continued... Therefore, even for arguments sake, if we say they were mistaken for bringing the Americans in, then this was an Ijtihaad. The Scholars and the Rulers made Ijtihaad. They get two rewards for getting it right, or one if they are wrong. But nonetheless, they are rewarded, even if mistaken! Lastly, its not from the Sunnah, to criticise the Muslim Rulers in public. The Sunnah is to advice them in private and make du'a for them.
Rayyan1981 1 year ago
@Rayyan1981 - The saudi rulers have used the assistance of non muslim crusading troops to kill muslims. The prophet (saw) have warned us about the scholars who run to the gates of the rulers. Ibn Abbas (ra) reported that the Prophet (saw) said, "Whoever lives in the desert becomes rough (harsh), whoso follows the game (hunt) becomes careless, and whoso comes to the ruler falls into Fitna." [Abu Dawood and Tirmidhi]Â
islam1429hijrah 1 year ago
@Rayyan1981 - must be expelled from this Peninsula. Furthermore, hiring disbelieving men and women is very dangerous for the Muslims, their faith, their behaviour and the upbringing of their children. Therefore, such must be prevented in obedience to Allaah, the Glorified, and His Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), and to prevent a source of evil and immorality Shaykh Ibn Baaz Fataawa al-Mar.ah Published: 18 October 1999.Subhanallah 9 years after the fatwa changes.
islam1429hijrah 1 year ago
@Rayyan1981 - I quote again from Surah Maida O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliyâ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliyâ), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust). (51)
islam1429hijrah 1 year ago
Alhumdulliah, how is possible for the sheikh to justify allowing 500,000 crusading troops! (Not non-combatants) to attack a muslim state, even if we agree with their arguement that they were used for defence, why couldnt they ask a muslim state for his assistance im sure they would have been ever accomodating, In the 1st gulf war america used the saudi state as a base to attack the muslims of iraq and many muslims died not just iraqi troops, the blood of those killed is on the saudi ulama
islam1429hijrah 1 year ago
@islam1429hijrah The Ruler was justified in bringing in those troops in repelling Saddam Hussain and his army. And it is permissable, to ask for assistance from the non-Muslims without having wala to them. The Iraqi army, at the time, was one of the most powerful, experienced, battle-hardened, arab army at the time. There was no way Saudi could have pushed them back without assistance. Saddam attacked Kuwait and he would have attacked Saudi.
Rayyan1981 1 year ago
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Rayyan1981 1 year ago
what a shaytaan. lanat on salafis. go and make sajood to ur rabb fahd and abdullah and america. death to u munafiqs.
makhan101 1 year ago
@makhan101 wow its been a whole month since a khawariji left a foolish comment congrats ! whoo, i was starting to think you guys actually was coming around to the haqq ! guess im wrong ! quote "go and make sajood to ur rabb fahd and abdullah and america. death to u munaf..." why would we do such a thing ?may allah give you ahkle ....now hmmmm should i block you ?.........................naam!
cdwillingboro 1 year ago
@makhan101 May Allah cause the Kharijite da'wah of bin Laden and other of his ilk to fail and may Allah keep the Muslims, The Rulers and the ruled, safe from the evil of the Khawaarij. May Allah return the majority of the Muslims to the true and correct Salafi, Sunni Aqeedah. May Allah guide the above person above, who is upon the manhaj of the Khawarij, for curse the Salafis. Know this, whether you know it or not, You are the in actuality cursing ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah.
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@makhan101 Continued..... You Khawarij are upon a USELESS, DEAD da'wah. You will never succeed; history testifies to the fact, that you Khawarij have never succeeded in establishing an Islamic state. Why is that? Because you oppose the shar'eeah and yet, claim to call for the establishment of the shar'eeah!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@makhan101 Continued... Understand this, You Khawarij!!! THE RULERS ARE MERELY A REFPLECTION OF THE PEOPLE. If the people are evil, the Rulers will be likewise. If the people are good, so will the rulers be good. This the is THE SUNNAH in Allah's creation! Therefore, the Muslim Rulers today are upon, what they are upon, because of their people! Not because of America, not because of the UK, not because of this and that one! ITS US, THE MUSLIMS, WE ARE TO BLAME - FOR OUR HUMILIATION!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@makhan101 Continued... You expect the Muslim Rulers to rule by what Allah has revealed, and so do we (!), yet THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MUSLIMS ARE UPON DEVIATED AQEEDAH. A LARGE NUMBER, CALL UPON OTHER THAN ALLAH. THIS IS SHIRK (!), THE GREATEST SIN IN THE SIGHT OF ALLAH. You ignore this and say you want the sharee'ah??????!!!!!!
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago
@makhan101 Continued... WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT? THE RIGHTS OF ALLAH, OR THE RIGHTS OF MANKIND? PEOPLE ARE VIOLATING THE RIGHTS OF ALLAH, BY COMMITING SHIRK, WORSHIPPING THE SAINTS IN THEIR GRAVES ETC ETC. AND YET, YOU EXPECT ALLAH TO REWARD US BY GIVING US AN ISLAMIC STATE!!!???
AbuAbdullahUK 1 year ago