btw, if you care about my life so much and the one inside of me, let me live my own life. Im not a child, I can make my own decisions and the decision making process doesnt stop at the bed room.You dont have to agree with my deciosion or view points, but respect me enough to leave me be and to make them on my own. :)
To all the antis on here claiming pregnancy is just a mere inconvenience and that a consent to sex is a consent to pregnancy, you all are full of shit. No one has the right to use my body without my consent. If I get pregnant it is MY CHOICE what I do with that pregnancy. My rights trump fetal rights. And who are any of you to downplay the seriousness of 9 months of pregnancy? I worked in Obstetrics and I have seen what can go wrong. Abortion is much safer. No uterus, no opinion.
I love seeing conservatives squrm. Irony. Pro-life yet pro-war. Does'nt matter either way. Were all gonna die one way or another. And why should the unborn have more sanctity, or more rights that the mother? And I guess by the comments on here, Rape victums arn't people too and should be degraded down to barn yard animals and should carry it to term. As if they did'nt have a voice before when some guy shoved his dick in and out of her while she kept screaming 'no'.
@romanceandsparkles No. I want to make own decisions regarding myself and all that I am. Not some rich prick that sits at a desk all day and shapes the wold to what he/she sees fit.
@romanceandsparkles Babys are born, fetus are not. There are worse things women could do. Abortion aint shit compared what could happen if women are forced to carry to term. Some women have put anti freeze in baby bottles because they never wanted their pregnancy to term, but 'Had' to.
@Kayleahful Alright, you don't mind killing a human because there's always something worse? If I mutilate you, you shouldn't mind, because, I mean, there's always something worse I could do, right?
That is why we have adoption, so women don't have to raise children.
@romanceandsparkles What'd you care what I do to my body? My Uterus? Or my egg? Sence when is it any of your fucking business? And about 'killing', it has to be alive. its not, its an egg doing what it does. Like food in my stomac, would it be murder to throw up something i ate? (weither by bulimia or illness)
A fertilized egg isnt a human unless the mother declaires that it is, and fully wanted. By the way you act, how could you trust me with a chocie, let alone a child?....
@Kayleahful I don't care what you do with your uteres or your eggs. Fertilized babies are not just eggs, take biology class.
I do, however, care about your life and the life of the human growing inside your uterus.
And sorry, a fertilized egg is a fetus always. The mother doens't have to state it..I mean, what if she never does? And lets it grow? To term? Then births her baby? It couldn't possibly be a human if she hasn't DECLARED it, oh no...
@romanceandsparkles By declared, i meant 'wanted'. If it was wanted. Stop worring about everyone else. I dont need any help with something I dont have, nor will have. People think that children are perfect little gift when in truth their the same decaying matter as everyone else. Why should they or a fetus have more rights than me? I mean if its already existant in the physical reality, why isnt my existance taken into consideration?
If it wasnt for women this controversity wouldnt exist.
@Kayleahful I'm not saying a human life in the womb has more rights than you. All human life have equal rights. So, the mothers rights cannot trump the baby's rights. IT would be like a slave driver having more rights than the slave. So your existance is taken into consideration as well as the existence of the human life in the womb.
"If it wasnt for women this controversity wouldnt exist." Sorry..I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this statement. Could you elaborate please?
@romanceandsparkles I understand what you state and I agree to an extent. What I meant by "If it wasnt for women..." just think about it. Its not JUST birth control, or abortion; its other things like the 19th Amendment (Right to vote), equal pay, sexual harassment, abuse (relationship wise, as well as many others), females in warfare/battle, parental responsibility (single mom)... the list goes on and on.
If feels as though every part of being a woman is controversial.
@romanceandsparkles.... Child baring is one of my greatest potientials; and the last thing I want is a total stranger to FORCE me to endorse it at any moment in time when Im not ready. I feel as though I should have a child when IM ready.
As a side note: Safe sex is like a religion &should be pratice by those engauging the activity. The last thing I want is to be tied down for another 18 years of my life when I myself am not old enough to purchase Alcholic products in my own state (21)
@romanceandsparkles Adoption is just as bad as abortion (in my opinion). Yeah it maybe alive, breathing &out of the womb; but the fact of that bond between mother and child (from birth) is not there the sence of rejection is forever enstiched into the baby mind. Its called Implicit Memory. The same concept applies when a mother refuses to pick up a screaming child in the middle of the night in fear of it wanting attention or something of no use. it eventually gives up, thinking that the....
@Kayleahful Can you message me? Some of your replies don't come through to my account and it's hard to respond to them..you're welcome to if you want to debate this
@Kayleahful I acknowledge that, I'm trying to prove my point and stand up for life. If I didn't acknowledge the fact that you are anti procreation then this discussion wouldn't even be happening.
@romanceandsparkles How could you as a human of flesh &bone delare when life starts & when it ends. And who the hell are you to take MY UTERUS usage out of my hands? What, if I dont do as YOU please then its against your morals &I should stand trial for that? Or better yet, be gulit-tripped by 'non judging' prolifers drifting me into the abyss of suicide or THEIR religion because theyll pull every trick in the book to manipulating me that I actually did something wrong. haha! One less of me...
@Kayleahful I declare the truth, that's how.And I don't take your uterus..a fetus is not a uterus, it is a human life with equal value to you and me.ANd pro life isn't about religion; it's about truth.I havethree very good friends that are extremely anti-religious/athiest yet are the most pro life people that I have ever met.I believe that when an abortion occurs, the doctor/nurses/communities involved should stand trial. I believe the rapist/boyfriend should stand trial.
@romanceandsparkles Without me there'd be no uterus, &without a uterus there wouldnt be a fetus. Children are slavery &im not getting cut off at the knees like the way you want me to be. Im not your incubator nor its, nor I ever will be. Get it thorugh your thick head that im too poor to change my mind. Its people like you that CAN afford to have kids,& stop whenever you please but force people like me to bare it &then bail from taking care of it. You disgust me to no end.
@Kayleahful 1. I don't want you cut off at the knees. 2. I CANNOT afford to have children. There are ways to provide care for a child with low/no income. 3. Madame.
@romanceandsparkles ...The world couldnt give a damn &that its a dark, crule &empty place. Thats why alot of suicide victums autospy revealed that this genetic trait was present from 'abandoned' babies and not in adult/teens/children who were severly depressed.
In fact another form of infanticide is not ACTUALLY touching the baby. Did you know that if you didnt touch or stroke a baby's head for at least 10 min a day, it will die?
@Kayleahful That last statement is completely false. I do, though, completely understand the importance of touch in a baby's infancy.
As for your first points...Then more government money needs to obviously be spent on making adoption the best it can be for children. But if some, and I say SOME, children that are adopted commit suicide, then how can you be for abortion? For in every single case of abortion a baby dies, while only a handful of adopted children commit suicide.
@romanceandsparkles *Death by failure of brain development in newborns is an actual medical fact. Psycologist and physiologist have steped forward and stated it.
*CSP &Adoption is a fucking joke
*Pregnancies are not babies/ children
*You seem to've doged what I stated about Womanhood being at the front lines of political &social controversity.
It dosent take a Planned Parenthood to have an abortion. You do know that, right?
@Kayleahful "Death by failure of brain development in newborns is an actual medical fact. Psycologist and physiologist have steped forward and stated it." What's your point?
Adoption is a joke, like I said, because it is being ignored and all the focus is spent on low dose Pills.
"seem to've doged what I stated " And what was your point behind that?
Pregnancies AREN'T babies. The FETUS is a human life.
@romanceandsparkles The prolife argument in a nutshell: "Its alive! You vile Bitch, bare it and like it!!"... Yeah, hows about that IS the real issue of abortion &have you keep your moral hands away from my private parts. Ive already stated where im at- love it or leave it. &If you detest abortion so much, go live in Utaw. And as a misanthropologist, yeah, i am.
Why do you WANT to ruin my life for the sake of another?
@Kayleahful Pro life argumetn :All life has equal dignity and value and begins at conception.
"If you detest abortion so much, go live in Utaw." That's like saying "If you dont' like slavery, don't be a slave." It is a ridiculous argument that gets nobody anywhere.
"Why do you WANT to ruin my life for the sake of another?" Recognize the same case could be made for a fetus. You would kill it for the sake of yours.
@romanceandsparkles you damn right I would, your point? And Fatus is NOY a baby. Babies are born, fetuses are not. The last person you see when looking at a pregnate woman is the mother herself.
And how could you corelate abortion to slavery? Thats fucking disguesting! Slavery is FORCED, abortion isnt (if you live in America that is) Why do you even care what I have to say? Why do you even care if I am an anti? Im not joining your moraly fabricated club.
@Kayleahful A fetus is not a born baby, but it IS a human life with the same dignity as a born baby.
I corelated abortion to slavery to disprove your corelation of pregnancy to slavery of course. Abotion is forced actually many times by either parents, boyfriends, friends, or abortion 'counselors'.
I care what you have to say because I care about you and your future as well as any of your future children's futures.
It's not your body, it belongs to the baby. It's very selfish to think that's your choice. Absolutely not. By consenting to have sex, your consenting to be a possible mother.
@chriscougar86 The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police ever year and that 84% of rape victims did not report the offense to the police so its definitely more than 1%
I just watched an actual abortion take place... the baby was only a few weeks old. It came out struggling...
God Damn all of you who support this. There is a special place in hell for you, and I long for the day when the blood you now carry on your hands stands as a witness against you.
0:41 "Even with Roe v Wade, 87% of U.S. counties have no abortion provider." They want to use vehicles (like Obamacare) to let the current administration force abortion businesses into communities. At 0:47, the "pro-choice" group is attacking "conscience clauses". To satisfy such "pro-choice" groups (and assure more campaign donations), Obama recommended repeal of federal laws protecting the conscience rights of Health Care Providers who did not want to assist in killing unborn babies.
0:52 "Abortion/Rape". Look at the faces of the babies killed by abortion and try to tell which ones were conceived by "love", "rape", or what. But more to the point... If a rape victim seeks immediate and appropriate medical attention following the attack, the chance of a pregnancy is virtually eliminated. For decades "pro-choice" groups have tried to exploit the crime of rape to promote their political agenda: forcing taxpayers (regardless of moral convictions) to fund abortion-on-demand.
btw, if you care about my life so much and the one inside of me, let me live my own life. Im not a child, I can make my own decisions and the decision making process doesnt stop at the bed room.You dont have to agree with my deciosion or view points, but respect me enough to leave me be and to make them on my own. :)
Kayleahful 4 months ago
As a side note to EVERYONE:
There is no easy decision. But its awsome to know that I live in a country where I actually HAVE ONE, if not more...
Kayleahful 6 months ago
lets just let everybody in america do unhealthy shit to thiersleves and eachother.oh wait they already do.
iamsofakingwetoddit1 9 months ago
I'm pro-choice the freaking pro-life ppl should have been aborted i mean it just a damn kid nothing speical
powergirlttyu 1 year ago
maybe you sluts should stop whoring around. suck a dick instead
kakashi76767 1 year ago
@kakashi76767 I doubt you've ever been in a relationship. Sex is a natural part of loving someone. It happens to nearly everyone, save for maybe you.
SarahSeeAndersen 10 months ago
@SarahSeeAndersen just cause you are a whore does not make it normal. all im saying is that you should learn to suck cock
kakashi76767 10 months ago
Is it too hard to keep your legs locked?
PlatKing 1 year ago
@PlatKing Of course. Especially when someone is forcing them open to get inside you. So you are definately right! *Why are ppl so stupid.*
@kakashi76767 Stop acting like your so cool and you know everything.
RoxxalCame4You 1 year ago
people who want to abort are just whores who try to sneak theyre way out, period
firerescue142 1 year ago
@firerescue142 but if they have it they're just whores who got knocked up right?
MaybeMisery01 1 year ago
@firerescue142
and you speak from experience? you're a whore that wanted an abortion? this is interesting. Please share.
gegele40 1 year ago
not really if your aborting your just ignorant. true americans dont call it a choice
firerescue142 1 year ago
To all the antis on here claiming pregnancy is just a mere inconvenience and that a consent to sex is a consent to pregnancy, you all are full of shit. No one has the right to use my body without my consent. If I get pregnant it is MY CHOICE what I do with that pregnancy. My rights trump fetal rights. And who are any of you to downplay the seriousness of 9 months of pregnancy? I worked in Obstetrics and I have seen what can go wrong. Abortion is much safer. No uterus, no opinion.
MARITAC1974 1 year ago 15
@MARITAC1974 "No uterus, no opinion" is diong what you are so against.
"No one has the right to use my body without my consent" So babies 'use' your body now?
I have seen what can go wrong with abortion. Pregnancy is more safe.
romanceandsparkles 6 months ago
@MARITAC1974 There are baby human girls developing in the womb..at some point they have a uterus. Whwat do you say then?
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
T___T
Kayleahful 1 year ago
I love seeing conservatives squrm. Irony. Pro-life yet pro-war. Does'nt matter either way. Were all gonna die one way or another. And why should the unborn have more sanctity, or more rights that the mother? And I guess by the comments on here, Rape victums arn't people too and should be degraded down to barn yard animals and should carry it to term. As if they did'nt have a voice before when some guy shoved his dick in and out of her while she kept screaming 'no'.
Kayleahful 1 year ago 13
@Kayleahful Pro life yet pro standing up for the truth you mean.
That's kind of a sadistic reason to be pro choice isnt it??
Do you think abortion should be in only rape/incest cases then?
romanceandsparkles 6 months ago
@romanceandsparkles No. I want to make own decisions regarding myself and all that I am. Not some rich prick that sits at a desk all day and shapes the wold to what he/she sees fit.
Kayleahful 6 months ago
@Kayleahful You don't mind killing a baby?
romanceandsparkles 6 months ago
@romanceandsparkles Babys are born, fetus are not. There are worse things women could do. Abortion aint shit compared what could happen if women are forced to carry to term. Some women have put anti freeze in baby bottles because they never wanted their pregnancy to term, but 'Had' to.
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful Alright, you don't mind killing a human because there's always something worse? If I mutilate you, you shouldn't mind, because, I mean, there's always something worse I could do, right?
That is why we have adoption, so women don't have to raise children.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles What'd you care what I do to my body? My Uterus? Or my egg? Sence when is it any of your fucking business? And about 'killing', it has to be alive. its not, its an egg doing what it does. Like food in my stomac, would it be murder to throw up something i ate? (weither by bulimia or illness)
A fertilized egg isnt a human unless the mother declaires that it is, and fully wanted. By the way you act, how could you trust me with a chocie, let alone a child?....
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful I don't care what you do with your uteres or your eggs. Fertilized babies are not just eggs, take biology class.
I do, however, care about your life and the life of the human growing inside your uterus.
And sorry, a fertilized egg is a fetus always. The mother doens't have to state it..I mean, what if she never does? And lets it grow? To term? Then births her baby? It couldn't possibly be a human if she hasn't DECLARED it, oh no...
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles By declared, i meant 'wanted'. If it was wanted. Stop worring about everyone else. I dont need any help with something I dont have, nor will have. People think that children are perfect little gift when in truth their the same decaying matter as everyone else. Why should they or a fetus have more rights than me? I mean if its already existant in the physical reality, why isnt my existance taken into consideration?
If it wasnt for women this controversity wouldnt exist.
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful I'm not saying a human life in the womb has more rights than you. All human life have equal rights. So, the mothers rights cannot trump the baby's rights. IT would be like a slave driver having more rights than the slave. So your existance is taken into consideration as well as the existence of the human life in the womb.
"If it wasnt for women this controversity wouldnt exist." Sorry..I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this statement. Could you elaborate please?
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles I understand what you state and I agree to an extent. What I meant by "If it wasnt for women..." just think about it. Its not JUST birth control, or abortion; its other things like the 19th Amendment (Right to vote), equal pay, sexual harassment, abuse (relationship wise, as well as many others), females in warfare/battle, parental responsibility (single mom)... the list goes on and on.
If feels as though every part of being a woman is controversial.
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles.... Child baring is one of my greatest potientials; and the last thing I want is a total stranger to FORCE me to endorse it at any moment in time when Im not ready. I feel as though I should have a child when IM ready.
As a side note: Safe sex is like a religion &should be pratice by those engauging the activity. The last thing I want is to be tied down for another 18 years of my life when I myself am not old enough to purchase Alcholic products in my own state (21)
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful You don't have to tied down for 18 years. It's called adoption.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles Adoption is just as bad as abortion (in my opinion). Yeah it maybe alive, breathing &out of the womb; but the fact of that bond between mother and child (from birth) is not there the sence of rejection is forever enstiched into the baby mind. Its called Implicit Memory. The same concept applies when a mother refuses to pick up a screaming child in the middle of the night in fear of it wanting attention or something of no use. it eventually gives up, thinking that the....
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful Can you message me? Some of your replies don't come through to my account and it's hard to respond to them..you're welcome to if you want to debate this
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles Theres nothing to debate. Im personally anti procreation and you need to acknowledge that. :)
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful I acknowledge that, I'm trying to prove my point and stand up for life. If I didn't acknowledge the fact that you are anti procreation then this discussion wouldn't even be happening.
romanceandsparkles 4 months ago
@romanceandsparkles How could you as a human of flesh &bone delare when life starts & when it ends. And who the hell are you to take MY UTERUS usage out of my hands? What, if I dont do as YOU please then its against your morals &I should stand trial for that? Or better yet, be gulit-tripped by 'non judging' prolifers drifting me into the abyss of suicide or THEIR religion because theyll pull every trick in the book to manipulating me that I actually did something wrong. haha! One less of me...
Kayleahful 4 months ago
@Kayleahful I declare the truth, that's how.And I don't take your uterus..a fetus is not a uterus, it is a human life with equal value to you and me.ANd pro life isn't about religion; it's about truth.I havethree very good friends that are extremely anti-religious/athiest yet are the most pro life people that I have ever met.I believe that when an abortion occurs, the doctor/nurses/communities involved should stand trial. I believe the rapist/boyfriend should stand trial.
romanceandsparkles 4 months ago
@romanceandsparkles Without me there'd be no uterus, &without a uterus there wouldnt be a fetus. Children are slavery &im not getting cut off at the knees like the way you want me to be. Im not your incubator nor its, nor I ever will be. Get it thorugh your thick head that im too poor to change my mind. Its people like you that CAN afford to have kids,& stop whenever you please but force people like me to bare it &then bail from taking care of it. You disgust me to no end.
Good day sir.
Kayleahful 4 months ago
@Kayleahful 1. I don't want you cut off at the knees. 2. I CANNOT afford to have children. There are ways to provide care for a child with low/no income. 3. Madame.
romanceandsparkles 4 months ago
@romanceandsparkles ...The world couldnt give a damn &that its a dark, crule &empty place. Thats why alot of suicide victums autospy revealed that this genetic trait was present from 'abandoned' babies and not in adult/teens/children who were severly depressed.
In fact another form of infanticide is not ACTUALLY touching the baby. Did you know that if you didnt touch or stroke a baby's head for at least 10 min a day, it will die?
I shit you not, its true.
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful That last statement is completely false. I do, though, completely understand the importance of touch in a baby's infancy.
As for your first points...Then more government money needs to obviously be spent on making adoption the best it can be for children. But if some, and I say SOME, children that are adopted commit suicide, then how can you be for abortion? For in every single case of abortion a baby dies, while only a handful of adopted children commit suicide.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles *Death by failure of brain development in newborns is an actual medical fact. Psycologist and physiologist have steped forward and stated it.
*CSP &Adoption is a fucking joke
*Pregnancies are not babies/ children
*You seem to've doged what I stated about Womanhood being at the front lines of political &social controversity.
It dosent take a Planned Parenthood to have an abortion. You do know that, right?
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful "Death by failure of brain development in newborns is an actual medical fact. Psycologist and physiologist have steped forward and stated it." What's your point?
Adoption is a joke, like I said, because it is being ignored and all the focus is spent on low dose Pills.
"seem to've doged what I stated " And what was your point behind that?
Pregnancies AREN'T babies. The FETUS is a human life.
Yes I know that. Thanks.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles kids suck. may we as a species live long and die out
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful That's a bit sadistic, isn't it? Let's get back to the real issue of abortion.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles The prolife argument in a nutshell: "Its alive! You vile Bitch, bare it and like it!!"... Yeah, hows about that IS the real issue of abortion &have you keep your moral hands away from my private parts. Ive already stated where im at- love it or leave it. &If you detest abortion so much, go live in Utaw. And as a misanthropologist, yeah, i am.
Why do you WANT to ruin my life for the sake of another?
Kayleahful 5 months ago
@Kayleahful Pro life argumetn :All life has equal dignity and value and begins at conception.
"If you detest abortion so much, go live in Utaw." That's like saying "If you dont' like slavery, don't be a slave." It is a ridiculous argument that gets nobody anywhere.
"Why do you WANT to ruin my life for the sake of another?" Recognize the same case could be made for a fetus. You would kill it for the sake of yours.
romanceandsparkles 4 months ago
@romanceandsparkles you damn right I would, your point? And Fatus is NOY a baby. Babies are born, fetuses are not. The last person you see when looking at a pregnate woman is the mother herself.
And how could you corelate abortion to slavery? Thats fucking disguesting! Slavery is FORCED, abortion isnt (if you live in America that is) Why do you even care what I have to say? Why do you even care if I am an anti? Im not joining your moraly fabricated club.
Maybe you forgot that im a misanthrope
Kayleahful 4 months ago
@Kayleahful A fetus is not a born baby, but it IS a human life with the same dignity as a born baby.
I corelated abortion to slavery to disprove your corelation of pregnancy to slavery of course. Abotion is forced actually many times by either parents, boyfriends, friends, or abortion 'counselors'.
I care what you have to say because I care about you and your future as well as any of your future children's futures.
romanceandsparkles 4 months ago
It's not your body, it belongs to the baby. It's very selfish to think that's your choice. Absolutely not. By consenting to have sex, your consenting to be a possible mother.
andrews1195 1 year ago
Only %1 of abortions of results of rape.
It's not just the womans body it's the baby's.
A few pounds and stretch marks is better than murder. The baby didn't do anything. why kill a innocent baby?
chriscougar86 1 year ago
@chriscougar86 The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police ever year and that 84% of rape victims did not report the offense to the police so its definitely more than 1%
nightlydeath1 1 year ago 3
@nightlydeath1 thanks for the stats. i guess what your telling me is if i go out and rape someone i wont get caught. good to know!
kakashi76767 1 year ago
I just watched an actual abortion take place... the baby was only a few weeks old. It came out struggling...
God Damn all of you who support this. There is a special place in hell for you, and I long for the day when the blood you now carry on your hands stands as a witness against you.
youngbono18 1 year ago
0:41 "Even with Roe v Wade, 87% of U.S. counties have no abortion provider." They want to use vehicles (like Obamacare) to let the current administration force abortion businesses into communities. At 0:47, the "pro-choice" group is attacking "conscience clauses". To satisfy such "pro-choice" groups (and assure more campaign donations), Obama recommended repeal of federal laws protecting the conscience rights of Health Care Providers who did not want to assist in killing unborn babies.
mzpmrrs76 2 years ago
1:52 "We support the right to choose". Now look at the "choice" they are "support(ing)": Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
catburger1000 2 years ago
0:52 "Abortion/Rape". Look at the faces of the babies killed by abortion and try to tell which ones were conceived by "love", "rape", or what. But more to the point... If a rape victim seeks immediate and appropriate medical attention following the attack, the chance of a pregnancy is virtually eliminated. For decades "pro-choice" groups have tried to exploit the crime of rape to promote their political agenda: forcing taxpayers (regardless of moral convictions) to fund abortion-on-demand.
kweer58 2 years ago
you speak truth in a time of deceit.
SunnyLovetts 2 years ago