these guys are second generation athletes who are just as good if not better athletes than their father. why in the blue hell are these guys not the tag champs yet? I mean (IMO at least) these guys are the only true legitimate tag team in the WWE right now and quite honestly they deserve the spotlight.
Maori ARE Polynesians. They stand out from the rest due to having been isolated from other Polynesians for centuries in islands that are the biggest in Polynesia with a cooler climate than the rest of the pacific islands which are all tropical. Also, their culture is unlike others in Polynesia. Their methods of warfare,their traditional housing,weapons,tattoos & clothing all stand out as compared to other Polynesian natives, who are almost similar except for their language.
Well im a Kiwi and this is Ka Mate, a MAORI haka, siva tau is not even close. I like these guys but whats with the NZ stuff, NZ haka and a NZ Rapper singing their song, I guess David Dallas is part samoan though.
lol I think people should remember that the wwe has always fucked up characters heritages I mean Yokozuna was a sumo from Japan played by a samoan and who can forget more recently Kofi Kingston lol. im glad the Uso's are getting a push and if this is what they get stuck with as a result of that then im thankful its not as bad as Kanes Katie vick storyline.
LOL.. Dont even pay attention to "tanuvasa" "hazza" and dumb ass "Nanayification" because they are all the same person. 1 troll going around spreading lies about Polynesians and thumbing themselves up. Got caught in lies and they are still thumbing themselves up.How can you be that much of a loser you have to create tons of accounts to sound like you have support. What a fking loser. Fake Polynesian spreading lies. Got caught in a lie and stopped responding. Plz Block & remove their comments
Who says I don't make money? Because I'm a Carpenter, that means I make 40,000 a week, thats 5,700+ a day and all I do is frame buildings. The easiest and a healthier job than yours where you ruin your eyes wanking off to NBA sprites.
@hazza3 Carpenter in New Zealand? GTFO.. LMAO.. Aint no high paying good jobs in New Zealand piece of shit..hahaha.. 40,000 a weak? lmfao.. Lying piece of shit. Keep trolling.. By the way I know you have like 8 accounts you low life dumb ass bum. America has way more money than New Zealand and I know a few carpenters that dont even get paid close to that. You said you make $2,184,000 a year?? LMFAO.. No million airs in carpentry especially in New Zealand you lying bitch. You are a dumb bum.LOL
@00GameReviewsYou're retard huh. If I remember right, the USA owes 16 trillion dollars to a LOT of countries, including new zealand. My brother is a Carpenter and he makes 40,000 a week on contract working in different countries.
You live in your little gay fantasy all you like. What a loser, or should I say, dumb bum.
@Nanayification LMAO.You have a sister that has to back you up? LOL.First time I ever had a family members idiot retarded looking sister come on and defend a faggot that knows shit about life. 40,000 a week means he is a million air and I have friends that do carpentry and dont even make close to that dumb bitch.Do a quick google search and you will see how much unions and carpentry makes.I know hes a lying faggot because you cant earn a million in carpentry.Both of you are dumb lying fucks.lol
@00GameReviews Holy shit I didn't say Hazza3 was my brother you dumb retarded cunt. You're friends don't make that much because they're apprentices, who make 1,500 a day. Yeah, in Australia, where the dollar is higher and where there is a lot of building sites like Japan, South Island and Queensland there is a LOT of work.
God you're a retard, you're not worth talking to you stupid troll.
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@Nanayification Hey ugly, you called him your brother idiot. Second of all my friends passed apprenticeship long ago. Third of all $47,000.00 a weak is more than what many professional football players make you dumb shit and carpentry dont get that much. They get paid but not that much dumb lying bitch. Do the math in 1 year he would be a million air. GTFO you dont know shit dumb ugly ignorant bitch. HAHAHA YOu suck at lying. now go fuck off dumb troll.
If Maori's and the Haka is just monkey stuff, and Maori, Samoans and Tongans are all the same, then that means all Polynesians are just monkeys and broke ass niggaz like you said.
@hazza3 lol.. I made almost $600.00 bucks since I last heard from you.. Wait make that 800.00..Thanks for not hitting the reply button pussy.lol. How much have you made?? Oh wait you are broke and are only concerned of the sorry ass maori culture that dont get you paid..hahahaha.. Polynesians are 1 race yet cultures are some what different. Difference between us is that you have no money and you are dumb as fuck and I am the opposite..hahaha
In 00GameReviews(aka gaming loser) logic, Chinese people are raping, murdering Japs who killed 2,000 people in Hawaii and Koreans can speak Chinese and Japanese because they're all Asian. All Africans can speak Zulu because they're all African and all Europeans have bad teeth and are inbred because 00GameReviews thinks they're all the same just because of DNA but has no proof of it and nothing to do with stealing cultures. You know, like what the Germans did to the British.
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@hazza3 Listen, nobody cares about the sorry ass Maori haka ok? looks dumb as fuck anyways and who the hell wants to claim that? Look like a bunch of dumb as monkeys. Second of all DNA proves all Polynesian people are the same. DNA changes over a length of time? According to what you dumb shit?Thats only if you mix it. Tongans and Samoans have way better culture than Maori but hey, they are genetically the same race. Keep trolling. Nobody gives a flying fuck about the sorry ass Maori culture.lol
@hazza3 Also.. I make $300.00 a day playing Madden football and thats only a side job and not including my other job. I do that part time for fun and yes I get paid to do that shit you fucking bum.. Ima baller and yes im a beast...broke ass nigga..hahaha
the people that are hatin on the haka need to fall back and chill, who gives a shit if its maori or if they doin it wrong, at least they tryin hard. stupid mofos need to stop bitchin lol as for the wwe, they need to start givin these two a push, they are the best thing going in that weak as tag division.
They're doing something different, new, and exciting, and yet people still complain. USOS keep doing ya thing. Shit's exciting... WWE, use them more!!!
@meragan 12487 and @TheDrLyric - Sorry for the confusion, I was actually referring to their Siva Tau video I saw just before I viewed this one of the Haka. If youre Maori and you're offended don't worry, they already ruined the Siva Tau. .
Just when I thought their Siva Tau couldn't get any worse, what do they do? They oso and do another country's war dance. If they were part Maori, ok cool. But since they're supposed to be Samoan, how can they draw strength from a something thats not theirs?
When I saw this the first time, the first few seconds I was like "wtf is this cheesy shit?", but as it went on and on, I started getting goosebumps. :D
Well over 90 per cent of Cook Islanders are either of full or partial descent of the native Polynesian people of the islands, who are known as Cook Islands Māori. Cook Islands Māori are related to the Māori of New Zealand and to the native peoples of French Polynesia. Some Cook Islanders are also of other Polynesian, European (Papa'a), or Asian descent.
OMG @ ALL THE DEBATING & ARGUING GET OVER IT! good to see the uso's embracing the maori culture & yeah they fukcd up the words but should appreciate the fact that they tried ...don't think I have ever seen or will ever see Maori wrestlers go out there and do a Samoan war dance so until then lets all just drink some shut up juice and enjoy the entertainment of wrestling lmfao
OMG @ ALL THE DEBATING & ARGUING GET OVER IT! good to see the uso's embracing the maori culture & yeah they fukcd up the words but should appreciate the fact that they tried ...don't think I have ever seen or will ever see Maori wrestlers go out there and do a Samoan war dance so until then lets all just drink some shut up juice and enjoy the entertainment of wrestling lmfao
Glad to see our culture on tv n all, and no offense to all the polys from the U.S.A but man most u guys (not all) think that "kamate kamate" the all blacks haka (maori); is the universal islander haka.
and after seeing these guys do the manu samoa siva tau, daaaaang, they just slaughtered this haka just as bad :(
I'm Samoan and embarrassed by this literally. I find it extremely ridiculous that they would do the Maori haka when they are clearly Samoan, there is no relation between the two ethnicity's. Uso brothers sorry that was poor as well as putting it out for the world to see, his voice was also crackling and weak so fairly embarrassed :/
You know, a real professional doesn't spout random insults like you do and then demand to debate on Skype. Thats really something a loser does to get attention.
lol, uso means brother in Samoan and what they did was a Maori haka. Are the uso's afa kasi which means half casts......half Maori and half Samoan. If they are that's great. if they're not they are having a identity crises.
@wfwwrestling05 It was the words of a famous Warrior in New Zealand. He was hidden underground when British Military came after him. He thought he was going to die, but he kept living til finally, a man helped him out of the trench. He was blinded by the sun. He then wrote a poem about it and now its used as a Maori War Dance. :)
fucked up a few words? they fucked up the whole thing haha.. but hey the white dont know *wink wink* lol.. bring on the world cup see the real thing :)
This is a Maori haka performed by Samoans which i think is paying homage to the Maori people and even though they fucked up a few words you shouldnt get offended. Samoan haka is Siva Tau and it can be performed with the same intensity. Haka is a war dance telling your enemy your gonna eat his heart n things of that nature. Usos if ur gna du a haka get werds ryt
This is a Maori haka performed by Samoans which i think is paying homage to the Maori people and even though they fucked up a few words you shouldnt get offended. Samoan haka is Siva Tau and it can be performed with the same intensity. Haka is a war dance telling your enemy your gonna eat his heart n things of that nature. Usos if ur gna du a haka get werds ryt
omg, what did i just see here? samoans doing the haka, and not even the propper way? wth is up with that? us samoans do the siva tau. agh big ups anyways reping samoa and new zealand i geuss.
i know i aint doing nothing as big as them to rep samoa so what evers lol
@Markassial No, I said it's not my fault if you come across as another know it all American. There's a difference. That's not all I know at all, but evidently you don't even know what that is. So again, stick to shit you know instead of acting like you know about a culture that you aren't part of and don't understand.
@spidey2323 it technically is samoan, the haka is a traditional dance form of the polynesian race(mostly maori) but ALL samoan ancestry did the haka(in all its forms) years ago so the uso's do not need to change it, besides its fucking awesome=)
Yes Pacific cultures are similar and may have stemmed from the same ancestor but they are individuals and they each speak their own language and perform their own dance. THAT up there is a MAORI haka created by the MAORI people and spoken in MAORI.
@Kerry222 YES but if u had eyes u would see that the point i am trying to make is that the maori AND samoans are BOTH polynesian, and before u hit back with some retarded comment look it up and clamp it ffs
I do see the point you're trying to make, but to me that is saying that all cultures who live in the greater part of Asia are the same, I don't think the Tibetans and Chinese would appreciate that.
Or would you like me to lump all those who live in the Americas in to the same group too?
Also I don't need to look it up because I am a Kiwi born and raised in New Zealand and I am, in fact, Maori. Hence my disapproval of the blatant over look my culture has been given.
@Kerry222 Maori and Samoan and any other Polynesian have the same exact DNA. They are the same exact people. Only difference is hundreds of years of separation and a few altercations to culture and language but thats it. You dont believe me why dont you do your damn homework and quit preaching lies about my race. Look up scientific DNA for Polynesian people. Why is it so hard for you ignorant trolls to understand? We are all 1 people, Polynesian.. So its perfectly fine, now go fuck yourself
Secondly our DNA base or the physical attributes we share is besides the point. I never disagreed that we were once all one, I even stated that we share a common ancestor.
My issue was that something scared and what I as a Maori view as special has been taken and wrongly used.
Wither a Togan, Samoan or Hawaiian were to perform that haka and claim it as their cultures it would still hold the same problems with me.
@Kerry222 You said we "May" have the same ancestors which tells me your not sure and unaware. I also highly doubt your even Maori. There are tons of white people in New Zealand who claim to be of Polynesian heritage just because they live in Polynesia when they really are not. It is way better for any Polynesians to do the haka since they are the same people then for it to be some white people or any other race.
@Kerry222 Nobody ever said they took it away from the Maoris. Nobody ever stated it belonged to them. Nobody ever intended it to harm Maoris. It was all out of respect to the overall Polynesian culture. The Haka goes all away back to when the Maoris were in the islands. The Marquesas still do it to this day. The only thing that separates Polynesians from one another is hundreds of years of separation and a few altercations with culture and language but thats it. DNA is the same. Polynesians r 1
@TrueGreatness73 ? You've never been to NZ so what would you know. As for Maori and Samoan. They are related but as much as Maori are related to Scottish. Language and genealogy say that Maori are a different branch of people that are related to Samoan, Tongan and Hawaiian, but they didn't come from the same place.
btw, Polynesian is a Greek Word. If you knew that then you wouldn't be making such stupid assumptions. Samoans have their own war dance, Haka is a Maori word. Ha'a Hawaiian, etc.
@hazza3 LMAO.. Dont talk about DNA because your dumb ass words dont match up with DNA. Polynesian is a greek word of course you dumb ass. The word Polynesian never existed until Europeans saw and decided to name them Polynesians. That just goes to show how dumb you are. Polynesian was a European invented word to describe us. I remember having so much arguments with your dumb wanna be Polynesian ass on here on youtube. Quit spreading lies dumb ass. Maori came from the islands dumb shit.
@TrueGreatness73 Well you wasted 500 chars saying the same thing with dumbass in each sentence. What you said doesn't make sense even for stupid people like your friends.
Was? Polynesian IS a Greek word and one fitting for Polynesia having all these islands. So you say, "Hate the white man" but then say "proud to be polynesian", that contradicts itself because you're using white man words to identify yourself. You might as well call yourself a Coconut. Stupid fat shithead Tongan wannabe Maori.
@hazza3 Lets jump on Skype and we can discuss this face to face instead of typing. I also want to see if you are a real Polynesian or just one of those stupid white guys in New Zealand who thinks hes Maori and try going around telling people Maori is a white race not a Polynesian race..lol. I will record our discussion and upload it on youtube for the world to see your face and to see what ignorant lies you have to say... My Skype is "truegreatness73" I bet you refuse to jump on
@hazza3 Yeah exactly. Quit thumbing yourself up with this and your troll account. I said we can skype and I can upload for the world to see our debate and you refuse which means you are just trolling. Piece of shit.
@hazza3 Now you are just avoiding skype? LOL.. Anyone who reads our so called argument will know you are trolling thats why your channel is unavailable..lmao.. You are just a internet retard with a big mouth and no balls.
@TrueGreatness73 How is Skype going to help? Whats wrong with MSN or Yahoo? Wow, you really are retarded. Is it because Tonga has never defeated New Zealand before right? Or do you hate your own culture and want Maori Culture.
@hazza3 Skype is to show us debating for the world to see but you are too scared so we can end it right there.. Its easy to troll without the cam to see us debating is it? smh.. Its easy to talk the talk but can you walk it? Hell no
@TrueGreatness73.... I've had a few arguments with this "hazza3" guy too about a few topics. And now I see the man is trying to separate Maori from other Polys by doing a lousy job getting others into believing that Maori are from a different people, lmao. It doesn't take a neurologist to figure out that Maori came from the other Polynesian islands BEFORE they arrived in NZ. It's terrible you had to come across this dunce, lmao. I'm an american Maori/Latino cross, btw.
@insanelylogical Finally someone who knows the truth..lol.. Thank you. I thought it was common sense but common sense is not so common these days. I dont understand how people can be so ignorant yet have a lot to say. You know the truth. Peace and respect.. Good day :)
@insanelylogical I never said Maori were never Polynesian, I'm just saying that just because they're related, doesn't mean that Tongans and Samoans can just steal the Haka and say its theirs.
TrueGreatness73 btw, is a complete tool. He says he hates White people even though he's proud to be German...
@hazza3, some Samoans and Tongans will use the Maori Haka. Maybe it's because they think of ours as being more intimidating then their own. That's how I look at it. I have no problem with a non Maori doing it, as long as it's done properly. I'm sure the other islanders would expect the same if non Islanders were to mimic their culture.
TrueGreatness73 is Tongan and German. And I only hate the bigoted white people.
@insanelylogical I know some Tongans and Samoans like to perform the Haka, and I like it when they do it, but I don't like how they say its theirs and just because they're Polynesian they think they can take anything despite Racial differences.
Its like calling a Japanese man a Korean and they both hate that. I have no problem with non Maori doing it as long as they do it right and give credit to the people who made that Haka.
@hazza3 , I try not to make a big deal about who is doing which, as long as they do it in a way that my ancestors would have approved. Also, I've seen TrueGreatness73 on other Haka videos defending all Polynesians, Maori included. He's all for Polynesian unity as I am. I can't stand to see other Polys fighting one another, esp on Youtube, but I know it's going to happen anyway, it can't be avoided. But those are the ignorant, uneducated ones. I noticed you've hidden your channel. Why?
@insanelylogical TG73 has said a lot of racist comments towards Maori as well as Asian and Europeans who we can also be part of a big family.
If you consider yourself Polynesian, then you are also appealing to the ideals of Europeans which TG73 hates because Polynesian is a European word and also a way of categorizing people into a group the European way.
Dude, I have no idea how I hid my channel, and I have no idea how to make it public. Ill change it if I knew how to.
@hazza3 By the way I remember long ago when we talked about Maori race and you said you were Maori yet I looked on your channel and it said on your comment page that you were moving to New Zealand and you wanted to know more about Maori people and you also wanted to know if they were racist towards you.lmao. You are not even Maori.. You just bearable moved to new zealand and now you think you are Polynesian.. I am waiting for SKYPE.. Bet you too scared for the world to see you & your lies.
@TrueGreatness73 ????? No....I've never said that at all lmfao. Are you sure its not one of the other people who know you're a dumbass wannabe. I am from New Zealand. I live in Whangarei, Nga Puhi.
You're not even Maori. Hell you're barely Tongan because apparantly, you're more proud of being a German than a Tongan.
@hazza3 hey haz i dont completely agree with your comment that say maori are as closely related to scottish as they are to samoan.
fact of the matter is that were all polynesian n share a common ancestry. linguistics, ancient geneaological legends and even dna support that most pacific islanders are basically family.
@Leweyjet Unfortunately, Maori aren't listed as Pacific Islanders. Maori are related to Polynesian, even if it is just distant, but like Gaul to the Celts, Maori are a branch of Polynesian, but not directly related. The languages are similar but not that closely related to each between Maori group and Tongan group of Polynesian.
Think of them as 3rd Cousins who see each other but dont acknowledge it. Being related, doesn't mean one can steal the culture of the other.
@hazza3 yes, my point was that maori ARE polynesian like most pacific islanders, NOT just a branch off; but more closely related to tongans, hawaiians, niueans etc.
now, thats completely different to being as closely related to scotts. whether or not u want to acknowledge it, what is, will always be set in history.
I still think these boys doing the haka is wack az tho lol
@Leweyjet Maori are practically first cousins with the Tahitians but they aren't closely related to the Tongan group. Like I said before, they're like Celts and Gaul and even the Hebrew and the Arabs. They're related, but as close as 3rd cousins.
@Leweyjet I wasn't using the Proto-Polynesian board which is about Languages, I was using the fact that Tongans had lived in the Pacific Islands longer than any other of the Polynesian groups and have relations with nearby Melanesians like the Fijians and the Kiribati(Both are Melanesian but have a strong Tongan mixture) Samoans and Hawaiians also have a strong Tongan Descent. The Maori, Rapa Nui and Tahitians had branched out eastwards.
@hazza3 I dont see you where youre going with this as youre going off on a tangent, but my point was that maori are polys.
as for debating polynesian origins via legendary tales, theories n dna testing, those can go on forever... why? cause no one really knows for sure. it seems like every year someone from NZ, Asia and Europe claim to have found the link between polys, asians, melanesians, negroids and so forth.
all theories contradicting each other in many ways, so whats one to think
@Leweyjet A branch of Polynesian, but not like the Tongan group of Polynesian. Like I said before, its the same relationship between Gaul and Celts, the Gaul being a branch of Celt but are racially and linguistically different. 3rd Cousins basically.
Origin of Polynesian varies. The main group, Tongan like Maori came from some points in Asia but they traveled at different points in time. So Maori could be Qin or Han while Tongans could be Manchurians or Hmong.
@hazza3 Yes different opinions of course, however you cant say maori are not polynesians as even you declare that they are; and in no way closely related to celts or gauls.
the asian origin of polynesia is irrelevant as my point was the relation between maori and samoan being of polynesian descent.
so my friend, whether you like it or not, maori (or people who are now called maori) are polynesian people.
@Leweyjet Im not saying they're not Polynesian, Im saying they're a branch of them, technically a different group. AGAIN, just like how Gaul are related to Celts, but the Gaul are a different branch of Celt, basically a different race.
Or the Hebrew and the Arabs, both from the same group(Semitic) but both come from different branches and are not closely related, in fact they both hate each other.
The Asian Origin isn't irrelevant since modern and ancient orators believe in it.
@hazza3 maori are still polynesian, a branch of a tree is still the tree. I know gauls are closely related to the celts (also irrelevant), but referring to what your original post which i replied to, you said "As for Maori and Samoan. They are related but as much as Maori are related to Scottish"........ OBVIOUSLY you couldnt be more wrong.
Thats what I was on about. mentioning old european and asian lines is irrelevant since you went off an a tangent. thats all im saying
@Leweyjet Anda branch can fall off, especially when it joins another tree. Not irrelevant since its an example of what Im trying to say but you can't see it. Yes, Maori are related to Samoan as much as they are to Scots, because Samoans are a different branch. We may as well say that there are no separate races and only one human race.
Its not irrelevant to use other races as examples of branching, much like how Korean and Manchurians are Asian but are a different race.
@hazza3 well if maori fell off the polynesian tree what is the other tree that its been grafted to? sorry mate but your comparison of maori being closely related to samoans as they are to scotts is like comparing a fox terrier dog to a polar bear. when clearly there are many terrier breeds such as bull, fox etc. which would make for a much more accurate comparison of polynesian races as samoans, tongans, tahitians etc.
if you think that maori are exclusive to all other races in the world......
@Leweyjet I thought you said you were done. Niueans are listed as realated to Hawaiians more than Maori. Cook and Tahitians are closer related to the Maori. You're not even trying to understand.
@hazza3 yes but they are "niuean maori" and "cook island maori"... dont ask me i didnt give them that name. i am trying to understand your point of view, but I gather youre implying maori are a completely different breed of ppl.... of course still part of the poly family, as are all the different races under the poly umbrella.
forgive me mate, i dont mean any offense, but just trying to get my point across that sams & maori are closer related than scotts.
@Leweyjet Niuean aren't called MAori, the only other Polynesians called MAori are the Cook Islanders and thats because they were recruited in the 3rd Maori Reinforcement Platoon going to Egypt.
Samoans are more like 3rd cousins. We know we both exist, we just don't like it. I've explained it several times already but you've ignored it.
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@hazza3 Polynesians are genetically the same people with very similar cultures and language. What is wrong with other Polynesians using it?? Polynesian being a greek word has nothing to do with that whole nation being 1 people long ago. Please go back and look at DNA studies. They are 1 people. What does Polynesian being a greek word have to do with anything? 14 idiots thumbs you up but you have 2 highest comments and your channel is unavailble so I take it you are trolling.. LMAO fail!!
@00GameReviews One people? Oh so I guess the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese are all one people along with Indians a ndKhmer people and the all share teh same culture and language. Oh but thats right, their languages and cultures and genetics are completely different despite being ASIAN. Maori and Polynesians are RELATED, not the same people, Do wish to be Maori so you can claim the Haka, don't you have one of your own? Don't steal other peoples cultures, Poaka.
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@hazza3 DNA does not lie. DNA does not lie. Did I mention DNA does not lie? I am not talking about culture. I am talking about DNA. Did I mention DNA?? Keep trolling
@00GameReviews You said something about DNA but you never backed it up because DNA says the Maori came from Asia. Because DNA said it, DNA from PROFESSIONAL DNA experts who study the DNA of people with DNA that relates the the subject of DNA. DNA. DNA. I said DNA. Your mother has DNA. Whores DNA.
Yes, you keep on trolling like your German friend there.
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@hazza3 if you think anyone is going to take you serious and call peoples mothers a whore and have your channel on block and go around to every Polynesian video speaking hate towards other Polynesians supporting only maori is going to gain you respect then guess what? You are a troll. Culture has nothing to do with DNA but of course your bigoted mind never knew that. I bet your parents taught you that. Shame on them.
@00GameReviews DNA Unlike culture, DNA changes over a length of time. Genes can shift and alter and break and reanew. Maori and Polynesians are related, but they are not the same people. I know because I AM FROM NZ AND EVERYONE WHO IS MAORI AND POLYNESIAN KNOWS IT. You're an idiot and ignorant. You're from the US so you like to think everyone is the same, thats bullshit. My channel is private because freaks like you and your friend keep stalking me, you people are ignorant.
@Kerry222 i see u got stuck in an arguement about these 2 doing tha haka, i have gotten the same problem from another video... i noticed u from NZ so i guess why we think so differently from these guys lol
@funakiexpress Yeah... I know I'm right, not in a "Nah you're wrong and I'm right!!" sorta way. But I know I am right because I was educated in an all Maori school and I know the history, both scientific and mythological, so I don't really care if someone thinks that I am wrong :)
They've change their intro now anyway, they must have copped slack for doing it or they didn't pay the copyrights hahaha
@Lou134K no, it is not technically Samoan, it's in Maori for fucks sake. This particular Haka is 100% Maori, if you knew the history of this particular Haka you would know that. There is nothing whatsoever Samoan about this. Stick to what you know mate.
@DieRuggedManDie ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO COMMENT ON YOUTUBE FUCKING RETARDED (with all due respect) the maori AND the samoans are BOTH i repeat BOTH, one more time, BOOOOOOOOOOOTH polynesian, ffs its like explaining something to a 2 year old, they BOTH have their own Haka's (and only 7% of them are war dances), so one more time just for all u people with low iq's, THEY....... ARE...... BOTH........ FUCKING....... POLYNESIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@DieRuggedManDie fuck me u are so fucking retarded ffs u dont even know what ur talking about, ur obviously just arguing for the sake of it and just to rub ur face in it, my dad is from new zealand and his parents are both polynesian u stupid motherfucker, why the fuck do u think im trying to put this point across?, cos non-polynesian fuckwits like u dont know what the fuck their talking about and try to act as if they have extensive knowledge of polynesians when really they know FUCK ALL
@Lou134K no, I do know what I'm talking about. I don't give a fuck if your dad is from New Zealand, I too am from New Zealand, I'm from Hawkes Bay, I now live in Auckland and I am Maori you fucking idiot Ngati Kahungunu So again, stick to what you know retard instead of thinking you are giving me a lesson in my culture and my upbringing. I'm not arguing for the sake of it, I'm arguing because we have clowns like you in America thinking they know it all about a Maori Haka
@Lou134K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA u think im american HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA excuse me but im not obese, im actually scottish and have been since i moved from Tauranga, Aotearoa, when i was 3, and ur even more retarded than i thought, u just lied that u are maori u fucking sad loser ffs get a grip of ur life honestly mate, u gave it away with the "america" line, u really are a loser, kidding on to be something ur not and dont bother replying cos i dont talk to lying scumbags like u
@Lou134K why would I lie about being Maori? are we not supposed to be on computers or something? or is it because I have better English than you that I surely couldn't be Maori? again, Ngati Kahungunu, what you know about that Mr Tauranga? If you were born in New Zealand you would have said that earlier instead of "my dad is from new zealand" you would have said "I am from New Zealand", not my fault that you come across as another know it all American talking about things he doesn't understand.
I mentioned before that I was Maori, but I am also a 1/4 Scottish through my Father.
Does this give me the right to claim all knowledge on your culture ? Should I hunt down a gross misrepresentation of something from your culture and shit all over it with misspelling and poor grammar so I can feel a part of something important?
Fair enough if you wish to claim heritage to a country as awesome as NZ, but don't be offended if we don't want you.
@Lou134K Your exactly right and dont even waste your time on that faggot. Hes not even Polynesian. He thinks just because you live in Polynesia (New Zealand) you are Polynesian but I told him you have to have the blood to be Polynesian. I also told him Maori Samoan Tongan ect are all Polynesian and have the same exact DNA make up yet he was too retarded to know. Hes not even Polynesian. I asked him to go on skype with me and lets record our debate and to show his face and he refused..lmao
@TrueGreatness73 EXACTLY thank you, its good to see there are some people left in this world that actually have proper knowledge of the points they are trying to make, cheers mate
ok dis is straight offencive...first of all their not doing the actions right, their pronunciation of the words are way off, its a maori haka not a polyneisan haka and lastly they are samoans, they should be doing the samoan war dance not the maori haka.
What the f**k is this shit. A haka is Maori not Samoan & they don't even look samoan. This is ridiculous you should remove it before everyone else in New Zealand complains & gets you blocked
should be doin dat slap dance son
CHR1SMS 2 weeks ago
these guys are second generation athletes who are just as good if not better athletes than their father. why in the blue hell are these guys not the tag champs yet? I mean (IMO at least) these guys are the only true legitimate tag team in the WWE right now and quite honestly they deserve the spotlight.
MightyEarthSage 1 month ago
what is the name of this theme??
thedeadmanfan09 1 month ago
Maori ARE Polynesians. They stand out from the rest due to having been isolated from other Polynesians for centuries in islands that are the biggest in Polynesia with a cooler climate than the rest of the pacific islands which are all tropical. Also, their culture is unlike others in Polynesia. Their methods of warfare,their traditional housing,weapons,tattoos & clothing all stand out as compared to other Polynesian natives, who are almost similar except for their language.
insanelylogical 1 month ago
Well im a Kiwi and this is Ka Mate, a MAORI haka, siva tau is not even close. I like these guys but whats with the NZ stuff, NZ haka and a NZ Rapper singing their song, I guess David Dallas is part samoan though.
str8gangster187 2 months ago
lol I think people should remember that the wwe has always fucked up characters heritages I mean Yokozuna was a sumo from Japan played by a samoan and who can forget more recently Kofi Kingston lol. im glad the Uso's are getting a push and if this is what they get stuck with as a result of that then im thankful its not as bad as Kanes Katie vick storyline.
LOLAtFatGirls 2 months ago
The police man was there uncle wow
valenciathomas 2 months ago
I like the them
valenciathomas 2 months ago
umaga split in to 2?
policemanben1 2 months ago 3
@policemanben1 he was their uncle
aldamokm 2 months ago
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LOL.. Dont even pay attention to "tanuvasa" "hazza" and dumb ass "Nanayification" because they are all the same person. 1 troll going around spreading lies about Polynesians and thumbing themselves up. Got caught in lies and they are still thumbing themselves up.How can you be that much of a loser you have to create tons of accounts to sound like you have support. What a fking loser. Fake Polynesian spreading lies. Got caught in a lie and stopped responding. Plz Block & remove their comments
00GameReviews 3 months ago
Who says I don't make money? Because I'm a Carpenter, that means I make 40,000 a week, thats 5,700+ a day and all I do is frame buildings. The easiest and a healthier job than yours where you ruin your eyes wanking off to NBA sprites.
hazza3 3 months ago 6
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@hazza3 Carpenter in New Zealand? GTFO.. LMAO.. Aint no high paying good jobs in New Zealand piece of shit..hahaha.. 40,000 a weak? lmfao.. Lying piece of shit. Keep trolling.. By the way I know you have like 8 accounts you low life dumb ass bum. America has way more money than New Zealand and I know a few carpenters that dont even get paid close to that. You said you make $2,184,000 a year?? LMFAO.. No million airs in carpentry especially in New Zealand you lying bitch. You are a dumb bum.LOL
00GameReviews 3 months ago
@00GameReviewsYou're retard huh. If I remember right, the USA owes 16 trillion dollars to a LOT of countries, including new zealand. My brother is a Carpenter and he makes 40,000 a week on contract working in different countries.
You live in your little gay fantasy all you like. What a loser, or should I say, dumb bum.
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@Nanayification LMAO.You have a sister that has to back you up? LOL.First time I ever had a family members idiot retarded looking sister come on and defend a faggot that knows shit about life. 40,000 a week means he is a million air and I have friends that do carpentry and dont even make close to that dumb bitch.Do a quick google search and you will see how much unions and carpentry makes.I know hes a lying faggot because you cant earn a million in carpentry.Both of you are dumb lying fucks.lol
00GameReviews 3 months ago
@00GameReviews Holy shit I didn't say Hazza3 was my brother you dumb retarded cunt. You're friends don't make that much because they're apprentices, who make 1,500 a day. Yeah, in Australia, where the dollar is higher and where there is a lot of building sites like Japan, South Island and Queensland there is a LOT of work.
God you're a retard, you're not worth talking to you stupid troll.
Nanayification 3 months ago 6
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@Nanayification Hey ugly, you called him your brother idiot. Second of all my friends passed apprenticeship long ago. Third of all $47,000.00 a weak is more than what many professional football players make you dumb shit and carpentry dont get that much. They get paid but not that much dumb lying bitch. Do the math in 1 year he would be a million air. GTFO you dont know shit dumb ugly ignorant bitch. HAHAHA YOu suck at lying. now go fuck off dumb troll.
00GameReviews 3 months ago
If Maori's and the Haka is just monkey stuff, and Maori, Samoans and Tongans are all the same, then that means all Polynesians are just monkeys and broke ass niggaz like you said.
hazza3 3 months ago 7
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@hazza3 lol.. I made almost $600.00 bucks since I last heard from you.. Wait make that 800.00..Thanks for not hitting the reply button pussy.lol. How much have you made?? Oh wait you are broke and are only concerned of the sorry ass maori culture that dont get you paid..hahahaha.. Polynesians are 1 race yet cultures are some what different. Difference between us is that you have no money and you are dumb as fuck and I am the opposite..hahaha
00GameReviews 3 months ago in playlist Samoan wrestlers
@00GameReviews Wow, you're a loser.
Rikashiku 3 months ago 10
You're a homo lmfao and a troll.
hazza3 3 months ago 9
In 00GameReviews(aka gaming loser) logic, Chinese people are raping, murdering Japs who killed 2,000 people in Hawaii and Koreans can speak Chinese and Japanese because they're all Asian. All Africans can speak Zulu because they're all African and all Europeans have bad teeth and are inbred because 00GameReviews thinks they're all the same just because of DNA but has no proof of it and nothing to do with stealing cultures. You know, like what the Germans did to the British.
hazza3 3 months ago 8
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@hazza3 Listen, nobody cares about the sorry ass Maori haka ok? looks dumb as fuck anyways and who the hell wants to claim that? Look like a bunch of dumb as monkeys. Second of all DNA proves all Polynesian people are the same. DNA changes over a length of time? According to what you dumb shit?Thats only if you mix it. Tongans and Samoans have way better culture than Maori but hey, they are genetically the same race. Keep trolling. Nobody gives a flying fuck about the sorry ass Maori culture.lol
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@hazza3 Also.. I make $300.00 a day playing Madden football and thats only a side job and not including my other job. I do that part time for fun and yes I get paid to do that shit you fucking bum.. Ima baller and yes im a beast...broke ass nigga..hahaha
00GameReviews 3 months ago
thats our Maori haka, dem usos should use your samoan haka not ours
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that was pretty bad ass
1AngryPerson 3 months ago
nossa mas q imagem ruim
ryuinosan 3 months ago
the people that are hatin on the haka need to fall back and chill, who gives a shit if its maori or if they doin it wrong, at least they tryin hard. stupid mofos need to stop bitchin lol as for the wwe, they need to start givin these two a push, they are the best thing going in that weak as tag division.
allday87 3 months ago
thats not samoan thats newzealand
kazlem1 3 months ago
They're doing something different, new, and exciting, and yet people still complain. USOS keep doing ya thing. Shit's exciting... WWE, use them more!!!
SuperSonicHot 4 months ago
wtf.. shame
fuamatu05 4 months ago
Uso's are Samoan, not Maori. The only Samoans that should do this kinda haka are the ones playing for the All blacks.
tanuvasa 4 months ago 18
@tanuvasa exactly this isnt a samoan haka... this is the all blacks haka..Samoan haka is the siva tau.... Cheehoo
PHeNoMeHNaL 2 months ago
@tanuvasa for the hunderth Time its NOT the Maori Haka its the Samoaen Sivi Tau
supersasukemaniac 2 months ago
@supersasukemaniac Umm dude. Im Samoan. This War Dance IS THE MAORI HAKA. and its SIVA TAU.. not SIVI... check yourself
tanuvasa 2 months ago
@meragan 12487 and @TheDrLyric - Sorry for the confusion, I was actually referring to their Siva Tau video I saw just before I viewed this one of the Haka. If youre Maori and you're offended don't worry, they already ruined the Siva Tau. .
vaitoloa 4 months ago
@vaitoloa No, not Samoan. Just a history nerd.
meragan12487 4 months ago
Just when I thought their Siva Tau couldn't get any worse, what do they do? They oso and do another country's war dance. If they were part Maori, ok cool. But since they're supposed to be Samoan, how can they draw strength from a something thats not theirs?
vaitoloa 4 months ago 2
@vaitoloa yeah i know its a haka not a siva tau
TheDrLyric 4 months ago
@vaitoloa But I thought the Siva Tau was Samoan and the Haka was done by the Maoris?
meragan12487 4 months ago
@vaitoloa because they are samoan
NiteSoldier88 4 months ago
When I saw this the first time, the first few seconds I was like "wtf is this cheesy shit?", but as it went on and on, I started getting goosebumps. :D
ESFAndy011 4 months ago
one of the best tag team entrances
JuOnTheGrudge2 4 months ago
well, i wasnt taking anything seriously.... just bringing your comment to attention.
and yeah, his passport says "Niuean Maori".
would like to hear from other niueans on this matter also.
Leweyjet 4 months ago
Well over 90 per cent of Cook Islanders are either of full or partial descent of the native Polynesian people of the islands, who are known as Cook Islands Māori. Cook Islands Māori are related to the Māori of New Zealand and to the native peoples of French Polynesia. Some Cook Islanders are also of other Polynesian, European (Papa'a), or Asian descent.
hazza3 5 months ago
have you heard of Maori Samoa?
XBoss265 5 months ago
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XBoss265 5 months ago
I think my bunny slippers just ran for cover.
BigDaddyGaryTheKing 5 months ago
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OMG @ ALL THE DEBATING & ARGUING GET OVER IT! good to see the uso's embracing the maori culture & yeah they fukcd up the words but should appreciate the fact that they tried ...don't think I have ever seen or will ever see Maori wrestlers go out there and do a Samoan war dance so until then lets all just drink some shut up juice and enjoy the entertainment of wrestling lmfao
bootystylez 5 months ago
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OMG @ ALL THE DEBATING & ARGUING GET OVER IT! good to see the uso's embracing the maori culture & yeah they fukcd up the words but should appreciate the fact that they tried ...don't think I have ever seen or will ever see Maori wrestlers go out there and do a Samoan war dance so until then lets all just drink some shut up juice and enjoy the entertainment of wrestling lmfao
bootystylez 5 months ago
that's the haka from New Zealand, that's the Maori haka "Ka Mate"
JosephMts 5 months ago
@JosephMts Its a cool dance and song I wish the would of kept this one I dont find the one they do now entertaining. This one is catchy!
Aryance08 5 months ago
Glad to see our culture on tv n all, and no offense to all the polys from the U.S.A but man most u guys (not all) think that "kamate kamate" the all blacks haka (maori); is the universal islander haka.
and after seeing these guys do the manu samoa siva tau, daaaaang, they just slaughtered this haka just as bad :(
Leweyjet 5 months ago
I'm Samoan and embarrassed by this literally. I find it extremely ridiculous that they would do the Maori haka when they are clearly Samoan, there is no relation between the two ethnicity's. Uso brothers sorry that was poor as well as putting it out for the world to see, his voice was also crackling and weak so fairly embarrassed :/
imsolo2020 6 months ago 4
this is so fuckn shit an y the fuck are there doing the NZ haka when there samoan
SuperMinto2566 6 months ago 2
You know, a real professional doesn't spout random insults like you do and then demand to debate on Skype. Thats really something a loser does to get attention.
hazza3 6 months ago
Wait, Truegreatness73, aren't you the same guy who though Abel Tasman was a Commandeer who killed and enslaved Maori? LMFAO.
hazza3 6 months ago 19
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lol, uso means brother in Samoan and what they did was a Maori haka. Are the uso's afa kasi which means half casts......half Maori and half Samoan. If they are that's great. if they're not they are having a identity crises.
muleestylz 6 months ago
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muleestylz 6 months ago
My husband was all psyched for this because he's Samoan. He had to translate what the hell they were saying for me.
CandyGirl069 6 months ago
@CandyGirl069 What Are They saying?
wfwwrestling05 6 months ago
@wfwwrestling05 Ka Mate Ka Mate - I die I die
Ka Ora Ka Ora - I live I live
Tenei te tangata pūhuruhuru - This is the hairy man
Nana nei i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra - Who brought the sun to shine
A Upane - A step forward
Ka Upane - Another step forward
A, upane, ka upane, whiti te ra! - A step forward, another step forward, the sun shines
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@wfwwrestling05 oh ok
wfwwrestling05 6 months ago
@wfwwrestling05 It was the words of a famous Warrior in New Zealand. He was hidden underground when British Military came after him. He thought he was going to die, but he kept living til finally, a man helped him out of the trench. He was blinded by the sun. He then wrote a poem about it and now its used as a Maori War Dance. :)
hazza3 6 months ago
@hazza3 ok I Get Yah! :D
wfwwrestling05 6 months ago
IF anyone deserves a documentary dvd made by wwe it is the Anoai family
shady610 6 months ago
im samoan an these guys look like eggs, next time you make a entrance just run down to the ring an save the trouble from doing the haka
TOFILAU2010 7 months ago
fucked up a few words? they fucked up the whole thing haha.. but hey the white dont know *wink wink* lol.. bring on the world cup see the real thing :)
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This is a Maori haka performed by Samoans which i think is paying homage to the Maori people and even though they fucked up a few words you shouldnt get offended. Samoan haka is Siva Tau and it can be performed with the same intensity. Haka is a war dance telling your enemy your gonna eat his heart n things of that nature. Usos if ur gna du a haka get werds ryt
REIGNTERROR88 7 months ago
This is a Maori haka performed by Samoans which i think is paying homage to the Maori people and even though they fucked up a few words you shouldnt get offended. Samoan haka is Siva Tau and it can be performed with the same intensity. Haka is a war dance telling your enemy your gonna eat his heart n things of that nature. Usos if ur gna du a haka get werds ryt
REIGNTERROR88 7 months ago
omg, what did i just see here? samoans doing the haka, and not even the propper way? wth is up with that? us samoans do the siva tau. agh big ups anyways reping samoa and new zealand i geuss.
i know i aint doing nothing as big as them to rep samoa so what evers lol
pisupomuncher 7 months ago
i made misheard lyrics
sticker3d 7 months ago
wat the name of the song after the haka
jay132009 7 months ago
i dont know 1 word there saying
WWERREdge 7 months ago
"All Blacks Haka" ...look that up for a chilling demonstration of the haka
GrecoWrestlerNJ70 8 months ago
@Markassial why do you keep saying you aren't going to reply any more but then keep replying lol?
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@Markassial No, I said it's not my fault if you come across as another know it all American. There's a difference. That's not all I know at all, but evidently you don't even know what that is. So again, stick to shit you know instead of acting like you know about a culture that you aren't part of and don't understand.
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@JulioCesarWWE You copied the title from another video.
tom19971101 8 months ago
The maoris are gonna be fkn pissed when they see this
23RAIDa 8 months ago
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Yeeah promoting Maori Heritage!!
jahflava 8 months ago
Yeeah promoting Maori Heritage!!
jahflava 8 months ago
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Churr @ the uso's doing the Haka too much on promoting the Maori Haka Yeeeahh!!
jahflava 8 months ago
Churr @ the uso's doing the Haka too much on promoting the Maori Haka Yeeeahh!!
jahflava 8 months ago
watta fucken mockery ewwww yuk
dubaychkayhorie 8 months ago
Maori Haka.....I thought these dudes were Saaaas. Ah, all good, can they wrestle like Samoa Joe over at TNA? LOL
This Maori don't mind, spread the culture boys!
ragers66 8 months ago
I actually like it. It connected well with their music break in.
But I didn't know it wasn't Samoan. Guess they could change it to a samoan dance with the same intensity.
We'll see how they change it next week.
spidey2323 8 months ago
@spidey2323 it technically is samoan, the haka is a traditional dance form of the polynesian race(mostly maori) but ALL samoan ancestry did the haka(in all its forms) years ago so the uso's do not need to change it, besides its fucking awesome=)
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K
Thats just ignorant.
Yes Pacific cultures are similar and may have stemmed from the same ancestor but they are individuals and they each speak their own language and perform their own dance. THAT up there is a MAORI haka created by the MAORI people and spoken in MAORI.
Kerry222 8 months ago
@Kerry222 YES but if u had eyes u would see that the point i am trying to make is that the maori AND samoans are BOTH polynesian, and before u hit back with some retarded comment look it up and clamp it ffs
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K
I do see the point you're trying to make, but to me that is saying that all cultures who live in the greater part of Asia are the same, I don't think the Tibetans and Chinese would appreciate that.
Or would you like me to lump all those who live in the Americas in to the same group too?
Also I don't need to look it up because I am a Kiwi born and raised in New Zealand and I am, in fact, Maori. Hence my disapproval of the blatant over look my culture has been given.
Cheers.
Kerry222 8 months ago
@Kerry222 Maori and Samoan and any other Polynesian have the same exact DNA. They are the same exact people. Only difference is hundreds of years of separation and a few altercations to culture and language but thats it. You dont believe me why dont you do your damn homework and quit preaching lies about my race. Look up scientific DNA for Polynesian people. Why is it so hard for you ignorant trolls to understand? We are all 1 people, Polynesian.. So its perfectly fine, now go fuck yourself
TrueGreatness73 8 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
First of all is this the same person?
Secondly our DNA base or the physical attributes we share is besides the point. I never disagreed that we were once all one, I even stated that we share a common ancestor.
My issue was that something scared and what I as a Maori view as special has been taken and wrongly used.
Wither a Togan, Samoan or Hawaiian were to perform that haka and claim it as their cultures it would still hold the same problems with me.
Kerry222 8 months ago
@Kerry222 You said we "May" have the same ancestors which tells me your not sure and unaware. I also highly doubt your even Maori. There are tons of white people in New Zealand who claim to be of Polynesian heritage just because they live in Polynesia when they really are not. It is way better for any Polynesians to do the haka since they are the same people then for it to be some white people or any other race.
TrueGreatness73 8 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
In saying that I also know that the Uso were only doing what they were told by their employer and I hold nothing against the Samoan race.
Also, why are profanities and personal insults necessary? Something I will never understand about online 'debates'.
Kerry222 8 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
Furthermore, I'm out. It's only a YouTube video, not the end of the world and I regret wasting my time on this thread.
Enjoy life and wrestling.
K
Kerry222 8 months ago
@Kerry222 Nobody ever said they took it away from the Maoris. Nobody ever stated it belonged to them. Nobody ever intended it to harm Maoris. It was all out of respect to the overall Polynesian culture. The Haka goes all away back to when the Maoris were in the islands. The Marquesas still do it to this day. The only thing that separates Polynesians from one another is hundreds of years of separation and a few altercations with culture and language but thats it. DNA is the same. Polynesians r 1
TrueGreatness73 8 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 ? You've never been to NZ so what would you know. As for Maori and Samoan. They are related but as much as Maori are related to Scottish. Language and genealogy say that Maori are a different branch of people that are related to Samoan, Tongan and Hawaiian, but they didn't come from the same place.
btw, Polynesian is a Greek Word. If you knew that then you wouldn't be making such stupid assumptions. Samoans have their own war dance, Haka is a Maori word. Ha'a Hawaiian, etc.
hazza3 6 months ago 14
@hazza3 LMAO.. Dont talk about DNA because your dumb ass words dont match up with DNA. Polynesian is a greek word of course you dumb ass. The word Polynesian never existed until Europeans saw and decided to name them Polynesians. That just goes to show how dumb you are. Polynesian was a European invented word to describe us. I remember having so much arguments with your dumb wanna be Polynesian ass on here on youtube. Quit spreading lies dumb ass. Maori came from the islands dumb shit.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 You wanna try that with a little more comprehension. What you said doesn't make sense at all.
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@hazza3 Of course, that is my point. nothing makes sense to you dumb ass idiot.. Clean your mind out.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Well you wasted 500 chars saying the same thing with dumbass in each sentence. What you said doesn't make sense even for stupid people like your friends.
Was? Polynesian IS a Greek word and one fitting for Polynesia having all these islands. So you say, "Hate the white man" but then say "proud to be polynesian", that contradicts itself because you're using white man words to identify yourself. You might as well call yourself a Coconut. Stupid fat shithead Tongan wannabe Maori.
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@hazza3 Lets jump on Skype and we can discuss this face to face instead of typing. I also want to see if you are a real Polynesian or just one of those stupid white guys in New Zealand who thinks hes Maori and try going around telling people Maori is a white race not a Polynesian race..lol. I will record our discussion and upload it on youtube for the world to see your face and to see what ignorant lies you have to say... My Skype is "truegreatness73" I bet you refuse to jump on
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Wow, you're a loser.
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@hazza3 Yeah exactly. Quit thumbing yourself up with this and your troll account. I said we can skype and I can upload for the world to see our debate and you refuse which means you are just trolling. Piece of shit.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 You agree with me that you are a loser. Hah!
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@hazza3 Now you are just avoiding skype? LOL.. Anyone who reads our so called argument will know you are trolling thats why your channel is unavailable..lmao.. You are just a internet retard with a big mouth and no balls.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 How is Skype going to help? Whats wrong with MSN or Yahoo? Wow, you really are retarded. Is it because Tonga has never defeated New Zealand before right? Or do you hate your own culture and want Maori Culture.
hazza3 6 months ago
@hazza3 Skype is to show us debating for the world to see but you are too scared so we can end it right there.. Its easy to troll without the cam to see us debating is it? smh.. Its easy to talk the talk but can you walk it? Hell no
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73.... I've had a few arguments with this "hazza3" guy too about a few topics. And now I see the man is trying to separate Maori from other Polys by doing a lousy job getting others into believing that Maori are from a different people, lmao. It doesn't take a neurologist to figure out that Maori came from the other Polynesian islands BEFORE they arrived in NZ. It's terrible you had to come across this dunce, lmao. I'm an american Maori/Latino cross, btw.
insanelylogical 1 month ago
@insanelylogical Finally someone who knows the truth..lol.. Thank you. I thought it was common sense but common sense is not so common these days. I dont understand how people can be so ignorant yet have a lot to say. You know the truth. Peace and respect.. Good day :)
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insanelylogical 1 month ago
@insanelylogical I never said Maori were never Polynesian, I'm just saying that just because they're related, doesn't mean that Tongans and Samoans can just steal the Haka and say its theirs.
TrueGreatness73 btw, is a complete tool. He says he hates White people even though he's proud to be German...
hazza3 2 weeks ago
@hazza3, some Samoans and Tongans will use the Maori Haka. Maybe it's because they think of ours as being more intimidating then their own. That's how I look at it. I have no problem with a non Maori doing it, as long as it's done properly. I'm sure the other islanders would expect the same if non Islanders were to mimic their culture.
TrueGreatness73 is Tongan and German. And I only hate the bigoted white people.
But I despise the english for obvious reasons.
insanelylogical 2 weeks ago
@insanelylogical I know some Tongans and Samoans like to perform the Haka, and I like it when they do it, but I don't like how they say its theirs and just because they're Polynesian they think they can take anything despite Racial differences.
Its like calling a Japanese man a Korean and they both hate that. I have no problem with non Maori doing it as long as they do it right and give credit to the people who made that Haka.
TG73 is an idiot.
hazza3 2 weeks ago
@hazza3 , I try not to make a big deal about who is doing which, as long as they do it in a way that my ancestors would have approved. Also, I've seen TrueGreatness73 on other Haka videos defending all Polynesians, Maori included. He's all for Polynesian unity as I am. I can't stand to see other Polys fighting one another, esp on Youtube, but I know it's going to happen anyway, it can't be avoided. But those are the ignorant, uneducated ones. I noticed you've hidden your channel. Why?
insanelylogical 1 week ago
@insanelylogical TG73 has said a lot of racist comments towards Maori as well as Asian and Europeans who we can also be part of a big family.
If you consider yourself Polynesian, then you are also appealing to the ideals of Europeans which TG73 hates because Polynesian is a European word and also a way of categorizing people into a group the European way.
Dude, I have no idea how I hid my channel, and I have no idea how to make it public. Ill change it if I knew how to.
hazza3 1 week ago
@TrueGreatness73 hey just becuz ill skype you but not to argue wats ur skype ame ill add you so we can video chat
cutie103ifly 5 months ago
@hazza3 By the way I remember long ago when we talked about Maori race and you said you were Maori yet I looked on your channel and it said on your comment page that you were moving to New Zealand and you wanted to know more about Maori people and you also wanted to know if they were racist towards you.lmao. You are not even Maori.. You just bearable moved to new zealand and now you think you are Polynesian.. I am waiting for SKYPE.. Bet you too scared for the world to see you & your lies.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 ????? No....I've never said that at all lmfao. Are you sure its not one of the other people who know you're a dumbass wannabe. I am from New Zealand. I live in Whangarei, Nga Puhi.
You're not even Maori. Hell you're barely Tongan because apparantly, you're more proud of being a German than a Tongan.
What does skype have to do with anything?
hazza3 6 months ago 2
@hazza3 hey haz i dont completely agree with your comment that say maori are as closely related to scottish as they are to samoan.
fact of the matter is that were all polynesian n share a common ancestry. linguistics, ancient geneaological legends and even dna support that most pacific islanders are basically family.
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Unfortunately, Maori aren't listed as Pacific Islanders. Maori are related to Polynesian, even if it is just distant, but like Gaul to the Celts, Maori are a branch of Polynesian, but not directly related. The languages are similar but not that closely related to each between Maori group and Tongan group of Polynesian.
Think of them as 3rd Cousins who see each other but dont acknowledge it. Being related, doesn't mean one can steal the culture of the other.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 yes, my point was that maori ARE polynesian like most pacific islanders, NOT just a branch off; but more closely related to tongans, hawaiians, niueans etc.
now, thats completely different to being as closely related to scotts. whether or not u want to acknowledge it, what is, will always be set in history.
I still think these boys doing the haka is wack az tho lol
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Maori are practically first cousins with the Tahitians but they aren't closely related to the Tongan group. Like I said before, they're like Celts and Gaul and even the Hebrew and the Arabs. They're related, but as close as 3rd cousins.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 o yes i see, proto tahitic bloodlines from proto nuclear & central polynesia. guess u guys were more polynesian than you thought lol.
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet I wasn't using the Proto-Polynesian board which is about Languages, I was using the fact that Tongans had lived in the Pacific Islands longer than any other of the Polynesian groups and have relations with nearby Melanesians like the Fijians and the Kiribati(Both are Melanesian but have a strong Tongan mixture) Samoans and Hawaiians also have a strong Tongan Descent. The Maori, Rapa Nui and Tahitians had branched out eastwards.
They are related, but not closely.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 I dont see you where youre going with this as youre going off on a tangent, but my point was that maori are polys.
as for debating polynesian origins via legendary tales, theories n dna testing, those can go on forever... why? cause no one really knows for sure. it seems like every year someone from NZ, Asia and Europe claim to have found the link between polys, asians, melanesians, negroids and so forth.
all theories contradicting each other in many ways, so whats one to think
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet A branch of Polynesian, but not like the Tongan group of Polynesian. Like I said before, its the same relationship between Gaul and Celts, the Gaul being a branch of Celt but are racially and linguistically different. 3rd Cousins basically.
Origin of Polynesian varies. The main group, Tongan like Maori came from some points in Asia but they traveled at different points in time. So Maori could be Qin or Han while Tongans could be Manchurians or Hmong.
Different opinions I guess.
hazza3 5 months ago 3
@hazza3 Yes different opinions of course, however you cant say maori are not polynesians as even you declare that they are; and in no way closely related to celts or gauls.
the asian origin of polynesia is irrelevant as my point was the relation between maori and samoan being of polynesian descent.
so my friend, whether you like it or not, maori (or people who are now called maori) are polynesian people.
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Im not saying they're not Polynesian, Im saying they're a branch of them, technically a different group. AGAIN, just like how Gaul are related to Celts, but the Gaul are a different branch of Celt, basically a different race.
Or the Hebrew and the Arabs, both from the same group(Semitic) but both come from different branches and are not closely related, in fact they both hate each other.
The Asian Origin isn't irrelevant since modern and ancient orators believe in it.
hazza3 5 months ago
btw, just because you say somethin g, doesn't mean its true.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 maori are still polynesian, a branch of a tree is still the tree. I know gauls are closely related to the celts (also irrelevant), but referring to what your original post which i replied to, you said "As for Maori and Samoan. They are related but as much as Maori are related to Scottish"........ OBVIOUSLY you couldnt be more wrong.
Thats what I was on about. mentioning old european and asian lines is irrelevant since you went off an a tangent. thats all im saying
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Anda branch can fall off, especially when it joins another tree. Not irrelevant since its an example of what Im trying to say but you can't see it. Yes, Maori are related to Samoan as much as they are to Scots, because Samoans are a different branch. We may as well say that there are no separate races and only one human race.
Its not irrelevant to use other races as examples of branching, much like how Korean and Manchurians are Asian but are a different race.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 well if maori fell off the polynesian tree what is the other tree that its been grafted to? sorry mate but your comparison of maori being closely related to samoans as they are to scotts is like comparing a fox terrier dog to a polar bear. when clearly there are many terrier breeds such as bull, fox etc. which would make for a much more accurate comparison of polynesian races as samoans, tongans, tahitians etc.
if you think that maori are exclusive to all other races in the world......
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@hazza3 ....... remember that cook islanders and niueans are also classed as maori; are they then as exclusive as NZ maori?
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet I thought you said you were done. Niueans are listed as realated to Hawaiians more than Maori. Cook and Tahitians are closer related to the Maori. You're not even trying to understand.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 yes but they are "niuean maori" and "cook island maori"... dont ask me i didnt give them that name. i am trying to understand your point of view, but I gather youre implying maori are a completely different breed of ppl.... of course still part of the poly family, as are all the different races under the poly umbrella.
forgive me mate, i dont mean any offense, but just trying to get my point across that sams & maori are closer related than scotts.
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Niuean aren't called MAori, the only other Polynesians called MAori are the Cook Islanders and thats because they were recruited in the 3rd Maori Reinforcement Platoon going to Egypt.
Samoans are more like 3rd cousins. We know we both exist, we just don't like it. I've explained it several times already but you've ignored it.
hazza3 5 months ago
@hazza3 well then my friend who is full niuean has a faulty passport calling him niuean maori.
even if it is 3rd cousins or 5th cousins, theres no way you could be closer related to scotts than other polys. thats my point.
Leweyjet 5 months ago
@Leweyjet Dude, you're actually taking that comment seriously? That was a joke saying that Maori aren't that closely related to Samoans.
The Passport isn't meant to have your race, its for nationality and mine says New Zealander. Your friends passport should say Niuean.
hazza3 5 months ago
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@hazza3 Polynesians are genetically the same people with very similar cultures and language. What is wrong with other Polynesians using it?? Polynesian being a greek word has nothing to do with that whole nation being 1 people long ago. Please go back and look at DNA studies. They are 1 people. What does Polynesian being a greek word have to do with anything? 14 idiots thumbs you up but you have 2 highest comments and your channel is unavailble so I take it you are trolling.. LMAO fail!!
00GameReviews 3 months ago
@00GameReviews One people? Oh so I guess the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese are all one people along with Indians a ndKhmer people and the all share teh same culture and language. Oh but thats right, their languages and cultures and genetics are completely different despite being ASIAN. Maori and Polynesians are RELATED, not the same people, Do wish to be Maori so you can claim the Haka, don't you have one of your own? Don't steal other peoples cultures, Poaka.
Unavailable how?
hazza3 3 months ago 18
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@hazza3 DNA does not lie. DNA does not lie. Did I mention DNA does not lie? I am not talking about culture. I am talking about DNA. Did I mention DNA?? Keep trolling
00GameReviews 3 months ago
@00GameReviews You said something about DNA but you never backed it up because DNA says the Maori came from Asia. Because DNA said it, DNA from PROFESSIONAL DNA experts who study the DNA of people with DNA that relates the the subject of DNA. DNA. DNA. I said DNA. Your mother has DNA. Whores DNA.
Yes, you keep on trolling like your German friend there.
hazza3 3 months ago 7
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@hazza3 if you think anyone is going to take you serious and call peoples mothers a whore and have your channel on block and go around to every Polynesian video speaking hate towards other Polynesians supporting only maori is going to gain you respect then guess what? You are a troll. Culture has nothing to do with DNA but of course your bigoted mind never knew that. I bet your parents taught you that. Shame on them.
00GameReviews 3 months ago
@00GameReviews DNA Unlike culture, DNA changes over a length of time. Genes can shift and alter and break and reanew. Maori and Polynesians are related, but they are not the same people. I know because I AM FROM NZ AND EVERYONE WHO IS MAORI AND POLYNESIAN KNOWS IT. You're an idiot and ignorant. You're from the US so you like to think everyone is the same, thats bullshit. My channel is private because freaks like you and your friend keep stalking me, you people are ignorant.
hazza3 3 months ago 6
People like you hate the ideals of others. Thats what makes you ignorant.
hazza3 3 months ago 5
@Kerry222 i see u got stuck in an arguement about these 2 doing tha haka, i have gotten the same problem from another video... i noticed u from NZ so i guess why we think so differently from these guys lol
funakiexpress 7 months ago
@funakiexpress Yeah... I know I'm right, not in a "Nah you're wrong and I'm right!!" sorta way. But I know I am right because I was educated in an all Maori school and I know the history, both scientific and mythological, so I don't really care if someone thinks that I am wrong :)
They've change their intro now anyway, they must have copped slack for doing it or they didn't pay the copyrights hahaha
Kerry222 7 months ago
@Lou134K no, it is not technically Samoan, it's in Maori for fucks sake. This particular Haka is 100% Maori, if you knew the history of this particular Haka you would know that. There is nothing whatsoever Samoan about this. Stick to what you know mate.
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@DieRuggedManDie ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO COMMENT ON YOUTUBE FUCKING RETARDED (with all due respect) the maori AND the samoans are BOTH i repeat BOTH, one more time, BOOOOOOOOOOOTH polynesian, ffs its like explaining something to a 2 year old, they BOTH have their own Haka's (and only 7% of them are war dances), so one more time just for all u people with low iq's, THEY....... ARE...... BOTH........ FUCKING....... POLYNESIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K it doesn't matter if they are both polynesian you clown. SMH seriously.
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@DieRuggedManDie fuck me u are so fucking retarded ffs u dont even know what ur talking about, ur obviously just arguing for the sake of it and just to rub ur face in it, my dad is from new zealand and his parents are both polynesian u stupid motherfucker, why the fuck do u think im trying to put this point across?, cos non-polynesian fuckwits like u dont know what the fuck their talking about and try to act as if they have extensive knowledge of polynesians when really they know FUCK ALL
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K no, I do know what I'm talking about. I don't give a fuck if your dad is from New Zealand, I too am from New Zealand, I'm from Hawkes Bay, I now live in Auckland and I am Maori you fucking idiot Ngati Kahungunu So again, stick to what you know retard instead of thinking you are giving me a lesson in my culture and my upbringing. I'm not arguing for the sake of it, I'm arguing because we have clowns like you in America thinking they know it all about a Maori Haka
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@Lou134K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA u think im american HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA excuse me but im not obese, im actually scottish and have been since i moved from Tauranga, Aotearoa, when i was 3, and ur even more retarded than i thought, u just lied that u are maori u fucking sad loser ffs get a grip of ur life honestly mate, u gave it away with the "america" line, u really are a loser, kidding on to be something ur not and dont bother replying cos i dont talk to lying scumbags like u
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K why would I lie about being Maori? are we not supposed to be on computers or something? or is it because I have better English than you that I surely couldn't be Maori? again, Ngati Kahungunu, what you know about that Mr Tauranga? If you were born in New Zealand you would have said that earlier instead of "my dad is from new zealand" you would have said "I am from New Zealand", not my fault that you come across as another know it all American talking about things he doesn't understand.
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
@Lou134K
You're just tragic.
I mentioned before that I was Maori, but I am also a 1/4 Scottish through my Father.
Does this give me the right to claim all knowledge on your culture ? Should I hunt down a gross misrepresentation of something from your culture and shit all over it with misspelling and poor grammar so I can feel a part of something important?
Fair enough if you wish to claim heritage to a country as awesome as NZ, but don't be offended if we don't want you.
Kerry222 8 months ago
@Lou134K Your exactly right and dont even waste your time on that faggot. Hes not even Polynesian. He thinks just because you live in Polynesia (New Zealand) you are Polynesian but I told him you have to have the blood to be Polynesian. I also told him Maori Samoan Tongan ect are all Polynesian and have the same exact DNA make up yet he was too retarded to know. Hes not even Polynesian. I asked him to go on skype with me and lets record our debate and to show his face and he refused..lmao
TrueGreatness73 8 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 EXACTLY thank you, its good to see there are some people left in this world that actually have proper knowledge of the points they are trying to make, cheers mate
Lou134K 8 months ago
@Lou134K seriously, are you Maori? no, so shut the fuck up and stop worrying about things that you don't understand.
DieRuggedManDie 8 months ago
ok dis is straight offencive...first of all their not doing the actions right, their pronunciation of the words are way off, its a maori haka not a polyneisan haka and lastly they are samoans, they should be doing the samoan war dance not the maori haka.
HalfManHalfRavishing 8 months ago 3
What the f**k is this shit. A haka is Maori not Samoan & they don't even look samoan. This is ridiculous you should remove it before everyone else in New Zealand complains & gets you blocked
otakuhanga 8 months ago
what a shit
whoisjuliano 8 months ago