rotary hydrogen car mazda

[itsadeadmansparty]

Let me ask, During a Single Rotary cycle, couldnt you reignite the uncombusted gasoline during its revolution? It sounds only logical with a properly tuned and remachined Rotary engine you could travel at near 100-200 mpg. Anyone with a clue to how Stan Myers got the Ionized gases to ignite using lasers? How did he exactly make the water car

[tgcsystems]

My understanding is that the main complaint against rotary power plants is the large amount of unspent fuel it passes as waste. It seems rotary is ideal for a fuel as neutral as hydrogen. Unspent hydrogen doesn't remain hydrogen very long in the atmosphere. It almost immediately bonds for H2O.

The main gripe with hydrogen cells and batteries are the waste products. The entire power cell device and contents are toxic consumables. You cannot deny that.

+ A switch to Hydrogen may cure cancer...

[Bugstomper2]

@tgcsystems I don't know about their wasted fuel issue, but, "the main complaint against rotary power plants" for manufacturers is that they last a long time, compared to four cylinder enginges, or even V6 or V8 engines. They don't like this.

[Bugstomper2]

Hydrogen fuel is supposed to be 10 times more powerful than gas. So I was thinking a new era in muscle cars would be happening in the future. Yet all the stuff I hear about hydrogen cars in the news is that they are not as powerful as gas cars. Why is that?

[astrialkil]

@Bugstomper2 Hydrogen is low therms kinda like propane. Propane works , just not a lot of horse power.

[TarnishedMedia66]

this is retarded the way hydrogen works in cars is through a power cell not by combustion even though you can use it that way its more efficient to do it like we are currently working on

[astrialkil]

@TarnishedMedia66 Negative! Fuel cells dont last long. This will work till the Materials scientists figre out fuel cells in 50 years.

[guevodeplomo]

i want to peripheral port that bad boy 

[bazookatim]

Rotary engine is the most beautiful pice of engineering i have seen. It does it all in one turn. suck feul in, compress, ignite, push exhaust out. And if it works with hydrogen its great.

[JuanPapaNicolao]

Hello MPG

[kassenz]

@JuanPapaNicolao

Hydrogen gets 60 miles to the tank

[JuanPapaNicolao]

@kassenz MPT :)

[astrialkil]

@kassenz LOL that's good enough to get me to work and the store. If i can refill at home from solar thermal produced hydrogen then it would cost me $10 per 3,000 gal of water and nothing for the solar other then buying it up front every 20 years. At $5000 up front cost over 20 years is $250 per year to produce the hydrogen. Not bad. Im spending about $120 a month on gas. 2 months gas $220 or one years hydrogen $250, which would you want?

[suzukirizla11]

wankel

[astrialkil]

@suzukirizla11 All the youngsters think you misspelled a cuss word. Too bad no one remembers the inventor, its like the TV , who remembers him?

[suzukirizla11]

@astrialkil there's a legend about the inventor of TV.. he's called NIkola Tesla. It's unbelivable I know.. because I think we're talking of 1920s. I think nobody undersood his wiseness. p.s sorry for my english :(

[PrescriptionSeven]

the 16x rotary will be great.

[CatalinDestiny]

OK,so what? What is the most harmless to us and world fuel/energy/gas that car can run with???????????????????

[lee5537]

The oil companys pour millions of gallons of water down their oil wells every year, to recover more oil. And that water is gone forever. All the oil companys care about is how to gouch the motorist, and make tens of billions in profit. That is one reason why we need clean energy, The reason we don't have this now is because, it's all politics.

[SpideyFan6010]

The Rotary is on it's way to being more fuel efficient. I am pretty sure it still need to burn oil in the combustion camber though but at least it is Hydrogen powered :)

[W1ldSm1le]

If they were using ceramic internals potentially you could just use water for lubrication.

[SpideyFan6010]

True but Ceramic Internals have their limits as well and I still think over time you would eventually need a rebuild. I don't know too much about them and the benefits that they offer so I am just speaking my mind. If you could send me a message explaining what you mean in further detail I would appreciate it.

[turbodr3am]

finally i find a hydrogen fuel video where i can post a comment. i find it important that we have clean fuel to power the cars because cars is very important in daily life, but i thought of a problom. i live in Colorado, USA. every year where we dont have enoght snow, we wont have enoght water to water the grass, and there are billion of cars in the world if am not wrong. is there enoght water to power all the cars? am pretty sure i got my facts right that hydrogen is made from water.

[benthekahn]

A little water makes a lot of hydrogen and oxygen gas. Once the gas is burned, it turns into water again.

[crogaita]

Hey, 70% of my planet is water. AND LESS THAN 1% IS PETROLEUM. We have about 2.0030713784e+24 US gallon of water in our planet, that CAN be filtered to drink! Have you ever heard "In nature nothing is lost, everything is transformed". when using petroleum, you transform petroleum to Carbon Dioxide THAT KILLS YOU, and the transformation finishes there, with hydrogen, you transform water, to hydrogen, and then back to water again. No offence, nothing personal, but why are people so dumb?

[Mechness]

So how do you transform water to hydrogen in the first place? Currently by burning fossil fuels. Hydrogen is just a toy, not a fuel. And you ask why people are dumb... carbon dioxide does not kill you.

[crogaita]

It´s a REDOX reaction, its the easiest thing to do, and you don´t need to burn any fuels, try some research... hydrogen is a toy? LOL, no comment to that... If you have as little as 5% of CO2 in the air you breathe, your blood pressure will rise, you will get get dizzy and confused, have a headache, and have difficulty in breathing. It CAN kill you just by being there, if in the right ammount. CO2 and CO are the major causes of global warming.. Can´t that kill you?......

[kave999]

technically we need carbon dioxide to live.... trees absorb carbon dioxide and release oxygen. pay attention in biology next time around.

[crogaita]

You also need food to live, right? What if someone obligates you to eat more that you are prepared to? Like 10000 times more than you can eat, could you take all that food? Of course CO2 is part of the planet, but the trees are only prepared to filter the CO2 that animals naturaly put in the atmosphere.

[Mechness]

Trees happily use CO2 from anywhere. They don't care where it's from. CO2 is poisonous in high concentrations, but even if we burnt all the fossil fuels in the world, atmospheric CO2 still wouldn't be high enough topoison us.

Hydrogen doesn't occur naturally on Earth in its free state. You have to use energy to get it. Therefore hydrogen isn't a fuel. It's just a way of storing energy. It's more efficient to just use the original fuel.

Hydrogen cars are not useful without nuclear fusion.

[W1ldSm1le]

If the electricity from say solar panels was used to make hydrogen you would essentialy be replacing batteries with hydrogen. Batteries currently have only slightly more effeciancy then the standard of electrolysis for isolating hydrogen. There are ways of getting hydrogen without electricity, (Gallium-Alumnium composite) which have incredible effeciency. Hydrogen is a perfect fuel because it wouldnt require a paradigm shift in how we use our vehicles.

[Mechness]

I can't agree. Batteries can be over 95% efficient over a charge/discharge cycle.  Hydrogen can't compete with that for either production or combustion, let alone both combined. That is even if you ignore the energy required to compress the hydrogen. The main problem with batteries is they are bulky and expensive, but so are hydrogen fuel cells. And hydrogen would require a whole new distribution network to be established from scratch. We already have electrical distribution grids in place.

[W1ldSm1le]

First off id like to point out i dont advocate hydrogen I.c.e.s. I advocate catalyst electric. Hydrogen cells are terribly expensive i wont argue that but currently you cant carry 300+ miles of electricity in a vehicle, hell you cant carry 100 miles of it, then it takes hours and hours to recharge it. Electric vehicles would require we change how we use/think about vehicles. Hydrogen vehicles are the perfect replacement because in terms of practicality they are the same as our current vehicles.

[itsadeadmansparty]

@W1ldSm1le Also please dont forget Lithium deuteride can store high amounts of Hydrogen very very very safely. Please share on the Gallium-Aluminium method. Do you heat the Gallium to release the hydrogen or do you use another method to release the already stored/charged gallium,LOL BTW Did you know your computer could go a million times faster if the microprocessors only used Gallium Arsenide?LOL They discovered a long time ago that it would process data in the 10 Terahertz Cycles.Yes Terahertz

[W1ldSm1le]

@itsadeadmansparty The gallium and aluminium are alloyed. The gallium doesn't allow the aluminium to build up a passive layer allowing it to oxidize very, very rapidly in any water releasing large amounts of hydrogen in the process. Nothing is used up in the process except the energy used to alloy the two metals.

[itsadeadmansparty]

@W1ldSm1le I have one more question for you, Have you ever heard about a scientist in a small village in Switzerland who invented a device known as testatika? I have seen many of these in photos, many of them built, The inventor wouldnt let anyone reverse engineer it, but they had a group of scientist's test the machine on one occasion. They claimed it generated 200+ watts of electricity, since your very smart, what is your opinion of the testatika,since i dont believe in the laws of thermodynam

[PineappleOranges]

Personally, I think we should drive electric cars powered by miniature fusion reactors!

[NamelessFTW]

why would you want to replace gasoline with hydrogen?

the whole poitn of hydrogen was to use it in a fuel cell to provide electric current to motors, not as a combustible fuel.

[Darkfoster22]

Becuase Hydrogen burn 100% clean and like 40 times faster.Also you can burn Hydrogen learn in a engine.That means engine wood run 40-60% longer.But Hydrogen today is not clean becuase how we get it.90% comes from Oil & gas just like gasoline.

[cr1tterp0wer]

so they can setup Hydrogen gas stations and still make a profit off of it. H2= new gasoline. and they are selling their product with words like, 100% clean environment, cheap, etc. (not that all those things are bad, its just the fact they are trying to make profit of off fuel we can obtain from water!).

[Teufel916]

The problem is hydrogen combustion is it requires hydrogen in liquid state versus fuel cells that take it in gaseous form. So if any infrastructure is built for hydrogen combustion vehicles it would not transfer over to fuel cell technology. Plus hydrogen in a liquid state is far more dangerous to transport, keep, and burn then hydrogen gas.

[dakiro222]

From what I know is that storing of liquid gasses includes the need for controlled release of the substances. Hydrogen is SMALL - the smalles atoms so it will seep even through metal (very slowly) the other thing is that as it heats, it expands. You can't isolate it completety so you will have to slowly release it in order to cool/decrease the pressure.

[eltabby]

i'm not sure about hydrogent... it needs to be kept at -152 celsius to preserve its liquid state; as a gas, it wouldn't give too much power/ l of gas so you couldn't go verry far... please corect me if i am wrong

[Darkfoster22]

−423.17 °F or −252.87°C

Hydrogen has tons more power then gasoline.

But your right about how far you can go not far with today tanks.

[premiermc]

this is a wankel motor

[heyoh132]

thank the government and auto companies for make these cars seem more complicated then they are.

[mitoponce007]

I agree any joe could make a hho generator

I've done it my self its on demand with no storage requierd one easy problem is it over

heats like a coffee pot but with a ac cooler

and a vapor separator like a destiller tech

available right now it shouldn't be a problem

and a easy two gallon cell could power a v8

with no problem and in freezing temps just

keep it running or take the cell with you.

[kombatseries]

Hydrogen is highly explosive, imagin being hit from behind at 60-70 km. The cars would explode.

[dakiro222]

hydrogen is not explosive at all. Mixture of hydrogen and oxygen (air will do it too) is very explosive.

I very much doubt it would explode, the problems have more to do with -efficient- storage and transport as well as distribution.

[SpydermanGST]

You my friend are an idiot. Hydrogen is very combustible. Any dumbass would know that oxygen is required for any combustible reaction. Try to start a fire in a vacuum. Good luck! Think about it, what would happen if oxygen was not in the comustion chamber in an engine? Nothing! Why do you think when your air filter gets clogged your car is acts funny? I guess the darn hydrocarbon octane (gasoline) isn't what's combustible. Shucks....

[BarneySaysHi]

Hydrogen itself gives a nice flame when lit, but combine it with oxygen or air and you've got one heck of a BANG when lit. As long as it's stored in a crashproof cell not much can happen.

[abeldodd]

lpg is highly explosive seems to work fine

[dakiro222]

partly true - hydorgen only BURNS when combined with oxygen (as everything else) what you mean is that a Mixture of H and air is very combustible. Hence, the storage and combustion must be controlled.

[mfitz73]

Ummm Hydrogen gas is lighter then air.

If you are hit from behind and there is a leak, the gas would shoot straight up faster then you could blink your eyes.... unlike gasoline that would fall to the ground, splash and burn whatever it touched.

[Super73VW]

this is exactly what Ive been telling people!! It would exit the vessel at such high velocities it would blow out any flames from other sources, and by the time it was disbursed enough to light it would be well above the vehicle!

[abeldodd]

well lpg is highly explosive, seems to work

or nos

[zekeandcharlie]

I have one question. Who's making the profits? Well....2 questions. What's the difference between filling up with H2 and getting a converter so the car can run on water? Wouldn't water make our cars run free, so to speak.

[nonsoundflux]

Except for the fact that rotary engines are renowned for burning oil, this would be a good idea. That, and the fact that HHO is 70% less combustible than fuel, so you're using 3x more AND burning oil. Why are we trying to refine a combustion engine?

[magifesq]

Hydrogen stoichiometry is 34 parts of air to 1 part oxygen - much more efficient than gasoline.

[nonsoundflux]

You're missing the point magifesq. Stoichiometry is based on combustion effectiveness, not power. You can compress and ignite citronella oil and create an explosion... but using JP-5 jet fuel in the same scenario, your explosion is greater. The BTU rate of your fuel compound is what determines the joules output of a chemical mixture, which is converted to watts and then to horsepower.

[magifesq]

Ok you may be right in that respect, however straight electrolysis is not the only way to convert water to HHO - there's microwaves, sound frequencies, electronic pulses, exteme heat, and more. Many of these ways would take less electricity.

[helzefeld]

Yep sound and high frequency low amperage pulses are the best and most efficient ways to get hydrogen fuel from water.

[msdnvp]

Stanley Meyers got killed

[sidstar89]

yeh i wonder why stanley meyers got killed? and i wonder why kennedy and martin L king got killed too

[mixcatcom]

Awesome motor! I run a Hydrogen boost car directly from water. I have plans and videos under my profile. Check out my vids too.

You can convert your car!

-Pete

[joesaya]

yes thay will rust quite fast but u can seal the metel or ceramic lineing. hho gas is oxygen/hydrogen mix but its not water per say not in the combined manner of two hydrogen one oxygen when ignited combineds the h and o to h2o sry for my spelling

[illkillyou]

thats edward scissorhands music in the background...i like it all already.

[BirdValiant]

I wonder if it would rust quickly...

[izeman458]

Is this a joke? HHO gas= H2O gas =steam and the steam engine was invented 200+ years ago.

[Rikko40]

HHO (or brown's gas) is not the same as H2O (water) because the oxygen and hydrogen molecules are separated (and not heated like steam). HHO is combustable and will burn in a standard internal combustion engine with water as a by-product. HHO can be created from water by adding a little sodium hydroxide and putting and electric current through it.

[skeeterb2006]

The Stanley Meyer line of though. HHO on demand would keep the rotary engine humming

[Hitokiri2000]

This is a Vankel Engine i didn't think they could run on hydrogen prolly enhanced very awesome indeed

[NanetteW]

Hitokiri,

Why do you think not, please?

Arigato

[Opinaca]

the concept is simple..it's working..it's great...but the hard thing is to supply hydrogen gas as needed....hard to find at some places! There's not much production plan yet....Windmill hydrogen generation would be the cheapest way to produce.

[nonsoundflux]

Why? Windmills produce a hell of a lot more electricity than they do Hydrogen. I hope you're all aware that this is going to be run by exxon and regulated just like gas prices...

[Opinaca]

Producing Hydrogen (electrolysis)is highly energy consuming and Windmills are a renewable source of capturing natural energy, a way of dropping the costs of production. But Sure, all the conversion apparatus costs must be considered and amortized on the long term.

[nonsoundflux]

probably the first response I haven't disagreed with on this subject.

[radiumrx]

where is your reasearch to back up your statment? look up stan meyer

[Opinaca]

No need for research...Stan Meyer's concept is against laws of physics...you can't retrieve more energy than you put in a system or else it would be perpetual motion  wich is impossible.

[69elyankee69]

What are you talking about Stan Meyers concept has create a vehicle that is running and works and also there is electric cars that dont obey the laws that you say but exist even if they are very costly... So I think that posting negative comments while having proof infront of your face is foolish and demeaning...

[dakiro222]

if something doesn't obey the laws it means that it doesn't work. If it works it means we don't know exactly how it is being done. The laws in question are written not because of common consent but because for all the history of science nobody has contradicted them. It's not something you can wriggle out of by closing your eyes to it.

[sidstar89]

i dont think perpetual motion machines has anything to do with hydrogen cars...its a completely different topic. But yeh perpetual motion machines are impossible (for now)...we are just waiting for another einstein to be sent down. Who knows whats possible?

[DrBongWater]

If it's so energy consuming then why are direct water injection (with plasma ignition) hydrogen cars getting 300mpg on straight water? That's with the alternator charging two lead acid batteries which are divided betweeen conventional ignition and a 110vac@20amp inverter to mix with the conventional 35,000 volt@.06 amp spark?

[ggf4]

Dude, if it saves me some green at the pump. I DONT GIVE A SHIT. i think most can agree on that. like others have said, look up Stan Meyers, genius.

[cfootball10]

Stanley Meyers could supply your HHO needs

[ryanhurley]

why fill it with high pressure? no onboard electrolosis go look at the hydrostar.

[chacal3001]

wow.. just wow... hydrogen rotary engine.. thats mazda for you i like the idea

[mi777ke777]

This things probably a beast on the street..1