if your wings get bent but not partly torn off on one of the arrows will they still fly the same as one that hasnt got a bent wing? plz reply someone thx
@MrGunsmith29 As your vanes get worn and wrinkled there will be small changes in the flight of the arrows. For broadhead tuning I would recommend only using good straight fletching.
how about you all quit crying about your compounds (not a real bow). pick up a real traditional all wood bow and shoot. if you match the grains of your points it wont matter what you shoot. if your skill and instinct is any good you wont miss... especially at 20yrds.. i shoot a 68in all wood longbow with 50ilb draw. i practice at 40 yrds and i dont even have to deal with all the "tuning"...
bows shouldn't need to be tuned.... you should be tuned to shoot.
They dont fly the same because of plaining. Wind, drag and pressures come into effect with broadheads. i hate how people post shit on youtube that is incorrect although this video does have some useful archery knowledge. And for godsake man video record your form and perfect it before you post a video teaching others how to injure their rotator cup. im not trying to troll just sick of bullshit tutorials lol good hunting to you
@GOOBTUBE1 You are correct that they don't fly the same because of PLANING, wind and drag. The latter two there is not much that can be done, except to change to lower profile heads. The first however is where a properly tuned bow comes into effect. If your bow is tuned properly, and your heads spin true the effects of planing are nil. As for my form, I realize it's not perfect. This video is not a tutorial on form issues but rather a tutorial on tuning your bow. Happy hunting!
@agkranackandy Sorry, I don't know anything about crossbows or the adjustments available on them. I would imagine however that if they have adjustments similar to those on a compound bow this process should work.
@YOUareALLasleep Nope, clean miss. Play the vid on full screen and you can see that it misses by several inches. Arrow was recovered and did not have any "deer matter" on it.
So if I i move the rest down then what becomes of my knocking point? Do I also have to move that down to keep er' shooting straight and paper tuned? Also I'm shooting carbon express maxima hunters out of my 70 lb DXT is that too light of a spine for that poundage? And if it is, is it going to be impossible to broadhead tune this bad boy? Enough questions yet? :)
@torquesoul11 If you move your rest down you do not need to move your knocking point at all. If you have already paper tuned you should not need to move anything very far. Make sure the increments you do move things are very small. As far as your arrow selection, you will want to make sure that your total arrow weight is 5gn or more per lb of pull you have your bow set for. So, if you have your bow set to 70lb, you will want at least a 350gn arrow. If your too light you may void your warranty
I agree 100% but like you stated about the other things that can affect the flight, well I would do the following, check my form then vance clearance and the last thing i would do is adjust the arrow rest.
if u move the rest wont the field points shoot differently also? i dont understand how moving the rest wont impact the accuracy of the field point as well. it's just like moving the sight. if my field point is dead center, and i move the rest, it wont be dead center anymore
@Zajac587 You are correct that your field points will move as well. They key however is that they will not move as much as the broadheads. The point of broadhead tuning is to get your broadheads and field points hitting the same location. When you have accomplished that, it is easy to adjust your sights to get back on target. I hope this explanation helps and thank you for watching the video.
@Zajac587 your field points are way more forgiving than your broadheads are. That is why manufacturers continually decrease the surface area of broadheads. So when you move your rest you are having a greater effect on your broadhead than on your field point. I've heard that competition 3D shooters tune their bows the same way as in the video to ensure the best precision out of their fieldpoints!
@Skinnerc1129 Yes! The process will not work at all if you wear any other type of footwear. We should have pointed that out in the video and I'm sorry we did not do so. Thank you for pointing it out. Thanks for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed it.
@verminhunter7 As you move back and change your rest the increments you change your rest in will become very small. These very small changes will only help to continue fine tuning the closer ranges.
I'm glad that I saw this. My broadheads are hitting low about 1-1/2 ", but very consistently. Now I'm looking forward to getting both the field points and broadheads hitting the same spot, followed by sight adjustments. I always thought that that if I paper tuned the setup, all would be good, but that's not the case for me. Thanks!
How do you fix this? If my field point hit the bullseye but the broadhead hit 2-3 inches on the right. If the broadhead hit right in the bullseye then the field point will hit 2-3 inches on the left. So, which one should I adjust it? the Sight or the Rest? or how do you make them hit the same spot. After view your video still confuse. I'm talking about 30 yards. Thanks
@whatsbetterinlife move your rest to the left a small amount (try 1/32" to start). There could also be an issue with your form, so keep that in mind if some small adjustments in your rest are not helping or make it worse.
@buckmenoutdoor As you move to longer ranges you will be moving your rest in smaller and smaller increments. Think of it as fine tuning. When done at longer ranges you can test your tune at short range again to give yourself peace of mind... but everything should be good. After tuning re-adjust your sights and have fun hunting.
@buckmenoutdoor As long as the magnus heads spin test true, you can tune your bow to shoot them. I mention this because I have seen some inexpensive magnus heads not spin true and thus they were impossible to get good flight out of. You are correct we were shooting muzzy 3 blades (1 3/16" dia).
@cdavet24 It depends on the type of rest you have. My Ripcord has the ability to be adjusted up and down. The other option you have is to move your nocking point the opposite direction. Hope this helps.
@marinescoutsniper11 Yeah, they are junk. That's why we used them to show a broad head that does not spin straight. We just grabbed one from the package and screwed it on. Didn't even need to "look" for one.
@redneck4lifeish I used to shoot them too. They did fly great but I only had them cause I was low on cash at the beginning of the season. I never had a chance to shoot anything with them but they look alright. I now shoot the Muzzy 125grain
Paper tuning can get nock and rest close to where they need to be, but slight imperfections that are not perceiveable in the paper pass-through can still exist. The method in this video has been my method of perfecting arrow flight for a long time.
If you can paper tune to a *perfectly* circular pass-through, then perhaps you don't need to fine tune using your broadheads. You'll need some type of multiple-axis scanning laser coordinate measuring machine to verify circularity.
@extremehunting ok its called paper tuning. thats it. paper tuning moves your rest to the perfect alignment of your nocking point and rest. by moving your rest your causing your arrow to fishtail and completely untuning your bow because the arrow alignment is not straight. thats why u shoot 3 inch groups at 20 yards and im a member of KND Outdoors pro staff. AKA Im on a archery team. I think i know what im talking about.
@jbm4551 Do you also believe everything you read on the internet and watch on TV? Sorry to break it to you but paper tuning is not the end all beat all method of tuning. It does get your bow close... but not perfect. By the way, thanks for listing where you represent, now I know not be believe anything related to KND Outdoors.
@extremehunting y? because your so ignorant to the fact that what your doing in this video and telling people to do is untuning their bow and making them less accurate and less consistent? no your wrong the entire purpose of tuning a bow is to make it shot as straight as possible. you are doing the exact opposite of that, you are making the arrow flight wobbly and there for its going to be inaccurate and inconsistent!! anyone whos knows anything about bows can tell you that.
@jbm4551 It's sad that you think you know what your talking about. You continue to make personal attacks and spew incorrect information. The basis of your claim is that we are un-tuning bows. Unfortunately for you that is not true. If you read the title of our video it is Broadhead TUNING! We are not demonstrating paper tuning or walkback tuning or any other type of tuning we are demonstrating broadhead TUNING. If you don't like broadhead tuning that's fine. Don't watch our video!
@extremehunting thatsthe whole point ur not tuning anything. if your rest and nock point are not aligned your bow is not tuned! its not shooting straight. the definition of tuning is to adjust (a motor, mechanism, or the like) for proper functioning. if your nock point and rest are not aligned then your arrows isnt flying straight and is NOT functioning properly. so its NOT tuned!
@jbm4551 EXACTLY! Paper tuning will not get things perfect. It is a good starting point, but if you want it to be perfect you need to complete broadhead tuning. it will show you what small adjustments you still need to make to get it tuned perfectly. Glad your starting to get it!
@extremehunting no your really an idiot if you think that last statement was agreeing with you. i just stated how you are not tuning your bow you are still untuning it. you really must be a moron
@extremehunting to make it easier for you to understand. tuning is when something is working properly. by misaligning ur rest your bow isnt working properly
This is actually really easy, I did it in about 10 minutes! By the way, if you put anything on your rest to silence it, i.e. moleskin, check your accuracy before going to the field, otherwise, you may miss that "once in a lifetime" deer!
I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do
I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do.
So basically you are throwing your bow out of tune by moving your rest based on where your broadhead impacted in comparison to your field point. This isn't the right way to "tune" your bow for broadheads. Even if your broadheads group better with your field points with this method, the arrows will lose KE and penetration because they will be fishtailing and porpoising so much (depending on how much you moved your rest out of tune)!
@krabsnkrinkles you are assuming that a bow is "tuned" before doing this. Let me ask you this, by what standard would you call a bow "tuned"? You say, "this isn't the right way to "tune" your bow for broadheads." Can you please elaborate on what you would call the "right" way to tune for broadheads?
@extremehunting I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do
Thanks guys. My friend has these issues with his hoyt he bought last year and he is not happy with it. He wants to be able to shoot deer with the broad heads and squirrels with the field point like I do when I get tired of waiting. we will try this and get back with you. I changed last year to a Mathews and love it.
@biggoofybastard Thankfully this isn't a porno so our acting doesn't need to be on such a high level. Hope you enjoyed the video and have a great season.
Hey man im buying a set of 125 gr glue on heads with 125 gr inserts and set of XX75 game getters, im using a tradtioinl bow, but i got a Bear 60# lbs compound bow, no rest, needs one and needs to change the string, can you recomend any good rests and sights?
hey that blue broadhead that you guys spin tested in the video, got it from walmart huh? i seen it at wally world and was thinking of getting a pack... how good are they?
@golfer15963 I don't think we got it at Walmart, but I do believe they carry them. I would not recommend them. As you can see the one in the video did not spin test straight and we just grabbed it at random.
@extremehunting i got a few of them (at least they look like) from ebay. 2x3 for 5$, you get what you pay for. had to "push" some them to get them straight (made in china)
paired with xx75 gamegetter, some bad groups (30cm) at 30m, some good 10cm.
lol terrible acting lol but goot tips and helped me! hey im from MN and live near vapor trail co. in ham lake and i drive by there lot and the huge garage type building that says vaportrail on google maps looks deserted and theres nothing going on in that building! do you have any idea whats with that place nowadays?
@golfer15963 Sorry, I haven't kept up with them, and my strings are holding up great, so I haven't needed another set. This is their street address from their website. 1333 154th Ave. NE; Ham Lake, MN 55304
Ohh so pretty much if you move the rest 1 click (just saying) then the broadhead will move 2 clicks when shot and the fieldpoint will only move 1click when shot.So Eventually they become closer together wether its a broadhead or fieldpoint right?
So when you noticed that your broadhead was shooting low and left of your field tips, you moved the rest up and to the right to move the broadheads... But your field tip arrows didn't move up and to the right with it...??? You make no sense... Tune for broadheads only... test with field tip after to see how far off they shoot... Broadheads with blades will always fly different than field tips given the resistance in flight as the arrow spins... ALWAYS... laws of physics...
@browningrage11 You misunderstood! The field tips do move, but not to the same extent. When you are done broadhead tuning you will have to re-sight your bow.
How would you suggest tuning for broadheads without shooting field points for comparison? Please post a video showing how to do it, and link it as a video response.
You speak of laws of physics... which laws are you speaking of?
dude...its not a compliment. you teaching people the wrong way to do this after you broadhead tune your arrow papertune it again after u do it your way. It wont be papertuned
@dreamseason1229 I realize you weren't paying us a compliment, but rather than being a jerk about it I thought I would poke some fun at it. Quite frankly if you think think that paper tuning is the end all beat all.. then go for it. Paper tune your bow and don't bother doing any other type of tuning. But if you want great flight with your broadheads, then broadhead tune and don't look back!
A three inch group at 20 yards!!! OMG That is NOT a group! I can shoot a tighter group than that at fifty yards. At 20 yards I cannot shoot two arrows at the same spot because I will damage my arrows. I have two "Robin Hoods" and both came at fifty yards. Please say you were kidding about a 3 inch group at 20 yards!
@sabybaby99; YOUR 'PUBLIC SCHOOL' EDUCATION IS SHOWING. IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO LEARN TO COMMUNICATE WITHOUT USING SUCH CHILDISH VULGAR LANGUAGE. HAVE A NICE DAY.
@ljackso Sorry what I meant was. You sound like an amazing person. Is it also quite possible for you to put ones penis in your mouth and perform fellatio on thyself.
@sabybaby99: Although it is long enough to accomplish such a feat I am not a sick and twisted individual as you obviously are. While you banter may be amusing to uneducated people I find it disgusting and crude. I would like to remind you that Yeshua loves you and wants to save you. Repent and be saved. Maranatha!
@ljackso and with the posting of that comment and a quick view of your youtube page i am satisfied that you are completely engulfed in yourself and I no longer feel the need to mock you, for you can and will do it yourself.
and to add to my earlier comment the whole point of paper tuning is to make sure ur nocking point on the string and rest are perfectly in line by moving the rest your un paper tuning ur bow. the whole video u say an untuned bow will shoot bad. all ur doing in this vid is untuning ur bow
this is really wrong if u move your rest the knocking point on ur bow string and the rest will cause the arrow to fish tail and you wont get true arrow flight but actually get slower and less accurate arrow flight. ps a 3 inch group at 20 yards is terrible. If i shoot at 20 yards and group. if i dont break a nock its not a good group and 30 is about maybe 2 or not even.
If you move your rest to get your broadheads to move closer to your fieldpoints wont that just move your field points in the direction you move your rest also? So in the end wouldnt they be the same space apart? Great video, just can't grasp the concept.
@obsesedwithpb15 Yes, moving your rest will move both your broadhead and fieldpoint. The difference is in how much each will move. The broadhead is more sensitive to changes (it "steers" the arrow from the front) so it will catch up to the field point. Once you are done tuning you will have to adjust your sights.
My though is this.....................If you have to make tuning adjustments for the broadheads you are using, then how about trying a different brand. Otherwise, thanks for the info.
Not sure what the @##$ they're talking about......... I've never seen a bit difference between shooting my Thunderheads and my regular field points............. Never made any adjustments, EVER! ........I've double lunged a whitetail, with a complete pass through, every year for the last 15 yrs.
Informative video, but this guy should thank god for peep sights cause he is seriously overdrawn.. the knock is coming back to almost his earlobe... I see this more then i care to repeat, back when you needed a repeatable anchor point this guys groups would be all over the place... Im not sure if its mechanical releases,peep sights, or what, but it seems most compound shooters are shooting overdrawn bows.. Maybe its the desire for speed over accuracy.. Bad trade off imo..
@huntnfishtosurvive Actually, the acting is horrible by both of us! But then again, we're not actors, we just do this for fun. Glad you enjoyed the video.
The Easton Tuning Guide helps. You can adjust the nock/loop on the string instead of the rest for up/down correction. Which usually starts at 1/8 above center.
Oh, ease up on the grip & you're collapsing your arm.
I've been telling him that for years, He just likes his form they way it is. Gold tip has a good way of doing this by cutting the arrows to get the correct spin using broadheads and feild point tunning.
Broad heads fly different cuz they are different. just cuz they weigh the same as your field tips doesnt mean they should be hitting the same spot. The air displacement of the broad head makes it fly different.
Air displacment should be the same on all sides of the tip. Broadhead or a Field pioint. The arrow will not be steered by the head if it is exiting the bow from dead nuts center. Then will drag affect the arrow impact? Question for you. have you chronographed a broadhead then a field point? Then do it with the chronograph at the target at 30 yards what is the differance in speed? Is enoght to affect air flight of more then a 1/2 inch of drop? left or right should not matter.
Fieldtips and broadheads most certainly displace air differently. Put them in a wind tunnel if you don't believe it. Thats why "drag" affects the point of imact.
if your wings get bent but not partly torn off on one of the arrows will they still fly the same as one that hasnt got a bent wing? plz reply someone thx
MrGunsmith29 2 days ago
@MrGunsmith29 As your vanes get worn and wrinkled there will be small changes in the flight of the arrows. For broadhead tuning I would recommend only using good straight fletching.
extremehunting 2 days ago
@extremehunting ok thanks for the help
MrGunsmith29 2 days ago
nothin like missing a nice deer
acuoco512 1 month ago
Isn't that what everyone wears??? LOL
extremehunting 2 months ago
socks and sandles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jbcrosby8 2 months ago
haha he cut his fletching
AlbinoPancreas 2 months ago
how about you all quit crying about your compounds (not a real bow). pick up a real traditional all wood bow and shoot. if you match the grains of your points it wont matter what you shoot. if your skill and instinct is any good you wont miss... especially at 20yrds.. i shoot a 68in all wood longbow with 50ilb draw. i practice at 40 yrds and i dont even have to deal with all the "tuning"...
bows shouldn't need to be tuned.... you should be tuned to shoot.
FLACKinsaniac 3 months ago
They dont fly the same because of plaining. Wind, drag and pressures come into effect with broadheads. i hate how people post shit on youtube that is incorrect although this video does have some useful archery knowledge. And for godsake man video record your form and perfect it before you post a video teaching others how to injure their rotator cup. im not trying to troll just sick of bullshit tutorials lol good hunting to you
GOOBTUBE1 3 months ago
@GOOBTUBE1 You are correct that they don't fly the same because of PLANING, wind and drag. The latter two there is not much that can be done, except to change to lower profile heads. The first however is where a properly tuned bow comes into effect. If your bow is tuned properly, and your heads spin true the effects of planing are nil. As for my form, I realize it's not perfect. This video is not a tutorial on form issues but rather a tutorial on tuning your bow. Happy hunting!
extremehunting 3 months ago
good info, though I could do without the cheezy acting
12raven34 3 months ago
I'll have to try this:)
Jimmy, WX9DX
wx9dx 3 months ago
hahahahaha says form issues while pulling back that bow unsafe as shit lol
GOOBTUBE1 3 months ago
@GOOBTUBE1 Please elaborate...
extremehunting 3 months ago
i have never done this before and my broadheads fly fine
megaretriver 3 months ago
I have spent so much money on heads but none of them would group well, thankyou for this great info.
chunky141996 3 months ago
Thanks i should have known this 25 years ago.What about crossbows?
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@agkranackandy Sorry, I don't know anything about crossbows or the adjustments available on them. I would imagine however that if they have adjustments similar to those on a compound bow this process should work.
extremehunting 4 months ago
Ummmm, @ 4:10...did that deer get an arrow low in the paunch??
YOUareALLasleep 4 months ago
@YOUareALLasleep Nope, clean miss. Play the vid on full screen and you can see that it misses by several inches. Arrow was recovered and did not have any "deer matter" on it.
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diehardredneck 5 months ago
So if I i move the rest down then what becomes of my knocking point? Do I also have to move that down to keep er' shooting straight and paper tuned? Also I'm shooting carbon express maxima hunters out of my 70 lb DXT is that too light of a spine for that poundage? And if it is, is it going to be impossible to broadhead tune this bad boy? Enough questions yet? :)
torquesoul11 5 months ago
@torquesoul11 If you move your rest down you do not need to move your knocking point at all. If you have already paper tuned you should not need to move anything very far. Make sure the increments you do move things are very small. As far as your arrow selection, you will want to make sure that your total arrow weight is 5gn or more per lb of pull you have your bow set for. So, if you have your bow set to 70lb, you will want at least a 350gn arrow. If your too light you may void your warranty
extremehunting 5 months ago
Great info. am going out this weekend to do exactly what you said, thanks.
TheChas60 5 months ago
I agree 100% but like you stated about the other things that can affect the flight, well I would do the following, check my form then vance clearance and the last thing i would do is adjust the arrow rest.
huntergersbach 5 months ago
nice vid thanks
kingsof982 6 months ago
hey i shoot rage and they shoot the same as my feild tip
gt14tb 6 months ago
Hey Guys I have gotten alot from this thank you
Coyoteraynn 6 months ago
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Coyoteraynn 6 months ago
if u move the rest wont the field points shoot differently also? i dont understand how moving the rest wont impact the accuracy of the field point as well. it's just like moving the sight. if my field point is dead center, and i move the rest, it wont be dead center anymore
Zajac587 6 months ago
@Zajac587 You are correct that your field points will move as well. They key however is that they will not move as much as the broadheads. The point of broadhead tuning is to get your broadheads and field points hitting the same location. When you have accomplished that, it is easy to adjust your sights to get back on target. I hope this explanation helps and thank you for watching the video.
extremehunting 6 months ago
@Zajac587 your field points are way more forgiving than your broadheads are. That is why manufacturers continually decrease the surface area of broadheads. So when you move your rest you are having a greater effect on your broadhead than on your field point. I've heard that competition 3D shooters tune their bows the same way as in the video to ensure the best precision out of their fieldpoints!
bobbo1686 6 months ago
When you do this, is it required to wear sandals with socks?
Skinnerc1129 6 months ago
@Skinnerc1129 Yes! The process will not work at all if you wear any other type of footwear. We should have pointed that out in the video and I'm sorry we did not do so. Thank you for pointing it out. Thanks for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed it.
extremehunting 6 months ago
Great video. I enjoyed watching it
Carbonexpress97 6 months ago
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extremehunting 7 months ago
Thanks for the informative video; pretty entertaining, too.
Bobsonomatic 7 months ago
you sir are a spaz
semperfi253 7 months ago
@semperfi253 Thank you for the constructive and informative comment.
extremehunting 7 months ago
@extremehunting anytime haha.....nice video guys it honestly really helped me thankyou
semperfi253 7 months ago
as you move back and change the rest wont the broadheads shoot different when you move closer again?
verminhunter7 7 months ago
@verminhunter7 As you move back and change your rest the increments you change your rest in will become very small. These very small changes will only help to continue fine tuning the closer ranges.
extremehunting 7 months ago
EXTREEEEEEEEEEMMMMMEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
instantpestering 8 months ago
socks and sandals woo woo.
slejhamr187 8 months ago
I'm glad that I saw this. My broadheads are hitting low about 1-1/2 ", but very consistently. Now I'm looking forward to getting both the field points and broadheads hitting the same spot, followed by sight adjustments. I always thought that that if I paper tuned the setup, all would be good, but that's not the case for me. Thanks!
Flex5000a 8 months ago
How do you fix this? If my field point hit the bullseye but the broadhead hit 2-3 inches on the right. If the broadhead hit right in the bullseye then the field point will hit 2-3 inches on the left. So, which one should I adjust it? the Sight or the Rest? or how do you make them hit the same spot. After view your video still confuse. I'm talking about 30 yards. Thanks
whatsbetterinlife 10 months ago
@whatsbetterinlife move your rest to the left a small amount (try 1/32" to start). There could also be an issue with your form, so keep that in mind if some small adjustments in your rest are not helping or make it worse.
extremehunting 10 months ago
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whatsbetterinlife 10 months ago
Dude please make vids with some small game like rabbit, squirrel and duck and geese!
HunterFisher00 11 months ago
with 100 grain pratice tips u move 10 yards down with 100 grain broad head simple so
10,20,30 broad head pt hits 10 then 100 grain bh move to 20 and ur finish
bitty921995 11 months ago
can you use a fall a way ??
buckmenoutdoor 1 year ago
@buckmenoutdoor Yes, as long as it is adjustable.
extremehunting 11 months ago
If you beleve evrything you see on tv and the internet i hope your not breading
Fireguyfromhell 1 year ago
so do you have to start at 20-yd in then 30-yd in 40-yd and 50-yd is that going to make your bow off a 10 to 20-yd in you do that over in over agen
buckmenoutdoor 1 year ago
@buckmenoutdoor As you move to longer ranges you will be moving your rest in smaller and smaller increments. Think of it as fine tuning. When done at longer ranges you can test your tune at short range again to give yourself peace of mind... but everything should be good. After tuning re-adjust your sights and have fun hunting.
extremehunting 1 year ago
Im glad that someone has some knowledge and knows how to convey it....good job guys!
kcalbraeb 1 year ago
can i Broadhead Tune a magnus 125-gr 4 blade like that whant to know cus it lookes like you guyes were shooting a samller Broadhead like a muzzy???
buckmenoutdoor 1 year ago
@buckmenoutdoor As long as the magnus heads spin test true, you can tune your bow to shoot them. I mention this because I have seen some inexpensive magnus heads not spin true and thus they were impossible to get good flight out of. You are correct we were shooting muzzy 3 blades (1 3/16" dia).
extremehunting 1 year ago
i have a question.. how do u move a rest up and down??????
cdavet24 1 year ago
@cdavet24 It depends on the type of rest you have. My Ripcord has the ability to be adjusted up and down. The other option you have is to move your nocking point the opposite direction. Hope this helps.
extremehunting 1 year ago
it worked thanks
joshua69874 1 year ago
Great vid guys, happy hunting!
ShawnAdvice 1 year ago
those blue broad heads suck i used those my first year and just makign sure they were tight i snapped one
marinescoutsniper11 1 year ago
@marinescoutsniper11 Yeah, they are junk. That's why we used them to show a broad head that does not spin straight. We just grabbed one from the package and screwed it on. Didn't even need to "look" for one.
extremehunting 1 year ago
Just Shoot WASP I never had to TUNE or re-sight any of my bows using fixed or mechanical.
darkwoodsoutdoors 1 year ago
whats the cutting diameter of the blue three blade broadhead??
redneck4lifeish 1 year ago
@redneck4lifeish They are 1-3/16" and I would NOT recommend them. As you can see in the video they do not spin true.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting i shoot them and they fly awesome they fly the same as feild tips.
redneck4lifeish 1 year ago
@redneck4lifeish I used to shoot them too. They did fly great but I only had them cause I was low on cash at the beginning of the season. I never had a chance to shoot anything with them but they look alright. I now shoot the Muzzy 125grain
swt19mustang65 1 year ago
@swt19mustang65 yeah i got them cheap to
redneck4lifeish 1 year ago
@extremehunting what is the name of them?
redneck4lifeish 1 year ago
@redneck4lifeish The blue head is made by Allen. I think it is the lightning model.
extremehunting 1 year ago
Nice socks and sandals! ha ha
31Southpaw 1 year ago
The intro to this video is great! Keep up the humor!
livinn59801 1 year ago
this was very helpful, now i am ready to kill a deer. thanks so much for posting this video.
hostie57401 1 year ago
@hostie57401 We're happy this was helpful. Hope you have a great season.
extremehunting 1 year ago
Paper tuning can get nock and rest close to where they need to be, but slight imperfections that are not perceiveable in the paper pass-through can still exist. The method in this video has been my method of perfecting arrow flight for a long time.
If you can paper tune to a *perfectly* circular pass-through, then perhaps you don't need to fine tune using your broadheads. You'll need some type of multiple-axis scanning laser coordinate measuring machine to verify circularity.
BarbaraVValters 1 year ago
@BarbaraVValters Thank you!
extremehunting 1 year ago
is a perfect shoot that he does,nice bowshooter
socio69elrey 1 year ago
y is this video still up. no one cares if u can custom strings if u cant shoot worth shit because all ur doing is untuning ur bow
jbm4551 1 year ago
@jbm4551 Please post a video of you performing your preferred method of tuning.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting ok its called paper tuning. thats it. paper tuning moves your rest to the perfect alignment of your nocking point and rest. by moving your rest your causing your arrow to fishtail and completely untuning your bow because the arrow alignment is not straight. thats why u shoot 3 inch groups at 20 yards and im a member of KND Outdoors pro staff. AKA Im on a archery team. I think i know what im talking about.
jbm4551 1 year ago
@jbm4551 Do you also believe everything you read on the internet and watch on TV? Sorry to break it to you but paper tuning is not the end all beat all method of tuning. It does get your bow close... but not perfect. By the way, thanks for listing where you represent, now I know not be believe anything related to KND Outdoors.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting y? because your so ignorant to the fact that what your doing in this video and telling people to do is untuning their bow and making them less accurate and less consistent? no your wrong the entire purpose of tuning a bow is to make it shot as straight as possible. you are doing the exact opposite of that, you are making the arrow flight wobbly and there for its going to be inaccurate and inconsistent!! anyone whos knows anything about bows can tell you that.
jbm4551 1 year ago
@jbm4551 It's sad that you think you know what your talking about. You continue to make personal attacks and spew incorrect information. The basis of your claim is that we are un-tuning bows. Unfortunately for you that is not true. If you read the title of our video it is Broadhead TUNING! We are not demonstrating paper tuning or walkback tuning or any other type of tuning we are demonstrating broadhead TUNING. If you don't like broadhead tuning that's fine. Don't watch our video!
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting thatsthe whole point ur not tuning anything. if your rest and nock point are not aligned your bow is not tuned! its not shooting straight. the definition of tuning is to adjust (a motor, mechanism, or the like) for proper functioning. if your nock point and rest are not aligned then your arrows isnt flying straight and is NOT functioning properly. so its NOT tuned!
jbm4551 1 year ago
@jbm4551 EXACTLY! Paper tuning will not get things perfect. It is a good starting point, but if you want it to be perfect you need to complete broadhead tuning. it will show you what small adjustments you still need to make to get it tuned perfectly. Glad your starting to get it!
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting no your really an idiot if you think that last statement was agreeing with you. i just stated how you are not tuning your bow you are still untuning it. you really must be a moron
jbm4551 1 year ago
@jbm4551 I'm sorry it has come to this, but due to your continued personal insults you will have to be blocked.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting to make it easier for you to understand. tuning is when something is working properly. by misaligning ur rest your bow isnt working properly
jbm4551 1 year ago
This is actually really easy, I did it in about 10 minutes! By the way, if you put anything on your rest to silence it, i.e. moleskin, check your accuracy before going to the field, otherwise, you may miss that "once in a lifetime" deer!
hornet579 1 year ago
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the best way i have found to broadhead tune my bow is by buying a pack of rage two blades
pila3767 1 year ago
the best way i have found to broadhead tune my bow is to buy rage two blades
pila3767 1 year ago
good video... I want to see more geese get downed!
KONAPRO 1 year ago
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I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do
sniperdalear15 1 year ago
I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do.
sniperdalear15 1 year ago
So basically you are throwing your bow out of tune by moving your rest based on where your broadhead impacted in comparison to your field point. This isn't the right way to "tune" your bow for broadheads. Even if your broadheads group better with your field points with this method, the arrows will lose KE and penetration because they will be fishtailing and porpoising so much (depending on how much you moved your rest out of tune)!
krabsnkrinkles 1 year ago
@krabsnkrinkles you are assuming that a bow is "tuned" before doing this. Let me ask you this, by what standard would you call a bow "tuned"? You say, "this isn't the right way to "tune" your bow for broadheads." Can you please elaborate on what you would call the "right" way to tune for broadheads?
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting I do understand. I thought the last guy was right but no. I have had problems with this also. If your Rest is a little off really dont affect your field point much. but the brad head will go with the difference of the rest do to the way the broad head cuts through the air, kinda like the fletchings do. the field point will not be stirred by the air because it has no blades to catch the air. So therefor the broad heads fly more true to the rest set up then the field points do
sniperdalear15 1 year ago
Thanks guys. My friend has these issues with his hoyt he bought last year and he is not happy with it. He wants to be able to shoot deer with the broad heads and squirrels with the field point like I do when I get tired of waiting. we will try this and get back with you. I changed last year to a Mathews and love it.
Gnirad1 1 year ago
Thanks the video was very informative.
fulldraw001 1 year ago
I've seen better acting in porns, you should take some time and tune that lol
biggoofybastard 1 year ago
@biggoofybastard Thankfully this isn't a porno so our acting doesn't need to be on such a high level. Hope you enjoyed the video and have a great season.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting I actually did gave me a chuckle, definitely will use this technique if I get a compound
biggoofybastard 1 year ago
great video guys, kinda corny and i believe that you couldve left out those sandals. lol. Great Job
axeforce6 1 year ago
Excellent information in your video. So many people don't know or forget that you move the rest in the direction that you want the arrow to fly.
Kudos!
texaswader 1 year ago
good tip cant wait to go and try it out thanks.
bigmusic39 1 year ago
Hey man im buying a set of 125 gr glue on heads with 125 gr inserts and set of XX75 game getters, im using a tradtioinl bow, but i got a Bear 60# lbs compound bow, no rest, needs one and needs to change the string, can you recomend any good rests and sights?
jonneyj 1 year ago
hey that blue broadhead that you guys spin tested in the video, got it from walmart huh? i seen it at wally world and was thinking of getting a pack... how good are they?
golfer15963 1 year ago
@golfer15963 I don't think we got it at Walmart, but I do believe they carry them. I would not recommend them. As you can see the one in the video did not spin test straight and we just grabbed it at random.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting i got a few of them (at least they look like) from ebay. 2x3 for 5$, you get what you pay for. had to "push" some them to get them straight (made in china)
paired with xx75 gamegetter, some bad groups (30cm) at 30m, some good 10cm.
pteppig 1 year ago
that is a good tip
TheMrcap 1 year ago
Thank you a lot for the video it helped me out a lot and i'm sure many others too
hunterwr69 1 year ago
@Iamstreet95oh Sorry, but due to the language we must remove this comment. Nothing personal.
extremehunting 1 year ago
lol terrible acting lol but goot tips and helped me! hey im from MN and live near vapor trail co. in ham lake and i drive by there lot and the huge garage type building that says vaportrail on google maps looks deserted and theres nothing going on in that building! do you have any idea whats with that place nowadays?
golfer15963 1 year ago
@golfer15963 Sorry, I haven't kept up with them, and my strings are holding up great, so I haven't needed another set. This is their street address from their website. 1333 154th Ave. NE; Ham Lake, MN 55304
extremehunting 1 year ago
Ohh so pretty much if you move the rest 1 click (just saying) then the broadhead will move 2 clicks when shot and the fieldpoint will only move 1click when shot.So Eventually they become closer together wether its a broadhead or fieldpoint right?
dvonlangen 1 year ago
@dvonlangen That is the general idea. Being that a broadhead has more surface area it reacts more to small changes in your set-up.
extremehunting 1 year ago
So when you noticed that your broadhead was shooting low and left of your field tips, you moved the rest up and to the right to move the broadheads... But your field tip arrows didn't move up and to the right with it...??? You make no sense... Tune for broadheads only... test with field tip after to see how far off they shoot... Broadheads with blades will always fly different than field tips given the resistance in flight as the arrow spins... ALWAYS... laws of physics...
browningrage11 1 year ago
@browningrage11 You misunderstood! The field tips do move, but not to the same extent. When you are done broadhead tuning you will have to re-sight your bow.
How would you suggest tuning for broadheads without shooting field points for comparison? Please post a video showing how to do it, and link it as a video response.
You speak of laws of physics... which laws are you speaking of?
extremehunting 1 year ago
i liked the clip now what
barrettkeel97 1 year ago
@barrettkeel97 what do you mean "now what"?
extremehunting 1 year ago
y are u griping your bow u will twist your shot
andyfehr 1 year ago
dude...its not a compliment. you teaching people the wrong way to do this after you broadhead tune your arrow papertune it again after u do it your way. It wont be papertuned
dreamseason1229 1 year ago
@dreamseason1229 I realize you weren't paying us a compliment, but rather than being a jerk about it I thought I would poke some fun at it. Quite frankly if you think think that paper tuning is the end all beat all.. then go for it. Paper tune your bow and don't bother doing any other type of tuning. But if you want great flight with your broadheads, then broadhead tune and don't look back!
extremehunting 1 year ago
3 inch group at 20 yards. I shot flys at 100.
nodakhunter 1 year ago
I feel like youtube should take this video off so it doesnt poison the minds of anyone else
dreamseason1229 1 year ago
@dreamseason1229 I know.. it's addicting! Hope you have a good season.
extremehunting 1 year ago
yay! :D
Edge96937 1 year ago
A three inch group at 20 yards!!! OMG That is NOT a group! I can shoot a tighter group than that at fifty yards. At 20 yards I cannot shoot two arrows at the same spot because I will damage my arrows. I have two "Robin Hoods" and both came at fifty yards. Please say you were kidding about a 3 inch group at 20 yards!
ljackso 1 year ago
@ljackso I was kidding. :-)
extremehunting 1 year ago
@ljackso Can you also bend over and suck your own dick cause you sound like you are the greatest person alive.
sabybaby99 1 year ago
@sabybaby99; YOUR 'PUBLIC SCHOOL' EDUCATION IS SHOWING. IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO LEARN TO COMMUNICATE WITHOUT USING SUCH CHILDISH VULGAR LANGUAGE. HAVE A NICE DAY.
ljackso 1 year ago
@ljackso Sorry what I meant was. You sound like an amazing person. Is it also quite possible for you to put ones penis in your mouth and perform fellatio on thyself.
sabybaby99 1 year ago
@sabybaby99: Although it is long enough to accomplish such a feat I am not a sick and twisted individual as you obviously are. While you banter may be amusing to uneducated people I find it disgusting and crude. I would like to remind you that Yeshua loves you and wants to save you. Repent and be saved. Maranatha!
ljackso 1 year ago
@ljackso and with the posting of that comment and a quick view of your youtube page i am satisfied that you are completely engulfed in yourself and I no longer feel the need to mock you, for you can and will do it yourself.
sabybaby99 1 year ago
LMFAOOO....are those from walmart
bowhunter1194 1 year ago
and to add to my earlier comment the whole point of paper tuning is to make sure ur nocking point on the string and rest are perfectly in line by moving the rest your un paper tuning ur bow. the whole video u say an untuned bow will shoot bad. all ur doing in this vid is untuning ur bow
jbm4551 1 year ago
this is really wrong if u move your rest the knocking point on ur bow string and the rest will cause the arrow to fish tail and you wont get true arrow flight but actually get slower and less accurate arrow flight. ps a 3 inch group at 20 yards is terrible. If i shoot at 20 yards and group. if i dont break a nock its not a good group and 30 is about maybe 2 or not even.
jbm4551 1 year ago
wow terrible acting but good info.
bpwhunter1993 1 year ago
@bpwhunter1993 Thank you!
extremehunting 1 year ago
@bpwhunter1993: I agree the technical information was good but I can't agree with being "happy" with a 3 inch group at 20 yards!
ljackso 1 year ago
If you move your rest to get your broadheads to move closer to your fieldpoints wont that just move your field points in the direction you move your rest also? So in the end wouldnt they be the same space apart? Great video, just can't grasp the concept.
obsesedwithpb15 1 year ago
@obsesedwithpb15 Yes, moving your rest will move both your broadhead and fieldpoint. The difference is in how much each will move. The broadhead is more sensitive to changes (it "steers" the arrow from the front) so it will catch up to the field point. Once you are done tuning you will have to adjust your sights.
extremehunting 1 year ago
@extremehunting Thanks, i will deffenetly give it a try some time. Also Subscribed!
obsesedwithpb15 1 year ago
way to cut up a $9 arrow there woot!
Labyrnthdom 1 year ago
@Labyrnthdom Nothing but the best for our YouTube friends!
extremehunting 1 year ago
@steelhauler34 Yep... Like a feather!
extremehunting 1 year ago
Really sound technical advice. This is the best way to get consistent results. Well explained guys, thanks.
dogzilla172 1 year ago
@dogzilla172 Thank you!
extremehunting 1 year ago
My though is this.....................If you have to make tuning adjustments for the broadheads you are using, then how about trying a different brand. Otherwise, thanks for the info.
xgreendayxspazx 1 year ago
Not sure what the @##$ they're talking about......... I've never seen a bit difference between shooting my Thunderheads and my regular field points............. Never made any adjustments, EVER! ........I've double lunged a whitetail, with a complete pass through, every year for the last 15 yrs.
xgreendayxspazx 1 year ago
nice socks
vjanda1 1 year ago
pretty good info...soon as im not butt deep in snow ill try it!!
crew206 1 year ago
How do you get now fletching contact with a whisker biscuit style rest? ;-)
Great video guys, it was very helpful with tuning my bow.
Sideshowbobx 1 year ago
Informative video, but this guy should thank god for peep sights cause he is seriously overdrawn.. the knock is coming back to almost his earlobe... I see this more then i care to repeat, back when you needed a repeatable anchor point this guys groups would be all over the place... Im not sure if its mechanical releases,peep sights, or what, but it seems most compound shooters are shooting overdrawn bows.. Maybe its the desire for speed over accuracy.. Bad trade off imo..
rainmechanic 1 year ago
now dont your field tips shoot high and to the right of your broadhead arrows?
azfootball 2 years ago
@azfootball yes they do
Droptine15 2 years ago
i dont get it...are they just trying to get the field tips and broadheads close to the bullseye? i get it if thats wat they r doin but im not sure...
fishnkid1923 1 year ago
i got an older bow...any tips for three-sight...and no adjustable rest...
TheTriumphkid 2 years ago
buy or steal a good rest
jordyd19 2 years ago
worst acting ever by the one dude, but i liked the video
huntnfishtosurvive 2 years ago
@huntnfishtosurvive Actually, the acting is horrible by both of us! But then again, we're not actors, we just do this for fun. Glad you enjoyed the video.
extremehunting 2 years ago
Yep we defintly need to stick to running the cameras. I am glad we were able to edit out the paper.
nodakhunter 2 years ago
LOL you talking about me or him?
nodakhunter 2 years ago
@nodakhunter the guy in the orange
huntnfishtosurvive 2 years ago
thx 4 tha lesson....
jollyholly 2 years ago
makes sense....just what i need as the archery world is sometimes way to technical and full of bull jargon. Cheers guys.
bluelagoon10023 2 years ago
The Easton Tuning Guide helps. You can adjust the nock/loop on the string instead of the rest for up/down correction. Which usually starts at 1/8 above center.
Oh, ease up on the grip & you're collapsing your arm.
Good video!!!
Westmallewv 2 years ago
I've been telling him that for years, He just likes his form they way it is. Gold tip has a good way of doing this by cutting the arrows to get the correct spin using broadheads and feild point tunning.
nodakhunter 2 years ago
I just bowhunt with my 22 mag. POW! right between the eyes!
Trashfished 2 years ago
Sounds real sporting. :-(
extremehunting 2 years ago
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Korbins1Archery 2 years ago
Broad heads fly different cuz they are different. just cuz they weigh the same as your field tips doesnt mean they should be hitting the same spot. The air displacement of the broad head makes it fly different.
LMAO0O0O0 2 years ago
Air displacment should be the same on all sides of the tip. Broadhead or a Field pioint. The arrow will not be steered by the head if it is exiting the bow from dead nuts center. Then will drag affect the arrow impact? Question for you. have you chronographed a broadhead then a field point? Then do it with the chronograph at the target at 30 yards what is the differance in speed? Is enoght to affect air flight of more then a 1/2 inch of drop? left or right should not matter.
nodakhunter 2 years ago
Fieldtips and broadheads most certainly displace air differently. Put them in a wind tunnel if you don't believe it. Thats why "drag" affects the point of imact.
LMAO0O0O0 2 years ago