shinobie ur fukin retarted my sisters husband is in the ARMY and my brother is in the Marine Corp and my sisters boyfriend knows that the Marine Corp is better then the ARMY i have respect for all services but some people are just fukin stupid like u and yes u can kill people with these im taught some of these in MMA and the neck crank and the face rip u can easily kill some 1 by a quick hit to the neck u obviusly dont know how to fight i know more then u and im 14
as far as MAC goes, i was more under the impression that MAC tries to teach HOW to train rather than being trained to do certain manuevers at certain situations. its meant more to pump up your ethos rather than being a focused martial arts like MCMAP. nonetheless i know very little about it so i dont claim to know how effective it is. anyways i dont see how its better than MCMAP.
@rosslegend the difference between UFC fighters and Marines is that UFC fighters are trained to fight and endure a match. Marines are taught to kill as quickly and efficiently as possible. if a UFC fighter were to try to take a Marine down to the ground for some ground and pound, guarantee you in a life or death situation that UFC fighter won't be getting back up. two totally different fighting philosophies.
nonetheless, a lot of veterans (regardless of branch) go into UFC.
purely fighting, i dont deny what you say in some aspects, but as i stated before they are still two totally different philosophies.
its like what a krav maga instructor told a ufc fighter in a sparring match, "you're a real good ring fighter, but you have no skill in self defence." conversely, a lot of ufc members are former vets. i even mildly considered amatuer MMA after service but i didnt think i could go far.
also, i know what i was trained in before so dont knock my experience.
And when it goes beyond that, it has served us very well. Plenty of accounts of that in the last decade. So I think we are just fine, thanks. There might be something mental to it, but talk to a vet who has applied what they have learned.
While there is a curriculum, it depends on the instructor. You might be taught all manner of things outside of the curriculum. The overall idea is a flexible system that allows you to move from non-lethal>lethal very easily. Most of our time spent in the last 10 years was as a security/police force.
For those saying MCMAP is useless, you may be forgetting a very important fact about the whole reason for the institution of it. MCMAP is not and has never been developed for 5-10 minute fights, it's not meant to put against other styles in a ring type environment and tested in an arena. It's put into place to quickly dispatch a target and make them compliant within seconds. There's not a reset. You don't go home afterwards and hope for better luck next time. It's for combat situations.
@Misstakeda It's not developed to use for lengthy fights. Anyone who tries to use it in MMA or anything more than a street fight would quickly find themselves outmatched. It's instant, it's quick, it's over. You don't take Ju Jitsu into combat and hope to get into some 1v1 fights and show your skill. That's not even intelligent.
@Misstakeda Eh, debatable. There's more to MCMAP than that though, and for some reason I don't understand why people don't see it, even Marines miss it. MCMAP is design to help develop the "warrior spirit" to fight no matter what happens. It even says that in the motto "one mind, any weapon" The purpose to MCMAP is not for hand to hand, b/c frankly, its terrible for combatives anyway, but to increase a Marines willingness to fight
I know that Don't ask don't tell as been repelled in the Army/Air force/Navy but as it been repelled from the Marines? (I kinda find the idea of gay Marines funny and awesome).
My father is MFR (SOCOM) hes a Major people say oh these moves dont work and what not now lemme tell u this 1 18 yr old Marine having a bad day can take on 1-5 27 yr olds in a fight and win
@runeman1996 The techniques are just fine, and Mcmap is a great program but it's not that amazing. Marine combative training is weapons training, not very good hand to hand
As a Marine myself, these techniques would work I guess, against another untrained or somewhat untrained opponent, it's not like I expect every Marine to be able to beat a decent MMA fighter to be called a good fighter, but it's kind of hard NOT to when I see a bunch of guys thinking they're bad asses in my Baracks because of MCMAP, hopefully they don't pick a fight with a violent MMA fighter who has no regard for safety or they will learn the hard way haha.
@myloveforMMA Lolol same with some guys who trained traditional martial arts. I help teach street self defense, but that stuff wont work if youre trying to be a badass against a trained opponent. I also do MMA and train in MCMAP. Shit just turns out comparing a sturdy table to one that's held up by 2 legs. No comparison at all haha. However if you try to stay out of trouble and you gotta protect your life and run, this stuff definitely delivers and makes me love my job.
@Hav0kftw I agree, excellent weapons training, and definitely not the best for hand to hand, actually to me, MCMAP is just a little above your tae kwon doe gym
@Hav0kftw Pretty much the same thing, but instead of Marines, U.S. Army personnel train in it. I personally don't think highly of MCMAP or MACP or Krav Maga for hand to hand combat or self defense applications. You want to be able to hurt someone with your hands, elbows, feet, knees, and slams and submissions, then you have to train HARD at it, not just practice a few 50% speed moves. Which is why I am a huge MMA fan even for self defense. News story were an MMA fighter took a muggers gun away.
@myloveforMMA Are you still in the Marines? And how much, or often, do you train? Because there is a difference between combative training/ fighting and sport training/ fighting
@Hav0kftw Yeah, the difference is that combatives training is like McDojo stuff. The only good thing I took from Combatives stuff is fighting with a knife, bayonet, and stick. Hand to hand it is completely useless. I made it to brown belt, and decided, no... this is just wasting my time, everyone thinks your a bad ass for wearing a blackbelt though it's quite hilarious.
@myloveforMMA I disagree, here's why- you probably don't understand that almost all martial arts, well the modern variants, are all for sport. Tae Kwon Do, Kick Boxing, Karate, etc. If you want a true combative, hand to hand martial art, that is proven then you'll find it in Ju Jitsu. Specifically Goshin Ju Jitsu, although you will find great combative training with BJJ or Gracie Ju Jitsu. And frankly, it's proven to work for self defense and MMA, just look at Gracie history.
@Hav0kftw No trust me man, you can go on ahead and believe that you can become a great MMA fighter with a MCMAP or MACP blackbelt, or you can believe that you can kick any thugs ass with one of those two (if you had a knife, stick, or rifle/bayonet then yes but you don't carry those with you all the time) but empty handed, besides the eye gouge and throat manipulation and groin kick, there's not much and even that is kind of weak bro.
@myloveforMMA I'm not saying Mcmap or MACP will make someone a great MMA fighter (trust me, I was suppose to fight this spring but then I stopped training due to personal reasons) But you're looking at this from a very narrow point of view, I know because I use to talk like that. What kind of hand to hand training have you received?
@Hav0kftw Well I was born in Brazil, and I've been doing BJJ for more than 10 years now, I joined Chute Boxe about 6 years ago, which they teach their aggressive Muay Thai that has spawned fighters from there such as Shogun, Wanderlie, and Anderson. I've recently been training at a Muay Thai gym here in Los Angeles, and obviously I did MCMAP having been in the Marines getting my useless brown belt. And you sir?
@myloveforMMA Good I was hoping you would say BJJ haha, and I've done Tae Kwon Do with a mix of Hapkido (but that was years ago), currently, I'm training in Kick Boxing, and Goshin Ju Jitsu with a mix of BJJ. What belt are you in BJJ? you've gotta be pretty high if you've been doing it that long. And I agree, Mcmap= useless
@Hav0kftw I am a black belt in Gracie JJ. The problem with Martial Arts like MCMAP and Krav Maga, is they don't teach the basics. How is someone going to strike the throat and eyes hard, when MCMAP doesn't teach you how to be a decent striker? How are you going to put people on chokes and get out of them if it doesn't teach you to be a decent grappler? If you taught a very good MMA fighter some Krav Maga or MCMAP he might be able to benefit from it. How is Goshin Ju Jitsu?
@myloveforMMA Oh very nice! And yeah.. I think we're arguing the same thing hahah I totally agree. I've watched many many many Marines and soldiers fight and frankly, they're all pretty bad at it. Even the instructors aren't very good (although, I have seen some very decent fights with potential to become even better). And Goshin is pretty good, what makes it really cool is that my instructor mixes BJJ in with it so it's not just stand up combatives we actually work a lot of ground
Everyone's a killer now. Nice video though a lot of good training and transitions. I like a lot of the moves because they are easily learned. I was a SGT, but not a black belt, so it's nice to see some of the moves. I mean I still train like the MARINE I still am. Everyone needs to start taking what the videos are for and improving their own game. Instead those who do the least make the dumdass comments.
I swear my friend tried to teach me these. The only thing is that the only way he shows me something is by using it on me so that I know what the target feels...
If its so "embarrassing" to watch, how about you pick a fight with a Marine. Even a POG would kill you. Everybody on youtube is a fucking expert these days.... SEMPER FI.
Ohh Yea , A guy is just gonna stand there like that waiting for you to flip him . Ha ha ha ha Black Belt MY ASS !! These fuckers don't even know what a Neutral Bow Stance is or how to put up a good Guard ! Ohhh God ! This is Fucken Embarrassing to watch !
@nicktesla45 so why are you watching the damn video you fucking little civilian piece of shit. i hate MCMAP, but I hate when civilians talk shit about it, I bet all you do is karate or all that shit, Marines are trained to Kill and survive in combat you fucking little piece of shit.
@elperrito302 Calm-down Kid ! I did not mean to make you piss in your diapers Junior. And do NOT make assumtions about what I know or don't know. An assumtion is the Mother of all fuck-ups . Never underestimate your enemy Junior , A guy like me can kill you with a Fucken Sling-shot or a Credit Card ! I can take out a sentry without making a sound and he would'nt even see who killed him. Ha ha ha ha relax Kid , we are both on tha same side ! You just learn to keep your head down! OK ?
@nicktesla45 ok dumb fuck I think we are even and I am not pissed I am just trying hard to get the top comment and I see that there are 467 likes and only 11 dislikes and one is mine hahhh biotch. so if I defend MCMAP's Honor I might get the top comment. fuck you and your killer credit card and make sure you have all your money on your checking so the the credicard can't get rejected hahaha biotch
they should have never got rid of line training. all these submitions are cool and all but the marine corps isnt ufc. i went through some mcmap and i went through line training and line training was far deadlier. the first tecnique tought you how to break bones and kill someone. yes some of the line training was not very good but i dont want to tap an enemy out, i want to end his life as fast as possible.
@gladiatorjayme I would call this pretty informative for people looking into joining the Corps, actually. Not "gay". These are techniques that can save servicemen's lives.
Marines are mindless sheeps that like to be commanded. Keep this up guys, you are the ones that end dying in war anyways, because a bunch of old fags command you to hahaha
@cccEngineer Only because the wars they'r in are against smaller countries without "USA level" firepower. Iran, Irak, ouh c'mon, why would you go blast away a country of peaceful people. Stop messing with the world!
@MursuTheMan We are not fighting the country, as a matter of fact we are training and helping the country. All the countries with "USA level" firepower are our friends, so we don't have much of a problem there...
@mrajaraven You sound slow. Have you seen how many Marines die in COMBAT (We havent been any wars recently, only Police Actions) recently, Compared to the number of troops there are? Your a "mindless sheep" that has followed false information. HOORAH SEMPER FI!
Why is it that everyone plebe that learns martial arts at their local shopping mall thinks they can “kick the ass of any US Marine?” I’m in Northern Virginia right outside of Quantico and no one is running around town challenging Marines in martial arts sparring matches or fights. There is good reason for that. In reality, a US Marine will school you in a very humbling way. The awesome “skills” you learned at the “MMA dojo” located between the Gap and Cinnabon will not help you.
@mongeku1000 Rolling into it gives you the better chance of having an effective knee bar, and if you decide to just fall back onto them they are in a better position for a choke.
Holy crap one of those guys looks like what my uncle looked like years ago while he was on active duty...And I will shit bricks if it was the one named Sgt Garcia (Garcia's my uncles last name..) However, he's a 1st Sgt.
MCMAP i got my green belt than switched to krav maga ask any marine who can actually fight an didnt join the corps because they was bitchs in highschool an wanted to become tough that mcmap will get your ass kicked LOL
@Xangba only marines who dedicate there time learning an becoming a black belt in mcmap are dumb enough to believe that lol its very easy to get your belts in mcmap. The one thing i do like about mcmap is that when in the marines you can tell some of the people who joined got teased or bullied in highschool and join the marines thinkin there gonna get tough an learn mcmap an they just end up gettin bullied an getting there ass beat in the corps lol maybe your one of them
@XxMerc050xX No I'm one the guys who joined to actually fight for my country and not to just feel like a badass. I sure as hell don't want someone watching my back who joined for bragging rights and can't even figure out how to properly perform MCMAP
@Xangba I dont brag about mcmap lol i dont talk about being in the marines anymore im a civilian only reason i joined was to kill some fuck in iraq an not have to worry about facing prison time for it lol marines are good for 1 thing slaughtering iraqis an afghans for sport
@Xangba I like you my friend we have a common bond in that we both have killed for our country an bathed in the blood of our comrades who fell to the enemy. It is better to die for your country than live for yourself
Listen, you do have to learn ground grappling techniques but what was demonstrated here will not work on the battlefield but it will work on 1v1and if the enemy is not armed. Because while you're setting up the triangle, I am pulling out an 8 inch knife and stabbing you with it ...
@pcjudosambo so you have to wait until he's about to triangle you to pull out your knife? you wouldn't think of pulling it out before it got to a ground fighting situation?
@pcjudosambo that's assuming a lot. but ok assume all you want. oh and if you pull a knife out and just stab somebody who tackles you, that is considered overuse of force and you would be prosecuted and convicted of voluntary manslaughter. just some food for thought before you offer more words of wisdom
@bizitch71717 when I was talking about a knife, I was talking in an combat situation (hence we're watching Marines training) ... I am not talking a street fight.
@itsPrivateYam Maybe, but they don't have to do it with boots and 80+ pounds of gear after hiking dozens of miles over several days. There's a difference.
MCMAP overall is useless it has gotten soft over the past few decades, its more for show now than it was used for war. It was onced used to be a brute force for killing and now if you tried any of these moves in a fight against anyone who has a decent background in Martial Arts you would get your ass kicked, just cause your a Marine doesn't make you an instant badass. I just wish I i didn't have to hear this from my instructor so now im stopping at my brownbelt and training in Muay Thai
@88isthenumber Really? MCMAP hasn't only existed in it's present form for a decade.
Just like any martial arts if you don't practice it and put in the time in the dojo/mat/gym or whatever, yes, you will get your ass kicked by someone else who has.
Liek any martial art, if you don't believe in it, stop practicing it and do something else. But please don't put it down just because you can't make it work for you. I could just as easily put down Muay Thai as it has no ground game.
@TheEagerMcBeaver After sparring or doing anything hands-on for a long time in a fighting sport, your body gets muscle memory and hitting shit that moves becomes easy. I did tae kwon do till I was a 1st poom, and by then I was able to kick someone in the face while they were moving. Of course, things don't work out 100% of the time in a spar or fight, but I guess that's why people in the military have guns in case they mess up.
@noose357 This is true, but remember MCMAP is a moified version of various different forms of martial arts to be used in a combat environment. So all of the moves you'll see are probably going to be either the same or very similar to a move you could learn in any other nartial art, minus a few ones that are only taught to the US military. at least as far as my knowledge goes :)
@Dedicated222Duty I didn't say ALL of McMap is Judo, I just meant most of this video is Judo, which is why I listed the techniques seen in the demonstration. It is mixed, but most techniques seen here are in fact Judo or Jujitsu (not bjj)
@xJROIDx To refer to it as a whole. But I can't refer to Judo/Jujitsu techniques as MCMAP when they already have a name and origin. I prefer to be educated about what's what rather than have it be "easier".
@thegreat1141 I'm not an expert, but I do know basic Judo lol =P There's a video on my channel of me performing juji gatame in a shiai if you wanna check it out. It's the only vid so far, but I plan to have more.
@noose357 i was in judo when i was little, still can throw someone around if i feel so inclined it's probably the most useful martial art ever in my opinion
@noose357 Especially when you figure out the difference between throwing someone to the ground, and throwing someone at the ground, with judo there isn't really a fight there is a grab, a thud, some flailing limbs, and your on your way down the road haha.
@thegreat1141 First time i saw judo, i wasn't sure if the person was throwing a person to the ground or at the ground, maybe cause i watched too much wrestling lol.
@noose357 You do know that most of the MCMAP techniques are direct derivatives of finishing submission moves all borrowed from Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese martial arts, including Judo, right? The Marine Corps decided to do a reform of its battle philosophy to include 'peacekeeping' techniques that don't always involve killing, but also subduing, if the attacker needs to be kept alive for interrogation, mission purposes, etc.
@MrAlexH1991 Jujitsu or Judo for that matter, are NOT Korean or Chinese or Vietnamese.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you didn't know those martial arts are of Japanese descent, you need to do some homework. I'm completely aware of why the Marines changed their combat principles, but it's still a large portion of Judo and Jujitsu.
@MrAlexH1991 Right. Please, excuse my mistake. Either way, I was just attempting to help you understand why these techniques are included in the MCMAP fighting method. It was all borrowed from foreign styles, then mixed with the killing techniques Marines were already learning before. Before, all Marines were trained in was regular boxing and killing, now they're trained in reactive martial arts that can subdue instead of kill. That's why its called Marine Corps Martial Arts Program now.
@picklejarwontopen as i remember it your actual rank and your MCMAP rank are independent of each other. its rare to see anyone under ssgt with a black belt because most units are super picky when clearing guys to go through the training.
@GodZxSAINT lmfao you think your week of training can stand up to my 5 years? try me pussy id smack you around. all those marines are skinny little weak sticks...
Oh, damn. Well, im not gonna waste too much time on your immature ass(ghilliemann?stop playing COD)okay, well our "1 week of training", is just the basic shit. after that, in order to get the blackbelt, you have to go through alot more. This isnt your little 300 dollar martial arts program, this is training men for war. i dont usually talk smack over the internet, but i will most definatley submit you in less then 10 seconds. i donot care if youre the fucking hulk.
@ghilliemann Okay to start, five years of what? While I wait for an answer allow me to say that many martial arts are agreed to be too stiff and unrealistic by themselves. Also, MCMAP is part of being a Marine, it's something you are expected to know inside and out without hesitation. Hell in training alonr you repeat motions to the point it's a natural motion for your body. Understand what you're talking about before you think you're better that what you haven't faced.
Marines are fucking awesome but the techniques they learn in MCMAP are irrelevant to battle. Krav Maga is the most realistic self defense/assassination program on the planet. I know this because Ive been in martial arts for a long time. BJJ helps but rolling around on the ground will not save you from multiple attackers. Krav Maga teaches you gun and knife disarms, how to deal with multiple attackers, kill shots, and more. If the military wants to truly help our heroes they need to teach them KM
@dr4wheeler First off, I do agree with you, Krav Maga is very useful. I'm just pointing some things out. Also, MCMAP does teach disarms at higher belts. Anyway, MCMAP is as much about teaching discipline and focus as it is fighting. It has moves all across the board to offer flexibility in non-combat situations as well. If your life is at risk there are plenty of counters and lethal moves taught with everything else. Focus, discipline, self-defense and flexibility are the goals of MCMAP.
@dr4wheeler I am pretty sure that learning how to bayonet someone in the gut is relevant. Has been since the rifle was invented, and the spear before that. Same argument was used when nukes were invented...."Why teach hand to hand combat when we have nukes now....."
Krav isn't much different than MCMAP, or Army Combatives (if a person bothers to actually go beyond looking at the pictures.)
They are all good systems and they all have tremendous overlap.
@ghilliemann haha! you're a funny guy. a bit delusional, but you are still funny. regardless, if you ever do knock out a Marine please film it, but just don't get too close to him cuz if he's a real Marine, he'll get back up. And then you're screwed buddy.
I like the idea of the MCMAP being versatile in its approach but in battle your not going to tap a fucking enemy that plans to kill you and you can bet that he is going to have hundreds of friends. They need to change their program and gear it more towards being lethal with every move and be something along the lines of fairbairn combatives following the principles.
i want to join the marines because of the immense pride that swells in my chest when i see them march my cousin was a fine marine and he died one i want to make him and my country proud
shinobie ur fukin retarted my sisters husband is in the ARMY and my brother is in the Marine Corp and my sisters boyfriend knows that the Marine Corp is better then the ARMY i have respect for all services but some people are just fukin stupid like u and yes u can kill people with these im taught some of these in MMA and the neck crank and the face rip u can easily kill some 1 by a quick hit to the neck u obviusly dont know how to fight i know more then u and im 14
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as far as MAC goes, i was more under the impression that MAC tries to teach HOW to train rather than being trained to do certain manuevers at certain situations. its meant more to pump up your ethos rather than being a focused martial arts like MCMAP. nonetheless i know very little about it so i dont claim to know how effective it is. anyways i dont see how its better than MCMAP.
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cyberwaffles 1 day ago
All that grinding... You forgot to kiss each other
DmakAttack 1 week ago
black belt? your kidding me right? what a joke
Marilynagbulos 2 weeks ago
@Marilynagbulos Ya youll be laughin when u meet me
caliwldfire 5 days ago
the funny thing is that neither of these guys or anyone in the army would stand a slight chance against any one in the UFC
rosslegend 2 weeks ago
@rosslegend Some of these Soldiers and Marines fight in combatives tournaments. Not to mention some UFC fighters are veterans.
QBALL85 2 weeks ago
@rosslegend the difference between UFC fighters and Marines is that UFC fighters are trained to fight and endure a match. Marines are taught to kill as quickly and efficiently as possible. if a UFC fighter were to try to take a Marine down to the ground for some ground and pound, guarantee you in a life or death situation that UFC fighter won't be getting back up. two totally different fighting philosophies.
nonetheless, a lot of veterans (regardless of branch) go into UFC.
cyberwaffles 2 weeks ago
@cyberwaffles You don't know much about the UFC or hand to hand to hand combat do you? A UFC fighter would destroy a Marine in straight hand to hand.
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purely fighting, i dont deny what you say in some aspects, but as i stated before they are still two totally different philosophies.
its like what a krav maga instructor told a ufc fighter in a sparring match, "you're a real good ring fighter, but you have no skill in self defence." conversely, a lot of ufc members are former vets. i even mildly considered amatuer MMA after service but i didnt think i could go far.
also, i know what i was trained in before so dont knock my experience.
cyberwaffles 1 day ago
@rosslegend you must smoke crack. look up on youtube when them pussys come to a MCMAP training session
caliwldfire 5 days ago
@rosslegend are you a dumb ass.. UFC fighters train w/ the marines look it up on youtube or the marines website. you sir a dumb shit
xXBadCompanyEliteXx 1 day ago
gotta love MCMAP and the Corps., the only branch that has mandatory martial arts.
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@cyberwaffles I would have loved the army more if they had that.
QBALL85 2 weeks ago
@QBALL85 yeah, it would make sense if all ground forces were taught mandatory martial arts. maybe one day the army will incorporate it.
nonetheless, all the branches serve the same flag and get the job done.
cyberwaffles 2 weeks ago
@cyberwaffles Btw, the Army has its own combative program, and frankly, it's a shit ton better than MCMAP
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cyberwaffles 1 day ago
OH THATS NOTHING I COULD BEAT THEM BOTH UP
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betthisonesfree 1 month ago
And when it goes beyond that, it has served us very well. Plenty of accounts of that in the last decade. So I think we are just fine, thanks. There might be something mental to it, but talk to a vet who has applied what they have learned.
RT378 1 month ago
While there is a curriculum, it depends on the instructor. You might be taught all manner of things outside of the curriculum. The overall idea is a flexible system that allows you to move from non-lethal>lethal very easily. Most of our time spent in the last 10 years was as a security/police force.
RT378 1 month ago
For those saying MCMAP is useless, you may be forgetting a very important fact about the whole reason for the institution of it. MCMAP is not and has never been developed for 5-10 minute fights, it's not meant to put against other styles in a ring type environment and tested in an arena. It's put into place to quickly dispatch a target and make them compliant within seconds. There's not a reset. You don't go home afterwards and hope for better luck next time. It's for combat situations.
Misstakeda 1 month ago
@Misstakeda It's not developed to use for lengthy fights. Anyone who tries to use it in MMA or anything more than a street fight would quickly find themselves outmatched. It's instant, it's quick, it's over. You don't take Ju Jitsu into combat and hope to get into some 1v1 fights and show your skill. That's not even intelligent.
Misstakeda 1 month ago
@Misstakeda Eh, debatable. There's more to MCMAP than that though, and for some reason I don't understand why people don't see it, even Marines miss it. MCMAP is design to help develop the "warrior spirit" to fight no matter what happens. It even says that in the motto "one mind, any weapon" The purpose to MCMAP is not for hand to hand, b/c frankly, its terrible for combatives anyway, but to increase a Marines willingness to fight
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
I know that Don't ask don't tell as been repelled in the Army/Air force/Navy but as it been repelled from the Marines? (I kinda find the idea of gay Marines funny and awesome).
sErgEantaEgis12 1 month ago
My father is MFR (SOCOM) hes a Major people say oh these moves dont work and what not now lemme tell u this 1 18 yr old Marine having a bad day can take on 1-5 27 yr olds in a fight and win
runeman1996 1 month ago
@runeman1996 The techniques are just fine, and Mcmap is a great program but it's not that amazing. Marine combative training is weapons training, not very good hand to hand
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
As a Marine myself, these techniques would work I guess, against another untrained or somewhat untrained opponent, it's not like I expect every Marine to be able to beat a decent MMA fighter to be called a good fighter, but it's kind of hard NOT to when I see a bunch of guys thinking they're bad asses in my Baracks because of MCMAP, hopefully they don't pick a fight with a violent MMA fighter who has no regard for safety or they will learn the hard way haha.
myloveforMMA 2 months ago
@myloveforMMA Lolol same with some guys who trained traditional martial arts. I help teach street self defense, but that stuff wont work if youre trying to be a badass against a trained opponent. I also do MMA and train in MCMAP. Shit just turns out comparing a sturdy table to one that's held up by 2 legs. No comparison at all haha. However if you try to stay out of trouble and you gotta protect your life and run, this stuff definitely delivers and makes me love my job.
CommanderYuan 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA Mcmap is great for combat haha, excellent weapons training, not the best hand to hand though haha :P
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw I agree, excellent weapons training, and definitely not the best for hand to hand, actually to me, MCMAP is just a little above your tae kwon doe gym
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA What do you think of MACP (Modern Army Combative Program)?
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw Pretty much the same thing, but instead of Marines, U.S. Army personnel train in it. I personally don't think highly of MCMAP or MACP or Krav Maga for hand to hand combat or self defense applications. You want to be able to hurt someone with your hands, elbows, feet, knees, and slams and submissions, then you have to train HARD at it, not just practice a few 50% speed moves. Which is why I am a huge MMA fan even for self defense. News story were an MMA fighter took a muggers gun away.
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA Are you still in the Marines? And how much, or often, do you train? Because there is a difference between combative training/ fighting and sport training/ fighting
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw Yeah, the difference is that combatives training is like McDojo stuff. The only good thing I took from Combatives stuff is fighting with a knife, bayonet, and stick. Hand to hand it is completely useless. I made it to brown belt, and decided, no... this is just wasting my time, everyone thinks your a bad ass for wearing a blackbelt though it's quite hilarious.
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA I disagree, here's why- you probably don't understand that almost all martial arts, well the modern variants, are all for sport. Tae Kwon Do, Kick Boxing, Karate, etc. If you want a true combative, hand to hand martial art, that is proven then you'll find it in Ju Jitsu. Specifically Goshin Ju Jitsu, although you will find great combative training with BJJ or Gracie Ju Jitsu. And frankly, it's proven to work for self defense and MMA, just look at Gracie history.
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw No trust me man, you can go on ahead and believe that you can become a great MMA fighter with a MCMAP or MACP blackbelt, or you can believe that you can kick any thugs ass with one of those two (if you had a knife, stick, or rifle/bayonet then yes but you don't carry those with you all the time) but empty handed, besides the eye gouge and throat manipulation and groin kick, there's not much and even that is kind of weak bro.
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA I'm not saying Mcmap or MACP will make someone a great MMA fighter (trust me, I was suppose to fight this spring but then I stopped training due to personal reasons) But you're looking at this from a very narrow point of view, I know because I use to talk like that. What kind of hand to hand training have you received?
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw Well I was born in Brazil, and I've been doing BJJ for more than 10 years now, I joined Chute Boxe about 6 years ago, which they teach their aggressive Muay Thai that has spawned fighters from there such as Shogun, Wanderlie, and Anderson. I've recently been training at a Muay Thai gym here in Los Angeles, and obviously I did MCMAP having been in the Marines getting my useless brown belt. And you sir?
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA Good I was hoping you would say BJJ haha, and I've done Tae Kwon Do with a mix of Hapkido (but that was years ago), currently, I'm training in Kick Boxing, and Goshin Ju Jitsu with a mix of BJJ. What belt are you in BJJ? you've gotta be pretty high if you've been doing it that long. And I agree, Mcmap= useless
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
@Hav0kftw I am a black belt in Gracie JJ. The problem with Martial Arts like MCMAP and Krav Maga, is they don't teach the basics. How is someone going to strike the throat and eyes hard, when MCMAP doesn't teach you how to be a decent striker? How are you going to put people on chokes and get out of them if it doesn't teach you to be a decent grappler? If you taught a very good MMA fighter some Krav Maga or MCMAP he might be able to benefit from it. How is Goshin Ju Jitsu?
myloveforMMA 1 month ago
@myloveforMMA Oh very nice! And yeah.. I think we're arguing the same thing hahah I totally agree. I've watched many many many Marines and soldiers fight and frankly, they're all pretty bad at it. Even the instructors aren't very good (although, I have seen some very decent fights with potential to become even better). And Goshin is pretty good, what makes it really cool is that my instructor mixes BJJ in with it so it's not just stand up combatives we actually work a lot of ground
Hav0kftw 1 month ago
They could use some kali training!!!!!!!!
TexasRob28 2 months ago
umm... I saw a tan belt in there.
simplecommonsense1 2 months ago
I think if the people were trying to counter it wouldn't be good for demonstration purposes, these moves still work trust me.
flowerscankill 2 months ago
I did these to my friend at school. I got jumped by 39 football players.
HeartGraphics 2 months ago
@HeartGraphics Dude don't do this in normal life, these are meant to be killing moves and you could of accidentally killed that friend of yours.
kalo484 2 weeks ago
@kalo484 Where did you learn your Jiu Jitsu from? Hardly any of these are killing moves.
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arhageman 2 months ago
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Hard to see the practicality of having marines memorize arm and knee bars. If somebody was trying to kill me, I doubt I'd be so kind.
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arhageman 2 months ago
Everyone's a killer now. Nice video though a lot of good training and transitions. I like a lot of the moves because they are easily learned. I was a SGT, but not a black belt, so it's nice to see some of the moves. I mean I still train like the MARINE I still am. Everyone needs to start taking what the videos are for and improving their own game. Instead those who do the least make the dumdass comments.
SuperGrant000 2 months ago
I'm about to go through my black belt course and it was awesome to get such a nice preview of what I've got in store. Great video.
deuces4life2 2 months ago
I swear my friend tried to teach me these. The only thing is that the only way he shows me something is by using it on me so that I know what the target feels...
CaoTabuenaProduction 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
Is it bad that i got in fight and did some of these? o:
MrCheesycheetoman 2 months ago
@MrCheesycheetoman More than likely.
LOLwutwaithowsrsly 2 months ago
If its so "embarrassing" to watch, how about you pick a fight with a Marine. Even a POG would kill you. Everybody on youtube is a fucking expert these days.... SEMPER FI.
datguy197 3 months ago
Ohh Yea , A guy is just gonna stand there like that waiting for you to flip him . Ha ha ha ha Black Belt MY ASS !! These fuckers don't even know what a Neutral Bow Stance is or how to put up a good Guard ! Ohhh God ! This is Fucken Embarrassing to watch !
nicktesla45 3 months ago
@nicktesla45 so why are you watching the damn video you fucking little civilian piece of shit. i hate MCMAP, but I hate when civilians talk shit about it, I bet all you do is karate or all that shit, Marines are trained to Kill and survive in combat you fucking little piece of shit.
elperrito302 3 months ago
@elperrito302 Calm-down Kid ! I did not mean to make you piss in your diapers Junior. And do NOT make assumtions about what I know or don't know. An assumtion is the Mother of all fuck-ups . Never underestimate your enemy Junior , A guy like me can kill you with a Fucken Sling-shot or a Credit Card ! I can take out a sentry without making a sound and he would'nt even see who killed him. Ha ha ha ha relax Kid , we are both on tha same side ! You just learn to keep your head down! OK ?
nicktesla45 3 months ago
@nicktesla45 ok dumb fuck I think we are even and I am not pissed I am just trying hard to get the top comment and I see that there are 467 likes and only 11 dislikes and one is mine hahhh biotch. so if I defend MCMAP's Honor I might get the top comment. fuck you and your killer credit card and make sure you have all your money on your checking so the the credicard can't get rejected hahaha biotch
elperrito302 3 months ago
the deadliest form of kamasutra
gen0zid 3 months ago 4
they should have never got rid of line training. all these submitions are cool and all but the marine corps isnt ufc. i went through some mcmap and i went through line training and line training was far deadlier. the first tecnique tought you how to break bones and kill someone. yes some of the line training was not very good but i dont want to tap an enemy out, i want to end his life as fast as possible.
danthman114 3 months ago
Gay
gladiatorjayme 3 months ago
@gladiatorjayme You're gay
sipking707 3 months ago
@gladiatorjayme I would call this pretty informative for people looking into joining the Corps, actually. Not "gay". These are techniques that can save servicemen's lives.
MrAlexH1991 3 months ago
@MrAlexH1991 And anyway, even if it looks gay, it's better to look gay (not that it's wrong) for a few seconds than being dead.
sErgEantaEgis12 2 months ago
@sErgEantaEgis12 Precisely. I'd rather be straddling a dude and subduing him from raping/killing me than letting it happen. Lol
MrAlexH1991 2 months ago
There are sheeps and wolves, and if you take orders that can get you killed, then, good sir, you'r a sheep.
MursuTheMan 3 months ago
@MursuTheMan
*you're
AlexWerkmeister712 3 months ago
Marines are mindless sheeps that like to be commanded. Keep this up guys, you are the ones that end dying in war anyways, because a bunch of old fags command you to hahaha
mrajaraven 3 months ago
@mrajaraven Actually Marines don't die very often haha.
cccEngineer 3 months ago 8
@cccEngineer Only because the wars they'r in are against smaller countries without "USA level" firepower. Iran, Irak, ouh c'mon, why would you go blast away a country of peaceful people. Stop messing with the world!
MursuTheMan 3 months ago
@MursuTheMan We are not fighting the country, as a matter of fact we are training and helping the country. All the countries with "USA level" firepower are our friends, so we don't have much of a problem there...
airsoft3321 3 months ago
@cccEngineer haha
zerotsilence 3 months ago
@cccEngineer OOORRRAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
1sXo3 1 month ago
@mrajaraven You sound slow. Have you seen how many Marines die in COMBAT (We havent been any wars recently, only Police Actions) recently, Compared to the number of troops there are? Your a "mindless sheep" that has followed false information. HOORAH SEMPER FI!
sipking707 2 months ago
Why is it that everyone plebe that learns martial arts at their local shopping mall thinks they can “kick the ass of any US Marine?” I’m in Northern Virginia right outside of Quantico and no one is running around town challenging Marines in martial arts sparring matches or fights. There is good reason for that. In reality, a US Marine will school you in a very humbling way. The awesome “skills” you learned at the “MMA dojo” located between the Gap and Cinnabon will not help you.
TimeLordGuitar 3 months ago 2
1:43 hits core/aw/did artery
mongeku1000 4 months ago
00:37 why fall over when u could pull the leg under yours and fall back
mongeku1000 4 months ago
@mongeku1000 Rolling into it gives you the better chance of having an effective knee bar, and if you decide to just fall back onto them they are in a better position for a choke.
Xangba 3 months ago
Holy crap one of those guys looks like what my uncle looked like years ago while he was on active duty...And I will shit bricks if it was the one named Sgt Garcia (Garcia's my uncles last name..) However, he's a 1st Sgt.
deftones77077 4 months ago
MCMAP i got my green belt than switched to krav maga ask any marine who can actually fight an didnt join the corps because they was bitchs in highschool an wanted to become tough that mcmap will get your ass kicked LOL
XxMerc050xX 4 months ago
@XxMerc050xX Both Krav Maga and MCMAP are very effective, though Krav Maga is rather simple. Perhaps you just couldn't effectively perform MCMAP.
Xangba 3 months ago
@Xangba only marines who dedicate there time learning an becoming a black belt in mcmap are dumb enough to believe that lol its very easy to get your belts in mcmap. The one thing i do like about mcmap is that when in the marines you can tell some of the people who joined got teased or bullied in highschool and join the marines thinkin there gonna get tough an learn mcmap an they just end up gettin bullied an getting there ass beat in the corps lol maybe your one of them
XxMerc050xX 3 months ago
@XxMerc050xX No I'm one the guys who joined to actually fight for my country and not to just feel like a badass. I sure as hell don't want someone watching my back who joined for bragging rights and can't even figure out how to properly perform MCMAP
Xangba 3 months ago
@Xangba I dont brag about mcmap lol i dont talk about being in the marines anymore im a civilian only reason i joined was to kill some fuck in iraq an not have to worry about facing prison time for it lol marines are good for 1 thing slaughtering iraqis an afghans for sport
XxMerc050xX 3 months ago
@Xangba I like you my friend we have a common bond in that we both have killed for our country an bathed in the blood of our comrades who fell to the enemy. It is better to die for your country than live for yourself
XxMerc050xX 3 months ago
Am I the only one who laughs when he sees two guys in camo rolling around and hugging each other?
TheBamChug 4 months ago
Whats the name of the track playing
BloodBountyHunter 4 months ago
Black Belt?
Rikashiku 4 months ago 6
@Rikashiku
camo belt
kakajunnmunn 2 months ago
@Rikashiku Ya Marine Corps Martial Arts I think the lowest belt is tan, and the highest is 2nd degree black belt.
pollyman4206 1 month ago
Head Cranking is the best!
flippyot 4 months ago
This is always cool to watch.
c3m3nth3ad 4 months ago
Thunder punch to groin works 99% of the time
Fgfu10 4 months ago
I was told the Marines removed the knee bar from the MCMAP because of it's execution.
AzNd3v1L6 4 months ago
Still, the most effective move in a hand to hand combat situation is something you never see in training for obvious reasons. Boot to the groin.
Monstretundersengen 4 months ago
Always love watching me roll around on top of one another :)
MrTreylynch 5 months ago
Listen, you do have to learn ground grappling techniques but what was demonstrated here will not work on the battlefield but it will work on 1v1and if the enemy is not armed. Because while you're setting up the triangle, I am pulling out an 8 inch knife and stabbing you with it ...
pcjudosambo 5 months ago
@pcjudosambo so you have to wait until he's about to triangle you to pull out your knife? you wouldn't think of pulling it out before it got to a ground fighting situation?
bizitch71717 5 months ago
@bizitch71717 no but if during a fight suddenly it goes to the ground, a fighter would pull a knife.
pcjudosambo 5 months ago
@pcjudosambo that's assuming a lot. but ok assume all you want. oh and if you pull a knife out and just stab somebody who tackles you, that is considered overuse of force and you would be prosecuted and convicted of voluntary manslaughter. just some food for thought before you offer more words of wisdom
bizitch71717 4 months ago
@bizitch71717 when I was talking about a knife, I was talking in an combat situation (hence we're watching Marines training) ... I am not talking a street fight.
pcjudosambo 4 months ago
Main point of this is to hold him down so your buddy can shoot him,.
MrMotocall 5 months ago
this is bad ass!
spearthrower420 5 months ago
@itsPrivateYam Maybe, but they don't have to do it with boots and 80+ pounds of gear after hiking dozens of miles over several days. There's a difference.
deadline0602 5 months ago
hmm... MCMAP.
echo1er 5 months ago
MCMAP overall is useless it has gotten soft over the past few decades, its more for show now than it was used for war. It was onced used to be a brute force for killing and now if you tried any of these moves in a fight against anyone who has a decent background in Martial Arts you would get your ass kicked, just cause your a Marine doesn't make you an instant badass. I just wish I i didn't have to hear this from my instructor so now im stopping at my brownbelt and training in Muay Thai
88isthenumber 5 months ago
@88isthenumber Really? MCMAP hasn't only existed in it's present form for a decade.
Just like any martial arts if you don't practice it and put in the time in the dojo/mat/gym or whatever, yes, you will get your ass kicked by someone else who has.
Liek any martial art, if you don't believe in it, stop practicing it and do something else. But please don't put it down just because you can't make it work for you. I could just as easily put down Muay Thai as it has no ground game.
deadline0602 5 months ago
@bellcurve2 hmm, could be. Interesting to see the similarities in martial arts.
SOCOMSoldier01 5 months ago
do they teach this at devil pups
EpiKProphecy09 5 months ago
Most of these moves start out with the subject just standing still. How do they know this will work in real life?
TheEagerMcBeaver 5 months ago
@TheEagerMcBeaver After sparring or doing anything hands-on for a long time in a fighting sport, your body gets muscle memory and hitting shit that moves becomes easy. I did tae kwon do till I was a 1st poom, and by then I was able to kick someone in the face while they were moving. Of course, things don't work out 100% of the time in a spar or fight, but I guess that's why people in the military have guns in case they mess up.
MapleSephiroth 5 months ago
Most of this is straight Judo.
1st technique: Harai goshi with an O goshi grip around the back.
2nd technique. Sankaku jime or the triangle choke.
3rd technique: Hadaka jime or guillotine
4th technique: Hiza Garami or Knee bar
5th technique: Not listed but done at 0:45 quickly, is Ude Garami or arm entanglement.
6th technique: Kesa Garami or armbar from Kesa Gatame(Scarf hold)
7th technique: Sankaku Garami or 3 point arm entanglement
noose357 6 months ago 24
@noose357 Your correct,im a judoka and i notice every one of these techniques
Fragme1212 5 months ago
@noose357 This is true, but remember MCMAP is a moified version of various different forms of martial arts to be used in a combat environment. So all of the moves you'll see are probably going to be either the same or very similar to a move you could learn in any other nartial art, minus a few ones that are only taught to the US military. at least as far as my knowledge goes :)
Dedicated222Duty 4 months ago
@Dedicated222Duty I didn't say ALL of McMap is Judo, I just meant most of this video is Judo, which is why I listed the techniques seen in the demonstration. It is mixed, but most techniques seen here are in fact Judo or Jujitsu (not bjj)
noose357 4 months ago
@noose357 Most. MCMAP is a hybrid martial art that draws from many sources.
jollygreenspartan 4 months ago
@jollygreenspartan I know, I didn't say of MCMAP. I said most of this, referring to this video.
noose357 4 months ago
@noose357 well yeah... the Marines went around taking the best moves and ways from many different martial arts.
EUAG1 4 months ago
@noose357 or you could call it MCMAP that would be easier.
xJROIDx 4 months ago
@xJROIDx To refer to it as a whole. But I can't refer to Judo/Jujitsu techniques as MCMAP when they already have a name and origin. I prefer to be educated about what's what rather than have it be "easier".
noose357 4 months ago
@xJROIDx or you could call it what it actually is, which would be judo, or jiu jitsu tecniques
devonmac95 4 months ago
@devonmac95 It's not just that though bitch.
xJROIDx 4 months ago
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@xJROIDx why are you so mad bro?
devonmac95 4 months ago
@noose357 either you have a lot of internet prowess or actually know what your talking about judo is the best
thegreat1141 4 months ago
@thegreat1141 I'm not an expert, but I do know basic Judo lol =P There's a video on my channel of me performing juji gatame in a shiai if you wanna check it out. It's the only vid so far, but I plan to have more.
noose357 4 months ago
@noose357 i was in judo when i was little, still can throw someone around if i feel so inclined it's probably the most useful martial art ever in my opinion
thegreat1141 4 months ago
@thegreat1141 Oh, man Judo is beautiful and efficient, powerful and VERY effective as I'm sure you know.
noose357 4 months ago
@noose357 Especially when you figure out the difference between throwing someone to the ground, and throwing someone at the ground, with judo there isn't really a fight there is a grab, a thud, some flailing limbs, and your on your way down the road haha.
thegreat1141 4 months ago
@thegreat1141 First time i saw judo, i wasn't sure if the person was throwing a person to the ground or at the ground, maybe cause i watched too much wrestling lol.
OVERCAPITALIZE 4 months ago
@noose357 You do know that most of the MCMAP techniques are direct derivatives of finishing submission moves all borrowed from Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese martial arts, including Judo, right? The Marine Corps decided to do a reform of its battle philosophy to include 'peacekeeping' techniques that don't always involve killing, but also subduing, if the attacker needs to be kept alive for interrogation, mission purposes, etc.
MrAlexH1991 3 months ago
@MrAlexH1991 Jujitsu or Judo for that matter, are NOT Korean or Chinese or Vietnamese.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you didn't know those martial arts are of Japanese descent, you need to do some homework. I'm completely aware of why the Marines changed their combat principles, but it's still a large portion of Judo and Jujitsu.
noose357 3 months ago
@MrAlexH1991 Right. Please, excuse my mistake. Either way, I was just attempting to help you understand why these techniques are included in the MCMAP fighting method. It was all borrowed from foreign styles, then mixed with the killing techniques Marines were already learning before. Before, all Marines were trained in was regular boxing and killing, now they're trained in reactive martial arts that can subdue instead of kill. That's why its called Marine Corps Martial Arts Program now.
MrAlexH1991 3 months ago
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JimiPikku 6 months ago
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JimiPikku 6 months ago
Neck crank take down looks like a technique out of Wing Chun.
SOCOMSoldier01 6 months ago
MCMAP is a mix of every fighting style in the world but better because it has moves to counter everything you could think of doing... ORAAH
97devilpup 6 months ago
1st throw was straight from judo, kubonagi-ni i think. id recognize that anywhere
allshallbelosttoyou 6 months ago
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noose357 6 months ago
what song was used?
AgentSmiley 6 months ago
what rank do you have to be to be a black belt
picklejarwontopen 6 months ago
@picklejarwontopen as i remember it your actual rank and your MCMAP rank are independent of each other. its rare to see anyone under ssgt with a black belt because most units are super picky when clearing guys to go through the training.
punxone 6 months ago
@punxone why are they picky about it do you know?
picklejarwontopen 6 months ago
jiu-jitsu
666zero666zero 6 months ago
@GodZxSAINT lmfao you think your week of training can stand up to my 5 years? try me pussy id smack you around. all those marines are skinny little weak sticks...
ghilliemann 6 months ago
@ghilliemann
Oh, damn. Well, im not gonna waste too much time on your immature ass(ghilliemann?stop playing COD)okay, well our "1 week of training", is just the basic shit. after that, in order to get the blackbelt, you have to go through alot more. This isnt your little 300 dollar martial arts program, this is training men for war. i dont usually talk smack over the internet, but i will most definatley submit you in less then 10 seconds. i donot care if youre the fucking hulk.
LCplPickering 6 months ago
@LCplPickering lil pussboy id knock the shit out of in less than 5 seconds. and any of your little "blackbelts"
ghilliemann 6 months ago
@ghilliemann Okay to start, five years of what? While I wait for an answer allow me to say that many martial arts are agreed to be too stiff and unrealistic by themselves. Also, MCMAP is part of being a Marine, it's something you are expected to know inside and out without hesitation. Hell in training alonr you repeat motions to the point it's a natural motion for your body. Understand what you're talking about before you think you're better that what you haven't faced.
Xangba 6 months ago
And yes they learn Krav but not enough. The military needs to invest their money into making all marines Krav Maga blackbelts
dr4wheeler 7 months ago
Marines are fucking awesome but the techniques they learn in MCMAP are irrelevant to battle. Krav Maga is the most realistic self defense/assassination program on the planet. I know this because Ive been in martial arts for a long time. BJJ helps but rolling around on the ground will not save you from multiple attackers. Krav Maga teaches you gun and knife disarms, how to deal with multiple attackers, kill shots, and more. If the military wants to truly help our heroes they need to teach them KM
dr4wheeler 7 months ago
@dr4wheeler First off, I do agree with you, Krav Maga is very useful. I'm just pointing some things out. Also, MCMAP does teach disarms at higher belts. Anyway, MCMAP is as much about teaching discipline and focus as it is fighting. It has moves all across the board to offer flexibility in non-combat situations as well. If your life is at risk there are plenty of counters and lethal moves taught with everything else. Focus, discipline, self-defense and flexibility are the goals of MCMAP.
Xangba 6 months ago
@dr4wheeler I am pretty sure that learning how to bayonet someone in the gut is relevant. Has been since the rifle was invented, and the spear before that. Same argument was used when nukes were invented...."Why teach hand to hand combat when we have nukes now....."
Krav isn't much different than MCMAP, or Army Combatives (if a person bothers to actually go beyond looking at the pictures.)
They are all good systems and they all have tremendous overlap.
deadline0602 5 months ago
pussy marines id knock any of them out...barley have any hand to hand combat training i got years id smack 1 around silly till he asked for his mommy
ghilliemann 7 months ago
@ghilliemann haha! you're a funny guy. a bit delusional, but you are still funny. regardless, if you ever do knock out a Marine please film it, but just don't get too close to him cuz if he's a real Marine, he'll get back up. And then you're screwed buddy.
agnzls19 7 months ago
I like the idea of the MCMAP being versatile in its approach but in battle your not going to tap a fucking enemy that plans to kill you and you can bet that he is going to have hundreds of friends. They need to change their program and gear it more towards being lethal with every move and be something along the lines of fairbairn combatives following the principles.
MrAaronch 7 months ago
i want to join the marines because of the immense pride that swells in my chest when i see them march my cousin was a fine marine and he died one i want to make him and my country proud
lionmane99 7 months ago
the rolling knee bar: Isn't that a "signature move" for the Marines?
david640 7 months ago
This is some fine training. We do it different in the army though, marines are more concentrated on the standing takedown side of it
Str8j4ck3t 7 months ago
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RatKannon 7 months ago
im going to be a marine but sorry this is marine porn
cripcuhz211 7 months ago