Misha Mengelberg & Han Bennink Duo - Improvisation

[vacuumtube1954]

Thank you for posting. Damn a great duet here. Enjoying this very much.

[jovesheerwater]

oh dear, a cat fight. take it outside ladees.

[jerry88keys]

Nou, als ik me even niet goed voel, kijk/luister ik hiernaar en 't is als sneeuw voor de zon verdwenen.... 2:28 - geweldig, die drumstok krabbelt op zijn rug en Han kijkt er vervolgens met een vermanende blik naar. Wat een theater!

[fsamir111]

@heathdwatts, please type in, in the youtube search engine "rubalcaba autumn leaves". There you will find three guys who play through the changes... Here you will also cry from boredom? Generally, the music, based on the achievements of John Cage, quickly leads to saturation and boredom. Probably because of that is formed the artistic movement known as the "New simplicity". Igor Stravinsky once said: "If the critics would left me alone, I could still write a lot in the field of tonal music."

[Wex1117]

Han Bennink is fucking CRAZY good. God damn.

[jaerules]

무소유 형님 이런거는 어디서 구하셨습니까? ㅋㅋ 참으로 신기하무니다.

[EndlessNot1]

@jaerules q4qq e3233457 htys

[FrozenNymph]

This is impossible. How wonderful Bennink follows Mengelberg!

[fsamir111]

Heathwatts, in my opinion, that's, what we saw and heard here, is not bad, but, musician needs to know to play the "changes" too, and sometimes to show and prove that he is able to do that. A lot of quackery hide behind these things in the modern history of art, so it's normal that people become suspicious, and more are turning to tradition.

[heathdwatts]

@fsamir111 Indian sitar players don't know how to play the changes of jazz. Are they quacks? These players have nothing to prove to you, me, or anyone. They are masters of their own domain. These two players have been developing their own language for almost fifty years and to call them quacks is to dismiss a vast amount of great music. Ornette Coleman, Cecli Taylor, Albert Ayler, and others planted the seeds for this music in the early 1960s, and it has developed worldwide since then.

[fsamir111]

@heathdwatts when you carefully read my original post, you will find that I said that what we heard here is not bad. I said that, in generally, behind modern art hid a lot of quackery. So I still think. However, the style shown here is not more modern and avant-garde as some would like it to be. That was during the 60th's. Now the other things are modern. I appreciate the effort to be original, but not at any price.

[rekingooo]

its illegal

[NihilistSage]

I love the little cup of espresso and the preperation of the pianist.

[derguteNachtPief]

kann ich auch... dreckiger Free-Jazz!

[BuckshotLaFunke]

I like Mengelberg as a pianist, but I dislike his old goblin routines.

[jkrendel]

aw, it ended too soon

[jkrendel]

at first i thought misha was going to put his coat inside the piano

[johanstraatmans]

Top !

[jeffreycollins]

I wish I could take percussion lessions from Han...that dude is nutty insane genius.

[ADURG1]

gorgeous work by 2 masters! jeeZ! thanks!

[cvoisgreat]

ok, the pianist is alright but, but what the fuck was the drummer doin., he has no rhythm whatsoever and is just playing drums randomly. Even a 2 year old who has never seen or touched a drum set could have better rhythm than him.

[xxlasherxx]

You have a great deal to learn.

Start with a few classes in music theory.

Then go listen to some other "worse than two year olds" like Brötzmann, Zorn, Ayler, Weasel Walter, Drake, Coleman and Cage...After being completely horrified and overwhelmed go back to listening to 311.

Repeat.

Music is anything and everything.

Open your mind...it's way more fun.

[jeffreycollins]

hey come on now, what's so wrong with 311, they are a positive rock group that pushes boundaries. No where near as much as these two geniuses. But still.

And for John Zorn...CV, you need to listen to some Naked City. That'll fry your brain.

[BennyGaberMusic]

@xxlasherxx let's not also forget "the worse than two year olds" big band called the sun ra arkestra

[pjustusxi]

Mr. Bennink is one of the most well-respected drummers on the planet. He is fully capable of performing in a traditional jazz setting, moreso than most drummers. If you don't believe me, do a search here on YouTube for "A Night in Tunisia" with Johnny Griffin.

[DYNODRUM]

@pjustusxi Well done ;He, has played w/ some Jazz giants and some of these vids are luckily ,very lucky indeed ,available here on u-toob.

[lexo30]

@pjustusxi Agreed. Han Bennink is a fucking genius.

[lexo30]

@cvoisgreat Crap, and I'll tell you why. Other people have already dealt with the huge abysses in your musical knowledge, so I'll deal with the simple facts. Two year olds can't sit on the stool properly (they tend to fall off); they also keep dropping sticks, which this drummer never does; and their arms are so short that they can't reach the drums. I have a four-year-old daughter, so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research next time.

[ZEBU1212]

glow flow delights me so

[supergallas]

I'm i supposed to be hypocrit just for the sake of being modern?Ok,i love this music.Of course this is much better than Trane and Miles and the rest of those deaf guys...Oh my God,how come me being such a layer!yes,it's because i wanna be modern...Forgive me,Gods! J.G

[reesheund]

boring

[heathdwatts]

These guys listened to Trane and Miles, but they didn't want to be clones, like so many people are now. This is completely improvised music, not jazz. Han and Misha have developed their own language, based on their own experiences. I love Trane and Miles, but the're gone. Now, when someone tries to play like them it's like grave robbing. People like Han, Misha, Peter, Cecil, and others keep the music alive. LIstening to people play changes often bores me to tears.

[jthemump]

You know Mengelberg means business when the coat comes off...

[57anthony]

phew.... great stuff! thanks a lot for this clip!

[recyclablefluids]

this is amazing