I really don't feel like casting smite throughout an encounter but I know it improves my healing/gives me mana back with archangel! I would just rather heal! Ah the choices, I really can't decide!
@Fred334a She is Smite Healing, there's a talent in the disc tree called Atonment that allows you to heal raid members for the amoung dealed by smite/holy fire.
Nice video :D! I have a disc priest (alt toon) as well and she's mainly haste/crit reforged. And have never had a problem with healing that way and often find my heals are pretty high with it. Even did a raid the other day (BH) and had a shaman whisper me after the raid and tell me what an amazing healer I was because he didn't really have to heal so nothing of his was proccing haha.
Will check out your guide though :) Always looking for additional tips when it comes to disc healing !
If you smite heal. Yes, you need to favor haste/crit over mastery. but if you haven't specced into Archangel like I do then Mastery is your main stat. I try do get my haste so it cuts down atleast 2.2 sec cast on PoH & Greater Heal.
For most of DS fights there is time to smite heal and get your stacks up to use for the intense healing.
I smite heal alot on Yor'sahj Heroic and Ultraxion HC because of the enrage timer. I am MS holy and its the same thing. Love your Channel indie :) keep it up :D
@Vampretta666 Thanks for the comment! I will go further into the stat weight debate by testing them outside a smite spec just to see. I personally feel I would never put mastery above haste, and at best and depending on the situation might only ever put it slightly above crit. Mastery is much tastier to holy priests because echo of light is a HOT that results from every direct heal. Mastery for disc to me isn't as desirable because it depends on PWS usage and DA (which is crit dependant).
As per usual you did an amazing job, very informative and the fact that you went and reforged just to see if the people of YouTube were right is proof of your dedication to providing quality information(: Also, a welcome surprise to see that you replied to my comment last video, very rarely do I ever see that anymore(:
Very fight dependant, mastery should be favoured at say heroic hagara. Where you have to pre shield everyone taking the lances and tombs. If you don't chose to go holy ofc, for the DH in totem phase. Good video!
brilliant video like always indie, but i just need to clarify something for my priest, when you smite are you healing people who are attacking the boss? Just wondering :) xx
@Mg95a With the atonement build, when you smite heal a nearby friendly target for 100% of the smite damage dealt. I should note that in a real raid encounter it won't be like LFR where the inc overall raid damage is pretty low. So, yes I am healing the people who are attacking as well. =)
The ONLY thing i can find wrong with your research is that you did Looking for Raid, It's way to different from Live raiding, I would understand all of it if you had actually done it in live :/
@acdcfreakouter Yes I agree, and I state in the video LFR is in no way an awesome gauge for testing, but I just don't feel like making guinea pigs out of my guildies in a progression raid, lol. =)
@indiegarona Oh no, i completely understand ^^ but maybe throw together a raid once your no longer progressing? Say when you guys can like down the first boss 1 shot every time ie
@acdcfreakouter You know what, we do usually one shot Heroic Morchok. Maybe I will log the next one with higher mastery and much less crit to more properly compare. Thanks for the suggestion!
@fred334a i believe for one of the healing spec(disc) there is a way to use that spec where you use smite to cause a smart heal on ppl. so seeing her use smite while in a healing spec isnt a rare thing, if thats the way she specced her toon that day.
@Silmarieni ReforgeSaver, as noted in the video, is the addon I use to save reforge profiles. It is very handy as all you need to do is select the saved reforge profile when you need it, and it automatically takes care of the rest!
Ofcourse haste will be better when you are in LFR and people don't go below 80% health, It's called chart topping lolololololololololololololol crit gem lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
@bKLegaCey While this isn't the most educated response, if you listened to the narrative I state that I understand LFR was not the ultimate testing ground, and the only thing I was testing was really Divine Aegis shielding, which regardless of HPS comparison simply occurs nearly twice as much when I use a Haste>Crit>Mastery build.
You say you want the commenter to provide proof but can I see some proof from your end?
From all accounts I have seen Haste prevails with mastery close behind.
Mastery directly increases bubble size, while haste generally equals more heals and bubbles to get effected by mastery. Crit does not scale well enough to say it is equal to 1 point of mastery or better.
Saw this on EJ with some logs and spreadsheets pretty sure its the best route on any aoe healing fight of any description.
@Blackhammer9999 Hey, thanks for this input. I enjoy getting intelligent responses more than you know! I understand LFR is not ideal testing grounds, nor were two different encounters.This was just to support my feeling that more DA shields could be better than more potent PW:S's, and it certainly doesn't mean that my way is the only way. I must lastly admit I hate math and am lousy at it, so I will never venture to spreadsheet things or min/max (though I have much respect for those that can)!
heres the deal: i stacked mastery when i dinged 85 and i was doing well and this guide came out im doing much better i can do hardmode raids with ease and with mastery i got kicked alot ;p
i like this new tgn.. most of the old directors dont upload anymore.. people like indie just appears after several months they been away.. so mainstream this tgn has become..
i believe people should at least reforge to the stats you mentioned before posting "well your doing it wrong" and giving no information as why your doing it wrong and how you could fix it. great vid,i have a disc priest friend who i will be linking too :)
★ lol
AngelishDevil123 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the info Indie.
Deathzstarzz 1 month ago in playlist Season 1
I really don't feel like casting smite throughout an encounter but I know it improves my healing/gives me mana back with archangel! I would just rather heal! Ah the choices, I really can't decide!
fearxlink 1 month ago
@Fred334a She is Smite Healing, there's a talent in the disc tree called Atonment that allows you to heal raid members for the amoung dealed by smite/holy fire.
Grievousig101 1 month ago
what about non AA/A...?
TheStormie456 1 month ago
Stop playing WoW and stay in the kitchen!
SilentStryker25 1 month ago
@SilentStryker25 I do a little bit of both =)
indiegarona 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
Nice video :D! I have a disc priest (alt toon) as well and she's mainly haste/crit reforged. And have never had a problem with healing that way and often find my heals are pretty high with it. Even did a raid the other day (BH) and had a shaman whisper me after the raid and tell me what an amazing healer I was because he didn't really have to heal so nothing of his was proccing haha.
Will check out your guide though :) Always looking for additional tips when it comes to disc healing !
nacochan 1 month ago
I dont even do PvE or play a priest, But your voice is amazing.
xFmJSiiCkShOtx 1 month ago
CONGRATS Indie on the 1 year anniversary!
fifolon 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
@Vampretta666 I have no idea what disc does but your comment was well thought out and well written with good back-up. Hope she reads it. :D
LmfaoWintoPwn 1 month ago
@LmfaoWintoPwn I do indeed read them all and I agree that the comment was very well thought out!
indiegarona 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
If you smite heal. Yes, you need to favor haste/crit over mastery. but if you haven't specced into Archangel like I do then Mastery is your main stat. I try do get my haste so it cuts down atleast 2.2 sec cast on PoH & Greater Heal.
For most of DS fights there is time to smite heal and get your stacks up to use for the intense healing.
I smite heal alot on Yor'sahj Heroic and Ultraxion HC because of the enrage timer. I am MS holy and its the same thing. Love your Channel indie :) keep it up :D
Vampretta666 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
@Vampretta666 Thanks for the comment! I will go further into the stat weight debate by testing them outside a smite spec just to see. I personally feel I would never put mastery above haste, and at best and depending on the situation might only ever put it slightly above crit. Mastery is much tastier to holy priests because echo of light is a HOT that results from every direct heal. Mastery for disc to me isn't as desirable because it depends on PWS usage and DA (which is crit dependant).
indiegarona 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
As per usual you did an amazing job, very informative and the fact that you went and reforged just to see if the people of YouTube were right is proof of your dedication to providing quality information(: Also, a welcome surprise to see that you replied to my comment last video, very rarely do I ever see that anymore(:
beating0slowly 1 month ago
@beating0slowly Thank you! I do always read comments and love to take some time to sit and reply to them. =)
indiegarona 1 month ago
I still remember wowangel:) you're doing a fantastic job Indie keep up the good work! ^^
SIrDowns 1 month ago
Very fight dependant, mastery should be favoured at say heroic hagara. Where you have to pre shield everyone taking the lances and tombs. If you don't chose to go holy ofc, for the DH in totem phase. Good video!
MrWow1wow 1 month ago
@MrWow1wow Thanks for the input! However, it should be noted that on Heroic Hagara atonement heals will go through and heal ice tombed targets!
indiegarona 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
brilliant video like always indie, but i just need to clarify something for my priest, when you smite are you healing people who are attacking the boss? Just wondering :) xx
Mg95a 1 month ago
@Mg95a With the atonement build, when you smite heal a nearby friendly target for 100% of the smite damage dealt. I should note that in a real raid encounter it won't be like LFR where the inc overall raid damage is pretty low. So, yes I am healing the people who are attacking as well. =)
indiegarona 1 month ago
Awesome vid! I have a lvl 84 disc priest, and when I now know what to reforge etc. will save me a lot of time and gold, thank you! :)
mehliin 1 month ago
you know why i'm jealous .. u have very neat spell bars :P
arashghm1992 1 month ago
The ONLY thing i can find wrong with your research is that you did Looking for Raid, It's way to different from Live raiding, I would understand all of it if you had actually done it in live :/
acdcfreakouter 1 month ago
@acdcfreakouter Yes I agree, and I state in the video LFR is in no way an awesome gauge for testing, but I just don't feel like making guinea pigs out of my guildies in a progression raid, lol. =)
indiegarona 1 month ago
@indiegarona Oh no, i completely understand ^^ but maybe throw together a raid once your no longer progressing? Say when you guys can like down the first boss 1 shot every time ie
acdcfreakouter 1 month ago
@acdcfreakouter You know what, we do usually one shot Heroic Morchok. Maybe I will log the next one with higher mastery and much less crit to more properly compare. Thanks for the suggestion!
indiegarona 1 month ago
@indiegarona np? :P
acdcfreakouter 1 month ago
can't figure it out... Is she DPS or Healer ? only seeing her DPS'ing
fred334a 1 month ago
@fred334a disc is heals
urbanpanda1 1 month ago
@fred334a both my friend
mangekomigen 1 month ago
@fred334a i believe for one of the healing spec(disc) there is a way to use that spec where you use smite to cause a smart heal on ppl. so seeing her use smite while in a healing spec isnt a rare thing, if thats the way she specced her toon that day.
hillwarrior6 1 month ago
@fred334a As an atonement spec disc priest, I am both! But in a real raid outside LFR the dps is much less, as I have much less time to smite spam.
indiegarona 1 month ago
When you say "reforge profile" do you have an addon or some way to automate reforging in-game?
Silmarieni 1 month ago
@Silmarieni it says the name of the mod on the screen when she says it....
prankstaRdbFtw 1 month ago
@Silmarieni ReforgeSaver, as noted in the video, is the addon I use to save reforge profiles. It is very handy as all you need to do is select the saved reforge profile when you need it, and it automatically takes care of the rest!
indiegarona 1 month ago
Ofcourse haste will be better when you are in LFR and people don't go below 80% health, It's called chart topping lolololololololololololololol crit gem lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
bKLegaCey 1 month ago
@bKLegaCey While this isn't the most educated response, if you listened to the narrative I state that I understand LFR was not the ultimate testing ground, and the only thing I was testing was really Divine Aegis shielding, which regardless of HPS comparison simply occurs nearly twice as much when I use a Haste>Crit>Mastery build.
indiegarona 1 month ago
Math please?
You say you want the commenter to provide proof but can I see some proof from your end?
From all accounts I have seen Haste prevails with mastery close behind.
Mastery directly increases bubble size, while haste generally equals more heals and bubbles to get effected by mastery. Crit does not scale well enough to say it is equal to 1 point of mastery or better.
Saw this on EJ with some logs and spreadsheets pretty sure its the best route on any aoe healing fight of any description.
Blackhammer9999 1 month ago
@Blackhammer9999 Hey, thanks for this input. I enjoy getting intelligent responses more than you know! I understand LFR is not ideal testing grounds, nor were two different encounters.This was just to support my feeling that more DA shields could be better than more potent PW:S's, and it certainly doesn't mean that my way is the only way. I must lastly admit I hate math and am lousy at it, so I will never venture to spreadsheet things or min/max (though I have much respect for those that can)!
indiegarona 1 month ago
heres the deal: i stacked mastery when i dinged 85 and i was doing well and this guide came out im doing much better i can do hardmode raids with ease and with mastery i got kicked alot ;p
ShaynerPvP 1 month ago
LOL 4:10 GG.
SnowieeTV 1 month ago
@SnowieeTV This is why I shouldn't LFR, I am always looking for an unsuspecting ice wave victim!
indiegarona 1 month ago
yay indies back :DDDDD more priest vids :D
iStatiicFusiion 1 month ago
i like this new tgn.. most of the old directors dont upload anymore.. people like indie just appears after several months they been away.. so mainstream this tgn has become..
tranceaction82 1 month ago
@tranceaction82 Yes I had an unfortunate hiatus but I am baaaack! =)
indiegarona 1 month ago in playlist Indie on TGN
i believe people should at least reforge to the stats you mentioned before posting "well your doing it wrong" and giving no information as why your doing it wrong and how you could fix it. great vid,i have a disc priest friend who i will be linking too :)
keep up the awesome work :D
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Duckywarrior 1 month ago
otherwise... hi indie its SadFacedMonkey from towel's stream
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damn not first :((
SocksR4URf33t 1 month ago
I'd say first but i prefered watching the video:P
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@Maphack1337 thanks <3
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