I like Dally because i do because they are better than Dasey so yeah if u Dasey fans have a problem with that then keep ur opinions to urself's because i don't need ur negativity but i also like Dizzie just as much as i like Dally because those two are the best two couple's on the show.
@xoskittlesluverxo lose the attitude, biatch. it's never been shown that it's "marti" and that person can comment whatever they want, whenever they want. and if it's mean, i'll join in, "sweetie"
@squeallymaniac I don't need u defending me because that person was trying to correct me but unlike u i didn't have a problem with that so yeah u lose the attitude, biatch.
@BlackRoseAngel524 so what it doesnt matter aleast she's doing it i bet you cant probably do it so what's the point??and you think it the tap dancing was fake but it could be real so stop being rude she's inly a kid
And there is Dasey subtext. Maybe you're ignorant to the fact but hey? It's there whether you see it or not. Plus, for two 'siblings' who hate each other so much, they sure spend a lot of time thinking, talking/complaining, or just being around each other. AND if I hated someone as much as they 'hated' each other then I wouldn't touch or revolve my life around them as much as they do. In fact, I would avoid them (even if we lived in the same house). So there's my argument.. A lot but it's there.
Wow... clearly you have never had to deal with anything close to their situation before. The MacDonald-Venturis live in a pretty small house considering their family size. It's about the same size and layout as mine and I live with only three other people, and even when I am pissed at them and don't want to talk to them for days at a time, I can't avoid running into them. And when you strongly dislike someone, its human nature to complain about them and their habits if you do not 100% hate them.
And Ashley Leggat makes that very clear in her portrayal of Casey. If they 100% hated each other they would not gradually be becoming allies, but that alliance you're seeing does not mean that they are becoming love interests. I'm sure you have some great Dasey theories, but I think what you're seeing is two people who look good together, and the attraction that leaks through their characters between ASHLEY and MICHAEL. I think the Dasey people are actually Michley people...
they're step siblings and they became step siblings well into their teens so there was no awkward familial connection.they didn't go through childhood together and do all that brother sister stuff. i would totally have the hots for derek if he were my step bro. just saying
woah, i thought it was a discussion not really an argument. basically i'm saying that if you're forced to consider someone you are attracted to (who is not genetically related) as family, it's kind of hard to overcome that attraction. i just don't think you'd think of them as a sibling. in derek and casey's situation, i didn't think they had a genuine sibling relationship. they bickered because of personality clashes and they made up because deep down they were both nice and sort of friends.
But I'm not sure what your argument is. Is it that Derek and Casey should like each other, it would be great if they did, or that's a subtext in the actual show? 'Cause I can understand where you're coming from with the first 2, Michael and Ashley have quite the chemistry both as people and on the show. But as I said, it's a family show, and the writers just wouldn't risk creating anything remotely incestuous... Have you gotten further in the 4th season?
There was this flashback episode and Derek, after meeting Casey when she thought he was Ralph, in a very Derek way "gently" reminded Ralph, who was pretending to be him, that being attracted to a potential step-sibling (and by way of that, step-sibling) was gross.
So I'm not seeing much evidence in the way of a "Dasey" subtext... Especially nothing that warrants doing some clever editing using the season 1 episode with Casey's cousin to create a "Dasey" make-out scene.
Also... I sort of always perceived the way they treat each other as not so much a sibling relationship, but one of those close friendships that could never cross into romance.
Obviously a family show like LWD wouldn't let Derek&Casey get together. The fun about the 'Dasey' fandom is that you don't need them to get together for it to be legit. It's in their glances, touches, the way they treat each other. You have the whole incest argument behind you but they're STEP and that legally constitutes as siblings but that doesn't mean it's morally wrong. What if their parents had never met? It wouldn't have been bad THEN. The law of marriage just came in between.
Okay so I can get that. The idea that step-sister&step-brother getting together should be wrong. That's pretty much incest. BUT WAIT?! If that's not okay, how come Derek made out with cousin Vicky in the first season? By your reasoning of the idea being wrong, wouldn't that have been considered incest since they're technically supposed to be cousins? It might be a step further from sibling but it's still 'incest' if that's what you want to argue on.
I thought that was pretty icky to be honest. I was wondering why Casey wasn't much more disgusted. I GUESS because cousins used to marry in the old days and cousin relationships are fore some reason more socially acceptable, they thought no one would really notice. But I see it as incest as well and found it pretty disturbing.
Well as much fun as this was, I guess I'll be the bigger person and stop here. This was all a result of being bored late Monday night anyway. Though we both have very different views, let's leave it at that and hopefully you won't take this as me having nothing left to say because I do and I'm sure you do too. Just it's better to stop then to continuously keep arguing. Right? So anyway, you put up a good and interesting fight. I actually enjoyed it hah.
The whole thing with your episode references, the reason why Derek made it so known to Ralph that attraction to a potential step-sibling was gross is because LWD was trying to get a point across that that can't happen in the SHOW. Does that mean we stop 'imagining', pointing out the obscure gestures we see outside of the show? No. Why try to down everyone because what they think? What about gays? That's supposedly and biblically 'wrong' yet there's A LOT of people who don't mind that concept.
Congratulations. You just lost my respect as a debater by comparing gay relationships to incestuous relationships. You just compared sexual preference to biological danger. I am a STRONG gay ally and I actively fight the gay battle with my peers. Want an appropriate comparison for incest? Try pedophilia. There you have it, two relationships that are biologically dangerous and therefore considered very wrong. There're also lots of other reasons but clearly those aren't an issue for you.
I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I was just clearly stating what mine were. I have NOTHING against gays though. In fact, I have a gay best friend so I wasn't trying to condescend them in any way. I was just using it as an example. And so there's plenty of examples I could've chosen from. But I was just trying to point out the fact that there's lots of things that this world thinks is wrong and yet there's always people who are gonna fight against it.
Yah I did think it was appropriate. I wasn't trying to point out that the connection between those two ideas are similar because in my mind, I would think incest is worse. I was trying to convey that there are a lot of ideas that people THINK are wrong but really aren't. I was tying in that there's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Sorry if you had misunderstood that (and that you lost respect for me consequently) but I was arguing about Dasey NOT being incest. That was my main point.
Yeah... not a recommended avenue to take with someone who is clearly opposed to incest... Your argument came out as "incest is good and similar to homosexuality" and I don't really see how it says "Dasey is not incest"... (Which legally, it is. -- And mentally for Derek and Casey based on the stories and script...)
Awwwwww
princessyuli360 8 hours ago
aww marty is so cute
kmjys97 1 week ago
That... was the shortest song ever...
NaMi8804 2 weeks ago
I miss this show soo much! :(
FarAwayDistance 2 weeks ago
I can't believe Sally is the girl in My Babysitter's a Vampire.
greenflamingo001 1 month ago
@greenflamingo001 THAT'S why she looked familiar Oh my gosh!
NaMi8804 2 weeks ago
d tap dancing was fake
marti wasnt reely doin iyt
thegirlie991 1 month ago
the song was about 36 seconds
kinghas09 1 month ago
Can someone please explain who dizzy is co if it's Derek n lizzy isn't he a little too old for her??
thesw33tchik 1 month ago
that song was like 30 seconds long lol
lioness526 1 month ago
@412markie wow how rude. i'm done with this actually, who comments after 3 months? lol *scoffs*
squeallymaniac 2 months ago
I like Dally because i do because they are better than Dasey so yeah if u Dasey fans have a problem with that then keep ur opinions to urself's because i don't need ur negativity but i also like Dizzie just as much as i like Dally because those two are the best two couple's on the show.
412markie 2 months ago
marli<3
willy1773 2 months ago
Casey thinks shes the big shit
angelmarielover 2 months ago
@angelmarielover Dont we all.(;
L0tti3L0v3 1 month ago
As much as I love D-rock perfomance I loved Marti tapdance.
Whatislove35 3 months ago
SPINNER FROM DEGRASSI (drummer)
k8egirl101 4 months ago
The Song was awesome!
january284 4 months ago
that tap dancin was sooooooooooo CUTE!!!!!!!!:)
watersphere1 5 months ago
ahaha xD i love martty dance!!!
and i love casey's voice <3
patito3070 5 months ago
WOW SPINNER IS ON THERE! just so you know spinner is the drummer and also was a drummer in Degrassi. HOLLY SHIT!
GhostHuntGirl 5 months ago
@xoskittlesluverxo lose the attitude, biatch. it's never been shown that it's "marti" and that person can comment whatever they want, whenever they want. and if it's mean, i'll join in, "sweetie"
squeallymaniac 5 months ago
@squeallymaniac I don't need u defending me because that person was trying to correct me but unlike u i didn't have a problem with that so yeah u lose the attitude, biatch.
412markie 2 months ago
the song wasnt great it suck but still lov the show
chevji5 5 months ago
3:52, Lizzie didn't like the kiss xD
Jessicatheemogirl 5 months ago
Casey, stick to singing
Sweetnsourrgrrl 6 months ago
DROCK's performance was waaaay better than Marty's because DROCK ROCKS.
412markie 6 months ago
@412markie k sweetie, learn how to spell marti before you make comments. k? kthanks.
xoskittlesluverxo 6 months ago 2
@xoskittlesluverxo Yeah sure i will.
412markie 6 months ago
Aww, I really liked Casey with Sam.
selenemaex19 6 months ago 2
when he said please I just melted ughhhh
frecklemaggie 6 months ago
i want sam and casey to get back together! shes learned from her craziness,
rhiannan911 7 months ago 4
And episode
princessyuli360 8 months ago
I love this song
princessyuli360 8 months ago
marti's performance was waay better than drock!
TheWolverineiscool 9 months ago 2
marti: finally!
oh brother!
TheWolverineiscool 9 months ago 2
Lizzie: Co'mn tell us some funny stories!!!
George: Lizzie its not fine to heckle
Lizzie: Like about your family!!!
George: That is a very specific heckling
OMG LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Alivija 11 months ago 8
I love Sam and Casey <3
Keller0KELLER0 11 months ago 5
ROLFLOL at marti's tap dancing
alexthespy44 1 year ago
ahahahahaaaa i love edwins face when he yells "ROCK AND ROLL!" after the song
kryticom53 1 year ago
the song was pretty good, but way to short there was like only one verse :(
kryticom53 1 year ago
ow wow "i dont blam u " sucks that song sucked eww
hellokitty323554972 1 year ago
@hellokitty323554972 its "and i blame you"
marinaamato 1 year ago
@marinaamato ya wat ever its the exact same thing
hellokitty323554972 1 year ago
i personally didnt think that c d rocks song was great.
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Im like baby baby baby ooooh, would be good
Aleksandraee 1 year ago
1:52 - "Funny" Sally should interrupt Edwin just as he's launching into something about Derek.
hallpriest9 1 year ago
whoa case bein pretty cocky there: "well this is a song that my step brother made but I'm singing b.c I have a better voice." sheez. dumb act.
Mythinkingbox 1 year ago
I love that song.
Morty2264 1 year ago
damn i love casey's curves
technicolorboy 1 year ago 4
martiz tap dancing is cute
redzebraz 1 year ago 5
Edwin's stage fear bought him to a really nice joke!!
and it was really funny!!!
namitaprincess 1 year ago
Edwin's stage fear bought him to a really nice joke!!
and it was really funny!!
namitaprincess 1 year ago
i love sam
11manuna 1 year ago
it wasnt really a "song" xD
but casey has a great voice and d-rcok is good w. their music :)
Say1Brina01 1 year ago 3
marti is so adorable.
BonishkaFromTexas 1 year ago 3
i hate the i dont blame you bit its so out of tune
bellahowly 1 year ago 4
if derek and casey didn't get together i thought that Sally and Derek should've gotten back together
dumburd 1 year ago
@22horsenut George's reaction was SO funny!
WWESUPERSTAR1987 1 year ago
dereks song was horriblee lol
ilovehames 1 year ago 2
NIce C-D
HadesKHG 1 year ago
the parents are so embarrasing at : 3:20
BabyGirlsz16 1 year ago
so trueee!!!:)
BabyGirlsz16 1 year ago
awww C D-rock haha
CoraDelMar2021 1 year ago
"but im singing it because i have a better voice." wow. so modest!!! NOT!! lol. =P
nikkie102938 1 year ago 18
:D <3 Dasey moments are HALARIOUS !!!!!!!!! :D
partypopprincess12 1 year ago
lol casey danses sooooooooo bad lolololol
marinette123123123 1 year ago
they added sound effects in martis tap dance so it would sound like she tapped more lol
coolgirl9583 1 year ago
edwin's face when derek and sally kiss is soo funny! hahaha
SuperMsy 1 year ago 7
OMG LMFAO at 5:13 so funny!
emovitaminwater 2 years ago 4
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emovitaminwater 2 years ago
CD-Rock? more like Dasey-Rock amirite? =D lol
liovarjo 2 years ago 6
@liovarjo Yes definately, as Casey and Derek perform a song about Derek's feelings towards Sally.
Get over it.
mx0670 2 years ago 6
THE TAP DANCING IS FAKE
ItsMsVee 2 years ago
CASEY CAN SING!? WOAH!!! SHE GOOD!!!!
LilMyPhung 2 years ago 11
I love the way the other band members magically knew the song!!
I like Derek and Sally but am a massive Dasey fan!!! :)
Alispx 2 years ago 126
@Alispx I love how something with the word Dasey in it became the top comment
NaMi8804 2 weeks ago
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i agree with frenchieandproud ...edwins face..omgg
anbergosamreen 2 years ago
lmao "that's very specific heckling"
xjameynx 2 years ago 13
you did not see Daniel Magder in a mall!
FootballManiac1234 2 years ago
i tink the tap dancing was fake
BlackRoseAngel524 2 years ago 38
@BlackRoseAngel524 so what it doesnt matter aleast she's doing it i bet you cant probably do it so what's the point??and you think it the tap dancing was fake but it could be real so stop being rude she's inly a kid
themymy9090 5 months ago
marty is cutteee
NabjeNaveloos 2 years ago 13
Marti luked so cute outthere wen she was dancing!!!
jollygirl100 2 years ago 13
man sally's georgous
555Pheonix 2 years ago 12
lol i saw edwin at mcdonalds at the mall
he looks pretty different in real life
shivaelectric 2 years ago 2
relli which mall?
cutiegallxoxo 2 years ago
promenade mall :)
he goes to high school nearby there
shivaelectric 2 years ago
wow that was like the shortest song ever but i still liked it
missupergirl123 2 years ago
I love life with derek!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shilla95 2 years ago 2
Wow.....i love life with Derek!!!! Its so funny! But marti doesn't know tap dancing...and Drock's song is horrible!
Shilla95 2 years ago
edwin's face when derick and sally kissed on stage!
frenchieandproud 2 years ago 2
marty was really cute lol she proberly wasn't really tap dances but it looekd like she was=0)
Lauren12458 2 years ago 3
i dont think soo
SophiaStaropoli 2 years ago
aww i love this part.
espeacially when derek got stage fright and said "please" really quietly and sounded so vulnerable.
I am pro-dasey, because it isnt incest, and they didnt grow up together
TheLuckilyCharmed 2 years ago 5
that was a terrible song
danielle73196 2 years ago
it's a gr8 song but i wish it were longer
SuperMsy 2 years ago 3
martys tap dance is soooooooooooooooooooo fake
TaNiArOx12 2 years ago
i know! she wasnt even wearing tap dancing shoes
POTENTIALDREAMS 2 years ago
And there is Dasey subtext. Maybe you're ignorant to the fact but hey? It's there whether you see it or not. Plus, for two 'siblings' who hate each other so much, they sure spend a lot of time thinking, talking/complaining, or just being around each other. AND if I hated someone as much as they 'hated' each other then I wouldn't touch or revolve my life around them as much as they do. In fact, I would avoid them (even if we lived in the same house). So there's my argument.. A lot but it's there.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
Wow... clearly you have never had to deal with anything close to their situation before. The MacDonald-Venturis live in a pretty small house considering their family size. It's about the same size and layout as mine and I live with only three other people, and even when I am pissed at them and don't want to talk to them for days at a time, I can't avoid running into them. And when you strongly dislike someone, its human nature to complain about them and their habits if you do not 100% hate them.
phililili23 2 years ago
And Ashley Leggat makes that very clear in her portrayal of Casey. If they 100% hated each other they would not gradually be becoming allies, but that alliance you're seeing does not mean that they are becoming love interests. I'm sure you have some great Dasey theories, but I think what you're seeing is two people who look good together, and the attraction that leaks through their characters between ASHLEY and MICHAEL. I think the Dasey people are actually Michley people...
phililili23 2 years ago
They laugh too hard for things that arn't funny...
badfeg23 2 years ago 3
can i dowload this?
ronrongoingwrong 2 years ago
ok Sam looks so HOT in this episode
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CD-Rock's song really could have been better...
& Casey was acting far too madonna for what the gig was. Srsly.
The8thHost 2 years ago
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im not a big fan of tht song....... and casey got annoying rubbing up against sam and derek
frogluver2 2 years ago
marti is adoreble
Punky14597 2 years ago 67
i thought derek had a no personal displays of affection rule
iLuVjEsSeMaCaRtNeY 2 years ago 8
its a no "public" displays of affection rule. Kinda stupid i think LOL
tmazhindu 2 years ago 5
if you remember in the episode dating game i believe casey stated that it was a joke to test his girlfriend
chenallen8 2 years ago
i think that too ;)
mrsrobertthomaspattz 2 years ago
"Our next preformer is a Venturi that I actually like!" Bahaa ;)
TwilightSnape 2 years ago 7
I liked that song that casey sang.
But Dereks haircut looks nothing like him. O_o
runescapevids2008 3 years ago 5
Dasey forever
Gopithan22 3 years ago 9
hellz yeah :)
SmexyyLovee 2 years ago
go smarti smereck and smasey or marti dereck and casey
gagelyssa4ever 3 years ago 4
go smarty
Gopithan22 3 years ago 4
lol CD - ROCK
bBypenguin101 3 years ago 2
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casey really cant sing. the song is soooooo gay.
ericalove211 3 years ago
can YOU really sing? dont talk.
alwaysNforeverNickJ 2 years ago 3
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I don't see how anyone could tolerate Derek's obnoxious, arrogant personality (no offense to him). What a fucking dork.
AfricanPrince 3 years ago
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shutup you fucking african shithead
Annihilatorr 3 years ago
wtf, you're racist.
b0rders 3 years ago
its a show, its called ACTING god, calm yourself.
alwaysNforeverNickJ 2 years ago 2
i actually liked casey and derks performance for one :P
luluroxs34 3 years ago 4
4:30-4:39
flannzie 3 years ago
4:17 to 4:20 u cant make tapping noises like that. it was cute, but come on. i think that was her, and they didnt bother 2 get a stunt double.
queenkat0606 3 years ago 2
they shouldn't have taped marti's feet while the tapping effects were playing, it ruined the ILLUSION.
marsthecat11 3 years ago 2
CD-Rocks rocks! But i feel that CD seems like they are advertising for compact disks. Wired feeling to me. But go CD-Rocks AND D-Rocks!
OHBOYZROX 3 years ago
this is a very cute episode.
poopy14300 3 years ago 2
:) Marti is simply the cutest little thing ever! <3.
kellyelizabeth9263 3 years ago
dANG THEY COULDNT HAVE PICKED A WORSE STUNT DOUBLE.
Rockenbabe600 3 years ago
I'm A Fan of Edwin
InuYasha6660 3 years ago
The Marti taps were so obviously fake, but still cute. :]
TheCreekBiatch08 3 years ago 2
I love marty she is so cute.....Loved the song derek made for Sandy and Casey sang for Derek.Lol
cybilferns10 3 years ago
sally her naqme is sally
goanbeachluva 3 years ago
C-D Rock, I like it. "I'm singing it cuz I hav a way better voice." And isn't Marti just the CUTEST?!
VenusCrescentBeam 3 years ago 4
And I never knew it was a Disney Channel Original, but GO FAMILY AND DISNEY!
VenusCrescentBeam 3 years ago 3
she is adorable!!!
soccerballfreeak3 3 years ago
This episode Rocks
Soccertvman 3 years ago 4
4:58 whos poetry girl? (Max Vendrig)
Sandman395 3 years ago
CD- Rock
lol
hbbell91394 3 years ago
i luv marty
iLuVjEsSeMaCaRtNeY 3 years ago 3
"But I'm singing it because I have a way better voice!"
KegBean 3 years ago 7
omg!!!!!!
th last onne i soo fke
jmpng 3 years ago
such a short song, but good
x16cherries16x 3 years ago 2
0:40 = hot chick
AznSoldierXVCT007 3 years ago
a bunch try all the episodes
disneyforev 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading a bunch of Life With Derek episodes! I love this show!
MeetEmmiexoxo 3 years ago 2
this song is so lame!!!
callitasicit 3 years ago
worrrd, the other d-rock song was awful too
"you said it was over, but it was not over" yikess
supacoolken 3 years ago
If you notice when Derek and Sally kiss (=p) Casey looks away and when they are done she looks back.
Obivously them kissing is killing her inside.
Go Dasey!!!!!!
LOLAandMAYA 3 years ago 21
...That's kind of ick.
Maybe it's killing ASHLEY.
phililili23 3 years ago 2
or maybe it just reminds her of her and max !
nafu247 3 years ago
That's not icky, they're not genetically related
it would be awesome
DASEY FTW!
supacoolken 3 years ago 2
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Um... you're saying that after essentially becoming someone's sister, you would date them? That's kind of really ick.
phililili23 3 years ago
they're step siblings and they became step siblings well into their teens so there was no awkward familial connection.they didn't go through childhood together and do all that brother sister stuff. i would totally have the hots for derek if he were my step bro. just saying
supacoolken 3 years ago 5
They don't do brother-sister type stuff? Do you not WATCH the show? lol.
That's a bizarre thing to admit on YouTube... "I would have the hots for someone who was legally and starting to legitimately become my brother."
They ACT LIKE BROTHER AND SISTER.
I can't believe I am arguing about a TV situation that hasn't happened and obviously, since it's a FAMILY SHOW, isn't going to happen.
phililili23 3 years ago
woah, i thought it was a discussion not really an argument. basically i'm saying that if you're forced to consider someone you are attracted to (who is not genetically related) as family, it's kind of hard to overcome that attraction. i just don't think you'd think of them as a sibling. in derek and casey's situation, i didn't think they had a genuine sibling relationship. they bickered because of personality clashes and they made up because deep down they were both nice and sort of friends.
supacoolken 3 years ago
I sort of understand what you mean...
But I'm not sure what your argument is. Is it that Derek and Casey should like each other, it would be great if they did, or that's a subtext in the actual show? 'Cause I can understand where you're coming from with the first 2, Michael and Ashley have quite the chemistry both as people and on the show. But as I said, it's a family show, and the writers just wouldn't risk creating anything remotely incestuous... Have you gotten further in the 4th season?
phililili23 3 years ago
There was this flashback episode and Derek, after meeting Casey when she thought he was Ralph, in a very Derek way "gently" reminded Ralph, who was pretending to be him, that being attracted to a potential step-sibling (and by way of that, step-sibling) was gross.
So I'm not seeing much evidence in the way of a "Dasey" subtext... Especially nothing that warrants doing some clever editing using the season 1 episode with Casey's cousin to create a "Dasey" make-out scene.
phililili23 3 years ago
Also... I sort of always perceived the way they treat each other as not so much a sibling relationship, but one of those close friendships that could never cross into romance.
phililili23 3 years ago
Obviously a family show like LWD wouldn't let Derek&Casey get together. The fun about the 'Dasey' fandom is that you don't need them to get together for it to be legit. It's in their glances, touches, the way they treat each other. You have the whole incest argument behind you but they're STEP and that legally constitutes as siblings but that doesn't mean it's morally wrong. What if their parents had never met? It wouldn't have been bad THEN. The law of marriage just came in between.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
But they did meet. And they are siblings. The biological issues may not be there but the idea still is.
phililili23 2 years ago
Okay so I can get that. The idea that step-sister&step-brother getting together should be wrong. That's pretty much incest. BUT WAIT?! If that's not okay, how come Derek made out with cousin Vicky in the first season? By your reasoning of the idea being wrong, wouldn't that have been considered incest since they're technically supposed to be cousins? It might be a step further from sibling but it's still 'incest' if that's what you want to argue on.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
I thought that was pretty icky to be honest. I was wondering why Casey wasn't much more disgusted. I GUESS because cousins used to marry in the old days and cousin relationships are fore some reason more socially acceptable, they thought no one would really notice. But I see it as incest as well and found it pretty disturbing.
phililili23 2 years ago
Well as much fun as this was, I guess I'll be the bigger person and stop here. This was all a result of being bored late Monday night anyway. Though we both have very different views, let's leave it at that and hopefully you won't take this as me having nothing left to say because I do and I'm sure you do too. Just it's better to stop then to continuously keep arguing. Right? So anyway, you put up a good and interesting fight. I actually enjoyed it hah.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
The whole thing with your episode references, the reason why Derek made it so known to Ralph that attraction to a potential step-sibling was gross is because LWD was trying to get a point across that that can't happen in the SHOW. Does that mean we stop 'imagining', pointing out the obscure gestures we see outside of the show? No. Why try to down everyone because what they think? What about gays? That's supposedly and biblically 'wrong' yet there's A LOT of people who don't mind that concept.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
Congratulations. You just lost my respect as a debater by comparing gay relationships to incestuous relationships. You just compared sexual preference to biological danger. I am a STRONG gay ally and I actively fight the gay battle with my peers. Want an appropriate comparison for incest? Try pedophilia. There you have it, two relationships that are biologically dangerous and therefore considered very wrong. There're also lots of other reasons but clearly those aren't an issue for you.
phililili23 2 years ago
I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I was just clearly stating what mine were. I have NOTHING against gays though. In fact, I have a gay best friend so I wasn't trying to condescend them in any way. I was just using it as an example. And so there's plenty of examples I could've chosen from. But I was just trying to point out the fact that there's lots of things that this world thinks is wrong and yet there's always people who are gonna fight against it.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
And somehow you thought that comparing homosexuality to incest was appropriate?!
phililili23 2 years ago
Yah I did think it was appropriate. I wasn't trying to point out that the connection between those two ideas are similar because in my mind, I would think incest is worse. I was trying to convey that there are a lot of ideas that people THINK are wrong but really aren't. I was tying in that there's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Sorry if you had misunderstood that (and that you lost respect for me consequently) but I was arguing about Dasey NOT being incest. That was my main point.
hushhushyou 2 years ago
Yeah... not a recommended avenue to take with someone who is clearly opposed to incest... Your argument came out as "incest is good and similar to homosexuality" and I don't really see how it says "Dasey is not incest"... (Which legally, it is. -- And mentally for Derek and Casey based on the stories and script...)
phililili23 2 years ago
i love the song that they performed. very cute!
txtexasgurl 3 years ago 3
The "raisin story" is SO gross!
That isn't funny, just gross!
carlyhennessey 3 years ago
marti got older
x16cherries16x 3 years ago 8
they all got older because they ARE older
Chipmunk194 3 years ago 11