We are here and now, not 50 or 2000 or 5000 years ago. For the good of all, we must find a just solution. Instead, the fundamentalists of both sides are in alliance and perpetuate the hatred and violence. We can reject their hatred, their violence, and hew peace from the hopes and possibilities that live in the people's hearts.
I am not sure why you think 6 decades trumps 2000 years, let’s chat again some 1940 years later, and see if you still feel this way. The Palestinian refugee is defined by UNRWA as a person: “whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict” The 2 years can’t trump 6 decades that the Jews of Israel lived there, if we use your argument.
The Jews from Europe have far less right to the land than do Palestinians who have been on the land for generations & who were driven out so that Jews could take over their lands. Because Jews were there 2000 years ago and kept a small presence over the years does not mean that Jews own the land. The Bible is not a deed for a land grab.
When European Zios decided to go for a homeland in Palestine Jews comprised less than 6% of the population - not white Ashkenazi but dark skinned Sephardics.
@yaeli1967 I have no problem with you "returning " as long as you do not deny the same right to those whose parents and grandparents were born there and who were dispossessed of their homes and lands thousands of of years after your ancestors. Their dispossession goes back to 1948 and 1967. I think that 6 decades trumps 2000 years.
As for me I long ago gave up my so-called "right of return." I would no more want to live in Israel than I would have lived in apartheid South Africa..
If you think the muslims want to live with you hippies in peace then may I suggest you invest in some nice striped Auschwitz style prison pjays for you future wardrobe. Honestly, why have a holocaust memorial museum if your just setting yourselves up for the next one. Muslims will never accept you as equals. Just look at the treatment minority groups receive in Muslim majority countries e.g Coptic christians in Egypt, Sikhs and Christians in Pakistan, Hindus in Banglades etc,
We need peace seekers, whether Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. Call me an idealist, but I strive for a perfect future with humanity. People who despite negative happenings in this world, stop pointing fingers and start acting for humanity. With your mentality we have people like Hitler who can influence others to kill.
@SpankMeNasty Listen, Israel started out in contention with the natives of the area, and that is what the Palestinians are - they are the natives. The VAST MAJORITY of the Jewish people in Israel are very recent immigrants, they are colonists.
Partition, which is a fancy word for SEGREGATION was demanded by the colonists, not the indigenous Jews, and that's how the conflict began.
The entire Middle East WAS a safe haven for Jews during the Inquisition and WWII. Jewish bigots just ended that.
@fuzzywzhe The natives of this area are the peoples of the12 tribes of Israel (Hebrews) who were there nearly 1000 years (before the Romans renamed the area Syria-Palestina). They maintained a near continual presence (except for the Assyrian and Babylonian exile) in this area up to the founding of the modern state of Israel. All Jews are traditionaly descendents of the Tribe of Judah and thus qualifies them as natives.
@SpankMeNasty "The natives of this area are the peoples of the12 tribes of Israel "
No the they aren't. The Jews you are talking about are white skinned Europeans and Russians. They aren't natives.
At the VERY BEST, they have a tenuous connection to the area. Some of them MIGHT have a few ancestors from 80 GENERATIONS ago that lived there, when the EXTINCT Roman empire kicked them out but it's hardly an over-riding characteristic, which is why they look mostly Europeans, and not Arabs.
Awesome it's great to know that there are great people in Israel fighting for peace.
chestyfalla 2 months ago
We are here and now, not 50 or 2000 or 5000 years ago. For the good of all, we must find a just solution. Instead, the fundamentalists of both sides are in alliance and perpetuate the hatred and violence. We can reject their hatred, their violence, and hew peace from the hopes and possibilities that live in the people's hearts.
billbb46 5 months ago
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THERE IS occupation?? no,
BECAUSE NEVER WAS ,STATE PALESTINE ,.
FREE FREE ISRAEL.
FREE FREE ISRAEL
in 1922 by THE British mandate, the Palestinians got 77% from the land , the state name is JORDAN.
in 1948 war most Palestinians came from Jordan, to the west bank ,and they invaded to holy land ,they took,the Jews homes, and killed them.
Palestinians ,MUST go back to homes ,GAZA JORDAN. BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER get state on Israel land.
yours family wait you there.
ISEL333 6 months ago
I am not sure why you think 6 decades trumps 2000 years, let’s chat again some 1940 years later, and see if you still feel this way. The Palestinian refugee is defined by UNRWA as a person: “whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict” The 2 years can’t trump 6 decades that the Jews of Israel lived there, if we use your argument.
yaeli1967 8 months ago
Isn't Telling the truth anti-semitic according the Israeli perception?
TheMakeChange 10 months ago
what about the dishwasher in the restaurant u just ate in? him his latin-american wife, no greencard whats up with THAT???
GetzelCatfish 1 year ago
The Jews from Europe have far less right to the land than do Palestinians who have been on the land for generations & who were driven out so that Jews could take over their lands. Because Jews were there 2000 years ago and kept a small presence over the years does not mean that Jews own the land. The Bible is not a deed for a land grab.
When European Zios decided to go for a homeland in Palestine Jews comprised less than 6% of the population - not white Ashkenazi but dark skinned Sephardics.
Janba32 1 year ago
@Janba32 Wow, you are such a racist. So if I have whiter skin I have no right to return to the land of my ancestors?
yaeli1967 8 months ago
@yaeli1967 I have no problem with you "returning " as long as you do not deny the same right to those whose parents and grandparents were born there and who were dispossessed of their homes and lands thousands of of years after your ancestors. Their dispossession goes back to 1948 and 1967. I think that 6 decades trumps 2000 years.
As for me I long ago gave up my so-called "right of return." I would no more want to live in Israel than I would have lived in apartheid South Africa..
Janba32 8 months ago
If you think the muslims want to live with you hippies in peace then may I suggest you invest in some nice striped Auschwitz style prison pjays for you future wardrobe. Honestly, why have a holocaust memorial museum if your just setting yourselves up for the next one. Muslims will never accept you as equals. Just look at the treatment minority groups receive in Muslim majority countries e.g Coptic christians in Egypt, Sikhs and Christians in Pakistan, Hindus in Banglades etc,
SpankMeNasty 1 year ago
@SpankMeNasty
We don't need people like you on this planet.
We need peace seekers, whether Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. Call me an idealist, but I strive for a perfect future with humanity. People who despite negative happenings in this world, stop pointing fingers and start acting for humanity. With your mentality we have people like Hitler who can influence others to kill.
lieberat 1 year ago
@SpankMeNasty Listen, Israel started out in contention with the natives of the area, and that is what the Palestinians are - they are the natives. The VAST MAJORITY of the Jewish people in Israel are very recent immigrants, they are colonists.
Partition, which is a fancy word for SEGREGATION was demanded by the colonists, not the indigenous Jews, and that's how the conflict began.
The entire Middle East WAS a safe haven for Jews during the Inquisition and WWII. Jewish bigots just ended that.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe The natives of this area are the peoples of the12 tribes of Israel (Hebrews) who were there nearly 1000 years (before the Romans renamed the area Syria-Palestina). They maintained a near continual presence (except for the Assyrian and Babylonian exile) in this area up to the founding of the modern state of Israel. All Jews are traditionaly descendents of the Tribe of Judah and thus qualifies them as natives.
SpankMeNasty 1 year ago 2
@SpankMeNasty "The natives of this area are the peoples of the12 tribes of Israel "
No the they aren't. The Jews you are talking about are white skinned Europeans and Russians. They aren't natives.
At the VERY BEST, they have a tenuous connection to the area. Some of them MIGHT have a few ancestors from 80 GENERATIONS ago that lived there, when the EXTINCT Roman empire kicked them out but it's hardly an over-riding characteristic, which is why they look mostly Europeans, and not Arabs.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago