That goes the same with Ryougi. Ryougi's skills are a bit more traditional and refined, where as Nanaya's skills are lucid and have more flow.
Though I think Ryougi is slightly better. I mean honestly both Shiki's have superhuman prowess and stamina, not to mention an affinity to kill things. It'll only come down to skills and considering that Ryougi has trained in bladesmanship most of her life. I think she wins :P
I disagree, though this is probably an obsolete statement by now. Tohno fights on pure instinct and although that's all well and good, keep in mind that if it's nanaya blood w/MEoDP, against Shiki 3rd personality w/MEoDP, Nanaya is gonna get slaughtered.
We're essentially looking at a superhuman, vs a woman who can cut time and space @w@
Ok....so it sums up as this,Ryougi's abilities are much more stable than Tohno/Nanaya.But for physical abilities I think Nanaya/Tohno is far better than Ryougi even though both of their families are killers.Your opinions?
I don't know if "True" really makes sense though. It is true though that Ryogi and Tohno's eyes work differently. Ryogi doesn't see dots, so in a way, she is fundamentally less deadly, her lack of weaknesses with MEoDP aside.
There's also Nasu's spiel about how Ryogi destroys the origin (or "sees" the past) whereas Tohno sees the future (kills the present existence, I guess, or causes a sort of time paradox)
It's more along the lines of the concept of the eyes themselves.
Tohno's eyes are basically an extension of the Nanaya Pure Eyes which was basically triggered by his death.
Ryougi on the other hand had the eyes to begin with. They were dormant, until her first death.
It's neither the past or the present that is seen with the eyes, and both origins and death are the same in the context of type-MOON. It's the same way how nothingness and everything are the same things
The reason why Ryougi's eyes are true MEoDP is going along the lines of what she sees. Seeing origins is essentially perceiving the very origin of the soul which in all intent and purposes is Void itself.
Since all things are connected to the spiral of origins, what she's seeing is the connection to the spiral. There lies the underlying point why it's true Mystic Eyes.
Tohno can bring death to anything in the world, by imposing the concept of death.
Ryougi,,, can destroy the universe by destroying the origins of every living creature.
What's scary is that it's canon. In the epilogue of KnK, her 3rd "Akasha personality" states that in a blink of an eye she can end the world and remake it, by annihilating it and imposing a new reality :3
But I don't think he ever gives in fully to his Nanaya impulse. Otherwise, he'd kill a lot of people that he had been helping kill the stagnation since so many of them aren't human.
I thought he only accepted his true identity somewhat and that grants him the capability to perform 17 Dissection.
Ryougi can't see dots, only lines, but her perception is quite a lot more developed than Tohno/Nanaya's.
Ryougi's eyes can see the origin of things, allowing her to, say, theoretically kill Merem Solomon by stabbing his projection, which even Satsujinki couldn't do in Talk.
Plus, her body was the perfect host to receive the magan (thus the lack of headaches), so it's likely that she can become quite a lot more skilled than even Satsujinki, with his berserk eyes.
That goes the same with Ryougi. Ryougi's skills are a bit more traditional and refined, where as Nanaya's skills are lucid and have more flow.
Though I think Ryougi is slightly better. I mean honestly both Shiki's have superhuman prowess and stamina, not to mention an affinity to kill things. It'll only come down to skills and considering that Ryougi has trained in bladesmanship most of her life. I think she wins :P
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Hmm...
I disagree, though this is probably an obsolete statement by now. Tohno fights on pure instinct and although that's all well and good, keep in mind that if it's nanaya blood w/MEoDP, against Shiki 3rd personality w/MEoDP, Nanaya is gonna get slaughtered.
We're essentially looking at a superhuman, vs a woman who can cut time and space @w@
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Ok....so it sums up as this,Ryougi's abilities are much more stable than Tohno/Nanaya.But for physical abilities I think Nanaya/Tohno is far better than Ryougi even though both of their families are killers.Your opinions?
Lavist 3 years ago
I don't know if "True" really makes sense though. It is true though that Ryogi and Tohno's eyes work differently. Ryogi doesn't see dots, so in a way, she is fundamentally less deadly, her lack of weaknesses with MEoDP aside.
There's also Nasu's spiel about how Ryogi destroys the origin (or "sees" the past) whereas Tohno sees the future (kills the present existence, I guess, or causes a sort of time paradox)
thoughtLayer7 3 years ago
It's more along the lines of the concept of the eyes themselves.
Tohno's eyes are basically an extension of the Nanaya Pure Eyes which was basically triggered by his death.
Ryougi on the other hand had the eyes to begin with. They were dormant, until her first death.
It's neither the past or the present that is seen with the eyes, and both origins and death are the same in the context of type-MOON. It's the same way how nothingness and everything are the same things
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
The reason why Ryougi's eyes are true MEoDP is going along the lines of what she sees. Seeing origins is essentially perceiving the very origin of the soul which in all intent and purposes is Void itself.
Since all things are connected to the spiral of origins, what she's seeing is the connection to the spiral. There lies the underlying point why it's true Mystic Eyes.
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Here's all you need to know.
Tohno can bring death to anything in the world, by imposing the concept of death.
Ryougi,,, can destroy the universe by destroying the origins of every living creature.
What's scary is that it's canon. In the epilogue of KnK, her 3rd "Akasha personality" states that in a blink of an eye she can end the world and remake it, by annihilating it and imposing a new reality :3
Shinokyouku 2 years ago 2
But I don't think he ever gives in fully to his Nanaya impulse. Otherwise, he'd kill a lot of people that he had been helping kill the stagnation since so many of them aren't human.
I thought he only accepted his true identity somewhat and that grants him the capability to perform 17 Dissection.
thoughtLayer7 3 years ago
whats the BMG called during the attack i wanna know its great
lol shiki tohno is just running but in the end Shiki Ryogi still arrived at the same time but there attack is awesome
monkeyphang 3 years ago
I find it kind of strange that Shiki Ryogi kind of makes Shiki Tohno look like a joke in terms of speed. >_>
thoughtLayer7 3 years ago
During this special attack at least.
thoughtLayer7 3 years ago
Can you say 'PWN'D!!!'?
chaosgreyblood 4 years ago
Oh yeah,they should really put a Tohno + Nanaya Shiki combo, or a triple Shiki combo , that would really rock!
Lavist 4 years ago
I've always wondered,between Ryogi Shiki and Tohno/Nanaya Shiki,whose eyes are much more powerful?
Lavist 4 years ago
Ryougi can't see dots, only lines, but her perception is quite a lot more developed than Tohno/Nanaya's.
Ryougi's eyes can see the origin of things, allowing her to, say, theoretically kill Merem Solomon by stabbing his projection, which even Satsujinki couldn't do in Talk.
Plus, her body was the perfect host to receive the magan (thus the lack of headaches), so it's likely that she can become quite a lot more skilled than even Satsujinki, with his berserk eyes.
In short, Ryougi fucking rocks
DarkshineOfBTN 4 years ago
Wow,where you got all that info from?
Lavist 4 years ago
The Shikis are amazing!
SubaruSama 4 years ago
the two shiki's are just AWESOME
cerxpas 4 years ago
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pause it at :20,that chick has a nice butt,lol.
Gaidengear 4 years ago