some people on here are so stupid making fun of them,fucking idiots. this shit is coming over here, plus canada and usa has there own reactors too.!!!
@FreonRose Areas in or near earthquake zones are geothermal hot spots. How about they use some out of the box thinking and turn a negative into a positive by using some polution free geothermal energy. No that cant be done as every nation has to be externally dependant for their energy needs so the new world order can control and keep their economies and people enslaved.
@FreonRose You have no idea. There are numerous thermal springs where boiling hot ground water /steam rushes to the surface in the Fukushima area. There are many other similar sites all throughout Japan.
@ChrisPCrunchy oh i do. japan is an island after all and theres only one way to make a long lasting island. btw building geothermal power plants in an unstable area on top of an unstable area... also not a very good idea. tends to be lot of trouble lurking just below those hotspots making them ..well... hot. on the plus side if something goes wrong the japanese will have a little more breathing room instead of a nuclear issue. been fun though man. ima give others room to speak lol
Some justice has to come out of this nightmare. No more nuclear energy. I would rather pedal on a bike to generate electricity than get cancer from eating fish.
@AdamElseify Don't buy into this rhetoric.Nuclear is very clean and efficient. The waste coming out of this plant is not from spent fuel rods. No. The waste from Fukushima has a very small half life and is not dangerous. The waste from nearby oil plants was MUCH worse. Ask yourself why they don't cover that story!! Really ask yourself. Now think... this (very old) nuclear plant survived a NINE.ZERO earthquake!! If anything it is an advertisement FOR nuclear energy. Don't be a sheep
@Pigroota You are the ignorance of the Main Stream Media. Or did you make that shit up yourself? Or read it on Facebook? "Clean and efficient"--- yah, unless it explodes. The "waste" from the plant---LOL, has "very small half life"--ROFLMAO You mean "short" half life? As in 24,000 years for Plutonium? Yah, just down the milleniums and around the corner from here. You are a waste of mind space. Bah, Bah, Bah. Each aftershock further damages already rumbled, Tsunamied, exploded, radioactive mess.
@intrptr Go and look up the facts. The main waste at a nuclear site is depleted uranium. This is dangerous stuff but is not the concern at Fukushima. The stuff being put into the water from coolant at Fukushima is caesium which has a half life of 30 years. That's just a little bit less than the 24,000 you mention above. Coal pollutes more than nuclear. Also, depleted uranium is now 98% recyclabe. The truth hurts huh, but sure, go and keep polluting my planet with coal if you want
@Pigroota Plutonium has half life of 24,000 years. Forget right now if PU (238) or (239). You go look it up. And I am glad we both agree how terrible Nuclear power and coal power are. Both of which we are using right now to type to each other, BTW. BBTW, solar and wind might be a better choice. Or ride a bike. Or... walk.
@intrptr Solar and wind are bad alternatives. They are too inefficient. Also, they are extremely expensive and deplete the energy around it, causing it too cool down. This is only good for hot areas, where you want it to become cooler. Also, they are a source of power only during times of sun or wind, which is random. It is just not a good replacement.
@shinobirevolution Solar and wind are R_E_N_E_W_A_B_L_E. There's always the sun, the wind, ocean waves and geothermal. Then there's bio-fuels from corn and soy and good ol' elbow grease. Too expensive? I wonder what the price of a kilowatt hour is in Japan these days? (hint: It's going up). Random wind and sun, huh? For billions of years planet has done just fine by them. Now we get greedy and will destroy our wonderful technological civilization long before the sun stops shining. Random, lol =)
@intrptr They are Not renewable, as they will stop the moment the sun stops. Also, the demand for el-power are different from before, as we need a enormous constant supply of power. Wind and sun power simply cant offer that, as there is no place in the world that got constant sun and wind all year around.
And about your previous comment, how can you actually comment here if you do not own a PC, phone or any tech device? Either you are trying to troll, or you are simply stupid.
@shinobirevolution Like I said, we are just now reaping the whirlwind of toxins dumped into the environment from our greedy need to have enormous demand for "power". There is a limit to how much of that the human body and the environment can absorb before we are slowly poisoned by all the pollution from all sources. I speak out via the web about that to all who promote more and more technology to solve the growing problem FROM that very same technology. I can't change all, only my own use.
@intrptr I don't agree with you at all. Nuclear is the best form of energy we have. And what has walking got to do with electricity consumption?? I am talking with a fucking retard. Bye
After Fukushima disaster i have stopped eat fish. I don't trust the governments and i don't trust multinationals. Fucking bastards we are in a sea of shit and they minimize.
They'll do anything to preserve there lil' miss perfect image to the rest of the world while sweeping all their problems under the rug. These things deserve no sympathy. They would have done the world a favor if the did not betrayed their own creed and all faught to the death instead of surrendering sixty years ago. Fukken cesium laced nips.
@RalghaNarHhallasClan When you say "they" do you mean Japanese? Because if you do, then I think you're bringing race into something that is about profit over safety and public knowledge.
@RalghaNarHhallasClan Nice opinion. But I have some questions. If these "things" are indeed only things, then what does that make you? My English must be lacking because I cannot find a word for something of a lower value than "things". Would it be a shitty thing? A broken thing? I simply cant describe you. Also, please learn proper English spelling and grammar please. That way you can at least cover your lacking intelligence.
@shinobirevolution Forgive my lack of knowledge in taxonomy. But I cannot predict what they will mutate into in the coming years. So I figured that "thing" would be the most appropriate term to describe them.
Why the fuck would you build a potential global contaminating reactor on a god damn island near the fucking water?! huh? wtf you fucking idiot. Its like saying an astreroid will never hit earth again....... fucking asians dude... no common sense.
@Gibbzifying Dear son of retard, also to wash away any "leaks", or use seawater (gulp... the worst) to hose down the plants in a vain attempt to cool the cores after failure of containment. (which also "washes away" any "residue" or "residual evidence".) Convenient,huh?
somebody responded to me.I forgot who. Iodine-131 has 8 day half life..but it takes a full 85 days to totally decay. During that time you are getting hit with x-rays, gamma rays, possibly alpha and beta. Iodine-131 decays into barium, a naturally occurring element found deep in the earth that is know to cancer by itself. Barium in the body isnt good folks.
If they divide all the electricity produced by these 6 molten down plants into the cost of the plant+fuel+electricty previously billed+damage so far+damage for next 100 years+insurance+contamination now and in the next 100 years+ cost of labor so far and 100 years out, they will get the true cost per kilowatt for 130 years. Was it worth it?
EVERY COUNTRY IS GUILTY!! EVERY country allowing nuclear plants to be built, saying it's "clean energy" EVERY SINGLE ONE IS GUILTY FOR THIS. Not, not, NOT only FUKUSHIMA
guys, we shouldn't be so hateful of fukushima, i'm tellin ya we need robots to man these stations, that way if another tsunami happens, high tech robots can take over immediately, and they don't get hurt by the radiation, so they can b on ground zero!
@link199z In extreme radiation even robots break down. Go see the documentary "The True Battle of Chernobyl" (the part about robots starts at 53.00). Please post a new solution...
@intrptr What about Asimo? honda Asimo humanoid robot can climb stairs. In the next decades we will have robots developed like TC-14 in Star Wars, they can b at work at those dangerous nuclear plants, technology will adapt and solve our problems, go technology!
@link199z Go Technology? Technology got us into this mess. Every time we upgrade technology to solve our "problems" we create even more problems. Now we done it. Modern "technology" is only a 100 years old or so. Thousands of years we live without it. now we can't live without it. Oil in the gulf. Radioactivity in our water and food. Instruments of war. All the pollution form these and the industry that brought it. We're choking on our "technology".
@intrptr Then I demand you to throw away your PC, Phone, car, watch, tv; to never use buses, trains or planes; to never eat or drink anything you can buy from a shop. Start living in a cave, and then you can complain. Technology is bad right? Also, it was not the quake that caused this situation, it was the tsunami.
@shinobirevolution BTW, I don't own a car or a PC, or a phone or a watch, and I haven't rode a bus a train or a plane for decades. I don't burn coal either like oink oink says I do on here. I barter repairs for room and board and grow my own food. TV sucks. Tech isn't bad... its out of control. Oil and nuclear power and wars for instance. Oh and chemical fertilizers,genetic engineering, deforestation, uh what else? World is choking on "fallout" from wonderful technology.
@mukadaymaengun yeah things that grow from the ground cant get radiation from the contaminated water in the sea. lol all food will be unsafe even VEGGIES
Obviously not good news but one thing I don't get is for decades since the first atomic bomb was detonated, primarily the US and UK have conducted hundreds if not thousands of nuclear tests (hydrogen, uranium, plutonuim and whatever else) above ground, underground, in the oceans, and even in space. Those instances were deliberate. Why the major uproar now and hopefully not but smearing of Japan and Fukushima (not including TEPCO of course) ? I wonder what readings a nuke detonation would give.
@r655321 Little Boy Atomic Bomb dropped on Hiroshima contains 64 KG uranium, Whereas reactor 1 in FuKushima, which has just experienced a full meltdown contained 68 Tons (68 000KG) of Melted fuel or Corium. So in other words, Fukushima is like having a few thousand Hiroshima like nuclear tests in a single location. No to mention tons of the spent fuel rods that get blown off or evaporated during the explosion... Oh my....Can you now see the severity of this disaster?
@escapee78 It would not be fair to compare the two events, since the uranium used for Little boy was highly enriched and designed to have higher energy yields than a reactor. Mind you, no uranium ever got out of the reactor in Fukushima.
@r655321 Two totally different events. A weapons detonation burns the "fuel" in a moment and the fallout produced is "mostly short lived". The rest of the Ur or Pu is not burned or fissioned in the burst. That is the long live dangerous part. Each weapons, "remains" is tiny compared to the amount of fuel in ANY reactor PLUS spent fuel pools. Slow burn" that in a core or sfp and you are left with 10's of tons of many different isotopes and radionuclides in air, oceans and groundwater. Spreading..
@r655321 I'm pretty sure that there has been no nuclear device set off above our atmosphere. I think that for the most part, the fear and anger surrounding the Fukushima Daichi incident are overblown. You are right to think the way you do. The types of radiation released are completely different, and the Japanese (and us) are pretty much safe, outside of the exclusion zone ofc.
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i dont think cesium will accumulate in the food-chain.
As i understand it, Cesium doesnt accumulate in organisms, not like fat-soluble toxins or mercury or other heavy metals do. On land, cesium just sinks down into the ground over time, lets hope the same happens in the sea, and that a relatively safe top layer develops and you need to dig a bit to get to the really bad cesium-concentrations.
still, thats nothing compared to the BP oil spill.
@kurtilein3 ... didn't you listen to the vid? Cesium is being found in fish. It is accumulating and it is not sinking to the bottom of the ocean. You may be wrong. ... Not that the Gulf Oil Spill wasn't also another man-made catastrophe thanks to the latest technology brought to us by BP but doesn't oil breakdown by biological organism over time? I don't think too many living organism can do much about radiactive Cescium, Plutonium etc. and depleted Uranium (thanks to US army in Iraq)
Im just saying that some elements accumulate in the body, and some dont. If you take in strontium or calcium, it will be incorporated into your bones and stay there until you die. Mercury sticks to your liver and other organs. But phosphorus, if you take it in, will leave your body again. It doesnt stick to anything in particular. I think Cesium is like phosphorus, it doesnt stick, so the concentration at the top of the food chain shouldnt be higher than at the bottom.
@kurtilein3 By any chance, do you work for Tepco? What misinfo your comment is. Yah, it sinks to the bottom, and gets eaten by crawlers, which get eaten by bigger and bigger fish all the way up the ladder to you...
@intrptr I find it funny that whenever a person says anything contrary to the prevailing belief, everyone suddenly jumps to thinking that the persons arguing have a vested interest in the issue.
@johntheactor Either that or is just relaying some misinfo he heard on a "news" broadcast. Either way, minion of the state. What are you, his handler?
@intrptr I think you'd be hard pressed to find any news station that will have a positive view on any kind of radiation. Also, I believe there would be better ways for a company to spend its money than to have people comment on a site that isn't in their language. Remember the context here. There is a fine line between showing proper concern and fear mongering. Kurtilein has a very optimistic view, but you shouldn't just dismiss him as an agent of "the powers that be" without thinking.
@johntheactor Ok dismissed. LOL That is what the "news" is for. Bought and paid for disinfo feel good, consume, everything A-OK now go back to sleep. Just trying to wake him up and counter his "optimism", as you put it. That is what the internet is for. Opinions from all sides instead of one way TEPCO>>>NHK>>>HIM/YOU>>>HERE ][ Blocked. Without thinking... You both did hear the video about Ce IN the fish right? You can believe that. =)
@intrptr Unfortunately, the character limit makes meaningful debate impossible on technical issues like the dangers of nuclear radiation. I've a beef with the presentation of the video, but not with the numbers in it. Fortunately, I do not prescribe to trusting news facts. You read peer reviewed science journals for that. I am not uncomfortable with saying that I can and will be wrong at times, and will accept an argument if it is convincing on an empirical level.
@johntheactor Well how goody goody and too too. How about an Empirical joke? Can you read that in peer reviewed journals? Thats all it was. A joke, get it? Geez learn to laugh a little. For help on this, read other comments on here. Some are funny as hell.
My fav is, Can I get a little radioactive tartar sauce with that radioactive fish? LOL
I know how serious this is, thats why its important to laugh about it as well.
You should come on ATS.com, Youd love it. One thread on FUKU is a 1000 pages.
@intrptr While I admit that laughter is an important part of living an enjoyable human life, I fail to see what that has to do with the concern at hand. Godzilla's only inevitable after all. We take our radioactive monsters seriously here after all.
Im just saying that concentrations at the top of the food chain wont be much higher than at the bottom, because it doesnt stick to anything in particular in your body. It goes out as it goes in. Only elements that stick to something special, get incorporated into the bones, liver, bone marrow or something else, like mercury or strontium or iodine, only these accumulate in the food chain. Its biochemistry. Uranium, Plutonium or radioactive Strontium are much worse, they stick.
@kansascitycomputers It's because Cs has the most dangerous isotopes, aside from Sr (if I remember correctly). The threat from other isotopes has mostly small because they've either decayed to be a non-threat (like iodine with a 8 day half life), or are not very radioactive at all.
@kurtilein3 Wouldn't it be fair to say that Sr and P are, by far, worse than U, since U tends towards having rather low radioactivity? Since U a naturally occurring element instead of one produced by an artificial nuclear process [Sr from decay] [P from manufacture in reactors]
Conversely, U is present from when it was produced in supernovae, meaning it's got super-low radioactivity/decay= safer
i think when looking only at the radiation and natural / unused uranium, you are totally right. But there are two problems: first of all, even without the radioactivity, uranium is just toxic as hell. Just chemically incredibly toxic. And used uranium from a reactor is always mixed with heavier isotopes, and heavier elements that behave very similar in the environment, which are much more radioactive.
EuroNoobz is correct. It is silly to compare the sea concentrations between Chernobyl and Fukushima. However, assuming the report is accurate concerning the fish concentrations (15,000 Bq/kg), that is unfortunately too high for consumption (unless starvation is the alternative).
BP executives--- "hey, Japan just had an Earthquake..lets make sure they have a meltdown so we can get the media's mind off of our complete incompetence".
I dont know who those psychopaths groups are. there are some psychopath groups. but actually, they can't control people's mind. the weakness of psychopath is that they are very stupid. but they can kill any people even children.
For those that say "Oh this was not a man made catastophe"-I am no chattin' about that I'm saying they hid a lot of things that should have been told to their people for their safety!
There are extremophile bacteria that eat radioactive material. That's a way to cure the ocean of this radioactive sludge. First thing that should be done though, is all TEPCO executives and the whole of the present Japanese government should fall on swords.
And to think we got this planet for free. We have food that grows from the ground and fresh water falls from the sky. Who could want more......?O yeah....greedy homosapians want more and more more more more more........stuff. The only planet with complex organisms and we have raped it....enjoy your ball of shit future generations.
@HitomiNoRyu I think you make a very good point, Mr. Hitomi. It could be that, for a while, the only non-radioactive sealife people might find to eat would be from fish farmed inland.
Sadly, I live in Florida on the Gulf of Mexico. Many gulf fishermen committed suicide because they hated what had happened and knew it would end their lifestyle. People here are still in denial about the impact the oil disaster had on the Gulf ecology.
This is a very sad world we've made for ourselves.
@MartianStories Thank you for agreeing! Even now I've been choosing farmed fish over wild-caught. The industry still has its flaws. Farming carnivorous fishes like tuna is still difficult to archive. Same goes none-schooling fish which are not used to cramped farming conditions. Hopefully husbandry techniques will improve with time.
@HitomiNoRyu - Yeah, but, fish farms have a way to go to become safe, too. The existing ones have horrible things they feed the fish, nasty living environments...same problems that factory "farming" cows, pigs, chickens face. If only we could raise healthy animals in a healthy environment for food without cutting corners to make a buck...ironically its the same problems we have with power plants/mining/fracking-cutting corners to make a buck and fucking things up!
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HUMANS WANT TO PUSH FOR MORE MORE MORE AND DONT THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE ALL HAVE IPHONES, THE INTERNET, FACEBOOK, MTV BUT WE DONT HAVE BRAINS ANYMORE. ONLY A SELECT FEW. ITS A SHAME. MAYBE THE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL LOOK BACK AND LEARN FROM OUR IDIOTIC MONEY DRIVEN MISTAKES. IF YOU LIKE WHAT I SAY COME TO MY PAGE AND SHOW SOME SUPPORT.
I feel pretty bad for pushing the "like" button on this story, its really terrible what happened but this is some great reporting...keep up the good work
Ah well, so be it! Now let' s built MORE of THEM!!!!. Seems like many are thrilled about the idea and pushing the INSANE envellope forward as SO MANY NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS have occured in the USA alone over the PAST FEW MONTHS ! Now how much more TERROR sain and honest people must ENDURE by deluted psychopatic irresponsible CRIMINALS???!!!! You should see that GEIGER counter going WILD in AMERICA these days!...
Let alone the rest of the Globe since no data.. BIZARRE.lock up the culprits!
@playgrrrr And we have a good 50 of them along our coasts as well. An electrical power outage, EMP attack or a nuclear warhead over some of these would render the whole of the United States uninhabitable. Take a look at this intereactive map of the world and see how most of the worlds nuclear power plants are almost exclusively along the coasts or larger rivers. This problem going forward is massive. /blogs.ft.com/energy-source/2011/03/16/the-nuclear-world-interactive-map/
it would have been thousands of times worse if the reactors blew half the pacific would be radiated
TheBic4 6 days ago
some people on here are so stupid making fun of them,fucking idiots. this shit is coming over here, plus canada and usa has there own reactors too.!!!
iluvrocknrap 2 weeks ago
looks like we will still have seafood to eat in 20 years
MrSouthphillyitalian 1 month ago
This fat girl rt here is gonna die without sushi :(
mizzzjersey 1 month ago
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FreonRose 1 month ago
Its always a great idea to build Nuclear reactors in earthquake and tsunami prone areas. Karma is a bitch right?
ChrisPCrunchy 1 month ago
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FreonRose 1 month ago
@FreonRose Areas in or near earthquake zones are geothermal hot spots. How about they use some out of the box thinking and turn a negative into a positive by using some polution free geothermal energy. No that cant be done as every nation has to be externally dependant for their energy needs so the new world order can control and keep their economies and people enslaved.
ChrisPCrunchy 1 month ago
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FreonRose 1 month ago
@FreonRose You have no idea. There are numerous thermal springs where boiling hot ground water /steam rushes to the surface in the Fukushima area. There are many other similar sites all throughout Japan.
ChrisPCrunchy 1 month ago
@ChrisPCrunchy oh i do. japan is an island after all and theres only one way to make a long lasting island. btw building geothermal power plants in an unstable area on top of an unstable area... also not a very good idea. tends to be lot of trouble lurking just below those hotspots making them ..well... hot. on the plus side if something goes wrong the japanese will have a little more breathing room instead of a nuclear issue. been fun though man. ima give others room to speak lol
FreonRose 1 month ago
@ChrisPCrunchy message me though. im still interested.
FreonRose 1 month ago
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FreonRose 1 month ago
NOW Japan WILL YOU STOP WITH THE WHALE KILLING?
PerilHit 1 month ago
Some justice has to come out of this nightmare. No more nuclear energy. I would rather pedal on a bike to generate electricity than get cancer from eating fish.
AdamElseify 2 months ago
@AdamElseify Don't buy into this rhetoric.Nuclear is very clean and efficient. The waste coming out of this plant is not from spent fuel rods. No. The waste from Fukushima has a very small half life and is not dangerous. The waste from nearby oil plants was MUCH worse. Ask yourself why they don't cover that story!! Really ask yourself. Now think... this (very old) nuclear plant survived a NINE.ZERO earthquake!! If anything it is an advertisement FOR nuclear energy. Don't be a sheep
Pigroota 2 months ago
@Pigroota YOUR RIGHT.NOBODY WORRY
diagreen 1 month ago
@diagreen what is my right? My right to do what? Ohhhhhhhh... you mean "you're"! OK
Pigroota 1 month ago
@Pigroota You are the ignorance of the Main Stream Media. Or did you make that shit up yourself? Or read it on Facebook? "Clean and efficient"--- yah, unless it explodes. The "waste" from the plant---LOL, has "very small half life"--ROFLMAO You mean "short" half life? As in 24,000 years for Plutonium? Yah, just down the milleniums and around the corner from here. You are a waste of mind space. Bah, Bah, Bah. Each aftershock further damages already rumbled, Tsunamied, exploded, radioactive mess.
intrptr 1 month ago
@intrptr Go and look up the facts. The main waste at a nuclear site is depleted uranium. This is dangerous stuff but is not the concern at Fukushima. The stuff being put into the water from coolant at Fukushima is caesium which has a half life of 30 years. That's just a little bit less than the 24,000 you mention above. Coal pollutes more than nuclear. Also, depleted uranium is now 98% recyclabe. The truth hurts huh, but sure, go and keep polluting my planet with coal if you want
Pigroota 1 month ago
@Pigroota Plutonium has half life of 24,000 years. Forget right now if PU (238) or (239). You go look it up. And I am glad we both agree how terrible Nuclear power and coal power are. Both of which we are using right now to type to each other, BTW. BBTW, solar and wind might be a better choice. Or ride a bike. Or... walk.
intrptr 1 month ago
@intrptr Solar and wind are bad alternatives. They are too inefficient. Also, they are extremely expensive and deplete the energy around it, causing it too cool down. This is only good for hot areas, where you want it to become cooler. Also, they are a source of power only during times of sun or wind, which is random. It is just not a good replacement.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@shinobirevolution Solar and wind are R_E_N_E_W_A_B_L_E. There's always the sun, the wind, ocean waves and geothermal. Then there's bio-fuels from corn and soy and good ol' elbow grease. Too expensive? I wonder what the price of a kilowatt hour is in Japan these days? (hint: It's going up). Random wind and sun, huh? For billions of years planet has done just fine by them. Now we get greedy and will destroy our wonderful technological civilization long before the sun stops shining. Random, lol =)
intrptr 1 month ago
@intrptr They are Not renewable, as they will stop the moment the sun stops. Also, the demand for el-power are different from before, as we need a enormous constant supply of power. Wind and sun power simply cant offer that, as there is no place in the world that got constant sun and wind all year around.
And about your previous comment, how can you actually comment here if you do not own a PC, phone or any tech device? Either you are trying to troll, or you are simply stupid.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@shinobirevolution Like I said, we are just now reaping the whirlwind of toxins dumped into the environment from our greedy need to have enormous demand for "power". There is a limit to how much of that the human body and the environment can absorb before we are slowly poisoned by all the pollution from all sources. I speak out via the web about that to all who promote more and more technology to solve the growing problem FROM that very same technology. I can't change all, only my own use.
intrptr 1 month ago
@intrptr I don't agree with you at all. Nuclear is the best form of energy we have. And what has walking got to do with electricity consumption?? I am talking with a fucking retard. Bye
Pigroota 1 month ago
@AdamElseify There ya go, good for you. See everyone? This is a solution. Albeit a 20/20 hindsight solution, but a powerful one at that.
intrptr 1 month ago
After Fukushima disaster i have stopped eat fish. I don't trust the governments and i don't trust multinationals. Fucking bastards we are in a sea of shit and they minimize.
ministry75 2 months ago
@ministry75 I love various types of fish and no I have to worry about eating it. :'-(
kansascitycomputers 2 months ago
They'll do anything to preserve there lil' miss perfect image to the rest of the world while sweeping all their problems under the rug. These things deserve no sympathy. They would have done the world a favor if the did not betrayed their own creed and all faught to the death instead of surrendering sixty years ago. Fukken cesium laced nips.
RalghaNarHhallasClan 2 months ago
@RalghaNarHhallasClan When you say "they" do you mean Japanese? Because if you do, then I think you're bringing race into something that is about profit over safety and public knowledge.
420lezlie420 2 months ago
@RalghaNarHhallasClan Nice opinion. But I have some questions. If these "things" are indeed only things, then what does that make you? My English must be lacking because I cannot find a word for something of a lower value than "things". Would it be a shitty thing? A broken thing? I simply cant describe you. Also, please learn proper English spelling and grammar please. That way you can at least cover your lacking intelligence.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@shinobirevolution Forgive my lack of knowledge in taxonomy. But I cannot predict what they will mutate into in the coming years. So I figured that "thing" would be the most appropriate term to describe them.
RalghaNarHhallasClan 1 month ago
Why the fuck would you build a potential global contaminating reactor on a god damn island near the fucking water?! huh? wtf you fucking idiot. Its like saying an astreroid will never hit earth again....... fucking asians dude... no common sense.
Metonium 2 months ago
@Metonium
Dear retard,
It is built next to the ocean to use the infinite supply of water for cooling thier reactors.
Gibbzifying 2 months ago
@Gibbzifying Dear son of retard, also to wash away any "leaks", or use seawater (gulp... the worst) to hose down the plants in a vain attempt to cool the cores after failure of containment. (which also "washes away" any "residue" or "residual evidence".) Convenient,huh?
intrptr 1 month ago
somebody responded to me.I forgot who. Iodine-131 has 8 day half life..but it takes a full 85 days to totally decay. During that time you are getting hit with x-rays, gamma rays, possibly alpha and beta. Iodine-131 decays into barium, a naturally occurring element found deep in the earth that is know to cancer by itself. Barium in the body isnt good folks.
kansascitycomputers 2 months ago
@kansascitycomputers Take a look at ENENEWS top of web page and the bottom
for specific.
tomuchbabble 2 months ago
do something on your title. the civilians are nothing more than the victims.
originallove911 2 months ago
I found a Japanese 2ltr coke bottle, and other Japanese consumer product containers and flotation devices on the beach this summer!
The locals tell me that this is a common occurrence!
Ucluelet, BC, Vancouver Island 2011
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i hate how most people have forgotten already. it's quite a big deal but everybody is like meh about it now.
heavytrike 2 months ago
FuckerShima
Lastscene30 2 months ago
I'm not eating sushi anymore. ><
supermonkey100 2 months ago
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If they divide all the electricity produced by these 6 molten down plants into the cost of the plant+fuel+electricty previously billed+damage so far+damage for next 100 years+insurance+contamination now and in the next 100 years+ cost of labor so far and 100 years out, they will get the true cost per kilowatt for 130 years. Was it worth it?
altgeldrarities 2 months ago
EVERY COUNTRY IS GUILTY!! EVERY country allowing nuclear plants to be built, saying it's "clean energy" EVERY SINGLE ONE IS GUILTY FOR THIS. Not, not, NOT only FUKUSHIMA
cinszjack 2 months ago
guys, we shouldn't be so hateful of fukushima, i'm tellin ya we need robots to man these stations, that way if another tsunami happens, high tech robots can take over immediately, and they don't get hurt by the radiation, so they can b on ground zero!
link199z 2 months ago
@link199z In extreme radiation even robots break down. Go see the documentary "The True Battle of Chernobyl" (the part about robots starts at 53.00). Please post a new solution...
909trauma 2 months ago
@909trauma documentary can be found at google video! video.google.com
909trauma 2 months ago
@link199z unless there's stairs involved.
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr What about Asimo? honda Asimo humanoid robot can climb stairs. In the next decades we will have robots developed like TC-14 in Star Wars, they can b at work at those dangerous nuclear plants, technology will adapt and solve our problems, go technology!
link199z 2 months ago
@link199z Go Technology? Technology got us into this mess. Every time we upgrade technology to solve our "problems" we create even more problems. Now we done it. Modern "technology" is only a 100 years old or so. Thousands of years we live without it. now we can't live without it. Oil in the gulf. Radioactivity in our water and food. Instruments of war. All the pollution form these and the industry that brought it. We're choking on our "technology".
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr No we are not. We are choking on human incompetence.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@shinobirevolution However you slice it. Mans Technology produced nuclear reactors and his reason took a back seat. The quake did the rest.
intrptr 1 month ago
@intrptr Then I demand you to throw away your PC, Phone, car, watch, tv; to never use buses, trains or planes; to never eat or drink anything you can buy from a shop. Start living in a cave, and then you can complain. Technology is bad right? Also, it was not the quake that caused this situation, it was the tsunami.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@shinobirevolution BTW, I don't own a car or a PC, or a phone or a watch, and I haven't rode a bus a train or a plane for decades. I don't burn coal either like oink oink says I do on here. I barter repairs for room and board and grow my own food. TV sucks. Tech isn't bad... its out of control. Oil and nuclear power and wars for instance. Oh and chemical fertilizers,genetic engineering, deforestation, uh what else? World is choking on "fallout" from wonderful technology.
intrptr 1 month ago
태평양산 물고기는 이제 영원히 작별이라는게 슬프다.
crystalscipio 2 months ago
NOW IS THE TIME TO GO VEGAN...or continue to radiate yourself by eating sea life...
mukadaymaengun 2 months ago
@mukadaymaengun yeah things that grow from the ground cant get radiation from the contaminated water in the sea. lol all food will be unsafe even VEGGIES
TheTamtam76 2 months ago
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@mukadaymaengun, I am still gonna eat meat, I hate those left wing radical groups who are telling us what to do.
hvanoorschot 2 months ago
@mukadaymaengun no
Darkwolf787 2 months ago
I eat sushi alot, I hope is safe...
JohnBrownsArmy 2 months ago
Obviously not good news but one thing I don't get is for decades since the first atomic bomb was detonated, primarily the US and UK have conducted hundreds if not thousands of nuclear tests (hydrogen, uranium, plutonuim and whatever else) above ground, underground, in the oceans, and even in space. Those instances were deliberate. Why the major uproar now and hopefully not but smearing of Japan and Fukushima (not including TEPCO of course) ? I wonder what readings a nuke detonation would give.
r655321 2 months ago
@r655321 Little Boy Atomic Bomb dropped on Hiroshima contains 64 KG uranium, Whereas reactor 1 in FuKushima, which has just experienced a full meltdown contained 68 Tons (68 000KG) of Melted fuel or Corium. So in other words, Fukushima is like having a few thousand Hiroshima like nuclear tests in a single location. No to mention tons of the spent fuel rods that get blown off or evaporated during the explosion... Oh my....Can you now see the severity of this disaster?
escapee78 2 months ago
@escapee78 It would not be fair to compare the two events, since the uranium used for Little boy was highly enriched and designed to have higher energy yields than a reactor. Mind you, no uranium ever got out of the reactor in Fukushima.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@escapee78 No, but I can see your idiocy.
shinobirevolution 1 month ago
@r655321 Two totally different events. A weapons detonation burns the "fuel" in a moment and the fallout produced is "mostly short lived". The rest of the Ur or Pu is not burned or fissioned in the burst. That is the long live dangerous part. Each weapons, "remains" is tiny compared to the amount of fuel in ANY reactor PLUS spent fuel pools. Slow burn" that in a core or sfp and you are left with 10's of tons of many different isotopes and radionuclides in air, oceans and groundwater. Spreading..
intrptr 2 months ago
@r655321 I'm pretty sure that there has been no nuclear device set off above our atmosphere. I think that for the most part, the fear and anger surrounding the Fukushima Daichi incident are overblown. You are right to think the way you do. The types of radiation released are completely different, and the Japanese (and us) are pretty much safe, outside of the exclusion zone ofc.
johntheactor 2 months ago
Would you like those rads to go, or will you be decaying here?
intrptr 2 months ago
Burned to the GROUND.
if you can get tuna that's canned NOW-BUY IT before the panic begins.
everready59 2 months ago
The Japs must be guilty of willful negligence that threatens the environment and safety of entire East Asia and the surrounding seas.
SuperYT4Ever 2 months ago
it's time to determine whether or not we should eat tuna from the Pacific.
wapassou 2 months ago
So reminiscent of the BP clusterfuck in the Gulf...
skeletonmom 2 months ago
Take a look at these Radiation Reducing Water Filters with Zeolite, may be the solution to those concerned with their drinking water... PureEffectFilters(dot)com
theonlyexpert 2 months ago
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So much for the theory "Don't worry! It'll be diluted in the sea to safe levels!" Makes you wonder if the plant isn't still leaking!
madgett41 2 months ago
So much for the theory "Don't worry! It'll be diluted in the to safe levels!" Makes you wonder if the plant isn't still leaking!
madgett41 2 months ago
@madgett41 It is still leaking. Checkout enenews(dot)com and fukushima-diary(dot)com for updates.
nismobeach 2 months ago
@nismobeach I didn't realise! I do now thanks
madgett41 2 months ago
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COMMENT PENDING APPROVAL OF ASSHOLE ISLAMIC CENSORS
yourtreat2 2 months ago
We are witnessing the Biggest holocaust ever
411American 2 months ago
@411American Most our oxygen comes from the sea and most sea life will die within 100 years. Can Oxygen be extracted from Dirt??
ScientologySucksAss 2 months ago
Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.
rich3365 2 months ago
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Fukushima disaster killed the world as we know it; you just don't know it yet.
stophypocrisy 2 months ago
fuck the population who let all this shit happen by not being involved over the last 200 years
doingitnowoncemore 2 months ago
It is the worst because it is the only. -.-
lumberj23 2 months ago in playlist More videos from AlJazeeraEnglish
I guess dining at my local sushi bar might be ill-advised
jonesey5168 2 months ago
mmmmmm radiated fish. Can I get some radiated tartar sauce with that?
rfl133 2 months ago
How does those gloves protect them from any thing, O well evil always wipes out evil,
SpaceMan131326 2 months ago
i dont think cesium will accumulate in the food-chain.
As i understand it, Cesium doesnt accumulate in organisms, not like fat-soluble toxins or mercury or other heavy metals do. On land, cesium just sinks down into the ground over time, lets hope the same happens in the sea, and that a relatively safe top layer develops and you need to dig a bit to get to the really bad cesium-concentrations.
still, thats nothing compared to the BP oil spill.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
@kurtilein3 ... didn't you listen to the vid? Cesium is being found in fish. It is accumulating and it is not sinking to the bottom of the ocean. You may be wrong. ... Not that the Gulf Oil Spill wasn't also another man-made catastrophe thanks to the latest technology brought to us by BP but doesn't oil breakdown by biological organism over time? I don't think too many living organism can do much about radiactive Cescium, Plutonium etc. and depleted Uranium (thanks to US army in Iraq)
tapolna 2 months ago
@tapolna
Im just saying that some elements accumulate in the body, and some dont. If you take in strontium or calcium, it will be incorporated into your bones and stay there until you die. Mercury sticks to your liver and other organs. But phosphorus, if you take it in, will leave your body again. It doesnt stick to anything in particular. I think Cesium is like phosphorus, it doesnt stick, so the concentration at the top of the food chain shouldnt be higher than at the bottom.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
@kurtilein3 By any chance, do you work for Tepco? What misinfo your comment is. Yah, it sinks to the bottom, and gets eaten by crawlers, which get eaten by bigger and bigger fish all the way up the ladder to you...
"really bad cesium"---LOL
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr I find it funny that whenever a person says anything contrary to the prevailing belief, everyone suddenly jumps to thinking that the persons arguing have a vested interest in the issue.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@johntheactor Either that or is just relaying some misinfo he heard on a "news" broadcast. Either way, minion of the state. What are you, his handler?
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr I think you'd be hard pressed to find any news station that will have a positive view on any kind of radiation. Also, I believe there would be better ways for a company to spend its money than to have people comment on a site that isn't in their language. Remember the context here. There is a fine line between showing proper concern and fear mongering. Kurtilein has a very optimistic view, but you shouldn't just dismiss him as an agent of "the powers that be" without thinking.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@johntheactor Ok dismissed. LOL That is what the "news" is for. Bought and paid for disinfo feel good, consume, everything A-OK now go back to sleep. Just trying to wake him up and counter his "optimism", as you put it. That is what the internet is for. Opinions from all sides instead of one way TEPCO>>>NHK>>>HIM/YOU>>>HERE ][ Blocked. Without thinking... You both did hear the video about Ce IN the fish right? You can believe that. =)
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr Unfortunately, the character limit makes meaningful debate impossible on technical issues like the dangers of nuclear radiation. I've a beef with the presentation of the video, but not with the numbers in it. Fortunately, I do not prescribe to trusting news facts. You read peer reviewed science journals for that. I am not uncomfortable with saying that I can and will be wrong at times, and will accept an argument if it is convincing on an empirical level.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@johntheactor Well how goody goody and too too. How about an Empirical joke? Can you read that in peer reviewed journals? Thats all it was. A joke, get it? Geez learn to laugh a little. For help on this, read other comments on here. Some are funny as hell.
My fav is, Can I get a little radioactive tartar sauce with that radioactive fish? LOL
I know how serious this is, thats why its important to laugh about it as well.
You should come on ATS.com, Youd love it. One thread on FUKU is a 1000 pages.
intrptr 2 months ago
@intrptr While I admit that laughter is an important part of living an enjoyable human life, I fail to see what that has to do with the concern at hand. Godzilla's only inevitable after all. We take our radioactive monsters seriously here after all.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@intrptr
Im just saying that concentrations at the top of the food chain wont be much higher than at the bottom, because it doesnt stick to anything in particular in your body. It goes out as it goes in. Only elements that stick to something special, get incorporated into the bones, liver, bone marrow or something else, like mercury or strontium or iodine, only these accumulate in the food chain. Its biochemistry. Uranium, Plutonium or radioactive Strontium are much worse, they stick.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
@kurtilein3 there are hundreds of isotopes also in the fish besides cesium..these aren't talked about for some reason
kansascitycomputers 2 months ago
@kansascitycomputers It's because Cs has the most dangerous isotopes, aside from Sr (if I remember correctly). The threat from other isotopes has mostly small because they've either decayed to be a non-threat (like iodine with a 8 day half life), or are not very radioactive at all.
johntheactor 2 months ago
@kurtilein3 Wouldn't it be fair to say that Sr and P are, by far, worse than U, since U tends towards having rather low radioactivity? Since U a naturally occurring element instead of one produced by an artificial nuclear process [Sr from decay] [P from manufacture in reactors]
Conversely, U is present from when it was produced in supernovae, meaning it's got super-low radioactivity/decay= safer
johntheactor 2 months ago
@johntheactor
i think when looking only at the radiation and natural / unused uranium, you are totally right. But there are two problems: first of all, even without the radioactivity, uranium is just toxic as hell. Just chemically incredibly toxic. And used uranium from a reactor is always mixed with heavier isotopes, and heavier elements that behave very similar in the environment, which are much more radioactive.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
First Fukushima story I've seen in months.
hoosierhiver 2 months ago
EuroNoobz is correct. It is silly to compare the sea concentrations between Chernobyl and Fukushima. However, assuming the report is accurate concerning the fish concentrations (15,000 Bq/kg), that is unfortunately too high for consumption (unless starvation is the alternative).
TheHealthPhysicist 2 months ago
Shame on you, TEPCO! Shame on you, LDP! Shame on you, all the scientist who's been saying Nuclear power plants are SAFE!
kaz84jp 2 months ago 2
BP executives--- "hey, Japan just had an Earthquake..lets make sure they have a meltdown so we can get the media's mind off of our complete incompetence".
Di0genesus 2 months ago
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ChaosButterfly8 2 months ago
@ChaosButterfly8 indeed
2learneasy 2 months ago
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I dont know who those psychopaths groups are. there are some psychopath groups. but actually, they can't control people's mind. the weakness of psychopath is that they are very stupid. but they can kill any people even children.
i8hy6e3 2 months ago
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Just eat it
xpander33 2 months ago
東京電力及び、無能な民主党政権と原子力推進派官僚の馬鹿達のせいだ。。。。。。。
kawanisi1968 2 months ago
@kawanisi1968 And TEPCO, it's because of our nuclear power advocates and bureaucrats foolish incompetent Democratic administration. . . . . . .
DavidAKZ 2 months ago
I wanted to travel to Japan. In fact, 2 weeks before the quake I was about to buy tickets to Tokyo..... I am not visiting for a while
MrKabobVideos 2 months ago
For those that say "Oh this was not a man made catastophe"-I am no chattin' about that I'm saying they hid a lot of things that should have been told to their people for their safety!
shay33ish 2 months ago
@shay33ish What idiot's saying it wasnt a manmade disaster?! Who the hell else is responsible??
breaks0 2 months ago
Largest sea contamination?! WTF did they do to their people? This should read the largest people contamination!
shay33ish 2 months ago
we are doomed! why do people still plan for a future is beyond me. The air, the sea, everything is polluted.
2Bgrego32 2 months ago 2
The tuna will have revenge for Japan's over fishing. Perhaps they will both go extinct.
caustic128 2 months ago
There are extremophile bacteria that eat radioactive material. That's a way to cure the ocean of this radioactive sludge. First thing that should be done though, is all TEPCO executives and the whole of the present Japanese government should fall on swords.
danielvincentkelley 2 months ago
And to think we got this planet for free. We have food that grows from the ground and fresh water falls from the sky. Who could want more......?O yeah....greedy homosapians want more and more more more more more........stuff. The only planet with complex organisms and we have raped it....enjoy your ball of shit future generations.
VajinalBloodFart 2 months ago 9
I say this to everyone!=: Between the Fukishima and BP oil spill, the future is in fish farms~! Seriously more support should be given to that!
HitomiNoRyu 2 months ago 2
@HitomiNoRyu I think you make a very good point, Mr. Hitomi. It could be that, for a while, the only non-radioactive sealife people might find to eat would be from fish farmed inland.
Sadly, I live in Florida on the Gulf of Mexico. Many gulf fishermen committed suicide because they hated what had happened and knew it would end their lifestyle. People here are still in denial about the impact the oil disaster had on the Gulf ecology.
This is a very sad world we've made for ourselves.
MartianStories 2 months ago 2
@MartianStories Thank you for agreeing! Even now I've been choosing farmed fish over wild-caught. The industry still has its flaws. Farming carnivorous fishes like tuna is still difficult to archive. Same goes none-schooling fish which are not used to cramped farming conditions. Hopefully husbandry techniques will improve with time.
PS I'm a woman.
HitomiNoRyu 2 months ago
@HitomiNoRyu Yeah, I think you're right about all this. Either way, our stupidity as a species never ceases to surprise me.
At any rate, yeah I figured you were a woman right after I posted that and then saw your page. I posted on it on your wall.
Anyway, have a great one. Keep those geckos dancing! :)
MartianStories 2 months ago
@HitomiNoRyu - Yeah, but, fish farms have a way to go to become safe, too. The existing ones have horrible things they feed the fish, nasty living environments...same problems that factory "farming" cows, pigs, chickens face. If only we could raise healthy animals in a healthy environment for food without cutting corners to make a buck...ironically its the same problems we have with power plants/mining/fracking-cutting corners to make a buck and fucking things up!
skeletonmom 2 months ago
@skeletonmom I never said it was perfect. I'm saying that's going to be a much bigger market and they should prepare for it. For the good and bad.
HitomiNoRyu 2 months ago
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HUMANS WANT TO PUSH FOR MORE MORE MORE AND DONT THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE ALL HAVE IPHONES, THE INTERNET, FACEBOOK, MTV BUT WE DONT HAVE BRAINS ANYMORE. ONLY A SELECT FEW. ITS A SHAME. MAYBE THE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL LOOK BACK AND LEARN FROM OUR IDIOTIC MONEY DRIVEN MISTAKES. IF YOU LIKE WHAT I SAY COME TO MY PAGE AND SHOW SOME SUPPORT.
thetextphantom215 2 months ago
Do the chuckle brothers work for IAEA, or was this a purposeful location of nuclear reactors in an area historically known for natural disasters?
RobsterJay 2 months ago
@RobsterJay I dunno, ask San Francisco, or any city along the San Andreas fault line.
omgitssoozin 2 months ago
I feel pretty bad for pushing the "like" button on this story, its really terrible what happened but this is some great reporting...keep up the good work
meek96 2 months ago 2
Ah well, so be it! Now let' s built MORE of THEM!!!!. Seems like many are thrilled about the idea and pushing the INSANE envellope forward as SO MANY NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS have occured in the USA alone over the PAST FEW MONTHS ! Now how much more TERROR sain and honest people must ENDURE by deluted psychopatic irresponsible CRIMINALS???!!!! You should see that GEIGER counter going WILD in AMERICA these days!...
Let alone the rest of the Globe since no data.. BIZARRE.lock up the culprits!
benoitrobert63 2 months ago
東京電と民主党政権と原子力推進官僚の大罪だ。。。。。。。。。
kawanisi1968 2 months ago
And people actually think that seafood is actually safe to eat nowadways! What a sad joke!
slhines7 2 months ago
Glow in the dark sushi!
UNIVERSITYHI 2 months ago
I think the story of godzilla was a prophecy... Soon to become reality
Dayum 2 months ago 43
@Dayum Godzirra!?! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
kdavidmcd 2 months ago
Guess they can't eat fish for a long time.
saquibs20 2 months ago
That's what happens when you operate 50 year old reactors in earthquake prone zones with lax supervision.
playgrrrr 2 months ago 4
@playgrrrr And we have a good 50 of them along our coasts as well. An electrical power outage, EMP attack or a nuclear warhead over some of these would render the whole of the United States uninhabitable. Take a look at this intereactive map of the world and see how most of the worlds nuclear power plants are almost exclusively along the coasts or larger rivers. This problem going forward is massive. /blogs.ft.com/energy-source/2011/03/16/the-nuclear-world-interactive-map/
Kallister18 2 months ago
the sea is much higher contaminated than with Chernobyl..
well no shit Sherlock, last time i checked Chernobyl wasn't next to the sea, nor hit by a tsunami
EuroNoobz 2 months ago 55
@EuroNoobz Al Jazeera is full of shit.
cjewelz 2 months ago
@EuroNoobz
yup also because steel hard cold iron communism, russia coved the plant with concrete and lead after one and a half month...
while fukushima still fucked-up after how much months?
-stopped counting already ;/
kjah11 2 months ago
all to boil water to create steam, yeah real evolved.
geebus80 2 months ago 3
beware of giant lizards.
enuvune 2 months ago