by the way, could semi-human being(emptyna) tell me why do you live in Canada rather than go back to China and serve your master?I am Chinese and I am pround of our nation coz in the past our nation create a lot of staff which influnced the whole world. we still can create the miracle,yet we must get rid of communism first.that's it,my opinion(LOL)
could you tell me why communism collapsed around the world? did you know what is the assumption behind the communism theory?In reality, communism doesn't make any sense coz human being is selfish.however,to the extent democracy can bring the fairness to their people. There r plenty of problems in mainland China such as unhealty legal system, which does not convict everyone fairly coz the member of commuism normally has speical privilege. people even can not argue that sort of thing.
Anyone has the right to express his/her ideas, but beleiving one own version of reality as final and condemn, distort, making unjustified assumptions & stereotypes of others are just the mind of a "little people". I perfectly understand overseas Chinese's frustration that can't enjoy sufficient equality and respect. But some of them are also like Victorian Park uncles fantasizing oppression against them and evils in any people having thought different from their. I could only feel pity for them.
if there is threat of western, as you would threathen as if it were a logic boost, then a corrupted system like we now have in china under this party shall fascilitate, rather than resist; actually, china is already economically enslaved in the global economy. we are sweatshops, we are goons and slaves sold by a empire of peasant thugs! to hell you blind ccp agent, kiss ur boss' ass and show ur brown nose, but ur ancestors will curse you in the hells!
kid, read the history objectively and decide whether 八国联军 is an imperialist aggression or not,,, a few dozen thousand of CHINESE believers were killed by stupid mob for their religious belief, but I guess people like you being "nationalist" will not appreciate the need for religious freedom under the protection of the rule of law...
yea lol a country rule under religion where everyone fall into the promise of next life been consider to be "freedom" to whites?
lol i see, i see.. still so blind by your media and propaganda of freedom.. lol
the fact that you guys demand for this thing you called "human right" and "democracy" to be use in every country on earth is totally againist your idea of "human right".. lol
what you gonna do? forcing use to become democracy or something? it is our right to be communist =)
also you fool know nothing about China, China is never a true communist, we just borrow the name while we are alliance with Russia~~
well think anything you want.. the movement in 1964 didn't set China into chaos, which block your way to further invasion.. i know your are sad.. but thats no reason to bullshit around..
look in history and look what you guys have done.. every penny in your pocket is filled with blood of other, the pain, the sorrw, the hatred..
and now the mighty white man, the owner of slave in third world country. the owner of factory all around the world which pollute the world. the boss of child labor and the source of all killing machine..the bandit all around the world, the one who just rob Iraq and take control of their oil plant~~ once again stand under the spot light, and demand for freedom and human right... lol
the best thing you can do is "save the planet, kill yourself" XD
if this is the average quality of Chinese in this world, I would rather kill myself to get rid of the title of being a CHINESE,,, lol
kid, I knew China much better than you do because I taught courses about it and read thousands of books written by Mainland Chinese, overseas Chinese, American, German and other scholars....
tell me how much you know about politic? how much public know about it? if they don't know then how do they vote? who give them the idea of which one is right and wrong?? isn't that media?? lol
also i felt shame.. to have a 汉奸 as dumb as you are.. really we are chinese(you are excluded, no worry). we have our own culture, we don't need other to tell us what to do, what is right what is wrong. we will develop our own culture.
I;m also ashamed to be of the same nationality with someone like you who know nothing about history except through propaganda and can write such thing in the internet, "save the planet, kill yourself."
I'm really sorry for the country and your parents who raise you up into such a kind of people who know nothing about modesty and respect for others.
you don't have to felt shame at all, we are not from the same country, nor do we share the same blood line. you are one of those what we consider as 汉奸, meaning something who forget and give up their culture and put individual over the entire race.. and thats someone like you..
tell me do you really believe in this decomacy idea? serious.. are you that foolish to blieve such thing?? i mean even some european no longer believe in it.. it is very simple to see for anyone who is not blind
tell me how much do you think the public know about the person they are voting for? i mean other then what they learn from media.. it is funny that photo no longer exist for hundren of years and today someone still believe what they see on tv and newspaper is truth..
it is not like newspaper have no politic, you do know that every media is supporting certain partys right? and this apply to all democracy country.
and for now perhaps you should just go and get lost~~ for you who have never consider oneself as chiense, and will never be consider to be chinese by anyone. perhaps you better go stick with your white friend and enjoy your freedom and human right in your dream of lie~~ lol
it is funny that some people they never see. also can you say that if the 1964 movement continue for another month or so, us troop will not once again march into china? can you say that?
it is not like they never done that before.. korea, vitenam, aferica, hidu, india, north america.. especially with the founder of democracy - the native indian.. who been mostly murdered and pushing into small reserved land now..
really, idon't understand people like you.. it is almost like you enjoy to be someone else... i mean are you really you? do you have your standard, your own measure?
you are not a human, you are just a shadow or past and present....
atleast for me the only one who can slave me is myself, freedom is never given nor brought by anyone else. you must free yourself lol from the old idea, from other's sight, for what other tell you what you should have be..
well nevermind.. i can't expect too much from you can i? people as dumb as you are may never understand such thing.. for you how live a meaningless life, chasing for things never exist.. now enjoy your dream, enjoy your lie and if some day you awake you may come back..
18 years of today become one the darkest day in chinese history.yeah, that is because of you stupid fuckers! with all due respect to the innocent people that died from that day, because of mis-leaded by idiots like Wang Dan and others, how many of them really understood the meaning of democracy? it is so pathetic that people like Wang Dang can so easily forget what is running in their blood! and turn against their own country and people! China need a policy of its own, not your western ideas!
Maybe there are lot of defects, BUT now chinese have a better life. Can those so-colded student leaders give chinese people better life? I do not think so. Our aim is to let chinese people have better life!! Those politicsmangers only care themselves but NOT chinese people !!!!!!!! SErve for people---Our truely mentor: MAO zedong
There is no winner of this 18-year-old tragedy and dispute, please do not make it so emotional to gain sympathy any more. Wang Dan, Chai Lin, Wu'er Kai Xi, and some so-called Hongkong compatriots, you all deserve this comment, I quote, "too simple, sometimes naive"
杀光所有5毛！因为他们只要钱，不要脸！
Fergus3232 1 year ago
全世界的人看得一清二楚，坦克左轉右擺右轉左擺沒有展過這人，你話坦克展死人。還是市民燒坦克，坦克無人控制横沖直撞展死市民的圖片。
lobogojo 1 year ago
打倒共产党！释放刘晓波！
lwsyx00 2 years ago
这些吃屎的所谓的学生领袖才应该对64负责。
我很纳闷，你们怎么都没死呢？
死的全是不普通学生，当时的你们在哪里？你们不是领袖吗？不是应该领导他们跟解放军对抗吗？
诅咒你们这些汉奸，杂种们，下地狱吧。
elida1112 2 years ago
@elida1112 對, 你們領5毛1帖加誰加點還不知那年那月能出頭, 怎你家領導有特供有2奶魚池還有2千萬現梱......如今還是你家領導好當啊!
biklikbala 1 year ago
运运应该为被学运暴徒残杀的几千官兵负责！！！
joe1981chen 2 years ago
打倒共产党！！！还我中华！！！
Mike881011 2 years ago 2
这个人为什么还有脸出来恶心人呢？六四那帮人根本没有资格再谈六四
aoguspider 2 years ago
王丹
lopiqol 2 years ago 3
好一個21世紀的『孫中山』啊
王丹，你還以為現在是滿清末年啊？？？
十多億人民水深火熱....等您們這批『熱血革命家』『王丹』來救啊？？？
Kungfuchen200910 2 years ago
有些人，用同學同胞的血在美國吃香喝辣，比真正的漢奸還齷齪
漢奸還表裡如一，齷齪的人 嘴巴講的好美，實際上，沒有立場，隨時可以變)
Kungfuchen200910 2 years ago
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wow. He is a gay
OrsinoDuke 3 years ago
题六四惨案
千古奇冤
国家灾难
英魂已去
妖魔当道
fankangzhe1 3 years ago 2
题暴乱平定
英明决断
国之大幸
乱妖已除
中华复兴
xbdxbd 3 years ago
事情发展到最后，你们一面让学生誓死保卫广场，一面自己悄悄跑到外国大使馆躲避，你们又良心何在？无耻卑鄙！
天安门母亲们憎恨的不只有中共还有你们这些煽动者和领导者，为什么有些人死了？而你们这些个领袖们却一个一个在国外却活得那么滋润，你们就心安么？
我可以告诉你，等到我们这一代执政的时候，你们也别想回来，你们背叛祖国，背叛战友，罪有应得！
liumengjia 3 years ago 4
共产党像疯狗一样到处抓人、杀人，它们在电视上说学生领袖有枪就是为杀学生作铺垫，都这样了还不走？你把没人性的军人用冲锋枪扫学生、用坦克碾学生抹去，单单说学生烧没人性的军人，真是别有用心啊！专为共党服务的狗文人怎就这么多呢？？？
fankangzhe1 3 years ago 6
奇怪，你怎么不说学生疯狂放火，烧武警，打武警呢？
abcshamo 2 years ago
如果局面不是混乱不堪，你王丹为什么不坚持到最后，而是要回学校搞你的校园民主？你们自己内部本身就意见不一，各自为政，怎么能让政府信服，又怎么去和政府沟通？你们占据广场那么长时间，造成社会严重动荡，政府可能不管么？当时作为你们领袖之一的柴玲，喊出的口号居然是推翻中共政府，重新建立国家！作为中共他们会容忍么？
liumengjia 3 years ago
当时中共虽然强硬，但是也要求和学生沟通，严明复几次到广场对话，可是学生是什么态度？不是瞎起哄，就是不予理会。当时李鹏和乌尔凯西对话的时候，吾尔凯西自己都说现在的局面我已无法掌控,运动发生到后期根本就像没有组织的散沙，根本提不出什么真正的实质东西！就是一味的要求政府下台，对于中共来讲这可能么？
liumengjia 3 years ago
打到你妈了个逼啊 狗日的台湾狗 你怎么不去死啊？？？？？王丹就是一外国狗！！！
zjy5211314qm 3 years ago
爱国不等于爱党 请你分清楚 同为中国人 我有点看不下去 学生完全是出自一片赤子之心，就从这一点来说武装镇压是百分之百不对的
Hoton999 3 years ago
打倒中国共产党 消灭共产暴政
415162788 3 years ago 5
你比柴lin要有魄力得多.看不过那傻妞瞎指挥.只是现在的中国,我们也很喜欢,18年+ 过去的 就是过去了 现在的中国,将会更强大,历史 也只是历史!人们的血没有白流.
看我们奥运不也举办得好好的么! 我是地道的中国人,我爱中国!这也就是最地道的中国人讲出的真心话! 王丹你要是依然爱国的话,就应该放下过去的包袱,帮助中国走向更完美的道路, 你是有魄力思想的人 至少还能至力以正规形式改变点什么.例如统一台湾啊等等出一份力,而不是把愤怒化成怨气.
RamonToradgi 3 years ago
死了的人不能枉死 政府向人民道个谦有这么难吗？
Hoton999 3 years ago
可以出國愛黨的既得利益者最愛代表全國人民稱全國上下都愛黨，因為農民有選票時，就不會投黨一票了。
kamankoa 3 years ago
我从来不相信民主 那些都是打着民主的旗号 干些政治的事情！ 目前 没有一个国家是真正意义上的民主， 这是个事实！民主这东西很飘渺。。。 只要自己在德国家在进步 在发展 劳动人民生活的好， 搞那么多事情干什么！
huluwa228 3 years ago
by the way, could semi-human being(emptyna) tell me why do you live in Canada rather than go back to China and serve your master?I am Chinese and I am pround of our nation coz in the past our nation create a lot of staff which influnced the whole world. we still can create the miracle,yet we must get rid of communism first.that's it,my opinion(LOL)
pearlyueyue 3 years ago
low efficient productivity, eliminating personal creativity,etc. Actually, democracy just give people a right to build and create their own homeland.
pearlyueyue 3 years ago
To emptyna
could you tell me why communism collapsed around the world? did you know what is the assumption behind the communism theory?In reality, communism doesn't make any sense coz human being is selfish.however,to the extent democracy can bring the fairness to their people. There r plenty of problems in mainland China such as unhealty legal system, which does not convict everyone fairly coz the member of commuism normally has speical privilege. people even can not argue that sort of thing.
pearlyueyue 3 years ago
Anyone has the right to express his/her ideas, but beleiving one own version of reality as final and condemn, distort, making unjustified assumptions & stereotypes of others are just the mind of a "little people". I perfectly understand overseas Chinese's frustration that can't enjoy sufficient equality and respect. But some of them are also like Victorian Park uncles fantasizing oppression against them and evils in any people having thought different from their. I could only feel pity for them.
joellaucl 3 years ago
19年了
zlcumthg3 3 years ago
1900年6月17日八国联军进入中国
由于西方传教士、教民与一般民众的冲突、帝后党争等等的因素所引起的义和团运动，导致部分中国民众袭击在华 的外国人。而清政府面对列强要求剿灭义和团的态度又暧昧不明，因此几个列强国家决定由自己出兵镇压义和团。 不过一般认为这些列强国家出兵中国的动机并不单纯，
《表面上是维护本国在华人士的权益，实际上是趁机进一步剥削、掠夺中国的权益。》
八国联军军事行动，以清政府与总共十一个国家签订辛丑条约为终，其中规定清政府赔款白银《4亿5千万两》( 四亿五千万即当时中国总人口，以示每人一两，达羞辱中国人之意)，分三十九年付清，被称为庚子赔款。联军占领北京后，对北京皇城、衙门、官府大肆掠夺，因而造成大量中国文物和文化遗产(包括故宫，颐和园，西 山以及圆明园)的失窃、破坏。
难道你们都忘记了吗？ 前有八国联军， 后有伊拉克。 西方人以正义与真理之名入侵， 掳掠。。难道大家都眼辖了吗？ 如果六四成功了今天的中国会是什么样？ 你们奢望西方侵略者带给你们自由与民主？
emptyna 3 years ago
八国联军同六四有联系吗？
你的逻辑是什么？证据是什么？我们好好理论一下！
lucianizhu 3 years ago
朝鲜战争听过不？ 越南战争听过不？ 美国都进来了吧？虽然在中国和苏联的阻挠下并没有成功。。 但是成功例子也并不少。。 比如前年才"解放"的伊拉克。
恩。。 中国动乱 然后西方来帮忙。 就和伊拉克一样， 在伊拉克美国第一个控制的就是油田。 那我们这里呢？ 第二件事肯定是驻军了。。 驻军帮我们"维持和平"顺便推翻一切"错误理论"
朝鲜战争难道不是美国挑起当地人士要求民主才开始的吗？
如果要民主那就加入共产党然后从内部在不损害民族利益的前提下进行，武力，强迫只会让我们陷入万劫不复！！ 如果要改变也必须是柔和的， 内在的。。 因为这有这样我们的国土才不会再一次被侵略， 我们的土地才不会再一次被烈火践踏~~
emptyna 3 years ago
中国不会照搬伊拉克的案例。这是肯定的。首先，当时中国政局其实还没有乱到这个地步。试想，六四民运结果不是军事镇压，难道真的会让中共倒台？中共还是操控政局，但是民主的基础可以建立起来。我的记忆是，六四一直到军管关头，军方并没有出现有政治野心的图谋。最后还是当权派急于以武力喝推对其政权的不信任。
牺牲的固然是人民。但是同时也可以看到当时的当权派其政治利益下团结的程度。民运将使这些人一下子失去一切，所以他们慌了。
外国势力对我国还没有渗透到这种地步，要明白我们是核力量大国，岂有随便被人入侵的可能？
这种假设都是不成立的。中国同伊拉克没有任何可比性。
关键要明白中国的本质问题：现在的中国经济和社会发展，已经到了非从政治上加以改革不可的阶段。任何抵制这一阶段早一天到来的企图都是一种反动。
抵制民主，就是抵制中下层中国人的社会发展要求，剥夺他们在经济发展中的正当利益，从而制造封建特权凌驾百姓头上的复辟政府。
这是中国的地狱，任何持这种主张的人和团体，都是中国人的敌人，必将遭到历史的清算和报复。
lucianizhu 3 years ago
如果那个时候持续了一个月左右就会这么乱了, 因为不仅是中国. 还有台湾和香港在其中添油加醋~~
如果六四中共没有镇压那就不是中共倒台, 而是民族倒台. 到时候西方列强就会以解放我们的名义再次进入中国. 伊拉克那边不是也是要解放吗? 韩国也是自由民主.. 越南.....
你以为什么呢1969念俄罗斯还入侵中国呢, 这场战争打了整整一年到1970年谈判后暂时和平了下来. 之后更加是明争暗斗.
你以为中国很强吗? 如果只面对一两个国家, 或许我们不怕,但是面对所有的白人国家... 八国联军的时候他们一起来了..之后其中两国日本和苏联分别再次进入中国占领了黑龙江一代和东三省~~
你真的相信如果那个时候中国没有镇压,世界各国不会来解放我们吗? 什么渗透? 根本就是放屁,因为他们是所谓的民主制度.所以他们首先必须通过媒体传播谣言, 然后把他们侵略的行为正规化, 合理化. 而一个理由对他们说就已经足够了!!
emptyna 3 years ago
说什么抵制民主之类的..完全都是被西方的宣传毒害了...实际上共产党这些年一直都在改变, 而且任何也也都可以加入政党. 又不是帝制的.. 谁有能耐谁上去, 你想改变那你去加入共产党然后改变它啊? 在广场上闹事,然后英国都送了一批香港人来支持了. 眼看事情就要闹大了,西方列强的军队就要进入我们国家了...
这个是否如果不让这个声音安静下来， 然后西方列强绝对会扶持那些大学生的首领成为他们的傀儡。。 然后假借解放， 自由的名义再次入侵中国。 而且入侵后还会以军费的理由跟我们要次签订什么条约要什么什么矿产， 木材之类的~~
西方诸国一直都是这么干的。。 你看看不论是印度还是中非各国。。 仿佛这套都通用~~
emptyna 3 years ago
而且其实这些弱智应该想想到底哪个时候的中国是否适合民主制度。 没错民主制度的却"人权" "自由" 不过同样社会是松散的， 而内在的矛盾也非常大。
如果中国在那个时候进入民主了那么中国能否发展的那么快吗？ 或许商人会更有钱， 但是国家呢？ 永远都是third world country?
个人感觉为了民族， 为了祖国， 为了未来牺牲一点所谓的人权， 自由没有什么。 但是这并不代表他们不会来到。 所谓的民主制度永远不会降临中国， 而即将到来的是一个崭新的秩序， 一个我们中国自己秩序。。 它会远比所谓的民主制度更加完善， 更加合理化。 而我们都将为这一天的到来而努力。
我们是中国人， 为什么我们一定要接受西方的制度？西方的制度都是好的？ 西方人放的屁是不是也是香的？ 不知道你有没有看过金庸小说白马啸西风，小说中最后一段是："这些都是好的， 但是我偏偏不喜欢"
做自己就够了， 何必做别人呢？ 更何况我们有自信能找到自己的路， 那又何必像个白痴一样的跟随别人的脚印？？
emptyna 3 years ago
if there is threat of western, as you would threathen as if it were a logic boost, then a corrupted system like we now have in china under this party shall fascilitate, rather than resist; actually, china is already economically enslaved in the global economy. we are sweatshops, we are goons and slaves sold by a empire of peasant thugs! to hell you blind ccp agent, kiss ur boss' ass and show ur brown nose, but ur ancestors will curse you in the hells!
lucianizhu 3 years ago
kid, read the history objectively and decide whether 八国联军 is an imperialist aggression or not,,, a few dozen thousand of CHINESE believers were killed by stupid mob for their religious belief, but I guess people like you being "nationalist" will not appreciate the need for religious freedom under the protection of the rule of law...
joellaucl 3 years ago
yea lol a country rule under religion where everyone fall into the promise of next life been consider to be "freedom" to whites?
lol i see, i see.. still so blind by your media and propaganda of freedom.. lol
the fact that you guys demand for this thing you called "human right" and "democracy" to be use in every country on earth is totally againist your idea of "human right".. lol
what you gonna do? forcing use to become democracy or something? it is our right to be communist =)
emptyna 3 years ago
also you fool know nothing about China, China is never a true communist, we just borrow the name while we are alliance with Russia~~
well think anything you want.. the movement in 1964 didn't set China into chaos, which block your way to further invasion.. i know your are sad.. but thats no reason to bullshit around..
look in history and look what you guys have done.. every penny in your pocket is filled with blood of other, the pain, the sorrw, the hatred..
emptyna 3 years ago
and now the mighty white man, the owner of slave in third world country. the owner of factory all around the world which pollute the world. the boss of child labor and the source of all killing machine..the bandit all around the world, the one who just rob Iraq and take control of their oil plant~~ once again stand under the spot light, and demand for freedom and human right... lol
the best thing you can do is "save the planet, kill yourself" XD
emptyna 3 years ago
if this is the average quality of Chinese in this world, I would rather kill myself to get rid of the title of being a CHINESE,,, lol
kid, I knew China much better than you do because I taught courses about it and read thousands of books written by Mainland Chinese, overseas Chinese, American, German and other scholars....
joellaucl 3 years ago
you have no worry about that, you are not chinese, not now not ever!! you don't have to worry about these, becuase you were never a chinese.
lol.. european narrow view of the world.. those dumb@ss they think they know everything but the fact is that they know nothing! i mean nothing..
emptyna 3 years ago
tell me how much you know about politic? how much public know about it? if they don't know then how do they vote? who give them the idea of which one is right and wrong?? isn't that media?? lol
also i felt shame.. to have a 汉奸 as dumb as you are.. really we are chinese(you are excluded, no worry). we have our own culture, we don't need other to tell us what to do, what is right what is wrong. we will develop our own culture.
emptyna 3 years ago
I;m also ashamed to be of the same nationality with someone like you who know nothing about history except through propaganda and can write such thing in the internet, "save the planet, kill yourself."
I'm really sorry for the country and your parents who raise you up into such a kind of people who know nothing about modesty and respect for others.
joellaucl 3 years ago
you don't have to felt shame at all, we are not from the same country, nor do we share the same blood line. you are one of those what we consider as 汉奸, meaning something who forget and give up their culture and put individual over the entire race.. and thats someone like you..
tell me do you really believe in this decomacy idea? serious.. are you that foolish to blieve such thing?? i mean even some european no longer believe in it.. it is very simple to see for anyone who is not blind
emptyna 3 years ago
tell me how much do you think the public know about the person they are voting for? i mean other then what they learn from media.. it is funny that photo no longer exist for hundren of years and today someone still believe what they see on tv and newspaper is truth..
it is not like newspaper have no politic, you do know that every media is supporting certain partys right? and this apply to all democracy country.
emptyna 3 years ago
and for now perhaps you should just go and get lost~~ for you who have never consider oneself as chiense, and will never be consider to be chinese by anyone. perhaps you better go stick with your white friend and enjoy your freedom and human right in your dream of lie~~ lol
it is funny that some people they never see. also can you say that if the 1964 movement continue for another month or so, us troop will not once again march into china? can you say that?
emptyna 3 years ago
it is not like they never done that before.. korea, vitenam, aferica, hidu, india, north america.. especially with the founder of democracy - the native indian.. who been mostly murdered and pushing into small reserved land now..
really, idon't understand people like you.. it is almost like you enjoy to be someone else... i mean are you really you? do you have your standard, your own measure?
you are not a human, you are just a shadow or past and present....
emptyna 3 years ago
atleast for me the only one who can slave me is myself, freedom is never given nor brought by anyone else. you must free yourself lol from the old idea, from other's sight, for what other tell you what you should have be..
well nevermind.. i can't expect too much from you can i? people as dumb as you are may never understand such thing.. for you how live a meaningless life, chasing for things never exist.. now enjoy your dream, enjoy your lie and if some day you awake you may come back..
emptyna 3 years ago
李卓人的真面目
十幾廿年前佢比中國大陸捉拿時佢面都青晒 , 要佢寫悔過書 , 佢就寫 ,
寫完落番泥就話被迫 , 如果你認為自己對的話就根本唔洗寫 ,
就算因此而被囚都是值得 , 起碼會感召一班同道中人 , 要求民主的
正值理據就更堅定 . 但你沒有這樣做 , 因為你本來就只想捞油水.
jj20362047 3 years ago
走狗
angle5love 3 years ago
为什么学潮的头头都跑到美国去了,那里是不是更民主呀,如果喜欢美国完全可以常住美国呀.中国是个自由的国家,如果不喜欢中国, 离开中国就是了.不要说你是多么多么的爱国.爱国就不会跑到美国去了.应该和当年的死了的人同生死共患难。
如果当年学潮成功了，比现在的中国好不到那里去．这就是政治，政治就是骗人，谁当权都一样．受骗上当的都是普通老百姓．
以前看过此片，一、学生太幼稚，二、柴铃是个十足的大垃圾，丑陋的投机主义者，搞起义，拿学生的血为自己铺路。
可怜的学生们啊，为了乌托邦而奋斗，到头来自己人先打了起来。
不定下具体计划，光喊"民主"两字，是起不到任何效果的
yuloworld 3 years ago
统治者的镇压再正常不过了。如果中国真的因为你们而进入混乱状态，10几亿人的生活 的责任，你付得起么？！
yuloworld 3 years ago
为什么学潮的头头都跑到美国去了,那里是不是更民主呀,如果喜欢美国完全可以常住美国呀.中国是个自由的国家,如果不喜欢中国, 离开中国就是了.不要说你是多么多么的爱国.爱国就不会跑到美国去了.应该和当年的死了的人同生死共患难。
如果当年学潮成功了，比现在的中国好不到那里去．这就是政治，政治就是骗人，谁当权都一样．受骗上当的都是普通老百姓．
以前看过此片，一、学生太幼稚，二、柴铃是个十足的大垃圾，丑陋的投机主义者，搞起义，拿学生的血为自己铺路。
可怜的学生们啊，为了乌托邦而奋斗，到头来自己人先打了起来。
不定下具体计划，光喊"民主"两字，是起不到任何效果的
yuloworld 3 years ago
yuloworld 3 years ago
为什么学潮的头头都跑到美国去了,那里是不是更民主呀,如果喜欢美国完全可以常住美国呀.中国是个自由的国家,如果不喜欢中国,离开中国就是了.不要说你是多么多么的爱国.爱国就不会跑到美国去了.应该和当年的死了的人同生死共患难。
如果当年学潮成功了，比现在的中国好不到那里去．这就是政治，政治就是骗人，谁当权都一样．受骗上当的都是普通老百姓．
以前看过此片，一、学生太幼稚，二、柴铃是个十足的大垃圾，丑陋的投机主义者，搞起义，拿学生的血为自己铺路。
可怜的学生们啊，为了乌托邦而奋斗，到头来自己人先打了起来。
不定下具体计划，光喊"民主"两字，是起不到任何效果的
yuloworld 3 years ago
"学运精英"们太伤国人了。当初拿了不知多少中国各界的学运捐款，后来又抵制中国加入世贸，抵制给予中国最惠国待遇。在他们看来 ，抵制中国就是抵制中共。太可笑了，其实不管是哪个政党执政，只要给民众福祉谁会一天吃饱没事儿去搞。回首这十几年，看来中共的 渐进改革是很成功，急改很有可能搞成俄罗斯的状况。
人要与时俱进嘛，别老以为全球华人就你"独醒"其他全是白痴。多点政治智慧会点治国策略也就不会搞成现在学运的结果了。
最可怜的是赵紫阳的改革派还有那些被你们煽动起来的学生（同时说明，部队士兵也死了很多，如果一次运动能够运动到让部队士兵也死 ，可想而知这个运动是充满暴力的）
yuloworld 3 years ago
统治者的镇压再正常不过了。如果中国真的因为你们而进入混乱状态，10几亿人的生活 的责任，你付得起么？！
yuloworld 3 years ago
有道理.个人感觉中国的民主建设是和经济发展都是在进步的.我爱我的祖国.
0504011546 3 years ago
还算大学生，连讲话的构想，主题都表达不清
sekiguo88 3 years ago
sb一个
sinogogogo 3 years ago 4
不明白，为什么香港的纪录片《天安门》里面采访候德建的时候，他认为当时在天安门广场根本就没有看到那种血腥屠杀，而王丹你却始终认为这是中共的屠杀呢？
我不知道中共镇压法轮功为了什么，但是就你王丹而言，请你也仔细地想一想，学生运动的后期，整个的学生组织处于混乱状态，甚至有人要篡权，这样的运动搞下去，结局会是什么？统治者的镇压再正常不过了。如果中国真的因为你们而进入混乱状态，10几亿人的生活的责任，你付得起么？！
请不要一直停留在自己的世界中，中国是你的国家，请你首先为这样一个历史上饱经战争国度考虑一下她的繁荣和稳定吧。
rogers0929 3 years ago 2
这家伙的脑子还沉浸在80年代的水平。
sativa119 3 years ago 4
十八年后如果还有像你这样的没本事的傻子搞什么分裂活动，我绝对赞成中共再次实施十八年前的措施。。。我要说的是，如果你们要死的话都去吧，我一个普通老百姓日子还过得挺好的
leotopk 3 years ago 4
沒覺得政治上有恥辱
sunyansmile 3 years ago 3
18 years of today become one the darkest day in chinese history.yeah, that is because of you stupid fuckers! with all due respect to the innocent people that died from that day, because of mis-leaded by idiots like Wang Dan and others, how many of them really understood the meaning of democracy? it is so pathetic that people like Wang Dang can so easily forget what is running in their blood! and turn against their own country and people! China need a policy of its own, not your western ideas!
chaosyi 3 years ago 3
你是中国历史的悲剧 你们烧汽车 搞暴动 杀警察 还把他们的尸体高挂示众 这就是你所谓追求一个叫做"民主"的梦想的途径? 看得出来当时你还年轻 不理性 18年后还自欺欺人 可笑
我在国外 发现中国现在很民主嘛 不要标榜什么不全民公投就不民主的话 中国有自己的国情 人口是一个普通西方国家的n多倍 很多事情不能用你想当然的方式去做
zkyu 4 years ago 5
@zkyu 草泥马的狗日的人口论，印度人口不多吗，他们照样民主！就你这叼理论也拿出来丢人，中国就算中国人只剩10个人，你照样能编出歪理来，说中国不适合民主！草泥马，人口多只与轮奸你妈有关系，因为人太多，你吗受不了啊！操你吗的，拿钱发帖断子绝孙！！
ytbivan001 1 year ago
不要空喊民主，不要空谈理想，你们的民主怎么达成，你们的理想如何实现？恐怕直到18年之后的今天，你们自己也不知道吧！
laviecommesoleil 4 years ago 2
解放军死了很多，而且很惨。场面令人发指。那一刻，暴动学生就是统治者的敌人。统治者的行为是可以理解的，也是最正确的！
bobzhangzhe 4 years ago 5
柴玲就可以回国。另外刘宾雁无法回国的一个原因是，他居然和法轮功勾搭在了一起。
feiwu1222 4 years ago 3
徜徉在他自我的肯定中无法自拔！一个悲剧。
orleans922 4 years ago
你还好意思回去？
rubyxp1983 4 years ago 2
王丹加油！中国人的骄傲~为你自豪。中国人加油啊，为了尊严，为了国家更为了自己
zj3098759 4 years ago
Oh! speech of Pang Dan! GORGEOUS!
jxxjxx 4 years ago
該死的共產黨
591008 4 years ago
说实话以前听说，今天第一次看了视频，这么多关于64的报道，长了不少见识。我是留学生，当时那些学生思想太单纯拉。我好像回到那个时候去和那些学生理论。他们太让人生气了。瞧那几个"领导人"说话漏洞百出，前后矛盾。我怎么看那个柴玲说话就想抽她呢？看完视频后给我的感觉就是"人民解放军好样的！"
jiedun 4 years ago 3
同意
Faerie32167 4 years ago
Maybe there are lot of defects, BUT now chinese have a better life. Can those so-colded student leaders give chinese people better life? I do not think so. Our aim is to let chinese people have better life!! Those politicsmangers only care themselves but NOT chinese people !!!!!!!! SErve for people---Our truely mentor: MAO zedong
iamasars001 4 years ago
说实话以前听说，今天第一次看了视频，这么多关于64的报道，长了不少见识。我是留学生，当时那些学生思想太单纯拉。我好像回到那个时候去和那些学生理论。他们太让人生气了。瞧那几个"领导人"说话漏洞百出，前后矛盾。我怎么看那个柴玲说话就想抽她呢？看完视频后给我的感觉就是"人民解放军好样的！"
jiedun 4 years ago
五毛党还真多
zlcumthg3 4 years ago
很好!你的資訊廣.頭腦清楚.
民主就是這樣.
「雖然我不同意你說的話，但我誓死維護你說話的權利」
by伏爾泰
這就是民主的一種表現.
Cavin520 4 years ago 3
很好!你的資訊廣.頭腦清楚.
Cavin520 4 years ago
看来你们所谓的民主也只是幌子而已，我个人的看法要说不行吗？你们也听不得反对意见嘛！自己就把面具撕下去，哈哈！
另外，希望你不要再回复我了，累！
tz5678 4 years ago
喂，不骂人你会死啊！？
什么叫奴才？我说王丹关你什么事，你替他叫嚣什么？你才是他的奴才！
tz5678 4 years ago
王丹之流现在是利用追求民主的口号捞钱，他们如果不坚持就没有外国的反华势力捐钱给他们，所以他们根本就是向外国势力要饭的走狗，可怜！！
天安门广场是他们随便烧纸祭奠的场所吗？笑话！
tz5678 4 years ago
说的全是狗屁。坚决支持党中央的英名决定。王丹之流在中国没有市场。
mfang999 4 years ago
学生的态度有问题?吾尔开希有权利以自己的方式表达自己的意愿,难道他要以君臣之礼朝拜李鹏不成?
loveheromore 4 years ago
死了活该~全炸死算了~
ZIYANHUANGLONG 4 years ago
明明是政府先开坦克压的人，气愤的学生才烧的车，政府对这个是怎么解释的？还有当时主要反李鹏家族贪污，也涉及邓小平的利益，所以才出兵镇压，这里不懂历史的小屁孩先了解一下历史再发表言论
harbinman2008 4 years ago 3
学生太狂热，不理性，那是搞明主吗？乌尔凯西嚣张的样子，明明就是要夺权，被你骗者送死的学生可怜，建立国家，被你们烧死的士兵的母亲找谁说理去。
tt2mm 4 years ago
学生太狂热，不理性，那是搞明主吗？乌尔凯西嚣张的样子，明明就是要夺权，被你骗者送死的学生可怜，建立国家，被你们烧死的士兵的母亲找谁说理去。
tt2mm 4 years ago
学生太狂热，不理性，那是搞明主吗？乌尔凯西嚣张的样子，明明就是要夺权，被你骗者送死的学生可怜，建立国家，被你们烧死的士兵的母亲找谁说理去。
tt2mm 4 years ago
evil taiwanese intelligence agency
lxymarine 4 years ago
共匪！
okahno 4 years ago
王丹、柴玲、吾爾開希之流應該自殺以謝罪，
就是他們的錯誤領導，導致了血案的發生。。
xiaohuaai 4 years ago
支持中共中央的英名决定，有些人就害怕中国不乱，就想让中国做别人的附属。我们国家虽然存在问题，但是一个这么大的国家建设起来 容易吗。美国顺利发展了几百年，掠夺别人那么多。能不强大吗。你们为什么不愿意看到中国的强大。共产党现在把国家建设现在的样子 真的不容易啊。外国的媒体媒介对中国负面宣传也比较多。
veryspy 4 years ago
There is no winner of this 18-year-old tragedy and dispute, please do not make it so emotional to gain sympathy any more. Wang Dan, Chai Lin, Wu'er Kai Xi, and some so-called Hongkong compatriots, you all deserve this comment, I quote, "too simple, sometimes naive"
forrestsun 4 years ago
well said Wang dang
ahlan3g 4 years ago
我是來自廣東的一名中學生。在中國，我們很少能看到這些，我很難才找到這些視頻。支聯會的人可以和我交流下嗎？
平反64。以史為鋻。
smalleyes1351 4 years ago
十八年了, 你做了大滿貫, 還是有那幾年缺席呢 ? 我也曾缺席過好幾年, 但我想, 不是要求人人都要每年出席, 但最重要的是薪火相傳. 晚會裏我看到很大部份的是老人家, 再過幾年, 或老一輩的已愈來愈少了, 希望就要寄託在年青人身上. 你會為栽培下一輩盡點人事嗎 ?
laiandgan 4 years ago