O'Reilly and Beckel go at it over Obama budget deficit

[STEPHENAXT]

You have no idea how mad we are about our government! We are at the edge, it will be time to go to the streets!! We will take it over!!

[Mrcharliebobo]

"deflect" Please!!! moron!

[Unklebillybob]

Bob, Let me break-down mr oblama's budget.

3.5 TRILLION DOLLAR LOAN. The simple interest on this loan is ~ 100 Billion dollars a Year, or 8.3 Billion Dollars a month, or 2 Billion Dollars a week, or 285 Million Dollars a day, or 11Million Dollars an hour.

Bob, where the hell is the money going to come from to pay-off ithis loan,,,or even the interest?

[whoo689]

That's the Democrat's answer for every criticism of Obama's budget- "We inherited a huge deficit already from the GOP." As if that makes the deficit any lower.

[Unklebillybob]

Let me add one thing here,,, What role did congress play in our financial mess? Actually, when did our financial mess begin? Just look at the time frame of when the dumocrats took over and when our financial problems began.

[jackiebaron]

This mess started in the 1980's and continued up to today. Just because you've experienced times of boom in that period doesn't mean that thoses times were healthy. Remember debt does NOT equate to wealth. The guy across the street might drive a BMW, dress nice and have a pretty house fully of expensives gadgets, wine, ornaments, etc. But if he owes 100000 on credit cards and is earning about 60k a year then he really is no better off than a homeless person. Just warmer and less hungry.

[Unklebillybob]

jack - Again, your research is in error.

I'll give you a little hint. The huge mess started during the late 1970's,,,, Or, to be specific, The jimmie carter administration.

Don't post. You only make yourself look ignorant, at best or stupid.

[jackiebaron]

UBB,

You're making the mistake of most angry young men in the US who are foolish enough to pick one side or the other of the "Coke or Pepsi, McDonalds or Burger King" choice that is American politics. Both administrations exacerbated this financial disaster. It was most fervently ameliorated under the Clinton Administration with the abolition of the Glass-Stegall Act, stripping accountability from financial institutions. Don't blame the Democrats and defend the GOP. Both are equally culpable.

[jackiebaron]

UBB....you're blaming the "dumocrats" (come on, stop with the childish Beavis/Butthead style jibes) and I would agree that they AND the GOP both generated this mess. But you are laying the blame squarely upon the Democratic Party whilst seemingly exonerating the Republicans. Can you explain what specifically the Democrats did to cause this mess and what measures, if any, the GOP have taken over the years to reverse Democratic Party damage to the economy?

[Unklebillybob]

jacike - Bush's biggest mistake was, He thought the dumocrats in Washington DC would work with him as the Democrats did in Texas,,,, To help the American People. He was WRONG! From the day Bush took office, the washington dumocrats were working against him. But that's not the topic.

The statement from you was, "But you are laying the blame squarely upon the Democratic Party."

Let's analyze. From the time the dumocrats took control of congress, with nancy pileosii's statement (cont)

[Unklebillybob]

(cont) "The democrats are in charge..." to harry reid's ignorant statement, "we've lost the war". This was the beginning of the horrible direction of the United States.

Now to finances. In the 2006 election the democrats took over both houses of congress. Starting as early as 2005, the democrats were propping-up Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Attempts by Republicans to question the business practices of these two companies were met with strong resistance form democrats. Specifically (cont)

[Unklebillybob]

(cont) one mr barney frank. And we have seen the major financial mess this has caused.

In 2007 the democrats successfully killed the bull market with their announcement that they would end the Bush Tax Cuts(for the rich & investors). Basically, this announcement scared Long-term investors and they pulled their money out of those investments.

Also in 2007 the democrats passed a minimum wage bill. And within 11 months the job growth came to a halt and job losses began. (cont)

[Unklebillybob]

Let's look at how the DUMOCRATS, in their limited wisdom-decided that they would, not only restrict Offshore Oil Drilling, but restrict the total number of oil refineries in the USA. What was the end result of this moronic decision? ANS- HIGHER PRICES For EVERYTHING. And more dependence on foreign oil.

Then in 2007 & 2008, being fiscally responsible (ha) the democrats didn't simply keep spending, NO NO, they increased their spending ways.

And there is lots more.

[jackiebaron]

Come on UBB, this entire fiscal meltdown was created on purpose. It wasn't anyone's "fault". It was planned. It's been engineered to shift as much wealth as possible from the working and middle classes up to the richest sector of American society who control both D & R parties. It's a scam, a heist, a theft. Bankrupting the country is the perfect pretext to gut Social Security and put all that cash into the hands of the elite and regular people will just sit there and watch.

[Unklebillybob]

Without getting into the spider's web of the interaction between:

The Fed, Big Businss, Labor, Offshore Accounts, etc, etc, etc Just suffice to say that, we still have an inexperienced junior senator Way Over His Head!

[jackiebaron]

This junior senator idiot doesn't make a SINGLE financial decision. You should know that. He doesn't decide on interest rates or tariffs or any manner of trade policy. Neither did the cretin who preceded him. Bush got a C grade in his MBA degree course. That's essentially a fail. He crashed into the ground every busines venture he touched, Harken, Arbusto, etc. Giving him the reins of an economy would be suicide. Likewise the Obama sock puppet.

[Unklebillybob]

Then he has no business being in the chair in to oval office

He needs to take his happy ass back to Chicago and keep voting "Present"

[jackiebaron]

Do you think ANY of them have any business sitting in the chair? The last time a president exercised any individuality was Eisenhower. Then the corporations took over. The next guy who tried to think for himself and pass legislation he thought might help Joe Public got a bullet in the head. The President has been a yes-man ever since.

[Unklebillybob]

I'm talking about qualifications.

Mr Obama has nearly ZERO qualifications. He's never worked. I don't count talking to people about registering to vote, working. Sitting on your ass in senate chambers voting "PRESENT" is not working.

I don't care if you liked the past 7 presidents or not. All of them had real RESUMES - oblama does not!

[jackiebaron]

I agree Bob, Obama has fuck all experience with real issues. There are thousands of more qualified people to be president. But there's the rub. One doesn't need qualifications anymore. The presidency has become a clown act. Whoever is "electable" gets (s)elected. Sarah Palin as President? You've GOT to be kidding me. GWB another idiot who made a show of himself when with other leaders. Clinton? Reagan? What real leadership skills do these idiots have and what real experience?

[Unklebillybob]

jack - For decades, I hired, & trained, people to function in my job openings. When people would apply for a position, I would have FIVE (5) piles of applications. Depending upon the position, piles would look like this:

Pile #1 For individuals with a Master's Degree

Pile # 2 For individuals with a Bachelor's Degree

Pile # 3 For individuals with Associate's Degree

Pile # 4 For individuals with a High School Diploma/GED/HSP Cert.

Pile 5, Less than HS, Would be placed in a Round File.

[Unklebillybob]

jack (cont) - After I hired someone, they had up-to 90 days to show they would be proficient at the job. If they couldn't, I gave them the opportunity to either seek another position, within the company, or resign. I didn't have time for people who thought they could bullshit their way into/through a job because they lacked knowledge, skills or experience.

Today, we have a president who has that kind of mentality. He's been in his position over a year and he's shown he can't do the job.

[jackiebaron]

UBB,

You're labouring the point and you're preaching to the choir. I agree with you that Obama has neither the skill nor the experience to be the leader of a group of girlscouts let alone a nation. I'm not defending the fucker. What I'm saying is that it doesn't MATTER if you are a university professor of a hopeless drunk anymore. The presidency is a figurehead role now. You could put a clueless yob like Obama or Bush in the WH but they themselves don't make any decisions that really matter.

[Unklebillybob]

jack - Maybe it's just venting, then. It's time the people started kicking some of these self-serving puppets & fgureheads out.

[jackiebaron]

It's very simple UBB. The money needs to be removed from American politics. Corporations are classified as "people" in the US, i.e. they have human rights. That's a fucking disgrace. Also these "campaign contributions", a euphamism for BRIBES, need to be abolished. Corporations can now influence elections in the US and they can do it LEGALLY. Until that changes you are going to have nothing but button-eyed sock puppets in office giving the charade of popular representation.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron - "sock puppets" What the fuck do you think is in DC now!!! dumbass!

[jackiebaron]

Hey bolt-head,

Shouldn't you be at the births & deaths registry office being proven wrong about Obama's birth certificate? Well? Get lost you turd.

[Mrcharliebobo]

Hey Jackoff! whats the matter Suzy, did the gerbil die?

[jackiebaron]

Ah, the genetic blip crawls out from under his rock to stun us with yet another pearl of wisdom.

[Mrcharliebobo]

lol WOW! jackoff you're too witty for me!

[DONGOE]

Step up people and have the guts to say what needs to be said.

Listen to the song by Steve Vaus - We Must Take America Back

[PoliticalStu]

what...back to the stone ages! mega lolz!

[jackiebaron]

haha!

[Mrcharliebobo]

OBAMA IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!!!!

[PoliticalStu]

no he isn't.......stop being silly!

[Mrcharliebobo]

oh really how so!!..

[PoliticalStu]

Please!! Do you really think the republicans would miss an opportunity like that to impeach obama......they would've impeached him as quick as you could say limbaugh! He's even shown his birth certificate....google it if you must. He was born in a Hawaii. Last time a checked that was in the USA. Funnily enough....Mccain was born on the panama canal, which incidentally is no longer a part of the USA.....but I wouldn't be retarded enough to say he is not American.

[Mrcharliebobo]

cases are pending and if you paid attention you would know that. and thats not a birth certificate.

what part of that dont you get. and mcain produced all his documentation obama still hasn't.

[PoliticalStu]

sure.....i wont hold my breath then. Is your main motivation for believing that he is a 'foreigner' got something to do with you not wanting a president who's black and has a unique name....does that scare you...mr klu klux man? Get over the conspiracy you nutjob......when obama finishes his term without being impeached, due to intelligibility of nationality, will you send me a letter of apology please.

peace

[Mrcharliebobo]

wow why so angry. why are you bringing up race?

[jackiebaron]

Well if what you are saying is true (however ridiculous it sounds) then he deserves to be in the White House because if he can pull off a stunt like going to school, University, Harvard, get a job as a lawyer, then a senator all while not even being allowed to reside in the country then he's some talented fraudster and is more qualified to be the Con-man in Chief than all the deceitful hucksters who went before him.

[Unklebillybob]

Let me clear-up any questions there would be about John McCain being an American Citizen. Mr McCain was born to two US Citizens(one being an officer in the US Military), on a US Military Facility, in the Panama Canal Zone.

Therefore, he is an American Citizen.

[PoliticalStu]

I never said he wasnt a US citizen. I was just pointing out that saying Obama is not a US citizen is stupid. Obama is a US citizen regardless of what his parents nationalities were.

[jackiebaron]

I understood that you had to strictly be a US citizen born on US soil. Not naturalized or born on a foreign base or embassy. I'm guessing that some kid born to two white trash grunts at Landstuhl, Germnay would be disqualified but a McCain whose daddy was a well connected admiral gets a pass.

[Unklebillybob]

jack - Don't know much about the law, do you?

I recommend you take a little time and research before you start posting!

[jackiebaron]

Calm down there, Yoda. If I was mistaken then I was mistaken. Where do you get off commenting like a cantakerous old fool?

[jackiebaron]

If Obama wasn't born in the US then he was born in some other country, right? Well birth certificates are public record. It would be quite easy to check the birth records of every other country in the world for old Obama and prove your point. But you can't because you won't find anything because you're a fool.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron - He has one in Kenya! assclown!

[jackiebaron]

How can he have a Kenyan birth certificate you fool? His father was born in Kenya, not him. Show me where you saw this Kenyan birth certificate?

[jackiebaron]

MrCharlieB,

Take your ridiculous conspiracy theories back to the nuthouse with you. You probably believe that planes knocked down the World Trade Centre and that the Earth was created in six days by a guy with a beard.

[Mrcharliebobo]

MsJackieb - Have you seen his birth certificate?...No! you haven't and why do you think that is?

As American citizens, We have every right to demand that he produce it! So why won't he, what makes him think he's above the law? Assclown!

[jackiebaron]

You're not too bright are you? Earth to Mrcharliebobo. Do you realise, moron, that Births, Marriages and Deaths are PUBLIC RECORD? You got that? public FUCKING record!!!! Obama doesn't have to dig around in his sock drawer for his birth certificate to show an IMBECILE like you....you are perfectly free to go to the BIRTHS and DEATHS Office and view it yourself you thundering idiot. It's PUBLIC RECORD. Do you have a certificate for being dropped on your head at birth? You cretin.

[Mrcharliebobo]

That's the problem, his isn't!!!! You stupid fuck!

[jackiebaron]

Have you gone to the Births and Deaths Registrar's Office and looked at the birth records for 1941?

[jackiebaron]

1961 not 1941.

[jackiebaron]

I'd also like to know a bit more about that birth certificate from Kenya that you are blabbing about. Would that be the one that showed up and had "Republic of Kenya" printed on it? The "Republic of Kenya" didn't exist in 1961. It was part of the British Crown. If you are going to forge a birth certificate to perpetuate a hoax you really ought to get certain minor details like the NAME OF THE COUNTRY right. Go back to your books about the fucking Rapture or Area 51 you conspiracy clown.

[jackiebaron]

And for your information you do NOT have the right to demand anything of anyone. You do NOT have the right to demand where someone is going, that someone produce identification, what someone's name is. You don't have ANY of those fucking rights, you clueless tit. Walk up to any guy in the street and demand to see his birth certificate. When he tells you to fuck off and slaps you in the mouth, take your case to the courts. They'll tell you to fuck off as well. "We have the right..." Please!

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron = assclown!

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron - And for your information!! stupid!! We the people have the right to see a persons B.C when that fucking person is running for the POTUS as it is a requirement that they be a natural born citizen of this country!!! and Obamageddon is not! you asshat!

[PoliticalStu]

i bet if mccain won the election you wouldn't have asked for his birth cetificate.....as a matter of fact....i've never seen his birth certificate........how come you assume he's an american.....could it just be that he is white and obama is black...mmmmm???

[jackiebaron]

How come you didn't demand to see proof of his citizenship when he stood as Democratic candidate? How come you didn't when he won the candidacy and ran for president? There wasn't a word from anyone about birth certificates until 6 months after the guy was elected. You yourself never thought to question anyone's citizenship like Romney or McCain or Hillary Clinton. Why aren't you demanding to see every single senator's BC? You jumped on this BC bandwagon like a little sheep and that's all.

[jackiebaron]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to reason with a simpleton. Mrcharliebobo, question for you. What would you do if your birth certificate was destroyed in a housefire or eaten by the dog or flushed down the toilet by accident? It's not a trick question. It's a straight, honest and simple question. Please do your best to answer rationally, logically and truthfully.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron - "out on a limb"???? LMFAO!!! Out of your damn mind, is more like it! Ya fucking silly Sally!!

How about you answer a simple question, What is a "natural born citizen" as it pertains to the POTUS in our Constitution?

[jackiebaron]

I asked you a question MCB. A VERY SIMPLE question and you are trying to deflect from it. The question of a natural-born citizen has nothing to do with me asking you what you would do if your birth certificate was lost, destroyed or stolen. Why can't you answer that question instead of evading it?

[Mrcharliebobo]

@jackiebaron - I would go get a new one. Now why can't Obamageddon do the same???? you dolt

[jackiebaron]

The reason I asked the question IS that YOU can go and examine anyone's birth certificate...while you are the offices getting a new one. So instead of demanding Obama showing you his birth certificate, why not just go and get his cert yourself.....it is public record and you're entitled to view it.

[PoliticalStu]

no he doesnt.....i love how you so easily accept that he has a birth certificate from kenya, but you wont believe a birth certificate in america..... weird, seems like you'd made up your mind about obama not being an american before you saw any evidence......wonder why that is? oh right, it's cos he has a foreign name and he's black.