@wildwood1909 that's your opinion, Ali lost by fraiser FACT, if he lost by fraiser wich isn't that good then I think Tyson would have destroyed him, Tyson had enough power to end it in the first round FACT, shavers sucks dude, Ali has chin but that don't mean he could take all those punches coming from iron mike,so he would definitely have stunned him in the first round, ali wont even know where tysons hits are coming from your wrong tyson is faster and more powerfull you idiot just watch his k
THAT BEING SAID ALI WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE TYSON FAST POWERFULL PUNCHES , BY THE WAY TYSON HIT WAY HARDER THE SNOKING JOE AND WAS ALSO WAY FASTER SO ALI WANT EVEN KNOW WHERE TYSON'S PUNCHES ARE COMING FROM . SO FUCK ALL YOU DUMB IDIOTS WHO THINK ALI WOULD EVEN TAKE MIKE TO THE 10TH ROUND , DUDE STOP BULLSHITTING, SO FUCK U GUYS AND YOUR THOUGHTS
@gunner626lp Tyson fought no one! fact. he got KO,d by a fat nobody Buster Douglas. Both Forman and Ernie Shavers were harder punchers than tyson. Shavers said to be the biggest puncher in heavy weight history. Ali was FAST!!! Faster than tyson. he would have never let the little bulldog get near him!
FOR ALL YOU FUCKING MORANS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING MIKE TYSON WOULD DESTROY ALI IN HIS PRIME, YEA ALI HAS A GOOD CHIN BUT TYSON PUTS ALL HIS WEIGHT IN HIS PUNCHES THAT'S WHY HE HAS A LOT OF 1PUNCH KNOCKOUTS
Nah Tyson was the better as far as raw power is concerned. In his prime he was a knockout beast.
Ali however was a genius inside the ring, the way how he won against Foreman is a genius display of a strategy. Foreman was physically stronger, but Ali wore him down with his stamina and strategy. Tyson could NEVER do this because he has not the brains for that.
@shevegen I don't agree with you one bit! Tyson has stamina AND strength AND power , he was a machine. do you really think Ali could last in the ring with Tyson ? Ali fights like a girl , his punches are like flicks of a hand. One punch from Tyson and he'd be flyin to the ropes! And look at Ali's stance, it could never compete with tyson's solid legs planted on the ground. Against Frazier Ali uses a lot of low punches like upper cuts, I believe Tyson would duck underneath those punches ,and POW
AND YOU ALL SAYS MIKE TYSON CAN BEAT ALI? YEA I KNOW HE PUNCH VERY HARD. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN HE CAN BEAT HIM. LOOK WHAT ALI DID TO JOE FRAZIER HE WILL DO THE SAME LIKE TO TYSON
@KINGNICOLA1 You make me laugh you come here saying he can beat both and only add he is 'very strong' get the fuck outta here if you wan't to be a smartass that's okay but be smart and so stupid Strength is nothing look at Frazier beast bam lost 2 times of Ali speed he has I don't know what that the hell you're talking about but I think if Tyson would be standing infront of these 2 he would be down.
just judging from this fight, there is no way on God's green earth that Ali would beat Tyson. Just no fucking way. If you disagree with me, then you don't know boxing.
After 5 rds i have Ali winning 4rds-1. Ali's movement seems to be making it hard for Joe to set his feet and get his punches off. Ali is staying off the ropes as well.
You realize you are taking on almost everyone here because you disagree with them. I don't see Frazier hitting below the belt. Ali clinched like crazy because he was scared of Joe. That's why he's running the whole fight. Show me another great fighter who spent so much time backing away, clinching and pushing his opponents head down. Did Lewis, Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield, Norton, etc. engage in these tactics. No.
@dropway9 u say Ali held Joe cuz he was scared of him, Uh no.1 reason Ali is consider one of the greatest if not the greatest fghtr of alltime is cuz he never ducked a fighter. U mentioned other great fighter that never held their opps. Well that has alot to do with a fghtrs style. Most or all the guys you named were brawlers.Ali was a pure boxer, hit and dont get hit. All great boxer used the clinch for either defensive purposes, slow down constant pressure,or wer disadvntage fightn in close
@dropway9 In all 3 fights, the refs let Ali and Frazier fight, Joe always hit below the belt, no foul, and Ali clinched and tied up, no foul, why cry about it? Ali and Frazier didn't? None of the refs did, so why are you making it sound like Ali did something to be penalized for? Clinching is part of fighting, it happens in almost every fight at some point; I show you Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, & Holyfield do it, on top of elbows, pushing, headbutting and biting. Criticize them.
@MrPerryrice Clinching is part of boxing, agreed. Pulling down on your opponents head is illegal in boxing. Ali did it constantly, esp against Frazier. He should have been warned in 1st round and then penalized. Frazier for his part should have fought dirtier to even it up. Perez let them fight. Ali took advantage, have to give him credit.
Ali was never a dirty fighter. He often used the clinch to break the opponents rythmn + to rest. Most fighters do. Many of those other champions you named resorted to fouling to gain an advantage. Dempsey+ Marciano were dirty fighters especially Marciano who often hit opponents low, behind the head, hit whilst the man was down, they often elbowed+ headbutted. Holyfield often used his head+ occasionally thumb to hurt opponents + as for Tyson? Well we know what he was capable of...
m i starting to see ali huggs 2 damm much wen hes getting unloaded on... like in evry other fights that i seen ... is that 1 of the rreasons he won all them fights?
Bodini was the angel on ali's shoulder , ali never listened to anything apart from bodini , always heard him and always knew he was his best friend ,'angel " . bodini pulled ali through so many fights and although ali said he listened to alahh and muslim , blah blah .. the real god was bodini ! ali was struggling after his lay off and bodini told him " body, up champ" hit the body and work up .. ali won that fight through this , he asked him how did u know ? cause ur a superhuman champ . :D
This is how the FIRST fight should have and could have went if Ali was actually in shape for it and not clowning around. Here, you can tell he prepared his ass off just from the fact that his build is noticeably more muscular and lean and he was able to stay on his toes and dance almost the entire fight. Even a past-his-prime Ali who was in shape could make Joe look like a amateur. Imagine what it would have been like if Ali had never been exiled. Frazier would have had zero chance.
Wow, this fight is a total bore, if you want to see a real fight watch the first one. Amazing how far both fighters declined in the intervening years between the first fight and this one. Joe seemingly has nothing in this fight. Both great warriors in their prime though.
What's the over-under line on Ali holding Frazier behind his neck in this fight? I'd say it's about 100 times. How many times was he deducted points for this pathetically weak tactic? How can you call a fighter the greatest of all time when his defense against tough competition is to mug, hold, hug and smother his opponent. He was truly great at that tactic -definitely the g.o.a.t. at that illegal tactic.
Truly great fighters don't need to nor do they aspire to this activity. Ali was weak.
@dropway9 Stop whinning; Ali's great because of the RESULTS. Plus, Frazier as a fighter should not have been stopped by the tactic, and remedied the tactic with something of his own- like scoring more when Ali wasn't grabbing him- or something. Another thing, do you count how many times Frazier hits low by banging Ali on his hips, below the belt all night trying to slow him down? Frazier plied that tactic in the first fight too, and the ref did nothing. Does Ali complain? No, he just fought.
@aitraining and what exactly have you done in boxing? rofl thats correct youve done NOTHING. sit in your chair and continue being an armchair boxer, what a waste of a life you must be.
@vannacut27 I have to b a pro boxer to have an opinion? You guys grew up to this Ali Kool Aid. He had a big mouth, just got by the good fighters of the 70's, a muslim anti american and shud have lost even more (Norton got robbed) and was shot by 38. Toss out the Foreman win and Big George was the best hvwt of the 70's.....and the 90's. Look it up!
@aitraining haha. ur pathetic. if u actually bother to check ali`s record out and what he did and what he stood for u would not say those things! ali is the most influential athelet of all time. he made changes in this world that ur people would never dream of doing. and by your people i mean fat pigs who sits in front of their pc and tries to insult a legend. People like u make me sick. this man changed the world and u should feel honourd to call urself a human like ali was. Have a good day! :)
@dragonfurp I know right? This aitraining dude does not know that Ali has the best heavyweight resume of all time. Maybe he needs to do some research I guess.
@aitraining How is George Foreman the best heavyweight of the 70's when he had less fights, lost his title in less than 3 years, got knocked out by Ali and then Jimmy Young who retired him? Ali fought more, has more victories, and won the title TWICE IN THE 1970's (75 and 78), was champ for more years than George, retired as the champ with the title (I think in 1979 or 1980). Ali beat every big heavyweight contender in the 1970s including George, while George couldn't beat 2 of them. Look it UP!
@aitraining PLUS Ali NEVER got knocked out, George was knocked out twice-in the 70s.
Plus George wasn't the best heavyweight of the 1990's either. Holifield was, and he proved it by beating not only Big George, but Tyson too. So how is George the best of the 1990s? Clearly you are just an uninformed hater of Ali, nothing more. Hate of the man's religious and political stances has handicaped your judgement of his fighting career, and the sport of boxing. Ali, Holifield, & Lewis proved whose best.
@MrPerryrice even tho muhammad ali is the best george foreman was right after him.and foreman beat moorer same dude who beat holyfield so watch ya mouth about foreman
@TheRealness180 Hey, listen you! You're lucky you have the good sense to recognize Ali, or else I'd get all over you about George being the best in the 90s (Lennox's and Holyfield's resumes surpasses George's in the 90s. Holy even beat George.) but I won't get into it because I cannot battle anyone insightful and honest enough to recognize Ali as the best...Unless I'm forced to. Don't push it buddy. I'm just now seeing this comment of yours. Let's not get on bad terms.
@aitraining You must be insane with hate. How is Ali overated when he dominated two generations of heavyweights, the 60's and 70's and beat every single one of them, winning the title three times along the way?
Dude, get a grip! He beat ALL OF THEM. He was the best of the sixties, and the best of the 70s. Name another heavyweight to do that. You are CRAZED! RABID! or just plain the stupidest person to ever comment on this site. STFU!
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He didn't pull down on the head his whole career!!!!!!! He simply beat sonnly liston without doin tht he beat cleveland williams and even henry cooper without doin that!!!!!!!! He is the greatest and if he holds behind the neck you all besta start doin that cuz if he's the champ then u guys follow behind what he does cuz he is the greatest of all time!!!!!
@aitraining Ali got away with a 'Ton' of shit, you say? I challenge you - like what? Name the ton of shit you're whinning about. Seems people can't accomplish a thing in life without a bunch of haters hating them for it. Ali is and earned his title as the greatest heavyweight; be a man, just suck it up and go on with your life. LOL.
@aitraining Have you no notion why Ali was stripped unjustly of his title in the 60s and the political, legal, and even the general white public did nothing to stop or correct it until the 1970s? Because they Hated Ali and was opposed to him, villified and crucified him for his religious and political beliefs pertaining to the Viet Nam War, and most promiment among them was the...yeay, that's right, the US MEDIA! Listen to Howard Cosell on the dispicable role of the media in persecuting Ali.
Too bad they didn't edit the O.J. Simpson parts out and put some stuff like Ali and the toy gorilla that made Frasier so mad in it's place! That shit was too funny and the fact that it totally pissed dumbass Frasier off just made it all that much funnier... to me anyway! My... Didn't Mr. Simpson add a lot to the quality of our lives with all of his worthwhile contributions to society! Nothing like going to jail with $50K bail because the wife SAID you hit her with her own fist... Thanks, O.J...
The ref saved Frazier from being knocked out by Ali in the 2nd round. Frazier never backed off in a fight, the fact he backed off was because he was really hurt by that Ali right. Its funny how Joe said he had a more effective punch when it was him who staggered a couple of times during this fight. I had this fight 9-3 Ali. I think 2 judges had it the same way.
Wow Ali sure can hold and hold and hold and hold. Boring fighter with illegal tactics and a mouth that wowed the refs and pundits from criticizing a way overrated fighter who simply cheated or was gifted his way to many victories.
Isn't it illegal for Ali to be holding the back of Frazier's head & pulling him around the ring by it ?? I believe it is. Why doesn't he get warned for it ?
i mean look at 2.55, what the hell is that. thats the wussiest couple of punches ever. actually no, thats how boxing was in the 70's people werent as big and boxers werent as strong or good. thats is why today we dont really have a dominating boxer besides mike tysons era. everyone is strong and good. ali at his best wouldnt stand a chance against boxers today,
@whatrugonnadocrazy thats got to be one of the dumbest things ive ever read and I see a lot on youtube,your theory is backwards. So let me get this straight your pretty much saying that no name fighters of today could beat the Ali's, Joe Louis's, Rocky Marciano's of yesterday because their stronger. Well if you knew anything about boxing you would know its more than just about power, its about mental, speed, footwork, technique, heart, etc. Ali would run circles around todays strongest boxer.
@jackfrost365i dont think no name boxers could win against ali. I just think the best from the last 30 years or so, mainly mike tyson, hollyfield, buster douglas. guys at that calibre may just have too much power. yea of course speed, footwork, heart stamina comes into play. but dont forget most of the good boxers have all that and also have much more power. so I basically what im saying is that ali can only go so far, if he keeps getting hit from guys like mike tyson, hes going down. whatuthink
@whatrugonnadocrazy Id say Ali fought very powerful dudes throughout his career, It wasnt a problem for him to face stronger guys like Frazier and Sonny Liston, his greatest skill was that he took the strong and apparently invincible boxers apart, disabled them. Ali from the 60ies could in my opinion beat anyone, no man could face that diversity and skill, not anytime, not anywhere. I mean look at the guy, he makes current champions look like lost souls, thats never been done since. Ali Bomaye
@whatrugonnadocrazy I think Ali already fought the tyson's of his time i.e. Forman, Shavers. Power is great but speed kills,power fighers tend to become dependent on it like a drug, which is why guys like Ali fustrated and tired them out with counters and quick movement.
@jackfrost365i dont want to take anything away from ali, he was one of the best, no doubt. but tell me if im wrong. guys like forman and fraizer or shaver had power but they didnt have it all except stamina. Mike Tyson had it all except great stamina and heart. He was really agile considering the amount of power he had. Forman and etc. wasnt even close to as quick as mike, they were only power. so yea Ali was able to dismantle them since his style contradicts their styles. but not mike.
@whatrugonnadocrazy Why is everyone mentioning Mike Tyson. You should be mentioning Evander Holyfield. He beat Mike twice. Evander EXPOSED Mike. Fight him back. He quits. Mike is a bum!
@whatrugonnadocrazy There's just three little problems with your logic here - let me name them: 1) Buster Douglass whipped Mike; 2) Holyfield whipped Mike repeatedly; and Lennox Lewis Bitched him. Get my point? Mike was a flawed fighter who got owned by his own generation of heavyweights, and not just the great ones like Holyfield and Lewis- the fool got KNOCKED OUT by Buster Douglass! Ali would have done it to.
@jackfrost365 this is what i came down to. if both Tyson and Ali were able to utilize their styles the best they can, without any mistakes. Ali probably has an advantage. due to his reach, height and his style of fighting. but the if Ali makes small mistakes and allows mike to get close, they Tyson could get a couple of good hits and knock him down.
@whatrugonnadocrazy thats true but besides Ali's great speed and agility he had a damn good chin. As many power fighters that he fought you did'nt see him on his back much. Another aspect to consider is Ali's ability to enter his opponets head while also adjusting to their style giving him the edge on Tyson. Tyson was however the last great heavyweight champ.
@whatrugonnadocrazy Ali go down from a coupla good hits by mike Tyson? Are you crazy? Witness the first and last Frazier fights- Ali got hit with left hooks that would have bought down buildings! and the only one that bought him down happened in the 15th round of the first fight when he was complely spent- Tyson would not have made it to the 15th round with ALI, so he wouln't be able to repeat Fraziers one time feat, because Tyson is no Frazier, he wouldn't be able to stand up to Ali that long.
@MrPerryrice Ali is a Prick, pity he never met like Tyson in the ring. He would dance like a butterfly & get squashed like a Fly XD First hit would make him piss his pants. Second make him piss blood. There is no doubt that Ali is built like a tooth-pic in comparison. He's got speed, but never met Speed AND Power like Tyson. Cant even compare. Tyson is far more Developed Physically then any of these men & his athletic ability is no doubt superior.
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD YouTyson sycophants! You're the most delirious, deluded, and dishonest commentators I've ever seen on any subject. You've seen bunches of people Mike could'nt knock out, that took him the distance, but you say ALI couldn't go the distance too, when lesser fighters than he could? NUTS! And you've seen Tyson's ass whipped, owned, knocked out repeatedly by lesser fighters than ALI, yet you say Ali couldn't do it? Reserve your comments for a psychiatrist! Reality fails you.
@MrPerryrice No, your just a dumb fucker who watches too much t.v, then talks a load shit, but has never 'competed' in any level of 'professorial Sport' beyond shagging your yourself, - [which you could conciser a 'profession' by now cause its clear your got your dick in your mouth] The fact is any man who knows, ''a dick from a pussy'' will tell you you got a pussy [jk] -no seriously, LOL!! Fact is, you cant compare these two men, the one is far superior athlete [Tyson] to the other.
@MrPerryrice Just stating a few facts. In my 'logical opinion' you cant compere these two men, both are unique & amazing athletes.They are 2 completely different men, grew up in [literally] two different 'eras' & came from 2 different backgrounds. They are 'unique' athletes in every way. Ali i would compare to 'The Beatles', Tyson - ''The Rolling stones' .Who's better all depends on what you drinking;D ,but when all shit is said & done, -they are both 1st class fighters & world calls Athletes!!
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD Hey, seriously, though; it should not go unnoticed that no expert in the boxing world considers or regards Tyson after all his ass whippings by people he COULDN'T OVERPOWER, anywhere near "THE BEST". Only rank ametuers (did I spell that right LOL), the insane, the stupid, the ignorant, the haters and the Tyson sycophants spew such groundless babble. Where are the authorities in boxing, the experts who rank tyson best? Dumbass fanatic fans don't count.
@MrPerryrice Well, you can only look at which fighter/Athlete 'stood his ground' & 'erased the competition' against the fighters and/or athletes of his/her time/era. Im not informed on these guys to make a comment like that, but for example, you cant compare 'Kelly Slater' to 'Jerry Lopez'. Both where are amazing Surfers / Athletes. I can only look at which surfer/Athlete 'stood his ground' & 'erased the competition'. Even then there are still great surfers / fighters who don't even compete.
@whatrugonnadocrazy Sonny Liston would've broke Mike Tyson in half. George Foreman made a comeback to fight Mike Tyson. Tyson and King said "Hell No". As for Ali and Tyson, please. Ali would smack that boy all around the ring. (See Tyson vs. Douglas)
@bangitslo what do you mean see tyson and douglas, mike was barely in any shape to fight even. he was partying, he wasn't really training and he was probably on drugs. Ali was most likely always focused. just look at them punch a punching bag, Mike's punches even 'Look' like they can rip a whole through someone. Ali is more a smack or a snap punch. sure there both good, but i don't know if ali could withstand Mike's shots. Fighters weren't as strong back then.
@whatrugonnadocrazy Please witness the Ali fights from the prime 60s years, and you'll see that Mike Tyson wouln't even be able to FIND Ali to apply any power against him; and old 70s Ali, the old one even with ringrust and diminished skills, would have found a way to OUTSMART him- witness Frazier, Forman, Norton, Shavers, Quarry, etc. etc. Tyson? Ha ha ha! couldn't even beat the best of his own generation, witness Douglass, Holyfield, Lewis who OWNED him, so there's no way Ali couldn't do it.
ali was only good in his time, today he would get destroyed even in his prime. mike tyson could honestly destroy both of these fighters no problem. mike was faster, stronger, and had a way better punch than any of these guys. cmom people ali doesnt look so hot in his fights. i dont get why he considered the best, just cause he has a good record, doesnt mean hes the best.
@whatrugonnadocrazy No, he's considered the best for one reason, and one reason alone; he found a way to KEEP FROM GETTING KNOCKED OUT by power punchers his whole career, while whipping every one of them he faced for 2, not 1, but for 2 generations (60s and 70s (80s don't count))and winning 3 titles along the way. Mike the hardest punching heavyweight? No sir, Ring magizine ranks mike something like 19th, with Liston, Foreman and Shavers all in the top 10. Look it up.Ring Mags Heaviest punchers.
@MrPerryrice i just looked it up. its seems according to that list, mike tyson is 16th. George foreman is 10 th and frazier is like 39. Also Ali is not even on the list. so i guess what i initially stated still hold up. fine george foreman is 10 and Mike is 16, it doesn't matter because mike has a lot more than a super hard punch. he's agile, he's quick, he's strong, and he's fierce. I bet he would destroy George, fraizer, and probably ali too. mike was as dedicated as ali, forget it.
@MrPerryrice not to forget to mention, mike was the youngest champion ever. i think if mike kept focused, i don't think anyone in his era could beat him. maybe one or two guys when he had a bad day but if he kept his focus in the zone, forget it, no way
Uhh- hold & clinch, much?! Perez let Ali get away w/ tht shit whole fight. Read article in Ring Mgzne about how tht ws Ali's strgy going in, cuz' Dundee & Ali knew how much pnshmnt he took from lft hooks & body shots in 71. Esp fucked up ws how Perez allowd Ali 2 clench gluv arnd Joe's nck all nite, esp wen Joe got in close. Fawt like pussy Mayweather in this one, unlike 1 & 3, which were classics. I dismiss 2 as a farce.
@3244gorilla Excuse the late comment, I just noticed your whine of a loser comment.Never excuse a fighter for being unable to figure out & conquor his opponent. The stuff is inexcusable. Frazier just couldn't figure out how to whip Ali's ass in their last two fights. Whatever Ali did, Frazier should have overcome it. I think a power puncher who cannot catch his opponent with enough power punches to win, should rightfully lose points. If he gets tied up and can't think or punch his way out- TOUGH
@wildwood1909 that's your opinion, Ali lost by fraiser FACT, if he lost by fraiser wich isn't that good then I think Tyson would have destroyed him, Tyson had enough power to end it in the first round FACT, shavers sucks dude, Ali has chin but that don't mean he could take all those punches coming from iron mike,so he would definitely have stunned him in the first round, ali wont even know where tysons hits are coming from your wrong tyson is faster and more powerfull you idiot just watch his k
gunner626lp 1 day ago
thats what i call commentary
0ptimusbibIe 2 days ago
3:25
Oj xD
sethbennett15 1 week ago
THAT BEING SAID ALI WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE TYSON FAST POWERFULL PUNCHES , BY THE WAY TYSON HIT WAY HARDER THE SNOKING JOE AND WAS ALSO WAY FASTER SO ALI WANT EVEN KNOW WHERE TYSON'S PUNCHES ARE COMING FROM . SO FUCK ALL YOU DUMB IDIOTS WHO THINK ALI WOULD EVEN TAKE MIKE TO THE 10TH ROUND , DUDE STOP BULLSHITTING, SO FUCK U GUYS AND YOUR THOUGHTS
gunner626lp 1 week ago
@gunner626lp Tyson fought no one! fact. he got KO,d by a fat nobody Buster Douglas. Both Forman and Ernie Shavers were harder punchers than tyson. Shavers said to be the biggest puncher in heavy weight history. Ali was FAST!!! Faster than tyson. he would have never let the little bulldog get near him!
wildwood1909 2 days ago
FOR ALL YOU FUCKING MORANS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING MIKE TYSON WOULD DESTROY ALI IN HIS PRIME, YEA ALI HAS A GOOD CHIN BUT TYSON PUTS ALL HIS WEIGHT IN HIS PUNCHES THAT'S WHY HE HAS A LOT OF 1PUNCH KNOCKOUTS
gunner626lp 1 week ago
@gunner626lp You lost me at 'moran', dumbass
MrNasty911 1 week ago
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@gunner626lp You lost me at 'moran', dumbass
MrNasty911 1 week ago
LMAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO OJ!!!!!!!
SuperBiggyZ 1 week ago
LOOOOL OJ simpson??
laithb 2 weeks ago
the coach : "samsuaduadasdsadsafksfkhfdsalfk"
beginotomf 1 month ago
This announcer is fucking annoying.
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did anyone else see the headbutt at 9:28?
KidDBlunTed 1 month ago
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KidDBlunTed 1 month ago
before o.j. killed his wife lol
danelmcamis93 1 month ago
@danelmcamis93 also, before he auditioned for the part in The Terminator 1!
smellokitty 1 month ago
OJ keep yo dam head still!
Rodsupremos 2 months ago
Oj was stoned
Hanijal28 2 months ago
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jtdelahoz 3 months ago
OJ what the fuck??!
gabeoi 3 months ago
lmao OJ Simpson
quickchaos2009 3 months ago
OJ!!! How the mighty have fallen. How the hell did he go from this head shaking fag look alike to armed robbery??
007ynk 3 months ago
LMFAO!!Why was OJ shaking like that?!!
moneudown 3 months ago 2
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marinomandf 3 months ago
Joe Frazier ............RIP
noeavila77 3 months ago
O.J !!!!!! hahahahah
peterseinfeld 3 months ago
...a star fall...a legend birth...RIP BIG SMOKIN' JOE
TheThugDestiny 3 months ago
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Eadub13 3 months ago
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YennySofia88 3 months ago
RIP Joe Frazier
alahbbai 3 months ago 3
Is that host is THE OJ Simpson that had a case?
almarjyou 3 months ago
OJ SIMPSON LOOKIN DAPPER WIT THAT AFRO
PhoneLad 3 months ago
God bless smokin Joe
R.I.P
Palestine
NimerFoundation 3 months ago
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I'm so very sorry of his passing, he was one of the best. I thank him for what he has meant to sports and his ethics...Thanks Joe...:)....Bless you
favre16 3 months ago
RIP ;( Joe Frazier
souasazzz 3 months ago
Smooth as anything OJ!!!
knotty1701 3 months ago
Nah Tyson was the better as far as raw power is concerned. In his prime he was a knockout beast.
Ali however was a genius inside the ring, the way how he won against Foreman is a genius display of a strategy. Foreman was physically stronger, but Ali wore him down with his stamina and strategy. Tyson could NEVER do this because he has not the brains for that.
shevegen 3 months ago
@shevegen I don't agree with you one bit! Tyson has stamina AND strength AND power , he was a machine. do you really think Ali could last in the ring with Tyson ? Ali fights like a girl , his punches are like flicks of a hand. One punch from Tyson and he'd be flyin to the ropes! And look at Ali's stance, it could never compete with tyson's solid legs planted on the ground. Against Frazier Ali uses a lot of low punches like upper cuts, I believe Tyson would duck underneath those punches ,and POW
aquariacic 3 months ago
Thank you
zottelmischel 3 months ago
AND YOU ALL SAYS MIKE TYSON CAN BEAT ALI? YEA I KNOW HE PUNCH VERY HARD. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN HE CAN BEAT HIM. LOOK WHAT ALI DID TO JOE FRAZIER HE WILL DO THE SAME LIKE TO TYSON
monzilla22 3 months ago
fuck you all mike tyson comment. rocky marciano can beat mike tyson. even if tyson is strong but rocky has a strong heart
monzilla22 3 months ago
OJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lanixpop 3 months ago 34
Tyson was better
KINGNICOLA1 4 months ago
@KINGNICOLA1 There is no "better" styles make fights. Tyson had a good style for beating and Frazier and a bad style for trying to beat Ali.
The problem is Tyson never fought anyone worth mentioning in their prime so we really don't have any idea how good he was.
periechontology 4 months ago
@periechontology Ithinkthe best Mike Tyson was very strong he can beat both man
KINGNICOLA1 4 months ago
@KINGNICOLA1 You make me laugh you come here saying he can beat both and only add he is 'very strong' get the fuck outta here if you wan't to be a smartass that's okay but be smart and so stupid Strength is nothing look at Frazier beast bam lost 2 times of Ali speed he has I don't know what that the hell you're talking about but I think if Tyson would be standing infront of these 2 he would be down.
MaleBosszz 4 months ago
just judging from this fight, there is no way on God's green earth that Ali would beat Tyson. Just no fucking way. If you disagree with me, then you don't know boxing.
mdigitalman 4 months ago
@mdigitalman this green earth aint gods
nevermoonawolf 4 months ago
@mdigitalman
It's funny when Tyson nuthuggers, who almost always know virtually nothing about Boxing, talk about knowing Boxing.
periechontology 4 months ago
WHERES FRANK LUCAS???
guapoThe770 4 months ago
ali best in hugging of all time
muchikalang 4 months ago 2
After 5 rds i have Ali winning 4rds-1. Ali's movement seems to be making it hard for Joe to set his feet and get his punches off. Ali is staying off the ropes as well.
MrScarface6055 4 months ago in playlist Ali vs Frazier II (1/28/74)
@MrPerrvice
You realize you are taking on almost everyone here because you disagree with them. I don't see Frazier hitting below the belt. Ali clinched like crazy because he was scared of Joe. That's why he's running the whole fight. Show me another great fighter who spent so much time backing away, clinching and pushing his opponents head down. Did Lewis, Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield, Norton, etc. engage in these tactics. No.
dropway9 4 months ago
@dropway9 u say Ali held Joe cuz he was scared of him, Uh no.1 reason Ali is consider one of the greatest if not the greatest fghtr of alltime is cuz he never ducked a fighter. U mentioned other great fighter that never held their opps. Well that has alot to do with a fghtrs style. Most or all the guys you named were brawlers.Ali was a pure boxer, hit and dont get hit. All great boxer used the clinch for either defensive purposes, slow down constant pressure,or wer disadvntage fightn in close
MrScarface6055 4 months ago in playlist Ali vs Frazier II (1/28/74)
@MrScarface6055 yea but a great fightter doesnt hugg all the time or trough out the whole fight or in his case fights like in george forman
Rimious 4 months ago
@dropway9 In all 3 fights, the refs let Ali and Frazier fight, Joe always hit below the belt, no foul, and Ali clinched and tied up, no foul, why cry about it? Ali and Frazier didn't? None of the refs did, so why are you making it sound like Ali did something to be penalized for? Clinching is part of fighting, it happens in almost every fight at some point; I show you Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, & Holyfield do it, on top of elbows, pushing, headbutting and biting. Criticize them.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Clinching is part of boxing, agreed. Pulling down on your opponents head is illegal in boxing. Ali did it constantly, esp against Frazier. He should have been warned in 1st round and then penalized. Frazier for his part should have fought dirtier to even it up. Perez let them fight. Ali took advantage, have to give him credit.
1saxonwolf 4 months ago
@1saxonwolf You are almost 100 % right about everything! Enough for me to say, AGREED.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@dropway9
Ali was never a dirty fighter. He often used the clinch to break the opponents rythmn + to rest. Most fighters do. Many of those other champions you named resorted to fouling to gain an advantage. Dempsey+ Marciano were dirty fighters especially Marciano who often hit opponents low, behind the head, hit whilst the man was down, they often elbowed+ headbutted. Holyfield often used his head+ occasionally thumb to hurt opponents + as for Tyson? Well we know what he was capable of...
070911021302 3 months ago 2
Is OJ still looking for the real killers?
dropway9 4 months ago
m i starting to see ali huggs 2 damm much wen hes getting unloaded on... like in evry other fights that i seen ... is that 1 of the rreasons he won all them fights?
Rimious 4 months ago
Bodini was the angel on ali's shoulder , ali never listened to anything apart from bodini , always heard him and always knew he was his best friend ,'angel " . bodini pulled ali through so many fights and although ali said he listened to alahh and muslim , blah blah .. the real god was bodini ! ali was struggling after his lay off and bodini told him " body, up champ" hit the body and work up .. ali won that fight through this , he asked him how did u know ? cause ur a superhuman champ . :D
calbo555 5 months ago
how groovy does OJ look
BvWGaragepoort 5 months ago
This is how the FIRST fight should have and could have went if Ali was actually in shape for it and not clowning around. Here, you can tell he prepared his ass off just from the fact that his build is noticeably more muscular and lean and he was able to stay on his toes and dance almost the entire fight. Even a past-his-prime Ali who was in shape could make Joe look like a amateur. Imagine what it would have been like if Ali had never been exiled. Frazier would have had zero chance.
LedWhisky69 5 months ago
Wow, this fight is a total bore, if you want to see a real fight watch the first one. Amazing how far both fighters declined in the intervening years between the first fight and this one. Joe seemingly has nothing in this fight. Both great warriors in their prime though.
2vintage68 5 months ago
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
GrImM2x 6 months ago
WHAT A LEFT HOOK OMG OMG OMG LOL
djsimo149 6 months ago
float like butterfly champ.
whata corner
TurnWhiteProductions 6 months ago
its incredible that a man this big could be so light on his feet,or that a man this small could have such crushing power...
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
lmaooo ali would outplay tyson anyday
khsdaniel 6 months ago
@statixify Great comment; teach, teach!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
What's the over-under line on Ali holding Frazier behind his neck in this fight? I'd say it's about 100 times. How many times was he deducted points for this pathetically weak tactic? How can you call a fighter the greatest of all time when his defense against tough competition is to mug, hold, hug and smother his opponent. He was truly great at that tactic -definitely the g.o.a.t. at that illegal tactic.
Truly great fighters don't need to nor do they aspire to this activity. Ali was weak.
dropway9 6 months ago
@dropway9 Stop whinning; Ali's great because of the RESULTS. Plus, Frazier as a fighter should not have been stopped by the tactic, and remedied the tactic with something of his own- like scoring more when Ali wasn't grabbing him- or something. Another thing, do you count how many times Frazier hits low by banging Ali on his hips, below the belt all night trying to slow him down? Frazier plied that tactic in the first fight too, and the ref did nothing. Does Ali complain? No, he just fought.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
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smackatan0 7 months ago
is! He is still a human!
dragonfurp 7 months ago
What the hell is O.J doing with his head?
Back7sword 7 months ago
lol o J
dontt089 7 months ago
run! get yo women outta here!
hjenkinz 7 months ago
killer oj 1 / 0
HebusxJebus 8 months ago
Ali is the most overrated boxer in history..... He barely got by the great fighters of the decade, was a lot of mouth and frankly......anti american.
aitraining 8 months ago
@aitraining screw you
SamBam2015 8 months ago
@aitraining and what exactly have you done in boxing? rofl thats correct youve done NOTHING. sit in your chair and continue being an armchair boxer, what a waste of a life you must be.
vannacut27 8 months ago
@vannacut27 I have to b a pro boxer to have an opinion? You guys grew up to this Ali Kool Aid. He had a big mouth, just got by the good fighters of the 70's, a muslim anti american and shud have lost even more (Norton got robbed) and was shot by 38. Toss out the Foreman win and Big George was the best hvwt of the 70's.....and the 90's. Look it up!
aitraining 8 months ago
@aitraining haha. ur pathetic. if u actually bother to check ali`s record out and what he did and what he stood for u would not say those things! ali is the most influential athelet of all time. he made changes in this world that ur people would never dream of doing. and by your people i mean fat pigs who sits in front of their pc and tries to insult a legend. People like u make me sick. this man changed the world and u should feel honourd to call urself a human like ali was. Have a good day! :)
dragonfurp 7 months ago
@dragonfurp I know right? This aitraining dude does not know that Ali has the best heavyweight resume of all time. Maybe he needs to do some research I guess.
vladiator100 7 months ago
@aitraining How is George Foreman the best heavyweight of the 70's when he had less fights, lost his title in less than 3 years, got knocked out by Ali and then Jimmy Young who retired him? Ali fought more, has more victories, and won the title TWICE IN THE 1970's (75 and 78), was champ for more years than George, retired as the champ with the title (I think in 1979 or 1980). Ali beat every big heavyweight contender in the 1970s including George, while George couldn't beat 2 of them. Look it UP!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@aitraining PLUS Ali NEVER got knocked out, George was knocked out twice-in the 70s.
Plus George wasn't the best heavyweight of the 1990's either. Holifield was, and he proved it by beating not only Big George, but Tyson too. So how is George the best of the 1990s? Clearly you are just an uninformed hater of Ali, nothing more. Hate of the man's religious and political stances has handicaped your judgement of his fighting career, and the sport of boxing. Ali, Holifield, & Lewis proved whose best.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice even tho muhammad ali is the best george foreman was right after him.and foreman beat moorer same dude who beat holyfield so watch ya mouth about foreman
TheRealness180 6 months ago
@TheRealness180 Hey, listen you! You're lucky you have the good sense to recognize Ali, or else I'd get all over you about George being the best in the 90s (Lennox's and Holyfield's resumes surpasses George's in the 90s. Holy even beat George.) but I won't get into it because I cannot battle anyone insightful and honest enough to recognize Ali as the best...Unless I'm forced to. Don't push it buddy. I'm just now seeing this comment of yours. Let's not get on bad terms.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@vannacut27 what a weak comeback. shut the fuck up.
Umair166 8 months ago
@aitraining You must be insane with hate. How is Ali overated when he dominated two generations of heavyweights, the 60's and 70's and beat every single one of them, winning the title three times along the way?
Dude, get a grip! He beat ALL OF THEM. He was the best of the sixties, and the best of the 70s. Name another heavyweight to do that. You are CRAZED! RABID! or just plain the stupidest person to ever comment on this site. STFU!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
i think ali game was at its best hear right before he started noticeably mentally slowing down
ecosby100 8 months ago
OJ...that's a murderer in the making LOL
bennyvega100 9 months ago 16
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LRGKING1991 9 months ago
hahahahahahahaha OJ simpson didnt see that coming dont do that to your wife message to the past!! Hope he reads it in time or wife leaves dont get any ideas afro OJ from the past i should stop commenting now okay i will stop mmmmmmmmmmmm ok for real now uuhhhh not oki will stop hahahahaha OJ ok iwill stop now lol ! laugh out loud thats what lol means ok i will stop texing now !!!!!!! hahahahah OJ ok for real now!!!!!!!!!!
LRGKING1991 9 months ago
@LRGKING1991 wtf is wrong with you?
Clipper786 9 months ago
@Clipper786 HEY EAT A DICK
LRGKING1991 7 months ago
He didn't pull down on the head his whole career!!!!!!! He simply beat sonnly liston without doin tht he beat cleveland williams and even henry cooper without doin that!!!!!!!! He is the greatest and if he holds behind the neck you all besta start doin that cuz if he's the champ then u guys follow behind what he does cuz he is the greatest of all time!!!!!
gbigful 9 months ago
@gbigful Yeah, right, right. Great comment. Ali forever, because he earned it.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
I didn't know it was legal to pull down on the back of the head; yet that motherfucker did it his whole career!
sunamcmnairb 9 months ago
@sunamcmnairb Yep they didn't start really enforcing it until the 80's. But Ali did it again and again in the second half of his career.
Lcowand1 8 months ago
@sunamcmnairb Yeah Ali got away with a ton of shit. The media and the refs loved the guy but he was a dick and overrated....
aitraining 8 months ago
@aitraining shutup
mmajunkie250 8 months ago
@aitraining That's just you opinion dude, remember that, its just your opinion.
JRGrange25 8 months ago
@aitraining Ali got away with a 'Ton' of shit, you say? I challenge you - like what? Name the ton of shit you're whinning about. Seems people can't accomplish a thing in life without a bunch of haters hating them for it. Ali is and earned his title as the greatest heavyweight; be a man, just suck it up and go on with your life. LOL.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@aitraining Have you no notion why Ali was stripped unjustly of his title in the 60s and the political, legal, and even the general white public did nothing to stop or correct it until the 1970s? Because they Hated Ali and was opposed to him, villified and crucified him for his religious and political beliefs pertaining to the Viet Nam War, and most promiment among them was the...yeay, that's right, the US MEDIA! Listen to Howard Cosell on the dispicable role of the media in persecuting Ali.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Too bad they didn't edit the O.J. Simpson parts out and put some stuff like Ali and the toy gorilla that made Frasier so mad in it's place! That shit was too funny and the fact that it totally pissed dumbass Frasier off just made it all that much funnier... to me anyway! My... Didn't Mr. Simpson add a lot to the quality of our lives with all of his worthwhile contributions to society! Nothing like going to jail with $50K bail because the wife SAID you hit her with her own fist... Thanks, O.J...
HardRockDrummer666 9 months ago
The ref saved Frazier from being knocked out by Ali in the 2nd round. Frazier never backed off in a fight, the fact he backed off was because he was really hurt by that Ali right. Its funny how Joe said he had a more effective punch when it was him who staggered a couple of times during this fight. I had this fight 9-3 Ali. I think 2 judges had it the same way.
vladiator100 10 months ago
@2pacinseattle probably taunting Joe
Mcfailerson 10 months ago
Does anyone know why Ali yelled at 2:57 during the clinch?
Frazier didn't appear to hit him at the time so it can't be from pain.
2pacinseattle 11 months ago
@2pacinseattle anger maby that what i do
tigeriron1 10 months ago
@2pacinseattle That was just Ali talking trash to Joe.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
ahahhahah LOL OJ SIMPSON! XD
Enten901 11 months ago
Wow Ali sure can hold and hold and hold and hold. Boring fighter with illegal tactics and a mouth that wowed the refs and pundits from criticizing a way overrated fighter who simply cheated or was gifted his way to many victories.
dropway9 11 months ago
why o j shaking his ass while making comment? 3:30
pinusstrikesback 11 months ago
Is this a wrestling match? Hey Tony Perez, how bout at least a warning for holding?
blite13 11 months ago
The GREAT Juice.
roquey44 11 months ago
OJ fuck off man... hell is waiting for you with arms wide open...
Managerus 1 year ago
@Managerus Aww you still think there is a "Hell"? Well, sanity is waiting for with arms wide open.
PhillyBlunt6988 11 months ago
Isn't it illegal for Ali to be holding the back of Frazier's head & pulling him around the ring by it ?? I believe it is. Why doesn't he get warned for it ?
faltagh 1 year ago
if muhammad was in his prime he would win
Clayton6996 1 year ago
@Clayton6996 he did win
paulstefan 1 year ago
@Clayton6996
Which fight are you speaking of?
Because Ali won this fight.
2pacinseattle 11 months ago
Joe landed more effective punches.
jacob1363 1 year ago
Ali is playing fair enough while joe sucks he is fucking going for the body///sick joe
irfanqayyum1 1 year ago
i mean look at 2.55, what the hell is that. thats the wussiest couple of punches ever. actually no, thats how boxing was in the 70's people werent as big and boxers werent as strong or good. thats is why today we dont really have a dominating boxer besides mike tysons era. everyone is strong and good. ali at his best wouldnt stand a chance against boxers today,
whatrugonnadocrazy 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy thats got to be one of the dumbest things ive ever read and I see a lot on youtube,your theory is backwards. So let me get this straight your pretty much saying that no name fighters of today could beat the Ali's, Joe Louis's, Rocky Marciano's of yesterday because their stronger. Well if you knew anything about boxing you would know its more than just about power, its about mental, speed, footwork, technique, heart, etc. Ali would run circles around todays strongest boxer.
jackfrost365 1 year ago
@jackfrost365i dont think no name boxers could win against ali. I just think the best from the last 30 years or so, mainly mike tyson, hollyfield, buster douglas. guys at that calibre may just have too much power. yea of course speed, footwork, heart stamina comes into play. but dont forget most of the good boxers have all that and also have much more power. so I basically what im saying is that ali can only go so far, if he keeps getting hit from guys like mike tyson, hes going down. whatuthink
whatrugonnadocrazy 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy Id say Ali fought very powerful dudes throughout his career, It wasnt a problem for him to face stronger guys like Frazier and Sonny Liston, his greatest skill was that he took the strong and apparently invincible boxers apart, disabled them. Ali from the 60ies could in my opinion beat anyone, no man could face that diversity and skill, not anytime, not anywhere. I mean look at the guy, he makes current champions look like lost souls, thats never been done since. Ali Bomaye
arneohman 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy I think Ali already fought the tyson's of his time i.e. Forman, Shavers. Power is great but speed kills,power fighers tend to become dependent on it like a drug, which is why guys like Ali fustrated and tired them out with counters and quick movement.
jackfrost365 1 year ago
@jackfrost365i dont want to take anything away from ali, he was one of the best, no doubt. but tell me if im wrong. guys like forman and fraizer or shaver had power but they didnt have it all except stamina. Mike Tyson had it all except great stamina and heart. He was really agile considering the amount of power he had. Forman and etc. wasnt even close to as quick as mike, they were only power. so yea Ali was able to dismantle them since his style contradicts their styles. but not mike.
whatrugonnadocrazy 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy Why is everyone mentioning Mike Tyson. You should be mentioning Evander Holyfield. He beat Mike twice. Evander EXPOSED Mike. Fight him back. He quits. Mike is a bum!
bangitslo 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy There's just three little problems with your logic here - let me name them: 1) Buster Douglass whipped Mike; 2) Holyfield whipped Mike repeatedly; and Lennox Lewis Bitched him. Get my point? Mike was a flawed fighter who got owned by his own generation of heavyweights, and not just the great ones like Holyfield and Lewis- the fool got KNOCKED OUT by Buster Douglass! Ali would have done it to.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@jackfrost365 this is what i came down to. if both Tyson and Ali were able to utilize their styles the best they can, without any mistakes. Ali probably has an advantage. due to his reach, height and his style of fighting. but the if Ali makes small mistakes and allows mike to get close, they Tyson could get a couple of good hits and knock him down.
whatrugonnadocrazy 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy thats true but besides Ali's great speed and agility he had a damn good chin. As many power fighters that he fought you did'nt see him on his back much. Another aspect to consider is Ali's ability to enter his opponets head while also adjusting to their style giving him the edge on Tyson. Tyson was however the last great heavyweight champ.
jackfrost365 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy Ali go down from a coupla good hits by mike Tyson? Are you crazy? Witness the first and last Frazier fights- Ali got hit with left hooks that would have bought down buildings! and the only one that bought him down happened in the 15th round of the first fight when he was complely spent- Tyson would not have made it to the 15th round with ALI, so he wouln't be able to repeat Fraziers one time feat, because Tyson is no Frazier, he wouldn't be able to stand up to Ali that long.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice Ali is a Prick, pity he never met like Tyson in the ring. He would dance like a butterfly & get squashed like a Fly XD First hit would make him piss his pants. Second make him piss blood. There is no doubt that Ali is built like a tooth-pic in comparison. He's got speed, but never met Speed AND Power like Tyson. Cant even compare. Tyson is far more Developed Physically then any of these men & his athletic ability is no doubt superior.
TheVALLEYoftheDEAD 6 months ago
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD id like to see you go against him Mr. tough guy. youll probaly get fuking brutaly bashed
SamSouied12 6 months ago
@SamSouied12 You fucking dyslexic son?
- You see you name in that comment?....
- then why the fuck you talking to me? - Fuck off "Sam...
btw: want my come back, go look in your mothers mouth, bitch!
TheVALLEYoftheDEAD 6 months ago
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD YouTyson sycophants! You're the most delirious, deluded, and dishonest commentators I've ever seen on any subject. You've seen bunches of people Mike could'nt knock out, that took him the distance, but you say ALI couldn't go the distance too, when lesser fighters than he could? NUTS! And you've seen Tyson's ass whipped, owned, knocked out repeatedly by lesser fighters than ALI, yet you say Ali couldn't do it? Reserve your comments for a psychiatrist! Reality fails you.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice No, your just a dumb fucker who watches too much t.v, then talks a load shit, but has never 'competed' in any level of 'professorial Sport' beyond shagging your yourself, - [which you could conciser a 'profession' by now cause its clear your got your dick in your mouth] The fact is any man who knows, ''a dick from a pussy'' will tell you you got a pussy [jk] -no seriously, LOL!! Fact is, you cant compare these two men, the one is far superior athlete [Tyson] to the other.
TheVALLEYoftheDEAD 6 months ago
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD Well, don't cuss me out! Be logical man. ILOL
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice Just stating a few facts. In my 'logical opinion' you cant compere these two men, both are unique & amazing athletes.They are 2 completely different men, grew up in [literally] two different 'eras' & came from 2 different backgrounds. They are 'unique' athletes in every way. Ali i would compare to 'The Beatles', Tyson - ''The Rolling stones' .Who's better all depends on what you drinking;D ,but when all shit is said & done, -they are both 1st class fighters & world calls Athletes!!
TheVALLEYoftheDEAD 6 months ago 14
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD My friend I will help you. I will give you the answer, so you will never have to doubt who would win.
Ali would win. Ali would humiliate Tyson if they met each other in their prime. They are both amazing athletes, but Ali was the king of boxing.
michaelyouth 3 months ago
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD very well said :)
DavidW894 1 month ago
@TheVALLEYoftheDEAD Hey, seriously, though; it should not go unnoticed that no expert in the boxing world considers or regards Tyson after all his ass whippings by people he COULDN'T OVERPOWER, anywhere near "THE BEST". Only rank ametuers (did I spell that right LOL), the insane, the stupid, the ignorant, the haters and the Tyson sycophants spew such groundless babble. Where are the authorities in boxing, the experts who rank tyson best? Dumbass fanatic fans don't count.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice Well, you can only look at which fighter/Athlete 'stood his ground' & 'erased the competition' against the fighters and/or athletes of his/her time/era. Im not informed on these guys to make a comment like that, but for example, you cant compare 'Kelly Slater' to 'Jerry Lopez'. Both where are amazing Surfers / Athletes. I can only look at which surfer/Athlete 'stood his ground' & 'erased the competition'. Even then there are still great surfers / fighters who don't even compete.
TheVALLEYoftheDEAD 6 months ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy Sonny Liston would've broke Mike Tyson in half. George Foreman made a comeback to fight Mike Tyson. Tyson and King said "Hell No". As for Ali and Tyson, please. Ali would smack that boy all around the ring. (See Tyson vs. Douglas)
bangitslo 1 year ago
@bangitslo Preach it! Preach it!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@bangitslo what do you mean see tyson and douglas, mike was barely in any shape to fight even. he was partying, he wasn't really training and he was probably on drugs. Ali was most likely always focused. just look at them punch a punching bag, Mike's punches even 'Look' like they can rip a whole through someone. Ali is more a smack or a snap punch. sure there both good, but i don't know if ali could withstand Mike's shots. Fighters weren't as strong back then.
whatrugonnadocrazy 6 months ago
Respond to this video... and sorry but strength usually translates to more power, and speed if trained correctly.
whatrugonnadocrazy 6 months ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy Please witness the Ali fights from the prime 60s years, and you'll see that Mike Tyson wouln't even be able to FIND Ali to apply any power against him; and old 70s Ali, the old one even with ringrust and diminished skills, would have found a way to OUTSMART him- witness Frazier, Forman, Norton, Shavers, Quarry, etc. etc. Tyson? Ha ha ha! couldn't even beat the best of his own generation, witness Douglass, Holyfield, Lewis who OWNED him, so there's no way Ali couldn't do it.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
ali was only good in his time, today he would get destroyed even in his prime. mike tyson could honestly destroy both of these fighters no problem. mike was faster, stronger, and had a way better punch than any of these guys. cmom people ali doesnt look so hot in his fights. i dont get why he considered the best, just cause he has a good record, doesnt mean hes the best.
whatrugonnadocrazy 1 year ago
@whatrugonnadocrazy No, he's considered the best for one reason, and one reason alone; he found a way to KEEP FROM GETTING KNOCKED OUT by power punchers his whole career, while whipping every one of them he faced for 2, not 1, but for 2 generations (60s and 70s (80s don't count))and winning 3 titles along the way. Mike the hardest punching heavyweight? No sir, Ring magizine ranks mike something like 19th, with Liston, Foreman and Shavers all in the top 10. Look it up.Ring Mags Heaviest punchers.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice i just looked it up. its seems according to that list, mike tyson is 16th. George foreman is 10 th and frazier is like 39. Also Ali is not even on the list. so i guess what i initially stated still hold up. fine george foreman is 10 and Mike is 16, it doesn't matter because mike has a lot more than a super hard punch. he's agile, he's quick, he's strong, and he's fierce. I bet he would destroy George, fraizer, and probably ali too. mike was as dedicated as ali, forget it.
whatrugonnadocrazy 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice not to forget to mention, mike was the youngest champion ever. i think if mike kept focused, i don't think anyone in his era could beat him. maybe one or two guys when he had a bad day but if he kept his focus in the zone, forget it, no way
whatrugonnadocrazy 6 months ago
you can't dance for 15 rounds
KickAssFan2010 1 year ago
Uhh- hold & clinch, much?! Perez let Ali get away w/ tht shit whole fight. Read article in Ring Mgzne about how tht ws Ali's strgy going in, cuz' Dundee & Ali knew how much pnshmnt he took from lft hooks & body shots in 71. Esp fucked up ws how Perez allowd Ali 2 clench gluv arnd Joe's nck all nite, esp wen Joe got in close. Fawt like pussy Mayweather in this one, unlike 1 & 3, which were classics. I dismiss 2 as a farce.
3244gorilla 1 year ago
@3244gorilla Excuse the late comment, I just noticed your whine of a loser comment.Never excuse a fighter for being unable to figure out & conquor his opponent. The stuff is inexcusable. Frazier just couldn't figure out how to whip Ali's ass in their last two fights. Whatever Ali did, Frazier should have overcome it. I think a power puncher who cannot catch his opponent with enough power punches to win, should rightfully lose points. If he gets tied up and can't think or punch his way out- TOUGH
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
OJ?lol
junior1497 1 year ago
ali was just to tall for joe
mihailolord 1 year ago
I just realized that Ali was kind of a dick back then... He was cocky as hell
malex102 1 year ago
I got to admit joe had a good spirit
ss11311086 1 year ago
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hotboyme 1 year ago
OOOOOOOOOOOJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ, WE MISS YOU JUICE WHERE ARE YOU???
LilTortillaBoy420 1 year ago
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hotboyme 1 year ago
@hotboyme What - lost 6-fights? Frazier lost four in his creer.
polytide51 1 year ago
@polytide51 six knockdowns by foreman
junior1497 1 year ago