Janeway probably enjoys so much salami to herself on Voyager... Slipstream drive she hears, Janeway: Home in less than 10 hours? Janrway but so much sex and I here and sleep around without being caught out....
At first warp was something super dooper... then a couple years of star trek lator it's like taking a car into first gear. Now it's make way for slipstream biotches, i'm taking this into overdrive! A few seasons lator it woulda been "hyper quantim metastream is powering up, engage..."
@00ShuYin00 At normal full impulse, traveling 9 million km would take approximately two minutes. I suspect they're going substantially quicker than that.
@Clonetrooperkev No because they had a limited supply of benamite crystals and what they had were beginning to decay. Harry said that it would take years to harvest enough to try again.
Yeah transwarp drive worked in the novels too, and had already travelled to another galaxy in the STIII novel; the Excelsior was just going because it had more firepower.
Hmm is this where i can say regardless movie scripted or not never to trust a asian cause they are always looking for ways to look like they know what they are doing but in truth and reality they really don't? lol
@Shuyin360 At the end of Hope And Fear, it was determined that the slipstream was causing some sort of damage to Voyager, and couldn't risk using it again. Seven said that she intended to find a way to use slipstream again safely, which then brought forth the god damned phase variance.
A case of can't win for losing.
I too had trouble with the landing the ship, plus that a planet just happens to be in extreme reach.
Explane how in the world that shuttle remaind in slipstream after voyager (as the sourse of the slipstream) fell out? The slipstream tunnel should have collapsed without an engine "supporting" it.
In this episode they were no longer than 10 minutes at slipstream and already at the edge of the alpha quadrant. In "Hope and fear" they were a couple of hours at slipstream and travelled much less than that. So slipstream is possible at different velocities???
@frankstaats1983 well however you wanna call it the games effect is wrong. you shuold be flying inside a tranwarp like wormhole rather then being at warp 20. the diffrence being transwarp uses gates and slipstream can genrate it.
@frankstaats1983 and if i rember my star-trek they don't go past high warp 9 due to the subspace pressure it generates ripping the ships apart. happiness to voyager twice. transwarp being the exception. but being its borg controlled they never relly got far in terms of making that standerd for the feds.
@Li5468 slipstream wasn't broken. voyager just was never desined for it. the ship couldn't go at those speeds for very long without flying apart. rember in that same story arc he uses it again to chase the other slipstream ship and fly's the outer hull off. in the end they still have the drive they could have rode all the way home if they wanted but decided it was to much for voyager to handle.
@ssj4goko4 Actually they just added it, it's a Vice Admiral ability and allows you to go warp 20 through sector space for 30 seconds. You really hall ass compared to the warp 9.97.
@animeownage86 slipstream is not warp anyways. everyone knoe's when you hit warp 10 you can come out anywhere in the universe. slipstream is more like traveling threw a stable wormhole. but artificial and not as fast as the real deal like ds9 or other wormholes..
@ssj4goko4 Slipstream is not like a wormhole at all, it is a form of Transwarp. Now bear with me this takes a while to explain properly. Transwarp is defined as any method of propulsion that allows you to jump the warp 10 barrier (much the same way the warp drive allows you to jump the lightspeed barrier that we have today). Remember warp 10 is impossible to reach, it is infinite velocity and requires infinite power.
@ssj4goko4 Cont... Now, I know they did in "Threshold", but that episode has been declared non-canon, the episode is absolute nonsense, and it does not count anymore. From reading comments of the couple of episodes that deal with ships going at speeds "higher" that warp 10, I have noticed that people tend to think that warp 10 being infinite is a mistake (after all if you are going warp 11 how are you going faster than infinite speed).
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 3...However, there are numerous examples in mathematics, of functions tending to infinity and becoming finite again (the TAN function to name one). There is no reason why the warp scale cannot operate in the same way. To wrap this up, and have it make sense, you need to know how the warp scale works. Starfleet ships measure speed relative to the warp drive's power use curve. On a graph you can picture speed as a line that goes up to infinity, as you would expect.
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 4.... However, the line for power use has a series of peaks in, each peak marks a warp factor. So, warp 1 is a peak, then it drops straight down, and works back up to warp 2, straight down again, and back up to warp 3, and so on. Speed meanwhile goes up in a constant fashion. So, warp 1.1 takes less power that warp 1 but less than warp 2. If that does not make sense just search google images for "warp scale" and you will find the graph.
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 5.... Now, remember that, in theory, you can go the same speed as transwarp using a conventional warp drive you could get right up close to infinite speed by going warp 9.99999999999... But that is going to take a tremendous amount of power since the power curve is also growing to infinity. Which brings in transwarp. We do not have a canon representation of what the warp scale looks above warp 10.
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 6 (last one I promise, lol)... However, based on the data we do have, it is reasonable to extrapolate that it would mirror the kinds of patterns we see on the warp speed and power graph, building up to another barrier at warp 20, but that is pure speculation. Transwarp then, would be a much more efficient way of traveling at those speeds. Again, sorry to write you an essay based on one little comment. But it is something I enjoy.
@animeownage86 lol sorry for all the comments but when in slipstream in the mmo sector space shouldn't even be there you should be in the slipstream tunnel. and it should not say warp 20 being its imposable but simply say slipstream.
Is Slip Stream from Andromeda? Like you can travel from the Milky Way Galaxy all the way to Andromeda in under 10 hours. O_o..Oh !! And also! a Slip Stream Drive needs to open an Entry as well as an Exit SlipStream hole in Space. Or else one wrong turn and you could be thrown 20 billion light years off course and never get home.
Thats what I remember from Andromeda. But It was really awesome when the Slipstream Drive was used on the Voyager :3
@animeownage86 Added to what? A shitty Cryptik game recently sold off to a Chinese company with no goal in mind except to milk hardcore Star Trek fans and take all their hard-earned cash? If there's ever another Star Trek series you can bet your ass they will ignore everything that shitty game has done to the canon.
@Shockwaver08 not really if they were already going that speed then so were there bodies.. just like when you go faster in a car you get pushed back in your seat but then your body gets used to it and then you aren't being pushed back
Well, only a matter of time before federation scientists and engineers perfect this system's implementation. It already works but the phase variance and the inability of the computer to compensate for them quickly enough are the problem it seems.
whats funny is that in the Voyager relaunch after the Borg incursion into the Alpha Quadrant in the Destiny trilogy, the U.S.S. Voyager is equipped with slipstream and makes regular travels to the Delta Quadrant and back - Kirsten Beyer's "Full Circle" and "Unworthy" books.
"not exactly how I wanted to cross the finish line"
mobiusbelmont 1 week ago
Janeway probably enjoys so much salami to herself on Voyager... Slipstream drive she hears, Janeway: Home in less than 10 hours? Janrway but so much sex and I here and sleep around without being caught out....
coolwatch26 2 weeks ago
The series sure SEEMED like 75 years.
SouthParkBear 3 weeks ago
No Way, this isn't USS Aventine, nor is she Ezri Dax!!
MrAtseyes 3 weeks ago
At first warp was something super dooper... then a couple years of star trek lator it's like taking a car into first gear. Now it's make way for slipstream biotches, i'm taking this into overdrive! A few seasons lator it woulda been "hyper quantim metastream is powering up, engage..."
jaymorpheus11 1 month ago
@MrHoppers002
Maybe, but no other commander can look so sexy in the command chair
SauceofEpic 1 month ago
@SauceofEpic
Kirk wouldn't have her on his worst day.
SouthParkBear 3 weeks ago
@00ShuYin00 At normal full impulse, traveling 9 million km would take approximately two minutes. I suspect they're going substantially quicker than that.
treker2379 1 month ago
So they couldn't use it afterwords. Why? I mean, they could try multiple jumps right? No?
Clonetrooperkev 2 months ago
@Clonetrooperkev No because they had a limited supply of benamite crystals and what they had were beginning to decay. Harry said that it would take years to harvest enough to try again.
PoxyBear 1 month ago
@PoxyBear
So they had enough to get home but only traveled less than halfway there. So there isn't any juice left in the crystals? Use it once and *pop* gone?
Clonetrooperkev 1 month ago
@PoxyBear
So why not just jettison the saucer-section, put everyone in the engineering-section and just get all the way home in that part?
Or just send a shuttle back home, give the Federation the technology, and come back with the whole fleet?
Or..... something?
SouthParkBear 3 weeks ago
They do eventually get quantum slipstream to work in the novels. Voyager is sent on another exploratory mission to the Delta Quadrant.
Mkoberland 4 months ago
@Mkoberland '
Yeah transwarp drive worked in the novels too, and had already travelled to another galaxy in the STIII novel; the Excelsior was just going because it had more firepower.
So it's safe to say, the novels ain't canon.
SouthParkBear 3 weeks ago
reminds me of farscape for some reason
jmm1233 4 months ago
There's too much salami on this ship.
brianwesley28 4 months ago
@00ShuYin00 There are fewer methods of propulsion faster than a slipstream drive, but plot convenience and/or poor pacing are two of them...:)
Renji1 4 months ago
Didn't Scotty have a similar problem with a computer that wasn't up to the task?
ShoulderAB07 5 months ago
9 million kilometers and it looks like they're already in orbit lol
TheRealityJack 6 months ago
Captain Janeway definitely was NOT the Queen of the Slipstream.
greatcow95 7 months ago
*I* wish janeway asked tuvok how much of a risk? That right there leaves open an alternate conclusion right there
Aquien1 9 months ago
Harry never does anything right.
"I screwed up the phase corrections"
"I worked on these corrections for a decade...and I failed again"
It took an out of date medical Hologram to figure out how to save Voyager.
LivesForJihad 9 months ago
I am wondering why didn't they abandon ship... Yeah its only one minute... But launch all shuttles and escape pods.. some may have made it..
ussanzac 10 months ago
this is why janeway is the worse captain of the bunch.
MrHoppers002 8 months ago
Hmm is this where i can say regardless movie scripted or not never to trust a asian cause they are always looking for ways to look like they know what they are doing but in truth and reality they really don't? lol
Viper6454 11 months ago
4:40 all died on impact?
pinoi78 11 months ago
@pinoi78 they really did.
explosionmonty 9 months ago
Hell, with the inertial dampeners offline the initial crash must have killed everyone on board instantly...
sunlightguy75 1 year ago 2
@sunlightguy75 i imagine they ended up as thin as the salami slices in harry's sandwiches
jeohuinG 7 months ago
@Shuyin360 At the end of Hope And Fear, it was determined that the slipstream was causing some sort of damage to Voyager, and couldn't risk using it again. Seven said that she intended to find a way to use slipstream again safely, which then brought forth the god damned phase variance.
A case of can't win for losing.
I too had trouble with the landing the ship, plus that a planet just happens to be in extreme reach.
Potrimpo 1 year ago
Explane how in the world that shuttle remaind in slipstream after voyager (as the sourse of the slipstream) fell out? The slipstream tunnel should have collapsed without an engine "supporting" it.
Shockwaver08 1 year ago 2
Timeless was one of their better episodes. The ending is fantastic.
captainadam1 1 year ago
I got it on my Intrepid class - awsome
rextrek 1 year ago
They didn't have to hit a planet but that's what they always seems to do.
darkguardian1314 1 year ago
In this episode they were no longer than 10 minutes at slipstream and already at the edge of the alpha quadrant. In "Hope and fear" they were a couple of hours at slipstream and travelled much less than that. So slipstream is possible at different velocities???
frankstaats1983 1 year ago
@frankstaats1983 well however you wanna call it the games effect is wrong. you shuold be flying inside a tranwarp like wormhole rather then being at warp 20. the diffrence being transwarp uses gates and slipstream can genrate it.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@frankstaats1983 and if i rember my star-trek they don't go past high warp 9 due to the subspace pressure it generates ripping the ships apart. happiness to voyager twice. transwarp being the exception. but being its borg controlled they never relly got far in terms of making that standerd for the feds.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@Li5468 slipstream wasn't broken. voyager just was never desined for it. the ship couldn't go at those speeds for very long without flying apart. rember in that same story arc he uses it again to chase the other slipstream ship and fly's the outer hull off. in the end they still have the drive they could have rode all the way home if they wanted but decided it was to much for voyager to handle.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
slipstream is awsome pisses me off the mmo based in the futer does not have slipstream. not like they didnt bring the drive home with them.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago 4
@ssj4goko4 Actually they just added it, it's a Vice Admiral ability and allows you to go warp 20 through sector space for 30 seconds. You really hall ass compared to the warp 9.97.
animeownage86 1 year ago 16
@animeownage86 doesn't sound like ture slipstream to me. theirs no limit on a ship that can handle it.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@animeownage86 slipstream is not warp anyways. everyone knoe's when you hit warp 10 you can come out anywhere in the universe. slipstream is more like traveling threw a stable wormhole. but artificial and not as fast as the real deal like ds9 or other wormholes..
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Slipstream is not like a wormhole at all, it is a form of Transwarp. Now bear with me this takes a while to explain properly. Transwarp is defined as any method of propulsion that allows you to jump the warp 10 barrier (much the same way the warp drive allows you to jump the lightspeed barrier that we have today). Remember warp 10 is impossible to reach, it is infinite velocity and requires infinite power.
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@alphaswimmer55 replyed heh
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Cont... Now, I know they did in "Threshold", but that episode has been declared non-canon, the episode is absolute nonsense, and it does not count anymore. From reading comments of the couple of episodes that deal with ships going at speeds "higher" that warp 10, I have noticed that people tend to think that warp 10 being infinite is a mistake (after all if you are going warp 11 how are you going faster than infinite speed).
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 3...However, there are numerous examples in mathematics, of functions tending to infinity and becoming finite again (the TAN function to name one). There is no reason why the warp scale cannot operate in the same way. To wrap this up, and have it make sense, you need to know how the warp scale works. Starfleet ships measure speed relative to the warp drive's power use curve. On a graph you can picture speed as a line that goes up to infinity, as you would expect.
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 4.... However, the line for power use has a series of peaks in, each peak marks a warp factor. So, warp 1 is a peak, then it drops straight down, and works back up to warp 2, straight down again, and back up to warp 3, and so on. Speed meanwhile goes up in a constant fashion. So, warp 1.1 takes less power that warp 1 but less than warp 2. If that does not make sense just search google images for "warp scale" and you will find the graph.
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 5.... Now, remember that, in theory, you can go the same speed as transwarp using a conventional warp drive you could get right up close to infinite speed by going warp 9.99999999999... But that is going to take a tremendous amount of power since the power curve is also growing to infinity. Which brings in transwarp. We do not have a canon representation of what the warp scale looks above warp 10.
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@ssj4goko4 Cont part 6 (last one I promise, lol)... However, based on the data we do have, it is reasonable to extrapolate that it would mirror the kinds of patterns we see on the warp speed and power graph, building up to another barrier at warp 20, but that is pure speculation. Transwarp then, would be a much more efficient way of traveling at those speeds. Again, sorry to write you an essay based on one little comment. But it is something I enjoy.
alphaswimmer55 1 year ago
@animeownage86 lol sorry for all the comments but when in slipstream in the mmo sector space shouldn't even be there you should be in the slipstream tunnel. and it should not say warp 20 being its imposable but simply say slipstream.
ssj4goko4 1 year ago
@animeownage86
Is Slip Stream from Andromeda? Like you can travel from the Milky Way Galaxy all the way to Andromeda in under 10 hours. O_o..Oh !! And also! a Slip Stream Drive needs to open an Entry as well as an Exit SlipStream hole in Space. Or else one wrong turn and you could be thrown 20 billion light years off course and never get home.
Thats what I remember from Andromeda. But It was really awesome when the Slipstream Drive was used on the Voyager :3
arshdeep125 1 year ago
@animeownage86 Added to what? A shitty Cryptik game recently sold off to a Chinese company with no goal in mind except to milk hardcore Star Trek fans and take all their hard-earned cash? If there's ever another Star Trek series you can bet your ass they will ignore everything that shitty game has done to the canon.
insaneapples 6 months ago
@animeownage86 its warp 9.975 not 9.97
rgregoryoa 2 months ago in playlist Star Trek
He said enertal dampeners OFFLINE! If they went offline wouldnt the entire crew get pancaked on the wall at that speed?
Shockwaver08 1 year ago
@Shockwaver08 not really if they were already going that speed then so were there bodies.. just like when you go faster in a car you get pushed back in your seat but then your body gets used to it and then you aren't being pushed back
shadowOrgon 1 year ago
the spitstream fail
chevron8locked 1 year ago
when i watched this episode, i knew why the slipstream was defect, the champagne that was thrown agaiunst it...
sim5191 1 year ago
one of the best episodes...
bumblebert 1 year ago
I just realised. No Starfleet vessel is equipped with a toilet.
oolon56 1 year ago
@oolon56 the ship in the Enterprise series had one i think, back right of their breifing room ;)
SuperJJx 1 year ago
@oolon56 The go in a a desequencer the (opposite of a replicator).
factsonlyplease1 1 year ago
why isnt your account blocked? paramount is checking accounts for copyrights
sanderrodijk 1 year ago
Well, only a matter of time before federation scientists and engineers perfect this system's implementation. It already works but the phase variance and the inability of the computer to compensate for them quickly enough are the problem it seems.
jkeelsnc 2 years ago 9
@jkeelsnc
In the ST: Destiny novels, some Federation starships like the USS Aventine use the Quantum Slipstream Drive.
FekLeyrTarg 10 months ago
@jkeelsnc they do if u read star trek voyager unworthy they perfect it. I'm not going to spoil it for u if u havent read it
englishdragon88 8 months ago
I remember this episode. One of my favourite non-battle episodes.
Seattlecarnut 2 years ago
sim5191 2 years ago
whats funny is that in the Voyager relaunch after the Borg incursion into the Alpha Quadrant in the Destiny trilogy, the U.S.S. Voyager is equipped with slipstream and makes regular travels to the Delta Quadrant and back - Kirsten Beyer's "Full Circle" and "Unworthy" books.
gamecock86 2 years ago
Cool.
FekLeyrTarg 2 years ago
awesome video.
Starwarstreky 2 years ago
it would be great if this was the end of voyager. :)
hoppers001 2 years ago
great episode!!! wish you would upload the rest!
notaclerk1 2 years ago
chaek my Favs I got this entire episode in there...............somewhere.
Kingrex16 2 years ago
Excelente Calidad!!! espero que pronto salga Voyager en BD
dai85do 2 years ago