How to get into Competition Shooting

[Mrcaffinebean]

Dude thanks for mentioning the young shooters! I'm looking to get into USPSA shooting, Just don't have the cash right now.

[tekwatcher]

Great info for me as I've been wanting to get into the shooting competition. And race did cross my mind, I didn't dwell on it, but I am glad you brought it up because I'm sure it gets into a few people's minds. Thanks.

[Twoodall]

what holster are you using in this video?

[hajime21sac]

hey man thanks for the vid and clips. Nice to see you shoot in a comp setting. Felt like I was sittin there near the fire.

[Castleknight]

Good information. I would recommend you do this same subject again in a better lit and acoustic environment, as the subject matter is interesting for those of us just getting into shooting.  Liking and sound, as in your reloading vids, which are very good.

[throttletony]

Thanks for the info.. I just moved to Indiana and I want to look for local info here. Thanks for the links also... the search begins :)

[CRAPOLLA123123]

i dont care if you red white or GREEN get into compatition shooting LMAO

[jkatz44]

in which division in uspsa could you shoot a 45 acp

[jkatz44]

hi kickedintheballs2000,

im a junior uspsa production shooter and just got a sw mp 9mmL fpr christmas. i only shot about 200rnds through it but i love it

[kickedintheballs2000]

Yes I remember you man , I'm glad competition shooting is working out for you.

Take care & Shoot safe.

Mike

[nictaylor00]

I'd like to add to the NEWBIE statement on safety. Safety is key. The club (other shooters) will never remember how slow you were, but they will remember how un-safe you were.

[kickedintheballs2000]

Agreed , Safety first , Fun 2nd

[jkatz44]

hey man just shot my first match in uspsa competion as a junior. i love it. hoping to get all the eqipment needed for christman this year. great vid.

[shortexistence]

Ive been a subscriber for a lil while and im mostly into russian rifles and 1911 handguns so the weapon specific stuff hasn't helped me so much but but i respect what ur doing and have learned quite a bit from the ccw aspect and just watching your stance and weapon presentation as well as a lot of the drills you suggest has helped me emmensly. im mostly self taught when it comes to firearms so i thought id just thanks for helpin out.

[gacylikesbrutal]

the end of this video touches down with me, i have my ears stretched out pretty big and i have a whole arm covered in tattoos when ever i go into guns shops i wanna put my hbood on just cuz they stare and some of them ask "why the hell i would do that to myself" its almost as ignorant ask asking why somone would own 20 guns if its my thing, its my thing.

but i shoot at the range and once ppl realize im not a crazy and i take firearms very safly they warm up to me.

good video man!

[kickedintheballs2000]

No problem man , I been there many times myself but once they get to know me they stop hating.

[sshuravesky]

Was IDPA scoring used in the match? IDPA system penalizes dropping points a lot more than USPSA/IPSC. In fact the faster you shoot, the heavier is the relative penalty. Lets say We both shoot the stage with equal number of points down say 3. Say you did it in 6 seconds and I did it in 12. We are both penalized 1.5 seconds (for 3 points down). Your penalty is effectively 25% while mine is only 12.5%.

[kickedintheballs2000]

Yes you are right but thats why I like IDPA it makes you focus more on shot placement and not just how fast you can run the stage.

Don't get me wrong I do love USPSA/IPSC I used to love it more then IDPA but I have always been more about accuracy in my shooting and USPSA/IPSC can install bad accuracy in new and old shooters + USPSA/IPSC has turned into to much of a gear war for my taste.

( I'm not trying to put down any USPSA/IPSC shooters )

( 2 each their own )

[sshuravesky]

I shoot a Glock-35 in USPSA production division and a Springfield 1911 in IDPA CDP division. My IDPA setup is about 1.5 times as expensive as my USPSA one. I feel equally competitive in both so frankly the whole "gear war" is a load of BS in my opinion. USPSA is a lot more competitive and on the whole has better shooters at the high end. I am in the middle of the pack at USPSA matches and near the top at IDPA matches.

[kickedintheballs2000]

Thats cause its a 1911 lol.

I just find IDPA much funner & Cheaper to shoot + it seems like everyone around here is runnin race guns in USPSA/IPSC and even if I do take first in a Match its not rally competitive due to only 5 or 6 people shooting in the production division and the rest running 38 super race guns.

Where is IDPA I use pretty much the same gun I carry daily , theres alot more people in the SSP division and stuff like using cover & slicing the pie is great SD type training.

[sshuravesky]

At our club Production and Limited usually have the most shooters 15-20 each. Open division is usually 10-15 guys. Limited-10, Single Stack and Revolver together rarely get more than 5-10. Production, Limited and Open all have at least a few M & A class shooters and lots of B & C class shooters so plenty of competition at all levels.

On the other hand our local IDPA match is lucky to get 15-20 shooters altogether.

I shoot both for a different type of challenge. For me USPSA is more fun.

[sshuravesky]

I find "equipment race" argument weak. I have never ever been beaten by better equipment, only by better shooters. I honestly feel that until you hit master class, equipment really does not matter all that much - it is all about practice. My last USPSA match I had placed higher than 5 of the Open class shooters. I shot a USPSA shotgun match last month and I was running consistently within less than 5-10 seconds of my friend who used a Saiga. I used a 590A1 pump. I may have beaten him.

[kickedintheballs2000]

You can't tell me that a race gun does not shoot faster and more accurately then say a stock firearm and if two shooters where at the same skill level the race gun would win everytime.

I ran both Production & Open division with a AR in 3 gun and I always shot much faster in Open division ( Hell everyone does )

[sshuravesky]

With regards to cost of ammo and practice. Every competitive shooter that I know reloads their own ammo. Once you have tried the sport for a bit and know that its for you, invest in a reloading setup. The sooner you do it, the sooner it will pay for itself and start saving you money.

Having said that - live fire practice should be only a small fraction of the total practice time you put in. For me I spend roughly one hour on the range for every 5 hours of dry fire practice or so.

[sshuravesky]

Be sure to contact the match organizer(s) prior to showing up for the first time. First it will give them a chance to plan for a new shooter orientation. They will also be able to tell you what kind of gear and how much ammo you need to bring. In many clubs you have guys willing to lend you all sorts of gear when you are starting out but they can only do that if they are aware that you are coming. so be sure to contact the match organizers ahead of time.

[rs7388]

I have a suggestion on a follow up video, How to do those double taps. Or some people called a controlled pair.

[sshuravesky]

I think the best name for the technique would be aimed pair. It varies a little with the distance and difficulty of the shot, but in general you should have a good sight picture every time you squeeze the trigger. The general principle is that with the proper grip your gun will "rebound" back to its starting position. You need to be able to see that happen and break your 2nd shot when it happens.

[loxety]

wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt for the poor sound

[MadBadVoodo]

Love the camp fire man!! Thanks for the great info! BTW I always look like a TOOL when I shoot! :)

5/5

[ryanjcus]

Nice video and great philosophy on race, age and personal style.

[311Username]

That answered a lot of questions I had. Nice shooting!

[Leland1037]

Hey Kicked. This is a very informative vid. It clears up alot of confusion. And the campfire setting was AWSOME!!

[kickedintheballs2000]

Thanks man I liked the the whole camp fire look also but I'm still pissed at how bad the lighting turned out.

[Leland1037]

Im sure youll figure out how to make it work sooner or later

[nitefireten]

Very good info