God is clear, any religion that does not profess His Son, is demonic in origin. As long you think in this dualistic nature, you have no peace, no comfort, no happiness and no stability. Find God in your heart before you talk all this nonsense. Ours is a religion just like yours. No one has given you the right to condemn any religion. You are acting more like a Satan than a follower of God.
@hinduwebsite Excellent words. But seriously, these types who post as Christians are completely clueless about the Real Jesus. These fundamentalists who post here dont really even know the bible at all. All they know is how to recite the same regurgitated half understandings and call their whole hate mongering "Us vs. Them" interpretation "Truth". I like what Ghandi had to say "I like your Christ, but I dont like your Christians, who act so unlike him"
The God of Heaven said men would take a piece of wood, make a chair from it, cook their food with it, then fashon a god from it, that could neither hear, see or think. He said He would tell the end from the beginning, He did. Current times included. The Russian, Iran, Turkey aliance against Isreal, one world gov. the world wide econ. crisis, Nuclear War and far more. The generation that see's Israel become a nation is the last one. At 100% accuracy, this leaves idolitry at 0
According to our beliefs, God is not different from the chair or the tree or the stone. Everything in the universe is part of His universal form and worthy of worship. We are never separate from Him. We (Hindus) are especially asked to worship inanimate objects because they don't have ego but the pure presence of God.
In every century, since Christ, in every age, people thought the world was coming to an end. But it did not. So will it be in this age and this century also.
@hinduwebsite God has made Himself clear, In the End of Days, all idols will be swepted from the earth, however each idol does have a spirit. Demonic in origin. Satan always leaves his signature on false belief. I MUST remove the one thing that will give you access to God. Anything else is acceptable. God is light, in Him there is not darkness at all. All men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. God then sent His Son to redeem man from sin. It is the Only Way.
@hinduwebsite It does not matter to satan how religious a person is, how functional in a false belief as long as they never come to know Christ. All will be condemed before God. There is only deception in idolitry, and if you could see the spirit connected to your 'god" you would flee.
@hinduwebsite 1 Cor. 10:19-20 "What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? no, but I say that the things which the gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons, and not to God: And I do not want you to become sharers in demons. You cannot drink the cup of theLord and the cup of demons"
@hinduwebsite Romans 1:22, For even thought they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks: But they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts, For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie,
I suggest that you read the Bhagavadgita also, especially Chapter 7. They are God's words. I take them word by word. You don't have to believe in it. Keep looking for your anticipated end of the world. Last year I had a long conversation with one who claimed he was the coming messaih waiting for his turn to make a delcaration as the end of the world was approaching. He has a website too. This is true, yes he did not say, he wrote me.
@hinduwebsite There is no Truth on this planet other then the Word of God Himself. Listen to Chuck Missler on the authenticity of Gods Word. His signature is on every page. As to other decieved people, there are many both within and without what is referred to as the church. But Gods Word has no deception, and will stand even after there is no world.
@FearThisChannel So has Satan......and his deceptions have always been the same...getting people who inwardly know their is a God, to worship dead, lifeless, deaf, dumb objects and then find themselves in Hell. Good obsevation as to how long....actually any god will do as long as it isnt the ONLY WAY --Watch "Real Demon On my Shoulder' by nigelium for just how you came to be deceived--good luck, you really dont have much time
@hinduwebsite God is clear, any religion that does not profess His Son, is demonic in origin. You really dont have much time, God loves all men, but His time of mercy is nearly over. No one can argue with 100% accuracy. What He says, He will do. This generation will see Tribulation. Israel is Gods time piece and always has been.
The idolatry which your book mentions is not the same as what we practice. There is a fundamental difference. If you want to know about it, you have to study the religion. You can't judge our prqctices using your mindset. You have to study the Upanishads, the Vedas, the Bhagavadgita, spend some time with our priests to understand what they do before you judge a a billion plus people upon earth as worshipper of Satan.
We never ever hear or read about Visnu and the gopies, Visnu and the cowherd boys, Radharani and Visnu, Mother yasodha and Visnu, Lord Visnu in Vrindavan, it is always Krishna and ....btw The total material energy is not the cause of the creation, actually Maha-Visnu enters into the mahat-tattva, the total material energy. He is the soul. When Maha-Visnu enters into the manifested universes, He again manifests Himself as the Supersoul in each and every entity. Lovely discussion btw thanks
The Maha-Vishnu, or Karanodakasayi Vishnu, is described in the Brahma-samhita (5.47) by Lord Brahma. Yah karanarnava-jale bhajati sma yoga-nidram: the Supreme Lord, Krishna, the cause of all causes, lies down in the cosmic ocean as Maha-Vishnu. Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the beginning of this universe, the maintainer of the universal manifestations, and the end of all energy.
The following is described in the Satvata-tantra. Vishnos tu trini rupani purushakhyany atho viduh: the Supreme Personality of Godhead manifests three features—as Karanodakasayi Vishnu, Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and Kshirodakasayi Vishnu—in this material manifestation.
Are you saying that in all the pictures of Krishna available to us, He is shown alike? Are these pictures created by people who have actually seen him?
"God has no specific form." If He has, then He would reveal Himself alike to everyone . But this has not been the case. He is every thing. Both with form and without form. He is worshipped in different forms in different temples. This is the common approach of all schools of Hinduism.
Not all schools, Vaisnavism exclusively teaches that God Krishna has form, there are pictures of Krishna everywhere and the Srimad Bhagavatam and also the song which is played on this video from Brahmas prayer..from the Brahma Samhita "Govindam Adi Purusam" declares that Gods original form is that of Sri Krishna. That the Absolute Truth is only formless, is not even Vedic. The Vedic conclusion is, that the formless Brahman is Krishnas effulgence, like we have an aura & His aura is brahman
I know that He is worshipped in the temples in different forms, I dont know if you referr to the demigods like Ganesha or Shiva Durga e.g. or His incarnations as Lord Rama or Nrsimha deva? btw In the un-manifested there are no pastimes with the Gopies or cowherd boys. Without having an original form, Truth would not be complete as in "Absolute Truth". /watch?v=4Yj3RsNNjcc
"The worshippers of demigods reach the respective planets of the demigods, and the worshippers of forefathers reach the planets of the forefathers. The gross materialist remains in the different material planets, but the devotees of the Lord reach the kingdom of God."
I guess that worshippers of demigods sees them as God not realising Krishna as the master of the demigods
The absolute (nirguna) has no form and the relative (saguna) has forms. Even if we assume that the saguna Brahman has but and only one universal form (Purusha or whatever), it has to be a dynamic form not static. just as the universe has many layers and dimensions.
As for the argument that Siva is a demigod, is purely speculative and sectarian. There are many who have experienced and vouch Siva as the highest supreme Brahman. God appears to people according to their aspirations and inclinations. To say that He is This only or That only is fanaticism.
We have to go by Sastra, not peoples opinions Bhagavad Gita 4.6
Although I am unborn and My transcendental body never deteriorates, and although I am the Lord of all living entities, I still appear in every millennium in My original transcendental form.
Gita 4:6 says," Though (I am) unborn and My Self is imperishable (the verse says avyayatma not avyayadeha), though I am the lord of all creatures, yet establishing Myself in My own nature (prakritim svam adhisthaya), I come into (empiric) being through my Power (maya) - S Radhakrishnan. There is no mention of body here. It mentions of Self and Prarkriti only.
"nirguna" means without any material quality. That is nirguna. Krishna is nirguna, without any material qualities, from Him the formless Brahman emanates.
Nirguna means without the "three qualities", namely sattva, rajas and tamas. They belong to the domain of Prakriti. God's body (kshetra) is Prakriti. The formless doesn't emanate from form. It is the other way around.
I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.
I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose effulgence is the source of the nondifferentiated Brahman mentioned in the Upanishads, being differentiated from the infinity of glories of the mundane universe appears as the indivisible, infinite, limitless, truth.
No no where did you get this from, Gods body material, of course brahman does not come from a material body. Brahman comes from Krishnas transcendental form, He is untouched by nirguna, in fact He says in the Gita "mayadhyakshena prakritih suyate: [Bg. 9.10] "Nature is working under My direction."
Oh Krishna is very dynamic, His various forms are countless, however, He also has His original form as Krishna in Goloka Vrindavan. The conclusion is that the Lord has no material form, He has a original spiritual form and yet, according to the liking of different grades of devotees, He simultaneously exists in multiforms, such as Rama, Nrisimha, Varaha, Narayana and Mukunda. There are many thousands and thousands of forms, but they are all vishnu-tattva, Krishna.
We have some agreement on this aspect. But I have one doubt. If Krishna has an original form in Goloka, doesn't that mean, Goloka is larger than Krishna's form? Same is often argued about Vishnu. If Vishnu has a specific form, aren't the serpent Adishesha and the waters on which Lord Vishnu rests, larger than Him? I know I am asking elementary questions. But these are the issues we confrontwhen we say that "God has a specific form."
Why not? He can do everything, nothing is beyond His scope, For excample the entire creation and annihilation of the material universes depend on the exhaling and inhaling of the Maha Visnu, so we can hardly imagine the magnitude of that Maha Visnu. And yet it is said here that this Maha Visnu is but a plenary portion of the plenary portion of Krishna who is the original Govinda.
God has no form?...he has a form....even in his abode....if this video is claiming that God has no form...that is only one philosophical school in hinduism...but good video...
God is clear, any religion that does not profess His Son, is demonic in origin. As long you think in this dualistic nature, you have no peace, no comfort, no happiness and no stability. Find God in your heart before you talk all this nonsense. Ours is a religion just like yours. No one has given you the right to condemn any religion. You are acting more like a Satan than a follower of God.
hinduwebsite 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite Excellent words. But seriously, these types who post as Christians are completely clueless about the Real Jesus. These fundamentalists who post here dont really even know the bible at all. All they know is how to recite the same regurgitated half understandings and call their whole hate mongering "Us vs. Them" interpretation "Truth". I like what Ghandi had to say "I like your Christ, but I dont like your Christians, who act so unlike him"
judaemic 2 months ago
The God of Heaven said men would take a piece of wood, make a chair from it, cook their food with it, then fashon a god from it, that could neither hear, see or think. He said He would tell the end from the beginning, He did. Current times included. The Russian, Iran, Turkey aliance against Isreal, one world gov. the world wide econ. crisis, Nuclear War and far more. The generation that see's Israel become a nation is the last one. At 100% accuracy, this leaves idolitry at 0
luettem 1 year ago
According to our beliefs, God is not different from the chair or the tree or the stone. Everything in the universe is part of His universal form and worthy of worship. We are never separate from Him. We (Hindus) are especially asked to worship inanimate objects because they don't have ego but the pure presence of God.
hinduwebsite 1 year ago
In every century, since Christ, in every age, people thought the world was coming to an end. But it did not. So will it be in this age and this century also.
hinduwebsite 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite God has made Himself clear, In the End of Days, all idols will be swepted from the earth, however each idol does have a spirit. Demonic in origin. Satan always leaves his signature on false belief. I MUST remove the one thing that will give you access to God. Anything else is acceptable. God is light, in Him there is not darkness at all. All men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. God then sent His Son to redeem man from sin. It is the Only Way.
luettem 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite It does not matter to satan how religious a person is, how functional in a false belief as long as they never come to know Christ. All will be condemed before God. There is only deception in idolitry, and if you could see the spirit connected to your 'god" you would flee.
luettem 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite 1 Cor. 10:19-20 "What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? no, but I say that the things which the gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons, and not to God: And I do not want you to become sharers in demons. You cannot drink the cup of theLord and the cup of demons"
luettem 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite Romans 1:22, For even thought they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks: But they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts, For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie,
luettem 1 year ago
@luettem
I suggest that you read the Bhagavadgita also, especially Chapter 7. They are God's words. I take them word by word. You don't have to believe in it. Keep looking for your anticipated end of the world. Last year I had a long conversation with one who claimed he was the coming messaih waiting for his turn to make a delcaration as the end of the world was approaching. He has a website too. This is true, yes he did not say, he wrote me.
hinduwebsite 1 year ago
@hinduwebsite There is no Truth on this planet other then the Word of God Himself. Listen to Chuck Missler on the authenticity of Gods Word. His signature is on every page. As to other decieved people, there are many both within and without what is referred to as the church. But Gods Word has no deception, and will stand even after there is no world.
luettem 1 year ago
@luettem Hinduism has been around since the dawn of men. To think that those who do not accept Christ are doomed, is idiotic.
FearThisChannel 5 months ago
@FearThisChannel So has Satan......and his deceptions have always been the same...getting people who inwardly know their is a God, to worship dead, lifeless, deaf, dumb objects and then find themselves in Hell. Good obsevation as to how long....actually any god will do as long as it isnt the ONLY WAY --Watch "Real Demon On my Shoulder' by nigelium for just how you came to be deceived--good luck, you really dont have much time
luettem 5 months ago
@hinduwebsite God is clear, any religion that does not profess His Son, is demonic in origin. You really dont have much time, God loves all men, but His time of mercy is nearly over. No one can argue with 100% accuracy. What He says, He will do. This generation will see Tribulation. Israel is Gods time piece and always has been.
luettem 1 year ago
The idolatry which your book mentions is not the same as what we practice. There is a fundamental difference. If you want to know about it, you have to study the religion. You can't judge our prqctices using your mindset. You have to study the Upanishads, the Vedas, the Bhagavadgita, spend some time with our priests to understand what they do before you judge a a billion plus people upon earth as worshipper of Satan.
hinduwebsite 1 year ago
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5ths0n 7 months ago
RadheRadhe!!... my heart dances in ecstasy hearing the wonderful pastimes and of the forms of Sri Krsna... please go on this way... do not stop.....
kusumataji 2 years ago
We never ever hear or read about Visnu and the gopies, Visnu and the cowherd boys, Radharani and Visnu, Mother yasodha and Visnu, Lord Visnu in Vrindavan, it is always Krishna and ....btw The total material energy is not the cause of the creation, actually Maha-Visnu enters into the mahat-tattva, the total material energy. He is the soul. When Maha-Visnu enters into the manifested universes, He again manifests Himself as the Supersoul in each and every entity. Lovely discussion btw thanks
devarsi 2 years ago
The Maha-Vishnu, or Karanodakasayi Vishnu, is described in the Brahma-samhita (5.47) by Lord Brahma. Yah karanarnava-jale bhajati sma yoga-nidram: the Supreme Lord, Krishna, the cause of all causes, lies down in the cosmic ocean as Maha-Vishnu. Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the beginning of this universe, the maintainer of the universal manifestations, and the end of all energy.
devarsi 2 years ago
The following is described in the Satvata-tantra. Vishnos tu trini rupani purushakhyany atho viduh: the Supreme Personality of Godhead manifests three features—as Karanodakasayi Vishnu, Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and Kshirodakasayi Vishnu—in this material manifestation.
devarsi 2 years ago
Are you saying that in all the pictures of Krishna available to us, He is shown alike? Are these pictures created by people who have actually seen him?
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
No of course not these are from the many descriptions of Lord Krishna, taken from the Vedic scriptures.
devarsi 2 years ago
"God has no specific form." If He has, then He would reveal Himself alike to everyone . But this has not been the case. He is every thing. Both with form and without form. He is worshipped in different forms in different temples. This is the common approach of all schools of Hinduism.
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
Not all schools, Vaisnavism exclusively teaches that God Krishna has form, there are pictures of Krishna everywhere and the Srimad Bhagavatam and also the song which is played on this video from Brahmas prayer..from the Brahma Samhita "Govindam Adi Purusam" declares that Gods original form is that of Sri Krishna. That the Absolute Truth is only formless, is not even Vedic. The Vedic conclusion is, that the formless Brahman is Krishnas effulgence, like we have an aura & His aura is brahman
devarsi 2 years ago
I know that He is worshipped in the temples in different forms, I dont know if you referr to the demigods like Ganesha or Shiva Durga e.g. or His incarnations as Lord Rama or Nrsimha deva? btw In the un-manifested there are no pastimes with the Gopies or cowherd boys. Without having an original form, Truth would not be complete as in "Absolute Truth". /watch?v=4Yj3RsNNjcc
devarsi 2 years ago
Bhagavad Gita 9.25
yanti deva-vrata devan
pitriin yanti pitri-vratah
bhutani yanti bhutejya
yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam
"The worshippers of demigods reach the respective planets of the demigods, and the worshippers of forefathers reach the planets of the forefathers. The gross materialist remains in the different material planets, but the devotees of the Lord reach the kingdom of God."
I guess that worshippers of demigods sees them as God not realising Krishna as the master of the demigods
devarsi 2 years ago
The absolute (nirguna) has no form and the relative (saguna) has forms. Even if we assume that the saguna Brahman has but and only one universal form (Purusha or whatever), it has to be a dynamic form not static. just as the universe has many layers and dimensions.
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
As for the argument that Siva is a demigod, is purely speculative and sectarian. There are many who have experienced and vouch Siva as the highest supreme Brahman. God appears to people according to their aspirations and inclinations. To say that He is This only or That only is fanaticism.
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
We have to go by Sastra, not peoples opinions Bhagavad Gita 4.6
Although I am unborn and My transcendental body never deteriorates, and although I am the Lord of all living entities, I still appear in every millennium in My original transcendental form.
devarsi 2 years ago
Gita 4:6 says," Though (I am) unborn and My Self is imperishable (the verse says avyayatma not avyayadeha), though I am the lord of all creatures, yet establishing Myself in My own nature (prakritim svam adhisthaya), I come into (empiric) being through my Power (maya) - S Radhakrishnan. There is no mention of body here. It mentions of Self and Prarkriti only.
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
"nirguna" means without any material quality. That is nirguna. Krishna is nirguna, without any material qualities, from Him the formless Brahman emanates.
devarsi 2 years ago
Nirguna means without the "three qualities", namely sattva, rajas and tamas. They belong to the domain of Prakriti. God's body (kshetra) is Prakriti. The formless doesn't emanate from form. It is the other way around.
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
My answer to this is quiet long, so here is Part one of two.
Bhagavad Gita 10.8
aham sarvasya prabhavo
mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
Word For Word Translation
aham—I; sarvasya—of all; prabhavah—the source of generation; mattah—from Me; sarvam—everything; pravartate—emanates; iti—thus; matva—knowing; bhajante—become devoted; mam—unto Me; budhah—the learned; bhava-samanvitah—with great attention.
devarsi 2 years ago
Part Two of Two
TRANSLATION
I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.
devarsi 2 years ago
Lord Brahma Brahma Samhita 5.40
TRANSLATION
I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose effulgence is the source of the nondifferentiated Brahman mentioned in the Upanishads, being differentiated from the infinity of glories of the mundane universe appears as the indivisible, infinite, limitless, truth.
devarsi 2 years ago
No no where did you get this from, Gods body material, of course brahman does not come from a material body. Brahman comes from Krishnas transcendental form, He is untouched by nirguna, in fact He says in the Gita "mayadhyakshena prakritih suyate: [Bg. 9.10] "Nature is working under My direction."
devarsi 2 years ago
Oh Krishna is very dynamic, His various forms are countless, however, He also has His original form as Krishna in Goloka Vrindavan. The conclusion is that the Lord has no material form, He has a original spiritual form and yet, according to the liking of different grades of devotees, He simultaneously exists in multiforms, such as Rama, Nrisimha, Varaha, Narayana and Mukunda. There are many thousands and thousands of forms, but they are all vishnu-tattva, Krishna.
devarsi 2 years ago
We have some agreement on this aspect. But I have one doubt. If Krishna has an original form in Goloka, doesn't that mean, Goloka is larger than Krishna's form? Same is often argued about Vishnu. If Vishnu has a specific form, aren't the serpent Adishesha and the waters on which Lord Vishnu rests, larger than Him? I know I am asking elementary questions. But these are the issues we confrontwhen we say that "God has a specific form."
hinduwebsite 2 years ago
Why not? He can do everything, nothing is beyond His scope, For excample the entire creation and annihilation of the material universes depend on the exhaling and inhaling of the Maha Visnu, so we can hardly imagine the magnitude of that Maha Visnu. And yet it is said here that this Maha Visnu is but a plenary portion of the plenary portion of Krishna who is the original Govinda.
devarsi 2 years ago
the real ONE god in his formless form is Brahman.
Krishna is just a aspect of god.
topbluffa1 1 year ago
God has no form?...he has a form....even in his abode....if this video is claiming that God has no form...that is only one philosophical school in hinduism...but good video...
sonnyg121 2 years ago 2