Obama is a fucking RETARD! and im goddamn tired of people rubbing him in our fucking faces! he SUCKS PEOPLE! HE SUCKS! now shut the fuck UP! and dont get me wrong. the (other guy) sucked too! so shut up! THEY ALL SUCK! they are FUCKING MASTHEADS! they are JUST THERE TO LOOK PRETTY WHILE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES REALLY CONTROL US! god i cant believe people still think ONE MAN has the chance to actually CONTROL America! he DOESNT! it isnt THAT SIMPLE YOU DUMB FUCKERS! you voted for FLAIR!
To Ben, explain to me why you would insist on a government sponsored program, rather than a private plan that was regulated by the government. When a company screws up or is corrupt, people get fired, go to jail and are forced to repay. When the government screws up, at best someone doesn't get re-elected or gets pardoned by their party support, and it gets chalked up as "poor budget planning".
You want to hand over 1/6th of the Economy to the most fiscally irresponsible entity in the US?
Do you think government run healthcare mean a person in a special uniform takes the place of your doctor and now gives you sub-standard of care? LOL
ALL this is, is a plan that pays your own doctor like any other insurance company. So if your OLD doctor promotes death panels, he will continue to do so! LOL
If you thing our VA vets get substandard care, let me know! It's run by the government!
You need to get your info from other than the Ex-Healthcare Insurance CEO's! LOL
Umm, I'm not sure if you're joking or not... but the VA does have substandard health care. Most of the facilities are extremely outdated, and in South Florida three vets got AIDS because they even reused a needle. The paint is peeling off the building down here. Next you're going to tell me that the Post Office makes a profit???
Outdated? The VA had electronic medical records before they made up the word.
As for errors, every hospital system has errors, name a perfect one? Who takes care of more peps?
Remember the VA is run by the Military YOU LOVE! So you can't have it both ways where you appreciate their sacrifice then say they are idiot buffoons with their own healthcare. Or is that what you really want to say? Remember Fort Hood? Was it the governments fault OR a bunch of idiot higher-up Military doctors?
What does this have to do with Socialized Health Care? If all your arguments end with a criticism of Bush, then maybe you want this health plan for entirely non-logical reasons?
The higher cognitively functioning BARBARIANS usually can pick up at least 2 points from my posts:
1. It's time to get that GED you always wanted when you start to make up words and vocabulary
2. Socialized Healthcare is a Teabagger word and has nothing to do with the 21st Century. So calling it that gains no creditable respect form me. Additionally, blaming Bush is an execise in frustration for us since you can't fix what is wrong without acknowledging that it took place!
It's interesting to me that you would attempt to insult the people with GEDs since the majority of them are supporters of the Democrat party. "Socialized Healthcare" is a phrase, not a word. I would guess you're probably fairly young, maybe at best 20. No point really arguing with you since you don't even know what the last proposed bill even consists of.
2) How did I attack American spirit? "drinking the nectar"? My statements are usually clear and not cryptic. I commented on your demeaning attitude about liberals, Atheists and NWO. Give exact quotes I said.
3) We have no proof that they were not! Anyway, why not leave a comment then? Were they scared?
4) Point not clear. Please revise! You made sure I knew I was the BIG LOSER. Why invest so much for a dishonest system
What's foolish about what I said?....Ohh, just because you say it's foolish like an average GOP, makes it foolish!
Since you are under the impression that history has seen the likes of Obama before and knows his course, can you name the politician that gave you the "charismatic leader that will lead America to collapse" impression?
Remember, at some time America will lay down NEW HISTORY. You need to wake-up to 2009 instead of living in 1776!
Public Option just means theft on a national scale. Check out the bread lines of the old soviet union. That was the public option on food. When they lock your ass in the gulag because you cant pay the health CZAR your state mandated fees I hope you will remember you voted for this crap. More government control will not solve anything.
Canada has a public health care system (private if you want it) paid for by our taxes. Absolutely no interference in what health care is provided to me by my doctor/hospital. I have some questions for you:
1. Have you ever had to wait for weeks for an authorization from an insurance company? (I have never had to wait)
2. Have you ever been denied an authorization? (See above)
3. Have you had to wait for a specialist? (Yup)
4. Do you know anyone who has lost their health care? (NO WAY!!!!)
No health care lines here. There has to be a balance between "free fall capitalism" (your financial system went up in smoke & caused endless grief for your citizens and other countries) and "government regulations" - government doesn't control much up here - there are 4-5 elected political parties at the federal level which means the governing party has to compromise! No party gets to go "whole hog" - citizens would not stand for "control." We vote 'em out. Good old democracy!
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The reason I seem like your rump is because, Im the ONLY one that has held you accountable for your words.
Why use the words angry hordes or mobs when there is NOT ONE COMMENT TO EXAMPLIFY in a Liberal video? Exaggerating doesnt make you right; it makes you loose with the facts.
Mental disorder again? So because I and others disagree with you, we have a mental disorder? Once again, Facts to you are whatever seeps out your mouth.
Very immature and not an effective argument style!
What I find interesting (as an "outsider" to the health care debate, heck, ANY debate) is the absolute distrust of government a lot of Americans seem to have. Can someone explain?
Government is there to support citizens - laws, infrastructure, social programs. The gulag stuff from ibuylow09 is NOT my experience in Canada - it's my grandfather's experience in Russia. I don't trust private health care like I don't trust the banks...look what's happened in the States? Canada didn't have to rescue our banks because we have regulations that protect citizens. Not over-regulated but sensible regulations. Hope that helped.
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I have reviewed ALL of your comments on this matter
Obviously you have reached your limit on being held accountable for your words!
You initially misinterpreted my purpose for commenting ending in a yield. You leveled generalizations on Liberals, Atheists and NWO concerning their beliefs and vast numbers without examples or proof. You used charged words like hordes & angry. You charged me with being bias for these groups but could not find an example in the current Liberal Video
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Lastly, you refuse to understand I am a democrat. I have differing views on the death penalty, gun & national security rights YET, to YOU we are ALL the same. Although you have similar characteristics to GOP like broad generalizations, calling names and the unusual comfort of feeling right without proof, YOU separate yourself as a Conservative.
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A) Issue reconciled!
B)What does these groups generally believe the same stuff mean? Am I included?
C)Funny how you generalized me as having NO concept of numbers! If the TWO big FRINGE groups are Atheists & NWO, then WINOs should be balancing both. Unless NWO people are more wide spread than Atheists or WINOs. I used an algebraic balanced equation concept. Explain what higher form of math do you use for your facts.
D) Although, I am a Democrat, do you still feel I am a Liberal (As in your generalization in B & C)? Can you identify an Atheist or NWO person commenting on this video?
E)I get it! You were not making a point at all, you were seeking vengeance for some damage to your Ego! What is your political affiliation?
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A)Heres your hang-up: The ACT of commenting, does not mean to pick! Im just commenting with you. You would know if I was picking on you. When I pick , I exploit intellectual weaknesses in a multifocal way.
B)Funny, although GOP peg me to be liberal, I dont have the same beliefs as an Atheist or NWO person. How do you make that claim?
C)I agree, the fringe WINOs take such a large swath of Youtube, it would take TWO Liberal factions to balance!
D)Hence your feelings that I am an Liberal, Atheist and NWO which I am not- MYOPIC are we?
E)Does fighting fire with fire actually single me out to prove your point? Or does it prove we are the same, but YOU werent observant enough to realize? I find this mistake among many GOP!
B) How does Liberal comments cover ALL those different factions?
C) "I'm sure" is not a factual observation. I have not heard too many acclaimed atheists.
D)GOP thinks they are all Liberals-So?
E)Thanks for calling me a HACK & Stupid- Hypocrite
F)Correction: English Pros
For someone that regards MOST of Youtube to be respectful & Rosey, you came up with many divides. We can agree there are many more on the conservative side. NOT BALANCED!
I just like to pick at ignorance and racist remarks
You MUST be NEW to YouTube if you have not read scripts from the 1776ers, McCarthites, Birther's, Teabaggers and GOP Hate Group affiliates
There are lastly the W..I..N..O's- Wacky Christians In Name Only aka YouTube Christians. These are people who are fire & brimestone believers but don't practice charity or forgiveness in a hypocrite way.
As for English....I use multi-styles!
Not like straight highschool which you may be use to.
At a certain point, a president must own a presidency. For W. that point came 8months in, when 9/11 happened. From that point on, the presidency—all his decisions, all the credit and blame for them was his. The American people held him responsible for everything after it. Obama, in office a month longer than W was when 9/11 hit, now owns his presidency. It's his now. He gets the credit and the blame. Instead of campaigning and golfing he needs to get to work on the economy and Afghanistan.
We are taking steps towards Zimbawe. Seen Flint Mich. lately? Come on libs? I strongly disagree with you imposing you morality and budget on the entire country all under the guise of Health Care for all is a right! find it in the bill of rights. Its states issue not a federal mandate. 800 billion in ten years when have they ever kept to budget Use current trends it will be north of 1.5 T in 6years. Libs make a sensible argument-U cant its all about POWER!
Obama went before the Congress and promised the American people he would veto any bill that adds ONE CENT to the deficit. Clearly he was lying, and he knew it.
Obama has been the president for a while now. He is the one keeping troops in Iraq. He is the one who has tripled our national deficit in just nine months. He is the one who promised he would veto any healthcare bill that adds ONE CENT to the deficit.
America is the biggest socialist nation there ever was. I mean we all pay for roads. The poor pay less, but they still use them the same. I mean, police, firefighters, the library, I don't use any of that stuff, but somebody is using that aren't they. It's not me. I just pay for it, ain't that the case.
Just to throw some ice on your tiny liberal boners, the public option is a looooooooooong way off from being signed. Just wait until the CBO gets it's hands on this bill and hands you a staggering blow through cost estimates.
I covered a bunch of topics there, hope you liberals were holding on to something!
I will never support a public option health care system - I will however, contribute to your personal health care fund - If you will agree during the summer months of 2010 to come over and mow my yard at least once a week. Rate is negotiable.
* Hitler advertised the cost cutting methods required under the socialized-medicine concept of "Life unworthy of Life", publicly admitting its calculus, whereas Democrats lie about it.
* Hitler's socialized medical plans actively encouraged the propagation of the indigenous population. Contrarily, Democrats' encourage the self extermination of Americans through abortion; 50,000,000 since Roe v. Wade.
If Maine wants public health care, why don't they do something about it instead of whine to the feds? Create a public option in Maine where the majority want it. Last I heard, many other states don't want it. So how about we put this in individual states' hands instead of the federal's hands.
That actually ain't a bad idea. Of course, it would involve the people in those states being exempt from paying to the federal government for healthcare which would be tricky, but necessary.
Well, I have a quick solution to the folks in Maine who want the public option - move North a few hundred miles and sign up. Leave my health care alone. Sorry about the time you wasted working for a complete noob in the campaign.
That would be doing a disservice to the American Population, unpatriotic to just leave them suffer. For deserving people to be denied healthcare under the current system, To let America just let the costs bankrupt it's citizens, to have to choose being poor to stay alive when the right to life is one of the fundamental rights of the country. I'll be honest though, I'm thinking of leaving. At least then I'd be guaranteed health care.
It's just as unpatriotic to ask me to pay for your health care - You did not earn my money. It's my right to be charitable and give it to you of my own free will if I so choose - not to have it robbed from me by the IRS. And the last time I checked - the right to universal coverage was no where in the Bill of Rights. "Right to Life" - what a laugh - tell that to the children of this country who have died thanks to legalized abortion.
The Mass Media have been jackbooted getting their marching orders from the White House and have a black out of the truth. ObayMao has committed 40k new troops to the War on Fox News but its the peoples 1st amendment that suffers. His Net Neutrality will cut off free speech on the net. Even Helen Thomas says ObaMaos worse than Nixon. ObayMeCare will ration care, and cost each or us more than 4K a year and add 2 Trillion to the deficit. Chains you can believe in.
ObayMaos spending has put each American child in debt $345,000 and has done nothing for growth. Its a matter of record, OpayMe spent Trillions he didnt have on programs that led to 10% unemployment. Everyone out of a job today has ObayMao to thank. He is doing NOTHING to create growth or jobs. Its the economy stupid. Cut taxes, sell off GM and Crystal give tax credits to small business, balance trade, support the dollar, theres a ton of things that arent being done to grow our economy.
Bush essentially did what you wanted for the past 8 years. Cut Taxes for everyone! BLANK CHECKS for the WAR! NO regulations as far as the eye could see AND OIL, OIL and more OIL!
SCHOOLS & ERs were still closing
Foreclosures on homes & businesses still happening
Unemployment didnt just go from 4 to 10% under Obama. It was in the high 8s or early 9s
4000 GREAT AMERICANS DEAD OR INJURED
If we elected Bush instead of Obama:
Each child in debt $145K and raising, more dead and WORSE!
Yesterday I posted a simple message stating that cheney and bush did not care bit about Afghanistan, so they are not in a position to criticize Pres. Obama on this issue.
Guess what! I got about 10 hateful insulting replies without any content.
If this is the republican way of making politics then the republican party has fallen low... very low... one could compare them to the nazis, who also insulted and intimidated everyone who did not share their point of views.
I'll post a response to this, cause I know where this is going, but I want to put in in actual English and want to be first. There is the argument that Obama is doing this with health care, nazi tactics. But is there a difference? There is if Obama is trying to prove his point. If an insult is true, than is it rude to use it? Of course one should be prepared to prove the insult is true. Arguments in general should be based on fact.
I think I figured it out!!! Texas hates it, but maine loves it. The further north you are, the more socialist you are. Just look at Canada. Still don't believe me? Sweden is Socialist. In the US, it's north v. South again. History tends to repeat itself.
No, you just keep wondering this world in your liberal haze.....blah blah blah. You need me to educate you? You're already being a loafing fat bastard trolling on youtube, might as well do some research yourself.
Usually GOPers go a few rounds against my arguments before going to the next phase: Concession!
GOPers cant say you have a good point, NO.They bow out by hurling insults that have nothing to do with the conversation, as if youre distracted from them NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION!
Its like an 8 year olds tantrum.
This was the mentality running the country for the past 8 years!
Don't hold your breath, by your response I can tell your somewhat of a blabbermouth. Either way, the special interest groups, like the ones that produced this video - have alienated the rest of the senate from ever passing this bill. I guess our discussion is over now.
Thanks Joe Lieberman!
Another Obama/Liberal Failure, no surprise any longer.
Guess you don't watch the news, I envision you as a guy who's about to get kicked out of the public library and return back to his van down by the river..
come on buddy, you are proving your level of ignorance by admitting to me that you didn't see the news today that Harry Reid's plan is going nowhere in the senate with or without at trigger.
I suppose it's all relative, you, having no health insurance or the money to afford adequate coverage look to blame somebody else for your problem. America was founded by righteous men who believed in limited government and free market economics, not the whipping boy you see as our President today. America wins, historically speaking, when politicians who stray from our Constitution fail. That person today is Barack Obama, and the people that follow him are only slaves of their own failures.
What about the person that was layed off...their problem?
They foreclose in your neighborhood, will your housing prices go up?
We have Vets who are homeless, their problem, RIGHT. They risked their lives for you. Some repayment, with the old GOP......I gotz mine!
Your last sentence makes no sense...I'm a slave of my own failures since I agree with Obama? I know not to make the same mistakes twice- Run the country like Bush again and that will make America's THIRD TIME!
I'm not going to answer any of that other than saying your a fool. The gaps in your paragraph, combined with your aggressive punctuation style say a lot about you. You have nothing more than a loose grasp on most political concepts, you seem to be fueled more by jealousy and rage than anything logical. Conceptually, you have trouble materializing what it is you actually believe in - you just know you hate Bush and the damn Conservatives. You know what I mean by failures, you are one.
What you DON'T understand is that I'm your conscience AND I'm filling the gaps in your thinking. Dont like the alternatives to I gotz mine, F**k You, Youre on your own! Thats what America is about?
My political knowledge weak? Because Im wise enough not to template ALL of 1776 to 2009?
As for jealousy & rage? You just say that to make your own misguided selfishness more palatable.
Bush failed for 8yrs, why is it ONLY my failure? Because I didn't vote for him TWICE like you did?
Anyone who reads my responses knows that I was awake 8yrs ago and disliked Bushs reign.
Trying to minimize my legitimate comparisons by turning it into an obsession doesnt work since YOU HAVING SELECTIVE AMNESIA for those years is equally WRONG!
Instead of the GOP jamming their fingers in their ears going la la la like brats, they need to own it and understand Bush set the stage for this 2009 Presidential Play.
Unlike BoldProgressives usual videos filled with phony actors and BS stories, this guy is actually real. He lives in Lewiston, not Portland though. He graduated from Clark University in '06, and is a big supporter of the ME Democratic Party. There are no political donations made from his home town, but I have a feeling he's the Ben Katz from Cambridge, MA who actually donated to Hillary this year and Kerry in '04. There was a donation from a Ben B Katz in 08 to Obama, this guys MI is an A =)
The fallacy behind taxing it is that the whole purpose of legalizing it is to allow people freedom and it would cut off some cash from gangs. But, if we taxed it, it would just stay underground and people would illegally obtain it rather than pay the taxes. There are a lot of people out there trying to make their own cigarettes to not pay taxes, which is legal as long as you don't sell them.
The public option is feared by republicans because it will eliminate the main reason poor and middle class men and women "volunteer" for the military - health care for their families.
I suggest you immediately find a US Marine and tell him why you think he joined up. (Better get some good catastrophic health insurance first though.)
"Protect and defend" your self-interests. I live in a military town. I was raised by a career serviceman and I am not in la-la land about the military being a culture of self-sacrifice. It's a career - period. My dad joined so he could have three square meals a day and learn to be a mechanic. He retired as an officer and is enjoying his full retirement benefits. The great benefits you receive are paid for by American tax dollars. If you weren't offered great benefits you wouldn't have joined.
its messed up, our ELECTED officials are supposed to be loyal to the interests of the people who chose them, not the interests of the people of there party. The government has almost completly forgotten the main reason they exist.
From the signs and talk I heard from the Ignorant BECK Teabagger YouTube videos......Obama looked nothing like any President or Politician we've seen.
I think there are two driving forces. First, he is black. Second, the right-wing attacks on the president started under Clinton. The often had no basis in reality or were exagerated.
If you tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth. Think about Obama and if he is a citizen. There are a large % of Republicans that are not sure or believe he is not a citizen.
Tyler, dude, you gotta get on board the Zero Express. If the car insurance companies won't let you get coverage for a pre-existing wreck I say we get the Feds to *make* them do it. Think how much money we'll save if we just wait until after the accident to get full coverage! Have a wreck, hop on the iPhone and viola, covered. Soon as the problem is paid for you can drop the coverage.
Probably ought to check my profile and videos. I'm 49, Im married (20 years in December), write software for a living and I've had a couple of cars "totaled" in my misspent youth. I was given fair market value in both cases because I carried full coverage.
Were you trying to make some kind of point or do you just like the sound of your own typing?
I have a preexisting condition, and I do not want the government involved in my healthcare. Say no to the public option, and no to new health care taxes and mandates.
Mr. Obama: The public option is not just a "sliver" of health care reform, it is the most important, the PILLAR OF HEALTH CARE REFORM.
It is as simple as pie:
NO cost control mechanism (Strong Public Option) + Individual mandate + Fine (fee) = Another bailout bill for the private insurance industry (to the tune of hundred of billions of dollars EVERY YEAR!)
Show your audacity of hope/ change by leadership, not just empty campaign promises/slogans!
President Obama: It's Time To Acknowledge Reality.
Now that your fraudulent marketing campaign, with its happy-sounding slogans, are getting filled in with truckloads of legislative ink, America is resoundingly rejecting your socialist putsch.
Ever since your victory on 9/11, your kind has aided your Muslim comrades. You betray classified war programs, advocate for the enemy using congress and the courts, slander US Marines & US contractors, and all while distracting from your treason by trying to criminalize the act of national defense.
You talk like an outsider from the perspective of Hamas and The Taliban
Your the type of person that HELPS the slander by turning a blind eye when women are being raped and monies being stolen (ie Halliburton)
Your the type to support an Admin that went to war for unclear reasons for their target has still not been captured, underfunded our troops to the point they needed buy their OWN FLAP JACKETS. Approved when the VA stood there RAT INFESTED.
Profile#3: GOP sees the trees but forgets the forest!
You were so concerned with me not using the word BODY ARMOR that the big picture of our troops and VA being underfunded by a hypocrite PRO-WAR Adm goes way over your Obtuse Moron head!
My profile of GOP also dictates I will ALWAYS be AT LEAST one step ahead of YOU :)
Whenever their growing list of treason and betrayals are stuck right up against their snout, the Democrat will avoid the topic. Often by pretending they give a rats ass about US troops, as if there's anyone stupid enough to believe the Code Stink party after their last 8 years of betrayal and treason.
Sorry, public option was not part of the campaign.
This sham is no better than republicans or fox news.
ratty88 10 months ago
Obama is a fucking RETARD! and im goddamn tired of people rubbing him in our fucking faces! he SUCKS PEOPLE! HE SUCKS! now shut the fuck UP! and dont get me wrong. the (other guy) sucked too! so shut up! THEY ALL SUCK! they are FUCKING MASTHEADS! they are JUST THERE TO LOOK PRETTY WHILE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES REALLY CONTROL US! god i cant believe people still think ONE MAN has the chance to actually CONTROL America! he DOESNT! it isnt THAT SIMPLE YOU DUMB FUCKERS! you voted for FLAIR!
SatansMullet 1 year ago
To Ben, explain to me why you would insist on a government sponsored program, rather than a private plan that was regulated by the government. When a company screws up or is corrupt, people get fired, go to jail and are forced to repay. When the government screws up, at best someone doesn't get re-elected or gets pardoned by their party support, and it gets chalked up as "poor budget planning".
You want to hand over 1/6th of the Economy to the most fiscally irresponsible entity in the US?
Todd82TA 2 years ago
You said it.... YES WE WILL !!!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
Amazing!
Do you think government run healthcare mean a person in a special uniform takes the place of your doctor and now gives you sub-standard of care? LOL
ALL this is, is a plan that pays your own doctor like any other insurance company. So if your OLD doctor promotes death panels, he will continue to do so! LOL
If you thing our VA vets get substandard care, let me know! It's run by the government!
You need to get your info from other than the Ex-Healthcare Insurance CEO's! LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Umm, I'm not sure if you're joking or not... but the VA does have substandard health care. Most of the facilities are extremely outdated, and in South Florida three vets got AIDS because they even reused a needle. The paint is peeling off the building down here. Next you're going to tell me that the Post Office makes a profit???
Todd82TA 2 years ago
Outdated? The VA had electronic medical records before they made up the word.
As for errors, every hospital system has errors, name a perfect one? Who takes care of more peps?
Remember the VA is run by the Military YOU LOVE! So you can't have it both ways where you appreciate their sacrifice then say they are idiot buffoons with their own healthcare. Or is that what you really want to say? Remember Fort Hood? Was it the governments fault OR a bunch of idiot higher-up Military doctors?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
The swastika and hammer/sickle have been used by Teabaggers to describe Obama! Obama's rainbow is harmless.
Playing on America's fear and anxieties are serious!
During his campaign many people wore Obama symbols and not ONE HAD THESE COMPLAINTS!
The atmosphere is ripe now for loons like you to exploit paranoid themes about Obama.
My fears and anxieties run on a logical path.
NOT FRAGMENTED ASSOCIATIONS that began in 2009!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
What you need to ASK YOURSELF: Why are you refusing something that will increase your well being and life
Most educated and health professionals know yearly check-ups and preventative care is good!
Nobody will be telling you to switch. Why has that not computed with you!
The Healthcare Reform is meant to save us from DYING FROM STUPIDITY.
Since you are stupid....I don't want to see you die!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Did the tax cuts and corporate success stop Bush from handing Obama a recession? THINK!
Bush 's War more positive than negative?
-Dropping the ball on terrorism before 9/11?
-45days of clearing Brush?
-Dismantling a country that was not involved with 9/11?
-Master mind still at large?
-3000 of our soldiers dead and growing?
-Endless Blank checks for Bush's War?
-$80 Billion unaccounted for in Iraq?
Positive?? THINK!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
What does this have to do with Socialized Health Care? If all your arguments end with a criticism of Bush, then maybe you want this health plan for entirely non-logical reasons?
Todd82TA 2 years ago
Speedy.....you may want to hold-off on the big words!....NON-logical?=illogical. LOL
What does this VIDEO have to do with Socialized Healthcare?
GOT MILK? / GOT BRAINS?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
So, what you're saying is, you have no response to this?
Todd82TA 2 years ago
The higher cognitively functioning BARBARIANS usually can pick up at least 2 points from my posts:
1. It's time to get that GED you always wanted when you start to make up words and vocabulary
2. Socialized Healthcare is a Teabagger word and has nothing to do with the 21st Century. So calling it that gains no creditable respect form me. Additionally, blaming Bush is an execise in frustration for us since you can't fix what is wrong without acknowledging that it took place!
GET IT SPEEDY
downthedrain08 2 years ago
It's interesting to me that you would attempt to insult the people with GEDs since the majority of them are supporters of the Democrat party. "Socialized Healthcare" is a phrase, not a word. I would guess you're probably fairly young, maybe at best 20. No point really arguing with you since you don't even know what the last proposed bill even consists of.
Todd82TA 2 years ago
I guess the WORD "Non-logical" blew over your head! LOL
Is this "Socialized Medicine" any different from the framework Republican Chuck Grassly proposed?.....Then walked away from
Your right! Most Dems have GED's and College degrees.
If you are a GOPer you likely have no degrees since being educated is elitest
If you are a Teabagger......well you can't be educated if you believe looking back at 1776 will take you into the future! LMAO
downthedrain08 2 years ago
You do understand that YOUR examples of Obama propaganda are WEAK and are mere marketing tools!
My examples about Bush were serious and played on America's fears, anxieties and hopes.
I have more serious examples if you wish to continue this stupid propaganda angle for the ignorant.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Your logic does not flow in a linear fashion. Why would you be imprisoned? Did you forget to mention the fine you refused to pay?
The same imprisonment YOU WOULDNT COMPLAIN ABOUT WHEN YOU DONT PAY YOUR PARKING TICKETS!
Whats the upside of NOT HAVING A HEALTHCARE PLAN?
Freedom?
The same freedom when you irresponsibly ride your motorcycle without a helmet or drive without a seat belt?
You make GOOD KID SENSE, not ADULT or common sense!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
What's the TRUE intent of his policies?
What things Obama wants that AMERICANS is NOT comfortable with?
What is Obama doing that AMERICA did not elect him for? Remember MANDATE60/40%?
What are Obama's "Propanganda Tactics" and was it worse that Bush's?
Remember falsely elevating threat levels or Mission Accomplished or the propaganda proof that got us to WAR!
Are you and I on the same planet?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Do you think Obama parallels Hitler?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
FUNNY,
I never got that breeze from Bush & McCain!
Did you? If not.....
WHO REALLY BENEFITTED FROM BUSH & MCCAIN?
Yours will be an interesting answer!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I disagree!
Obama was elected because NOTHING's like Bush & McCain were not good enough anymore!
GOP & Conservs stand for NOTHING!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I'd rather have my reference point be America....
We are talking about American History..Right?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
We Demos & Libs will be right there to remind everyone what GOP & Conserv ACTUALLY DID WHEN ASKED TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS......Nothing or Gimmicks!
GOP & Conservs will be the default party of ineffectiveness
As useful as a bunch of clowns! LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
NEW HISTORY: We are closer than ever to passing a Healthcare Reform Bill in 40 years!
NEW HISTORY: Healthcare passes in the Senate and is signed into law by the President around Thanksgiving!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Come back 6 days later, probably frying your 2 brain cells over this!
News has past.....Healthcare is 50% done! Senate in a week or so.
Step it up and catch-up!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Point by point
1) Point not clear. Suggest revise!
2) How did I attack American spirit? "drinking the nectar"? My statements are usually clear and not cryptic. I commented on your demeaning attitude about liberals, Atheists and NWO. Give exact quotes I said.
3) We have no proof that they were not! Anyway, why not leave a comment then? Were they scared?
4) Point not clear. Please revise! You made sure I knew I was the BIG LOSER. Why invest so much for a dishonest system
I smell corruption!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
YES HE CAN, ruin us
vince6363 2 years ago
Can't hear....You sound garbled!
Take your head out of Beck's crouch and speak SLOW and CLEAR.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
take Obama's cock out of your ear! YES WE CAN hahahahaaha
vince6363 2 years ago
I get it!
That's why you couldn't hear my last few posts about YES YOU CAN pass the GED after your 5th attempt hahahaaha
Beck's cock was in your ears, nose and throat! LOL
You'll be sucking EXTRAHARD Fri or Mon after the NEW Healthcare Reform Bill passes! Ta Ta!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Great bout time i get some welfare too!!!
YES U CAN SUCK OBAMAS BALLS!!!! HAHAHA
vince6363 2 years ago
whats gonna happen fri or mon?
vince6363 2 years ago
FOX NEWS wants to cover-up that we vote on the Senate Healthcare Bill on Saturday.
That's why YOU were in the DARK. Sorry!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
yea that and the tea gaggers march by the turd nation is in the closet like yourself "son of sam"
vince6363 2 years ago
I agree with you on the "Tea gaggers"
downthedrain08 2 years ago
alright!!!
vince6363 2 years ago
Wow!
Why would someone give you a +1 for calling out the idiot Tea gaggers?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
in the dark too huh come out of closet turd nations proteset ya know tea gaggers march, duh
vince6363 2 years ago
I tolerate your insults in appreciation for giving me a NEW WORD!
Tea gaggers!......I luv it! Thanks!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
btw thats 2 words
vince6363 2 years ago
What's foolish about what I said?....Ohh, just because you say it's foolish like an average GOP, makes it foolish!
Since you are under the impression that history has seen the likes of Obama before and knows his course, can you name the politician that gave you the "charismatic leader that will lead America to collapse" impression?
Remember, at some time America will lay down NEW HISTORY. You need to wake-up to 2009 instead of living in 1776!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Point by point
1) If it was NOT CREDITABLE WHY MAKE IT CREDITABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Where do you and your cronies hang out?
2) What was RUDE about my comments?.....answer that! Obviously GOP were the ONLY ones who voted. Few Demos invest in this flawed system
3) Simple, GOP dislike the TRUTH!
4) Funny how you are investing so much in this system, YET YOU describe it as dishonest and don't use it!
I smell a stinking Hypocrite!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Yeah, figures we are in America and NOW we need to hear about Germany's past.
You can give me BS about "history repeats itself" but it only goes so far.....when does America lay down NEW history! Did we start ON 11/8/08!
You're too stuck in the past!
America is moving in a different direction than we ever saw in the past!
Think about it, 40 years WITHOUT Healthcare Reform
This week Healthcare Reform!
WHERE IN YOUR OLD-ASS HISTORY WAS THIS!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Oops!......sorry! I thought I was smelling YOU for a moment! LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Funny irony!
Quote someone from the 1890's and has a label "MODERN"!
AND OF COURSE ALL THIS SOCIAL DISCOURSE DEVEOPED SINCE OBAMA BECAME PRESIDENT!
Hint: you would get more credit if you kept your ideological templating to THIS CENTURY!
Take it back to the wood shed! LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Only a High School dropout could BELIEVE YOUR version of this assessment. Thumbs up or down has TOO MANY foils to make it statistically sound
1 YOU or YOUR CRONIES came in to vote
2 Large negatives ie (-6) accumulated on my last 4 responses. Clearly not consistant
3 I even received a large negative (-4) after giving a helpful comment to a new person
4 NO ONE can accurately identify the intent of Thumbs UP or down
Congratulations for FOOLING me to think that you were beyond a GED!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Public Option just means theft on a national scale. Check out the bread lines of the old soviet union. That was the public option on food. When they lock your ass in the gulag because you cant pay the health CZAR your state mandated fees I hope you will remember you voted for this crap. More government control will not solve anything.
ibuylow09 2 years ago
Canada has a public health care system (private if you want it) paid for by our taxes. Absolutely no interference in what health care is provided to me by my doctor/hospital. I have some questions for you:
1. Have you ever had to wait for weeks for an authorization from an insurance company? (I have never had to wait)
2. Have you ever been denied an authorization? (See above)
3. Have you had to wait for a specialist? (Yup)
4. Do you know anyone who has lost their health care? (NO WAY!!!!)
mollycanadian 2 years ago
No health care lines here. There has to be a balance between "free fall capitalism" (your financial system went up in smoke & caused endless grief for your citizens and other countries) and "government regulations" - government doesn't control much up here - there are 4-5 elected political parties at the federal level which means the governing party has to compromise! No party gets to go "whole hog" - citizens would not stand for "control." We vote 'em out. Good old democracy!
mollycanadian 2 years ago
PUBLIC OPTION and new Healthcare Reform will be alive next week.
You better follow your GOP handlers and descend on Washington DC!
I can taste the change BEFORE THANKSGIVING! AntiAmerican SUCKERS!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
YES WE CAN, hahaha make the deficit higher, dont go away mad just go away!!!!
vince6363 2 years ago
""yes you can" get that GED after your 5th try! AND YES YOU CAN take Beck's balls out of your mouth now....
GOT BRAINS?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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The reason I seem like your rump is because, Im the ONLY one that has held you accountable for your words.
Why use the words angry hordes or mobs when there is NOT ONE COMMENT TO EXAMPLIFY in a Liberal video? Exaggerating doesnt make you right; it makes you loose with the facts.
Mental disorder again? So because I and others disagree with you, we have a mental disorder? Once again, Facts to you are whatever seeps out your mouth.
Very immature and not an effective argument style!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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Some Conservative behavior just seem to state the obvious:
What Americans are not freedom loving? I also never understood why conservatives at rallies chant USA, USA and they are standing in.the USA!
Makes better sense to chant this in Europe, Asia or the Middle East! Maybe they are under the delusion that they are the ONLY Americans
or MOST? American!
I also love the altruistic attitude to protect ALL speech but YET EASY to judge what is American or UnAmerican
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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Mental disorder? Thats a RUSH line!
Facts to you are whatever seeps from your mouth. No examples or proof, just talk.
Why would people that run on logic listen? The Public Option could be as stupid as you want it, what you should know,
expect to eat your Thanksgiving meal drinking the nectar of a New Healthcare Reform.
As YOU put it- You seem to be more annoyed than I!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
What I find interesting (as an "outsider" to the health care debate, heck, ANY debate) is the absolute distrust of government a lot of Americans seem to have. Can someone explain?
mollycanadian 2 years ago
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I can expalin one view if you let me know what you think Government is and what it's suppose to do
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Government is there to support citizens - laws, infrastructure, social programs. The gulag stuff from ibuylow09 is NOT my experience in Canada - it's my grandfather's experience in Russia. I don't trust private health care like I don't trust the banks...look what's happened in the States? Canada didn't have to rescue our banks because we have regulations that protect citizens. Not over-regulated but sensible regulations. Hope that helped.
mollycanadian 2 years ago
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I have reviewed ALL of your comments on this matter
Obviously you have reached your limit on being held accountable for your words!
You initially misinterpreted my purpose for commenting ending in a yield. You leveled generalizations on Liberals, Atheists and NWO concerning their beliefs and vast numbers without examples or proof. You used charged words like hordes & angry. You charged me with being bias for these groups but could not find an example in the current Liberal Video
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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FortyforHim Continued
Lastly, you refuse to understand I am a democrat. I have differing views on the death penalty, gun & national security rights YET, to YOU we are ALL the same. Although you have similar characteristics to GOP like broad generalizations, calling names and the unusual comfort of feeling right without proof, YOU separate yourself as a Conservative.
Do you really know who you are?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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B) I forgive newbies!
C) So we agree to disagree on facts you cant prove. Interesting!
D) Since you cant find an Atheist or NWO person on this video, do we do your agree to disagree bit! Wink, Wink!
E) Wow! So now Im a twit and talk bull. I guess I would be wrong to lump you with the GOP EVEN THOUGH YOU LUMP ME WITH ALL THE LIBERALS.
Funny how conservatives work!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
twenty three trillion of OUR "federal reserve notes" are "missing"
that would pay for a lot of HC
audit the "federal" reserve before there is nothing to audit
there is no higher priority-the existing system is broken
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
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A) Issue reconciled!
B)What does these groups generally believe the same stuff mean? Am I included?
C)Funny how you generalized me as having NO concept of numbers! If the TWO big FRINGE groups are Atheists & NWO, then WINOs should be balancing both. Unless NWO people are more wide spread than Atheists or WINOs. I used an algebraic balanced equation concept. Explain what higher form of math do you use for your facts.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
FortyforHim Continued:
D) Although, I am a Democrat, do you still feel I am a Liberal (As in your generalization in B & C)? Can you identify an Atheist or NWO person commenting on this video?
E)I get it! You were not making a point at all, you were seeking vengeance for some damage to your Ego! What is your political affiliation?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
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A)Heres your hang-up: The ACT of commenting, does not mean to pick! Im just commenting with you. You would know if I was picking on you. When I pick , I exploit intellectual weaknesses in a multifocal way.
B)Funny, although GOP peg me to be liberal, I dont have the same beliefs as an Atheist or NWO person. How do you make that claim?
C)I agree, the fringe WINOs take such a large swath of Youtube, it would take TWO Liberal factions to balance!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
FortyForHim Continued:
D)Hence your feelings that I am an Liberal, Atheist and NWO which I am not- MYOPIC are we?
E)Does fighting fire with fire actually single me out to prove your point? Or does it prove we are the same, but YOU werent observant enough to realize? I find this mistake among many GOP!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
A) Paranoid: No one said your remarks were such
B) How does Liberal comments cover ALL those different factions?
C) "I'm sure" is not a factual observation. I have not heard too many acclaimed atheists.
D)GOP thinks they are all Liberals-So?
E)Thanks for calling me a HACK & Stupid- Hypocrite
F)Correction: English Pros
For someone that regards MOST of Youtube to be respectful & Rosey, you came up with many divides. We can agree there are many more on the conservative side. NOT BALANCED!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I just like to pick at ignorance and racist remarks
You MUST be NEW to YouTube if you have not read scripts from the 1776ers, McCarthites, Birther's, Teabaggers and GOP Hate Group affiliates
There are lastly the W..I..N..O's- Wacky Christians In Name Only aka YouTube Christians. These are people who are fire & brimestone believers but don't practice charity or forgiveness in a hypocrite way.
As for English....I use multi-styles!
Not like straight highschool which you may be use to.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
At a certain point, a president must own a presidency. For W. that point came 8months in, when 9/11 happened. From that point on, the presidency—all his decisions, all the credit and blame for them was his. The American people held him responsible for everything after it. Obama, in office a month longer than W was when 9/11 hit, now owns his presidency. It's his now. He gets the credit and the blame. Instead of campaigning and golfing he needs to get to work on the economy and Afghanistan.
dkkght46 2 years ago
Hence YOUR ASSUMPTION....
You know the saying....
Do we need to really argue who's the ASS in this one?
Wasn't my since A....+B....then obviously Z
downthedrain08 2 years ago
paid for by the PCCC? ok that doesnt sound commie at all
grodspc 2 years ago
I like the Teabagger video's better...
They say Paid for by the KKK! :)
downthedrain08 2 years ago
We are taking steps towards Zimbawe. Seen Flint Mich. lately? Come on libs? I strongly disagree with you imposing you morality and budget on the entire country all under the guise of Health Care for all is a right! find it in the bill of rights. Its states issue not a federal mandate. 800 billion in ten years when have they ever kept to budget Use current trends it will be north of 1.5 T in 6years. Libs make a sensible argument-U cant its all about POWER!
bucki09er 2 years ago
Obama went before the Congress and promised the American people he would veto any bill that adds ONE CENT to the deficit. Clearly he was lying, and he knew it.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
If you got ONE CENT for all the lies Bush gave you for the last 8 years you would have enough to pay off the deficit!
LOOK IN YOUR REARVIEW, SOMETHING IS CATCHING-UP!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Obama has been the president for a while now. He is the one keeping troops in Iraq. He is the one who has tripled our national deficit in just nine months. He is the one who promised he would veto any healthcare bill that adds ONE CENT to the deficit.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
What's a "while" in a 4 year term 9mo's?
When Bush cleared Brush for 46days and enjoyed golf while we were at WAR for MANY MORE was that a "while"?
YOU are the one who never listened when Obama explained what mess we were in and why we needed to spend
YOU understood why we needed healthcare reform but didn't say a word over the last 8yrs forgotten
When you see a President accomplish what could not be done in 40 YEARS, don't you seem like a whining cry baby over a CENT as to the good?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
"yes he can" raise the deficit, sorry yet numnuts?
vince6363 2 years ago
"yes you can" get that GED after your 5th try!
GOT BRAINS?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Pssst...Your lack of credibility is showing. And your wild accusations are dripping right off the tip of it. Just wanted to let you know.
MulligansValley 2 years ago
You have assessed me with;
1. Having NO creditability
2. Making WILD accusations
3. TIP OF WHAT?
Pssst: Your arguments don't get better by JUST CALLING NAMES!
What did I say to make you think that?
I wonder who really has the credibility problem. LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
America is the biggest socialist nation there ever was. I mean we all pay for roads. The poor pay less, but they still use them the same. I mean, police, firefighters, the library, I don't use any of that stuff, but somebody is using that aren't they. It's not me. I just pay for it, ain't that the case.
fdkffk 2 years ago
Just to throw some ice on your tiny liberal boners, the public option is a looooooooooong way off from being signed. Just wait until the CBO gets it's hands on this bill and hands you a staggering blow through cost estimates.
I covered a bunch of topics there, hope you liberals were holding on to something!
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
I will never support a public option health care system - I will however, contribute to your personal health care fund - If you will agree during the summer months of 2010 to come over and mow my yard at least once a week. Rate is negotiable.
rainyskies42 2 years ago
Democrats are NOT Nazis ...
* Hitler advertised the cost cutting methods required under the socialized-medicine concept of "Life unworthy of Life", publicly admitting its calculus, whereas Democrats lie about it.
* Hitler's socialized medical plans actively encouraged the propagation of the indigenous population. Contrarily, Democrats' encourage the self extermination of Americans through abortion; 50,000,000 since Roe v. Wade.
TylerNull 2 years ago
I agree with the point your trying to make....
It's like me wanting to hear a liberal on FOX NEWS.........TURN ON JUAN WILLIAMS.......
He's not a REAL Liberal, just a token!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
If Maine wants public health care, why don't they do something about it instead of whine to the feds? Create a public option in Maine where the majority want it. Last I heard, many other states don't want it. So how about we put this in individual states' hands instead of the federal's hands.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
But that would mean actually following the Constitution.
Freethought42 2 years ago 2
That actually ain't a bad idea. Of course, it would involve the people in those states being exempt from paying to the federal government for healthcare which would be tricky, but necessary.
fdkffk 2 years ago
If we move all the health care programs to the states, then no one would have to pay to the federal government.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
Well, I have a quick solution to the folks in Maine who want the public option - move North a few hundred miles and sign up. Leave my health care alone. Sorry about the time you wasted working for a complete noob in the campaign.
rainyskies42 2 years ago
That would be doing a disservice to the American Population, unpatriotic to just leave them suffer. For deserving people to be denied healthcare under the current system, To let America just let the costs bankrupt it's citizens, to have to choose being poor to stay alive when the right to life is one of the fundamental rights of the country. I'll be honest though, I'm thinking of leaving. At least then I'd be guaranteed health care.
fdkffk 2 years ago
It's just as unpatriotic to ask me to pay for your health care - You did not earn my money. It's my right to be charitable and give it to you of my own free will if I so choose - not to have it robbed from me by the IRS. And the last time I checked - the right to universal coverage was no where in the Bill of Rights. "Right to Life" - what a laugh - tell that to the children of this country who have died thanks to legalized abortion.
rainyskies42 2 years ago
"I voted for Obama, so why isn't everything free now?"
warman58 2 years ago 2
OBAMA needs to wake up...
...America Needs a Leader NOW...NOT four years from now...
...Public Option, or I do NOT even consider voting for him in 2012.
treid100182 2 years ago
The Mass Media have been jackbooted getting their marching orders from the White House and have a black out of the truth. ObayMao has committed 40k new troops to the War on Fox News but its the peoples 1st amendment that suffers. His Net Neutrality will cut off free speech on the net. Even Helen Thomas says ObaMaos worse than Nixon. ObayMeCare will ration care, and cost each or us more than 4K a year and add 2 Trillion to the deficit. Chains you can believe in.
JoeJeffersonn 2 years ago
AND who was Nixon affilated with?.....
GOP!
So why should American trust you now?
Learned from your mistakes?
What did the GOP learn in the last 8 years!
GOP.....the DEFAULT choice in 2012!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
F the progressive GOP and F the Liberal Dems. Stop the corruption and vote for people willing to stop the spending. Kill the Bill!
JoeJeffersonn 2 years ago
Yeah!
Stop the spending!...Kill growth!
Kill the Bill!....Watch them die in the streets!
Doing nothing and spending nothing will solve ALL America's problems!
Yeah, RIGHT!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
ObayMaos spending has put each American child in debt $345,000 and has done nothing for growth. Its a matter of record, OpayMe spent Trillions he didnt have on programs that led to 10% unemployment. Everyone out of a job today has ObayMao to thank. He is doing NOTHING to create growth or jobs. Its the economy stupid. Cut taxes, sell off GM and Crystal give tax credits to small business, balance trade, support the dollar, theres a ton of things that arent being done to grow our economy.
JoeJeffersonn 2 years ago
Bush essentially did what you wanted for the past 8 years. Cut Taxes for everyone! BLANK CHECKS for the WAR! NO regulations as far as the eye could see AND OIL, OIL and more OIL!
SCHOOLS & ERs were still closing
Foreclosures on homes & businesses still happening
Unemployment didnt just go from 4 to 10% under Obama. It was in the high 8s or early 9s
4000 GREAT AMERICANS DEAD OR INJURED
If we elected Bush instead of Obama:
Each child in debt $145K and raising, more dead and WORSE!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Yesterday I posted a simple message stating that cheney and bush did not care bit about Afghanistan, so they are not in a position to criticize Pres. Obama on this issue.
Guess what! I got about 10 hateful insulting replies without any content.
If this is the republican way of making politics then the republican party has fallen low... very low... one could compare them to the nazis, who also insulted and intimidated everyone who did not share their point of views.
gazai1 2 years ago
I'll post a response to this, cause I know where this is going, but I want to put in in actual English and want to be first. There is the argument that Obama is doing this with health care, nazi tactics. But is there a difference? There is if Obama is trying to prove his point. If an insult is true, than is it rude to use it? Of course one should be prepared to prove the insult is true. Arguments in general should be based on fact.
fdkffk 2 years ago
So prove your insult!....
We are ready to hear what secrets you have learned from YOUR NAZI STUDIES!
GO GOP!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
WTF you people in Maine are thinking??
siasina 2 years ago
I think I figured it out!!! Texas hates it, but maine loves it. The further north you are, the more socialist you are. Just look at Canada. Still don't believe me? Sweden is Socialist. In the US, it's north v. South again. History tends to repeat itself.
fdkffk 2 years ago
Just another little fact.
The public option...it's going to be run by a private company =)
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Just another little fact....
Medicare....it's run by a private company called Noridian
YOUR POINT?
GOT BRAINS?
LOOK IN YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR IDIOT!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Better check your facts there dufus.......Noridian is a 3rd party administrator that has restricted authority to even make small decisions.
You are really a dumb dumb - and the most telling clue is that you actually took the time to post a wrong bit of information. Oh so proud of you!
DOPE
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
What's wrong with what I said......
What's an ADMINISTRATOR? and how do you know they have restricted authority.....they service ALL the Doctors!
Since I'm dumb, educate me! Who is the private company that's going to RUN the PUBLIC OPTION?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
No, you just keep wondering this world in your liberal haze.....blah blah blah. You need me to educate you? You're already being a loafing fat bastard trolling on youtube, might as well do some research yourself.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Wow! Im surprised you conceded so quick!
Usually GOPers go a few rounds against my arguments before going to the next phase: Concession!
GOPers cant say you have a good point, NO.They bow out by hurling insults that have nothing to do with the conversation, as if youre distracted from them NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION!
Its like an 8 year olds tantrum.
This was the mentality running the country for the past 8 years!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Don't hold your breath, by your response I can tell your somewhat of a blabbermouth. Either way, the special interest groups, like the ones that produced this video - have alienated the rest of the senate from ever passing this bill. I guess our discussion is over now.
Thanks Joe Lieberman!
Another Obama/Liberal Failure, no surprise any longer.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Yeah! An alternative GOP tactic is to quickly change the subject for fear to be found an IDIOT!
Schooling you on Medicare was getting boring.
The Senate Bill may even pass with a PUBLIC OPTION with Opt-IN/OUT triggers.
You listen to too much FOX NEWS who gives you a consistant Diet of GRIM Obama Politics.
You need to listen to all 3 for the real scoop!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Guess you don't watch the news, I envision you as a guy who's about to get kicked out of the public library and return back to his van down by the river..
come on buddy, you are proving your level of ignorance by admitting to me that you didn't see the news today that Harry Reid's plan is going nowhere in the senate with or without at trigger.
NO PUBLIC OPTION DUMB SHIT. WATCH THE NEWS.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago 3
Ever hear of winning the battle BUT NOT THE WAR!
Obama losing the PUBLIC OPTION means you won the battle against America........
However, having a Healthcare Reform Bill pass in Nov as you fill your gullet with Turkey means AMERICA WINS THE WAR!
Obama wins the War with or without the Public Option.
The TRUE harbinger was the nervousness in John McCain voice on Hannity. Hannity was surprised that he did not say it would OUTRIGHT FAIL!
In this case FOX NEWS was useful
DUMBSHIT!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I suppose it's all relative, you, having no health insurance or the money to afford adequate coverage look to blame somebody else for your problem. America was founded by righteous men who believed in limited government and free market economics, not the whipping boy you see as our President today. America wins, historically speaking, when politicians who stray from our Constitution fail. That person today is Barack Obama, and the people that follow him are only slaves of their own failures.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
What about the person that was layed off...their problem?
They foreclose in your neighborhood, will your housing prices go up?
We have Vets who are homeless, their problem, RIGHT. They risked their lives for you. Some repayment, with the old GOP......I gotz mine!
Your last sentence makes no sense...I'm a slave of my own failures since I agree with Obama? I know not to make the same mistakes twice- Run the country like Bush again and that will make America's THIRD TIME!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I'm not going to answer any of that other than saying your a fool. The gaps in your paragraph, combined with your aggressive punctuation style say a lot about you. You have nothing more than a loose grasp on most political concepts, you seem to be fueled more by jealousy and rage than anything logical. Conceptually, you have trouble materializing what it is you actually believe in - you just know you hate Bush and the damn Conservatives. You know what I mean by failures, you are one.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago 2
What you DON'T understand is that I'm your conscience AND I'm filling the gaps in your thinking. Dont like the alternatives to I gotz mine, F**k You, Youre on your own! Thats what America is about?
My political knowledge weak? Because Im wise enough not to template ALL of 1776 to 2009?
As for jealousy & rage? You just say that to make your own misguided selfishness more palatable.
Bush failed for 8yrs, why is it ONLY my failure? Because I didn't vote for him TWICE like you did?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
There it is, there is what I was waiting for. It's Bush's fault. Okay, I'm done with you now - your true colors out there for everyone else to see.
What a loser you are =)
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
You are making no sense!
Anyone who reads my responses knows that I was awake 8yrs ago and disliked Bushs reign.
Trying to minimize my legitimate comparisons by turning it into an obsession doesnt work since YOU HAVING SELECTIVE AMNESIA for those years is equally WRONG!
Instead of the GOP jamming their fingers in their ears going la la la like brats, they need to own it and understand Bush set the stage for this 2009 Presidential Play.
You seem to be in the process of conceding!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Unlike BoldProgressives usual videos filled with phony actors and BS stories, this guy is actually real. He lives in Lewiston, not Portland though. He graduated from Clark University in '06, and is a big supporter of the ME Democratic Party. There are no political donations made from his home town, but I have a feeling he's the Ben Katz from Cambridge, MA who actually donated to Hillary this year and Kerry in '04. There was a donation from a Ben B Katz in 08 to Obama, this guys MI is an A =)
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Maybe with the public insurance program, this guy can afford to have a breast reduction.
Nice tits bro!
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Hey, I'm a major conservative - but I also smoke some reefer from time to time.
Legalize the weed & I'll support an insurance program for lazy loafer liberals.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Like Reefer?
Then you should support Ron Paul!
He wants to legalize the stuff and then tax the shit out of it!
I think you should consider the switch! You'll be supporting America and the school bus drivers that wants to tok while driving your kids!
Good Job!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Whatever, I don't really care - my kids go to private school =)
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
You're RIGHT......I didn't think you cared about this country either!
YouEqualsStupid
downthedrain08 2 years ago
The fallacy behind taxing it is that the whole purpose of legalizing it is to allow people freedom and it would cut off some cash from gangs. But, if we taxed it, it would just stay underground and people would illegally obtain it rather than pay the taxes. There are a lot of people out there trying to make their own cigarettes to not pay taxes, which is legal as long as you don't sell them.
fdkffk 2 years ago
The public option is feared by republicans because it will eliminate the main reason poor and middle class men and women "volunteer" for the military - health care for their families.
patriciaredstone 2 years ago
Damn, you're on to us.
I suggest you immediately find a US Marine and tell him why you think he joined up. (Better get some good catastrophic health insurance first though.)
VerbotenDingleberry 2 years ago
"Protect and defend" your self-interests. I live in a military town. I was raised by a career serviceman and I am not in la-la land about the military being a culture of self-sacrifice. It's a career - period. My dad joined so he could have three square meals a day and learn to be a mechanic. He retired as an officer and is enjoying his full retirement benefits. The great benefits you receive are paid for by American tax dollars. If you weren't offered great benefits you wouldn't have joined.
patriciaredstone 2 years ago
Victicrat
Look it up.
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
REmemberthealamoPUBLICoptionwouldbegreatbutican'tadmitANdwhileihaveyourattentionohyeahtieayellowribbonroundtheoloaktreeandjesuslovesmethisIknowshock&awefreedomisn'tfreeandgodblessamericabutnotamericanswodon'tsharemysentimentsandpreferencesaboutamericanvaluesandlifestylegosarahpalin.
Look it up.
patriciaredstone 2 years ago
I like your ending....GOHOMESARAHPALIN! LOL
downthedrain08 2 years ago
its messed up, our ELECTED officials are supposed to be loyal to the interests of the people who chose them, not the interests of the people of there party. The government has almost completly forgotten the main reason they exist.
badmudda 2 years ago 3
Obama is starting to look like just another politician.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
From the signs and talk I heard from the Ignorant BECK Teabagger YouTube videos......Obama looked nothing like any President or Politician we've seen.
A SHAME!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Well, he seems to demonstrate that there is really no difference between Reps and dems.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
To me, Obama seems to attract more hate, racists, McCarthies and 1776 throw backs than any other President of EITHER PARTY.
I'm still trying to figure that out. :(
downthedrain08 2 years ago
I think there are two driving forces. First, he is black. Second, the right-wing attacks on the president started under Clinton. The often had no basis in reality or were exagerated.
If you tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth. Think about Obama and if he is a citizen. There are a large % of Republicans that are not sure or believe he is not a citizen.
These two items create a nasty mix.
7jerryv7 2 years ago
hahaha the dude talking sounds like a fag.. they probably paid him in sucking dick
mydogcanfly076 2 years ago
and he has tits
ObamaEqualsStupid 2 years ago
Better than YOU Teabaggin Beck....huh mydogcanfly? :)
downthedrain08 2 years ago
We are fighting. Tyranny.
And you ain't seen nothin' yet.
VerbotenDingleberry 2 years ago 2
You can't buy car insurance to fix your car AFTER you wreck it. If it's a "pre-existing condition", then you can't insure against it, by definition.
The so-called "Public Option" is just another Ponzi-type entitlement program, as lawless and unconstitutional as all others now going bankrupt.
What is so creepy about mindless political slogans is that they appear to have the desired effect of separating dupes from their own minds.
Socialism is a Jihad against humanity.
TylerNull 2 years ago
Tyler, dude, you gotta get on board the Zero Express. If the car insurance companies won't let you get coverage for a pre-existing wreck I say we get the Feds to *make* them do it. Think how much money we'll save if we just wait until after the accident to get full coverage! Have a wreck, hop on the iPhone and viola, covered. Soon as the problem is paid for you can drop the coverage.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
What could possibly go wrong?
VerbotenDingleberry 2 years ago 5
"... the Zero Express" --- hilarious.
Yay, free stuff !
TylerNull 2 years ago 2
Isn't that the same as the insurance company declaring your car as "Totaled?"
Pop those pimples on your face, get a job and move out of your parents house!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Probably ought to check my profile and videos. I'm 49, Im married (20 years in December), write software for a living and I've had a couple of cars "totaled" in my misspent youth. I was given fair market value in both cases because I carried full coverage.
Were you trying to make some kind of point or do you just like the sound of your own typing?
VerbotenDingleberry 2 years ago 2
...That you can't make that call because your finger is stuck in your bottom. Darn those pre-existing conditions.
patriciaredstone 2 years ago
I have a preexisting condition, and I do not want the government involved in my healthcare. Say no to the public option, and no to new health care taxes and mandates.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
Mr. Obama: The public option is not just a "sliver" of health care reform, it is the most important, the PILLAR OF HEALTH CARE REFORM.
It is as simple as pie:
NO cost control mechanism (Strong Public Option) + Individual mandate + Fine (fee) = Another bailout bill for the private insurance industry (to the tune of hundred of billions of dollars EVERY YEAR!)
Show your audacity of hope/ change by leadership, not just empty campaign promises/slogans!
teleutube 2 years ago
President Obama: It's Time To Acknowledge Reality.
Now that your fraudulent marketing campaign, with its happy-sounding slogans, are getting filled in with truckloads of legislative ink, America is resoundingly rejecting your socialist putsch.
Obama FAIL = America WIN
TylerNull 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Reality? Obama will pass Health Care Reform, despite the Scouge McDuck look on YOUR grill
YOU, Hama & the Taliban Fail = America WIN!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Democrat -- The Audacity of Depravity
Ever since your victory on 9/11, your kind has aided your Muslim comrades. You betray classified war programs, advocate for the enemy using congress and the courts, slander US Marines & US contractors, and all while distracting from your treason by trying to criminalize the act of national defense.
Keep topic-hopping. It's working GREAT.
TylerNull 2 years ago 2
You talk like an outsider from the perspective of Hamas and The Taliban
Your the type of person that HELPS the slander by turning a blind eye when women are being raped and monies being stolen (ie Halliburton)
Your the type to support an Admin that went to war for unclear reasons for their target has still not been captured, underfunded our troops to the point they needed buy their OWN FLAP JACKETS. Approved when the VA stood there RAT INFESTED.
I don't forget....YOU DO!... SLEEP TIGHT!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
You make stupidity entertaining my friend. Thank you for the laugh.
"FLAP JACKETS". Is that another way of saying small pancakes?
MulligansValley 2 years ago
Unfortunately, YOU entertain me more!
I love seeing when my GOP profiles pan out!
Profile#3: GOP sees the trees but forgets the forest!
You were so concerned with me not using the word BODY ARMOR that the big picture of our troops and VA being underfunded by a hypocrite PRO-WAR Adm goes way over your Obtuse Moron head!
My profile of GOP also dictates I will ALWAYS be AT LEAST one step ahead of YOU :)
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Your war propaganda is entirely forgettable.
Whenever their growing list of treason and betrayals are stuck right up against their snout, the Democrat will avoid the topic. Often by pretending they give a rats ass about US troops, as if there's anyone stupid enough to believe the Code Stink party after their last 8 years of betrayal and treason.
Democrats & the Muslim enemy -- Life Partners
TylerNull 2 years ago 2
Generalizations, riddles and no examples. These are your arguments? This is the best you can show for our school system?
This reminds me of another GOP Profile..
Profile#2: Fringe & Indoctrinated GOP arguements seem like they read from a script with endless generalizations and assumptions without examples.
It's like eating a whipcream pie!
Where's the beef Speedy!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
What the hell are babbling about?
TylerNull 2 years ago
When you rattle off CUT & PASTE indoctrinated crap!
Isn't it like eating a whipcream pie?
OR did you have a Blackout and don't remember writing GARBAGE before my post
Forget it!......Just go back to sleep......You've slept for tthe last 8 years.....what's another 16!
downthedrain08 2 years ago