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if anyone has a brain, this isnt supposed to be happening to any girl. this is only supposed to happen to boys using anesthetics and it has a big medical advantage. some families that dont even need to do it for religion curcumcise thier boys because it's very good for them. doing it to a girl has no advantages but it has many severe side affects for the rest of her life. the only reason people do this is because it's tradition.
Name one medical organization in the world who recommends circumcision and I'll name 10 who don't because they all seem to agree the medical benefits are trivial bullshit.
@crappyblackberries, if genital cutting is wrong on girls, then it is equally wrong to force it on males. Women are FAR more liable to get urinary tract and genital infections than men are. So, IF there is a hygiene argument for the routine removal of the male prepuce, the same argument applies to removing the female prepuce (clitoral hood and inner labia), in order to simplify female genital hygiene.
Leave the genitals of ALL children in peace. North Americans, drop your double-standards!
@psandbergnz The nerves that allow for an orgasm to occur are NOT removed in men. It is in women. Big difference. And, "hygiene" is NOT the reason it's even done to females. It's to stop them from being able to enjoy sex.
@velcrodogowner, male circumcision removes specialised tissue containing 1000s of fine-touch nerve receptors.
Women who know sex with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men tend to prefer UNCIRCUMCISED. Google Kristen O’Hara: "The effect of male circumcision on sexual enjoyment of females" (her study was published in the British J. of Urology). The 100s of women subjects of the study reported more vaginal dryness with the cut penis. 85% reported more likelihood to orgasm with uncut men.
@crappyblackberries How is it ok for men but not for women? Both male and female genital mutilation are unacceptable. It's great that so many people are taking a stand against FGM but it's also disgusting that most of those people don't mind that male genital mutilation is performed about one million times annually in the US.
Ok so this shit is crazy. I would never let my child go though some shit like that. The person who tells a girl it's ok to do is is going to hell for that.
@clovecd, the USA needs to stop forcing circumcision on baby boys! His/her body should mean his/her choice. In Europe, male (and female) circumcision is rare. We Europeans leave our baby boys with a NORMAL, intact penis. That way, the penis functions as Nature designed it too.
@Redolenced, more infections?! That's funny: the 80% circumcised USA has one of the highest burdens of STDs in the industrialised world, and much higher than non-circumising Europe. As your American Pediatric Association says:
"Among first-world nations, the U.S. continues to have the highest rates of STDs, 50-100 times higher than other first-world nations such as Sweden and France".
Circumcision has only given you guys a mutilated, semi-functional dick. American women laugh at their men.
@psandbergnz Women here would laugh at an uncircumcised dick. They are gross looking and they smell horrible. And, any American guy will tell you that circumcision heightens sensitivity. Men who are not, have problems with achieving erections and having orgasms. It's not mutilation at all. It allows men to have a more attractive penis and the main nerves are exposed for maximum pleasure. And, there are no wrinkly folds for dick cheese to build up. Yuk!
@velcrodogowner, INFORM yourself of the role of the male prepuce, before blabbering like the ignorant Yankee you are! IF male the prepuce is unhygienic, exactly the same applies to the homologous female prepuce. Apply your circumcision obsession to YOUR vulva! Female genitalia stink without meticulous hygiene. A light female circumcision is AT LEAST as likely to be hygienic as male circumcision is.
Google "foreskin function" or "foreskin anatomy". American mothers are damaging boys.
@psandbergnz Why don't you get off your lazy arse & do something about MGM in the states if you're so bothered about it. Instead you choose to devalue the importance of the issue in THIS video which is FGM. What is your agenda? Was your Mum not a woman? Why do you have to visit these pages babbling on about "oh what about the men", this is about those poor little girls you weirdo. Would you like to have your arse sewn up for 15 yrs? Maybe that's not a bad idea, to stop you talking out of it!!
80% of the world is intact. Circumcised men get laughed at in other countries. Most studies show that women prefer an intact partner. The "main" nerves are in the foreskin. Do some research.
The practice of circumcision in Islam comes from the Hadith, Shariah law and the consensus of Islamic communities.
The Hadith
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. (Sunan Abu-Dawud: book 41, number 5251, Hasan)
The following reference to Shariah law comes from Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller - A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law. This book comes with the approval al-Azhar University.
Al-Azhar University ( الأزهر الشريف) is the leading institution for Sunni learning in the Islamic world.
e4.3 [Translated from Arabic] Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris (this is called khufaad).
I'm black, have traveled throughout the U.S. and other countries, but this shit amazes me. How can a whole tribe be anal enough to hurt poor little girls whose birth rite was already doodoo?
What is funny though is that they are used to seeing that and do it because it is accepted. I'm sure that we have habits that repulse them...I don't know what that could be tho.
@BSagitarius in a female circumcision they cut off the clitoris. People will tell you many reasons why it's done, but it's mainly done to keep the males in control of their woman's body. 80% of women can only experience an orgasm with clitoral stimulation, rather than vaginal penetration. With a woman who has her clit removed she'll have no choice but to try for a vaginal orgasm, that or just let her husband get his rocks off, then roll over and go to sleep.
@KujoDaTrollEater I've never known a woman who had a "vaginal orgasm". What a crock of shit. That's a lie perpetuated by some fucking man saying it's possible. And, even if it is.......................I'm certain it doesn't feel as good.
@velcrodogowner, the notion that female circumcision prevents female orgasm is REBUTTED by research! A study by researcher Emma Young, published in the NewScientist (2002), available online, investigated 1836 Nigerian women, 45% of whom had been circumcised. It concludes:
"Circumcised women experience sexual arousal and orgasm as often as uncircumcised women". The researchers also found no difference in frequency of intercourse, or age of first sexual experience between both groups of women.
@psandbergnz There are different types of FGM. Some do leave women able to lead normal sex lives, but other types destroy a womans genitals making sex painful, and never pleasurable.
@maddymadison30, yes that's true. Note also that there are various forms of male circumcision too (e.g. scarification of the penis in addition to circumcision, performed by some tribes). It's best not to meddle with Nature unnecessarily. In Africa, many hundreds of girls and boys die from circumcision wounds.
Circumcision is uncommon in Europe, but still very prevalent in the USA.
@psandbergnz You're a sick man. How about the infertility rates? The deaths and sickness from infection? You forgot about those. Please don't use this as a platform to trivialise what is happening. It's sick, barbaric, inhumane and disgusting. If you cannot see that you are clearly unstable.
@fadmucker08, your anti-male agenda is obvious.The fact there is sickness and death caused by both male and female circumcision, as practised in the African "bush", should concern any humanist person (for you, only one gender counts).
WHEN non-consented infant penile cutting is banned in western nations, just as female genital cutting now is, then your statements would be appreciable. Ethics embraces both genders, so drop the double-standards! My body means my choice, just as for you.
@psandbergnz I have no anti male agenda, that's where we differ. I am male. I also agree that you have a choice as we all do. So go and make that choice and do something about it instead of using this as a platform to promote your choice. Can you not see that what you are doing is very detrimental to this cause, which, you must admit, and already have, is a very worty cause. Go and set up an anit MGM page, tell me where it is & I will support you, not obstruct. That's the difference between us
@fadmucker08, I openly oppose all forms of genital cutting of minors. Female and male genital cuttings are part of the same problem - a relic of outdated religion. I normally only comment here in response to women from the USA who rail against female circumcision as uneithical, yet come from a nation (USA) that still circumcises about 60% of male babies routinely. 80% of US men are circumcised. While not directly relevant to the video, it surely becomes so in the face of these double-standards.
@psandbergnz Sorry, I still think what you are doing is wrong, & in a very minute way actually contributing toward the problem by distracting people from this worthy cause.You're also not doing much for the awareness of MGM, which would be better served by puting soe videos on here, just like these people have, that's why it's about FGM, not because of double standards or sexism.You're looking for something which isn't there, wasting your energy and time which could be served for your MGM cause.
@fadmucker08. well maybe so, but perhaps you should WATCH a baby boy hospital circumcision (e.g. on Youtube). Babies are often not even anaesthetised, since administering anaesthetic to a very young baby can add to the risk of complications. See if you can even complete the viewing! In the hospital setting, it typically lasts at least 10 minutes. It might change your tune a bit.
In the "bush", it's over more quickly, but there is a huge risk of associated infections.
@fadmucker08, and by the way, if you go to Youtube videos on male circumcision, you will often find women commenting that they had their sons circumcised, because they didn't want him to have an "anteater penis", or some other such ignorant nonsense. Or that male circumcision is fine, and men should stop complaining about it .
@psandbergnz I'm not going to fall into your trap of hijacking this page which is for a very good cause to discuss your issues. You're a selfish prick, if you stopped for a second to think about what you're doing you'd see that. You're no man at all, and your so called issues with mgm are a facade to feed your self centered ego. If you truly "cared" about mgm you wouldn't be wasting your efforts on this page, you'd be doing something positive about it. So god and do it, good luck and goodbye
@psandbergnz Move me dickwad. I think it's time you did. If you actually read through our comments you'll see that mine are fuelled by trying to do something positive about fgm, whereas all you've talked about is your issues. This is a page for fgm, people are trying to help end it, and gain knowledge of how they can do that. You're getting in the way with your dribble. I wont respond again as this page is being wasted, which I think is your agenda. Stop being mean, go to a mgm page, be happy,
@fadmucker08, I'm trying to end both FGM and MGM. If you've got nothing but insults to dish out, you're doing A LOT LESS than I am to end FGM. You seem like a mutilated guy, who doesn't like to be reminded.
@velcrodogowner Are you blind?! I basically said that it's rare for a woman to be able to have a vaginal orgasm. Although my wife experienced one once. I was expressing my opinion that female circumcision is wrong. So what the fuck did I say that made you made enough to get on my case? Go to hell, and take your stupidity with you, you feminist dyke!!!!
.. and when abu dawud showed his book to ahmad ben hanbal this one said there are many of urs we can say "good",weak, very weak.abu dawud was famouse in working with hadiths classifed as da3eef (weak).
second the sunnah the hadiths of abu dawud (ur friend) are very weak,so this one mentioned from u is one of these.and a generale role is what is in contradiction from hadiths with what the Guran says is considered FALSE OR MADSUS (made from who want di descredit the Propeht or Islam).so i repeat: the unique valid role is the MALE CIRCUMCISION IN ISLAM.if u make a small research on the web about this fenomena u will see that is very known in Africa's tribes.
and this practice was performed from Egyptians before Abram(the first man who was circumcised in the history).and the woman was circumcised in arabs tribes before islam even it was rare.Allah does not permit any kind of cutting from parts of animals, imagine from a woman! Q 4:118,119
if islam like man and women with circumcision..,,,y dont allah give birth to humans with circumcision....i asked this in few communities i got ans that allah has left small things for human to do their selves....and even few ppl told that circumcision is good as even dr advice ppl to do it......i only told him doctor also advice to cut whole limb....y dont u guys cut ur limb in childhood...and even breast for cancer.....then cut girls breast too....IS-LAME.....
I don't understand.... Female circumcision is a part of their ancient African culture. You're not going to stop these people from practicing it. Take the savagery out of it by giving these girls some analgesic and place them in a sterile environment. Should they banish male circumcision? Male circumcision was ancient too. They took the savagery out of male circumcision, and it is now practiced all over the world; people have legalized abortion and prohibition from back alley practices too.
A grown woman would be hard pushed to withstand the pain and aftermath of this barbaric practice, but a 2 - 4 year old? This really has to stop. Why do women bear the brunt of suppressing sexuality that certain cultures find unacceptable?
FGM is truly disgusting and only a worshipper of Satan would ever dream of doing such a thing to a fellow human being. Men (and or women) who perform such evil on other fellow humans deserve to be executed. Not only does doing this increase chance for infections and disease, sexual pleasure is COMPLETELY destroyed and pregnancy isn't even an option anymore. Not to mention the unfathomable amount of psychological damage this causes. Dear God... the world we live in.. Peace to all women.
@AbdullahKhaleeji7 no its not. you dont need sex to live. its not like your going to die if you never had it. and nothing is wrong with me i dont believe in sex period
Yes sex is essential for human health both physically and mentally. Allah has installed in us the sexual urges and we cannot deny them because that would be to deny nature. I cant believe what I am hearing from you! Totally unbelievable!
@AbdullahKhaleeji7 well its not for my health physically and mentally. i never had sex before a day of my life and you dont see whining about how i havent done it in so long. and you can believe it or not
@Catsie15 wow who ever you are, I will totally agree with abdullah- even if your a bible beater it states it is a sin. Even with that said good things in life are sins too. I am not going to say mutual happiness is a sin to me but sex makes someone feel important, complete, wanted. I have gone years with out it atm and I think it is killing me. No amount of meditation is going to alieve it, I need the human contact and desire that sadly these american girls are bad at... Well w/e gl to U l2 live
@evilrelic so is male circumcision. neither is necessary. i never had sex in my life and you dont see me complaining about it. if it makes someone fell "imported,wanted and completed" then why is it when either gernder gets knocked up the next day they feel like they were used?&thrown away and either regret having sex with that person even if that person put on a act just to get in their pants? sex is un-needed imo. i dont believe in it and never will. i never heard of female circum. as a sin
@Catsie15 my goodness your type of thinking makes it a no brainer why you do not have sex. and either gender does not get knocked up only the female does. Yes there are people who puts on an act. I for one do not, usually my acting starts later as in I am telling myself I love this person and then later I find that I really just telling myself that. But sex is just a side thing to relationship. I like it, its nice to share and to give each other orgasms. Its nice to know each of you care to doit
only through education can we we enlighten these people to the reality of their actions.its unjust and its agiants all islamic teachings....its abhorrent and they should be stopped.its a cultural practice not a religious one.
in some cases the whole clit is cut off. male circumcision only cuts flesh not the whole penis. Can youimaginenever climaxing or experiencing pain, every time you have sex, or never feeling anything at all becauseof nerve damage?
@Ldb29corn TY for your input, I am an "intact" male and I find that most of us men that are intact do not yearn to be cut. Unless they have a medical problem that makes the need. People like to say its great for higiene, but we don't cut females beef curtains or hoods for this so called hygiene here in america but sadly we cut our males penises. Please for the love of your sons cocks do not mutilate them.
Women's mutilation has actual functional detruction. Male circumcision has no such effect - on the contrary - it has such health benefits that today it is done for medical reasons even by people who would not do it for religious reasons.
they do it to boys for different reasons and usually when they are babies so they heal fast and they don't remember it when they grow up and they still feel sexual pleausre.. on the other hand when its done on girls its done when they are older, no pain killers, no freezing, and its done so they cant enjoy sex when they have it. its really sad and no its not the same as boys
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The words 'horror' and 'victim' have been used to suggest that female circumcision is a bad practice and that girls and women fear it. In fact, they're enthusiastic promoters of the custom, enjoying the operation itself and its benefits on their marital relations.
markmywords, you are an ignorant pig! Women are subjected to this kidn of torture and you PIG are there condoning this filth. It just proves that you are a sub-human, animals are better than you. PIG!
It's not torture, no way! Many girls enjoy it, and those that don't learn from the experience and make better wives and mothers as a result of the cutting.
Ok Markmywords53, lets see if you would enjoy having your genitals cut off or mulitated so you felt only pain and no pleasure. You sicko. Rather obvious you know nothing about how a womans body works.
@markmywords53 ....dude..lucky u....if the doc did cut off ur whole stem...instead of juz ur skin...u wud delete all ur comments rite away...perfect xample 4 sadist...duh!!!if u don feel the pain...u aint human dude..u were suppsd 2 born during tool ages...so dat u r wiped out by now!!!how crap!!..talking about he better wives and mothers??? do u hve any count!? learn being a human 1st...b4 u spit non sense...mayb u juz care ur stem the most...!!!
@markmywords53 If you cut off the clitoris, the only sensation left is pain or there is no sensation left at all. Does that seem RIGHT to you? They are enthusiastic because they are ignorant. They realize later what they have lost.
soooooooooooooooo sadddddddddddddddd
cherrinburtin 3 months ago
@1001Phoenix Are u stupid circumsicing a girl is culture and doing it to a boy is religion.
TheDamnPrincessx 5 months ago
@TheDamnPrincessx There both culture.
Nifrayu 2 months ago
sad
MsScorpio1990 10 months ago
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fadmucker08 10 months ago
a very abnormal allah creating an abnormal human, that need further dressing.
what a fucking bollock religion. fuck allah
adamthebIessed 11 months ago
if anyone has a brain, this isnt supposed to be happening to any girl. this is only supposed to happen to boys using anesthetics and it has a big medical advantage. some families that dont even need to do it for religion curcumcise thier boys because it's very good for them. doing it to a girl has no advantages but it has many severe side affects for the rest of her life. the only reason people do this is because it's tradition.
ILPVMXD 11 months ago
@ILPVMXD
Name one medical organization in the world who recommends circumcision and I'll name 10 who don't because they all seem to agree the medical benefits are trivial bullshit.
TiniNormi 8 months ago
@crappyblackberries, if genital cutting is wrong on girls, then it is equally wrong to force it on males. Women are FAR more liable to get urinary tract and genital infections than men are. So, IF there is a hygiene argument for the routine removal of the male prepuce, the same argument applies to removing the female prepuce (clitoral hood and inner labia), in order to simplify female genital hygiene.
Leave the genitals of ALL children in peace. North Americans, drop your double-standards!
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz The nerves that allow for an orgasm to occur are NOT removed in men. It is in women. Big difference. And, "hygiene" is NOT the reason it's even done to females. It's to stop them from being able to enjoy sex.
velcrodogowner 1 year ago
@velcrodogowner, male circumcision removes specialised tissue containing 1000s of fine-touch nerve receptors.
Women who know sex with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men tend to prefer UNCIRCUMCISED. Google Kristen O’Hara: "The effect of male circumcision on sexual enjoyment of females" (her study was published in the British J. of Urology). The 100s of women subjects of the study reported more vaginal dryness with the cut penis. 85% reported more likelihood to orgasm with uncut men.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@velcrodogowner
The majority of mutilated women can still orgasm.
It's done on both sexes for the same reasons: hygiene, conformity, aesthetic.
Circumcision was historcally started to reduce sexual pleasure.
Try doing actual research instead of relying on biased propaganda.
TiniNormi 8 months ago
@crappyblackberries How is it ok for men but not for women? Both male and female genital mutilation are unacceptable. It's great that so many people are taking a stand against FGM but it's also disgusting that most of those people don't mind that male genital mutilation is performed about one million times annually in the US.
Mystoksor 1 year ago
Ok so this shit is crazy. I would never let my child go though some shit like that. The person who tells a girl it's ok to do is is going to hell for that.
clovecd 1 year ago
@clovecd, the USA needs to stop forcing circumcision on baby boys! His/her body should mean his/her choice. In Europe, male (and female) circumcision is rare. We Europeans leave our baby boys with a NORMAL, intact penis. That way, the penis functions as Nature designed it too.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz
enjoy your smelly dick cheese and diseases
no guys in america want anteeter dicks
Redolenced 1 year ago
@Redolenced, more infections?! That's funny: the 80% circumcised USA has one of the highest burdens of STDs in the industrialised world, and much higher than non-circumising Europe. As your American Pediatric Association says:
"Among first-world nations, the U.S. continues to have the highest rates of STDs, 50-100 times higher than other first-world nations such as Sweden and France".
Circumcision has only given you guys a mutilated, semi-functional dick. American women laugh at their men.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz Women here would laugh at an uncircumcised dick. They are gross looking and they smell horrible. And, any American guy will tell you that circumcision heightens sensitivity. Men who are not, have problems with achieving erections and having orgasms. It's not mutilation at all. It allows men to have a more attractive penis and the main nerves are exposed for maximum pleasure. And, there are no wrinkly folds for dick cheese to build up. Yuk!
velcrodogowner 1 year ago
@velcrodogowner, INFORM yourself of the role of the male prepuce, before blabbering like the ignorant Yankee you are! IF male the prepuce is unhygienic, exactly the same applies to the homologous female prepuce. Apply your circumcision obsession to YOUR vulva! Female genitalia stink without meticulous hygiene. A light female circumcision is AT LEAST as likely to be hygienic as male circumcision is.
Google "foreskin function" or "foreskin anatomy". American mothers are damaging boys.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz Why don't you get off your lazy arse & do something about MGM in the states if you're so bothered about it. Instead you choose to devalue the importance of the issue in THIS video which is FGM. What is your agenda? Was your Mum not a woman? Why do you have to visit these pages babbling on about "oh what about the men", this is about those poor little girls you weirdo. Would you like to have your arse sewn up for 15 yrs? Maybe that's not a bad idea, to stop you talking out of it!!
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@velcrodogowner
80% of the world is intact. Circumcised men get laughed at in other countries. Most studies show that women prefer an intact partner. The "main" nerves are in the foreskin. Do some research.
TiniNormi 8 months ago
The practice of circumcision in Islam comes from the Hadith, Shariah law and the consensus of Islamic communities.
The Hadith
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. (Sunan Abu-Dawud: book 41, number 5251, Hasan)
1001Phoenix 1 year ago 30
@1001Phoenix
The Shariah
The following reference to Shariah law comes from Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller - A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law. This book comes with the approval al-Azhar University.
Al-Azhar University ( الأزهر الشريف) is the leading institution for Sunni learning in the Islamic world.
1001Phoenix 1 year ago 30
@1001Phoenix
e4.3 [Translated from Arabic] Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris (this is called khufaad).
1001Phoenix 1 year ago
@1001Phoenix
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1001Phoenix 1 year ago
I'm black, have traveled throughout the U.S. and other countries, but this shit amazes me. How can a whole tribe be anal enough to hurt poor little girls whose birth rite was already doodoo?
What is funny though is that they are used to seeing that and do it because it is accepted. I'm sure that we have habits that repulse them...I don't know what that could be tho.
ekocentric 1 year ago
yah..very CRUEL :(
princessnevroj 1 year ago
So what exactly do they cut?
BSagitarius 1 year ago
@BSagitarius in a female circumcision they cut off the clitoris. People will tell you many reasons why it's done, but it's mainly done to keep the males in control of their woman's body. 80% of women can only experience an orgasm with clitoral stimulation, rather than vaginal penetration. With a woman who has her clit removed she'll have no choice but to try for a vaginal orgasm, that or just let her husband get his rocks off, then roll over and go to sleep.
KujoDaTrollEater 1 year ago
@KujoDaTrollEater I've never known a woman who had a "vaginal orgasm". What a crock of shit. That's a lie perpetuated by some fucking man saying it's possible. And, even if it is.......................I'm certain it doesn't feel as good.
velcrodogowner 1 year ago
@velcrodogowner, the notion that female circumcision prevents female orgasm is REBUTTED by research! A study by researcher Emma Young, published in the NewScientist (2002), available online, investigated 1836 Nigerian women, 45% of whom had been circumcised. It concludes:
"Circumcised women experience sexual arousal and orgasm as often as uncircumcised women". The researchers also found no difference in frequency of intercourse, or age of first sexual experience between both groups of women.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz There are different types of FGM. Some do leave women able to lead normal sex lives, but other types destroy a womans genitals making sex painful, and never pleasurable.
maddymadison30 11 months ago
@maddymadison30, yes that's true. Note also that there are various forms of male circumcision too (e.g. scarification of the penis in addition to circumcision, performed by some tribes). It's best not to meddle with Nature unnecessarily. In Africa, many hundreds of girls and boys die from circumcision wounds.
Circumcision is uncommon in Europe, but still very prevalent in the USA.
psandbergnz 11 months ago
@psandbergnz You're a sick man. How about the infertility rates? The deaths and sickness from infection? You forgot about those. Please don't use this as a platform to trivialise what is happening. It's sick, barbaric, inhumane and disgusting. If you cannot see that you are clearly unstable.
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@fadmucker08, your anti-male agenda is obvious.The fact there is sickness and death caused by both male and female circumcision, as practised in the African "bush", should concern any humanist person (for you, only one gender counts).
WHEN non-consented infant penile cutting is banned in western nations, just as female genital cutting now is, then your statements would be appreciable. Ethics embraces both genders, so drop the double-standards! My body means my choice, just as for you.
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@psandbergnz I have no anti male agenda, that's where we differ. I am male. I also agree that you have a choice as we all do. So go and make that choice and do something about it instead of using this as a platform to promote your choice. Can you not see that what you are doing is very detrimental to this cause, which, you must admit, and already have, is a very worty cause. Go and set up an anit MGM page, tell me where it is & I will support you, not obstruct. That's the difference between us
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@fadmucker08, I openly oppose all forms of genital cutting of minors. Female and male genital cuttings are part of the same problem - a relic of outdated religion. I normally only comment here in response to women from the USA who rail against female circumcision as uneithical, yet come from a nation (USA) that still circumcises about 60% of male babies routinely. 80% of US men are circumcised. While not directly relevant to the video, it surely becomes so in the face of these double-standards.
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@psandbergnz Sorry, I still think what you are doing is wrong, & in a very minute way actually contributing toward the problem by distracting people from this worthy cause.You're also not doing much for the awareness of MGM, which would be better served by puting soe videos on here, just like these people have, that's why it's about FGM, not because of double standards or sexism.You're looking for something which isn't there, wasting your energy and time which could be served for your MGM cause.
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@fadmucker08. well maybe so, but perhaps you should WATCH a baby boy hospital circumcision (e.g. on Youtube). Babies are often not even anaesthetised, since administering anaesthetic to a very young baby can add to the risk of complications. See if you can even complete the viewing! In the hospital setting, it typically lasts at least 10 minutes. It might change your tune a bit.
In the "bush", it's over more quickly, but there is a huge risk of associated infections.
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@fadmucker08, and by the way, if you go to Youtube videos on male circumcision, you will often find women commenting that they had their sons circumcised, because they didn't want him to have an "anteater penis", or some other such ignorant nonsense. Or that male circumcision is fine, and men should stop complaining about it .
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@psandbergnz I'm not going to fall into your trap of hijacking this page which is for a very good cause to discuss your issues. You're a selfish prick, if you stopped for a second to think about what you're doing you'd see that. You're no man at all, and your so called issues with mgm are a facade to feed your self centered ego. If you truly "cared" about mgm you wouldn't be wasting your efforts on this page, you'd be doing something positive about it. So god and do it, good luck and goodbye
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@fadmucker08, I think it's high time you moved on, and stopped trying to dominate this site with comments without substance.
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@psandbergnz Move me dickwad. I think it's time you did. If you actually read through our comments you'll see that mine are fuelled by trying to do something positive about fgm, whereas all you've talked about is your issues. This is a page for fgm, people are trying to help end it, and gain knowledge of how they can do that. You're getting in the way with your dribble. I wont respond again as this page is being wasted, which I think is your agenda. Stop being mean, go to a mgm page, be happy,
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@fadmucker08, I'm trying to end both FGM and MGM. If you've got nothing but insults to dish out, you're doing A LOT LESS than I am to end FGM. You seem like a mutilated guy, who doesn't like to be reminded.
psandbergnz 10 months ago
@velcrodogowner Are you blind?! I basically said that it's rare for a woman to be able to have a vaginal orgasm. Although my wife experienced one once. I was expressing my opinion that female circumcision is wrong. So what the fuck did I say that made you made enough to get on my case? Go to hell, and take your stupidity with you, you feminist dyke!!!!
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siamaQ1812 1 year ago
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.. and when abu dawud showed his book to ahmad ben hanbal this one said there are many of urs we can say "good",weak, very weak.abu dawud was famouse in working with hadiths classifed as da3eef (weak).
ktss61 1 year ago
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second the sunnah the hadiths of abu dawud (ur friend) are very weak,so this one mentioned from u is one of these.and a generale role is what is in contradiction from hadiths with what the Guran says is considered FALSE OR MADSUS (made from who want di descredit the Propeht or Islam).so i repeat: the unique valid role is the MALE CIRCUMCISION IN ISLAM.if u make a small research on the web about this fenomena u will see that is very known in Africa's tribes.
ktss61 1 year ago
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and this practice was performed from Egyptians before Abram(the first man who was circumcised in the history).and the woman was circumcised in arabs tribes before islam even it was rare.Allah does not permit any kind of cutting from parts of animals, imagine from a woman! Q 4:118,119
ktss61 1 year ago
i think it is only lawful if it was used only to those female that addicted on porno hahahaha
Richardbelen 1 year ago
if islam like man and women with circumcision..,,,y dont allah give birth to humans with circumcision....i asked this in few communities i got ans that allah has left small things for human to do their selves....and even few ppl told that circumcision is good as even dr advice ppl to do it......i only told him doctor also advice to cut whole limb....y dont u guys cut ur limb in childhood...and even breast for cancer.....then cut girls breast too....IS-LAME.....
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
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I don't understand.... Female circumcision is a part of their ancient African culture. You're not going to stop these people from practicing it. Take the savagery out of it by giving these girls some analgesic and place them in a sterile environment. Should they banish male circumcision? Male circumcision was ancient too. They took the savagery out of male circumcision, and it is now practiced all over the world; people have legalized abortion and prohibition from back alley practices too.
omgitzdoeB 1 year ago
sex is the one of the major reason as to whats wrong with some people in the country i live in. thats how diseases, affairs, etc happen
Catsie15 1 year ago
OH, SO WHEN THE DIRTY JEW STEALS MY BELLEND IT'S OK HUH?
WELL FUCK THAT
FUCK THAT SIDEWAYS
popolynn2 1 year ago
why is it that people cant just leave they body as god wanted
deadlylege 1 year ago
why is it that people cant just leave they body as god wanted
deadlylege 1 year ago
This is a disgusting crime against humanity and whoever does this to girls deserves to have his balls chopped off! This is so sad!
AbdullahKhaleeji7 1 year ago
A grown woman would be hard pushed to withstand the pain and aftermath of this barbaric practice, but a 2 - 4 year old? This really has to stop. Why do women bear the brunt of suppressing sexuality that certain cultures find unacceptable?
puffinstuffsmum 1 year ago
FGM is truly disgusting and only a worshipper of Satan would ever dream of doing such a thing to a fellow human being. Men (and or women) who perform such evil on other fellow humans deserve to be executed. Not only does doing this increase chance for infections and disease, sexual pleasure is COMPLETELY destroyed and pregnancy isn't even an option anymore. Not to mention the unfathomable amount of psychological damage this causes. Dear God... the world we live in.. Peace to all women.
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VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
In some African countries, female circumcision is ti keep the female pure and holy?
Do you know how it will feel if you cannot have the pleasure or basically feeling nothing at all while your partner have sex with you?
Its horrific what they do to women nowadays :[
AviloriANo1 1 year ago
@AviloriANo1 is that all people care about nowadays? feeling pleasure while having sex? sex is not that damn important
Catsie15 1 year ago
@Catsie15
You are wrong, pleasure is extremely important and so is sex! What is wrong with you?
AbdullahKhaleeji7 1 year ago
@AbdullahKhaleeji7 no its not. you dont need sex to live. its not like your going to die if you never had it. and nothing is wrong with me i dont believe in sex period
Catsie15 1 year ago
@Catsie15
Yes sex is essential for human health both physically and mentally. Allah has installed in us the sexual urges and we cannot deny them because that would be to deny nature. I cant believe what I am hearing from you! Totally unbelievable!
AbdullahKhaleeji7 1 year ago
@AbdullahKhaleeji7 well its not for my health physically and mentally. i never had sex before a day of my life and you dont see whining about how i havent done it in so long. and you can believe it or not
Catsie15 1 year ago
@Catsie15 wow who ever you are, I will totally agree with abdullah- even if your a bible beater it states it is a sin. Even with that said good things in life are sins too. I am not going to say mutual happiness is a sin to me but sex makes someone feel important, complete, wanted. I have gone years with out it atm and I think it is killing me. No amount of meditation is going to alieve it, I need the human contact and desire that sadly these american girls are bad at... Well w/e gl to U l2 live
evilrelic 1 year ago
@evilrelic so is male circumcision. neither is necessary. i never had sex in my life and you dont see me complaining about it. if it makes someone fell "imported,wanted and completed" then why is it when either gernder gets knocked up the next day they feel like they were used?&thrown away and either regret having sex with that person even if that person put on a act just to get in their pants? sex is un-needed imo. i dont believe in it and never will. i never heard of female circum. as a sin
Catsie15 1 year ago
@Catsie15 my goodness your type of thinking makes it a no brainer why you do not have sex. and either gender does not get knocked up only the female does. Yes there are people who puts on an act. I for one do not, usually my acting starts later as in I am telling myself I love this person and then later I find that I really just telling myself that. But sex is just a side thing to relationship. I like it, its nice to share and to give each other orgasms. Its nice to know each of you care to doit
evilrelic 1 year ago
that must hurt like crazy though... this isn't necessary
DA3XT3RM1NAT0R 1 year ago
wow what a let down... there not ganna show us the cut??
DA3XT3RM1NAT0R 1 year ago
We cannot educate these people out of their barbarity. Not possible. The only hope is to crack Islam open so people can escape it.
Wilbur665 1 year ago
only through education can we we enlighten these people to the reality of their actions.its unjust and its agiants all islamic teachings....its abhorrent and they should be stopped.its a cultural practice not a religious one.
beyzasmum 1 year ago
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What's the big deal? The day they figure out that male Circumcision is mutilation too, then I can feel sorry about female Circumcision.
rhomis 2 years ago
in some cases the whole clit is cut off. male circumcision only cuts flesh not the whole penis. Can youimaginenever climaxing or experiencing pain, every time you have sex, or never feeling anything at all becauseof nerve damage?
breezyage 2 years ago 13
i am a circumcised man - i can relate to some of this...i am surprised circumcision in anyway is allowed to anyone on earth
Ldb29corn 1 year ago 2
@Ldb29corn TY for your input, I am an "intact" male and I find that most of us men that are intact do not yearn to be cut. Unless they have a medical problem that makes the need. People like to say its great for higiene, but we don't cut females beef curtains or hoods for this so called hygiene here in america but sadly we cut our males penises. Please for the love of your sons cocks do not mutilate them.
evilrelic 1 year ago
@breezyage where is your proof that the clit is cut off???is that ur clitoris??:P
MyNemesis123 1 year ago
How can you compare?
Women's mutilation has actual functional detruction. Male circumcision has no such effect - on the contrary - it has such health benefits that today it is done for medical reasons even by people who would not do it for religious reasons.
Sefardi123 2 years ago
i am circumcised i beg to differ
Ldb29corn 1 year ago 2
male circumcision is just as fucked up
Ldb29corn 1 year ago 2
@Ldb29corn
no dude! its not the same
Rainmakerlola 1 year ago 2
@Rainmakerlola IT IS THE SAME
MrJama1ca 1 year ago
lol, ah well, i'm living it up in my HOUSE! where as they're getting their flaps cut.
7Vastyx 2 years ago
BUT WE DO THAT TO BOYS!
lochinvar00465 2 years ago
they do it to boys for different reasons and usually when they are babies so they heal fast and they don't remember it when they grow up and they still feel sexual pleausre.. on the other hand when its done on girls its done when they are older, no pain killers, no freezing, and its done so they cant enjoy sex when they have it. its really sad and no its not the same as boys
LaDysHaR11 2 years ago 2
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The words 'horror' and 'victim' have been used to suggest that female circumcision is a bad practice and that girls and women fear it. In fact, they're enthusiastic promoters of the custom, enjoying the operation itself and its benefits on their marital relations.
markmywords53 2 years ago
Who exactly do you think you're bullshitting?
Bumblybee256 2 years ago
markmywords, you are an ignorant pig! Women are subjected to this kidn of torture and you PIG are there condoning this filth. It just proves that you are a sub-human, animals are better than you. PIG!
Islamisacultofmurder 2 years ago
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It's not torture, no way! Many girls enjoy it, and those that don't learn from the experience and make better wives and mothers as a result of the cutting.
markmywords53 2 years ago
ok what the fuck,
are you HIGH?
bollywoodgirl5 2 years ago
fuck off
nathninetyone 2 years ago
Ok Markmywords53, lets see if you would enjoy having your genitals cut off or mulitated so you felt only pain and no pleasure. You sicko. Rather obvious you know nothing about how a womans body works.
o0portal0o 2 years ago
@markmywords53 ....dude..lucky u....if the doc did cut off ur whole stem...instead of juz ur skin...u wud delete all ur comments rite away...perfect xample 4 sadist...duh!!!if u don feel the pain...u aint human dude..u were suppsd 2 born during tool ages...so dat u r wiped out by now!!!how crap!!..talking about he better wives and mothers??? do u hve any count!? learn being a human 1st...b4 u spit non sense...mayb u juz care ur stem the most...!!!
jemneo 1 year ago
@markmywords53 If you cut off the clitoris, the only sensation left is pain or there is no sensation left at all. Does that seem RIGHT to you? They are enthusiastic because they are ignorant. They realize later what they have lost.
Kimjira1 1 year ago
@markmywords53 You are ignorant and disgusting. Get an education in female anatomy, then try to backup that bullshit.
Kimjira1 1 year ago