Progressives Conyers & Waters Draw A Line In The Sand On The Health Care Bill!

[Staticnz]

Seeing Ed talk with such fierceness from the left makes you see just how freakin' weak and pathetic Obama and Gibbs and all his administration have been on this issue.

Obama is royally screwing it up. I'm really curious to see if he springs back, but I think he may have pretty much stuff himself. But we'll see.

[bbbbmer]

John Conyers and Maxine Waters are GREAT Americans, heroes on behalf of Americans of modest means.... We should thank them very much!

[ekjohndeer]

Yha Right How about on behalf of Americians Conyers Look into Acorn and clean up his crimial house first . Isn't it amazing that he is the Chairman of that !!!

[bbbbmer]

Why don't you get back to your Million MORON March today -- shouldn't you faux-christians be awaiting the rapture or something???

[ekjohndeer]

sorry I have to go to work and take care of my family today. And whats that have to do with investagating Crimials can't you think of good answer to the queation besides hate.

[bbbbmer]

your family of inbred mongaloids??? 'crimials'???? honey, can't you even afford spellcheck in your trailer park???

[ekjohndeer]

inbred mongaloids, crimials trailer park , again no answer. Hate is that all you can do is this Monica Conyers?

[Pvtjamesryan2]

Obama had NO clarity on the campaign trail and he has NO clarity now.

He's always vague as fuck. That's how he rolls.

Stay stupid America!!

[teleutube]

It's time for Mr Obama to show his back-bone:

DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND....

or facing the Democratic Party's Waterloo

[FixedNewsChannel]

I love this man.

[BabybooR33]

what a loud toxic-egoic individual ...

[overmind25]

Ed needs to look at why costs increase. He is the MSNBC Oreilly.

[FixedNewsChannel]

Ed 'hams it up' -

O'reilly DOWNRIGHT LIES through his teeth.

[felizgatito]

@fixed..You love to lie and post lies, and when you are caught in your lies on your vids you quickly block folks who make you look like a lying fool. Also you do not allow negative comments on your channel. Guess you are the typical lib. You can dish it out but you can't take it.

[Strutinan]

yEAH...the only difference is that Ed has demonstrative facts, evidence, history, and expert opinion to back him up...

Waitaminute, that makes him THE EXACT OPPOSITE of O'Liely

But you reich-wingnuts don't care about reality, only the comfortable LIES of Faux Noise and Rot Limpballs. Your blatant hypocrisy goes over your heads because you are IDIOTS.

And THAT is why EVERYBODY LAUGHS AT YOU!

[overmind25]

Right wing nuts? This is the problem with modern political discourse. You are programmed to state anyone that opposes people like Ed are right wingers, watch Fox News, and listen to Rush. You are completely wrong. I am a left libertarian. Ed does not have relevant facts nor is he addressing the institutional problems of the health care mess. He is a demagogue.

[Strutinan]

And here ladies and gentlemen we see yet ANOTHER example of reich-wingnut willful ignorance. "overmind25" not only fails to read "reich-wingnut" properly, he tries to HIDE behind the "I have gay friends so I can't be homophobic" defense: claiming that despite his prior history he is a "left libertarian".

SMALL problem there...libertarian's ARE republitards. Their STATED PURPOSE is to give reich-wingnuts just this type of "out" in a debate. They are even OPENLY FUNDED by the RNC!

[overmind25]

Goodness it is amazing the programming you have subjected yourself. You rant about ideas you know nothing about. I am bi first off. Secondly you need a history lesson on what a "left libertarian" is. The term libertarian was coined in Europe and it referred to anarcho syndicalists which were stateless socialists.

[overmind25]

The term libertarian was then used later in the US which does not resemble its original meaning in Europe. Constitution, limited coercive state monopoly, state charter limited liability corporation, land monopoly not tied to labor, etc is not a function of libertarianism in Europe historically or my left libertarianism.

[SlashingTongue]

Both are wing nuts! That is coming from an independent.

[djtarique]

wrong. ED admits hes a liberal. O'reilly is a liar and acts like hes neutral

[overmind25]

I don't mean in terms of their espoused and/or hidden ideas. The term left and right mean little anyway without context and clarity of terms. I mean in terms of their demeanor. Oreilly describes himself as a traditionalist anyway but his positions change regardless depending on the day. Ed doesn't go into why prices have risen and the system problems that are inherent. Instead he rants about vacations which just drums up anger but provides no important information.

[Strutinan]

Careful there djtarique, overmind25 has a LONG history of making outrageous reich-wingnut claims, then when called on them he deflects and confuses the issue rather than own up.

Simple strait-forward and unambiguous replies to him lead only to deceptive ass-covering responses, as my previous example RIGHT HERE IN THIS COMMENTS SECTION show.

In other words: sometimes it is best not to feed the troll, and just let it sit under the bridge shitting into the water until it dies from malnutrition.

[overmind25]

A long history? What exactly? And you call me the troll? LOL. Look it is people like you regardless of "left", "right", "moderate", "authoritarian", "libertarian" etc that make political discourse difficult. You use hollow words that are semantically problematic and you throw out remarks, insults, and claims that you couldn't possibly back up. Take a look at left libertarianism and maybe you will have a general idea then we can discuss the problems of those like Ed on MSNBC.