Brügger+Thomet mp9

[whiteboypatrickkelly]

aany 1 know how much this gun goes for and where you can buy it?

[SuperRip7]

This gun is so much better than the MP 5. It is perfect for house to house encounters. It has a Picatinny rail which the early MP 5 didn't. Also it is much lighter and doesn't use that weird charging handle.

[ThePimpdaddy187]

whats the largest capacity magazine for that. Would it accept a double stacker 50 round in any calibre?

[NathanielOfLight]

@ThePimpdaddy187 Magazines are pretty universal, you could put a 100 rd drum in this if you wanted to. It is only chambered in 9MM though...

[ThePimpdaddy187]

@NathanielOfLight Yeah thanks buddy, decided against buying this weapon

[ihatemonkeyslayerz]

I wanted to type in TMP to see it in live fire, But im forced to type MP9 cuz of all the CoD tards.... Why Cant I just see the ACTUAL Gun in action? Not a damn game.

[yourmomwasherelol]

i like how the gun barely has any recoil

[jonasldg]

is he busy???

[SgtZaqq]

Is it really uses short recoil operation? I don't see barrel moving

[SuperMoongazer]

@SgtZaqq Yes, it really does.

[curseofa5r5a]

exelente smg !!!!

[911mykidsdead]

waist.....

[siggibiggy]

isnt mp9 and tmp the same?

[phlemphlin]

This gun is a really fun one to shoot. semi-auto however, we are in canada. haha. if anyone is looking on buying one and your in the okanogan region, try BearCreekSports. ca or the store bearcreeksports in kelowna BC

[purpleravenstar]

ahhhh. finally, a real shooting video of the B+T MP9, not airsoft shit. Seriously.

[MrJiggles799]

Amazing gun.. looks like burst fire on full auto is easier to make possible on this system than the TMP. Nice.

[IronJackalTw]

Civilian version of Brugger & Thomet MP9 is the Brugger & Thomet TP9!

Yes, B&T MP9 is improved version of Steyr TMP DESIGN with side-folding buttstock and picatinny rail for the red-dot scope!

B&T TP9 have the trademark vertical grip removed to market it as semi-auto pistol! However, it still have the picatinny rail on bottom to attach flashlight and laser pointer!

Shooting Brugger & Thomet TP9....

v=cBE5SSSqsf0

B&T TP9 will shoot 9mm and 6.5×25mm CBJ!! >=)

[KarlNemetski]

I have read some utter stupid comments and remarks from various dumbass kids on this thread. Read up on Brugger & Thomet. These guns are not toys you stupid fucks. They might look like toys to you and it might seem like fun and games, but that is because you are dumb fucks who have no idea as to what you are talking about. The TP9 for example is a cutting-edge weapon used by SpecOPs and trained assassins.

[IronJackalTw]

KarlNemetski,

This is INTERNET (CYBERSPACE) and access by millions daily around the world!!

Video Game FIREARMS are way more popular than REAL FIREARMS on the General Public!!

The reason that Video Game FIREARMS can not always accurately model the REAL FIREARMS is because they will GET SUED by FIREARMS MAKERS!

This is why Video Game MAKERS would model those REAL FIREARMS as incorrectly as possible, which created the General IGNORANCE on REAL FIREARMS! =/

[KarlNemetski]

@

IronJackalTw Really? After all my work in Weapons Intelligence... Gee! I would have never guessed. You sure schooled me man.

[AdmiralGST]

okay you sir are a Mall ninja

[KarlNemetski]

@AdmiralGST oh yes absolutely a "Mall ninja"

It's funny that you would discount the Brugger and Thomet official Web site by your own statement indicating that the TP9 is "NOT" used by specops when the company, Brugger and Thomet CLEARLY, says that it is. LMAO! The irony here is inane. You, Sir, seem to have more knowledge about the TP9 than the gun makers themselves. For that reason, I consider myself to have been enlightened by your wisdom and guidance. A person learns somethin' new each day

[AdmiralGST]

ever heard of self promoting? One company said how his weapons were being used by mall cops that dealt with the russian mafia, rebels from other contries, snipers, and many other things on a daily basis.

[AdmiralGST]

oh yeah and the website says it was designed for (reffering to the MP9) VIP protection, special forces, etc. not used by.

[AdmiralGST]

lol the TP9 is not a weapon used by assassins or specops, if anything they would use the select fire MP9. Cutting edge weapon? Its mean't for personal defense.

[zombie133]

looked good I have a eotech sight on mine

[kjsh987]

wel i have to say that looks a nice gun.better than a intra tec 9 offcourse

[AdmiralGST]

the tec 9 is a simple open bolt submachine gun that is unreliable.

[KrazyKuul111]

that gun sounds awesome, they matched it up pretty good in rainbow six vegas

[Janglez311]

isnt the mp9 another version of the Steyer TMP? Because the Ruger MP9 is like way different then both of them

[seriousGeex]

@Janglez311

the BT MP9 is a modified version of the Steyr TMP. The Ruger MP9 is a different gun and is based on the UZI.

[mosestheleader25]

@seriousGeex where did you buy your mp9? does it come with full auto? is it availible to civilians?

[airsoftdude1990]

@mosestheleader25 In the USA anything full auto made after 1986 is highly restricted, and even if it was semi auto only the stock and grip would classify it as a short barreled rifle, which itself is also restricted. So in other words you arent getting one unless you have hook ups with the government : (

[NILLA000ARMS]

@airsoftdude1990 actually its pretty easy to do paperwork airsoftdude. but 200buck tax stamp

[101andrewj]

@airsoftdude1990 thats not true, with the right licences and permits, in many states a civilian can own automatic and compact firearms

[patsfanczar]

The TMP design was sold to Brueger + Thomet, and they made some upgrades to it, such as a picatinny rail on top and a side folding stock.

[greatestsongsofLIFE]

This gun was Featured in "Perfect Dark" on N64

[TheBelva85]

The tmp was featured not the mp9.

[swedishvolvo]

Is this better then an uzi?

[bowtiebird]

helll yes way better but youre gonna pay the price for better

[alchemist889]

I'd love a full auto MP9... not too sure what the point of a semi-auto MACHINE pistol is, though.

[AdmiralGST]

its not a machine pistol if it lacks full auto, and they are mostly fun guns for shooters and collectors.

[leaderproful]

i have got a webSIGHT too, where you can bye dictionarys for you

[Halomaster1006]

i have a websight where you can buy one

[fatoni698]

Has anybody here shot one of these? Are they worth getting in semi auto only?

[seriousGeex]

they are fun in semi auto....especially when you aren't allowed to own fully-auto guns....

[fatoni698]

Is it worth it though? I mean if its semi auto its basically just a large pistol. What is the msrp? Thanks

[seriousGeex]

it is if you buy a semi-auto mp9...but if you buy a tp9(the pistol model) then it's not. I don't know anything about the MSRP but in Switzerland you can buy a semi-auto for 1800Sfr. ~1400 USD

[fatoni698]

Ya I wouldn't be buying the pistol version. I live in Canada so I don't have to worry about Americas short barreled rifle laws. Thanks. By the way how hard is it to immigrate to Switzerland? haha

[seriousGeex]

Actually I am Swiss^^

[fatoni698]

Ya I know, I want to be too. Is it easier to immigrate if you have a degree?

[merkak134]

the mp9 look the same as the tmp

[FiveSevenFiveSeven]

The MP9 is basically a new and improved version of the TMP made by a different company who bought the rights to do so.

[HiCapacity]

Oh god.

[merkak134]

i found out its the steyr tmp

[AdmiralGST]

probably had a different name because they don't want a lawsuit. why do you think the glock is never called a glock in a game?

[SpartanDara117]

i know right. Always called g18 in MW2. you know if you look at the side of the g18 in MW2, it says Gluke instead of Glock lol

[AdmiralGST]

Its licensing issues that prevents it from being call glock, and the gun is really a Glock 17.

[SpartanDara117]

No, I am talking about the Glock 18, which is the fully automatic variant. It really exists. And i know about the licensing issues, it was kind of you to tell me :)

[AdmiralGST]

Well the gun on MW2 is a post factory conversion of a Glock 17 to full auto. If it was a Factory job with the selector switch on the side of the slide, it would be a Glock 18. Some europeans are able to freely own automatics like Glock 18s.

[SpartanDara117]

Yes, I actually knew that lol. I just didn't fell like typing it haha. Also, Glock 18's aren't offered in the Olive Drab color scheme from MW2. But Glock 17's are offered in Olive Drab. Further proving the Glock in MW2 is actually a G17, not G18

[AdmiralGST]

At first thats what I thought, But on team Glock's website they offer them with OD frames and I believe desert tan aswell.

[opmike343]

Also of note is the M9 in the game is actually a 92SB. Easily to tell with the curved trigger guard instead of the flat/serrated one on the M9/92F/92FS

[SpartanDara117]

Yah, there are a lot of stupid mistakes. Although if one does not have a careful eye, he wouldn't notice

[FiveSevenFiveSeven]

One of my favorite guns. I gotta get a TP9 some day.

[heat45jc]

brugger & thomet tp9 is allowed in canada with the folder and foregrip.....but it's limitied to hold only 10 fucking rounds.

[DrDoobs420]

well buddy, thats 10 headshots in the right hands lol. Or are you planning on taking down an army?

[Polyshot]

It's 5 rounds because it has a stock so it is classified as a rifle.....

of course, unless you happens to got some Steyr SPP mags laying around........ or someone eventually bring-in the US version of the TP-9 pistols along with their 10 round mags......

[fatoni698]

*sigh*, how hard is it to understand Canadian gun laws? It can hold TEN shots, same as the AR15. ANYTHING that is classified as restricted can hold a maximum of 10 shots. Does it look like it's barrel is longer than 18.5 inches? Does it look like its over 26 inches when the stock is folded? No, so its restricted and thus can hold 10 rounds. And another thing, people in Richmond suck ass at driving haha.

[Polyshot]

Enlighten me if you EVER seen TP9 mags that have 10 round capacity...... like I said, the TP9s that we got ARE NOT pistols......it is a shoulder-fired, centre-fire, semi-auto firearm thus it has 5 round capacity.

Our AR15s now have 10 round mags because they are designed(and appropriately marked) to be used with AR15 "pistols" and they happens to functions with full-size variants of AR15s.

And no, not all people in Richmond are crappy drivers.

Dickhead,

[fatoni698]

aahh see but they do have 10 round magazines because the tp9 comes as a pistol version as well .... Although I will admit I was wrong about all restricted weapons having 10 rounds. But Richmond drivers still suck.

[Polyshot]

Firstly I must apologize for the slightly strong word that I used upon you...... but so far no one bothered to bring in the bastardized American version since we are able to get the "normal" ones......if we're getting the 10 round mags for TP9, news will spread out fast just like the LAR-15 mags......

About the proficiency of the Richmond drivers..... are you speaking of your personal experience?

[fatoni698]

Yeea, one day I was driving home from work and some asshole drove up the left turn lane coming in my direction haha. Still makes me laugh though.

[Skiller2000]

It looks just like a micro uzi

[nineonmychest]

i know

[americanpatriot46]

but better...

[americanpatriot46]

but better

[loadrunnr]

sexy

[snooper549]

is that made by H&k?

[Demo9237]

are you retarded?

[snooper549]

quite frankly im not, im just curious

[snooper549]

nvm im retarded...

[americanpatriot46]

no...Bügger

[commandopengi]

damn, its really small.

[MonnCoant]

Tiny little thing innit...how much would one of these suckers cost?

[tachikoma22]

I saw one in Kentucky a few days ago that was going for about $1400 i think. I can't recall if it was a semi auto only though :(

[AdmiralGST]

it was a semi.

[heat45jc]

you wrote "...not a mp9" when you should be using "an" >>not an mp9

[Panssarikauhu88]

LOL americanos arguing xD and now i drawmyself to it hahah when weapns missing O even idiot understands its meaning *weapOns*

(the whining starts) HAH HA HI HI HIIIII!!!

[GaussRifleGrunt]

lolwut

[wackcarrier]

thats a mp7 not a mp9

[seriousGeex]

no.....it's a MP9!!!!!!

[zman6033]

i can t belive he mistuck that for an mp7 what a dumb ass

[seriousGeex]

strangly many people mistuck these two weapons.......

I don't know why...except that they may have heard of the mp9 in the 4.6x30mm catridge.....but this was a project, which has been cancled..

[murlow01]

You are an idiot!

that is a

B&T MP9

Not an

HK MP7

I know because i own a B&T TP9 (Civilian Semi auto Version)

[RogueSpear55]

Isn't this considered one of the fastest firing submachine gun in the world? All I know is that is can spit out those rounds lol.

[SaintOfGrey]

Don't forget about the Mac11

[RogueSpear55]

true

[marck0200]

barbarian gun :p

[typecsi]

Isnt this a B&T TP9?

[VicariousReality7]

What? That's the civilian version.

[IronJackalTw]

VicariousReality7,

Can the B&T TP9 be converted to B&T MP9?

Kind of like HK USC converted to HK UMP!!

I always wanted one, since I ever played it on Counter-Strike 1.6!!

[seriousGeex]

in cs1.6 it's not the MP9...it's its predecessor..the Steyr TMP.

I don't think you can convert it...

[IronJackalTw]

seriousGeex,

What's the difference between M16 and AR15? AR15 is the civilian model of M16!

B&T MP9 is just an improvement of Steyr TMP with stock and rails on it, but it's still same family of firearm! It's not like they redesign the entire firearm from the scratch!

If B&T engineering is good, they would reduce the RATE of FIRE on the MP9!  Noticed how hard he is trying to hold the firearm steady until he pop out the stock!!

[dancin0in0the0ml]

um...that's why they have the semi-auto selection on it. FUll auto isn't supposed to be steady, it's supposed to put alot of rounds down range in a short period of time, not for accuracy.

[Nikos1942]

the AR-15 was made earlier. the M-16 is the military dasignation for a later version that was improved and made better for use in vietnam. and no, if B&T engineering was any good, they would increase the distance from the chamber to the muzzle by making it a bullpup design like the MP7, or making the felt recoil less by integrating a vertical line of travel for the bolt after extracting the spent casing, which would counteract some of the muzzle climb. but don't ask me, they're the experts...

[bigbrusko]

isnt the mp9 made by hk?

[Dilo22]

No. It was originally made by Steyr I believe and called the TMP, then B+T bought it from them or something and called it the MP9. Or maybe it was the other way around. But no H&K doesn't make it. Weird though I know, MP5>MP7>shouldn't MP9 be made by HK too? :P

[Vinnland88werewolf]

MP isn't specific to H&K, all MP means is Machine Pistol

[seriousGeex]

Brügger+Thomet bought a the rights and licences from STEYR. Then theyimproved the TMP and redesigned it...voilà the MP9 was born....

[Dilo22]

That's what I said... yes

[jojoborre]

pretty gun.

[venusaline]

depois ainda falam que no Brasil não tem nada...aff

Não sabem o que é mp9?tsc tsc...

[rampe9]

lol thats not MP7 :D it is MP9

[jacknickhole]

and to think that is a gun made in switzerland after all it's not made by H&K.

[masicklazik]

That's an MP7A1 With AGOG SCOPE AND HIGH_CAP..

IM SURE.

AAAAANNNNDDDD it's a SUBMACHINE GUN ! :D

[killa59er]

that not a mp7 at all mp7 is longer

[masicklazik]

sorry !

d'dnt even read !

lol

i know its an Mp9 why da heck did i think it was mp7 , its not the same gun at all !

[bigbobkropp]

Thats not an ACOG either dawg. Too small for an ACOG. If i had to place a bet i would say Aimpoint red dot of some sort.

[jada1771]

lol masic go play sum more vegas 2

[csnations92]

is the mp9 smaller than the tmp?

[seriousGeex]

no, because the MP9 is just an improved tmp!

[csnations92]

improved in which way?

[seriousGeex]

Well there`s the new stock that folds to the right side and an integrated Picatinny rail. Other minor modifications were made such as a 'safety trigger' similar in design to a Glock pistol.

[gamerkid123123123]

a lil bigger

[PassionStone]

It seems the barrel is 5.12" 6 groove, right hand twist, which would not improve torque ( since the barrel rotates clockwise) Now if they had made the barrel unlock counter- clockwise...it would counter torque! but might affect bullet spin :(

[PassionStone]

actually, I learned that it is delayed blowback by a rotating barrel.

[PassionStone]

Very cool...I like it...but I'd probably break it :(

[Wii60]

These things are rugged, they are designed to take some punishment in harsh conditions.

[PassionStone]

I think this might have a rotating bolt, & I've busted rollers in MP5's from using +p+ NATO ammo w/ the wrong locking pc. etc. I just stay away from any SMG with delayed blowback/rotating bolt, roller locks, etc.

[Wii60]

It actually uses a straight-blowback rotating barrel, quite different from the MP5.

[PassionStone]

I wonder why the barrel rotates, since the operation is straight blowback rather than delayed blowback. Perhaps the barrel rotates to counter the axial force vector/torque for better control. The Micro UZI uses ported muzzle cuts to create an angular check against clockwise torque, but a counter rotation to check torque would be better...although more prone to damage/wear.

[olbertus]

I read a shooting report a few years back that said the rotating barrel creates a forward impulse when firing on full auto that help keep this gun very controllable. Apparently the SAS recently adopted it which is a pretty glowing endorsement in my book.

[PassionStone]

whats is the fire selection? safe, single, and 3-burst?

[Wii60]

Just semi-auto and fully-auto. There is no safety; it has a 'safety trigger' similar to a Glock.

IMO all SMGs/rifles should have a safety as the trigger is not usually covered by a holster. Still a cool little SMG regardless though.

[obiwan168]

Seems like a perfect weapon for body guards, high-rate of fire, fairly accurate, and concealable.

[nightfire6]

MP9- unarmored targets

MP7- armored targets.

They have different roles.

[Guppy420]

made by 2 completley different companies, Shut Up

[drobei]

aint that a Steyr TMP?

[JaredinTX92]

TMP? Nah', that's a MP9. It sure looks like one, doesn't it?

[seriousGeex]

yeah..it is a newer version of the tmp. Steyr sold all the licenses to Brugger+Thomet and they redesigned it!

[owenbreon]

there is not much difference between these two weapons .. originally it was designed in austria .. by steyr .. but export problems (strange austrian laws) made them sell the whole thing to Brügger+Thomet.

[Macovic]

na, but quite similar

[TechGuyatNY]

gross, fast motion

[civilianhandgunner]

Very handy gun and easy to to operate. I would say that it was love at firt sight. The maintenance costs are relatively low. The gun has never disapointed myself. That's everything you need for personal defence.

[seriousGeex]

vo wo hesch de du dini Mp9? Joray?

[civilianhandgunner]

Genau gesagt schiesse mit der Zivielversion, also der TP9. Preis sFr. 1900, im CH Fachhandel erworben, hoffentlich bleibt die Gun weiterhin so preiswert.

[irthrish]

I want one mp9!

[SPeacock]

I like the MP9 - almost everyone knows what it is - If I say "MP9" they'll think "Brugger and Thomet - the new TMP gun".

[youwho2212]

That happened to me the other day! I love the MP9. have you seen the new video on the BATF? Called "The Gang"

its pretty interesting thegangmovie dot com check it out

[owenbreon]

originally the name of this gun was Steyr TMP

(Austrian)Steyr sold all patents to (Swiss)Brügger+Thomet

they called it MP9

it is not related in any way to the german heckler and koch sub machine gun family.

[creationode]

the MP7 and the MP9 look similar. the MP7 is a bit larger? from playing the game Rainbow 6 Vegas, i can see. the game has very accurate renditions of the weapons, for the haters out there whom might say something...

[motokyoto]

thats a mp7

[ohuyfdtestrsfjhg]

idiot,

mp7 is made by keckler&KOCH AND LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS

[SeiferAlmasy911]

You're retarded. That's a Brugger+Thornet MP9.

[georgebradley92]

Quite nice on Rainbow six vegas too. Looks nice but I prefer something a bit bigger. xm8 maybe...

[GrottyWanker69]

XM8 doesn' texist the project was canceled.

[georgebradley92]

why?

[GrottyWanker69]

The handguards kept melting and problems with the barrels and jamming.

[georgebradley92]

hanguards kept melting...could be a bit of a problem then! thanks for the info-thats my new knowledge for the day.

[GrottyWanker69]

Anytime.

[Wii60]

That's bull, they had minor issues that were ironed out anyway. The XM8 (which is just a G36) was a very fine firearm, the only reason it was canceled was because the US military weren't prepared to ditch their M4/M16s and spend the money either. The XM8 scored highest on the 'dust test' last year, and it is not completely canceled; HK still has it out the back for later, I actually held one last year.

[seriousGeex]

well, I also think that the mp9 is very good submachine gun, it also exists in 4.6x30mm!!! but it is not available yet.....

[JayRitzy]

Mad accurate Sub.

[GrandMasterUz]

you should have just emptied one whole clip on automatic instead of bursts

[porschenut911]

same idea as the H&k MP7 only in 9mm instead of 4.6 X 30mm. Interesting.

[SeiferAlmasy911]

If I remember correctly the MP7 came out AFTER the MP9 so if that's true it couldn't have been based on / inspired by the MP7.

[wussupmonkey]

the mp7 shoots 5.56 rounds and doesnt this use 9mm? and the mp7 with its ammunition it would seem that it had came out before the mp9. and 7 comes before 9

[SeiferAlmasy911]

The MP7 shoots 4.6mm or something like that, not 5.56mm, and yes, the MP9 is 9mm.

Seven comes before nine, yes, but they're made by two different companies so that doesn't matter.

[GroveCDN]

That would be impossible to do.

As this MP9 does not fire from a clip.

[tlott00]

yes it does cock sucka

[nightfire6]

Clip-use to load bullets into magazine

Magazine-Loads bullets into gun.

[SeiferAlmasy911]

You're a retard. Make sure you know what the fuck you're talking about before you open your mouth. Clips and magazines are NOT the same thing.

[york124]

nice little machine pistol

[SeiferAlmasy911]

Technically it's a sub machinegun, not a machine pistol.

[wussupmonkey]

it is a smg but mp stands for machine pistol. im not sure that the initials mp should stand for that with the mp5

[SeiferAlmasy911]

MP stands for Machinen Pistole, German for machine gun.

[vasquez2001]

MP stands for Maschinenpistole, directly translated machine pistol. The english word for MP is submachinegun.

[drobei]

no maschinen pistole is Submachine gun and not machine gun