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  • Fairly newbie Eldar player, thank you very much for the tactic vids. Helpful and informative! :)

  • Always had my SM buddies (wolves 13th co., Death co., And blk temps) tell me i dont wanna bring in the banshees cuz i wouldnt survive combat... but the more i see these (btw i am so blushing over Joe's mastery) the more confident I'm becoming that i can use my fire dragons, avengers and banshees to ride around in serpents with EMLs instead of reapers (had to do that in an all infantry battle; i got crushed (still learning) by wolves w/ 3 priests ouch) but my reapers and scorps kicked ass)

  • he forgot to mention that once they charge into combat the banshees can then dart out of combat

  • @thedarknesscallingme

    Dart out of combat? Sure they can, when they kill stuff or run away, they don't have hit&run

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  • how does close combat work.. pleasr help me anyone who reads this. in the codex, they have 1 attack, do they get another attack for charging? or does having a pistol and power weapon count as 2 close combat weapons so they get +1 attack. so 3 attacks on the charge???? im so unbeleviably confused. please help me :/

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  • @BeTheBe5t 1 basic plus pistol plus charge three attacks on charge

  • @BeTheBe5t it´s not. You have your own basic 1 A... plus another 1 A because you have a "pistol" weapon and (any) close combat weapon...be it power weapon,powerfist, whatever... plus as always another 1 A when you charge something. Easy like that...

  • Do striking Scorpions!

  • hes only a head taller

  • I really appreciate the videos you guys do and you have a lot of great tips. I just feel like most of the videos could be cut down to 3 minutes without the repeats (I know I gotta kill the enemy before they get to attack, but thanks for the 10 reminders haha). Either way thanks for the posts!

  • 9 Dying Space Marine disliked the video.

    Their sergeant run off balding and screaming like a little virgin that he is.

  • Im wondering why you need to put them in a transport,I thought they cant assault after getting out so wont they just be sitting ducks until your next turn?.

    srry im still new to the game so can some1 explain this to me lol

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  • @thecolorshade because theyre not fast enough to make it across the battlefield without being shot up otherwise

  • joe I hate your hair (im sorry but you where just asking for it) ps my necrons will own your eldar any day

  • joe I hate your hair (im sorry but you where just asking for it)

  • Joe i love you hair :P

  • Thunder hammer storm shields!

  • I wanna work there :(

  • OMG soo many cut's >.<

  • nice shirt

  • lol 2:35

  • nurgle marines are sexy not banshess sheesh

  • mirror swords :P

  • @pvthudson01 So fucking true.. For the craftworld of biel tan!

  • @Skillzdispair go biel tan finally i find someone else whose biel tan

  • How can i paint them ulthwe????

  • In Dawn of War 2 Howling Banshees are also badass

  • They're called lightsabers! :D

  • I play both Eldar and SoB, and I would not recommend attacking anything with faith if they have points to spend on it. The SoB have a nullification against units that have power weapons. They make their armor saves into invulnerable saves for one phase. so a 3+ stays the same, a HQ with a 2+ stays a 2+ invulnerable. my 3k "ard boyz list has like 18 faith at the start of the game and like 16 or 17 more as units die.

    That ability to save that unit cost 1, and is totally worth it.

  • haha. you guys are such nerds!

  • 8 people will face the power of Bladestorm :D

  • does Banshee Mask make Banshees attack first, even if they are getting assaultet ? .. i dont get it, is it only when the Banshees assault some1 or is it also when they are getting assaultet

  • @usernaameunavailable In the first turn they always strike at initiative 10

  • When I was paintballing, I did a really high pitch scream, it literally incapacitates people long enough to shoot them

  • @cerelilqt Won't work on Tyranids though. They'll just shoot back. Next time you go paintballing, equip a rosarius. It gives you a 4+ invulnerable save.

  • @Jadandlud I haven't had encountered Tyranids while paintballing.... yet.

    I'll just go Eldrad mode and fortune myself, 3+ rerollable invun =D

  • blood angels are better than space marines

  • always angry all the time

  • does the different wargear options (mirror swords) come in the box or do i have to make a conversion???!

  • ha ha joe is short

  • Watch this with the beta transcribe audio captions. Hilarious as hell!

  • i love how these tactics also work on dawn of war

  • Stirking Scorpion Tactics please

  • .........FOTFLOL. "Banshees don't put out as much". That's all I heard.

  • Okay, I bought my first Warhammer shit and I chose Eldar (that's why im watching this). I bout the battle force, fire prism, and a banshee squad. I know that I don't have a lot but what else should i get around 150 bucks?

  • @TomFuIp your probably a retarded 12 year old

  • They remind me of the Na'vi? Lawlz Yeh i might make a conversion

    Anyway Banshees Are Sexy Joe So Dont Worry ^^ =P

  • In short, if you are not up against sisters of sorority, dont use banshees. Against marines/chaos/necron, youll need Farseer support anyway to hurt their superior Toughness, so why not save the Banshee points for a Seer Council?

    Guards, Nids, Orcs, Dark Eldar dont rely on fat armour, so the Power weapons lose their purpose. Whats left? A Tau, who forfeits tanks, fire warriors and mercenaries to go Battlesuits only?

  • Banshees are pointless. Firedragons are way better. I take 3 squads all in wave serents, eldrad and a fareseer. My list has never lost a game and I've played easy over 100 games with it! Insanly funny when you see some guy so confident he's gunno win and then I blow apart his 3 fav units in turn 1 lol. I played a ork guy who had some insane mob and I took it down with eldrads unit alone.

  • Take Harlequins with the Kisses, Troupemaster with PW and Shadowseer. Doesnt need a transport, can't be shot and if you're lucky they get not a single shot or strike back at you. And they have Furious Charge. They can act as Banshees or as Scorpions so they win. Still a good idea to take Banshees!

  • i love your hair joe!

  • lol "the X is for sexy."

  • I'm sorry but space marines aren't for retarted 12 year olds because I play space marines and I'm not retarded.

  • i just got an eldar battle force today can someone tell me wat to get next plz i am new to eldar

  • @samuelwarhammer40k get sum more avengers

  • hi im 12 i like tham but not that much eldar bettar

  • joe i love your hair, i want sideburns like urs.

  • I have the same shirt as that..

  • funny thing i play Chaos and Eldar ((SPECIAL THANKS TO DAVE AND JOE)) BECAUSE NOW I TEAR MY ENEMIES APART WITH BANSHEE'S AND DARK REAPERS / (( TO DAVE )) YOUR TACTICS HELPED ME TEAR APART THIS IG PLAYER THAT'S BEEN PISSING ME OFF.

  • holy shit I used to own that shirt

  • holy shit I used to own that shirt!

  • Call me nuts but I agree that howling banshees without helmets are almost attractive...

  • @TheFoilGuy you're nuts :P

  • Mirror Swords

  • my dark eldar wyches kick banshees ass. (Y)

  • PERSONALY I LIKE CHAOS THE ONLY REASON I WOULD LIKE ELDAR IS i think that it would be fun to paint

  • I really dont agree with joe when he says that banshees dont work against genestealers. The good thing about genestealers is that they allways hit first, and with many atacks. But, as banshees ALWAYS atack first, you can totally rape them. I have done it many times against my brother.

  • I wouldn't necessarily say that you wouldn't want them locked in combat. You want them locked in combat for 1 turn so that the turn they win combat is your opponents. That way you wont get shot to pieces in your opponents turn and you'll be able to charge again in your own turn. It works pretty well.

  • lol pause 3:31

  • not every one likes eldar, personally, i've just started collecting them and am in love with the smooth lines and wonderful colours. However, there are some people who cant stand them, hey, thats cool (not go to hell you weirdo's) but personally i like the hit 'n' run style of attack.

  • UMMMMM my banshees blew against termis today BUT i sent in 1 scorpian and the exarch with a scoprian claw AND i killed a unit of 5 it was pretty sick

  • 9 Banshees, Exarch with Executioner, then add Jain Zar, you have the nuts of a close combat squad, they can kill anything, pretty much.

  • dont take mirror swords or executioner, take the triskelle, you'll get to use it before you assault and its stats will count for more succesful attacks than you'll get off in CC because you hit on a 2+ and you fire it three times, you lose the extra attacks in subsequent turns of assault but you SHOULD NOT be assaulting something thats gonna survive your first turn. which is why dooming the squad your going after is an absolute must.

  • Orcs are best for noobs. You don't use many tactics

  • @MrPooned It all depends on what kind of ork army you build. The classic ork horde does not take a great deal of tactics, but a more fragile KoS or hybrid ork army requires a lot of tactics. Also, a horde army does not take a lot of skill to beat, unless you play the anti-MEQ game, while a hybrid or KoS army is far more capable of dealing with most other armies.

  • @MrPooned I would say Space Marine. Because they are very forgiving with that armor save

  • @scottnissen necrons are more forgiving as they have the wwb rule

  • @itsthechaoticdave I did not even think of that. But it's true come to think of it

  • @scottnissen necrons are more forgiving as they have the wwb rule

  • i dont even play eldar but howling banshees make me moist lol

  • U mentioned Striking Scorpians a lot in this vid;

    Y havent u made a Battle Tactic X 4 them yet????

  • Im going to start eldar and i was wondering if this is a good list to start with-

    1) Avatar

    2) Battleforce

    3) Wraithlord

    4) Howling Banshees

    5) fire prism

    6) Fire dragons

    can anyone tell me if there are any problems with it. Thanks =]

  • Avatar are worthless inless its a big game, get a farseer.

  • ok thanks for the help. but why are avatars bad?

  • oh and another thing which farseer. one with a spear or a staff?

  • Avatars are a little bit of a points sink (155 points is a lot for a single model, even with 4 wounds). Its slow, I've played games against Eldar Players where its taken 3 turns before its even managed to let off its rather short range Wailing Doom weapon (12"). Then it tends to die, as its a massive cannon magnet. Farseer is fewer points, better powers, can be put in a transport and while its not as tough, is a much better single model points wise. Also I'd say a staff, more psykery.

  • Sorry to double post but otherwise that Army list is excellent, couple of Guardian units in the battleforce, Wraithlord and Fire Prism and big hitters, Banshees are bitches (see vid) and Fire Dragons are good anti-vehicle. Good start, try it out

  • you should get some wave serpents for those banshees and fire dragons and for your other HQ you should get a farseer and warlock body guard or Fuegan

  • Lol "And daves throwing Mike n' Ike's on the floor..." *Sigh* lol

  • Um... Im not sure if this was adressed but acrobatic does not do what he said anymore, it changed to the counter assault ability. Which when assaulted if you pass a leadership you get an extra attack as if you assaulted which makes it almost a must since it is only 5 points

  • so how would you field howling banshees? in a tank ? even if you field them in a tank they can't assult when they first come out what would you suggest?

  • i ahve a 1200pt ork army 100pt necron.1000space marinine somehow??i dont know it was kinda just there the whole time ivebean playing

  • Lol 3:35

    new meaning to mini-wargaming

  • i love necron so i gotta study this so i can destroy all eldar >:3

  • I was a Necron player.

    Now I am Eldar, the variety and just everything about the Eldar I feel outshine the basic fluff and small number of units the Necrons had. Easily hands down.

  • generaly your always gonna go before termi's most people use thunder hammers/storm shield and or powerfists so they will have in. of 1

  • im gonna start 40k what should i pick eldar or tau or maybe necrons? pls respond.

  • Go with necrons i have 5,000 points and i just beat the sh** out of enemies and shoot and flay their flesh!!!!!!!

  • Also the most static and easy army to play.

    Basically the only reason you win is because you have lots of warriors or you get lucky on we'll be back, alos nearly all the Necron players ive beaten have not told me about the Phase out even tho i already know, so i dont like Necrons all their players, because theyr emostly liars, cheaters, or only play the army because they dont fucking die, and they alos scream out for otehrs to play as them on different races videos(cough cough)

  • Choose what you like, not whats best, its how you play an army not what their rules are.

  • tau are cool

  • Eldar are cooler =P

  • Im thinking of starting a eldar army and i really dont know much about them. can anyone point me in the right direction of where to go?

  • First buy a codex because A you need it and B it showcases all the units possible. Craftworlds are a great way of helping you decide what path to go as well. I personally like ulthwe so its mainly a guardian force with psykers, but still it all depends on what you like and making your list work together properly.

  • ok, in a howling banshee squad is there only 1 exarch or can you make the whole squad exarches? (sorry for the poor spelling)

  • Like I said...codex :)

  • You should start with space marines, I read the book and it says their recommended for beginners

  • @pvthudson01 grow up,yeah thats it insult children,idiot

  • @pvthudson01 HERE HERE!

  • @pvthudson01 I am 12 but I play Eldar

  • @pvthudson01 no ur just mad cuase they own u XD

  • banshees are the bane of necrons and khorne and many more. but very soft sfdghuhfsduih

  • banshees are the bane of necrons and khorne and many more. but very soft sfdghuhfsduih. why don't you use striking sciopions to slaughter ork shootas. why can't wave serpents deep strike.

  • @pvthudson01 well i made the right choice

  • Joe is indeed the shortest of the Miniwargaming team

  • wtf just get an avatear or a wraithlord they work better than girls really

  • Banshees are great against geenstealers cause they strike first.

  • the banshee behind is model size =P

  • i give this video 5 stars for the great special effects at 33 sec

  • Joe you rule

  • bla bla bla thats just noob tactics. what he told was just what everyone knows, you need to playing experience to know that, 1 look in the codex is enough. -_-

    a really interesting question wpuld be: how do I manage that my banshees survive 1 turn after leaving the serpent so they can attack? because units that leave a serpent cant attack this turn. if i drop banshees in the enemy they will be shot down and die.

  • drop them behind your serpent, serpent offers cover, then next turn move your serpent out of the way and then move and assault.

  • thank you for the answer pyromaster55.

    when I wrote my last post I didnt know the rules of edition 5 completely. now i know that i can fly the serpent close to the target and he gets a svaing trow in the enemy turn from its speed. in my next turn before the serpent moves the banshees may leave with their normal 6" movement and attack in the melee phase. :)

    befor i thought they limited every movement to 2" and no ameleeattack when leaving a closed carrier.

  • How would they fare against Dark eldar Wyches.

  • 50/50.....Dark Eldar Byches are a pain & they have certain things in common.....

  • the next video should be either reapers, or warp spiders.

  • 6:46 Brilliant! and when I say that I mean sure: try it. I really can't see Banshee's geting things done against sisters of battle. the only way you can reallu swing it is if you assult a full strength unit of them, and even then it's only going to work if they don't have littanies of faith.Even then you are sacrificing the unit as soon as combat.

    I think I'd prefere to have scorpions against sisters of battle.

  • Really? Sisters suck in close combat. Sisters are the one unique army in which they're neither good at long range firefights (24"-48") or close combat (base to base). their magic number is 3"-18". Trust me if you enter that range you will die against sisters

  • even though i'm a nid player i still find these videos very entertaining. also, is everyone who works at MiniWarGaming jacked? you both looked ripped at 3:38 and i just thought it was funny lol.

  • My striking scorpions got owned by a squad of terminators last night, wish I had seen this first. Thanks for the tactics guys.

  • Gotta outmaneuver them big termies that just want to give you a gruesome bear hug with their lightning claws/chainfists. Howling Banshees will cut through em like a hot knife through butter if he's unlucky.

  • reapers will handle those. so will a nice star cannon.

  • vyper tactics

  • lol my space marines are the ultimate blitzkreig even against eldar :)

  • Joe I love your hair and stuff

  • Banshees must get support from Doom.

    And must not be on foot only.

  • striking scorpions tactica and swooping hawks!!!

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  • tactics for terminators? just move them up, shoot everything in their way and avoid lascannons

  • you want lots of termies, do dark angels, Deathwing.

  • more tactics X

  • Mirror swords

  • SHINING SPEAR TACTICA PLZ

  • also, i thought acrobatic was counter charge :/

  • hawks are simple, they kill tanks, and are about the only thing eldar have for anti monolith. i tend to see people using them with an autarc with fusion blaster (an the +1 to reserves rule) skyleapin them after each tank kill

  • Make more of thous films!!! for example about hawks:)

  • Those look like the most Blunt Blades ive ever seen

  • i can't find the comment anymore, but to whoever said eldar depend on their transports is dead wrong.

  • Joe I love your hair... :-)

  • Fought today and Banshees took an entire squad of Orks and Chaos HQ unit in a single attack, gotta love those masks coupled to the War Shout of the Exarch.

  • Oh, and make sure you take Jain Zar if you can afford her, I was in a battle against a horde of Tyranids, alongside Ultramarines, and we won, why? Because while the Terminators had the Tyrant guard occupied, Jain Zar and her girls came up behind and WHAM!! No more Hive Tyrant. The Banshees if used right, are deadly.

  • cool

  • yes but if you are attacking a broadside and it has a shield generator it gives the broadside a 3+ invulnerable save

  • 4+ -_-...

  • You forgot one little piece of wargear for the exarch.

    The Triskele, the banshee ninja star that's 12" S:3 Ap:2 Assault 3.

    It's not too amazing but if you shoot it before you assault you pretty much get 3 extra attacks that hit on 2's.

    Combine this with the unit being Doom!ed you get some major crunch against a unit.

  • Can't wait for more Eldar Battle Tactics X! Keep making them!

  • love your hair

  • plz make a battle report againsted dave

  • what do you do when your enemy come back from the dead to kill you ?(necrons)

  • Not going to lie to you, the rumor that Necron's We'll Be Back will be swapped out for Feel No Pain is a little worrying. But honestly, as it is, the dead models don't get their attacks so you should be able to beat them in combat, force a pretty hefty moral check, and hopefully catch them in a sweep... and with their Initiative, it shouldn't be too tough.

  • and what do you do when an other warrior squad or destroyers are shooting to your banshees while they are in close combat

  • You can't shoot into close combat.

  • i mean that you are fighting with your banshees a warrior squad and sth else is shooting you . what can you do then?

  • you guys are the best for the sale. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!

  • X is for Sexy. Good video as usual. And my sideburns rule.

  • Joe your sideburns are fake! -Khornate :)

  • I'm going to shave them off just for you ;) and then do a pic a day video to show them growing in ;)

  • Maybe you should by why shave them off? just pull em off they are just stick ons anyway

  • Shaved them off the other day... I look like a total tool... you will see in the next video ;) luckily I won't have to wait long before they come back in ;)