@jib1000 ....That is such a crazy argument from you! Are you kidding me? Paying their taxes as a sign of respect to me? I don't even know where to start! Just Google "Operation Fast and Furious" where our own Justice Dept. used tax money to send untraceable guns to Mexican Narco-Terrorists! How's that for a good use of tax money? Donald Rumsfeld announced on 9-10-01 that the Pentagon could not account for 2 trillion dollars. Next day..whammo...the accounting section gets hit and blown up. Clever
@Laylow4now What does any of that have to do with anything? I don't trust politicians either. They're lying scumbags. Just like kent hovind. Only difference is that politicians don't tell me magical boogiemen in the sky are telling them what to do.
Hovind is a piece of shit. He preys on weak minded (read religious) simpletons who can't think for themselves.
I have met and spoken with Laylow4now. Who seemed like a very genuine and honest person. They were highly intelligent and very respectful. I trust them.
And Laylow has met and spoken with both Eric and Kent Hovind. And said they seem like very genuine and honest people, that both were highly intelligent and very respectful, and trusted them.
And Kent Hovind has met and spoken with the magical boogieman in the sky. And said He seemed like a very genuine and honest God ...
@jib1000 ...You are saying that Hovind has no respect for me, because he does not pay a corrupt tax to the IRS which is actually a criminal enterprise based out of Puerto Rico.
Reagan assigned a team to examine US income tax, and they came back in March of 81 and told him that all 900 Billion a year goes to pay our INTEREST on the debt America owes to the private Fed. Reserve bank. Reagan tried to change that, and he was shot just a short while later, by the son of Bush Sr.'s neighbor. Wake up
@Laylow4now So you don't pay taxes? If so you're a piece of shit too. How is paying off our debt a corruption? Maybe borrowing it wasn't smart, or isn't popular but its certainly not illegal. I tend to think or people who pay their debts as honest people.
Telling people that creationism and religion are right and that science and critical thinking are wrong is immoral and reprehensible. If you want to be religious fine. But don't try to teach people that learning is wrong. Hovind is a scumbag.
@jib1000 ...I do pay my income tax, not because it's right or just, but because the IRS has massive SWAT teams and they would not think twice about bulldozing my little house and destroying my family to get their $.
Secondly, if you understood the history of the Federal Reserve and the fiat money system, you would realize that we never "borrowed" this debt. It came attached to the currency. You tell me to read a science book? Go read a HISTORY book! Our US currency is a slavery system.
@Laylow4now Wow you clearly don't know what a debt is. I'm well aware of the history of paper money, debt, and economics in this country. You clearly aren't. No swat teams aren't involved in recovering taxes.
All of these comments while stupid are also beside the point.
All Americans (whether they agree with the WHY of taxes or not) are MORALLY OBLIGATED to pay taxes. If you don't pay your taxes you're saying you're better than everyone who does. Kent Hovind is clearly NOT better than anyone.
@jib1000 ...Yes, SWAT teams are involved in recovering taxes...Who do you think came to Kent Hovind's house and took him away, along with his wife? The mail main?
As for our currency, every dollar that is loaned to the United States government by the private bank known as the Federal Reserve, has an interest rate attached to it. That means the U.S. has to pay back each dollar to them with interest.
That is a debt. Currently, it is in the multi-trillions.
@jib1000 ...Yes, SWAT teams are involved in recovering taxes...Who do you think came to Kent Hovind's house and took him away, along with his wife? The mail man?
As for our currency, every dollar that is loaned to the United States government by the private bank known as the Federal Reserve, has an interest rate attached to it. That means the U.S. has to pay back each dollar to them with interest.
That is a debt. Currently, it is in the multi-trillions.
@Laylow4now Actually no... SWAT teams are NOT involved in recovering tax evaders. The people who arrested Hovind are called police officers. Why would you need a tactical police force to knock on someones door and put cuffs on them?
I understand what a DEBT is. Why are you trying to convince me about it? What does that have to do with Hovind paying taxes?
@jib1000 .....Because Hovind is in prison for not paying a "tax" that was corrupt from the very start. He accurately followed the statute that says churches are not under the authority of the state. 501c3 is VOLUNTARY. You are probably one of those people who fuss about prayer in schools because of the "separation of church and state" yet you think a church should have to pay tax to the federal government.
Aside from all that, the income tax itself is corrupt all the way around.
@Laylow4now Kent Hovind is not a church. His income from selling books and doing "lectures" is not church. He is supposed to pay taxes. Keep in mind he IS NOT a minister, doesn't have a church, and takes in tons of money every year. He is supposed to pay taxes on that. Claiming that the tax is corrupt, despite the fact that you can't explain why, is no excuse for not paying.
Of course churches should pay taxes. Explain how giving favors to religion is keeping it separate?
@jib1000 ....I already explained why the income tax is totally corrupt. If you still can't believe me, just watch Aaron Russo's film "America: From Freedom to Fascism" on the income tax. He specifically asks the previous head of the IRS, what law states that Americans have to pay income tax? The IRS chairman just laughs at him and tells him in yiddish, "There's no hope for you." Seriously, just watch the movie, and it explains it alot better than I could.
@jib1000 ...Tax is a form of subordination. If someone orders you to pay a tax, then you are subordinate to them. As an example, I cannot go up to the White House and order the President to pay me a tax. He is not subordinate to me.
The IRS, however, can order me to pay a tax, because unfortunately the law says I am subordinate to them.
A church is not subordinate to the government, therefore they cannot rightly be ordered to pay a tax to the government.
@Laylow4now A church IS under the laws of the federal government, it uses their resources. Therefore it should pay taxes.
Your argument about "subordination" if one of the most ridiculous I've ever heard. The president DOES pay taxes. Either way Kent Hovind is not and was not a church or a clergyman therefore he should pay taxes.
@jib1000 ...It really seems that you are being purposefully ignorant here. I said that I cannot make the President or the IRS pay a tax to ME, because they are not subordinate to ME. But both of them have the power to make ME pay a tax to THEM. How do you not see the difference?
Who are you to say Kent Hovind's organization was not a church? He preached, he had followers, and he taught the Bible. How is that NOT a church? Or did you mean "government approved" church?
@Laylow4now Its pretty clear that you're an idiot.
Hovind only taught that scientific facts were wrong, and that the bible is the only "science" anyone needs. That's not teaching, that's brainwashing. Evolution is a fact. We've known that for over 100 years. Hovind taught simpletons that evolution is wrong. That's willfully LYING to people to sell books and videos. Anyone who makes a profit by lying is an immoral piece of shit. Anyone who makes a profit without paying taxes is a criminal.
@jib1000 ......Hovind told the truth. Genesis is accurate, and whatever "facts" we have "known...for over 100 years" will not change the fact that an Almighty Creator made this entire universe 6000 years ago. Hovind questioned Babylon and its rigid soulless dogma.
Keep paying your taxes to Babylon. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve needs it to buy his next yacht.
@Laylow4now Ok so now we find out what really going on. You're a complete moron. Dozens of scientific disciplines show that the earth is more than 6000 years old, that we didn't live with dinosaurs, and that snakes don't talk. Nothing in genesis is scientifically accurate.
I will keep paying my taxes because i don't want a cell next to hovind and because i love my country enough to pay taxes.
Get an education, get a life, and get a clue you idiot.
@jib1000 ....Ok, you don't want to go to prison, and you acknowledge that they will send you there, if you don't pay your taxes. That is called ruling by force.
Secondly, your income tax doesn't go to your "country". It goes to pay the interest on the debt that the U.S. government owes to the private Federal Reserve bank, which prints U.S. currency that comes with a debt attached.
Your attitude seems like you are just willfully ignorant so that you can keep waving the flag in peace.
@Laylow4now Ruling by force???? WTF? Its called living in a country with laws. Also you don't go directly to jail if you don't pay your taxes. You can just pay them if you get caught and have the money. Clearly you don't understand how the government works. All income taxes do not go to the federal reserve. You should probably go do some research (that doesn't mean reading a bible) and find out exactly where taxes go.
The only one of us thats willfully ignorant is you. Creationism is ignorant.
Good ol Eric Hovind, little fuckin nazi runnin around sayin crazy shit. "The question is if dinosaurs ever left! Noah could have fitted baby dinosaurs onto the ark." By merely making the statement and even entertaining it would be proof that things have evolved. But I believe in God because surely nature didnt come up with the idea of his birth
I hope he DOES NOT get the money! Why? Simple the more exposure that IDIOT(like his father)gets in the media the more reinforcement he puts in the bogus brainwashing of people, young and older!
@NUTCASE71733 ..........Really? Nazis were evolutionists. Or did you miss the whole "perfecting the master race" thing while you slept through history class.
And racism? You're kidding right? Google Margaret Sanger for starters. She basically started Planned Parenthood and led the movement for national abortion. She was an atheist false jew, a staunch evolutionist and hard core racist.
Meaning of life? Creationists say you were made in the image of God. I would say that's meaningful.
1: Hitler's nonsense was based on the bible. He says in Mein Kampf he did what he did because he beleived God wanted him to do so. The bible says committing genocide int he name of god is just fine, which shows how fucked up the idea is that Hitler was a advocate for Darwinian evolution (Which he hated, BTW)
2: The bible says to kill unbeleivers if they don't convert.
3: That's arrogance in the highest degree. Last I checked, christians are supposed to be humble.
WTF is this shit? What kind of fucking retarded moron posts vids like this shit on YouTube! He's probably beating off while he's posting this crap! Iron Man?What a fagg! I'll bet he wishes he could have Iron Man's pickle all up in his stinkhole!Or maybe he just has a gay crush on Morton Downey Jr.!
Hovind is a convicted liar and fraud artist in prison after being found guilty on 58 counts in 2006. When a man tries to replace science in our schools with a book that cannot correctly tell the number of legs on an insect it's time for all rational people to speak out. Humans are facing genuine, serious problems. Problems that will not be solved by folding our hands in prayer and hoping some fictitious literary character will swoop down soon and rescue us!
I will send you a power point presentation that recreates the Universe according to how the Bible reads it to be. You will see that the Universe that God created in the Bible is NOT the Universe we live in. (FYI: The 2 Heavens is 1.) The Atmosphere, 2. The solid dome sky, and 3.) Heaven of Heavens (We call it outerspace), the place where God lives. The Bible reads nothing about it being on a spiritual level and according to a literal interpretation, it is right above the solid sky dome.)
Aparantly you are creating your own denomenation. Good luck with that. There's a bit of a problem though. That problem being that Science has proved that several verses of the Bible are completely wrong. According to the bible, the earth is flat, the earth and sky rest on pillars, the sun revolves around the earth, the sky is a solid dome and has windows and doors, Hail/Rain/Snow/Wind are kept in storage chambers in the sky, Heaven is in outerspace, the dead live underground, bats are birds,
(continued) whales are fish, some birds are 4 legged, some insects are 4 legged, the moon shines with it's own light, bottomless pits exist, the earth and moon can be stopped int the sky, the earth is unmovable, unicorns exist, withces exist, zombies exist, dragons exist, the cockatrice exists, satyrs exist, giants exist, ghosts exist, people can build a tower into Heaven, plants were created before the sun was, man created from dirt and woman from a rib, etc...
Christians have bee opposed to Science from the very beginning, that's why they burned down the library of Alexandria (After killing Hypatia of Alexandria).
Hypatia of Alexandria was a critic of Christianity and ALL DOGMATIC RELIGIONS which she flat out stated were FALSE.
Hypatia was set upon by a Christian mob, stripped, tortured by having her felesh cut off, murdered and then set on fire.
The same argument, that some religious people are using against those who enjoy scientific discovery, are being used by people who say "Christians have been opposed to Science from the very beginning". There are renowned evolutionary biologists who are conformation with their Catholic faith.
It is important that people provide some form of logical reasoning before making generic blanket statements.
I dont think I have made such statement. However, the beleif that science and religion have always been opposed to each other is indeed wrong. The opposition between science and religion began when scientific observations and other evidence suggested a reality different from that described in the bible.
The quoted comment may have come from some research that was do to create the original post. When people talk about science and religion opposing each other they are generally refer religion with an Omnipotent (or like) God. Yes, It can be agreed that their have been times where 'religious leaders' have reacted negatively to scientific discovery, but one thing has the remember is there are some scientific discoveries have been made by religious people.
Of course there has been scientific discoveries made by religious people. Science cannot disprove God. However, it has disproven a literal interpretation in key biblical passages, like the creation account in Genesis. We know through Science that a literal interpretation of Genesis is completely wrong. Therefore the creation account must be viewed as poetic fantasy. But if its just poetic fantasy, then that would cause other problems. There's still a lot of kinks that need working out.
Did you know that the first Atheists were not former Christians, they were former pagans. The ancient Greek philosophers who decided to view the world rationally, and by using logic and reason. They realized that they cannot just depend on supernatural explanations and the the Gods who ruled over various spheres of nature and human existance weren't needed.
Hypatia of Alexandria was the last great philosopher. She was brutally tortured & Killed by Christians, -in a Church no less!
Exactly. These people are the biggest hypocrites. It's no different than Ben Stein claiming that open inquiry is the best thing, but that open inquiry better not favor any belief other than his own. They all love science, but when science rips their old superstitious myths to shreds, they find a way to cop out of science.
Your pathetic cut & paste video is such a contribution to the world. Thanks for the low budget display of your judgmental nature. At least The Hovinds are spending time researching and trying to make a difference unlike you who logs into Youtube each night to check your comments on the 5 minute joke you made on i'm sure purchased software knowing that you lie to people and probably cheat on your taxes as well. Hypocrisy and denial fit together unnoticed quite frequently.
We need more people who know their shit to cut the hovinds down to the scum that they are, lying about evolution and slandering the truth is all that they are about!
Maybe the Hovinds should spent more time researching how to pay taxes better. You do realize they are convicted Felons right? Even Jesus looks down on that.
As shabby as Kent Hovind's academic credentials are (no degree from an accredited university), Eric's are worse. His formal education amounts to basically two semesters of bible camp at a non-accredited university.
Mattyouarebeingglib"As shabby as Kent Hovind's academic credentials are (no degree from an accredited university), Eric's are worse. His formal education amounts to basically two semesters of bible camp at a non-accredited university. "
Hey - that will get you get you a PhD in creation science (as long as you send in $50 plus a coupon from a cornflakes box)
Yeah, just make the check payable to "Kent Hovind Defense Fund". On second thought, they might prefer case or a money order. Harder for the IRS to impound.
Maybe Eric thinks only god has right to collect taxes? After the Dover trial 2005 I am suprised these religious freaks continue!
They lost big time! had to pay all legal costs etc, they had witnesses not turning up, they were advised by their own lawyer they would lose yet they still went to court haha. ID(creationism) proven to be false in court, love it! costs amounted approx 2 million but the lawyers said as the school board as low on funds it could pay one million.
Come on it boils down to one thing only,MONEY and mo money.Haven't seen any these fools in it for their love of god or mankind unless selling it for profit.Fear and ignorance make his moronic views the worst sin towards all of mankind.
Its part of the close relations we have with USA - Australia got the Hummer, a sycophantic leader (Howard) who shared Bush's lies & follies, plus Fox News & Adam Sandler movies. You got Ken Ham in exchange.
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People if you are grown up and understand a bit this video is made of an childish idiot, and dont let this into you, you evolution call us christians brainwashed look at yourself, you are so brainwashed, EVolution is bullshit its just a dumb teori!
yea were so brainwashed buying into theories with actual physical evidence and proof. You do realize that Evolution Theory is just about the diversity of animals right? Please just let the grown ups talk.
You do realize that Evolution Theory is just about the diversity of animals right?
Sadly, shuu7777, no they dont. They think evolution is a dark satanic conspiracy and that microbiology/paleontology/biology/immunology etc should take directions from people who believe in talking snakes
Don't forget that apparently evolution should also explain Gravity, Thermodynamics, and the origin of all non-organic materials in the universe (to creationists)!
Another addition again (this posting limit is annoying, I know.)
I just wanted to note that you didn't answer my questions, which as far as I remember are never touched on by Kent Hovind, either.
When you, and Hovind, set up the logical argument that the sun is burning up its fuel, and thus should be smaller, it has to be based on the premise that this process would indeed make the sun smaller. It doesn't. Read up about solar fusion for this.
Never touched by kent hovind?? Watch the tapes. and i did'nt say that i said this.right now the sun is burning away its mass at about the raite of one inch every years it's true check that.so if you Decide i'm talking about you if you decide as a person that the earth\world is millions of years old for every year there is an inch. the sun would be getting Bigger.If the world was millions..but are'nt they saying its billions now? btw Gravitational pull world have been diff too. watch the tapes.
I _have_ watched and listened to some of his seminars. Now it's your turn to watch Ken Miller. He has a lecture on YouTube. It's the first thing you get when you search for "Ken Miller", so try it.
Again, neither you nor Kent Hovind have a proper understanding of stellar fusion. I'm no expert and neither are you or Hovind, but I actually listen to the experts.
did you know they have never found a missing link.did you know that sin entered the world thru satan.and have you Ever Heard of the Ropen. Papua New Guinea its still alive in the beging you say dirt I say God. which is better to put trust in the one and Only Three in One God,or dirt
It's my christian duty do to this even if it make you think for a bit i hope.you have been brainwashed.now i do;nt care about anything you have to say because when i die what happends to me is gonna be much better than what happends to you? if you die with your believe your dead thats it.Nothing happends i hope this haunst you for years so you come to your senses.....nothing please trie not to think with a closed mind.
There is absolutely no proof that a deity exists, outside of any holy book. You need to use sources outside of the Bible to prove your claims. You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible.
Atheism isn't sad. Atheists realize that this is the only life they get so they live it to the fullest, and not by any sort of rulebook (like the Bible or the Qu'Ran). I'd rather live according to the dictates of my own conscience than by the stupid rules of the Bible.
"have you Ever Heard of the Ropen" You mean the animal for which no evidence whatsoever exists??? Creationist bullshit!!
"did you know that sin entered the world thru satan" Yes - that dumb bitch, Eve, listened to a talking snake and ate from a magic tree that eternally cursed our soul. More creationist bullshit.
"did you know they have never found a missing link" So tell us - in paleontology terms, what do you mean by "missing link".
I mean You have No evidence what so ever.you have never found a missing link and the ones you say are fraud.Humans were Gigantic back then 6000 yrs ago not millions. you guys say you have evidence and then you show us a picture of a skeleton with the jaw not even in place and say this is what we look like just give me i solid piece of evidence.look at the grand canyon water doe'nt go up you scoffers.
"look at the grand canyon water doe'nt go up you scoffers" Is that supposed to be coherent??
"I mean You have No evidence what so ever.you have never found a missing link and the ones you say are fraud" If you mean transition fossils there are millions of them for anyone willing to get off their fat lazy ass & visit a museum or library
"Humans were Gigantic back then 6000 yrs ago not millions. " Telling lies for Jesus?? This is fraud of course..show us your evidence , conman
do you have a merry go around? ok to the point. if you spin a merry goaround with stuff on it the stuff is not tied down ok it's just sitting there and you spin it clockwise so fast that the stuff falls off the stuff will spin clockwise.thats call the coservation of angular Momenteum. now if the big bang happend how come some planets are spinning backwards? how come 8 out 91 moons are spinning backwards? the sun is 98 percent hydrogen or heliem. and the planets are less than 1 percent.
Let me introduce you to another concept - Conservation of Intellectual Inertia.
That's where Hovind makes some simplistic argument like the one above, has it pointed out to him that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, has the reality explained to him very slowly, but still goes around repeating the same crap to people like you.
Then you just believe him thinking he's an authority on science, and regurgitate his bullshit back to people like me.
You're a 16-year-old who is just dumb to actually use "Dr" Hovind's arguments. Did you know that he got his bullshit evangelical degrees from unaccredited schools? Go research Kent Hovind on wikipedia and see how much of a joke he is. In fact, it seems you are trying to present his points in the exact same manner as he does, showing that you don't actually know about the subject you are talking about.
You hear evolutionist says we are descedant from apes and monkees. Sure, but that's not the point. All of life is related, not just human's with monkees. If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless. this is so moronic can't you see?
:You hear evolutionist says we are descedant from apes and monkees. Sure, but that's not the point. All of life is related, not just human's with monkees. If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless. this is so moronic can't you see?"
To say we are descended from monkeys - now THATS moronic. Why is it so so hard for creationists to understand basic science? Do you worship a god of stupidity & ignorance?
you say i worship a God of Stupidity. the Evolution Basis is that every insignificant Creature died because it was not the Strongest. Did you know that if a Horse sleept laying down it would die. God made it that way just to put a strain on evolution. The horse feet pump the blood to the body. So if evolution is true all the other horses died.how did they reproduce then.
We share the same common ancestor as apes, chimps, etc. As for the rest of your comment, I can see that you don't really understand what the theory of evolution consists of.
SwarfishSquints This is so silly its hard to know where to start...spin, such as in formation of solar system is local, independent of the whole cosmos - conservation of angular momentum does not require everything spins the same way. How come you just regurgitate the same tired old creationist drivel -conservation of ignorance perhaps?? By mass , the sun is about 79% hydrogen, 20% helium and smaller amounts of oxygen, carbon, iron- planets like earth do not have gravity to retain H or He
You call him Blind What does that make you ?why if you take a look at the rate of humans on the earth if we were really here for millions of years we would be over populated. but right now we are'nt you don't understand that Evulution just is make us lower we are'nt related to worms and evolution is just making way for the New world order. let's move to a forum.
"why if you take a look at the rate of humans on the earth if we were really here for millions of years we would be over populated"
Again - such a stupid argument. Why dont you assume that 2 rabbits left Noahs Ark 4500 years ago & had 6 babies after one year. Work out how many rabbits there are after 4500years - the universe would be full of rabbits.
If you can understand this you are beginning to understand how populations work
thats what i'm saying stop looking at it from your side of the book.if it was millions of yrs there would be alot more people but theres not and scientist can see a bottleneck in the Pop. they say at one time the earths pop was lowered to less than a thousand. well thier almost there.
We would not be overpopulated because we haven't always had as advanced medicine as we do now (people didn't live as long). Many births led to the infant or the mother dieing, but now any trailer trash whore can have as many babies as she wants. With our vast societies and more advanced modes of transportation, there is a lot more "relationships" going on. There are many reasons that explain that which you don't understand.
SwarfishSquints You are , literally, (even creationists) make of stardust....the remnants of stellar fusion producing high AW elements. Isnt that cool?? Isnt it sad that Hovind is so blind and bigoted and lazy that he choses to remain smugly ignorant of the beauty in the universe that science reveals
i see Non of you have an answer?let's move this to a forum please and then you can {teach} me how the Universe formed.all you have is an idea that was made to try to take god out of the picture.i'm a fundamentalist the king james will work for me. so do tell me how come the planets are spinning a diff way.and the sun is completly diff than any of the planets.you do some study for your own good don't you think i understand that i'm the only one here fighting for something is is possible.findForum
"let's move this to a forum please and then you can {teach} me how the Universe formed.all you have is an idea that was made to try to take god out of the picture."
The BigBang theory was developed by Georges Lemaitre - a devout Christian & one of the 20th centuries great physicists. It seems you are equally lost with science & theology.
There is no reason to expect all planets & moons to spin the same way - it is a ridiculous expectation.
did you know Adolf Hitler thought he was clensing the earth.Darwin was going to be a preacher but then he dcided to make evolution.
Georges Lemaitre. was a Roman Cath. i'm a fundamentalist we both use diff Bible.the caths have removed stuff from there Bibles so it fit more to there liking.maybe you should do some studying.
fundamentalist are not cath. i want to make that clear.and yes a miss guided murderer thought he was cleansing the world. he believed he was a superior race. it's true check btw What would he have done if he had murdered all the Jews? and yes it's true again the superior wins the is the evolution one of the Basic {law.} sp don't sit there and tell me i did'nt study. why don't you come up with an arguement of your own.the bible says in the last days there will be scoffers. Squints
"fundamentalist are not cath." Fundamentalists have more in common with the Taliban than with true Christians - the same rejection of science , the same absolute belief in an inerrant holy book, the same myths about the origin of the earth(6 day creation, global flood). Like the majority of Christians I find it incredible that adults will believe nonsense about talking snakes convincing some dumb bitch to eat from a magic tree which puts an eternal curse upon our souls
Additionally, you talk about an open mind. Yet, you seem to have made your decision already, and furthermore it seems you have based your decision on the "uncomfortable" prospect of being related to a monkey and coming from dirt.
(Mind you, God created you from dirt, remember? So don't go dissing that dirt.)
They try that lame shit all the time. On most occasions you wont even notice because I have already unmarked it all with the click of a button, (they have no idea how easy it is for me to correct).
I never censor comments on my videos no matter who they're from, or what they're opinion is. Free speech and all that good stuff that some people have obviously never heard of.
It's disturbingly ironic how the same Christian creationists who support Hovind and Ben Stein's movie... censor. I mean, they act like they're all up for truth and freedom of speech, but, you can't even tell them when their argument makes a false statement!
OK, "SwarfishSquints" LISTEN UP MAN! PLEASE DO NOT, I REPEAT : DO NOT WATCH ANOTHER KENT HOVIND VIDEO. THE MORE YOU QUOTE HIM THE MORE STUPID YOU LOOK. GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR SOMEHOW EDUCATE YOURSELF BECAUSE WE LAUGH AT EVERY WORD YOU TYPE.
What hovind does, is pseudoscience. His lack of understanding of scientific facts and methods combined with a literal understanding of the bible makes his presentations weak comedy shows.
Ok listen EVERYBODY. Check this all for yourself see how much of the sun is buring of in a year {if it was milloins of years old it would be too big and would have Burnt the earth. the moon would be closer and the waves would have Destroyed everything Check it your self you are just bashing the guys who brought you the info.
oK LISTEN if the moon is receeding Then it was closer? if it was closer What would have happend? The sun For how long has it been stable millions of years??
YES! now put everything down and listen. if the moon was closer[millions] of years ago It would have destroyed the earth. and the sun would have burnt it to a crisp because it would have the gravity off.
"if the moon was closer[millions] of years ago It would have destroyed the earth."
No it would have made the tides larger, but since there was only one superconinent and all life was at the bottom of the ocean up until around 500mya when the moon was at a safe distance it is irrelevant
Also gravity doesn't "turn off" you poor layment it is constant based on the mass of an object.
The mass of the sun at fusion ignition has a strong enough grav field to keep the star stable
I don't get you people have you even watched any of these kent hovind tapes. Watch some of his stuff a whole tape i'm sick of repeating myself in forums.but in forums people will go into a conversation with and open mind. last week my Debate agianst 3 people it ended with them aggreing to watch a whole tape thats two hours of you life to dcide it you are related to a monkey or If somehow The Millions And millions of dumb chances are wrong.you believe in dirt I believe in God
You know, some of us actually have watched some of those tapes, and also seen every single scrap of argumentation be utterly refuted and debunked. Have _you_ seen, say, some of Ken Miller's lectures?
He's a Christian himself, mind you. Try looking him up here on YouTube, he's cool.
But really, being related to monkeys or not is not the matter of "decision".
Just because the truth is not to your liking doesn't mean it's not the truth.
till I realised how many imbicils there are out there willing to accept thier dogma without objectively examining the real evidence- either because they're too thick, too lazy or just too brainwashed ....and those people scare the living shit out of me. They have votes , you know. And they vote for people like George. W. And they've got some weird ideas of they're own and weapon technology.......stop taking the piss and start worrying about these nutters
It can't be, because I know you've seen this one: watch?v=B4jMjfLjRU0 "... He's riding on a goat He's eating oats. When he's floating on a boat ..." Eat your heart out Shakespeare. Boo, boo ... boo, boo ... Your video is crap You suck at rap Upside o' da head you need a big slap. Next time you shoot a vid, don't take off the lens cap. Break it down ...
Louis Bounoure never served as Director or even a member of the CNRS.
The beginning of the quotation, "Evolution is a fairy tale for adults" is not from Bounoure but adapted from Jean Rostand, [who] also wrote "Transformism may be considered as accepted, and no scientist, no philosopher, no longer discusses the fact of evolution."
Hovind's quote is complete fiction and he is too incompetent and dishonest to correct it or even check up on it.
Even more pertinently, it doesn't even matter who said it - the only thing we really need concern ourselves with is that its plain wrong. Or at best grossly misrepresented. Its the old standby argument from authority - and I don't care how clever or respected a man is, he can still be wrong. Einstein was wrong (or right but by a total fluke) when he pulled the Cosmological Constant out of his ass.
I think Hovind is the funniest man alive - I say as much in my other video. He doesn't mean to be of course - but unintentional comedy is sometimes the funniest.
Just like Britney Spears' life is my favourite reality show. She wasn't all that remarkable when she was just another blonde bimbo - but since she started acting like a tabloid journalist's wet dream, she has truly become a great entertainer.
lol, I didn't realize that the mom was in jail too! I do get annoyed at the amount of YEC's who disable ratings and comments..it shows they have zero confidence in what they are spouting.
Update: I've been trying to chase up exact details of Jo Hovind's sentencing for a while, and she is not in fact in jail at this time. She was released a while back pending appeal.
She still has a one year sentence hanging over her head though, that she will no doubt be serving when their latest lame attempt to throw a spanner in the wheels of justice fails.
I sure hope there aren't too many people out there deluded enough to help finance this legal boondoggle, especially considering the Hovind's total disregard for how much money they waste in the process.
This music makes me feel like Im in an elevator
cchris000043 7 months ago
Actually, I have met and spoken with both Eric and Kent Hovind.
They seem like very genuine and honest people.
Both were highly intelligent and very respectful.
I trust them.
Laylow4now 8 months ago
@Laylow4now They just don't respect you enough to pay their taxes?
jib1000 5 months ago
@jib1000 ....That is such a crazy argument from you! Are you kidding me? Paying their taxes as a sign of respect to me? I don't even know where to start! Just Google "Operation Fast and Furious" where our own Justice Dept. used tax money to send untraceable guns to Mexican Narco-Terrorists! How's that for a good use of tax money? Donald Rumsfeld announced on 9-10-01 that the Pentagon could not account for 2 trillion dollars. Next day..whammo...the accounting section gets hit and blown up. Clever
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now What does any of that have to do with anything? I don't trust politicians either. They're lying scumbags. Just like kent hovind. Only difference is that politicians don't tell me magical boogiemen in the sky are telling them what to do.
Hovind is a piece of shit. He preys on weak minded (read religious) simpletons who can't think for themselves.
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 Hey,
I have met and spoken with Laylow4now. Who seemed like a very genuine and honest person. They were highly intelligent and very respectful. I trust them.
And Laylow has met and spoken with both Eric and Kent Hovind. And said they seem like very genuine and honest people, that both were highly intelligent and very respectful, and trusted them.
And Kent Hovind has met and spoken with the magical boogieman in the sky. And said He seemed like a very genuine and honest God ...
IRONMANAustralia 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...You are saying that Hovind has no respect for me, because he does not pay a corrupt tax to the IRS which is actually a criminal enterprise based out of Puerto Rico.
Reagan assigned a team to examine US income tax, and they came back in March of 81 and told him that all 900 Billion a year goes to pay our INTEREST on the debt America owes to the private Fed. Reserve bank. Reagan tried to change that, and he was shot just a short while later, by the son of Bush Sr.'s neighbor. Wake up
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now So you don't pay taxes? If so you're a piece of shit too. How is paying off our debt a corruption? Maybe borrowing it wasn't smart, or isn't popular but its certainly not illegal. I tend to think or people who pay their debts as honest people.
Telling people that creationism and religion are right and that science and critical thinking are wrong is immoral and reprehensible. If you want to be religious fine. But don't try to teach people that learning is wrong. Hovind is a scumbag.
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...I do pay my income tax, not because it's right or just, but because the IRS has massive SWAT teams and they would not think twice about bulldozing my little house and destroying my family to get their $.
Secondly, if you understood the history of the Federal Reserve and the fiat money system, you would realize that we never "borrowed" this debt. It came attached to the currency. You tell me to read a science book? Go read a HISTORY book! Our US currency is a slavery system.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now Wow you clearly don't know what a debt is. I'm well aware of the history of paper money, debt, and economics in this country. You clearly aren't. No swat teams aren't involved in recovering taxes.
All of these comments while stupid are also beside the point.
All Americans (whether they agree with the WHY of taxes or not) are MORALLY OBLIGATED to pay taxes. If you don't pay your taxes you're saying you're better than everyone who does. Kent Hovind is clearly NOT better than anyone.
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...Yes, SWAT teams are involved in recovering taxes...Who do you think came to Kent Hovind's house and took him away, along with his wife? The mail main?
As for our currency, every dollar that is loaned to the United States government by the private bank known as the Federal Reserve, has an interest rate attached to it. That means the U.S. has to pay back each dollar to them with interest.
That is a debt. Currently, it is in the multi-trillions.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...Yes, SWAT teams are involved in recovering taxes...Who do you think came to Kent Hovind's house and took him away, along with his wife? The mail man?
As for our currency, every dollar that is loaned to the United States government by the private bank known as the Federal Reserve, has an interest rate attached to it. That means the U.S. has to pay back each dollar to them with interest.
That is a debt. Currently, it is in the multi-trillions.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now Actually no... SWAT teams are NOT involved in recovering tax evaders. The people who arrested Hovind are called police officers. Why would you need a tactical police force to knock on someones door and put cuffs on them?
I understand what a DEBT is. Why are you trying to convince me about it? What does that have to do with Hovind paying taxes?
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 .....Because Hovind is in prison for not paying a "tax" that was corrupt from the very start. He accurately followed the statute that says churches are not under the authority of the state. 501c3 is VOLUNTARY. You are probably one of those people who fuss about prayer in schools because of the "separation of church and state" yet you think a church should have to pay tax to the federal government.
Aside from all that, the income tax itself is corrupt all the way around.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now Kent Hovind is not a church. His income from selling books and doing "lectures" is not church. He is supposed to pay taxes. Keep in mind he IS NOT a minister, doesn't have a church, and takes in tons of money every year. He is supposed to pay taxes on that. Claiming that the tax is corrupt, despite the fact that you can't explain why, is no excuse for not paying.
Of course churches should pay taxes. Explain how giving favors to religion is keeping it separate?
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 ....I already explained why the income tax is totally corrupt. If you still can't believe me, just watch Aaron Russo's film "America: From Freedom to Fascism" on the income tax. He specifically asks the previous head of the IRS, what law states that Americans have to pay income tax? The IRS chairman just laughs at him and tells him in yiddish, "There's no hope for you." Seriously, just watch the movie, and it explains it alot better than I could.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...Tax is a form of subordination. If someone orders you to pay a tax, then you are subordinate to them. As an example, I cannot go up to the White House and order the President to pay me a tax. He is not subordinate to me.
The IRS, however, can order me to pay a tax, because unfortunately the law says I am subordinate to them.
A church is not subordinate to the government, therefore they cannot rightly be ordered to pay a tax to the government.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now A church IS under the laws of the federal government, it uses their resources. Therefore it should pay taxes.
Your argument about "subordination" if one of the most ridiculous I've ever heard. The president DOES pay taxes. Either way Kent Hovind is not and was not a church or a clergyman therefore he should pay taxes.
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 ...It really seems that you are being purposefully ignorant here. I said that I cannot make the President or the IRS pay a tax to ME, because they are not subordinate to ME. But both of them have the power to make ME pay a tax to THEM. How do you not see the difference?
Who are you to say Kent Hovind's organization was not a church? He preached, he had followers, and he taught the Bible. How is that NOT a church? Or did you mean "government approved" church?
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now Its pretty clear that you're an idiot.
Hovind only taught that scientific facts were wrong, and that the bible is the only "science" anyone needs. That's not teaching, that's brainwashing. Evolution is a fact. We've known that for over 100 years. Hovind taught simpletons that evolution is wrong. That's willfully LYING to people to sell books and videos. Anyone who makes a profit by lying is an immoral piece of shit. Anyone who makes a profit without paying taxes is a criminal.
jib1000 3 months ago
@jib1000 ......Hovind told the truth. Genesis is accurate, and whatever "facts" we have "known...for over 100 years" will not change the fact that an Almighty Creator made this entire universe 6000 years ago. Hovind questioned Babylon and its rigid soulless dogma.
Keep paying your taxes to Babylon. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve needs it to buy his next yacht.
Time will tell the tale.
Laylow4now 2 months ago
@Laylow4now Ok so now we find out what really going on. You're a complete moron. Dozens of scientific disciplines show that the earth is more than 6000 years old, that we didn't live with dinosaurs, and that snakes don't talk. Nothing in genesis is scientifically accurate.
I will keep paying my taxes because i don't want a cell next to hovind and because i love my country enough to pay taxes.
Get an education, get a life, and get a clue you idiot.
jib1000 2 months ago
@jib1000 ....Ok, you don't want to go to prison, and you acknowledge that they will send you there, if you don't pay your taxes. That is called ruling by force.
Secondly, your income tax doesn't go to your "country". It goes to pay the interest on the debt that the U.S. government owes to the private Federal Reserve bank, which prints U.S. currency that comes with a debt attached.
Your attitude seems like you are just willfully ignorant so that you can keep waving the flag in peace.
Laylow4now 2 months ago
@Laylow4now Ruling by force???? WTF? Its called living in a country with laws. Also you don't go directly to jail if you don't pay your taxes. You can just pay them if you get caught and have the money. Clearly you don't understand how the government works. All income taxes do not go to the federal reserve. You should probably go do some research (that doesn't mean reading a bible) and find out exactly where taxes go.
The only one of us thats willfully ignorant is you. Creationism is ignorant.
jib1000 2 months ago
Now the person who made this video certainly has no "scientific" attitude
Eye2EyeIIIV 11 months ago
Good ol Eric Hovind, little fuckin nazi runnin around sayin crazy shit. "The question is if dinosaurs ever left! Noah could have fitted baby dinosaurs onto the ark." By merely making the statement and even entertaining it would be proof that things have evolved. But I believe in God because surely nature didnt come up with the idea of his birth
FreeMBS 1 year ago
I hope he DOES NOT get the money! Why? Simple the more exposure that IDIOT(like his father)gets in the media the more reinforcement he puts in the bogus brainwashing of people, young and older!
jesusdied1 1 year ago
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Different education:
CREATION (Genesis) => Meaning of Life, Standards, Marriage, Laws, Absolute Truth, Absolute Logic, Orphanages, Hospitals, Gospel, God's Word
EVOLUTION => Abortion, School Violence, Communism, Humanism, Nazism, Racism, Secular Lifestyle, Secular Media, Premarital Sex, Pornography, Homosexual Behavior, Lawlessness, Man's Opinion
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
EYE2EYE.... see if you want people on your side you can't spew shit like this cause not even a monkey (thats right... your ancestor) wud believe it.
You need to be more credible! Come on.. try again... you better than that!
zaking 2 years ago 2
Hahahaha, please tell me this is a joke comment.
SideSwipeGTA 2 years ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV Your brain, it is so small
321lawc 1 year ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV
CREATION (Genesis) => School Violence, Nazism, Racism, Lawlessness
EVOLUTION => Meaning of Life, Standards, Absolute Logic, Hospitals
fixed. ;)
NUTCASE71733 11 months ago
@NUTCASE71733 ..........Really? Nazis were evolutionists. Or did you miss the whole "perfecting the master race" thing while you slept through history class.
And racism? You're kidding right? Google Margaret Sanger for starters. She basically started Planned Parenthood and led the movement for national abortion. She was an atheist false jew, a staunch evolutionist and hard core racist.
Meaning of life? Creationists say you were made in the image of God. I would say that's meaningful.
Laylow4now 8 months ago
@Laylow4now
1: Hitler's nonsense was based on the bible. He says in Mein Kampf he did what he did because he beleived God wanted him to do so. The bible says committing genocide int he name of god is just fine, which shows how fucked up the idea is that Hitler was a advocate for Darwinian evolution (Which he hated, BTW)
2: The bible says to kill unbeleivers if they don't convert.
3: That's arrogance in the highest degree. Last I checked, christians are supposed to be humble.
NUTCASE71733 8 months ago
@Laylow4now The Nazis were not evolutionists, they were christians. Try reading a history book.
jib1000 5 months ago
I have noted Hovinds comparision before.
Creation=Salvation, and Evolution=pain and anarchy.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
man its just a video you don't believe it well leave it and move on to a more convining video like kent hovind.
narupiece 2 years ago
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WTF is this shit? What kind of fucking retarded moron posts vids like this shit on YouTube! He's probably beating off while he's posting this crap! Iron Man?What a fagg! I'll bet he wishes he could have Iron Man's pickle all up in his stinkhole!Or maybe he just has a gay crush on Morton Downey Jr.!
lute760 2 years ago
That is hilarious
sakkamarra 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Idiocy and dishonesty runs in the Hovind family - a very sickly little bloodline worth wiping out.
lonerook860 2 years ago 11
I will send you a power point presentation that recreates the Universe according to how the Bible reads it to be. You will see that the Universe that God created in the Bible is NOT the Universe we live in. (FYI: The 2 Heavens is 1.) The Atmosphere, 2. The solid dome sky, and 3.) Heaven of Heavens (We call it outerspace), the place where God lives. The Bible reads nothing about it being on a spiritual level and according to a literal interpretation, it is right above the solid sky dome.)
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
Aparantly you are creating your own denomenation. Good luck with that. There's a bit of a problem though. That problem being that Science has proved that several verses of the Bible are completely wrong. According to the bible, the earth is flat, the earth and sky rest on pillars, the sun revolves around the earth, the sky is a solid dome and has windows and doors, Hail/Rain/Snow/Wind are kept in storage chambers in the sky, Heaven is in outerspace, the dead live underground, bats are birds,
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued) whales are fish, some birds are 4 legged, some insects are 4 legged, the moon shines with it's own light, bottomless pits exist, the earth and moon can be stopped int the sky, the earth is unmovable, unicorns exist, withces exist, zombies exist, dragons exist, the cockatrice exists, satyrs exist, giants exist, ghosts exist, people can build a tower into Heaven, plants were created before the sun was, man created from dirt and woman from a rib, etc...
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
Christians have bee opposed to Science from the very beginning, that's why they burned down the library of Alexandria (After killing Hypatia of Alexandria).
Hypatia of Alexandria was a critic of Christianity and ALL DOGMATIC RELIGIONS which she flat out stated were FALSE.
Hypatia was set upon by a Christian mob, stripped, tortured by having her felesh cut off, murdered and then set on fire.
One of her killers was later made a saint.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
The same argument, that some religious people are using against those who enjoy scientific discovery, are being used by people who say "Christians have been opposed to Science from the very beginning". There are renowned evolutionary biologists who are conformation with their Catholic faith.
It is important that people provide some form of logical reasoning before making generic blanket statements.
omiteru 2 years ago
I dont think I have made such statement. However, the beleif that science and religion have always been opposed to each other is indeed wrong. The opposition between science and religion began when scientific observations and other evidence suggested a reality different from that described in the bible.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
The quoted comment may have come from some research that was do to create the original post. When people talk about science and religion opposing each other they are generally refer religion with an Omnipotent (or like) God. Yes, It can be agreed that their have been times where 'religious leaders' have reacted negatively to scientific discovery, but one thing has the remember is there are some scientific discoveries have been made by religious people.
omiteru 2 years ago
Of course there has been scientific discoveries made by religious people. Science cannot disprove God. However, it has disproven a literal interpretation in key biblical passages, like the creation account in Genesis. We know through Science that a literal interpretation of Genesis is completely wrong. Therefore the creation account must be viewed as poetic fantasy. But if its just poetic fantasy, then that would cause other problems. There's still a lot of kinks that need working out.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
Did you know that the first Atheists were not former Christians, they were former pagans. The ancient Greek philosophers who decided to view the world rationally, and by using logic and reason. They realized that they cannot just depend on supernatural explanations and the the Gods who ruled over various spheres of nature and human existance weren't needed.
Hypatia of Alexandria was the last great philosopher. She was brutally tortured & Killed by Christians, -in a Church no less!
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
Yeah I love how all these guys have comments disabled on this vids and cry "Oh Freedom of Speech!" whenever someone tries to discuss their bullshit.
petehjr1 3 years ago
Pete,
Exactly. These people are the biggest hypocrites. It's no different than Ben Stein claiming that open inquiry is the best thing, but that open inquiry better not favor any belief other than his own. They all love science, but when science rips their old superstitious myths to shreds, they find a way to cop out of science.
darmokandgalad 3 years ago 2
Returning evil, eh? Read your bible better.
UlyssesBreckenridge 3 years ago
"The Bible is useful for one purpose only, as a convenient package for perfectly thin ass wipe."
-Kent Hovind
ColoradoMikeyS 3 years ago
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Your pathetic cut & paste video is such a contribution to the world. Thanks for the low budget display of your judgmental nature. At least The Hovinds are spending time researching and trying to make a difference unlike you who logs into Youtube each night to check your comments on the 5 minute joke you made on i'm sure purchased software knowing that you lie to people and probably cheat on your taxes as well. Hypocrisy and denial fit together unnoticed quite frequently.
djtension747 3 years ago
Wait, wait, this is too good not to reply to.
The Hovinds are doing research?!
That's news to me. I thought the only research Kent Hovind ever did is of his own opinions.
And I love it how people like you can not only read minds, but can also do it over the internet - that's amazing.
And you must be able to in order to judge me a hypocrite.
I mean you'd look pretty stupid if it turned out I'd just got through declaring my software as a legitimate tax deduction now wouldn't it?
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago 2
Well done IRONMANAustralia!
We need more people who know their shit to cut the hovinds down to the scum that they are, lying about evolution and slandering the truth is all that they are about!
5 stars!
ccheng21 3 years ago
Maybe the Hovinds should spent more time researching how to pay taxes better. You do realize they are convicted Felons right? Even Jesus looks down on that.
UlyssesBreckenridge 3 years ago
As shabby as Kent Hovind's academic credentials are (no degree from an accredited university), Eric's are worse. His formal education amounts to basically two semesters of bible camp at a non-accredited university.
Mattyouarebeingglib 3 years ago
Mattyouarebeingglib"As shabby as Kent Hovind's academic credentials are (no degree from an accredited university), Eric's are worse. His formal education amounts to basically two semesters of bible camp at a non-accredited university. "
Hey - that will get you get you a PhD in creation science (as long as you send in $50 plus a coupon from a cornflakes box)
brospec 3 years ago
Yeah, just make the check payable to "Kent Hovind Defense Fund". On second thought, they might prefer case or a money order. Harder for the IRS to impound.
Mattyouarebeingglib 3 years ago
God is Santa Claus for adults.
ColoradoMikeyS 3 years ago 2
Maybe Eric thinks only god has right to collect taxes? After the Dover trial 2005 I am suprised these religious freaks continue!
They lost big time! had to pay all legal costs etc, they had witnesses not turning up, they were advised by their own lawyer they would lose yet they still went to court haha. ID(creationism) proven to be false in court, love it! costs amounted approx 2 million but the lawyers said as the school board as low on funds it could pay one million.
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
watch?v=l5Of8M1MZJQ Tom Cryer
watch?v=W5UcPeSb8kg Income taxes are illegal
watch?v=3ueEfRXZCVA America: From Freedom to Fascism
Camel76 3 years ago
Come on it boils down to one thing only,MONEY and mo money.Haven't seen any these fools in it for their love of god or mankind unless selling it for profit.Fear and ignorance make his moronic views the worst sin towards all of mankind.
dalejan1 3 years ago
Can somebody download the video and re-upload it?
TomSFox 3 years ago
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Theres alot of dumbasses down under
KevinTechnology 3 years ago
Yes, but fortunately there are a lot of sting rays too - and natural selection does the rest.
It's just a pity that Kevin Rudd doesn't scuba dive.
Have you ever considered taking a holiday to Australia? Come and see the Great Barrier Reef. You would enjoy it - trust me.
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
It's on my "bucket list" (things to do before i die).
BTW i didnt even realize you were Australian, I get the hovind guy and ken ham mixed up often.
KevinTechnology 3 years ago
I get the hovind guy and ken ham mixed up often.
Its part of the close relations we have with USA - Australia got the Hummer, a sycophantic leader (Howard) who shared Bush's lies & follies, plus Fox News & Adam Sandler movies. You got Ken Ham in exchange.
You lost.
brospec 3 years ago
"I get the hovind guy and ken ham mixed up often. "
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Ken Ham is the one who looks like an abused old circus chimp. (I LOVE the irony)
Hovind simply looks like a rhesus monkey caught in headlights.
chazcov08 3 years ago 5
Chaz,
I said that on another video. The most ironic thing of all: Kent Hovind looks like a MONKEY!!!!!
darmokandgalad 3 years ago
I wonder if Eric Hovind will buy a fake degree from a fake university like his conman of a father
brospec 3 years ago
Wouldn't surprise me. He actually belongs in prison just like his father.
He was part of the bullshit copyright notices to youtube that CSE still hasn't been called on.
bagpiper2005 3 years ago
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People if you are grown up and understand a bit this video is made of an childish idiot, and dont let this into you, you evolution call us christians brainwashed look at yourself, you are so brainwashed, EVolution is bullshit its just a dumb teori!
Skogen14 3 years ago
"EVolution is bullshit its just a dumb teori!"
For all those normal people - "teori" is from a new language used by creationists - this word means "I am too damn lazy to understand"
brospec 3 years ago
yea were so brainwashed buying into theories with actual physical evidence and proof. You do realize that Evolution Theory is just about the diversity of animals right? Please just let the grown ups talk.
shuu7777 3 years ago
You do realize that Evolution Theory is just about the diversity of animals right?
Sadly, shuu7777, no they dont. They think evolution is a dark satanic conspiracy and that microbiology/paleontology/biology/immunology etc should take directions from people who believe in talking snakes
brospec 3 years ago
Don't forget that apparently evolution should also explain Gravity, Thermodynamics, and the origin of all non-organic materials in the universe (to creationists)!
coulray123 3 years ago
Oh my, looks like we have a new clown in town ready for the bashing.
rouey 3 years ago
To SwarfishSquints:
Another addition again (this posting limit is annoying, I know.)
I just wanted to note that you didn't answer my questions, which as far as I remember are never touched on by Kent Hovind, either.
When you, and Hovind, set up the logical argument that the sun is burning up its fuel, and thus should be smaller, it has to be based on the premise that this process would indeed make the sun smaller. It doesn't. Read up about solar fusion for this.
Gnug215 3 years ago
Never touched by kent hovind?? Watch the tapes. and i did'nt say that i said this.right now the sun is burning away its mass at about the raite of one inch every years it's true check that.so if you Decide i'm talking about you if you decide as a person that the earth\world is millions of years old for every year there is an inch. the sun would be getting Bigger.If the world was millions..but are'nt they saying its billions now? btw Gravitational pull world have been diff too. watch the tapes.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
I _have_ watched and listened to some of his seminars. Now it's your turn to watch Ken Miller. He has a lecture on YouTube. It's the first thing you get when you search for "Ken Miller", so try it.
Again, neither you nor Kent Hovind have a proper understanding of stellar fusion. I'm no expert and neither are you or Hovind, but I actually listen to the experts.
Watch Ken Miller.
Gnug215 3 years ago
did you know they have never found a missing link.did you know that sin entered the world thru satan.and have you Ever Heard of the Ropen. Papua New Guinea its still alive in the beging you say dirt I say God. which is better to put trust in the one and Only Three in One God,or dirt
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
I'd rather put my trust in dirt. At least dirt exists. ROFL.
bagpiper2005 3 years ago
It's my christian duty do to this even if it make you think for a bit i hope.you have been brainwashed.now i do;nt care about anything you have to say because when i die what happends to me is gonna be much better than what happends to you? if you die with your believe your dead thats it.Nothing happends i hope this haunst you for years so you come to your senses.....nothing please trie not to think with a closed mind.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
There is absolutely no proof that a deity exists, outside of any holy book. You need to use sources outside of the Bible to prove your claims. You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible.
Atheism isn't sad. Atheists realize that this is the only life they get so they live it to the fullest, and not by any sort of rulebook (like the Bible or the Qu'Ran). I'd rather live according to the dictates of my own conscience than by the stupid rules of the Bible.
bagpiper2005 3 years ago
"have you Ever Heard of the Ropen" You mean the animal for which no evidence whatsoever exists??? Creationist bullshit!!
"did you know that sin entered the world thru satan" Yes - that dumb bitch, Eve, listened to a talking snake and ate from a magic tree that eternally cursed our soul. More creationist bullshit.
"did you know they have never found a missing link" So tell us - in paleontology terms, what do you mean by "missing link".
brospec 3 years ago
I mean You have No evidence what so ever.you have never found a missing link and the ones you say are fraud.Humans were Gigantic back then 6000 yrs ago not millions. you guys say you have evidence and then you show us a picture of a skeleton with the jaw not even in place and say this is what we look like just give me i solid piece of evidence.look at the grand canyon water doe'nt go up you scoffers.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"look at the grand canyon water doe'nt go up you scoffers" Is that supposed to be coherent??
"I mean You have No evidence what so ever.you have never found a missing link and the ones you say are fraud" If you mean transition fossils there are millions of them for anyone willing to get off their fat lazy ass & visit a museum or library
"Humans were Gigantic back then 6000 yrs ago not millions. " Telling lies for Jesus?? This is fraud of course..show us your evidence , conman
brospec 3 years ago
do you have a merry go around? ok to the point. if you spin a merry goaround with stuff on it the stuff is not tied down ok it's just sitting there and you spin it clockwise so fast that the stuff falls off the stuff will spin clockwise.thats call the coservation of angular Momenteum. now if the big bang happend how come some planets are spinning backwards? how come 8 out 91 moons are spinning backwards? the sun is 98 percent hydrogen or heliem. and the planets are less than 1 percent.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
Let me introduce you to another concept - Conservation of Intellectual Inertia.
That's where Hovind makes some simplistic argument like the one above, has it pointed out to him that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, has the reality explained to him very slowly, but still goes around repeating the same crap to people like you.
Then you just believe him thinking he's an authority on science, and regurgitate his bullshit back to people like me.
And around and around we go.
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
You're a 16-year-old who is just dumb to actually use "Dr" Hovind's arguments. Did you know that he got his bullshit evangelical degrees from unaccredited schools? Go research Kent Hovind on wikipedia and see how much of a joke he is. In fact, it seems you are trying to present his points in the exact same manner as he does, showing that you don't actually know about the subject you are talking about.
RussianAssassin21 3 years ago
You hear evolutionist says we are descedant from apes and monkees. Sure, but that's not the point. All of life is related, not just human's with monkees. If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless. this is so moronic can't you see?
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
:You hear evolutionist says we are descedant from apes and monkees. Sure, but that's not the point. All of life is related, not just human's with monkees. If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless. this is so moronic can't you see?"
To say we are descended from monkeys - now THATS moronic. Why is it so so hard for creationists to understand basic science? Do you worship a god of stupidity & ignorance?
brospec 3 years ago
you say i worship a God of Stupidity. the Evolution Basis is that every insignificant Creature died because it was not the Strongest. Did you know that if a Horse sleept laying down it would die. God made it that way just to put a strain on evolution. The horse feet pump the blood to the body. So if evolution is true all the other horses died.how did they reproduce then.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"the Evolution Basis is that every insignificant Creature died because it was not the Strongest."
Total drivel - your ignorance of evolutionary biology is appalling
brospec 3 years ago
We share the same common ancestor as apes, chimps, etc. As for the rest of your comment, I can see that you don't really understand what the theory of evolution consists of.
RussianAssassin21 3 years ago
SwarfishSquints This is so silly its hard to know where to start...spin, such as in formation of solar system is local, independent of the whole cosmos - conservation of angular momentum does not require everything spins the same way. How come you just regurgitate the same tired old creationist drivel -conservation of ignorance perhaps?? By mass , the sun is about 79% hydrogen, 20% helium and smaller amounts of oxygen, carbon, iron- planets like earth do not have gravity to retain H or He
brospec 3 years ago
You call him Blind What does that make you ?why if you take a look at the rate of humans on the earth if we were really here for millions of years we would be over populated. but right now we are'nt you don't understand that Evulution just is make us lower we are'nt related to worms and evolution is just making way for the New world order. let's move to a forum.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"why if you take a look at the rate of humans on the earth if we were really here for millions of years we would be over populated"
Again - such a stupid argument. Why dont you assume that 2 rabbits left Noahs Ark 4500 years ago & had 6 babies after one year. Work out how many rabbits there are after 4500years - the universe would be full of rabbits.
If you can understand this you are beginning to understand how populations work
brospec 3 years ago
thats what i'm saying stop looking at it from your side of the book.if it was millions of yrs there would be alot more people but theres not and scientist can see a bottleneck in the Pop. they say at one time the earths pop was lowered to less than a thousand. well thier almost there.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
We would not be overpopulated because we haven't always had as advanced medicine as we do now (people didn't live as long). Many births led to the infant or the mother dieing, but now any trailer trash whore can have as many babies as she wants. With our vast societies and more advanced modes of transportation, there is a lot more "relationships" going on. There are many reasons that explain that which you don't understand.
RussianAssassin21 3 years ago
SwarfishSquints You are , literally, (even creationists) make of stardust....the remnants of stellar fusion producing high AW elements. Isnt that cool?? Isnt it sad that Hovind is so blind and bigoted and lazy that he choses to remain smugly ignorant of the beauty in the universe that science reveals
brospec 3 years ago
i see Non of you have an answer?let's move this to a forum please and then you can {teach} me how the Universe formed.all you have is an idea that was made to try to take god out of the picture.i'm a fundamentalist the king james will work for me. so do tell me how come the planets are spinning a diff way.and the sun is completly diff than any of the planets.you do some study for your own good don't you think i understand that i'm the only one here fighting for something is is possible.findForum
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"let's move this to a forum please and then you can {teach} me how the Universe formed.all you have is an idea that was made to try to take god out of the picture."
The BigBang theory was developed by Georges Lemaitre - a devout Christian & one of the 20th centuries great physicists. It seems you are equally lost with science & theology.
There is no reason to expect all planets & moons to spin the same way - it is a ridiculous expectation.
Why are you too lazy to do any basic research???
brospec 3 years ago
did you know Adolf Hitler thought he was clensing the earth.Darwin was going to be a preacher but then he dcided to make evolution.
Georges Lemaitre. was a Roman Cath. i'm a fundamentalist we both use diff Bible.the caths have removed stuff from there Bibles so it fit more to there liking.maybe you should do some studying.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"did you know Adolf Hitler thought he was clensing the earth." WOW - you are ignorant of history also
"Georges Lemaitre. was a Roman Cath" Yes....he was a Christian ...but not recognised as such by ignorant bigots
brospec 3 years ago
"I'm a fundamentalist"
Yes ...we know . It explains your strong desire to remain smugly ignorant
brospec 3 years ago
fundamentalist are not cath. i want to make that clear.and yes a miss guided murderer thought he was cleansing the world. he believed he was a superior race. it's true check btw What would he have done if he had murdered all the Jews? and yes it's true again the superior wins the is the evolution one of the Basic {law.} sp don't sit there and tell me i did'nt study. why don't you come up with an arguement of your own.the bible says in the last days there will be scoffers. Squints
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"fundamentalist are not cath." Fundamentalists have more in common with the Taliban than with true Christians - the same rejection of science , the same absolute belief in an inerrant holy book, the same myths about the origin of the earth(6 day creation, global flood). Like the majority of Christians I find it incredible that adults will believe nonsense about talking snakes convincing some dumb bitch to eat from a magic tree which puts an eternal curse upon our souls
brospec 3 years ago
You're pretty dumb, the universe didn't begin with planets already formed. Gravity is also a factor.
RussianAssassin21 3 years ago
To SwarfishSquints:
Additionally, you talk about an open mind. Yet, you seem to have made your decision already, and furthermore it seems you have based your decision on the "uncomfortable" prospect of being related to a monkey and coming from dirt.
(Mind you, God created you from dirt, remember? So don't go dissing that dirt.)
Gnug215 3 years ago
Oh, you can see the creationist honesty here, wanna know how?
There was clearly a flagging campaign, in which CSE ministries decided to mark every comment here as spam!
sonic8005 3 years ago
They try that lame shit all the time. On most occasions you wont even notice because I have already unmarked it all with the click of a button, (they have no idea how easy it is for me to correct).
I never censor comments on my videos no matter who they're from, or what they're opinion is. Free speech and all that good stuff that some people have obviously never heard of.
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
It's disturbingly ironic how the same Christian creationists who support Hovind and Ben Stein's movie... censor. I mean, they act like they're all up for truth and freedom of speech, but, you can't even tell them when their argument makes a false statement!
sonic8005 3 years ago
OK, "SwarfishSquints" LISTEN UP MAN! PLEASE DO NOT, I REPEAT : DO NOT WATCH ANOTHER KENT HOVIND VIDEO. THE MORE YOU QUOTE HIM THE MORE STUPID YOU LOOK. GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR SOMEHOW EDUCATE YOURSELF BECAUSE WE LAUGH AT EVERY WORD YOU TYPE.
What hovind does, is pseudoscience. His lack of understanding of scientific facts and methods combined with a literal understanding of the bible makes his presentations weak comedy shows.
WhereTheyAre 3 years ago
Ok listen EVERYBODY. Check this all for yourself see how much of the sun is buring of in a year {if it was milloins of years old it would be too big and would have Burnt the earth. the moon would be closer and the waves would have Destroyed everything Check it your self you are just bashing the guys who brought you the info.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"if it was milloins of years old it would be too big and would have Burnt the earth."
Force of gravity keeps it's size constant as long as the fusion is stable
"the moon would be closer"
the moon is receding for a start and is receding at a supportive rate
The 'info' you bring is simply wrong
ProcInc 3 years ago 2
oK LISTEN if the moon is receeding Then it was closer? if it was closer What would have happend? The sun For how long has it been stable millions of years??
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"oK LISTEN if the moon is receeding Then it was closer? "
That's right, 4.6 billion years ago is was only 135 000 miles away (at current recession rate)
ProcInc 3 years ago
YES! now put everything down and listen. if the moon was closer[millions] of years ago It would have destroyed the earth. and the sun would have burnt it to a crisp because it would have the gravity off.
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
"if the moon was closer[millions] of years ago It would have destroyed the earth."
No it would have made the tides larger, but since there was only one superconinent and all life was at the bottom of the ocean up until around 500mya when the moon was at a safe distance it is irrelevant
Also gravity doesn't "turn off" you poor layment it is constant based on the mass of an object.
The mass of the sun at fusion ignition has a strong enough grav field to keep the star stable
ProcInc 3 years ago
Burning off? (Or "of", as you write.)
Are you comparing the sun to, say, a wax candle that slowly and steadily melts away?
How, then, explain for instance how a star swells up to a big red giant once it starts running out of fuel?
Gnug215 3 years ago
I don't get you people have you even watched any of these kent hovind tapes. Watch some of his stuff a whole tape i'm sick of repeating myself in forums.but in forums people will go into a conversation with and open mind. last week my Debate agianst 3 people it ended with them aggreing to watch a whole tape thats two hours of you life to dcide it you are related to a monkey or If somehow The Millions And millions of dumb chances are wrong.you believe in dirt I believe in God
SwarfishSquints 3 years ago
You know, some of us actually have watched some of those tapes, and also seen every single scrap of argumentation be utterly refuted and debunked. Have _you_ seen, say, some of Ken Miller's lectures?
He's a Christian himself, mind you. Try looking him up here on YouTube, he's cool.
But really, being related to monkeys or not is not the matter of "decision".
Just because the truth is not to your liking doesn't mean it's not the truth.
Gnug215 3 years ago
The problem is you people are not in need of a debate. You are in serious need of an education before you may be eligible for a debate.
rouey 3 years ago
Hahaha! "Read a book! Another book!"
TomSFox 3 years ago
this is the worst video I have ever seen
slinger777 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Then obviously you've never seen this foetorous pile of rhinoceros shit:
watch?v=nzD_pJdLIrY
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
I used to laugh at these people too,
till I realised how many imbicils there are out there willing to accept thier dogma without objectively examining the real evidence- either because they're too thick, too lazy or just too brainwashed ....and those people scare the living shit out of me. They have votes , you know. And they vote for people like George. W. And they've got some weird ideas of they're own and weapon technology.......stop taking the piss and start worrying about these nutters
Tobytrim 3 years ago
It's on tomorrow's daily goal list. Item 34, right after "learn Portuguese".
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
May God bless the Hovind family with wisdom and peace.
TheBodyguard7777 3 years ago
Well He hasn't done so thus far - especially the former, so I don't know why you think He would do so now.
IRONMANAustralia 3 years ago
Hah, in Eric's promo video he includes an image of KKK and a burning cross among the results of evolution. Priceless!
Gilmaris 3 years ago 2
I want to see Hovind's dumb video.
ThinkerHA 4 years ago
this is the worst video i've ever seen
theclockstickin 4 years ago
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
Louis Bounoure never served as Director or even a member of the CNRS.
The beginning of the quotation, "Evolution is a fairy tale for adults" is not from Bounoure but adapted from Jean Rostand, [who] also wrote "Transformism may be considered as accepted, and no scientist, no philosopher, no longer discusses the fact of evolution."
Hovind's quote is complete fiction and he is too incompetent and dishonest to correct it or even check up on it.
(See 'Buddika's 300 Creationist Lies').
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
Even more pertinently, it doesn't even matter who said it - the only thing we really need concern ourselves with is that its plain wrong. Or at best grossly misrepresented. Its the old standby argument from authority - and I don't care how clever or respected a man is, he can still be wrong. Einstein was wrong (or right but by a total fluke) when he pulled the Cosmological Constant out of his ass.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
You are a very wicked man....spoiling the True Believers (TM) arguments with your cynical use of facts. (LOL)
brospec 4 years ago
OMG you can see my comment at the beginning of the vid! :)
BalmungSama0 4 years ago
Which I was quite happy to preserve for posterity by the way - along with all the others.
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
LMAO great video
Dalbert342 4 years ago
Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed.
redhotrebel 4 years ago
Sorry Iron Man I couldn't resist marking your spam comment as spam... sorry- I'll go sit in a corner now...
redhotrebel 4 years ago
What is fascination with Hovind? Do you have a man-crush on him or something?
machinator1971 4 years ago
I think Hovind is the funniest man alive - I say as much in my other video. He doesn't mean to be of course - but unintentional comedy is sometimes the funniest.
Just like Britney Spears' life is my favourite reality show. She wasn't all that remarkable when she was just another blonde bimbo - but since she started acting like a tabloid journalist's wet dream, she has truly become a great entertainer.
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
The "Hovind's" are the BEST ...
Profsam85 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What a fucking douche...like his dad
jcatlett1976 4 years ago
Nice vid man. Keep it up.
BeforeTheNoose 4 years ago
Son of a Hovind
xander55577 4 years ago
lol, I didn't realize that the mom was in jail too! I do get annoyed at the amount of YEC's who disable ratings and comments..it shows they have zero confidence in what they are spouting.
kalsolarUK 4 years ago
Update: I've been trying to chase up exact details of Jo Hovind's sentencing for a while, and she is not in fact in jail at this time. She was released a while back pending appeal.
She still has a one year sentence hanging over her head though, that she will no doubt be serving when their latest lame attempt to throw a spanner in the wheels of justice fails.
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
I sure hope there aren't too many people out there deluded enough to help finance this legal boondoggle, especially considering the Hovind's total disregard for how much money they waste in the process.
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago
Hahahaha. 'Somebody' marked all the comments on this video as spam. I wonder who would do a thing like that.
I guess it was some moron who doesn't know that there is a button to unmark it all.
IRONMANAustralia 4 years ago