Shroud of Turin w/ Dr. JJ Hurtak pt 1

[MooPotPie]

She lost me at "consciousness".

[tejasxtian2006]

What about the carbon dating which suggest the shroud is not even 1000 years old but dates to the medievil era?

[tsantini13]

@tejasxtian2006 carbon dating has been refuted by chemist Ray Rogers, published for peer review in 2005.

[charles43110]

@tejasxtian2006 they were taken purposefully only from a very small patch in one corner that has been shown to be part of repair work done about 1000 years ago due to fire damage to the shroud. It is commonly known and is illustrated to be so in several photographs printed in critical books.

[trespire]

The poor man must have suffered so much while being crusified, who ever he was, my heart goes out to him.

[paulagloria]

@trespire I agree but consider how many human beings have crucified hundreds of thousands of other human beings...this one man showed a way out and left an intriguing record

[SirianKings]

More like "The Fraud of Turin."

[paulagloria]

@SirianKings interesting channel you have sirian

[mamaschristmasbunny]

I hope that you don't take any comments are taken as a personal attack: being I do follow your work and Alan's. I, as Christian, am no part of any church except the Body of Christ.

His birth. His life. His death. His resurrection. His ascension to heaven. His life to all who ask and call on him. Christianity in reality has the smallest amount of believers, in practice. A lot of 9/11 Truth- activists are Christians, like Alex Jones, David Ray Griffin etc.

Greatest among.

[mamaschristmasbunny]

Most things like No Plane Videos are things that I do agree with you on- where people like Alex Jones deny the no plane. Where as a Christian I am more like you in my media. I like all truth. And my main goal as a Christian should be, first and foremost to try and bring others to him. Ark of the Covenant like the Shroud, shows direct correlations to history. Like Noah's Ark. The list goes on. Miracles. Wisdom. What matters of critical thinking are lost in your belief?

Christ is God. Seek him.

[007jjb]

Paula YOU ROCK!!! Thanks for all your episodes and exploring and bringing forth life changing information. I have followed the Shroud since being a child some 40+ years now and NOW is the most exciting time to be a Shroud supporter. The overwhelming scientific evidence and cutting edge research all prove this to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ! our Glorious Hope. Thanks for all your work and effort in every area you explore, I love what your doing and have learned so much...GOD bless you JB

[paulagloria]

@007jjb did you see the latest show with Barrie Schwortz calling in? He was the photographer of the Shroud in 1978

[007jjb]

@paulagloria Yes I did that too was a great interview! I live near Barry and went to see him back in November I guess, a really nice guy. I thank you for all that you do not just this. I too am a big believer in Cannabis and its therapeutic uses and for healing. Its something GOD went out of HIS way to make and has been used cross culturally for thousands of years. Why is the world so dumb today??? Greed and corruption. GOD bless you my sister thank you....JB

[paulagloria]

@paulagloria I love Barrie's energy - I hope to go farther down the rabbit hole with him on the shroud....this is just the beginning

[lapassion24]

Type in

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Peace out. ^ ^

[lapassion24]

When u deny z truth ur carrying a baggage of sins and error just happens to come along with it. The thing is, u can't live 4eva so y carry it? God spirit is not always be with men, strong delusion will b sent to those who keeps denying it.

[1962SatanTookOver2]

Suffering is a result of attachments. This is straight from the teaching of Bhuddah. I was raised a Buddist and was a monk/novice. I am qualified to talk about this subject.

[JesusFull100sProphes]

@satan took2,

One of the Reasons I Believe Is Because Jesus Christ Fulfilled Over 300 Prophecies, concerning His First Appearance,

Written About Him over a Period of about 2000 years!

Investigate and Analyze Over 300 Prophecies Of The Old Testament Fulfilled By Yeshua Messiah!

George Heron, calculated that the odds of one man fulfilling only 40 of those Prophecies are 1 in 10 to the power of 157.That is a 1 followed by 157 zeros.

Google: Bible Probe Messianic Prophecies!

[lizazoon]

JesusFull100sProphes: A prophecy without exact data is no better than an horoscope. Bible prophecies give no sufficient data.

[Krazede]

Is this guy wearing a yamika? sorry for the spelling of yamika but I am referring to the small beanie worn by Jewish men.

[rabbitholecentral]

He is Jewish but it is a beret.

[thecrystalkid]

hello...

[thecrystalkid]

did jesus die on the cross? wasn't that and the ressurection a spiritual event involving the death of the "i" the awakening of the kundalina and the rebirth after 3 days of the vehicle for the sun being. i believe horus and krishna were also depicted on a cross. what do you think? best wishes j...

[Owleyes888]

darrylfisk is posessed

[paulagloria]

some serious unmet you have here mate

[yycmtroyal]

your words say much about yourself, mate

[AVIA54]

oh please..what a bunch of ballooney !

They BOTH need better education and should get up top speed what the research revealed..

Clearly a manipulative couple of pseudo scientists..

Too bad some ppl DO believe them ..SAD!

[paulagloria]

what specifically is your problem? Your labels give me nothing to respond to

[lunabirdie]

look at "turin shroud the fabric of time" for better scientific research on the subject..........yeah these guys are kinda dry in commenting....

[THEREIZNOGOD]

please email me regarding the shroud of turin(click on THEREIZNOGOD above and send me a message

[THEREIZNOGOD]

hello there

[sunilallen]

COMMENT FINAL

I applaud you on this extreemly beautiful documentary i hope you keep searching for answers and in your search may you find the peace within the truth.

GOD BLESS

Sunil Allen

Malaysia

[paulagloria]

@sunilallen: I am honored by your subscription...even devotion requires careful mental attention ..thank you for yours

[sunilallen]

COMMENT PART 5

i only wish that i was alive then so that i would have had the honor to meet this man or god to just say thank you for your scarifice, for in that act alone, i am humbled and in that act alone everyday when i see new on war and the use of religion to justify a war, i think that people need to stop and take heed of the impotant things and they need to go back and carefully study their own religion where its says in most religion that Peace is the way to the light.

[sunilallen]

COMMENT PART 4

i beleive that humanity just needs to believe that those who were before us have spoken of a divine one who died for our sins and in his death washed away the sins of the world,

[sunilallen]

COMMENT PART 3

I respect individual views and i would just like to say that your views are most welcome and it is understandable that you would need to question the value of Jesus knoweledge and where he got it as it is your right to do so,As for me,

[sunilallen]

COMMENT PART 2

Saying all this, i just fell that religion need to be taken at face value, if we believe then we do if we don't then we don't be we should not insult or question what has been prooven through one human or inhumans suffering to provide humanity as a hold with faith and hope that by doing good we will recieve a seat in his holly kingdom,

[sunilallen]

COMMENT PART 1

Hi

I have seen some of the post and as a roman catholic, i personally don't doubt my faith, i believe in Jesus and i believe that he died for our sins and came back. but most of all we should not question his wisdom or where he had learnt his wisdom, in india or even china as he was sent for only purpose so that you and i may live today and tomorow with hope that if we do right by the laws set by our father we will be welcome in his kingdom.

[dimphil]

The shroud is not an example of what we can attain. Rather it is an example of and proof of Jesus Christ's Divinity. Ghandi did not rise from the dead. Buddha did not rise from the dead. No one else has arisen from the dead on his own except Jesus Christ. His resurrection is His defeat of the ultimate enemy which is death brought about by sin. Christ could defeat death and sin because He had no sin nature as he was conceived from the Father, God not humanity.

[paulagloria]

Ghandi did not rise from the dead because he was a British agent...others most certainly have. In India there is a tradition written in their ancient books, Khandana Yoga where the yogi/saint can remove body parts and the put them back on. this is the beginning Hence my belief that Jesus studied in India. He lived as a man and went through the same trials...

[dimphil]

Jesus had no need to study in India. Jesus created everything. Why would he need to study in India. Don't buy it because it is B.S. The shroud is not a document of our possibilities it is a remnant of Christ's Divinity. The resurrection and ascension are two different events. He was witnessed by over 500 people before he ascended. He resurrected after 3 days. Russell Targ does not know how to get out of hell free because he is in denial of that ticket who is Jesus.

[paulagloria]

1) the shroud does not prove anything about Jesus because you don't know who it was 2) if a person, a god, an avatar or a messiah has to go through the trials of a regular human being then why not study and why not at the location where the greatest knowledge has been amassed (ie India). Russell Targ has nothing to do with this vid

[MAIKESIERRA]

La guerra entre quienes estudian estos textos y la Academia para la Ciencia Futura estallo ayer al reprender a uno de sus estudiantes , MAIKE SIERRA quien de años comparte las enseñanzas de varios de los textos estudiandolos en grupo ;

Un rival poderoso para el Sr Hurtak ,

Maike Sierra conocido en Chile y parte del mundo por sus experiencias de contacto y avistamiento ovnis consolidandose el 2006 como la persona que mas material propio tien en el mundo del fenomeno ovni

[MAIKESIERRA]

from chile

Hello friends of the Web, yesterday I was re-lit on the part of the Academy for the Future Science for knowledge announced to the rest of the world contained in the book the keys of enoc.

[MAIKESIERRA]

Hurtak from chile go home

[shiningcamel]

The interview with JJ Hurtak is very interesting. Thankyou for posting it. I apologise if you have felt offended by my posting a few comments, or by any of the content of my comments. Love and Peace.

[paulagloria]

do you know about nonviolent communication? It means ppl need infomation not praise or blame..otherwise they don't know what they did or did not do to help meet either their or your needs. You still have not given me ANYTHING to indicate any kind of connection to this vid, either positive or negative.

[shiningcamel]

Seekers of the Truth. I invite you to please take a look at my video favourites. Study all the video's under the name of Michelle Nye. Love and Peace.

[paulagloria]

how does it relate to what is in this vid? Are you just "advertising"

[shiningcamel]

No offence intended. Perhaps some people viewing this video are seeking the Truth. I am posting invites in various places. Hope you don't mind.

Love and Peace.

[paulagloria]

I'm NOT offended. I just want to know what you think about this vid and how it relates....this is a HUGE topic that I get both praise and the opposite for

[shiningcamel]

I believe The Truth of the Shroud of Turin is revealed in my video favourites. This completes the Facts of the Shroud in your video's on the Shroud. Love and Peace.

[paulagloria]

can you answer a simple question? did you see this vid I've posted here?

[shiningcamel]

I did view the entire video. I may have missed parts as I'm busy with other things simultaneously. Thankyou for posting it. Very interesting. Love and Peace.

[paulagloria]

you know that focus can accomplish a lot....if you don't give me anything to focus on I can't comment, if I can't comment what is the use of keeping this up? Either you say something that meets my need and the others who view here or I think I should remove what you say...don't you see this logic? Otherwise it is not really respectful to the power of community focus.

[shiningcamel]

Please excuse me, I never knew we were keeping anything up! I have invited anyone who is interested, to focus on the video's by Brian, posted under the name of his wife, Michelle Nye. I personally focus on the words of Jesus Christ. If you would like to remove my comments, that is entirely up to you.

[GRIDKEEPER]

Thanks for sharing this video, runinfox has a video linked to this subject also, a whole new angle, very interesting. He looks at the hands of Christ.

[periquiqui]

Just wondering... hmm...if it really was blood why have they not cloned him??? maybe that is his way of resurection.

[peepnklown]

3 -- So, how does your statement about general Popes dismiss the report to Pope Clement VII about the Shroud fraud?

[paulagloria]

Don't you know about the corruption of the Popes?  almost as much as bought scientific teams. Serioulsy have you looked into the global warming fraud? ONE BILLION dollars have gone into computer models that still don't show that CO2 leads temperature yet all the fan fare and terror and coming austerities if people don't wake up....all based on corruption and people terrified of losing tenure, getting grants, keeping their kids in school....

[peepnklown]

2 -- The Shroud has been proved to be composed of red ocher and vermilion tempera paint. The Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Paranormal Claims has a lot of solid evidence on this issue. And yes, the red 'blood' stains on the Shroud are RED (unlike blood which blackens with age).

Walter C. McCrone...an expert in microanalysis found this evidence.

[paulagloria]

how come when you look it looks so dark? Have you seen it?

[peepnklown]

1 -- Did Dr. Harry Gove write a peer reviewed journal on his doubts? If you can link me I will read it.

The 3 different labs, Radiocarbon Web-info and British prehistorian Desmond Clark support the C-14 dating method used on the Shroud...do you have any peer reviewed journals that can counter the findings?

[paulagloria]

oh I see you answer here: I will look into what the vid shows of Dr. Gove. He is now dead but JJ Hurtak may know how to follow it up. thanks for staying on this

[peepnklown]

Three independent teams of scientists have dated [Radiocarbon] the cloth to 1260 to 1390. The chance that all three independent dating' would have been inaccurate is highly unlikely.

The 'blood' has also been proven to be composed of red ocher and vermilion tempera paint.

Real blood goes black with age but, the Shroud's 'blood' is bright red.

A 14th century bishop's report to Pope Clement VII also supports a fraud.

[paulagloria]

1) how about Dr. Harry Gove the co-developer of the Accelerator of Mass Spectrometry (carbon dating) denying the accuracy because of the mold on the cloth and thus that mold and not the cloth being dated? 2) blood is not bright red and the image could not be painted 3) there were many corrupt Popes who bless according to the bidding of those pulling the strings

[shamstar]

How fitting to know the Romans are being punished in the exact manner they tortured poor Jesus, peace be upon him. Still no matter their punishment will only last all eternity.

[paulagloria]

I don't understand

[shamstar]

p1 Hi, what don't you understand? The Shroud is genuine. The vatican has conspired against scientist by giving them wrong samples to test.  God did not allow his prophet, yes prophet of God and not son of God to die at the cross. The whole fairy tale about Devinity, Trinity and Resurrection are lies told by the Church. Anyone who looks closely into the Christian Religion eventually uncovers the truth and feels cheated. God didn't cheat them, but man did :(

[paulagloria]

to tell you the truth the scientists cannot explain how this cloth was done (so no conspiracy here). However if the man in the cloth was Jesus cannot be determined so what you say, although interesting, has nothing to do with this cloth

[shamstar]

p2 Remember the Jews changed the Torah, so God sent Jesus and after Jesus was taken to Heaven, The Christian followers some 40-90 years came up with gospels taking some of what was said by Jesus pbuh (peace be upon him) and mixing it with thier own words and innovations. God then sent down a final messenger who explained what happened. The truth is out there for all to see :)

[paulagloria]

truth has many levels and seeking it is a lifetime process. I studied with a miracle master so believe based on what I saw that resurrection is very possible

[dimphil]

The resurrection of Jesus IS the cornerstone of our faith as the Apostle Paul said;"if there is no resurrection we are the most to be pitied." This is image is one that is an impression of a supernatural event the transformation of Jesus' dead body to one of a "resurrection body" that we will all one day posess if we believe. Christianity is a religion of faith not works for the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life.

[paulagloria]

we cannot tell if the one in the shroud was Jesus but it is an amazing document that does speak of huge wisdom that our science can barely comprehend (I've gotten response from scientists that at first appear able to show this is a fraud but in the end can't)

[Pleyade882000]

Wasn't St. Thomas the one who didn't believe the resurrection of Jesus? Oh thy small believers, open up your minds and see that reality is a creation of our own Mind. Love&Light, C*

[timfingmcgeehan]

what? these comments make me seem crazy, nothing makes sense to me.

[aes53]

This is utter crap.  The Shroud of Turin in a 13th century fake, there is both historical documentaton as well a chemical analysis supports this. The jackass clearly knows little about radiocarbon dating, the amount of organic matter on the surface of the shroud introduces an miniscule error that was taken into account by the experimenters.

[paulagloria]

that "jackass" invented carbon dating! Better watch as carefully as those who have favorited it (I watched this again and again and again even after editing it) thanks for stopping by though

[aes53]

Radiocarbon dating was invented by Willard Libby in 1949, for which he received the Noble Prize in 1960. Libby died in 1980 and appears nowhere in in video. You should have spent less time watching this thing over and over and more time reading a book.

[paulagloria]

I trusted the documentary and based on what you say I WILL go into it more. Which book would you recommend? I thank you for your clarity and look forward to learning more

[paulagloria]

Was Dr. Harry Gove the co-developer of Accelerator Mass Spectrometry or not? I will attach the vid that has him in it....JJ Hurtak and the Shroud Oct 27th '06....please stay posted! thanks

[paulagloria]

Was Dr. Harry Gove the co-developer of Accelerator of Mass Spectrometry or not? He is in the vid of Dr Hurtak Oct 27th '06 which I will attach....thanks for staying on this!

[metabyte64]

Dr.Hurtak's titles are regular Ph.D's are from the University of California and Minnesota. His main work are "The Keys of Enoch" - one of the most important spiritual books. Really nothing compares to it. He is very dedicated to combine science and spirituality and has founded the "Academy for Future Science" (a UNO NGO). About his webpage: Dr. Hurtak has his focus on other points and maintaining a perfect website in 5 languages will need either a great deal of time money.

[0u8shirt8]

Dr? I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark... Diploma mill?

[paulagloria]

nope...I'm afraid it is OXFORD university a full professor....

[0u8shirt8]

Hmmm... not according to the internet. According to the internet he went to CSUN. Why is it that these 'professors' are only interested in unusual theories? If only they had a less whimsical back catalogue of work they might be more credible.

Pyramids on mars indeed... about as convincing as that 'face'.

[paulagloria]

besides how seriously should I take a comment from someone whose site has no subscribers, no subscriptions, no vids him/herself and only one favorite "bagpuss busts a move"???

[jesusoverisrael]

i spent a few days giving out information about the many anamolies of 9-11, including the obvious zionist affinities of the neocons (i call them Judeo-cons). one of the Fox news camera men took me aside and told me i am wasting my time. i asked him why, and he said: "We all know that the official 9-11 story stinks. but the news execs back in new york wont let us pursue the real story" or something to that effect!

[paulagloria]

I don't remember talking about 9/11 in this interview, maybe I did. How did you come to watch it and how did you come by your name...did you see my "Love Jews- Hate Zionists"?

[StigmataBOB]

One of the things that I found very interesting is that My Stigmata scars match the locations in this video. On the wrists, not palms.

[paulagloria]

meet me in Union Square some Wednesday and show me! I'm there every Wednesday making available Webster Tarpley's book on 9/11 Truth. Anything speciafic to say on 9/11 Truth?

[StigmataBOB]

I have been delivering messages for several years for Mother Mary. She wanted me to ware the Clown suit that I ware. I do not like it, but I do what she tells me to do. The messages are not channeled, they are typical Medium comunication which is explained in the chapters. I am not near NYC. 1,000 miles away. She has said nothing so far about 911 spicificaly, but a lot about world events.

[paulagloria]

so where do you live?

[StigmataBOB]

She has Me living in Tennessee. She has me helping cancer suvivors, and elderly people. One is an 86 year old lady who lost 4 of her 6 chuldren. One of the last two is dieing of cancer. I go to see her and just sit down with her and LISEN to her. This Mother Mary has me do also. Once you have seen all 19 videos, you will understand 911 from a differant prospetive.