You have a very limited scope and grasp on religion. Don't post any more videos until you've done your research. You portray the media (and Bill O Reilly out of all people, lmao) to justify your point. There are many other points I can argue to belittle your ideas, but my time is valuable. :D
when people claim that their holy book contains science (which many relgious people do) why wasnt that science known at the time when it was written, if its there?
No, there are no things that we can't learn from science, but we can learn from religion!
There is something, though, that religion gives to people, and science does not, and that is, the confirmation of inequality and subserviance we see in our societies. We may be politically equal, but that doesn't mean that we are equal in quality of life and possibilities in real life.
great commentary man, good too see you're an american, im a european and we have quite a strong atheist community but it is small compared to the world once america opens to the idea of evolution and gets rid of creationism then i believe religion will be gone for the good
Richard Feynman ~"God was invented to explain mystery. God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand. Now, when you finally discover how something works, you get some laws which you're taking away from God; you don't need him anymore. But you need him for the other mysteries. So therefore you leave him to create the universe because we haven't figured that out yet"
This video has almost nothing to do with the comment I made. I was also going to chew you out for using bill o reily to back you up, but then I realized that you used richard dawkins to support your side. I can only think of a few people who are more arrogant, stupid and more intolerant than o reily and dawkins is one of them. Seriously he is such a pompous asshole and it's really quite funny because he is just an ecologist (pretty much the special ed of the sciences)
@MrLowercaseA Canadian. We speak english. When you speak english, you say aluminium, and her-b, because there's an H there. You spell colour and flavour with the U. And you win at hockey :P
@MrLowercaseA , here in Ireland we say 'aluminium'. And my New Oxford American Dictionary spells 'aluminim' as follows: a-lu-mi-num. Say it with me, MrLowercaseA: a-lu-mi-num. Don't let the lum-in propagandists sway you!
religion is not a philosphy, religion is a means of control. religion is used by some to control others.christianity has been used numerous times to control people.islam is still being used to control people. that's all religion is. a creation of men to control other men....
Religion has its place in society. Your mistake is that you ask religion to explain all. Religion is not based in science. It is a philosophy. Just as government is based in political philosophy. To deny religion is to say philosophers for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth.
"To deny religion is to say philosophers for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth."
Is analogous to saying:
"To deny that the earth is flat is to say scientists for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth."
@moyga Once we learned the earch was round did we disregard everything we knew about geography? Did we say that since we were wrong about the shape of the earch we must be wrong about everything?
Also religion =/= philosophy, it has some poor philosophy in it, but it is more than simply philosophy. For example it makes testable scientific and historical claims. Philosophy requires the use of reason and logic, Religion is dogmatic and appeals to faith. Being religious does not make you a philosopher and for the most part religion has no place in academic philosophy. If in one of my philosophy degrees I made an argument which appealed to faith, I would fail.
@moyga Religion is philosophy if facts & logic don't mean a fucking thing. O and also often includes an imaginary friend or two. Basically two people smoking weed on their back porch output more coherent ideas than most religion.
@RWJonesAIC moyga explained it well, but no, religion isn't a philosophy. A religion is a set of particular related statements regarding a proposed knowable truth about some sort of deity. These ethereal statements are often backed up by testable claims, which fail on all accounts.
Philosophy uses logic and reason, religion uses faith. It isn't a philosophy, it just tries to apply philosophies.
1a (1) : all learning exclusive of technical precepts and practical arts (2) : the sciences and liberal arts exclusive of medicine, law, and theology:
You are intermixing science, practical arts, with religion, philosophy, and theology. I didn't say religion = philosophy. I said it "was" a philosophy. Keep trying though.
@RWJonesAIC It doesn't stop us from being critical of two things.
1. When a persons religion damages them or somebody else, such as the apocalyptic christians or the gaybashing christians.
2. When religion makes claims in the realm of science, which it constantly does. For example christianity claims that the world is 6000 years old. Should that mean that we shouldn't criticize that statement because it's "just a belief" which gives it a higher status than facts backed up by evidence? Ofc not.
@damillionmalania We have the right to believe anything and voice those beliefs. We don't have the right to deny the same to others.
Christianity does not claim to know the age of the earth. Some groups interpret the Bible to say they know the age of the earth. This is the fundamental mistake of many. They intermix religion and science.
@RWJonesAIC No... religion does make claims about basic knowledge. Screw the term "scientific knowledge." Basic knowledge, which we achieved through science. The world isn't flat, the # of generations of humans doesn't equate to ~6000 year old earth. There weren't originally only 2 humans. There was never a global flood that killed everyone but Noah's family and two of every animal. There are no talking snakes. The idea of a world with no death is preposterous. The bible claims all these things.
What christian believes in a world without death? So many people die without truly living. I sincerely hope these people take the time to "distract themselves with non-answers". It will truly make them better people.
"If we admit that human life can be ruled by reason, then all possibility of life is destroyed."
@lluttrelltv Ken Ham, evangelical preacher. Also, everyone who bothers listening to the guy, and many more. They all say that there was no death in the Garden of Eden, and offer tours through the creation museum (and other christians offer tours through dino museums) telling kids that T.Rex's had such large teeth for shredding lettuce. No joke.
As for the quote, this was why I brought up the tides thing. Why give up in answering a question? You look hard enough, you might find the answer.
@RWJonesAIC What place does religion have? Sustainable respite for a massive number of emotionally immature people is about the only purpose I can see in it. Religion is not asked to explain all, it declares unequivocally that it provides ALL the answers! Any doubts, read the holy bible or the qu'ran. The "philosophers" you mention had quite some disagreement about which of the 3700 gods in recorded history we should believe in. Yes, the "real truth" is becoming a more recent 'discovery'.
Great video, simple and to the point, not to mention factual. Religions try too hard to compete with science, sometimes to validate their point one minute, and than dismissing it the next, sound familiar? If they were so informational about their texts speaking science, than the next question would be why did they not point this out thousands of years ago and brought us to our current state many years ago. Because they take the answers and bend their texts to fit the questions.
"Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion--several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven."
"He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition."
Meanwhile in the real world the whole salt water sea has no "barrier" its a mixup from many different water sources.
Great video! Godless and FREE!!
dkthg 1 month ago
Fantastically clear statement..!
Thanks, you made my day...
studioROT 1 month ago
You're a waste of space.
jumb0mumb0 1 month ago
@ThinkAbout1t
You have a very limited scope and grasp on religion. Don't post any more videos until you've done your research. You portray the media (and Bill O Reilly out of all people, lmao) to justify your point. There are many other points I can argue to belittle your ideas, but my time is valuable. :D
jumb0mumb0 1 month ago
@jumb0mumb0 , why is it important to you that you can belittle Thinkabout1t's idea? How would that add anything of value to our lives?
These are only two questions; surely you have time to answer those?
studioROT 1 month ago
@studioROT
You arrive at your own asinine conclusions, so no time to answer fools, sorry :(
jumb0mumb0 1 month ago
@jumb0mumb0 , get well soon!
studioROT 1 month ago
when people claim that their holy book contains science (which many relgious people do) why wasnt that science known at the time when it was written, if its there?
gulbirk 8 months ago
Nice end-phrase.
No, there are no things that we can't learn from science, but we can learn from religion!
There is something, though, that religion gives to people, and science does not, and that is, the confirmation of inequality and subserviance we see in our societies. We may be politically equal, but that doesn't mean that we are equal in quality of life and possibilities in real life.
dewinthemorning 8 months ago
great commentary man, good too see you're an american, im a european and we have quite a strong atheist community but it is small compared to the world once america opens to the idea of evolution and gets rid of creationism then i believe religion will be gone for the good
miketheblueeagle 8 months ago
what the fuck ?religion isnt science.and no1 tells you not to do scientific researches just because there are religions
kreyton76 10 months ago
All hail Lorthos and his tentacley (yeah that's now a word) wrath! Joking aside, great video :)
Abent5866 10 months ago
If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him. - Voltaire
ThePedub 11 months ago
Richard Feynman ~"God was invented to explain mystery. God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand. Now, when you finally discover how something works, you get some laws which you're taking away from God; you don't need him anymore. But you need him for the other mysteries. So therefore you leave him to create the universe because we haven't figured that out yet"
muzammilali007 11 months ago
Great video
wokkitout 11 months ago
This video has almost nothing to do with the comment I made. I was also going to chew you out for using bill o reily to back you up, but then I realized that you used richard dawkins to support your side. I can only think of a few people who are more arrogant, stupid and more intolerant than o reily and dawkins is one of them. Seriously he is such a pompous asshole and it's really quite funny because he is just an ecologist (pretty much the special ed of the sciences)
lluttrelltv 11 months ago
@lluttrelltv Hahaha... ah...
Sure.
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
0:50 -- Aluminum. Say it with me. A-lum-in-um. Don't let the -ium propagandists sway you! Four syllables is enough.
MrLowercaseA 11 months ago
@MrLowercaseA Canadian. We speak english. When you speak english, you say aluminium, and her-b, because there's an H there. You spell colour and flavour with the U. And you win at hockey :P
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
@MrLowercaseA , here in Ireland we say 'aluminium'. And my New Oxford American Dictionary spells 'aluminim' as follows: a-lu-mi-num. Say it with me, MrLowercaseA: a-lu-mi-num. Don't let the lum-in propagandists sway you!
studioROT 1 month ago
religion is not a philosphy, religion is a means of control. religion is used by some to control others.christianity has been used numerous times to control people.islam is still being used to control people. that's all religion is. a creation of men to control other men....
hellshade2 11 months ago
1:36 cool outfit
vegasOasis 11 months ago
@vegasOasis Islamic batman
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
1:40 "You're the one that want's to be a doctor"??? LOL!!!
vegasOasis 11 months ago
All you had in your video was technical knowledge. Not a scintilla of wisdom. I get wisdom from the Bible. I get knowledge from science.
ThoughtGazeCarlos 11 months ago
Religion has its place in society. Your mistake is that you ask religion to explain all. Religion is not based in science. It is a philosophy. Just as government is based in political philosophy. To deny religion is to say philosophers for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth.
RWJonesAIC 11 months ago
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@RWJonesAIC
"To deny religion is to say philosophers for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth."
Is analogous to saying:
"To deny that the earth is flat is to say scientists for thousands of years have been wrong and you in the past few decades have discovered the real truth."
Yeah, we have.
moyga 11 months ago 3
@moyga Once we learned the earch was round did we disregard everything we knew about geography? Did we say that since we were wrong about the shape of the earch we must be wrong about everything?
RWJonesAIC 11 months ago
@RWJonesAIC
Also religion =/= philosophy, it has some poor philosophy in it, but it is more than simply philosophy. For example it makes testable scientific and historical claims. Philosophy requires the use of reason and logic, Religion is dogmatic and appeals to faith. Being religious does not make you a philosopher and for the most part religion has no place in academic philosophy. If in one of my philosophy degrees I made an argument which appealed to faith, I would fail.
moyga 11 months ago 6
@moyga Religion is philosophy if facts & logic don't mean a fucking thing. O and also often includes an imaginary friend or two. Basically two people smoking weed on their back porch output more coherent ideas than most religion.
mistereveready 8 months ago
@RWJonesAIC moyga explained it well, but no, religion isn't a philosophy. A religion is a set of particular related statements regarding a proposed knowable truth about some sort of deity. These ethereal statements are often backed up by testable claims, which fail on all accounts.
Philosophy uses logic and reason, religion uses faith. It isn't a philosophy, it just tries to apply philosophies.
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
To keep us on track:
Definition of PHILOSOPHY
1a (1) : all learning exclusive of technical precepts and practical arts (2) : the sciences and liberal arts exclusive of medicine, law, and theology:
You are intermixing science, practical arts, with religion, philosophy, and theology. I didn't say religion = philosophy. I said it "was" a philosophy. Keep trying though.
RWJonesAIC 11 months ago
@ThinkAbout1t
Religion does not have to involve some sort of diety.
lluttrelltv 11 months ago
@lluttrelltv Most generally does.
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
@RWJonesAIC It doesn't stop us from being critical of two things.
1. When a persons religion damages them or somebody else, such as the apocalyptic christians or the gaybashing christians.
2. When religion makes claims in the realm of science, which it constantly does. For example christianity claims that the world is 6000 years old. Should that mean that we shouldn't criticize that statement because it's "just a belief" which gives it a higher status than facts backed up by evidence? Ofc not.
damillionmalania 11 months ago
@damillionmalania We have the right to believe anything and voice those beliefs. We don't have the right to deny the same to others.
Christianity does not claim to know the age of the earth. Some groups interpret the Bible to say they know the age of the earth. This is the fundamental mistake of many. They intermix religion and science.
RWJonesAIC 11 months ago
@RWJonesAIC No... religion does make claims about basic knowledge. Screw the term "scientific knowledge." Basic knowledge, which we achieved through science. The world isn't flat, the # of generations of humans doesn't equate to ~6000 year old earth. There weren't originally only 2 humans. There was never a global flood that killed everyone but Noah's family and two of every animal. There are no talking snakes. The idea of a world with no death is preposterous. The bible claims all these things.
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
@ThinkAbout1t
What christian believes in a world without death? So many people die without truly living. I sincerely hope these people take the time to "distract themselves with non-answers". It will truly make them better people.
"If we admit that human life can be ruled by reason, then all possibility of life is destroyed."
lluttrelltv 11 months ago
@lluttrelltv Ken Ham, evangelical preacher. Also, everyone who bothers listening to the guy, and many more. They all say that there was no death in the Garden of Eden, and offer tours through the creation museum (and other christians offer tours through dino museums) telling kids that T.Rex's had such large teeth for shredding lettuce. No joke.
As for the quote, this was why I brought up the tides thing. Why give up in answering a question? You look hard enough, you might find the answer.
ThinkAbout1t 11 months ago
@RWJonesAIC What place does religion have? Sustainable respite for a massive number of emotionally immature people is about the only purpose I can see in it. Religion is not asked to explain all, it declares unequivocally that it provides ALL the answers! Any doubts, read the holy bible or the qu'ran. The "philosophers" you mention had quite some disagreement about which of the 3700 gods in recorded history we should believe in. Yes, the "real truth" is becoming a more recent 'discovery'.
BlocktAtheistEutopia 11 months ago
SCIENCE RULES
RealityZealot 11 months ago
"We didn't learn from religion, religion learned from us, it just dropped out of class thousands of years ago"
Great quote my man.
fakeham 11 months ago 24
@fakeham Amen it is.
Gamersquid1 1 month ago
Great video, simple and to the point, not to mention factual. Religions try too hard to compete with science, sometimes to validate their point one minute, and than dismissing it the next, sound familiar? If they were so informational about their texts speaking science, than the next question would be why did they not point this out thousands of years ago and brought us to our current state many years ago. Because they take the answers and bend their texts to fit the questions.
EchosFromaBlankMind 11 months ago
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"Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion--several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven."
~ Mark Twain
SETIat1420MHz 11 months ago
favd
JustaEropeanGuy 11 months ago
So glad I subbed =) Thanks for the vid!
ForYeensSake 11 months ago
From the Quoran btw.
"He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition."
Meanwhile in the real world the whole salt water sea has no "barrier" its a mixup from many different water sources.
CognosSquare 11 months ago
Great video, thanks a lot.
May I ask where I may see the whole clip with Richard Dawkins(1:10)?
RottenRroses 11 months ago
@RottenRroses It's from a documentary of his called "Faith School Menace?". You can see it here on YouTube, starting at /watch?v=ulX8nZjeCXE.
handplanty 11 months ago
@handplanty Thanks a lot, I appreciate it.
RottenRroses 11 months ago
Great as always.
VBranberg 11 months ago