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Vienam no maviem komentiem bija daudz "thumbs down", bet es to varu vēl redzēt.
Arī: ja dažiem cilvēkiem nepatīk mans koments, tas nenozīmē, ka man nebija taisnība. Tev vajadzētu vispirms izlasīt komentu un tikai pēc tam tu vari spriest mani.
Tu vari vel izlasit, jo tu to rakstiji. Ari tavi komenti par Ukraini ir arkartigi stulbi. Es izlasiju tavu komentu agrak, kamer to vel vareju redzet, un nolemu, ka tas bija stulbs un nepieklajigs.
@hizman I know your comment is old, but if you still need answer, then no. Latvia is not a sucessor to anything. Livonia didn't belong to Latvians, it was a bunch of Baltic Germans enslaving the actual Latvian population.
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Just like the Russians didn't exist before 1300... And the Americans before 1600... So they have to co-opt the histories of previous peoples (from whom they are descended) to go about their favorite business of rewriting history to prove their existence. So the Russians steal Ukrainian Rus' from the Ukrainians, etc. etc. etc...
Humans are all like that. Latvians are just not an exception.
The "First Russia" or Kievan Rus' was a state/empire based on Kiev (today's Ukrainian capital). It was later destroyed with the arrival of the Tatars, against whom the Russians of Muscovy revolted and gained independency after a few centuries. Both the Russians and the Ukrainians claim the Rus' empire as their 'historical origin'. The Ukrainians are still living there; the Russians, however, are descended from other tribes, so it's hard to see how they can claim Rus' as "their history".
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For Kievan Rus', any standard work on Russian or Ukrainian history will do (up to the time of the Tatar invasion). You can also check the Wikipedia articles on the History of Russia and on the History of Ukraine. (To see the difference in approach between them, consult the respective articles in the Russian and Ukrainian wikipedias. Their literature list, together with the one in the corresponding English Wikipedia article, is a good place to start comparing opinions on the topic.)
@hizman There were skipped and altered many facts(in general the bad ones), anyway,that doesnt mean that this cartoon was garbage.Its common politics in nowadays(as it was in the past) to make cartoons like this one. Of course in those times name "latvian" didnt make much sense, but do you think that other countries doesnt make up their history?( and Latvia isnt the bigest rewriter of history- just look at russian history books). And at last- whats the point of proving latvian existence?
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I did not get you point about Latvian riflemens. Before WWII Latvia voted to join USSR, all though I agree it was under the pressure, but USSR did not annex. During WWII Latvians were not as yellow and fluffy as it shown in the movie they executed holocaust. My point is that Latvians did bad things to others, but this movie skips this.
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Latvians were not that passive in the course of history. Would you grow up and start taking some responsibilities? Should not Latvians take blame for supporting Lenin? He would be down if it were not "Red Shooters" from Latvia. How about Latvians in the Soviet Union secret service who were managing and executing terror on the USSR territory after the revolution? How about holocaust that Latvians executed and not just in Latvia, but in neighboring states too?
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That is exactly my point. We generalize and put the sign equals between these idiots and others. Russians are getting blamed for doings of idiots of many nations. USSR was a country of many nations. If anything went wrong everyone gets responsibility. In USSR Latvia was ruled mostly by Latvians. The Latvians communists are still doing very well. They converted to nationalists and have very aggressive rhetoric blaming Russians for the things they were doing to the country.
Don't forget that afterwards Stalin had them all executed, along with many other Latvian families in the western Russia. A silent genocide your history books don't teach you about. All you do is put all the blame on your neighbours, you Russians never see the fault in your doings. Oh, we've been more than passive in the history of European and worldwide bloodshed, if we're compared to Russia, UK, Spain and many more nations.
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Russians, unlike their neighbors did not deny theirs involvement in the processes of that time. USSR was not a country of one nation. All other nations were involved too. What surprises me is how many of the countries that were contributing into the evilness of the time are denying that and are trying to pretend being victims of the history. Latvians helped Lenin to get power. 20 years later Stalin did bad things to Latvia. By the way Stalin sent to Sibarea many nations and most of all Russians
Latvian red riflemen helped, but not Latvia as a country. Never as a country. Riflemen were just a small part of it. Neither communists, no Nazis ever supported our freedom and independence. So think before you talk bullshit about Latvia. We declared our neutrality prior to WWII, but no - communists had to invade and annex us. Nazis drafted Latvians for their dirty cause, so did the russians, although it was against the international agreements.
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I did not get you point about Latvian riflemens. Before WWII Latvia voted to join USSR, all though I agree it was under the pressure, but USSR did not annex. During WWII Latvians were not as yellow and fluffy as it shown in the movie they executed holocaust. My point is that Latvians did bad things to others, but this movie skips this.
Yes, there were Latvians who were shooting jews. So what? We are not proud of them. But those were the police battalions, not Latvian legion. Almost every country in Europe had people participating in holocaust. Even Stalin ordered shooting of jews.
When will you russians remember one thing - up to 90% of Latvian legion members were conscripted! Do you know what it means? They were forced into joining the SS, as were Latvian divisions in the red army - forced to fight. We didn't ask for war.
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This animation is just a drop in the flood of propaganda that is going on in Latvia. The message is that Latvians are good peaceful and superior and surrounded by aggressive barbarians. This is a dangerous misconception that leads to unneeded conflicts between people of many nations leaving in Latvia. Latvians contributed their load of badness in the course of history.
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Perhaps being citizen of Latvia and observing how nationalism is cultivated just does not put me in a humorous mood. I would most likely look at this differently if Latvians would not be so dead serious about the past.
You are funny. Of course there will be Latvian nationalism in Latvia. Just as there is Russian nationalism in Russia, and German nationalism in Germany, and Turkish nationalism in Turkey, and American nationalsim in the US, etc.
@vladp72 How else would you describe the Russian ultimative "mutual aid" agreement for Latvia? Either take Latvia by force, or make sign Latvian leadership a contract and just took it anyway. At the time when the Latvian Song Festival was celebrated outside the capital USSR army came across the border, killing innocent family of border guards.
But why in hell anything of this should be commented under puppuet cartoon - I have no idea. :)
That was surprisingly informative, including the ending which implies Latvian sovereignty from US foreign interventionism.
The fact that the caricatures of the invaders were not subtitled into Latvian language is also illustrative of the problems of imperialism and the retention of culture in the face of political change.
Speaking as Latvian-American (my family had to flee the Soviets) The ending is simple we've always been caught up in the middle East vs West. An like the poor Lativan in the vid we've always been trampled under while the two go at each other. We simply want to be left alone to be simply Latvian with our own culture our own ways. Thus the "Do Not Disturb" and Plis(Fort) closed to everyone but Latvians. In short isolationsism and freedom. God Bless Latvia!
BEAUTIFUL HISTORY OF LATVIA,PICTURESQUE.THE BEST REGARDS FROM POLAND.MARK
Sundragonnet 2 weeks ago
Puikus ,taiklus filmukas,dzivuok Latvia,dzivuokiet brali.....
rembo568 3 weeks ago in playlist Latvietis
if some wondering about 1:30
Janis Bargais roughly translates to Jon Stern.
early literature Latvianised the name as John Terrible
but the Soviet Latvian uses the Russian name Joan Rurikovičs
or you my know him as Ivan the Terrible
auntieSpam 5 months ago
Labaa filminja :D Veidotaajiem lielais pluss!
megatronlv 8 months ago
da izumitelno bravo Rejisor !!!!
zadumka klasss i realnost
Nonka06 1 year ago
Wheres the baltic road???
maxybbg 1 year ago
a great one
homeletfromage 2 years ago
prikolnij multik
deniss1976 2 years ago
Ignore Asehpe, he's an idiot. I love this cartoon. :) Musu Latvija, nabadzina, ko vina daris tagad?
ShadowKitten13 2 years ago 3
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So do I. Why ignore me? Es arī runāju latviski, tu vari rakstīt savā dzimtajā valodā ja gribi.
Asehpe 2 years ago
Viens no taviem agrākiem komentiem bija stulbs vai ievainojoš- tagad tam ir tik daudz "thumbs down", ka vairs nevar redzēt to komentu. Tamdēļ teicu, lai tev ignorē.
ShadowKitten13 2 years ago
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Vienam no maviem komentiem bija daudz "thumbs down", bet es to varu vēl redzēt.
Arī: ja dažiem cilvēkiem nepatīk mans koments, tas nenozīmē, ka man nebija taisnība. Tev vajadzētu vispirms izlasīt komentu un tikai pēc tam tu vari spriest mani.
Asehpe 2 years ago
Tu vari vel izlasit, jo tu to rakstiji. Ari tavi komenti par Ukraini ir arkartigi stulbi. Es izlasiju tavu komentu agrak, kamer to vel vareju redzet, un nolemu, ka tas bija stulbs un nepieklajigs.
ShadowKitten13 2 years ago
I don't understand who the 'disappearing men in black' are who show up after the second occupation by the USSR... Are they KGB agents?
Asehpe 3 years ago
MGB agents
Woodenlegjoe 3 years ago
so the present day Latvian Republic is a successor state to Livonia? :)
hizman 3 years ago 2
@hizman I know your comment is old, but if you still need answer, then no. Latvia is not a sucessor to anything. Livonia didn't belong to Latvians, it was a bunch of Baltic Germans enslaving the actual Latvian population.
Ricokz 10 months ago
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Honestly, garbage. Not mentioning the fact, that nothing related to the name of Latvia or Latvians existed back in 1201 and even much later too...
Latvian are about their favourite business of rewriting history to prove their existence.
hizman 3 years ago
well if Livonia counts
SovietGuy101 3 years ago
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Just like the Russians didn't exist before 1300... And the Americans before 1600... So they have to co-opt the histories of previous peoples (from whom they are descended) to go about their favorite business of rewriting history to prove their existence. So the Russians steal Ukrainian Rus' from the Ukrainians, etc. etc. etc...
Humans are all like that. Latvians are just not an exception.
Asehpe 3 years ago
"So the Russians steal Ukrainian Rus' from the Ukrainians"
Sorry?Can you give me more info about that?
Woodenlegjoe 3 years ago
The "First Russia" or Kievan Rus' was a state/empire based on Kiev (today's Ukrainian capital). It was later destroyed with the arrival of the Tatars, against whom the Russians of Muscovy revolted and gained independency after a few centuries. Both the Russians and the Ukrainians claim the Rus' empire as their 'historical origin'. The Ukrainians are still living there; the Russians, however, are descended from other tribes, so it's hard to see how they can claim Rus' as "their history".
Asehpe 3 years ago
Source?
Woodenlegjoe 3 years ago
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For Kievan Rus', any standard work on Russian or Ukrainian history will do (up to the time of the Tatar invasion). You can also check the Wikipedia articles on the History of Russia and on the History of Ukraine. (To see the difference in approach between them, consult the respective articles in the Russian and Ukrainian wikipedias. Their literature list, together with the one in the corresponding English Wikipedia article, is a good place to start comparing opinions on the topic.)
Asehpe 3 years ago
give me some links to those standart works on Russian and Ukrainian history
Woodenlegjoe 3 years ago
@hizman There were skipped and altered many facts(in general the bad ones), anyway,that doesnt mean that this cartoon was garbage.Its common politics in nowadays(as it was in the past) to make cartoons like this one. Of course in those times name "latvian" didnt make much sense, but do you think that other countries doesnt make up their history?( and Latvia isnt the bigest rewriter of history- just look at russian history books). And at last- whats the point of proving latvian existence?
tupums15 1 year ago
@tupums15 Dude, just look at America... every country rewrites
osloboez 8 months ago
really great video, but i dont get the last bit before the independence about Brezhnev. what did he actually do?
SovietGuy101 3 years ago
Sweet vid
Loved the 1917 bit.
somethingboring 3 years ago 3
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fuck politics,matter fact-make money not love,screw it all,fuck haters,we are doing our own thing,get money or die,niga
etodag 3 years ago
Nu protams, ka 8 minūtēs nevar visas tēmas apskatīt.... dažām atsevišķi gadiem nepietiks... te ļoti daudz kā nav... bet kopumā ideja itin laba :)
OkHuman 3 years ago
Vladp72
What could so small country do to so big as Russia or USA?
madfrogkaka 3 years ago
Labs darbs :)
madfrogkaka 3 years ago 2
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I did not get you point about Latvian riflemens. Before WWII Latvia voted to join USSR, all though I agree it was under the pressure, but USSR did not annex. During WWII Latvians were not as yellow and fluffy as it shown in the movie they executed holocaust. My point is that Latvians did bad things to others, but this movie skips this.
vladp72 3 years ago
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Latvians were not that passive in the course of history. Would you grow up and start taking some responsibilities? Should not Latvians take blame for supporting Lenin? He would be down if it were not "Red Shooters" from Latvia. How about Latvians in the Soviet Union secret service who were managing and executing terror on the USSR territory after the revolution? How about holocaust that Latvians executed and not just in Latvia, but in neighboring states too?
vladp72 3 years ago
Soviet Union secret service were controled by Jews
demoappggg 3 years ago
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Nut sure who controlled it, but there were number of Latvians in the high level positions.
vladp72 3 years ago
Of corse there was ! In any nation are number of idiots !
renutorrent 3 years ago
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That is exactly my point. We generalize and put the sign equals between these idiots and others. Russians are getting blamed for doings of idiots of many nations. USSR was a country of many nations. If anything went wrong everyone gets responsibility. In USSR Latvia was ruled mostly by Latvians. The Latvians communists are still doing very well. They converted to nationalists and have very aggressive rhetoric blaming Russians for the things they were doing to the country.
vladp72 3 years ago
Don't forget that afterwards Stalin had them all executed, along with many other Latvian families in the western Russia. A silent genocide your history books don't teach you about. All you do is put all the blame on your neighbours, you Russians never see the fault in your doings. Oh, we've been more than passive in the history of European and worldwide bloodshed, if we're compared to Russia, UK, Spain and many more nations.
Lachausis 3 years ago 3
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Russians, unlike their neighbors did not deny theirs involvement in the processes of that time. USSR was not a country of one nation. All other nations were involved too. What surprises me is how many of the countries that were contributing into the evilness of the time are denying that and are trying to pretend being victims of the history. Latvians helped Lenin to get power. 20 years later Stalin did bad things to Latvia. By the way Stalin sent to Sibarea many nations and most of all Russians
vladp72 3 years ago
Latvian red riflemen helped, but not Latvia as a country. Never as a country. Riflemen were just a small part of it. Neither communists, no Nazis ever supported our freedom and independence. So think before you talk bullshit about Latvia. We declared our neutrality prior to WWII, but no - communists had to invade and annex us. Nazis drafted Latvians for their dirty cause, so did the russians, although it was against the international agreements.
Lachausis 3 years ago 11
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I did not get you point about Latvian riflemens. Before WWII Latvia voted to join USSR, all though I agree it was under the pressure, but USSR did not annex. During WWII Latvians were not as yellow and fluffy as it shown in the movie they executed holocaust. My point is that Latvians did bad things to others, but this movie skips this.
vladp72 3 years ago
Yes, there were Latvians who were shooting jews. So what? We are not proud of them. But those were the police battalions, not Latvian legion. Almost every country in Europe had people participating in holocaust. Even Stalin ordered shooting of jews.
When will you russians remember one thing - up to 90% of Latvian legion members were conscripted! Do you know what it means? They were forced into joining the SS, as were Latvian divisions in the red army - forced to fight. We didn't ask for war.
Lachausis 3 years ago 5
To vladp72.
So you wanted here a detailed analysis of WW2 and Latvia's involvement in it??!!
Good thing you didn't direct this cartoon.
P.S. Don't you think that in "Cheburashka" the authors didn't reveal enough the problems of Soviet zoos and protecting the endangered species?
LVG31 3 years ago
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This animation is just a drop in the flood of propaganda that is going on in Latvia. The message is that Latvians are good peaceful and superior and surrounded by aggressive barbarians. This is a dangerous misconception that leads to unneeded conflicts between people of many nations leaving in Latvia. Latvians contributed their load of badness in the course of history.
vladp72 3 years ago
How about great humour? Self-irony? It's a pity that you can see this lovely bit of animation as nothing more than a piece of propaganda.
LVG31 3 years ago 2
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Perhaps being citizen of Latvia and observing how nationalism is cultivated just does not put me in a humorous mood. I would most likely look at this differently if Latvians would not be so dead serious about the past.
vladp72 3 years ago
You are funny. Of course there will be Latvian nationalism in Latvia. Just as there is Russian nationalism in Russia, and German nationalism in Germany, and Turkish nationalism in Turkey, and American nationalsim in the US, etc.
Arli99 3 years ago 4
Nationalism exists everywhere it isnt just Latvia
SovietGuy101 3 years ago
@vladp72 How else would you describe the Russian ultimative "mutual aid" agreement for Latvia? Either take Latvia by force, or make sign Latvian leadership a contract and just took it anyway. At the time when the Latvian Song Festival was celebrated outside the capital USSR army came across the border, killing innocent family of border guards.
But why in hell anything of this should be commented under puppuet cartoon - I have no idea. :)
edza21 1 year ago
tieshaam labi! ljoti skaidri atteelota veesture! :)
gmiezis 3 years ago 4
That was surprisingly informative, including the ending which implies Latvian sovereignty from US foreign interventionism.
The fact that the caricatures of the invaders were not subtitled into Latvian language is also illustrative of the problems of imperialism and the retention of culture in the face of political change.
BierBrille 3 years ago 3
Speaking as Latvian-American (my family had to flee the Soviets) The ending is simple we've always been caught up in the middle East vs West. An like the poor Lativan in the vid we've always been trampled under while the two go at each other. We simply want to be left alone to be simply Latvian with our own culture our own ways. Thus the "Do Not Disturb" and Plis(Fort) closed to everyone but Latvians. In short isolationsism and freedom. God Bless Latvia!
Vort317545 3 years ago 3
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Latvietis vienmēr ir bijis roku bučotājs un dirsā līdējs pie visām varām.... :D
alexxxxxx23 3 years ago
Labs darbs! Aplaudeeju!!!
Uladzimirs 3 years ago 4
That was sweet(Foarte frumos)
WumpaLumpa 3 years ago 8