22 minutes is not in any way a detriment to this video. Your arguments are clear concise, and compelling. I honestly never even gave this issue a thought before I discovered this mini-series of your videos, and I want to thank you for disabusing me of my ignorance.
Before, I was on the fence about whether I supported legalizing prostitution, mostly because of the moral issue. Your videos have provided a strong, convincing argument. I now see that laws should make actions illegal NOT because those actions may be immoral to certain people, but because those actions would cause harm to others. This makes me see things in a new perspective. Thanks for sharing.
The only thing I can agree with is that a person should be allowed to do with there body as they wish. Feminist of course were concerned with sex workers setting women back I dont think they concidered that some women would willingly be prostitutes.
@ryankc83 I go "Hey, I wouldn't mind if you and I played pretend for a bit and you 'force' me to have sex." (or vice versa) and that person goes "Sure." *commence happy-fun-sexy-time* or, sometimes *time passes... then SURPRISE, commence happy-fun-sexy-time* or "No thanks."
@desolate44butsure Actually, the term "sex work" has been around for a long time. It refers to any kind of work in any branch of the sex industry, not just prostitution. Professional phone sex, exotic dance, adult modelling, etc, is all considered "sex work."
Nevada is to strict. I went to Thailand and had more sex there in two weeks than I did in the 23 years of living in America. The Nevada model also doesnot allow women to go into business for themselves. I say let's do the UK and Canadian model. Keep the hookers off the street, but allow them to advertise in news papers and on the internet. And allow them and their client to engage in the exchange of sex for money discreetly. Brothels are ok but allow for women to work outside them on their own.
The problem with the "Nevada Model" is prostitutes can't legally operate their business outside of a brothel, which means they're still under third party management. Because of this monopoly, brothels can exploit their employees by charging 50% commission, enforcing long hour days, and employing them as private contractors (which means no benefits.) So it's kind of like having a corporate pimp.
I come from the Netherlands, and prostitution is legal here. So, everybody who thinks that the red light districts are only in the shady parts of town, there's a red light district next to my school. Not only that, my school is one of the best schools of the country and some of my classmates travel 50 km to go to this school. And it's right next to a red light district. Nobody gives a damn ;). (Plus, there are no hookers there during schooltime, only in the evening)
Great video, I agree with you that prostitution should be legal in the US. I think the religious right and the feminist left, would never allow prostitution to be legal in America.
I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY I'm for LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION EVERYWHERE as long as they are LEGAL CONSENTING ADULTS, to get the proper treatment and protection they so rightfully deserve, SO DON'T HATE APPRECIATE 8)
I first really thought about this when I read about a porn actress who committed suicide and somebody used that to criticize the porn industry and was very demeaning and hateful about the women who work there and I just thought:
"Dude, did it ever cross your mind that people like you who meet this women with hate, consider them 3/5 of a human being at best and making them pariahs might have something to do with them not being very happy?"
Who are the ones saying women only do it because they have NO OTHER CHOICE? The same ones who want to make that ONLY CHOICE (according to them) illegal? Is it your goal to make life harder on desperate people? Because you know that ONLY CHOICE (according to you) would be a whole lot safer/easier if it were legal and the prostitutes could get back up from the cops if they're being abused, instead of suffering double abuse form pimps AND cops.
There are really people out there who don't think there are ANY women who enjoy sex enough to WANT to charge for it?
Is it easy for you to imagine a man wanting to charge for sex? There's a LOT of overlap between the genders. Sure, there are probably fewer women than men who would want to be prostitutes, but there are some (that should be obvious), and you want to deny their right just so you can keep the ones who are only doing it out of desperation from having the job you think they NEED?
It would absolutely break my heart if my daughter was a prostitute and I would do everything in my power to prevent anyone in my family from going down that path. But if the Peach chick was selling I'd buy...
Even if they were at least speaking from experience in sex work, they would still not have the right to speak for all others! Despite what they're claiming, sex workers are unique individuals with all kinds of backgrounds, reasons, education levels, options, etc.. They don't all fit into some neat & convenient one-size-fits-all mold that represents & describes all sex workers. Seriously, these people SUCK. So Thank you for this and your other videos...and for being an ally. You're awesome! xox
By speaking FOR them instead of listening TO them. Anti-Sex Radical feminists do not speak for me or anyone I know, they do not care about anything other than their own agenda & they are (by far) more disrespectful, condescending, offensive, degrading & demoralizing than anyone I have ever met. They do not know what they speak of, no one has ever asked them to speak for sex workers - they cannot speak for them because they are not them! What they assume about sex work doesn't make it true!
That would not fit what they've already decided they know about prostitution and would force them to question their assumptions and stop claiming they are "facts". That they somehow feel entitled to speak for sex workers is insulting. They really don't care what sex workers really think - they've figured it out for us. You hit the nail on the head: it's all about projection. It really angers me that these "feminists" are responsible for causing much of the harm suffered by sex workers.
Because street workers are the only prostitutes visible.What people don't care to know is that street prostitution only accounts for 15%-20% of all prostitution and what may be true for them isn't necessarily true for the 75%-80% of hookers all these people have most likely never seen, never been aware of and certainly never attempted to know more (or anything at all!) about. That would not fit what they think they already know and have all the answers for about prostitution..
Great videos. I find it unbelievably arrogant & disingenuous for all these people to pretend they have any idea who prostitutes are, what sex work is really like, what it's about & why some women choose it! They don't know shit! They pretend that their own feelings about it can only mean that it's the way it must be. Or that we're one and the same even though most of them are only thinking of the sad cases the media loves to show the world. Because those are the only ones that are VISIBLE.
I love well thought out and put together arguments that challenge deeply entrenched social mores. Many people voice concerns. Which among them has actually done something about poverty or human suffering? Do you have the courage?
Wow, as a young woman I find this offending in so many ways. First, the lack of respect for herself is just sad. There is a reason to why this is tabu, to why this is illegal. It is yet another way to make women inferior in the society and to obectify the female body. Second, using all those images does not really work to your benefit on giving an intelligent "speech", honey. Third, what kind of signals would you send to young people if one would legalize prostitution? Last, ANNOYING VOICE!!
@KattOOshi Wow, really? If they agree to it, if they consent to it, if they decide that they want to do something with their bodies that harms no one, they're being "objectified" and made "inferior in the society"? I'm a young woman, too. I'd never want to work in the sex industry, but that's MY choice. If someone else wants to, that's THEIR choice. Being allowed to legally decide what to do with your own body does NOT make you "inferior". Second, have you ever heard of "VISUAL AIDS"? They help.
@Hannaitlyn I work as a lawyer and see the problem of prostitution in another than you. I see the real complications. To say that it's THEIR choice is naive, because the consequences go further than that. It's like saying a murderer killed by own choice and therefor we should allow people to kill. It doesn't work that way. There is a reason to why it is illegal; it's wrong and it sends out the wrong message to young people.
@KattOOshi --- Lawyer? --- What's the other difference between a lawyer and a prostitute?... Clothes. ---------------- What do lawyers and prostitutes have in common? They both get paid to screw people. ------------ LOL
@KattOOshi Wanting to legalize people's right to body autonomy "shows a lack of responsibility thinking"? I don't see the connection. It's not like I want to be a prostitute, but if someone else does, then that's perfectly fine. Doesn't hurt me one bit.
When hearing some of the people against legalized prostitute that you showed examples of in this video, the common opinion seems to be that they think no one would want to grow up to have sex and get paid. But on the contrary that would be my dream job. Doing something pleasurable and making money, and the thought that someone sees you so attractive that they pay you for it, that would boost my confidence if anything. If I thought I was sexy enough, I would be whoring myself like crazy.
God, I really fuck with you on your views. What the fuck is marraige? It's a woman selling herself to the highest bidder essentially and these idiots think on some subconscious level that they're value is increasing because they are playing the "chaste" card. They're doomed to a life filled with dull sex.
People say prostitution is wrong, but point a camera in front of them and call them porn stars or aduld entertainment actors and people watch it in hotel rooms or at home.
Okay for the sake of argument that brings better consideration...
Legislation prohibiting necrophilia is founded on a moral basis and yet are entirely logical, because it protects the 'rights' of a non-human (object, if you count a dead body as such) that represents the memory of loved ones and is protected by the laws of common decency.
Is no-necro a property law? If so then is it the family who owns the body of former loved one? What if said body has no family, does the state protect it?
@ParadoxPerspective, If in a person's last will and testament they wished to have their remains used as a necrohooker then I guess that would be consentual. Otherwise, it would be rape.
@ParadoxPerspective, An executor of estate (post-mortis pimp) would have to collect from the johns and dole the money out to the beneficiaries named in the dead hussy's will. Umm... i meant that with all due respect.
The level of cognitive dissonance present in the people in this video is astounding! I do not understand how these anti-prostitution fucks can even pretend that they're making any sense because it has to be obvious to the most menial of intelligence that the arguments they issue are absolute failures. Also, you're the best, Peach :)
There is no way to differentiate between someone that was exploited at a young age into selling their bodies and an adult who just decided that fucking strangers for money would be a well thought out career move. Nevada has their shit together but we're not talking about introducing a system anywhere near what they have. Go ahead and try to convince an escort service in small town Canada to film their clients in the act and you'll see exactly who the law is really protecting.
"There is no way to differentiate between someone that was exploited at a young age into selling their bodies and an adult who just decided that fucking strangers for money would be a well thought out career move."
- i believe that's why 'people at a young age' are identified as 'minors' who are unable to make legally binding choices, yes?
I've watched all 4 of your videos on Prostitution, and I'm agree with your opinion on the topic of criminalizing/decriminalizing Prostitution between Consenting Adults - I too personally would NEVER EVER want to be a porn star or prostitute.
I believe without a shadow of a doubt that each and every person should have the right to LEGALLY offer sexual services in exchange for money. If it's between LEGAL CONSENTING ADULTS as you've said clearly a bunch of times, there is nothing wrong with that
I wonder how many of the legal prostitutes in Nevada are victims of human trafficking or even just illegal immigrants compared to the illegal prostitutes in the rest of the U.S.A. Just saying.
Before you Peach and ZOMGitsCriss I had honestly never thought of it this way. Family members had always just told me that prostitution was low. Now that I'm older and acknowledging things about myself I'm starting to question a lot of the things they told me. It's hard to change a mindset implemented by family since birth.
How is prostitution because of poverty worse than any other job you do for the same reason?If it wasn't publicly seen as such a bad thing, maybe it would feel like such a bad option. If I get to choose my clients, I have no problem with being a prostitute. You can earn a lot of money in a few hours work.
@FierceRodents I see, but if I was a customer, and I had a pregnant wife at home who was sexually uninterested, should I hire a hooker to quench my sexual thirst? ThePeach's blind libertarianism fails to consider questions of morality, simply because they don't matter.
And should I be driven only by money and not give any care to morals?
@JunnyICurosi If you are the customer, your morals are your problem alone. Does the bank care if you spend your money on alcohol and beat your wife senseless?
Sex for money is in my opinion not morally wrong, and I wouldn't want laws to tell me what morals I should have. If I can't live with the thought of married men hurting their wives by paying me for sex, I simply don't become a prostitute. If I don't want to kill, I don't become a soldier, and so on.
Uhm... Prostitution is legal in my country and we have not seen an increase in human slave trafficking into our country.
It is strictly checked wether they are brought in to be sexslaves or not. And as it is legal, this makes it alot more easy to regulate as we know where to look to check it up.
I donot see what the problem is. Legalizing makes it alot safer. It is gonna happen (as bas as I think that is). Better to make it as safe as possible. And that can only be through legalizing.
If you are against prositution then where is the "money-limit" before it is not prostituion?
500 $, 100$, 10$ or maybe an apartment? An apartment is not cash directly but still property so I guess it's still prostitution
What about a t-shirt? or a drink in the bar? I heard from many that they have payed for girls' drinks friday night only thinking about getting a "1-nighter". Are they trying to buy a "cheeap" prostitut?
Some women only date/marry men with a lot of money. Are they prostituts?
well said peach i don't have a problem with prostitution or anyone sleeping with them legally or what not it's their choice but for a guy like me i wouldn't sleep with a prostitute and i'll admit that and i made a video response to one of your videos about feminists i hope you enjoy it :)
@yehyehyeh I like the message behind this video, She is supporting individual freedom and denouncing government regulation of something that is an example of free market capitalism which we are taught to belive in, But then our goverment gives us a set of regulations on the market which is an example of facism NOT free market capitalism. capitalism + a goverment restricted market = facism. If you disagree with her why not make a counter argument instead of just typing "Rotten Peach"?
xxxThePeachxxx I Applaud you, good lady. You've done a thoroughly good job in creating a fact based and logically sound argument. Sadly, there are going to be some that are perfectly comfortable in their own bullshit, and will not change their views no matter how many facts or how much logic you throw at them. Atheists, like myself, face a very similar problem. But I'm sure you've changed the minds of some otherwise logical people, or people who had never given the subject much or any thought.
I can't believe that you think Arizona is the way to go, when it comes to prostitution. Even the clips from sanitized corporate videos you used in your video makes it look like something from Stepford Wives (The original film, not the remake :-) So is that really where you want this society to end up? Because that's the thing - we are all individuals, but at the same time we are also part of a society, so we have to think about how our actions and choices will effect the way society develops.
banning Pr0$titution will get hookers off of the street, Just like banning drugs got drugs off the street, And how gun control stopped violent crime....Oh..Wait...lol
Now if your argument against Pr0$titution is that to have sex as a profession you must take on more partners thus causing more chance of disease, Then by that logic promiscuity should also be illegal,as well as anything that can increase health risks meaning you would have to ban nearly everything. money going from one hand to another does not increase the spred of S.T.Ds, The ONLY thing that CAN increase that is lack of condom use, so promote safe sex rather than promoting draconian laws.
It's simple: Allowing work with the hands and prohibiting work with the genitals arises from a contrived and arbitrary distinction. The same is true for allowing people to rub others' necks for pay but prohibiting them from rubbing others' genitals for pay.
AND....the silly distinction is fundamentally based on some people's interpretation of messages that other people claim to have received from supernatural entities (gods).
So you were raised in a slum, so what, I didn't see flea bitten kids running around begging for change or food. I never have in an American slum. Kinda weird ain't it?
I dunno. I think I'm still against prostitution. I just think making prostitution easier by making it legal encourages... encourages people to buy prostitutes. And I don't like the already sex-obsessed culture my country allows. The fact that prostitution goes on against the law so frequently demonstrates our lack of self control. If we're talking about something like booze or weed, it's different. Those kind of things aren't even close to being as taboo as prostitution.
@Hjernespreng Do you know what taboo means? By definition it is something that people care about and are strongly opposed to. Not a few people, but the vast majority.
The values and norms of a society need to be taken into consideration when making laws or removing prohibitive laws. If a society is strongly opposed to prostitution, those who engage in it are social deviants, in this case out of lust. And I'm not going to support a change to "Okay" a lack of self control.
@crazypants88 Well first of all, I wasn't trying to make an objective argument. When you're talking about making laws, it's ALL subjective and dependent on the consensus and/or the betterment of society. I just thought I'd present my opinion and the reasoning behind it rather than blindly agree with someone else--although I am often prone to as I think Peach is brilliant. Since when did a second opinion ever hurt anyone.
@Loustrikesagain In order to make the case that prohibition of prostitution IS for the betterment of society you must point out the undesirability of it. I think it's kind of telling that you still haven't made that argument.
You didn't say victim but in order for something to be criminal it must have a victim. Also what I meant by that part with subjective values is that you need to make a better argument then "I don't like prostitution therefore it's bad" which you were basically making.
@crazypants88 I definitely didn't say "I don't like prostitution therefore it's bad." You can reread my previous comments.
And notice I said "consensus and/or the betterment." And furthermore, I'm not a lawyer, political scientist, or sociologist. I'm not trying to give a professional analysis. And I DID point out the undesirability of it.
I'll go back to drugs. Selling drugs is a crime, but it has no real "victim."
@crazypants88 "No you didn't ... said." That's not what I said at all, implicitly or directly...
If you want to see where I explained the undesirability, you could look at my comments..?
And I just thought I'd point out that crime does not imply a victim. And how is the parallel between drug crimes having no victims and prostitution having no victims make a basis to argue that prostitution should be legalized?
@crazypants88 Here. I thought I might look up the word crime for you so you could continue this discussion knowing what you're talking about or shut up.
Crime: "an action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited." from Dictionary*dot*com
@Loustrikesagain Yeah that fits the definition that I was using pretty well. An action that results in people being harmed.
The question still remains, what is the criminal element of prostitution? What is it in the act of selling or buying sexual services that results in harm to anyone in the equation. NB I'm talking about consensual prostitution.
@crazypants88 "or morals or to the interests of the state" did you forget about that part? No one has to be "harmed" for something to damaged the "interests of the state" or MORALS. MORALS--kind of like what I was saying about laws being based on subjective views, right?
Like seriously, are you completely fucking blind to what I'm saying? You seriously don't seem to understand anything that contributes to a contradictory opinion. You need to check the motives of your reasoning....
@crazypants88 "By that criteria anything could be made illegal."
That's a very poor interpretation. In fact it directly contradicts what the definition states. Before it's illegal it would have to be "deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state." But I'll give you props for effort. You're working really hard to distort logic to fit your opinion.
I don't exactly support its prohibition. It's already illegal. I just don't support it's legalization.
quit pulling hairs and answer thde question, why should it be illegal? It's my body and as long as I am not doing harm to others or myself, what right do you have to tell me I'm wrong!
@Inovocre12 I don't know why it should be illegal. I'm not an expert, and I don't act like one. The fact is that it is illegal, and most people agree that it should be illegal. I don't know what kind of effects it could have on our economy because I'm not an economist. I don't know how it could possibly effect the well being of humans because I'm not a psychologist or biologist.
Beyond these factors, the choice of legal or not is determined by popular opinion which disagrees with it.
@Loustrikesagain Again not true, when the law was passed it was a long time ago, when the "moral Majority" passed it! Because your United States is a prudish country! But times have changed, and I do believe that some forms of prostitution is legal, so why not make all of them! And when you talk to most Vice cops they will say to legalize prostitution and drugs!
@Inovocre12 Umm... none of that made anything I said "not true." "some forms of prostitution [are] legal, so why not make all of them!" ---horse shit.
"Best joke about prostitution was by Bernard Shaw. He told this woman that everyone would agree to do anything for money. `Well, I wouldn't,' she said. `Oh yes you would,' he said. `For instance,' he said, `would you sleep with me for a million pounds?' `Well,' she said, `Yes.' `Would you do it for one pound?' said Bernard Shaw. `Certainly not!' said the woman `What do you take me for? A prostitute?' `We've established that,' said Bernard Shaw. `We're just trying to fix your price now!' "
Great video! I completely agree with all your points! Prostitution being illegal just doesn't make sense.
Why is it that giving a woman $100 for sex is illegal, but spending $100 on dinner and a movie, and then having sex, is legal? WTF? Most women prostitute themselves, whether they want to call it that or not. Their price is just goods rather than cash. As far as I am concerned, the prostitutes are the ones who are being honest about the transaction.
Lol man I dont get it either. Marriage itself is essentially prostitution in that many women use sex to sway their husbands into doing something they want. We are all slaves to some extent, everyone just has a different price.
Peach, I suppose the 'kernel of truth' in the anti's argument is that there is a lot of exploitation inside the illegal sex industry (=prostitiution): people who are indeed forced (by e.g. pimps) and who are there against their will and actually harming themselves.
But they get so defensive when they're asked how abolitionism is going to make this any better. If they would prove that criminalizing prostitution improves the situation, they'd have a point. But they don't. They just assume it will.
A very good point, Peach. It seems many people who criticize prostitution jump to the conclusion that those who defend decriminalization are simply OK with eeeverything about prostitution and should demonstrate it by engaging in it themselves. Riight. So if I'm in favor of the right of gays to serve in the military, I should demonstrate that by (a) becoming gay, and (b) entering the military... two things I really don't want to do.
@DblOSmith Well just because someone holds a position with which you don't agree doesn't mean you can't like them. Hell, most of my friends are fundies, and I'm an atheist!
@ChocoboKillerKanyo That's definitely true. I didn't word that well. The coworker at work that I get along with the most is a Rush Limbaugh republican. *shiver* I still like Hemsley and he's a sexy, sexy man. "Disappointed" would have been a better word.
EHM... SORRY?!?! WOMEN CONTROLS SEX??? what about Strippers party ? What about it?!
Sorry Peach but in that point you are acting as the same people that you criticise , there is no difference between man and women , some are willing to pay for sex and don't , thats all.
I am actually starting to think it's a good thing that you now have to re-upload your videos. It gives me a good excuse to re-watch them without feeling like a total stalker :D
@topherh33 Hey it is my favorite stupid! " or that you would want your child exposed to highly addictive drugs like crack or heroin." The o in "or" was not capital or separated by a semicolon. So you wrote in improper sentence hence forth it was still "attached" to your other sentence that was about prostitutes, so you inadvertently connected the two subjects. Damn stupid how does it feel like to get crushed by the Marine agian!? Marine 2, Stupid 0!
HUMAN RIGHTS! I hope to live to see complete Rights for All Living Organisms. It is frustrating that people continue to say stupid shit based on their own standards. Not everyone thinks and feels the same way! It's ok to disagree, but to make people feel guilty about doing something to their own body is just fucked up. Causing physical harm to another living organism is wrong bc it takes away from their moment to enjoy life. But causing MENTAL HARM is just as fucked! STOP MIND FUCKING!
@DeistDreamer Why cant you have a position without resorting to hateful words?
Legal prostitution allows women to turn down any man she wants, and they do turn down men they dont want
You also ignore the sex worker unions, and sex workers that come from well to do families. Why do you have to be so emotionally out of control and how do you so easily dismiss the voices of the women who love their profession?
Even if they were really toys, if its by choice, why should you stop them?
It would be interesting to see just how many people that don't like (or maybe even hate) their jobs?? I'm willing to bet that it is in the majority. Isn't that whoring yourself out for money too?
I really don't care if people are prostitutes as long as they don't yell near my bedroom window anymore. Man they are so annoying. I have to say, I never saw any pimps though (very good news)
@Danelaw4UK If such people believe they have no choice, then taking away their only known choice only worsens the problem.
What I hate about that argument is its said that if you give them more choices they wont choose prostitution, but then whats the point of taking away prostitution as a choice?
If they wont choose it anyway, then whats the point?
But assuming nobody would choose it insults women, saying no woman can possibly enjoy sex, or if she does, she cant possibly enjoy for money
What I'm saying is that, if you were to legalise prostitution, then ensuring that the people who enter the trade understand it isn't the only choice they have would be a good idea; at the very least it covers your own back.
I have much the same opinion of the armed services too - they should be giving people who opt to sign up a better idea of the inherent dangers and deprivations of Army/ Navy life, allowing them to make an informed choice.
@YourDarkAccomplice I dont get the point of rest of your post. Anecdotal evidence doesnt mean much. Its not good to base anything on, though its hard to get past personal experience
Still, as to feeling cheap, think how employees of most corporations fee
We are treated like trash and the middle management admits that we are disposable people, to be used and discarded
But its tough finding a good job
And how does competition with younger women turn to leaving a piece of soul with a client?
@waltermh111 - You don't understand the anecdote to my point? Well, let me sum it up for you: the impression I got from that blog was that the business left you feeling cheap and empty. All over the world people have felt sex was valuable and sacred... and saying that it's ok to feel cheap because regular jobs make you feel cheap as well, doesn't support the cause.
As for the whole topic of prostitution, I think it's an advancement and step up for empowerment, just looking at the "pros/cons"
@Wolfau5 Yes, the law against living off of a prostitute is usually written shortsightedly.
You named the exact problems, and its simple to fix, but not likely to be soon because nearly any pro-prostitution law seems written begrudgingly and without much input allowed from the prostitution community.
@ScentedNectar thanks, you answered my other question with this response.
I figured anyway, but its definitely an improvement, and a step to ending stigmatisation. But its still only one area, so its seen more as a novelty which has its own stigma and doesnt really counter the overall one too well because most people dont live around this semi-legal area.
Too bad it never spread, even the Nevada model would do well to prove alot of points if it spread.
@waltermh111 I guess it's a step in the right direction, but I worry that it might stop the goal of full legalization, setting the unfair semi=legal rules as some sort of standard instead of just a step up.
No other businesses are restricted in these ways without good reason. It's the stigma that keeps it from being accepted as a small business people can set up for themselves. It's being kept in approved-brothel-monopoly run sin ghettos away from all the respectable people.
You have to do it from a brothel huh? I agree, thats not truly legal. Its very restrictive. Especially if you are restricted in more ways than that.
But antis then get an opening to point at sex trafficking that still happens right?
Though their stats of increases is such bull because reportings would increase due to more informents and bringing it all into the light due to legalisation.
@waltermh111 "You have to do it from a brothel huh?"
As far as I know. I need to read up more though. That means they control IF they hire you, your wage, hours, number of customers booked, etc.
"But antis then get an opening to point at sex trafficking"
The trafficking definition mixes in people who simply travel from another area to work there and other things too. Divinity33372 has some good ones on the definition, including her newest.
@topherh33 Wow dude nice generalization and and judging me for sleeping with hookers. Even if I did how would you know or should you care..Now the sex partners I am with I use protection because I'm smart unlike you....I can tell your stupid. I'm sorry you have poor judgement of character, but alas you will never understand because your to stupid. Oh btw it has been proven that when hooken is legal they are less likely to get on drugs....but again your to stupid to understand.
@DeadMarine1980 when did i say hookers were on drugs? what an embacile maybe you should go back to school and learn to read. I sure hope your nickname doesnt mean you are a marine
The stupidity of comments like some on this video shouldn't surprise me, but they never cease to. Pull your head out of your your either far right or far left out of your asses. Both wind up with different reasons to oppose the legalization of prostitution - the right with bs personal ideological, religious beliefs, and the left just being hypocritical regarding their supposed support for gender equality and women rights.
I'm very poor, I was abused, I come for a single-parent home and I am a minority. Even at my lowest I never considered going into the sex trade. Why? Because I don't like sex that much. I'm not a pro, no pun intended. I'm happy to give it away for free. But to the pros out there, my hat is off to you.
I hope my daughters don't choose sex work as a career.
But I've known quite a few people over the years who DID choose sex as a way of making money.
And all of them CHOSE ir as a way of making more money than they might have been able to make otherwise.
Unfortunately, like pets and religion and abortion, this is one of those arguments that cannot be conducted rationally, because people's emotional responses are too deeply ingrained.
6:01-6:09 If you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs. I like how you go on to say that human trafficking a problem regardless of the law since it actually decreased in Sweden.
most high end escorts come from middle class suburban families!
mrcharles007 1 day ago
22 minutes is not in any way a detriment to this video. Your arguments are clear concise, and compelling. I honestly never even gave this issue a thought before I discovered this mini-series of your videos, and I want to thank you for disabusing me of my ignorance.
SimplyAComment 2 weeks ago
Before, I was on the fence about whether I supported legalizing prostitution, mostly because of the moral issue. Your videos have provided a strong, convincing argument. I now see that laws should make actions illegal NOT because those actions may be immoral to certain people, but because those actions would cause harm to others. This makes me see things in a new perspective. Thanks for sharing.
MysticNessly 1 month ago
@xxxThePeachxxx great video keep up the good work!
Tethloach1 1 month ago
I wonder how much this girl would charge?
manny298 1 month ago
The only thing I can agree with is that a person should be allowed to do with there body as they wish. Feminist of course were concerned with sex workers setting women back I dont think they concidered that some women would willingly be prostitutes.
cynt123able 2 months ago
WTF is consensual rape lol
ryankc83 2 months ago
@ryankc83 I go "Hey, I wouldn't mind if you and I played pretend for a bit and you 'force' me to have sex." (or vice versa) and that person goes "Sure." *commence happy-fun-sexy-time* or, sometimes *time passes... then SURPRISE, commence happy-fun-sexy-time* or "No thanks."
MechanicalCoupling 2 months ago in playlist Pr0$titution
@ryankc83 But it's obviously not what that guy was talking about.
MechanicalCoupling 2 months ago in playlist Pr0$titution
Oh yes prostitution is a full-out job now. Called sex work. All legitimate. Tell the world! Start a movement. Wow.
desolate44butsure 2 months ago
@desolate44butsure Actually, the term "sex work" has been around for a long time. It refers to any kind of work in any branch of the sex industry, not just prostitution. Professional phone sex, exotic dance, adult modelling, etc, is all considered "sex work."
PenelopeBaden 3 weeks ago
Nevada is to strict. I went to Thailand and had more sex there in two weeks than I did in the 23 years of living in America. The Nevada model also doesnot allow women to go into business for themselves. I say let's do the UK and Canadian model. Keep the hookers off the street, but allow them to advertise in news papers and on the internet. And allow them and their client to engage in the exchange of sex for money discreetly. Brothels are ok but allow for women to work outside them on their own.
travelingjohn69 3 months ago
OK it's official this girl is a hooker. My only question is what will she charge me to fuck her?
travelingjohn69 3 months ago
The problem with the "Nevada Model" is prostitutes can't legally operate their business outside of a brothel, which means they're still under third party management. Because of this monopoly, brothels can exploit their employees by charging 50% commission, enforcing long hour days, and employing them as private contractors (which means no benefits.) So it's kind of like having a corporate pimp.
SmileysRevenge100 4 months ago
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Men don't want to pay for sex, they want it for free.
goldengyrl2010 4 months ago
I come from the Netherlands, and prostitution is legal here. So, everybody who thinks that the red light districts are only in the shady parts of town, there's a red light district next to my school. Not only that, my school is one of the best schools of the country and some of my classmates travel 50 km to go to this school. And it's right next to a red light district. Nobody gives a damn ;). (Plus, there are no hookers there during schooltime, only in the evening)
xxSichaye 4 months ago
How'd you get Steven Hawking to do you're video? OMG!!!
calthopian 4 months ago
Great video, I agree with you that prostitution should be legal in the US. I think the religious right and the feminist left, would never allow prostitution to be legal in America.
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curtis8315 4 months ago
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curtis8315 4 months ago
I first really thought about this when I read about a porn actress who committed suicide and somebody used that to criticize the porn industry and was very demeaning and hateful about the women who work there and I just thought:
"Dude, did it ever cross your mind that people like you who meet this women with hate, consider them 3/5 of a human being at best and making them pariahs might have something to do with them not being very happy?"
PeterK1984 5 months ago
Who are the ones saying women only do it because they have NO OTHER CHOICE? The same ones who want to make that ONLY CHOICE (according to them) illegal? Is it your goal to make life harder on desperate people? Because you know that ONLY CHOICE (according to you) would be a whole lot safer/easier if it were legal and the prostitutes could get back up from the cops if they're being abused, instead of suffering double abuse form pimps AND cops.
Think about your arguments before you make them!
Applemangh 5 months ago
There are really people out there who don't think there are ANY women who enjoy sex enough to WANT to charge for it?
Is it easy for you to imagine a man wanting to charge for sex? There's a LOT of overlap between the genders. Sure, there are probably fewer women than men who would want to be prostitutes, but there are some (that should be obvious), and you want to deny their right just so you can keep the ones who are only doing it out of desperation from having the job you think they NEED?
Applemangh 5 months ago
"What a pile of sh**."
I laughed SO hard...
EpikMagikFishy 5 months ago
Quite an amazing series. Bravo!
ByteMeDammit 5 months ago
It would absolutely break my heart if my daughter was a prostitute and I would do everything in my power to prevent anyone in my family from going down that path. But if the Peach chick was selling I'd buy...
milojetkins 7 months ago
james brown? subbed.
yootesa1515 7 months ago
How much would you charge me to sleep with you?
u2hubbard 7 months ago
Even if they were at least speaking from experience in sex work, they would still not have the right to speak for all others! Despite what they're claiming, sex workers are unique individuals with all kinds of backgrounds, reasons, education levels, options, etc.. They don't all fit into some neat & convenient one-size-fits-all mold that represents & describes all sex workers. Seriously, these people SUCK. So Thank you for this and your other videos...and for being an ally. You're awesome! xox
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
By speaking FOR them instead of listening TO them. Anti-Sex Radical feminists do not speak for me or anyone I know, they do not care about anything other than their own agenda & they are (by far) more disrespectful, condescending, offensive, degrading & demoralizing than anyone I have ever met. They do not know what they speak of, no one has ever asked them to speak for sex workers - they cannot speak for them because they are not them! What they assume about sex work doesn't make it true!
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
That would not fit what they've already decided they know about prostitution and would force them to question their assumptions and stop claiming they are "facts". That they somehow feel entitled to speak for sex workers is insulting. They really don't care what sex workers really think - they've figured it out for us. You hit the nail on the head: it's all about projection. It really angers me that these "feminists" are responsible for causing much of the harm suffered by sex workers.
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
Because street workers are the only prostitutes visible.What people don't care to know is that street prostitution only accounts for 15%-20% of all prostitution and what may be true for them isn't necessarily true for the 75%-80% of hookers all these people have most likely never seen, never been aware of and certainly never attempted to know more (or anything at all!) about. That would not fit what they think they already know and have all the answers for about prostitution..
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
Great videos. I find it unbelievably arrogant & disingenuous for all these people to pretend they have any idea who prostitutes are, what sex work is really like, what it's about & why some women choose it! They don't know shit! They pretend that their own feelings about it can only mean that it's the way it must be. Or that we're one and the same even though most of them are only thinking of the sad cases the media loves to show the world. Because those are the only ones that are VISIBLE.
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
did you knowThat prostitution is legal in Singapore and because of that Rape is down to 1%
PUAProfit 8 months ago
I love well thought out and put together arguments that challenge deeply entrenched social mores. Many people voice concerns. Which among them has actually done something about poverty or human suffering? Do you have the courage?
hobofromzozo 8 months ago
Wow, as a young woman I find this offending in so many ways. First, the lack of respect for herself is just sad. There is a reason to why this is tabu, to why this is illegal. It is yet another way to make women inferior in the society and to obectify the female body. Second, using all those images does not really work to your benefit on giving an intelligent "speech", honey. Third, what kind of signals would you send to young people if one would legalize prostitution? Last, ANNOYING VOICE!!
KattOOshi 9 months ago
@KattOOshi Wow, really? If they agree to it, if they consent to it, if they decide that they want to do something with their bodies that harms no one, they're being "objectified" and made "inferior in the society"? I'm a young woman, too. I'd never want to work in the sex industry, but that's MY choice. If someone else wants to, that's THEIR choice. Being allowed to legally decide what to do with your own body does NOT make you "inferior". Second, have you ever heard of "VISUAL AIDS"? They help.
Hannaitlyn 8 months ago
@Hannaitlyn I work as a lawyer and see the problem of prostitution in another than you. I see the real complications. To say that it's THEIR choice is naive, because the consequences go further than that. It's like saying a murderer killed by own choice and therefor we should allow people to kill. It doesn't work that way. There is a reason to why it is illegal; it's wrong and it sends out the wrong message to young people.
KattOOshi 8 months ago
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MULEYBOY1 8 months ago
@KattOOshi --- Lawyer? --- What's the other difference between a lawyer and a prostitute?... Clothes. ---------------- What do lawyers and prostitutes have in common? They both get paid to screw people. ------------ LOL
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
@mademoisellebijou Wow, let me guess, you have a university degree in being funny?
KattOOshi 7 months ago
@KattOOshi Actually, that came naturally.
mademoisellebijou 7 months ago
@Hannaitlyn I think it's insane that there are people pro legalizing it. Shows a lack of responsibility thinking.
KattOOshi 8 months ago
@KattOOshi I really don't see the relevance or the connection here. What does this have to do with (lack of) responsibility thinking?
mademoisellebijou 8 months ago
@KattOOshi Wanting to legalize people's right to body autonomy "shows a lack of responsibility thinking"? I don't see the connection. It's not like I want to be a prostitute, but if someone else does, then that's perfectly fine. Doesn't hurt me one bit.
Hannaitlyn 7 months ago
When hearing some of the people against legalized prostitute that you showed examples of in this video, the common opinion seems to be that they think no one would want to grow up to have sex and get paid. But on the contrary that would be my dream job. Doing something pleasurable and making money, and the thought that someone sees you so attractive that they pay you for it, that would boost my confidence if anything. If I thought I was sexy enough, I would be whoring myself like crazy.
DokiEnchantix 9 months ago
God, I really fuck with you on your views. What the fuck is marraige? It's a woman selling herself to the highest bidder essentially and these idiots think on some subconscious level that they're value is increasing because they are playing the "chaste" card. They're doomed to a life filled with dull sex.
voodoohypnosis 9 months ago
People say prostitution is wrong, but point a camera in front of them and call them porn stars or aduld entertainment actors and people watch it in hotel rooms or at home.
seonidh 9 months ago
Okay for the sake of argument that brings better consideration...
Legislation prohibiting necrophilia is founded on a moral basis and yet are entirely logical, because it protects the 'rights' of a non-human (object, if you count a dead body as such) that represents the memory of loved ones and is protected by the laws of common decency.
Is no-necro a property law? If so then is it the family who owns the body of former loved one? What if said body has no family, does the state protect it?
ParadoxPerspective 9 months ago
@ParadoxPerspective, If in a person's last will and testament they wished to have their remains used as a necrohooker then I guess that would be consentual. Otherwise, it would be rape.
GypsyMofakka 9 months ago
@GypsyMofakka lol necrohooker. Who would be receiving the revenue then?
ParadoxPerspective 9 months ago
@ParadoxPerspective, An executor of estate (post-mortis pimp) would have to collect from the johns and dole the money out to the beneficiaries named in the dead hussy's will. Umm... i meant that with all due respect.
GypsyMofakka 9 months ago
Impressive video, somebody should hook her up with a job at BBC. Love it!
dibwav 10 months ago
The level of cognitive dissonance present in the people in this video is astounding! I do not understand how these anti-prostitution fucks can even pretend that they're making any sense because it has to be obvious to the most menial of intelligence that the arguments they issue are absolute failures. Also, you're the best, Peach :)
tbdaemon 10 months ago
There is no way to differentiate between someone that was exploited at a young age into selling their bodies and an adult who just decided that fucking strangers for money would be a well thought out career move. Nevada has their shit together but we're not talking about introducing a system anywhere near what they have. Go ahead and try to convince an escort service in small town Canada to film their clients in the act and you'll see exactly who the law is really protecting.
softsignals 10 months ago
@softsignals
"There is no way to differentiate between someone that was exploited at a young age into selling their bodies and an adult who just decided that fucking strangers for money would be a well thought out career move."
- i believe that's why 'people at a young age' are identified as 'minors' who are unable to make legally binding choices, yes?
types10000 9 months ago
I've watched all 4 of your videos on Prostitution, and I'm agree with your opinion on the topic of criminalizing/decriminalizing Prostitution between Consenting Adults - I too personally would NEVER EVER want to be a porn star or prostitute.
I believe without a shadow of a doubt that each and every person should have the right to LEGALLY offer sexual services in exchange for money. If it's between LEGAL CONSENTING ADULTS as you've said clearly a bunch of times, there is nothing wrong with that
Toralynn 10 months ago
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Toralynn 10 months ago
they must all be virgins
elphiegreen 10 months ago
I wonder how many of the legal prostitutes in Nevada are victims of human trafficking or even just illegal immigrants compared to the illegal prostitutes in the rest of the U.S.A. Just saying.
steviesbackbitch 11 months ago
Number of videos responding rationally to the subject: Can't find any.
Number of videos responding anti-rationally to the subject: Too many.
vspqbd 11 months ago
@vspqbd They need some UPB, stat.
vspqbd 11 months ago
I'm in sweden!!! and you are right... It sucks
sh4kra 11 months ago
loved the hawking part haahah
thepeach, your too smart and open minded for youtube, but thanks anyway for sticking around :)
managarm1349 1 year ago
Before you Peach and ZOMGitsCriss I had honestly never thought of it this way. Family members had always just told me that prostitution was low. Now that I'm older and acknowledging things about myself I'm starting to question a lot of the things they told me. It's hard to change a mindset implemented by family since birth.
FatalFlutterby 1 year ago
How is prostitution because of poverty worse than any other job you do for the same reason?If it wasn't publicly seen as such a bad thing, maybe it would feel like such a bad option. If I get to choose my clients, I have no problem with being a prostitute. You can earn a lot of money in a few hours work.
FierceRodents 1 year ago
@FierceRodents I see, but if I was a customer, and I had a pregnant wife at home who was sexually uninterested, should I hire a hooker to quench my sexual thirst? ThePeach's blind libertarianism fails to consider questions of morality, simply because they don't matter.
And should I be driven only by money and not give any care to morals?
JunnyICurosi 1 year ago
@JunnyICurosi If you are the customer, your morals are your problem alone. Does the bank care if you spend your money on alcohol and beat your wife senseless?
Sex for money is in my opinion not morally wrong, and I wouldn't want laws to tell me what morals I should have. If I can't live with the thought of married men hurting their wives by paying me for sex, I simply don't become a prostitute. If I don't want to kill, I don't become a soldier, and so on.
FierceRodents 1 year ago
Legalizing prostitiution might even make it safer for the prostitutes.
In my country it is legal, and even the illegal working prostitues are safer here. It is easier to go to the police, i think.
FierceRodents 1 year ago
Uhm... Prostitution is legal in my country and we have not seen an increase in human slave trafficking into our country.
It is strictly checked wether they are brought in to be sexslaves or not. And as it is legal, this makes it alot more easy to regulate as we know where to look to check it up.
I donot see what the problem is. Legalizing makes it alot safer. It is gonna happen (as bas as I think that is). Better to make it as safe as possible. And that can only be through legalizing.
thedutchman01 1 year ago
If you are against prositution then where is the "money-limit" before it is not prostituion?
500 $, 100$, 10$ or maybe an apartment? An apartment is not cash directly but still property so I guess it's still prostitution
What about a t-shirt? or a drink in the bar? I heard from many that they have payed for girls' drinks friday night only thinking about getting a "1-nighter". Are they trying to buy a "cheeap" prostitut?
Some women only date/marry men with a lot of money. Are they prostituts?
Schmidts84 1 year ago
well said peach i don't have a problem with prostitution or anyone sleeping with them legally or what not it's their choice but for a guy like me i wouldn't sleep with a prostitute and i'll admit that and i made a video response to one of your videos about feminists i hope you enjoy it :)
herc213 1 year ago
Loved the "prostitution trilogy" ;) I'm convinced that prostitution should be legal.
ikutsu2001 1 year ago
Rotten Peach
yehyehyeh 1 year ago
@yehyehyeh
Truth.
mecher3k 1 year ago
@yehyehyeh I like the message behind this video, She is supporting individual freedom and denouncing government regulation of something that is an example of free market capitalism which we are taught to belive in, But then our goverment gives us a set of regulations on the market which is an example of facism NOT free market capitalism. capitalism + a goverment restricted market = facism. If you disagree with her why not make a counter argument instead of just typing "Rotten Peach"?
AvantTheGardner 1 year ago
xxxThePeachxxx I Applaud you, good lady. You've done a thoroughly good job in creating a fact based and logically sound argument. Sadly, there are going to be some that are perfectly comfortable in their own bullshit, and will not change their views no matter how many facts or how much logic you throw at them. Atheists, like myself, face a very similar problem. But I'm sure you've changed the minds of some otherwise logical people, or people who had never given the subject much or any thought.
SirPercivil 1 year ago
I can't believe that you think Arizona is the way to go, when it comes to prostitution. Even the clips from sanitized corporate videos you used in your video makes it look like something from Stepford Wives (The original film, not the remake :-) So is that really where you want this society to end up? Because that's the thing - we are all individuals, but at the same time we are also part of a society, so we have to think about how our actions and choices will effect the way society develops.
mickmle1 1 year ago
I love your videos and Channel ;)
8JMBDEQUEEN8 1 year ago
banning Pr0$titution will get hookers off of the street, Just like banning drugs got drugs off the street, And how gun control stopped violent crime....Oh..Wait...lol
AvantTheGardner 1 year ago
Now if your argument against Pr0$titution is that to have sex as a profession you must take on more partners thus causing more chance of disease, Then by that logic promiscuity should also be illegal,as well as anything that can increase health risks meaning you would have to ban nearly everything. money going from one hand to another does not increase the spred of S.T.Ds, The ONLY thing that CAN increase that is lack of condom use, so promote safe sex rather than promoting draconian laws.
AvantTheGardner 1 year ago
It's simple: Allowing work with the hands and prohibiting work with the genitals arises from a contrived and arbitrary distinction. The same is true for allowing people to rub others' necks for pay but prohibiting them from rubbing others' genitals for pay.
AND....the silly distinction is fundamentally based on some people's interpretation of messages that other people claim to have received from supernatural entities (gods).
GetMeThere1 1 year ago
So you were raised in a slum, so what, I didn't see flea bitten kids running around begging for change or food. I never have in an American slum. Kinda weird ain't it?
fyte4it 1 year ago
So Women are "PUSHED" into marriage?
fyte4it 1 year ago
I dunno. I think I'm still against prostitution. I just think making prostitution easier by making it legal encourages... encourages people to buy prostitutes. And I don't like the already sex-obsessed culture my country allows. The fact that prostitution goes on against the law so frequently demonstrates our lack of self control. If we're talking about something like booze or weed, it's different. Those kind of things aren't even close to being as taboo as prostitution.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain
Who the hell cares about "taboo"?
Society has a retarded taboo made by the prohibitionists of the 19th and 20th century?
Fuck them!
It is one of the world's oldest professions!
Hjernespreng 1 year ago
@Hjernespreng Do you know what taboo means? By definition it is something that people care about and are strongly opposed to. Not a few people, but the vast majority.
The values and norms of a society need to be taken into consideration when making laws or removing prohibitive laws. If a society is strongly opposed to prostitution, those who engage in it are social deviants, in this case out of lust. And I'm not going to support a change to "Okay" a lack of self control.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain Can you make an argument that isn't based on your subjective values why hiring a prostitute is bad/undesirable.
Where's the victim? I mean if it's voluntary/fully consensual by both parties, then where is the part that's so undesirable?
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 Well first of all, I wasn't trying to make an objective argument. When you're talking about making laws, it's ALL subjective and dependent on the consensus and/or the betterment of society. I just thought I'd present my opinion and the reasoning behind it rather than blindly agree with someone else--although I am often prone to as I think Peach is brilliant. Since when did a second opinion ever hurt anyone.
Did I say victim?
And what's undesirable about meth? :P
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain In order to make the case that prohibition of prostitution IS for the betterment of society you must point out the undesirability of it. I think it's kind of telling that you still haven't made that argument.
You didn't say victim but in order for something to be criminal it must have a victim. Also what I meant by that part with subjective values is that you need to make a better argument then "I don't like prostitution therefore it's bad" which you were basically making.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 I definitely didn't say "I don't like prostitution therefore it's bad." You can reread my previous comments.
And notice I said "consensus and/or the betterment." And furthermore, I'm not a lawyer, political scientist, or sociologist. I'm not trying to give a professional analysis. And I DID point out the undesirability of it.
I'll go back to drugs. Selling drugs is a crime, but it has no real "victim."
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain No you didn't say it but that was the implication of what you said.
Where exactly did you point out the undesirability?
Yeah I know selling drugs is illegal and is a victimless crime. That's my basis for opposing the prohibition of prostitution.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 "No you didn't ... said." That's not what I said at all, implicitly or directly...
If you want to see where I explained the undesirability, you could look at my comments..?
And I just thought I'd point out that crime does not imply a victim. And how is the parallel between drug crimes having no victims and prostitution having no victims make a basis to argue that prostitution should be legalized?
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain Well could you put it in the next comment towards me because I don't see it.
The point of making something a crime is because there is a victim.
Theft: the victim loses his/her property. Murder: The victim loses it's life. Etc.
If it's fine to make victimless crimes then there's no reason not to make buying groceries a crime, walking your dog or giving someone a high five.
If in prostitution there is no victim, then what is the basis for making it illegal?
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 Here. I thought I might look up the word crime for you so you could continue this discussion knowing what you're talking about or shut up.
Crime: "an action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited." from Dictionary*dot*com
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain Yeah that fits the definition that I was using pretty well. An action that results in people being harmed.
The question still remains, what is the criminal element of prostitution? What is it in the act of selling or buying sexual services that results in harm to anyone in the equation. NB I'm talking about consensual prostitution.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 "or morals or to the interests of the state" did you forget about that part? No one has to be "harmed" for something to damaged the "interests of the state" or MORALS. MORALS--kind of like what I was saying about laws being based on subjective views, right?
Like seriously, are you completely fucking blind to what I'm saying? You seriously don't seem to understand anything that contributes to a contradictory opinion. You need to check the motives of your reasoning....
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain Ok I must have misread that then. By that criteria anything could be made illegal.
But that also brings us to the point of this discussion. Why do you support the prohibition of prostitution?
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 "By that criteria anything could be made illegal."
That's a very poor interpretation. In fact it directly contradicts what the definition states. Before it's illegal it would have to be "deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state." But I'll give you props for effort. You're working really hard to distort logic to fit your opinion.
I don't exactly support its prohibition. It's already illegal. I just don't support it's legalization.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain
quit pulling hairs and answer thde question, why should it be illegal? It's my body and as long as I am not doing harm to others or myself, what right do you have to tell me I'm wrong!
Inovocre12 1 year ago
@Inovocre12 I don't know why it should be illegal. I'm not an expert, and I don't act like one. The fact is that it is illegal, and most people agree that it should be illegal. I don't know what kind of effects it could have on our economy because I'm not an economist. I don't know how it could possibly effect the well being of humans because I'm not a psychologist or biologist.
Beyond these factors, the choice of legal or not is determined by popular opinion which disagrees with it.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
@Loustrikesagain Again not true, when the law was passed it was a long time ago, when the "moral Majority" passed it! Because your United States is a prudish country! But times have changed, and I do believe that some forms of prostitution is legal, so why not make all of them! And when you talk to most Vice cops they will say to legalize prostitution and drugs!
Inovocre12 1 year ago
@Inovocre12 Umm... none of that made anything I said "not true." "some forms of prostitution [are] legal, so why not make all of them!" ---horse shit.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT SCIENTOLOFAGGOTRY? trollololololol hate hate hate. Xenu fag.
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
ZOMGitsCriss put me on.
danieldvs100 1 year ago
keep on kicking ass!!!!!! Much love too you and the rest of the gang.
teyacapan 1 year ago
"Best joke about prostitution was by Bernard Shaw. He told this woman that everyone would agree to do anything for money. `Well, I wouldn't,' she said. `Oh yes you would,' he said. `For instance,' he said, `would you sleep with me for a million pounds?' `Well,' she said, `Yes.' `Would you do it for one pound?' said Bernard Shaw. `Certainly not!' said the woman `What do you take me for? A prostitute?' `We've established that,' said Bernard Shaw. `We're just trying to fix your price now!' "
frogmancrack 1 year ago
God says don't be a whore!
SAUNDERSacts2618 1 year ago
fucking amazing video! these Pr0$titution videos are your best yet!! :D
SpizzTrizzOpinions 1 year ago
Great video! I completely agree with all your points! Prostitution being illegal just doesn't make sense.
Why is it that giving a woman $100 for sex is illegal, but spending $100 on dinner and a movie, and then having sex, is legal? WTF? Most women prostitute themselves, whether they want to call it that or not. Their price is just goods rather than cash. As far as I am concerned, the prostitutes are the ones who are being honest about the transaction.
TheSkepticCanuck 1 year ago
This really needs to be re-cut and released as a documentary on TV, exceptional
WelcometoVideoCity 1 year ago
Lol man I dont get it either. Marriage itself is essentially prostitution in that many women use sex to sway their husbands into doing something they want. We are all slaves to some extent, everyone just has a different price.
RB13240 1 year ago
Love your honesty and directness.
Keep up with the intellectual honesty and personal strength girl!
Glad you enrich the YouTube community with your voice.
GRFYouTubinIT 1 year ago
Rock?!? Mine is made out of STEEL, thank you very much. Thumbs down for exploitation and sex slavery!!
ChairmanNuke 1 year ago
Great points. You rock, Peach, glad you're back!
MadamMeshugana 1 year ago
Peach, I suppose the 'kernel of truth' in the anti's argument is that there is a lot of exploitation inside the illegal sex industry (=prostitiution): people who are indeed forced (by e.g. pimps) and who are there against their will and actually harming themselves.
But they get so defensive when they're asked how abolitionism is going to make this any better. If they would prove that criminalizing prostitution improves the situation, they'd have a point. But they don't. They just assume it will.
Asehpe 1 year ago
A very good point, Peach. It seems many people who criticize prostitution jump to the conclusion that those who defend decriminalization are simply OK with eeeverything about prostitution and should demonstrate it by engaging in it themselves. Riight. So if I'm in favor of the right of gays to serve in the military, I should demonstrate that by (a) becoming gay, and (b) entering the military... two things I really don't want to do.
What's so hard to understand about freedom?
Asehpe 1 year ago
I'm saddened by amhemsley is against prostitution and makes points like he does. I really liked him and thought he thought things through.
DblOSmith 1 year ago
@DblOSmith Well just because someone holds a position with which you don't agree doesn't mean you can't like them. Hell, most of my friends are fundies, and I'm an atheist!
ChocoboKillerKanyo 1 year ago
@ChocoboKillerKanyo That's definitely true. I didn't word that well. The coworker at work that I get along with the most is a Rush Limbaugh republican. *shiver* I still like Hemsley and he's a sexy, sexy man. "Disappointed" would have been a better word.
DblOSmith 1 year ago
Great video. Keep fighting the good fight.
ghuegel 1 year ago
@noliesundead Thank you for bringing my grammar fail to my attention. And that's humility. And you're an Adam Henry.
Murderouslycute 1 year ago
Implied face-palm
When something is so fucking stupid, that a face-palm isn't even necessary.
frembo1 1 year ago
@frembo1 No, that's when you double face palm.
AylinIsAwesome 1 year ago
Camel jocking was stopped , they now use robots instead.
DraskyVanderhoff 1 year ago
About the nevada system , it sound a lot better.
DraskyVanderhoff 1 year ago
EHM... SORRY?!?! WOMEN CONTROLS SEX??? what about Strippers party ? What about it?!
Sorry Peach but in that point you are acting as the same people that you criticise , there is no difference between man and women , some are willing to pay for sex and don't , thats all.
DraskyVanderhoff 1 year ago
Whooooooooooooooooooooooo cares?
dsturch 1 year ago
You are spot on. Oh, and very good looking.
benjamz64 1 year ago
I am actually starting to think it's a good thing that you now have to re-upload your videos. It gives me a good excuse to re-watch them without feeling like a total stalker :D
ZOMGitsCriss 1 year ago
@topherh33 Hey it is my favorite stupid! " or that you would want your child exposed to highly addictive drugs like crack or heroin." The o in "or" was not capital or separated by a semicolon. So you wrote in improper sentence hence forth it was still "attached" to your other sentence that was about prostitutes, so you inadvertently connected the two subjects. Damn stupid how does it feel like to get crushed by the Marine agian!? Marine 2, Stupid 0!
DeadMarine1980 1 year ago
HUMAN RIGHTS! I hope to live to see complete Rights for All Living Organisms. It is frustrating that people continue to say stupid shit based on their own standards. Not everyone thinks and feels the same way! It's ok to disagree, but to make people feel guilty about doing something to their own body is just fucked up. Causing physical harm to another living organism is wrong bc it takes away from their moment to enjoy life. But causing MENTAL HARM is just as fucked! STOP MIND FUCKING!
SuperArtorious 1 year ago
lol @ Hawking.
Daruqe 1 year ago
Great video, Peach! It's given me a lot to think about.
MMA 1 year ago
" If selling is legal - and fucking is legal - then why isn't selling fucking legal ? " ~ George Carlin
lucidkat 1 year ago
@DeistDreamer Why cant you have a position without resorting to hateful words?
Legal prostitution allows women to turn down any man she wants, and they do turn down men they dont want
You also ignore the sex worker unions, and sex workers that come from well to do families. Why do you have to be so emotionally out of control and how do you so easily dismiss the voices of the women who love their profession?
Even if they were really toys, if its by choice, why should you stop them?
waltermh111 1 year ago
It would be interesting to see just how many people that don't like (or maybe even hate) their jobs?? I'm willing to bet that it is in the majority. Isn't that whoring yourself out for money too?
titovalasques 1 year ago
I really don't care if people are prostitutes as long as they don't yell near my bedroom window anymore. Man they are so annoying. I have to say, I never saw any pimps though (very good news)
Tasya89 1 year ago
@Danelaw4UK If such people believe they have no choice, then taking away their only known choice only worsens the problem.
What I hate about that argument is its said that if you give them more choices they wont choose prostitution, but then whats the point of taking away prostitution as a choice?
If they wont choose it anyway, then whats the point?
But assuming nobody would choose it insults women, saying no woman can possibly enjoy sex, or if she does, she cant possibly enjoy for money
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 You're assuming a lot here.
What I'm saying is that, if you were to legalise prostitution, then ensuring that the people who enter the trade understand it isn't the only choice they have would be a good idea; at the very least it covers your own back.
I have much the same opinion of the armed services too - they should be giving people who opt to sign up a better idea of the inherent dangers and deprivations of Army/ Navy life, allowing them to make an informed choice.
Danelaw4UK 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice I dont get the point of rest of your post. Anecdotal evidence doesnt mean much. Its not good to base anything on, though its hard to get past personal experience
Still, as to feeling cheap, think how employees of most corporations fee
We are treated like trash and the middle management admits that we are disposable people, to be used and discarded
But its tough finding a good job
And how does competition with younger women turn to leaving a piece of soul with a client?
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 - You don't understand the anecdote to my point? Well, let me sum it up for you: the impression I got from that blog was that the business left you feeling cheap and empty. All over the world people have felt sex was valuable and sacred... and saying that it's ok to feel cheap because regular jobs make you feel cheap as well, doesn't support the cause.
As for the whole topic of prostitution, I think it's an advancement and step up for empowerment, just looking at the "pros/cons"
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice she discussed that in one of the videos, either part 3 or this one.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@Wolfau5 Yes, the law against living off of a prostitute is usually written shortsightedly.
You named the exact problems, and its simple to fix, but not likely to be soon because nearly any pro-prostitution law seems written begrudgingly and without much input allowed from the prostitution community.
They seem to get the least voice in these laws.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@Wolfau5 Amateur porn online is usually freely submitted or the uploader is given a sum of money by somebody with a license.
You do need a license to make money from porn, to host a legal site that sells porn.
If it has authentication and not simply a cash box, its likely legal.
I dont think most people that use the service of a prostitute do it enough to be worth the license, lol
As to paying the sex worker in gifts, that is an oft-used method in japan of circumventing the law.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@ScentedNectar thanks, you answered my other question with this response.
I figured anyway, but its definitely an improvement, and a step to ending stigmatisation. But its still only one area, so its seen more as a novelty which has its own stigma and doesnt really counter the overall one too well because most people dont live around this semi-legal area.
Too bad it never spread, even the Nevada model would do well to prove alot of points if it spread.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 I guess it's a step in the right direction, but I worry that it might stop the goal of full legalization, setting the unfair semi=legal rules as some sort of standard instead of just a step up.
No other businesses are restricted in these ways without good reason. It's the stigma that keeps it from being accepted as a small business people can set up for themselves. It's being kept in approved-brothel-monopoly run sin ghettos away from all the respectable people.
ScentedNectar 1 year ago
@ScentedNectar I thought Nevada was?
Or can you not procure sex from your home?
You have to do it from a brothel huh? I agree, thats not truly legal. Its very restrictive. Especially if you are restricted in more ways than that.
But antis then get an opening to point at sex trafficking that still happens right?
Though their stats of increases is such bull because reportings would increase due to more informents and bringing it all into the light due to legalisation.
waltermh111 1 year ago
@waltermh111 "You have to do it from a brothel huh?"
As far as I know. I need to read up more though. That means they control IF they hire you, your wage, hours, number of customers booked, etc.
"But antis then get an opening to point at sex trafficking"
The trafficking definition mixes in people who simply travel from another area to work there and other things too. Divinity33372 has some good ones on the definition, including her newest.
ScentedNectar 1 year ago
@topherh33 Wow dude nice generalization and and judging me for sleeping with hookers. Even if I did how would you know or should you care..Now the sex partners I am with I use protection because I'm smart unlike you....I can tell your stupid. I'm sorry you have poor judgement of character, but alas you will never understand because your to stupid. Oh btw it has been proven that when hooken is legal they are less likely to get on drugs....but again your to stupid to understand.
DeadMarine1980 1 year ago
@DeadMarine1980 when did i say hookers were on drugs? what an embacile maybe you should go back to school and learn to read. I sure hope your nickname doesnt mean you are a marine
topherh33 1 year ago
@DraconianDebate lol, cheap bastard
waltermh111 1 year ago
The stupidity of comments like some on this video shouldn't surprise me, but they never cease to. Pull your head out of your your either far right or far left out of your asses. Both wind up with different reasons to oppose the legalization of prostitution - the right with bs personal ideological, religious beliefs, and the left just being hypocritical regarding their supposed support for gender equality and women rights.
pumarunner88 1 year ago
@noliesundead people also go to school to learn correct grammar.
Murderouslycute 1 year ago
@Murderouslycute And this is the internet, where grammar go's to die.
You forgot to capitalize people btw.
noliesundead 1 year ago
I'm very poor, I was abused, I come for a single-parent home and I am a minority. Even at my lowest I never considered going into the sex trade. Why? Because I don't like sex that much. I'm not a pro, no pun intended. I'm happy to give it away for free. But to the pros out there, my hat is off to you.
Murderouslycute 1 year ago
Well I stopped watching after 15 minutes because, while agree with every word, it seems you've done nothing but repeat yourself.
kilroy1964 1 year ago
I've never sought the services of a sex worker.
I hope my daughters don't choose sex work as a career.
But I've known quite a few people over the years who DID choose sex as a way of making money.
And all of them CHOSE ir as a way of making more money than they might have been able to make otherwise.
Unfortunately, like pets and religion and abortion, this is one of those arguments that cannot be conducted rationally, because people's emotional responses are too deeply ingrained.
ROBwithaB 1 year ago
Great video series!
now, as a client of a prostitute I would say that you are paying for the person to leave your life after sex rather than paying for the actual sex...
oapeland 1 year ago
Brilliant educative and mind opening video!
arguss77 1 year ago
great video!
MsSmokeNmirrors 1 year ago
6:01-6:09 If you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs. I like how you go on to say that human trafficking a problem regardless of the law since it actually decreased in Sweden.
DahStranger 1 year ago
I cannot believe I never knew about these videos, thank you for re-uploading them!
OowlL 1 year ago
Great vid, by the way. Really professionally done.
Domzdream 1 year ago