I was really shocked to find Ben Stein jumping on the creationist dungwagon. Ben is very well informed, and in fact, had a TV show in which he competed one-on-one with contestants on a wide range of general knowledge questions and very rarely lost. I suspected he was intelligent, but then he produced the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed." I guess it just goes to show you that a great memory does not equate to an ability to think rationally.
Creationists are making it hard for those who do believe in God to sound credible, they do realize that the Bible they think is the word of God was written by Man? There are Some people who believe in God but not Noah's Flood but they are making it hard for the reasonable Christians or whatever. I still don't understand why Many religious people can accept Science but not these guys?
@Chica0616 apes and man share a common ancestor, thats why they both still exist. The English colonized America so why are there still English people? Your reasoning is poor at best.
I think some people are confusing the issue here. So far I haven't seen anything in the videos that say that Jesus was not real or that he wasn't the sun of god. Or that the new testament was written to match the prophecies in the old testament. The whole point of these videos is to show that creationists (not christians) have some pretty weird ideas that are not supported by fact. I am a proud christian but I certainly don't side with the creationists.
@athlavard You are absolutely right, and you know why? because god and evolution can co-exist. Accepting evolution doesn't diminish your belief in god and it shouldn't if that's what you believe. I'm an Atheist and I'm well aware that theists represent a % of professional scientists and guess what? They accept evolution too. People need to stop trying to disprove something that keeps gaining evidence in favor of it.
It's because so many of your fellow Christians see evolution as a "religion" that can't possibly be true along with their Bible. It's quite ridiculous.
I still cant head around so many creationists saying there are no transitional fosslis !! WTF! you see hundreads of them at any paleontology lab at any natural history museum or univesity- there a hundreads of pictures of them on the fuckin internet and still these idiot deluded creationists carry on saying "no there are no transitional fossils" whats wrong with these people!?
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. (Psalm 22:18)
That was written in advance too. That was a prophesy beyond the control of Jesus and His followers if you are thinking of a conspiracy. What are the chance that over 300 prophesy happening to a single person? Impossible. But Jesus Christ life and ministry did all that! How can you plan a specific birthplace to a specific lineage? A very specific kind of death which was not yet invented? Think about it
God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. (Acts 2:32)
This was declared by Peter in a crowd just a couple of weeks after Rome sentence Jesus to death. History was silent on this claim but instead Tacitus a famous Roman Historian wrote the event truly happened. So are we saying the enemy of Jesus and apostle are lying too? And then observed the reaction of the people, instead of an uproar against that claimed, 3000 were converted.
The following are written thousands of years before Jesus came into flesh...
Psalm 22:16 Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. I will just point out here that the above verse was written nearly 800 years before the invention of the extreme penalty called crucifixion.
Creation is indeed enough evidence that God exists - and it is not a threat, it is a fact that people who reject God to the very end have nowhere other than hell to go to.
@jbooks888 You mean, there are prophecies that were supposedly fulfilled. But what proof is there for any substantial prophecy actually being fulfilled? What we have is word of mouth, "eye-witness" accounts. These do not equate to fact.
I could write, today, that something will happen tomorrow. Then, tomorrow I write that the event occurred. Me writing down that the event happened is NOT substantial evidence for the event.
Besides, I asked for experiments and tests for verification.
This video is a lie from start to end. I hope people are looking into the facts brought up by this video and not just blindly accepting their buzzing sounds! And btw, could the turd narrator possibly sound any more smarmy?
every creationist ive ever talked to has been literally so fucking dumb that had they not gone to religious fundamentalist schools they would've been labeled "invalid" or "trainable"
I think there is a direct correlation between the level of over-inflated self-righteousness in pseudointellectual creatards and the number of posts they make in succession in response to noone inparticular. 4 or more borders on narcisstic personality disorder e.g the arseclown below.
That's right. Anything worth saying should be said within 500 characters... Tell that to everyone who has ever written a book... People who aren't retarded fill these boxes in about 20 seconds.
You've already Proven yourself to be an imbecile. Next you'll be saying, "look at these narcissists doing long division. Just use a calculator". Who needs intelligence when we can be told how to think and propagate it in less than 500 characters.
Even nursery rhyme is beyond your reading comprehension.
@knowwaie "Could you imagine any company advertising a product on the television, selling it to the public, then later saying 'sorry, our product doesn't really work'."
Sounds like the future of creationism, although the chances of creatards admitting they're wrong is nigh impossible when they suffer from NPD. The problem with people like you is you are too stupid to know what you don't know.
Fair enough. But accusing someone of the same doesn't negate your guilt. None of your accusation or attacks are threatening.
Am i narcissistic? Fine. The better man should be.. In fact i would argue anyone who perceives narcissism in another is due to their own weak character and lack of self worth. I may even go a step further and argue that true confidence has died out and given way to tender footed reactionary ignorant drones. You're offended because you're taught to be offended.
@knowwaie No. I'm offended by stupidity and wilful ignorance. I know how intelligent I am and I am intelligent enough to know the limits of my knowledge. You sir, do not.
Let me reiterate since the end of the video presents the infamous 'self correction' of propaganda.
It is the HYPE that is being addressed here. You hype the shit out of everything, then change you mind.. Then shut the fuck up until you know what you're talking about. This is the most ridiculous part. The amount of drones defending the ever shifting ground of a science that they admit changes more than the wind. What alterable "facts" do you have today?... Go fly a kite if you're bored.
Another thing, about the fossil 'fakes'. You can't deny this anymore. After all the hype over the fossil Ida, which is now thought to be insignificant, was the perfect example of what you do. Then at some point in the future, when a new generation arrives who weren't witnesses to the fossil, there will be another moron like yourself accusing them of lying about it. You psychopaths do this ever couple years. You repeatedly hype every find to recruit followers then recant to retain credibility.
Wonderful.. It's amazing how people are so retarded that they don't care that they've been hyped pretentiously..
Could you imagine any company advertising a product on the television, selling it to the public, then later saying 'sorry, our product doesn't really work'.
It's the fact that it was hyped to the public. If people weren't bat shit retarded these days they would be annoyed by this. Just learn the word 'pretentious', then pull your head out of your ass and invent a helmet.
I'd also like to point out that many of these supposed mistakes are because they are trying to meet you on common ground. When one of you is so desperately struggling to understand logical arguments and failing, we have no other choice but to dumb ourselves down for you and talk about animals...
No matter how mistaken these people may have been.. The depth of stupidity from atheists will always be unparalleled.
I want to see you respond to even something as simple as the 'moral argument'. Which is comparatively weak, but still confuses atheists for some reason. An atheist trying to understand philosophy is like watching a retard trying to lick his elbows. They just can't do it and end up looking ridiculous in the process. Logic is really hard isn't it? It takes genuine thought.
According to creationists, back in the days of yore there where supernatural events of large magnitude happening every day of the week. But as historical records became more widespread and accurate, this supernatural activity became less reported. Is there any data or evidence to supports the claims of creationists?
@MatthewBissonnette88 Quite, I have yet to meet a talking snake or see people raise from the dead (as happens many time in the Bible). God was also pretty petty and vengeful, particularly in the old testament, so if he do exist he has clearly taken anger management courses for not smiting the whole unholy lot of us on a whim.
@dec4dence 38,000 sects - "Christianity Today – General Statistics and Facts of Christianity Today" Be serious, there are FAR more than 38,000 church buildings.
"I believe what the Bible teaches, and nothing else" So you do uphold the Old Testament, then? Seeing as how Jesus did not come into the world to abolish the law, but to fulfill it? (Mathew 5: 17)
Reading the bible is what pushed me on the path to atheism. It's a horrible book. It holds a grain of morality and a ton of cruelty.
@StrikaAmaru A Christian who does not read and testify to the truths of the Old Testament is an unfounded or misguided Christian at best. "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16. The OT is essential to the Christian faith. I don't know what "Christianity Today" is, and I don't really care. Tell me, what authority do you have to discern morality? You are just dust; worthless and uncreated.
Morality is internal. Those of you that are ignorant creatards are so simple-minded that you act like 5 year olds, who need their mommy and daddy to tell them the difference between right and wrong. Religion is horribly immoral. It is full of the ramblings of ignorant, bloodthirsty savages. We've come a long way since then.
would i kill someone for not worshiping me? no. would i burn them for eternity for being a homosexual? no. that makes me morally superior to god. and probably you. i'd rather contribute NOTHING to society than bring it back 200 years.
@TAXEXEMPTION Everyone likes to point out how unjust and wrathful God was in the Old Testament. You are missing a big piece of the puzzle. He came as a man, and died so we don't have to experience his wrath. All we have to do is believe he did it. His mercy and grace is unparalleled, yet you chose to throw it aside and attempt to put him in a little box. You have never heard the Gospel if you don't know what Jesus did.
@dec4dence *You have never heard the Gospel if you don't know what Jesus did. * who wrote the gospel? Were you there when it was written? Is all things written hard evidence of something happening? If you would ask your self these questions when you read the bible you would come to the same conclusion as me... Religion is a myth!
so this is going to turn into a 'nou' battle? am i to say 'show me evidence that he DOES exist'? here's an idea, if you want to prove ME wrong about people like you, address EVERYTHING i say and not just cherry pick my replies.
'okay buddy. since i can speak perfect english, i'll remind you of a 'fraudulent accusation' that you creationist fuckwits are very fond of saying:
one more thing, want to know WHY i'm an atheist? it's mostly because of how morally disgusting your god is. if you hold any of the views that it does, you're beyond nothingness.
@TAXEXEMPTION Really? You want to talk about morals? Let's talk about morals. By your comment it's evident you believe you have greater morals than God. If that is so, I have absolutely no desire to hold a dialogue with you. I've met many people who held those views, and they are all absolute assholes. A person like that brings nothing of any worth to society. They are bitchy leeches. You believe there are morals. Where did morality come from? We are all animals, and evolution is totally random.
@dec4dence evolution is not totally random. Because you think this, it shows you truly have very little understanding of the theory of evolution, so don't claim it's false if you don't understand it. Morals come from evolving as social animals. The "if we're just animals, where did our morals come from" is not a good argument. You may as well say leopards are not animals because they have spots, and other animals don't.
@dec4dence "See you on judgment day." aka, never. Color me unimpressed.
"All we have to do is believe" and then it doesn't matter what we've done WE ARE SAAAAAVED!!!! What a disgusting, repulsive and utterly immoral way to think. For all your asking atheists where do they get their morals, I might as well ask you where do you get yours, because you obviously don't get it from religion. Your religion, or rather, the demented sect you're part of, doesn't care about you deeds, merely about belief.
@StrikaAmaru "So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." - James 2:17. You obviously have no concept of Christianity, or the twisted one you maintain is too far gone to even be called Christianity. I find it entertaining that people like you attempt to debunk Christianity when you haven't the slightest idea what it is.
@dec4dence There are 38,000 sects of Christianity out there. The main trends, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, do indeed maintain that faith without deeds is dead. Orthodoxy even claims that good, virtuous pagans will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but will be blind, because they are not baptized.
HOWEVER, in my year and a half since I'm lurking on YT, I've noticed that most ardent Christians are NOT part of these main, moderate trends. No, what I usually run into are foaming-at-the-mouth fundies (cont)
@StrikaAmaru I would love to know where you got 38000 sects of Christianity. 38000 church buildings maybe, but different sects? I don't accept that number. Regardless, I hold to no denomination. You see, unlike many hypocritical Christians out there, I believe what the Bible teaches, and nothing else. I apologize for the true Church (Body of Christ) if these false teachers have skewed your vision of us. I believe Jesus is the son of God, and he died as our substitute. He paid our debt to God.
@StrikaAmaru Furthermore, Jesus warned about false teachers. A false teacher, meaning anyone who proclaims a gospel different than the one Jesus preached; Jesus is the son of God, and died to pay the debt mankind incurred against God by breaking his law in sin, so that all who believe might be saved. All the stuff that catholics and jehova witnesses and what not add is man-made garbage. "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." Matthew 7:15
@dec4dence At its core Christianity is an evil and dangerous death cult glorifying the destruction of the planet and longing for this life to end so followers can visit a god in a paradise. It’s insanity.
@max2right I've never heard that one before. Where are you from? Waco, Texas? I suggest you go hang out with some Christians, and maybe listen to a few sermons that establish Christian values and doctrines before you make such a generalization. Are there hypocritical Christians? Absolutely. Are they all that way? No. Insanity is claiming the complexity of the universe developed came with time. Ever heard of Entropy? 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says time breaks things. It doesn't build them.
@dec4dence Well you haven’t been paying attention or have glossed over the fact that your salvation depends on a barbaric and immoral human sacrifice and an apocalypse to announce that dead guy’s return. It’s in your book. Calling it insanity is the kindest thing I can say If you are going to invoke the 2nd law you should also know understand and apply the other two. Do you compare your training and knowledge to that of scientists working in the field?
@max2right I left out the other two because I didn't want to shut you down too badly. Get off your high horse, and get a different world view. My salvation does not depend on any such barbaric act. Define barbaric, and explain to my by what authority you define what is moral in the world. You are just a little pile of dust who doesn't believe in God. By the atheist's view, you and your opinions are worthless. Everything is pointless, and so is your comment.
@dec4dence If a follower of any of the three Abrahamic death cults had clear evidence that gods exist they would cram it down our throats in every media everywhere. There would be little discussion or doubt. As it is there is no such evidence a great deal of discussion and a persistent doubt that has led to the decrease of religious belief around the world. Actions speak. We see christians muslims & jews killing each other and their children over which version of the same god is correct.
@dec4dence Please don't try to pass of some simple minded misunderstanding of thermodynamics in a failed attempt to support your religious myths. If you want to believe in God, fine, but Creationists who misrepresent science are doing a disservice to everyone. The second law of thermodynamics states an increase in disorder IN A CLOSED SYSTEM. Earth is NOT a closed system. Energy from the sun is constantly providing additional energy. Why won't creationists learn this?
@coolgreyoneabby Last time I checked, the sun is detrimental to the structure of all things. It is necessary for life, yes. It also destroys. Do not attempt to throw me under the bus. Your argument can not stand. It has been chewed up and spit out every time someone brings it up. The sun's energy is not a sufficient ingredient to create life. You still need material, information, and work. You think long periods of time explains where these others come from? I don't buy it.
@dec4dence Did you sleep through every science class? The Sun is NOT detrimental to the structure of all thinks. How do you think plants work? Please go to Wikipedia and type in "Photosynthesis" and READ IT. While you are there, look up "Geologic Time" "Evolution" and "Intelligent Design". You should at least look these things up before posting to avoid embarrassment.
@coolgreyoneabby Of "all thinks." Obviously, photosynthesis doesn't function without sunlight. Do you honestly believe I didn't know that? Nice attempt at sidestepping all else I said. That's what your kind does. They attack the person destroying their arguments. Get a new perspective. You beleaguer my mind with this nonsense.
@dec4dence Your dogmatic religious views have polluted your ability to evaluate information. "the sun is detrimental to the structure of all things." was shown to be wrong. Your misunderstanding of the 2nd law of thermodynamics was shown to be wrong. You have made claims of what science says that are wrong. Your understanding of deep time is wrong and I have shown where to verify that you are wrong on all counts. Hardly sidestepping any issues.
@coolgreyoneabby What ever is "deep time"? I think you've had too many deep times up in San Francisco. Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time than to make these ridiculous claims? Oh, I suppose that since you say I am wrong on all accounts that MUST be the truth of it. Get real. What do you think about the fact that almost every avenue of science was pioneered by God fearing men? We have a battle between two world views; two religions, and our science is based off those views.
@dec4dence Deep time is a term referring to the earth being over 4 billion years old as opposed to the incorrect belief by Creationists that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. I did not say that there is no God, I claim that you misunderstand basic scientific concepts and your misstatements of evidence are actually hurting your case more than helping. Stick with religion, you can't be proved wrong so easily. When you tread into science, the rigor is higher than you can withstand.
@dec4dence Since the vast majority of men were theists one and two centuries ago, then scientists of those times would probably be theists too, but that is irrelevant to conducting honest inquiry on how the cosmos works. "Our" science? I don't know what that means. Honest inquiry is not conservative liberal, theistic or non theistic, it is honest inquiry about the reality of nature. If you are not conducting honest inquiry, then you are not doing science. Creationists don't do real science.
@dec4dence "The OT is essential to the Christian faith. I don't know what "Christianity Today" is, and I don't really care. Tell me, what authority do you have to discern morality?"
"Christianity today" is the sum of all 38,000 sects; this was obvious from the context.
The authority for morality is the same as you: your own mind, some evolutionarily hardwired behavioral patterns in your brain, and social pressure. The only difference between you and me is that I actually admit to that.
@dec4dence Here is your basic problem. you are trying to make theistic claims and back them up with science that you do not understand, and it is backfiring on you. I suggest that you keep to theistic claims and leave science to people with an education in science. You only do your side harm by trying to bring in concepts that you do not understand and misapplying them. If you want to believe in God, fine, but misapplying science does not help you and only reveals your lack of education.
@coolgreyoneabby You know nothing of me or my education. You want the opinion of a scientist? Albert Einstein (do you know who that is?) once said, "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God. "
@dec4dence My comments have nothing to do with the existence of God or not. I don't care about your religious views, it's about the misapplication of science. When you misapply the 2nd law of thermodynamics, then misapply entropy then misapply the energy from the sun, you hurt your own case. So, yes I do know about your education in science or lack thereof. You make it painfully obvious. Again, stick to religion and not science claims that you do not understand
@coolgreyoneabby I suggest you do not judge another person's intellect or what have you when you cannot create a grammatically sound sentence. If your comments have nothing to do with God and evolution, there seems to be little reason for you to write anything at all. Please tell me you have something better to be doing than picking apart my commentary.
@dec4dence " I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws." Albert Einstein. Einstein did not believe in a personal God. He was NOT a theist, He spoke of "God" as synonymous with "nature".
@coolgreyoneabby How do you have any idea of what he was or wasn't? You think "googleing" a random quote (the credibility of which is questionable at best) makes you an Einstein expert? Have you read a biography? I never said he was a Christian. He did, however, believe in God. You, I conclude, believe in God. This is a good start. I challenge you to take another step and read the Bible. Question it entirely, but do not discount it until you understand both sides of each issue.
@dec4dence Yes, I have read Einstein's biography and he did not believe in a personal God. My issue with your comments is not your religious beliefs, it is your misapplication of science. Had you not misapplied the 2nd law of thermodynamics, entropy, and the suns energy output to support your religion, you would never have heard from me. I studied science in college and the way Creationists bastardize science is ignorant at best and dishonest at worst. I don't mind calling them on it.
@coolgreyoneabby So, you have no more education than I. You speak really big and bold, but have nothing to back it with. The only ignorance I see here is your outlook on science. Actually, I think it goes beyond that. I think it's your outlook on the Church. Whatever resentment you have towards God is misguided.
@dec4dence BS again! It is painfully obvious that you have no formal science education for the reasons I outlines several times, Second, I have not shown any resentment toward any God. My resentment is targeted only at creationists people who are willfully ignorant of science and try to spread ignorance to others. It is people like you who drive people like me to keep religious nonsense out of science class.
@dec4dence So which part of: "you consistently misrepresent science and therefore do your own side harm. You should stick to religion and stay away from science that you do not understand " that you have such a hard time grasping? That is not an attack on your religion. It is about how you try to support your religious views with complete ignorance of real science. Those of us who did study physics, read what you write and laugh or just shake our heads in disbelief.
@coolgreyoneabby You show your illogical nature in your sentence structure once more. You said, "BS again!" What is bs? What are you talking about? You are not a scientist because you studied physics in high school as I am not a scientist. Do not assume you are some authority, and everything you say is a golden truth. You are just a harebrained man who's in denial. I hope one day soon you will understand your relationship to God.
@dec4dence And do not assume that you have authority or truth either, especially as you are in a much weaker position as you are arguing fallacies and from ignorance; even someone who studied science at a school level an see that you are severely misinformed and can support their argument with a host of scientific knowledge ad evidence.
@dec4dence Einstein who said "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
@gamesbok That is an awesome quote. You know, if you read the Bible you will find that the god that this quote portrays, "whose purposes are modeled after our own," is not in there. The worst thing about "Christians" today is the false image they attribute to God.
@dec4dence It's there. 'Mein Weltbild. Wie ich die Welt sehe (Gebundene Ausgabe) 1934.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
@dec4dence Since I know you won't look this up yourself: "The rate of energy capture by photosynthesis is immense, approximately 100 terawatts,[3] which is about six times larger than the power consumption of human civilization.[4] As well as energy, photosynthesis is also the source of the carbon in all the organic compounds within organisms' bodies. In all, photosynthetic organisms convert around 100–115 petagrams of carbon into biomass per year.[5][6]"
@dec4dence You have your science concepts all confused (big surprise) No one claims that the sun is the only energy that CREATED life, but it is the primary source of energy for most life on earth to flourish, move, reproduce, evolve and create more life. Where were you in science class? I learned this stuff in 6th grade.
@TAXEXEMPTION Hey smart guy, I never said any of those things, but I don't doubt them. I'm sure both were decent fellows. More decent than you by a long shot. You said you could go on. Please do. Is that really your best argument? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Please, show me evidence that God does not exist.
Thank you so very very much for all your posts Potholder...and thank you so very very much for stating with articulation and straight forwardnes and humor/seriousnies the flaws and ridiculousness of the creationists arguements.I do accept that these people are more than likely on the far end of the creationist end ..however recently a mega church group set up shop in a closed elementary school in this rural area of Oregon.People i used to talk rationally with have changed and it scares me a bit
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. - Romans 1:20
@dec4dence DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) is a self replicating molecule - it can create itself. Each time it replicates it can make mistakes which result in it containing different genetic information than before, aka something new. This is new information 'creating itself'. It happens all the time and is well understood.
@FactThis Obviously, it isn't well understood because you don't know what you are talking about. Something cannot come from nothing. If you cannot grasp that, there is little hope of you understanding genetics. May God help you.
@FactThis You are as dense as concrete. If God didn't create DNA, then no one did. Right? If no one created it, it came from nothing. If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?
@dec4dence "If no one created it, it came from nothing". That is the most retarded piece of reasoning I've ever heard. Something arising naturally doesn't necessarily equate to 'coming from nothing'. The elements that make DNA molecules are commonplace on this planet.
"If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?" No, why would I? Evolution doesn't make everything perfect, and if you think it's supposed to then you definitely have some reading to do.
@dec4dence "If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?"
What a ridiculous thing to say. I don't know about you, but my brain is evolved to the point that I can analyze, understand, and accept scientific evidence/consensus.
@FactThis Wow, are you fresh off the boat or what? The question is this. Where did the genes come from? We are not talking about mutations, which by the way, don't exist. We are talking about genes. Where did they come from? Who wrote DNA? Did you?
"I have a British accent, therefore I am smart." We'll see who's right when the dust settles, and all are before the judge with no appeal on the docket. We all die. Where we go is the question.
@pat5168 It's a sorrowful existence if there's no hope of something after this life. If I had no promise of something else, I think I'd lose my little mind and correct people on youtube.
@dec4dence It's a sorrowful existence if you live this life the whole time hoping for a better one. Stop worrying about it and be appreciative and grateful for what you have. You have the mind of a suicidal person if you believe that this life has no point if it's the only one we have.
"Immortals would envy us, we will never be as capable as we are now, knowing that every second of our time spent here is limited makes it even more beautiful than believing we have eternity to enjoy it."
@pat5168 Are you then grateful for what you have? Who are you grateful to? Talk to me when death is at your door, and you've emptied your boots of piss.
@dec4dence I'm grateful I live on this one planet among millions of galaxies and it has flourishing life. I don't need a person to be grateful to. But that does not make it any less appreciated. Why do you think I'm wearing boots with piss? Sounds more like Jesus walking on water. Death smiles at us all, the least we can do is smile back.
@dec4dence my advise:Go get a life! You wont need god anymore... why are you watch these video's anyway? got a little doubt in your so called faith? Or do you not even watch them? You are just here trying to convert atheist? Well you can't convert atheist because they know the facts! with evidence! Your only evidence of your claims is a book! Written by many people in different time periods! Those people also thought for example : that the earth was flat and so on.. And you believe that book?lol
@TheSjaan105 Do you speak enrgish? You just made the most fraudulent accusations ever. Typical atheist talking like they know what they are talking about. Ever read the Bible? I'd beat your ass if you talked to me like that in person.
@dec4dence Sure you do.... If you want to believe the bible... Well fine by me! But don't say its fact! The differents between you and me is that you believe the bible blindly and i believe facts! have a good day
@TheSjaan105 I'm not ignorant enough to believe anything blindly, which is why I don't believe in evolution. None of that crap they tried to shove down our throats about Darwin in high school stuck, so I sought something more substantial. All you evolutionist/agnostics are the same. You make these huge assumptions, then declare the argument over. Who said it was over? It hasn't even begun. Tell me where matter came from. If there was a big bang, what blew up?
@dec4dence Evolution has nothing to do with how the universe started! Evolution explains the diversity of life! So not the origin of life! Evolution is proven many times if you took the effort to look it up you understand that! The bible is just a stupid and really outdated way to explain the universe! ''I'm not ignorant enough to believe anything blindly,'' you blindly believe the bible! There is no evidence what so ever that the bible is fact! if you want to argue with me fine.....
@dec4dence but first watch these video's in this channel : WhyEvolutionIsTrue
There is tons of evidence why evolution is true! When you did that come back and argue! I'm not gonna argue with some one that knows nothing about evolution and the universe... Ah yes btw there is enough science that explains the universe pretty good and yes we don't know everything YET! but you can't say ah we don't know something so god did it
Luckily, we don't HAVE to believe this sort of thing blindly. The masses of evidence that have been gathered so far certainly help us along. It isn't assumption, it's observation and experimentation.
HAHAHAHHAHHA CREATIONISTS ARE RETARDS AND THEIR BIGGEST ADVOCATES ARE KIDS WHO GREW UP ATTENDING THE CHRISTIAN EQUIVALENT TO ISLAMIC MADRASSAS, USUALLY PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALIST SCHOOLS AFFILIATED WITH A CHURCH IN SOME PO-DUNK CRACKER TOWN. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH A CREATIONIST AND SEE HOW DUMB THEY ARE, LOOK UP ANDY MICHAEL WAGONER ON FACEBOOK
Apes are comfortable in how they walk just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
@Mogley52 And those that had said muscles out of place would have been eaten and never reproduced. Those that did have the muscle correctly placed would survive to reproduce and pass on their "not fail muscle positioning". Your point is? As for no hard evidence: Evolution has more supporting it than gravity yet you're probably not too up in arms against that are you?
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible in nature (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). Species couldn't have survived while their vital tissues, organs, biological systems were still evolving. Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can give that supports the idea of evolution, if one was to really look inside of evolution they should find that it is pure idiocy and just plain stupid. If evolution has ever existed then why does evolution not occur within monkeys, human beings now. Evolution is just another fallible reason to discredit God. God makes much more sense than Darwin's weak theory or guess.
« There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can give that supports the idea of evolution »
Well, except for the matching nested hierarchies in zoology and comparative genomics; the distribution patterns of similarities and differences in ERV's; human chromosome #2; the progressions of diverging traits in palaeontology matching the aforementioned nested hierarchies; and so on, and so forth.
So, you've a list of questions about biology, but you can't be bothered to acquaint yourself with the subject to the point where you understand at least some of its terminology?
Ah, but since you like magic better than science, perhaps you *should* expect to see entirely new morphologies to emerge overnight. After all, creation does not have to hold to any natural boundaries or limitations, now does it?
@chica0616 First of all, "theory" doesn't mean "guess". Theories have evidence to back them up. Second, evolution is still happening. For example, the most recent generation's people have longer thumbs than previous generations. People are also much taller than they used to be, and we're growing to be more intelligent. Also, whales live in water now, but their skeleton shows evidence that they used to walk on land. There is a lot of evidence. You obviously haven't done your research.
@keilareadman Theories are ideas intended to explain something, notice that truth is nowhere in this definition. Athesist's reasoning are so limited that their conclusion could never be 100%. And as for human beings growing more intelligent, that is to be expected. As for whales walking on land the verdict is still out on that one because obviously you cannot believe what everyone considers to be evidence. There was also evidence of Apes evolving into man, but apes still exist why?
@chica0616 We are still apes. If you even bring that up you have no understanding of evolution. If you take a seed from a tree and plant it, why is there still the first tree ? The analogy is actually just to show you to what extent you don't understand evolution.
@chica0616 We are apes, Orangutans, Gorillas, and Chimpanzee's are our cousins all from a common ancestor. Do you know what phylogeny and taxonomy is? You talk as if you have discovered something so obvious in this flaw that is evolution that you can say it candidly in a comments section of a youtube video? Wow, you must know a lot about science and how every branch of science there in is wrong on this topic...please enlighten us professor....tell us how you will win the Nobel prize.
@chica0616 Nothing is 100%...Science never claims that it is 100%. It never has, that's what saves itself from bias opinions..ideas are tested over and over and over again and if they fail they are never THEORIES of science. A scientific theory is what we have in place to explain a system or ideas....please enlighten us to a system in modern society that is better than science when it comes to learning what is true and what is false?
@chica0616 Human's didn't necessarily evolve from apes. They share a common ancestor, such as wolves and dogs, cats and lions. Humans are growing more intelligent, and the amount of people who believe in God is decreasing as a result. People these days are too intelligent to believe in it anymore and I'm seeing the result in kids who are still in school. Most kids who are intelligent are atheists because they aren't dumb enough to succumb to brainwashing of parents and churches.
@chica0616 equating evolution theory to atheism is an automatically fail, and reveal much ignorance on your part. Maybe you should lay off the old school R&B and pay more attention to science.
Maybe we should believe in God on the basis of the cosmological argument or the ontological argument or the moral argument. Maybe our belief in God isn't based on arguments at all but is grounded in religious experience or in divine revelation. Maybe God wants us to believe in Him simply by faith. The point is that rejecting design arguments for God's existence does nothing to prove that God does not exist or even that belief in God is unjustified. Why doesn't POT HOLE HEAD argue Craigs words?
Making the case for your opponent is another logical fallacy that doesn't abide well with your client, in this case yours is a fool. that's what happens when you represent yourself and appealing to your opponents arguments.
Creationist junk is debunked and creationist myths are debunked that just leaves the good creationism. This fucking retarded chieftain of the retards can't even title a video using logic. She's striving so hard to project her prejudice it comes across as lunacy opposing her own position. Creationism debunked is what she's hoping to establish, but if she can't even write that, she FAILS! What a nimkimpoop.
Are you dorks really trying to establish the Theory of Evolution or are you merely trying to prove that you have purpose in life by arguing that it disspells the universe wasn't created in 6 days? Either way Christians just adjust their reading of Scripure to accomodate science. Don't you make allowances for new science? You don't believe that light and gamma rays travel through space at the same speed anymore do you? You're not still clinging to that old sacred cow, hmm?
Surplusage. Opinion. Asked and answered. Conjecture, Assumption. Motives implied but never addressed for obvious reasons.
I know a YEC, and what I don't do is try and explain why what he believes is horse toast, why would I? That's the exact same as walking up to a cripple in a wheel chair and yelling in his/her ear, "YOU'RE A CRIPPLE". YEC's accept the inerrancy of scripture, no matter how many videos you geniuses make that will never change either of your faiths.
Problem with your post is that you seem to be mistaking evolution as some sort of "faith". It isn't of course. Not sure if that was indeed the point you were trying to make or maybe I read that wrong.
@gregonamus Biology doesn't take sides against creationism any more than an airplane has faith that a bicycle is a superior form of transportation. If you can't even understand what is a belief, like naturalism and what is science, the objective collection of data, then of course a person like me couldn't possibly make one bit of sense to a person like that. All this worthless piece of shit is doing is arguing that the universe wasn't made in 6 days. Hey, thanks Einstein, got the memo. Imbecile
I was really shocked to find Ben Stein jumping on the creationist dungwagon. Ben is very well informed, and in fact, had a TV show in which he competed one-on-one with contestants on a wide range of general knowledge questions and very rarely lost. I suspected he was intelligent, but then he produced the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed." I guess it just goes to show you that a great memory does not equate to an ability to think rationally.
carmium 6 days ago
@carmium more like an example of how religion can pollute great minds..
Casshyr 5 days ago
Creationists are making it hard for those who do believe in God to sound credible, they do realize that the Bible they think is the word of God was written by Man? There are Some people who believe in God but not Noah's Flood but they are making it hard for the reasonable Christians or whatever. I still don't understand why Many religious people can accept Science but not these guys?
BorikeTheBlackDragon 1 week ago
@Chica0616 apes and man share a common ancestor, thats why they both still exist. The English colonized America so why are there still English people? Your reasoning is poor at best.
paramattic70 2 weeks ago 2
I think some people are confusing the issue here. So far I haven't seen anything in the videos that say that Jesus was not real or that he wasn't the sun of god. Or that the new testament was written to match the prophecies in the old testament. The whole point of these videos is to show that creationists (not christians) have some pretty weird ideas that are not supported by fact. I am a proud christian but I certainly don't side with the creationists.
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@athlavard You are absolutely right, and you know why? because god and evolution can co-exist. Accepting evolution doesn't diminish your belief in god and it shouldn't if that's what you believe. I'm an Atheist and I'm well aware that theists represent a % of professional scientists and guess what? They accept evolution too. People need to stop trying to disprove something that keeps gaining evidence in favor of it.
Antimidation 3 weeks ago 4
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It's because so many of your fellow Christians see evolution as a "religion" that can't possibly be true along with their Bible. It's quite ridiculous.
Beandude202 2 weeks ago
I still cant head around so many creationists saying there are no transitional fosslis !! WTF! you see hundreads of them at any paleontology lab at any natural history museum or univesity- there a hundreads of pictures of them on the fuckin internet and still these idiot deluded creationists carry on saying "no there are no transitional fossils" whats wrong with these people!?
dancingnancy09 3 weeks ago
The futurama episode 'a clockwork origin' has a great joke on missing links from ancestor apes to Homo sapiens.
BloodSinVIII 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. (Psalm 22:18)
That was written in advance too. That was a prophesy beyond the control of Jesus and His followers if you are thinking of a conspiracy. What are the chance that over 300 prophesy happening to a single person? Impossible. But Jesus Christ life and ministry did all that! How can you plan a specific birthplace to a specific lineage? A very specific kind of death which was not yet invented? Think about it
ferrymitz 1 month ago
@ferrymitz The New Testament was written in a way that in corresponded with the prophecies from the Old Testament.
Ninvus2 3 weeks ago
God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. (Acts 2:32)
This was declared by Peter in a crowd just a couple of weeks after Rome sentence Jesus to death. History was silent on this claim but instead Tacitus a famous Roman Historian wrote the event truly happened. So are we saying the enemy of Jesus and apostle are lying too? And then observed the reaction of the people, instead of an uproar against that claimed, 3000 were converted.
ferrymitz 1 month ago
The following are written thousands of years before Jesus came into flesh...
Psalm 22:16 Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. I will just point out here that the above verse was written nearly 800 years before the invention of the extreme penalty called crucifixion.
ferrymitz 1 month ago
Creation is indeed enough evidence that God exists - and it is not a threat, it is a fact that people who reject God to the very end have nowhere other than hell to go to.
jbooks888 1 month ago
@jbooks888 Oh really, a fact, eh?
What tests have been conducted to show evidence that hell exists?
And what experiments have been done to show the reality of a god?
TheGlassDot 1 month ago
@TheGlassDot For starters, there's hundreds of prophecies that have been fulfilled, proving that God inspired the writings of them.
jbooks888 1 month ago
@jbooks888 You mean, there are prophecies that were supposedly fulfilled. But what proof is there for any substantial prophecy actually being fulfilled? What we have is word of mouth, "eye-witness" accounts. These do not equate to fact.
I could write, today, that something will happen tomorrow. Then, tomorrow I write that the event occurred. Me writing down that the event happened is NOT substantial evidence for the event.
Besides, I asked for experiments and tests for verification.
TheGlassDot 1 month ago
@TheGlassDot Go fuck yourself
jbooks888 1 month ago
@jbooks888 Alright, I said I wouldn't respond, but I just had to thank you for the laugh. hahaha
TheGlassDot 1 month ago
This video is a lie from start to end. I hope people are looking into the facts brought up by this video and not just blindly accepting their buzzing sounds! And btw, could the turd narrator possibly sound any more smarmy?
jbooks888 1 month ago
@jbooks888 Convenient that I miss this little gem from you...
You won't see further replies from me. I'm not about to waste any more time on someone who opens their argument with ad hominem attacks.
It's a nice Christian attitude you've got going there; keep it up.
TheGlassDot 1 month ago
@TheGlassDot Lowlife cunt
jbooks888 1 month ago
"Creationist junk" LOL I love the title
Casshyr 1 month ago
Very good video
kamath234 1 month ago
just caught on to potholer.this guy is very good at exposing self deceiving non rationalists. brilliant stuff.
kram83au 2 months ago
I think God's going to break the Bullshit button from all this Creationist nonsense
Tarynus 2 months ago
kent hovind teached highschool science yet would not pass a 2nd grade science test
wearestarstuffsagan 2 months ago
"kent hovind teached highschool"
The word you're looking for is 'taught'. Learn the English language before criticizing anyone.
knowwaie 2 months ago
@knowwaie if i had down syndrome i would still be in the position to critcize hovind and this is youtube fucking grammar police
wearestarstuffsagan 2 months ago
@knowwaie U mad?
Zachdudeio2 1 month ago
@Zachdudeio2 I'm furious.
knowwaie 1 month ago
@knowwaie Oh is that how you 'defeat' someone in debate? You lowlife cunt.
jbooks888 1 month ago
@jbooks888 And he's on your side! Gain, you lowlife cunt.
jbooks888 1 month ago
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knowwaie 1 month ago
@jbooks888 I never lose.
knowwaie 1 month ago
every creationist ive ever talked to has been literally so fucking dumb that had they not gone to religious fundamentalist schools they would've been labeled "invalid" or "trainable"
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No way, Venomfangx has heard WAY stupider things. He watches Kent Hovind Seminars.
Pickle900 2 months ago in playlist More videos from Potholer54debunks
I love the opening to this!
PatRibsey 2 months ago
I think there is a direct correlation between the level of over-inflated self-righteousness in pseudointellectual creatards and the number of posts they make in succession in response to noone inparticular. 4 or more borders on narcisstic personality disorder e.g the arseclown below.
uknowispeaksense 2 months ago
That's right. Anything worth saying should be said within 500 characters... Tell that to everyone who has ever written a book... People who aren't retarded fill these boxes in about 20 seconds.
You've already Proven yourself to be an imbecile. Next you'll be saying, "look at these narcissists doing long division. Just use a calculator". Who needs intelligence when we can be told how to think and propagate it in less than 500 characters.
Even nursery rhyme is beyond your reading comprehension.
knowwaie 2 months ago
@knowwaie "Could you imagine any company advertising a product on the television, selling it to the public, then later saying 'sorry, our product doesn't really work'."
Sounds like the future of creationism, although the chances of creatards admitting they're wrong is nigh impossible when they suffer from NPD. The problem with people like you is you are too stupid to know what you don't know.
uknowispeaksense 2 months ago
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knowwaie 2 months ago
Fair enough. But accusing someone of the same doesn't negate your guilt. None of your accusation or attacks are threatening.
Am i narcissistic? Fine. The better man should be.. In fact i would argue anyone who perceives narcissism in another is due to their own weak character and lack of self worth. I may even go a step further and argue that true confidence has died out and given way to tender footed reactionary ignorant drones. You're offended because you're taught to be offended.
knowwaie 2 months ago
@knowwaie No. I'm offended by stupidity and wilful ignorance. I know how intelligent I am and I am intelligent enough to know the limits of my knowledge. You sir, do not.
uknowispeaksense 2 months ago
Kent Hovind is a mother fucking douche bag
27kestrel27 2 months ago
creationists are half evolved
27kestrel27 2 months ago
Let me reiterate since the end of the video presents the infamous 'self correction' of propaganda.
It is the HYPE that is being addressed here. You hype the shit out of everything, then change you mind.. Then shut the fuck up until you know what you're talking about. This is the most ridiculous part. The amount of drones defending the ever shifting ground of a science that they admit changes more than the wind. What alterable "facts" do you have today?... Go fly a kite if you're bored.
knowwaie 3 months ago
Another thing, about the fossil 'fakes'. You can't deny this anymore. After all the hype over the fossil Ida, which is now thought to be insignificant, was the perfect example of what you do. Then at some point in the future, when a new generation arrives who weren't witnesses to the fossil, there will be another moron like yourself accusing them of lying about it. You psychopaths do this ever couple years. You repeatedly hype every find to recruit followers then recant to retain credibility.
knowwaie 3 months ago
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Quite so Ida did not turn out to be what was exspected but was still 47 million-year-old primate fossil.
Now I shall prehaps fly a kite, which led to air travel incidently. Good on science and thinking.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
Wonderful.. It's amazing how people are so retarded that they don't care that they've been hyped pretentiously..
Could you imagine any company advertising a product on the television, selling it to the public, then later saying 'sorry, our product doesn't really work'.
It's the fact that it was hyped to the public. If people weren't bat shit retarded these days they would be annoyed by this. Just learn the word 'pretentious', then pull your head out of your ass and invent a helmet.
knowwaie 2 months ago
I'd also like to point out that many of these supposed mistakes are because they are trying to meet you on common ground. When one of you is so desperately struggling to understand logical arguments and failing, we have no other choice but to dumb ourselves down for you and talk about animals...
knowwaie 3 months ago
No matter how mistaken these people may have been.. The depth of stupidity from atheists will always be unparalleled.
I want to see you respond to even something as simple as the 'moral argument'. Which is comparatively weak, but still confuses atheists for some reason. An atheist trying to understand philosophy is like watching a retard trying to lick his elbows. They just can't do it and end up looking ridiculous in the process. Logic is really hard isn't it? It takes genuine thought.
knowwaie 3 months ago
@ 2:17 "I'm having an affair..... With this jar of peanut butter!"
lesouder2222 3 months ago
According to creationists, back in the days of yore there where supernatural events of large magnitude happening every day of the week. But as historical records became more widespread and accurate, this supernatural activity became less reported. Is there any data or evidence to supports the claims of creationists?
MatthewBissonnette88 3 months ago
@MatthewBissonnette88 no.
MoralRapist 3 months ago
@MatthewBissonnette88 Quite, I have yet to meet a talking snake or see people raise from the dead (as happens many time in the Bible). God was also pretty petty and vengeful, particularly in the old testament, so if he do exist he has clearly taken anger management courses for not smiting the whole unholy lot of us on a whim.
TheBanile 3 months ago
Hovind is in jail where all fraudsters belong coz god told him he did not need to pay his taxes.
dirtydonki 3 months ago
Love the song!
"Je suis une merde et je vous emmerde."
synsei1 3 months ago
@dec4dence 38,000 sects - "Christianity Today – General Statistics and Facts of Christianity Today" Be serious, there are FAR more than 38,000 church buildings.
"I believe what the Bible teaches, and nothing else" So you do uphold the Old Testament, then? Seeing as how Jesus did not come into the world to abolish the law, but to fulfill it? (Mathew 5: 17)
Reading the bible is what pushed me on the path to atheism. It's a horrible book. It holds a grain of morality and a ton of cruelty.
StrikaAmaru 4 months ago
@StrikaAmaru A Christian who does not read and testify to the truths of the Old Testament is an unfounded or misguided Christian at best. "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16. The OT is essential to the Christian faith. I don't know what "Christianity Today" is, and I don't really care. Tell me, what authority do you have to discern morality? You are just dust; worthless and uncreated.
dec4dence 4 months ago
Morality is internal. Those of you that are ignorant creatards are so simple-minded that you act like 5 year olds, who need their mommy and daddy to tell them the difference between right and wrong. Religion is horribly immoral. It is full of the ramblings of ignorant, bloodthirsty savages. We've come a long way since then.
nancy6ify 4 months ago
@nancy6ify We have come a long way? Obviously, you do not read the news. Come out of your shell little turtle. It's a big world out there.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence
would i kill someone for not worshiping me? no. would i burn them for eternity for being a homosexual? no. that makes me morally superior to god. and probably you. i'd rather contribute NOTHING to society than bring it back 200 years.
TAXEXEMPTION 4 months ago
@TAXEXEMPTION Everyone likes to point out how unjust and wrathful God was in the Old Testament. You are missing a big piece of the puzzle. He came as a man, and died so we don't have to experience his wrath. All we have to do is believe he did it. His mercy and grace is unparalleled, yet you chose to throw it aside and attempt to put him in a little box. You have never heard the Gospel if you don't know what Jesus did.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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@dec4dence *You have never heard the Gospel if you don't know what Jesus did. * who wrote the gospel? Were you there when it was written? Is all things written hard evidence of something happening? If you would ask your self these questions when you read the bible you would come to the same conclusion as me... Religion is a myth!
TheSjaan105 4 months ago
ninth commandment, break it less.
-cheers.
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@dec4dence
so this is going to turn into a 'nou' battle? am i to say 'show me evidence that he DOES exist'? here's an idea, if you want to prove ME wrong about people like you, address EVERYTHING i say and not just cherry pick my replies.
'okay buddy. since i can speak perfect english, i'll remind you of a 'fraudulent accusation' that you creationist fuckwits are very fond of saying:
"darwin relapsed to christianity on his deathbed'
'einstein believed in god'
i could go on.' such as this.
TAXEXEMPTION 4 months ago
one more thing, want to know WHY i'm an atheist? it's mostly because of how morally disgusting your god is. if you hold any of the views that it does, you're beyond nothingness.
TAXEXEMPTION 4 months ago
@TAXEXEMPTION Really? You want to talk about morals? Let's talk about morals. By your comment it's evident you believe you have greater morals than God. If that is so, I have absolutely no desire to hold a dialogue with you. I've met many people who held those views, and they are all absolute assholes. A person like that brings nothing of any worth to society. They are bitchy leeches. You believe there are morals. Where did morality come from? We are all animals, and evolution is totally random.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence evolution is not totally random. Because you think this, it shows you truly have very little understanding of the theory of evolution, so don't claim it's false if you don't understand it. Morals come from evolving as social animals. The "if we're just animals, where did our morals come from" is not a good argument. You may as well say leopards are not animals because they have spots, and other animals don't.
Pirate44444 4 months ago
@Pirate44444 I don't tolerate liars, so I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with one. See you on judgment day.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence "See you on judgment day." aka, never. Color me unimpressed.
"All we have to do is believe" and then it doesn't matter what we've done WE ARE SAAAAAVED!!!! What a disgusting, repulsive and utterly immoral way to think. For all your asking atheists where do they get their morals, I might as well ask you where do you get yours, because you obviously don't get it from religion. Your religion, or rather, the demented sect you're part of, doesn't care about you deeds, merely about belief.
StrikaAmaru 4 months ago
@StrikaAmaru "So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." - James 2:17. You obviously have no concept of Christianity, or the twisted one you maintain is too far gone to even be called Christianity. I find it entertaining that people like you attempt to debunk Christianity when you haven't the slightest idea what it is.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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StrikaAmaru 4 months ago
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@dec4dence There are 38,000 sects of Christianity out there. The main trends, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, do indeed maintain that faith without deeds is dead. Orthodoxy even claims that good, virtuous pagans will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but will be blind, because they are not baptized.
HOWEVER, in my year and a half since I'm lurking on YT, I've noticed that most ardent Christians are NOT part of these main, moderate trends. No, what I usually run into are foaming-at-the-mouth fundies (cont)
StrikaAmaru 4 months ago
@StrikaAmaru I would love to know where you got 38000 sects of Christianity. 38000 church buildings maybe, but different sects? I don't accept that number. Regardless, I hold to no denomination. You see, unlike many hypocritical Christians out there, I believe what the Bible teaches, and nothing else. I apologize for the true Church (Body of Christ) if these false teachers have skewed your vision of us. I believe Jesus is the son of God, and he died as our substitute. He paid our debt to God.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@StrikaAmaru Furthermore, Jesus warned about false teachers. A false teacher, meaning anyone who proclaims a gospel different than the one Jesus preached; Jesus is the son of God, and died to pay the debt mankind incurred against God by breaking his law in sin, so that all who believe might be saved. All the stuff that catholics and jehova witnesses and what not add is man-made garbage. "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." Matthew 7:15
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence what sins ?
antoireland09 4 months ago
@dec4dence At its core Christianity is an evil and dangerous death cult glorifying the destruction of the planet and longing for this life to end so followers can visit a god in a paradise. It’s insanity.
max2right 4 months ago
@max2right I've never heard that one before. Where are you from? Waco, Texas? I suggest you go hang out with some Christians, and maybe listen to a few sermons that establish Christian values and doctrines before you make such a generalization. Are there hypocritical Christians? Absolutely. Are they all that way? No. Insanity is claiming the complexity of the universe developed came with time. Ever heard of Entropy? 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says time breaks things. It doesn't build them.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Well you haven’t been paying attention or have glossed over the fact that your salvation depends on a barbaric and immoral human sacrifice and an apocalypse to announce that dead guy’s return. It’s in your book. Calling it insanity is the kindest thing I can say If you are going to invoke the 2nd law you should also know understand and apply the other two. Do you compare your training and knowledge to that of scientists working in the field?
max2right 4 months ago
@max2right I left out the other two because I didn't want to shut you down too badly. Get off your high horse, and get a different world view. My salvation does not depend on any such barbaric act. Define barbaric, and explain to my by what authority you define what is moral in the world. You are just a little pile of dust who doesn't believe in God. By the atheist's view, you and your opinions are worthless. Everything is pointless, and so is your comment.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence If a follower of any of the three Abrahamic death cults had clear evidence that gods exist they would cram it down our throats in every media everywhere. There would be little discussion or doubt. As it is there is no such evidence a great deal of discussion and a persistent doubt that has led to the decrease of religious belief around the world. Actions speak. We see christians muslims & jews killing each other and their children over which version of the same god is correct.
max2right 4 months ago
@dec4dence Please don't try to pass of some simple minded misunderstanding of thermodynamics in a failed attempt to support your religious myths. If you want to believe in God, fine, but Creationists who misrepresent science are doing a disservice to everyone. The second law of thermodynamics states an increase in disorder IN A CLOSED SYSTEM. Earth is NOT a closed system. Energy from the sun is constantly providing additional energy. Why won't creationists learn this?
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby Last time I checked, the sun is detrimental to the structure of all things. It is necessary for life, yes. It also destroys. Do not attempt to throw me under the bus. Your argument can not stand. It has been chewed up and spit out every time someone brings it up. The sun's energy is not a sufficient ingredient to create life. You still need material, information, and work. You think long periods of time explains where these others come from? I don't buy it.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Did you sleep through every science class? The Sun is NOT detrimental to the structure of all thinks. How do you think plants work? Please go to Wikipedia and type in "Photosynthesis" and READ IT. While you are there, look up "Geologic Time" "Evolution" and "Intelligent Design". You should at least look these things up before posting to avoid embarrassment.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby Of "all thinks." Obviously, photosynthesis doesn't function without sunlight. Do you honestly believe I didn't know that? Nice attempt at sidestepping all else I said. That's what your kind does. They attack the person destroying their arguments. Get a new perspective. You beleaguer my mind with this nonsense.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Your dogmatic religious views have polluted your ability to evaluate information. "the sun is detrimental to the structure of all things." was shown to be wrong. Your misunderstanding of the 2nd law of thermodynamics was shown to be wrong. You have made claims of what science says that are wrong. Your understanding of deep time is wrong and I have shown where to verify that you are wrong on all counts. Hardly sidestepping any issues.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby What ever is "deep time"? I think you've had too many deep times up in San Francisco. Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time than to make these ridiculous claims? Oh, I suppose that since you say I am wrong on all accounts that MUST be the truth of it. Get real. What do you think about the fact that almost every avenue of science was pioneered by God fearing men? We have a battle between two world views; two religions, and our science is based off those views.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Deep time is a term referring to the earth being over 4 billion years old as opposed to the incorrect belief by Creationists that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. I did not say that there is no God, I claim that you misunderstand basic scientific concepts and your misstatements of evidence are actually hurting your case more than helping. Stick with religion, you can't be proved wrong so easily. When you tread into science, the rigor is higher than you can withstand.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@dec4dence Since the vast majority of men were theists one and two centuries ago, then scientists of those times would probably be theists too, but that is irrelevant to conducting honest inquiry on how the cosmos works. "Our" science? I don't know what that means. Honest inquiry is not conservative liberal, theistic or non theistic, it is honest inquiry about the reality of nature. If you are not conducting honest inquiry, then you are not doing science. Creationists don't do real science.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@dec4dence "The OT is essential to the Christian faith. I don't know what "Christianity Today" is, and I don't really care. Tell me, what authority do you have to discern morality?"
"Christianity today" is the sum of all 38,000 sects; this was obvious from the context.
The authority for morality is the same as you: your own mind, some evolutionarily hardwired behavioral patterns in your brain, and social pressure. The only difference between you and me is that I actually admit to that.
StrikaAmaru 3 months ago
@dec4dence Here is your basic problem. you are trying to make theistic claims and back them up with science that you do not understand, and it is backfiring on you. I suggest that you keep to theistic claims and leave science to people with an education in science. You only do your side harm by trying to bring in concepts that you do not understand and misapplying them. If you want to believe in God, fine, but misapplying science does not help you and only reveals your lack of education.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby You know nothing of me or my education. You want the opinion of a scientist? Albert Einstein (do you know who that is?) once said, "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God. "
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence My comments have nothing to do with the existence of God or not. I don't care about your religious views, it's about the misapplication of science. When you misapply the 2nd law of thermodynamics, then misapply entropy then misapply the energy from the sun, you hurt your own case. So, yes I do know about your education in science or lack thereof. You make it painfully obvious. Again, stick to religion and not science claims that you do not understand
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby I suggest you do not judge another person's intellect or what have you when you cannot create a grammatically sound sentence. If your comments have nothing to do with God and evolution, there seems to be little reason for you to write anything at all. Please tell me you have something better to be doing than picking apart my commentary.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence " I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws." Albert Einstein. Einstein did not believe in a personal God. He was NOT a theist, He spoke of "God" as synonymous with "nature".
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby How do you have any idea of what he was or wasn't? You think "googleing" a random quote (the credibility of which is questionable at best) makes you an Einstein expert? Have you read a biography? I never said he was a Christian. He did, however, believe in God. You, I conclude, believe in God. This is a good start. I challenge you to take another step and read the Bible. Question it entirely, but do not discount it until you understand both sides of each issue.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Yes, I have read Einstein's biography and he did not believe in a personal God. My issue with your comments is not your religious beliefs, it is your misapplication of science. Had you not misapplied the 2nd law of thermodynamics, entropy, and the suns energy output to support your religion, you would never have heard from me. I studied science in college and the way Creationists bastardize science is ignorant at best and dishonest at worst. I don't mind calling them on it.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby So, you have no more education than I. You speak really big and bold, but have nothing to back it with. The only ignorance I see here is your outlook on science. Actually, I think it goes beyond that. I think it's your outlook on the Church. Whatever resentment you have towards God is misguided.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence BS again! It is painfully obvious that you have no formal science education for the reasons I outlines several times, Second, I have not shown any resentment toward any God. My resentment is targeted only at creationists people who are willfully ignorant of science and try to spread ignorance to others. It is people like you who drive people like me to keep religious nonsense out of science class.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@dec4dence So which part of: "you consistently misrepresent science and therefore do your own side harm. You should stick to religion and stay away from science that you do not understand " that you have such a hard time grasping? That is not an attack on your religion. It is about how you try to support your religious views with complete ignorance of real science. Those of us who did study physics, read what you write and laugh or just shake our heads in disbelief.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby You show your illogical nature in your sentence structure once more. You said, "BS again!" What is bs? What are you talking about? You are not a scientist because you studied physics in high school as I am not a scientist. Do not assume you are some authority, and everything you say is a golden truth. You are just a harebrained man who's in denial. I hope one day soon you will understand your relationship to God.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence And do not assume that you have authority or truth either, especially as you are in a much weaker position as you are arguing fallacies and from ignorance; even someone who studied science at a school level an see that you are severely misinformed and can support their argument with a host of scientific knowledge ad evidence.
Also, BS is short internet terms for 'bullshit'.
TheBanile 3 months ago
@dec4dence Einstein who said "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
gamesbok 3 months ago
@gamesbok That is an awesome quote. You know, if you read the Bible you will find that the god that this quote portrays, "whose purposes are modeled after our own," is not in there. The worst thing about "Christians" today is the false image they attribute to God.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence It's there. 'Mein Weltbild. Wie ich die Welt sehe (Gebundene Ausgabe) 1934.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
- letter March 24, 1954
gamesbok 3 months ago
@dec4dence Since I know you won't look this up yourself: "The rate of energy capture by photosynthesis is immense, approximately 100 terawatts,[3] which is about six times larger than the power consumption of human civilization.[4] As well as energy, photosynthesis is also the source of the carbon in all the organic compounds within organisms' bodies. In all, photosynthetic organisms convert around 100–115 petagrams of carbon into biomass per year.[5][6]"
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@dec4dence You have your science concepts all confused (big surprise) No one claims that the sun is the only energy that CREATED life, but it is the primary source of energy for most life on earth to flourish, move, reproduce, evolve and create more life. Where were you in science class? I learned this stuff in 6th grade.
coolgreyoneabby 3 months ago
@Pirate44444 evolution is not totally random. Look it up I'm not lying.
Pirate44444 4 months ago
@dec4dence
okay buddy. since i can speak perfect english, i'll remind you of a 'fraudulent accusation' that you creationist fuckwits are very fond of saying:
"darwin relapsed to christianity on his deathbed'
'einstein believed in god'
i could go on.
TAXEXEMPTION 4 months ago
@TAXEXEMPTION Hey smart guy, I never said any of those things, but I don't doubt them. I'm sure both were decent fellows. More decent than you by a long shot. You said you could go on. Please do. Is that really your best argument? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Please, show me evidence that God does not exist.
dec4dence 4 months ago
Thank you so very very much for all your posts Potholder...and thank you so very very much for stating with articulation and straight forwardnes and humor/seriousnies the flaws and ridiculousness of the creationists arguements.I do accept that these people are more than likely on the far end of the creationist end ..however recently a mega church group set up shop in a closed elementary school in this rural area of Oregon.People i used to talk rationally with have changed and it scares me a bit
copycoonie 4 months ago
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes
pat5168 4 months ago
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. - Romans 1:20
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence DNA is the clearest example that this world and the things in it were created. Encoded information cannot create itself.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) is a self replicating molecule - it can create itself. Each time it replicates it can make mistakes which result in it containing different genetic information than before, aka something new. This is new information 'creating itself'. It happens all the time and is well understood.
FactThis 4 months ago
@FactThis Obviously, it isn't well understood because you don't know what you are talking about. Something cannot come from nothing. If you cannot grasp that, there is little hope of you understanding genetics. May God help you.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence If you cannot grasp that genetic mutation is NOT something coming from nothing, then may God help YOU.
FactThis 4 months ago
@FactThis You are as dense as concrete. If God didn't create DNA, then no one did. Right? If no one created it, it came from nothing. If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?
dec4dence 4 months ago
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@dec4dence "If no one created it, it came from nothing". That is the most retarded piece of reasoning I've ever heard. Something arising naturally doesn't necessarily equate to 'coming from nothing'. The elements that make DNA molecules are commonplace on this planet.
"If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?" No, why would I? Evolution doesn't make everything perfect, and if you think it's supposed to then you definitely have some reading to do.
FactThis 4 months ago
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@dec4dence "If evolution were true, don't you think your brain would work better than it does?"
What a ridiculous thing to say. I don't know about you, but my brain is evolved to the point that I can analyze, understand, and accept scientific evidence/consensus.
VesusSheist 4 months ago
@FactThis Wow, are you fresh off the boat or what? The question is this. Where did the genes come from? We are not talking about mutations, which by the way, don't exist. We are talking about genes. Where did they come from? Who wrote DNA? Did you?
dec4dence 4 months ago
Requirements to be a Creationist:
Learn enough to question Evolution, but not enough to find the answers.
Have severe selective skepticism.
Convince yourself and others that Myth > Theory.
Pretending to know something makes it more right if no one can prove or disprove it.
Put the burden of proof on the neutral view.
pat5168 5 months ago 2
"I have a British accent, therefore I am smart." We'll see who's right when the dust settles, and all are before the judge with no appeal on the docket. We all die. Where we go is the question.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence Correction: IF we go is the question.
pat5168 5 months ago
@pat5168 It's a sorrowful existence if there's no hope of something after this life. If I had no promise of something else, I think I'd lose my little mind and correct people on youtube.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence It's a sorrowful existence if you live this life the whole time hoping for a better one. Stop worrying about it and be appreciative and grateful for what you have. You have the mind of a suicidal person if you believe that this life has no point if it's the only one we have.
"Immortals would envy us, we will never be as capable as we are now, knowing that every second of our time spent here is limited makes it even more beautiful than believing we have eternity to enjoy it."
pat5168 5 months ago
@pat5168 Are you then grateful for what you have? Who are you grateful to? Talk to me when death is at your door, and you've emptied your boots of piss.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence I'm grateful I live on this one planet among millions of galaxies and it has flourishing life. I don't need a person to be grateful to. But that does not make it any less appreciated. Why do you think I'm wearing boots with piss? Sounds more like Jesus walking on water. Death smiles at us all, the least we can do is smile back.
pat5168 5 months ago
@dec4dence So that's why you hold desperately onto those ridiculous myths?
MastermindX 5 months ago
@MastermindX What specifically are you referring to? The only myth involved here is that air of "intelligence" that surrounds your swollen cranium.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence Well, it's you who said that without religion you'd go crazy. I'm doing fine so far without it.
MastermindX 5 months ago
@dec4dence Pffffffft lol
RichtoffenRoach 4 months ago
@dec4dence my advise:Go get a life! You wont need god anymore... why are you watch these video's anyway? got a little doubt in your so called faith? Or do you not even watch them? You are just here trying to convert atheist? Well you can't convert atheist because they know the facts! with evidence! Your only evidence of your claims is a book! Written by many people in different time periods! Those people also thought for example : that the earth was flat and so on.. And you believe that book?lol
TheSjaan105 4 months ago
@TheSjaan105 Do you speak enrgish? You just made the most fraudulent accusations ever. Typical atheist talking like they know what they are talking about. Ever read the Bible? I'd beat your ass if you talked to me like that in person.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Sure you do.... If you want to believe the bible... Well fine by me! But don't say its fact! The differents between you and me is that you believe the bible blindly and i believe facts! have a good day
TheSjaan105 4 months ago
@TheSjaan105 I'm not ignorant enough to believe anything blindly, which is why I don't believe in evolution. None of that crap they tried to shove down our throats about Darwin in high school stuck, so I sought something more substantial. All you evolutionist/agnostics are the same. You make these huge assumptions, then declare the argument over. Who said it was over? It hasn't even begun. Tell me where matter came from. If there was a big bang, what blew up?
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Evolution has nothing to do with how the universe started! Evolution explains the diversity of life! So not the origin of life! Evolution is proven many times if you took the effort to look it up you understand that! The bible is just a stupid and really outdated way to explain the universe! ''I'm not ignorant enough to believe anything blindly,'' you blindly believe the bible! There is no evidence what so ever that the bible is fact! if you want to argue with me fine.....
TheSjaan105 4 months ago
@dec4dence but first watch these video's in this channel : WhyEvolutionIsTrue
There is tons of evidence why evolution is true! When you did that come back and argue! I'm not gonna argue with some one that knows nothing about evolution and the universe... Ah yes btw there is enough science that explains the universe pretty good and yes we don't know everything YET! but you can't say ah we don't know something so god did it
TheSjaan105 4 months ago
@dec4dence
Luckily, we don't HAVE to believe this sort of thing blindly. The masses of evidence that have been gathered so far certainly help us along. It isn't assumption, it's observation and experimentation.
SenMysrana 3 months ago
HAHAHAHHAHHA CREATIONISTS ARE RETARDS AND THEIR BIGGEST ADVOCATES ARE KIDS WHO GREW UP ATTENDING THE CHRISTIAN EQUIVALENT TO ISLAMIC MADRASSAS, USUALLY PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALIST SCHOOLS AFFILIATED WITH A CHURCH IN SOME PO-DUNK CRACKER TOWN. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH A CREATIONIST AND SEE HOW DUMB THEY ARE, LOOK UP ANDY MICHAEL WAGONER ON FACEBOOK
Tripo1iSamson 5 months ago
'Theres no FUCKING carbon in it!' lol
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago 13
Apes are comfortable in how they walk just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
Mogley52 5 months ago
@Mogley52 And those that had said muscles out of place would have been eaten and never reproduced. Those that did have the muscle correctly placed would survive to reproduce and pass on their "not fail muscle positioning". Your point is? As for no hard evidence: Evolution has more supporting it than gravity yet you're probably not too up in arms against that are you?
echaaaa 5 months ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible in nature (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). Species couldn't have survived while their vital tissues, organs, biological systems were still evolving. Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 5 months ago
There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can give that supports the idea of evolution, if one was to really look inside of evolution they should find that it is pure idiocy and just plain stupid. If evolution has ever existed then why does evolution not occur within monkeys, human beings now. Evolution is just another fallible reason to discredit God. God makes much more sense than Darwin's weak theory or guess.
chica0616 5 months ago
« There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can give that supports the idea of evolution »
Well, except for the matching nested hierarchies in zoology and comparative genomics; the distribution patterns of similarities and differences in ERV's; human chromosome #2; the progressions of diverging traits in palaeontology matching the aforementioned nested hierarchies; and so on, and so forth.
XGralgrathor 5 months ago
@XGralgrathor Wow, you are so smart. You just blew my mind with those huge words. What compelling points you've made... I hope you note the sarcasm.
dec4dence 3 months ago
« huge words. »
So, you've a list of questions about biology, but you can't be bothered to acquaint yourself with the subject to the point where you understand at least some of its terminology?
Well, have fun with that.
XGralgrathor 3 months ago
« why does evolution not occur within monkeys, human beings now »
It does. Were you expecting entirely new morphologies to emerge from existing clades overnight? That would be magic, not evolution.
XGralgrathor 5 months ago
« God makes much more sense »
Ah, but since you like magic better than science, perhaps you *should* expect to see entirely new morphologies to emerge overnight. After all, creation does not have to hold to any natural boundaries or limitations, now does it?
XGralgrathor 5 months ago 8
@chica0616 First of all, "theory" doesn't mean "guess". Theories have evidence to back them up. Second, evolution is still happening. For example, the most recent generation's people have longer thumbs than previous generations. People are also much taller than they used to be, and we're growing to be more intelligent. Also, whales live in water now, but their skeleton shows evidence that they used to walk on land. There is a lot of evidence. You obviously haven't done your research.
keilareadman 5 months ago
@keilareadman Theories are ideas intended to explain something, notice that truth is nowhere in this definition. Athesist's reasoning are so limited that their conclusion could never be 100%. And as for human beings growing more intelligent, that is to be expected. As for whales walking on land the verdict is still out on that one because obviously you cannot believe what everyone considers to be evidence. There was also evidence of Apes evolving into man, but apes still exist why?
chica0616 3 weeks ago
@chica0616 We are still apes. If you even bring that up you have no understanding of evolution. If you take a seed from a tree and plant it, why is there still the first tree ? The analogy is actually just to show you to what extent you don't understand evolution.
ivanlagrossemoule 3 weeks ago
@chica0616 We are apes, Orangutans, Gorillas, and Chimpanzee's are our cousins all from a common ancestor. Do you know what phylogeny and taxonomy is? You talk as if you have discovered something so obvious in this flaw that is evolution that you can say it candidly in a comments section of a youtube video? Wow, you must know a lot about science and how every branch of science there in is wrong on this topic...please enlighten us professor....tell us how you will win the Nobel prize.
Antimidation 3 weeks ago
@chica0616 Nothing is 100%...Science never claims that it is 100%. It never has, that's what saves itself from bias opinions..ideas are tested over and over and over again and if they fail they are never THEORIES of science. A scientific theory is what we have in place to explain a system or ideas....please enlighten us to a system in modern society that is better than science when it comes to learning what is true and what is false?
Antimidation 3 weeks ago
@chica0616 Human's didn't necessarily evolve from apes. They share a common ancestor, such as wolves and dogs, cats and lions. Humans are growing more intelligent, and the amount of people who believe in God is decreasing as a result. People these days are too intelligent to believe in it anymore and I'm seeing the result in kids who are still in school. Most kids who are intelligent are atheists because they aren't dumb enough to succumb to brainwashing of parents and churches.
keilareadman 3 weeks ago 8
@chica0616 equating evolution theory to atheism is an automatically fail, and reveal much ignorance on your part. Maybe you should lay off the old school R&B and pay more attention to science.
Casshyr 2 weeks ago
@chica0616 You do not know a single thing you talk about. You are a fool.
itchygonads 1 week ago
i found this very amusing.
MrChristainchris 6 months ago
Maybe we should believe in God on the basis of the cosmological argument or the ontological argument or the moral argument. Maybe our belief in God isn't based on arguments at all but is grounded in religious experience or in divine revelation. Maybe God wants us to believe in Him simply by faith. The point is that rejecting design arguments for God's existence does nothing to prove that God does not exist or even that belief in God is unjustified. Why doesn't POT HOLE HEAD argue Craigs words?
shizzleman8 6 months ago
Making the case for your opponent is another logical fallacy that doesn't abide well with your client, in this case yours is a fool. that's what happens when you represent yourself and appealing to your opponents arguments.
shizzleman8 6 months ago
Creationist junk is debunked and creationist myths are debunked that just leaves the good creationism. This fucking retarded chieftain of the retards can't even title a video using logic. She's striving so hard to project her prejudice it comes across as lunacy opposing her own position. Creationism debunked is what she's hoping to establish, but if she can't even write that, she FAILS! What a nimkimpoop.
shizzleman8 6 months ago
Are you dorks really trying to establish the Theory of Evolution or are you merely trying to prove that you have purpose in life by arguing that it disspells the universe wasn't created in 6 days? Either way Christians just adjust their reading of Scripure to accomodate science. Don't you make allowances for new science? You don't believe that light and gamma rays travel through space at the same speed anymore do you? You're not still clinging to that old sacred cow, hmm?
shizzleman8 6 months ago
Surplusage. Opinion. Asked and answered. Conjecture, Assumption. Motives implied but never addressed for obvious reasons.
I know a YEC, and what I don't do is try and explain why what he believes is horse toast, why would I? That's the exact same as walking up to a cripple in a wheel chair and yelling in his/her ear, "YOU'RE A CRIPPLE". YEC's accept the inerrancy of scripture, no matter how many videos you geniuses make that will never change either of your faiths.
shizzleman8 6 months ago
@shizzleman8
Problem with your post is that you seem to be mistaking evolution as some sort of "faith". It isn't of course. Not sure if that was indeed the point you were trying to make or maybe I read that wrong.
gregonamus 6 months ago
@gregonamus Biology doesn't take sides against creationism any more than an airplane has faith that a bicycle is a superior form of transportation. If you can't even understand what is a belief, like naturalism and what is science, the objective collection of data, then of course a person like me couldn't possibly make one bit of sense to a person like that. All this worthless piece of shit is doing is arguing that the universe wasn't made in 6 days. Hey, thanks Einstein, got the memo. Imbecile