The Peripheral Bus does play a huge in the overall speed of a machine.
An increased IO latency locks processes for a longer time, reducing the throughtput, also Direct Memory Access, removes the IO overhead from the CPU.
While for the RISC: Most of the machines we have today are infact risc. All game consoles, mobile devices, smart phones use either ARM or MIPS. Both riscs architectures. All modern Intels (Pentium up) are infact internally RICS or VLIW embeded in a CISC shell.
@marlls1989 When listing RISCS, I forgot to say that PS3 and Xbox360 are in fact both Power architecture machines, with especialized slave SIMD RISC processors...
In 1995 i think company called Apple used RISC in their super awesome computers LOL Now in 2011 apple is fuc**n sh*t. RISC is in the every mobile phone on earth, on cca 95% tablets. and most awesome think about 2011 is that even BETA feature like CC transcript is doing better job than YOUR brain 355over113 EOL :DDD
I find it funny the poster makes fun of the movies use of PCI and RISC but doesn't understand that they were mostly used correctly. In 1995, the PCI bus was only a couple years old. Having a PCI Bus indeed sped things up and opened the door for faster video cards while incorporating plug and play tech. This is why you can no longer find ISA slots on motherboards, but PCI survives as legacy to this day. Also, RISC helped revolutionize mobile and handheld devices, such as Apple's iPhone and iPod.
@moldyspore it seems to me that you don't really understand any of it very much more...RISC didn't really *Change* anything, except RISC CPU's are chintzy & half-assed. RISC is short for Reduced Instructions Set & it's in reference to the Processor (or CPU aka; Central Processing Unit) & an Apple PowerBook I'd imagine did have a RISC CPU & It's the Alternative to CISC which is short for Complex Instructions Set an RISC CPU, For Example, is like an AMD K5 CPU & a CISC CPU, Intel Xeon's...
@IMaDEM0N ARM processors and many others still use it. there is nothing chintzy or half assed about it. really its more a "design strategy" then an actual cpu but still ARM processors are in alot of modern devices. anyways i dont "know it all" my friend who does know alot referenced this quote last night and i wanted to investigate it. and after seeing your comment at the top i wanted to recant some of what i learned. anyways all my quotes are from the RISC wiki page
Also keep in mind that they hacked an ultra secure corporate supercomputer using shitty early 90's laptops (and modems they probably pieced together with scotch tape and popsicle sticks) from a payphone booth in Grand Central Station.
@danwat1234: Vice versa. Modern x86 and x86_64 CPUs present a complex instruction set to the world, which is translated to a simpler one by the microcode. However, they still count as CISC.
Of course most other popular architectures like ARM (most smartphones and similar mobile devices), POWER (all non-portable current-gen game consoles) or MIPS (PSP, routers etc.) are RISC. Essentially, any device smaller than a PC runs on a RISC CPU. RISC did change everything - in the (huge) embedded market.
Couldn't agree more. The introduction of PCI was a major breakthrough and dramatically increased speed on the PC. Which is why Apple later incorporated it into the Macs.
My problem with the movie (though I was entertained) was the visualization of their interfaces while hacking.... Flying through 'building like' blocks? Oh well, I guess they needed to give a futuristic feel for the laymen.
"P6" is microarchitecture that was used in the Pentium Pro, not released till later that year - so I guess they attempted at some research. But it wasn't RISC and never made it to any laptop...
Yes, PCI did matter back then, as opposed to the slower, clunky and outdated ISA slots. Laptops at the time were extremely underpowered and difficult to handle. Also, RISC architecture is still the baseline for other processors such as the ARM and MIPS processors, which use simplistic instructions compared to the x86 architecture which is slow and clunky. Not to mention that the MIPS and ARM processors are used in major embedded computing, such as the PS2 and Nintendo DS respectively. ね
Angelina Jolie will always be hotter Megan Fox. Plus this movie proves she could pull off an intelligent role as a opposed to playing a sex object. That's all Megan has shown she can play. There's no real purpose for her presence in the Transformer movies.
Dade seems to have some trouble getting the syntax of his commands right, as the terminal appears to repeatedly spit at him "Valid command line switches:" for most things he tries.
He also finds a "Generic ARCNET driver". Whoa, the machine is truly amazing! We all know how ARCNET completely triumphed over Ethernet, just like how RISC obliterated x86.
bah, he was just sayin she had a PCI bus when ISA was still most common.
freedustin 3 weeks ago
lol "hope you dont screw like you type" typing speed slows as he contemplates having sex with Angeline
bloodstainss 1 month ago 2
The Peripheral Bus does play a huge in the overall speed of a machine.
An increased IO latency locks processes for a longer time, reducing the throughtput, also Direct Memory Access, removes the IO overhead from the CPU.
While for the RISC: Most of the machines we have today are infact risc. All game consoles, mobile devices, smart phones use either ARM or MIPS. Both riscs architectures. All modern Intels (Pentium up) are infact internally RICS or VLIW embeded in a CISC shell.
marlls1989 2 months ago 2
@marlls1989 When listing RISCS, I forgot to say that PS3 and Xbox360 are in fact both Power architecture machines, with especialized slave SIMD RISC processors...
marlls1989 2 months ago
most funny thing was when Jobs announced change to CISC architecture for their PC´s and servers i just broke my chair LOL
and windows 8 now going to RISC its so funny LOL what a genius Jobs was :-D
And yes Apple produce PC´s!!!! idiots :DD (some)
PJutoobe 2 months ago
REDUCED Instructions Set dont mean its REDUCED in power, or abilities of any kind it just means it has less wide instruction set.
PJutoobe 2 months ago
In 1995 i think company called Apple used RISC in their super awesome computers LOL Now in 2011 apple is fuc**n sh*t. RISC is in the every mobile phone on earth, on cca 95% tablets. and most awesome think about 2011 is that even BETA feature like CC transcript is doing better job than YOUR brain 355over113 EOL :DDD
PJutoobe 2 months ago
RISC arch is going to change the way you fuck...
atma 3 months ago
burn: 'i hope you don't screw like you type'
crash: *HRNNG*
milkkart 4 months ago
It's too much machine... well woman i'm posting from a fucking pentium 4 so I hope you're happy
StargateMunky 5 months ago
@StargateMunky P4s are like 10 years old lol
Zentraleinheite 4 months ago
I hope you realise what exactly you are saying...
StargateMunky 4 months ago
It has a PCI bus.
FateAv 6 months ago
"i hope you dont screw like you type"
she just gave the game away.
topbluffa1 6 months ago 5
what's funny is ARM RISC really *is* going to take over thanks to the massive proliferation of Gen-M devices.
SteamBoatMtnDes 7 months ago
I find it funny the poster makes fun of the movies use of PCI and RISC but doesn't understand that they were mostly used correctly. In 1995, the PCI bus was only a couple years old. Having a PCI Bus indeed sped things up and opened the door for faster video cards while incorporating plug and play tech. This is why you can no longer find ISA slots on motherboards, but PCI survives as legacy to this day. Also, RISC helped revolutionize mobile and handheld devices, such as Apple's iPhone and iPod.
moldyspore 7 months ago
@moldyspore it seems to me that you don't really understand any of it very much more...RISC didn't really *Change* anything, except RISC CPU's are chintzy & half-assed. RISC is short for Reduced Instructions Set & it's in reference to the Processor (or CPU aka; Central Processing Unit) & an Apple PowerBook I'd imagine did have a RISC CPU & It's the Alternative to CISC which is short for Complex Instructions Set an RISC CPU, For Example, is like an AMD K5 CPU & a CISC CPU, Intel Xeon's...
IMaDEM0N 2 months ago
@IMaDEM0N ARM processors and many others still use it. there is nothing chintzy or half assed about it. really its more a "design strategy" then an actual cpu but still ARM processors are in alot of modern devices. anyways i dont "know it all" my friend who does know alot referenced this quote last night and i wanted to investigate it. and after seeing your comment at the top i wanted to recant some of what i learned. anyways all my quotes are from the RISC wiki page
bloodstainss 2 months ago
I know this probably an odd question but does anybody know what dade is drinking at the end of this scene.
deacon7414 8 months ago
lol x86 isn't RISC
RICbass78 8 months ago
I agree, RISC is good.
commodore256 10 months ago 5
How in the fuuuuuuuck, could such a shitty movie have such a sick soundtrack. Still blows my mind to this day.
suddenlyill 11 months ago
@suddenlyill
its a great film.........
whats your problem.
topbluffa1 7 months ago
@topbluffa1 Come on man. Give me a fuckin break.
suddenlyill 6 months ago
This movie is utter bullshit.
SerbianJudo 1 year ago
well, at least the music is awesome
afroisalreadyin 1 year ago
Also keep in mind that they hacked an ultra secure corporate supercomputer using shitty early 90's laptops (and modems they probably pieced together with scotch tape and popsicle sticks) from a payphone booth in Grand Central Station.
Oh early 90's. You were a fickle mistress.
holt2k 1 year ago
holy shit PCI!?!?!
You slackers using an ISA bus. rofl
StargateMunky 1 year ago 2
Hackers was such a good movie.
evergrim 1 year ago 6
@danwat1234: Vice versa. Modern x86 and x86_64 CPUs present a complex instruction set to the world, which is translated to a simpler one by the microcode. However, they still count as CISC.
Of course most other popular architectures like ARM (most smartphones and similar mobile devices), POWER (all non-portable current-gen game consoles) or MIPS (PSP, routers etc.) are RISC. Essentially, any device smaller than a PC runs on a RISC CPU. RISC did change everything - in the (huge) embedded market.
j6cubic 1 year ago 2
Wait, aren't current x86 CPUs CISC internally, but externally a RISC? I'm confused because they are relative things ... whether complex or reduced...
danwat1234 1 year ago
i love the scene.
rebelx2 1 year ago
"killer refresh rate"
Lol. don't LCD screens have passive refresh rates? don't they stay the same until some input tells the pixels to change??
hellstudios 1 year ago
Hey, I still remember when RISC architecture was going to change everything.
kayjaywhy 2 years ago
Does anybody know the song in the backgroung of this video.The music on this video.
DowJones16WB 2 years ago
Massive Attack- Protection
sk8ter582 2 years ago
Actually, the line between RISC and CISC became permanently blurred with the P6. Some people will describe recent x86.
And the PCI bus sped things up dramatically as you didn't have the ISA bottleneck dragging down performance anymore.
bingosherlock 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more. The introduction of PCI was a major breakthrough and dramatically increased speed on the PC. Which is why Apple later incorporated it into the Macs.
My problem with the movie (though I was entertained) was the visualization of their interfaces while hacking.... Flying through 'building like' blocks? Oh well, I guess they needed to give a futuristic feel for the laymen.
CyberPsyk0 2 years ago 2
@CyberPsyk0 it was so us mundanes could follow the story (used this movie in a project in collage had to do a S**TLOAD of research on it
GrayVizard 1 year ago
where can u get that ring Burn's wearing?
maverickj2k 2 years ago
@maverickj2k Spencer's sells rings like that
GrayVizard 1 year ago
@GrayVizard thanks for the info.
maverickj2k 1 year ago
Holy fuck, the screen is projecting itself on their faces.
leaveittobeavis 2 years ago 31
"P6" is microarchitecture that was used in the Pentium Pro, not released till later that year - so I guess they attempted at some research. But it wasn't RISC and never made it to any laptop...
ZilogJones 2 years ago
P6 was also used for Pentium II + III though, which did end up in laptops. P6 also started the muddying of CISC/RISC in x86.
bingosherlock 2 years ago
Lemme make a GUI in VisualBasic, see if I can trace an IP address.
georgehwbush 2 years ago 10
IT HAS A KILLER REFRESH RATE
oldhatrs25 2 years ago 52
@oldhatrs25 haha 10hz woah!
Lundt93 1 year ago
Yes, PCI did matter back then, as opposed to the slower, clunky and outdated ISA slots. Laptops at the time were extremely underpowered and difficult to handle. Also, RISC architecture is still the baseline for other processors such as the ARM and MIPS processors, which use simplistic instructions compared to the x86 architecture which is slow and clunky. Not to mention that the MIPS and ARM processors are used in major embedded computing, such as the PS2 and Nintendo DS respectively. ね
darkfoxfurre 2 years ago 3
Dude, ISA slots were the shit!
georgehwbush 2 years ago
Angelina Jolie will always be hotter Megan Fox. Plus this movie proves she could pull off an intelligent role as a opposed to playing a sex object. That's all Megan has shown she can play. There's no real purpose for her presence in the Transformer movies.
racl101 2 years ago 7
wow, generation cliff
KennYA51 2 years ago
whats the song playing in the background?
xanibars 2 years ago
massive attack/tracey thorn. protection
tungoSS 2 years ago
whats the song in the background?
xanibars 2 years ago
HACK THE PLANET!!!
myHEADisAtv 2 years ago 3
Mess With The Best, Die Like The Rest
SamWhinchester 3 years ago 2
HACK THE PLANET!!!
1987lambofgod 3 years ago 6
HAWTness!
toyzruskid 3 years ago
lall
RISC is still used by big companies for some mainframes but besides that...game consoles. a high school student prob wrote the dialog for this movie.
im glad my monitor doesnt project the image onto my face D-:
clintdub1 3 years ago
?? this movie came out in 1995 genius.
1987lambofgod 3 years ago
Dade seems to have some trouble getting the syntax of his commands right, as the terminal appears to repeatedly spit at him "Valid command line switches:" for most things he tries.
He also finds a "Generic ARCNET driver". Whoa, the machine is truly amazing! We all know how ARCNET completely triumphed over Ethernet, just like how RISC obliterated x86.
0bfuscat3d 3 years ago 3