the Greens are an idiotic, racist party who blocked the Emissions Trading Scheme back in 2009. If there is any party i WOULDN'T vote for, it is the Greens
l always avoided viewing your ideologies as a conspiracy. But Gillard's socialist background changes my mind. Her paper ''greening the red'' lists 2 things which are out right conspiracy. She called for totalitarian control through environmental activism and return of religions which ''respect'' nature.
That is an out right conspiracy and it has been copied many time by many people. Concensus is a nice word for domination.
@begsinOZ we should all vote for the coalition and give all our funding only to the banks and the miners so that we all can keep a better economic future for our children, fuck wasteful spending on infestructure, we should be focusing on national freedom so that there is a future. seriously these fuckers have never even heard of christian spirit!
Nuclear Power is the second safest energy source in the world. Why are the Greens supporting Wind Power, such a vile energy source slaughtering birds and hurting our poor farmers health, when Nuclear Power is so much safer and better?
...screw a country with the greens in charge!!! if this space muffin EVER gets to be pm, im giving up on australia...hmm maybe ill go to texas, they have heaps of guns :D
My point remains, that the more a woman knows about the truth of her pregnancy the less ammunition your side has. If your have to rely on lies than something's wrong. It was wrong of you to say that it's just like removiing a tooth or just tissue for all those years. It was wrong of you not to acknowledge that there's a beating heart you are stopping. It is wrong of you to block ultra sounds at abortion clinics to hide the truth. Wrong that it's "your body" when cleary there are 2.
"...in the next few decades this pro life attitude will fade even more"
and yet in the last couple of decades the science has more and more shown that the pro lifers were right. (it isn't just "worthless tissue" lol) Support for abortion has plummeted, steadily in the US as the science has improved. Planned parenthood's latest big cause is stopping woman from seeing their baby on ultrasound before their abortion. (90+% of woman who do see this change their mind and don't get it)
Check out true dirt on the greens, this is from there mouths...not spin...100% fact vexnews.com/news/10566/greenileaks-dissidents-spill-the-beans-on-greens-party-sleaze/
It would be nice if people focused on the advertisement, and not on the belief that the Greens are hypocritical extremists. This is the political party, not the activist group, and certainly not both rolled into one, as some of the comments seem to imply.
"This is the political party, not the activist group, and certainly not both rolled into one..."
That's rubbish! It's all about values, and the values of the political party are not only identical to the rioting anti-globalist non-thinking "useful idiots", but dependant on those constituents. You think that if you put a suit on that changes how they think or view the world? If you value liberty at all you would never vote green. "Green on the outside Red on the inside" is truth.
Tassie is a lesson of what will happen to many of Australia's vital industries if the Greens gain control. When Bob Brown and his commissars talk all the comrades go dreamy and smile in nostalgic blissful reminiscence.
@afrattner2 I have also been blocked 2 times and my comments removed for opposing the Greens views. This is a disgrace and a blight on our democratic right to free speech.
Greens credibility is ZERO, there corruption ABSOLUTE, there morality and ethics NON-EXISTENT. Voters who enjoy civil liberty beware--The Greens don't believe in something bigger than themselves.
It is part of the great experiment (started by the US) of trying to see how autonomous the individual can be from the State. It is about individual liberty, which starts with the right to own land. Its about lots of stuff, but Liberty is paramount. After that then you focus on equality of outcome. If you prioritize egalitarianism over Liberty you'll lose both eventually.
"The bigger the government the smaller the citizen"
(quoted from probins01) "They support open access to pornography for all"
And why not? I'm an Adult, I can make up my own mind what I will and won't view. If I want to sit at my computer, & look at some tits n arse, as an Adult why shouldn't I have that right without government interference. So long as noone's being hurt, & all persons involved are able to give full consent, what I do in the privacy of my own home, or my sex life, is nobody else's business - least of all the Government's.
I wish all you guchi socialists and hypocrits that support the GREENS would grow a brain someday and stop listening to your daily dose of propaganda from your GREEN heroes.
@992Mystic Im pro USA and Isreal. No idea where you got the conspiracy theory idea from. i actually like One Nation apart from their indigenous policies, everything else from them is common sense.
i support a cleaner greener enviroment with a small Australi as opposed to Rudd's big Australia.
30 thousand migrants per annum , which is actually what the Greens support.
a vote for the greens means more chances of Australia ending up as a pile of crap, anyway all those greens arnt greens they use electricity and other stuff like cars and all that.
My point is a recession or depression is probably a positive as far as reducing our use of resources, the only thing that trumps that, is sending the country bankrupt, I guess I've now answered my own question.
The Greens have admitted to accepting "donations" from Union officials on this election. The same election they suddenly did a preference deal with the Labor party. Can you people really look yourselves in the mirror and continue to follow the anti-major party Greens after they abandoned their ideals at the sight of Union money??
The Greens have admitted to accepting "donations" from Union officials on this election. The same election they suddenly did a preference deal with the Labor party. Can you people really look yourselves in the mirror and continue to follow the anti-major party Greens after they abandoned their ideals at the sight of Union money?
Well Bob clearly doesn't like using resources or growing the economy, so why would he care about a recession. I would have thought the Greens would welcome a recession or depression, where there's next to no economic activity. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bob sounds a little insincere when using the argument of saving us from a recession. In Bob's lingo anyone who produces anything is exploiting the environment, anyone who consumes electricity is a polluter.
A vote for the greens in the senate isn’t a vote against big party dominance; green and labor have basically formed an unofficial coalition with labor, a vote for the greens in the senate is a vote for a big party dominance with labor.
I commend the Greens on opposing censorship of the internet, but without power there's no internet. So isn't a 'no worries about baseload power' policy internet censorship. Power blackouts are the ultimate in internet censorship.
@992Mystic Exactly my point, most people have been swayed because they are sheep who refuse to think for themselves. They take the word of amoral fools like civil libertarians and the Greens for gospel, then it becomes 'societies norm'. Democracy, as I've said elsewhere in these posts, by its truest definition, is a lynch mob. It is a dud and far from being the most honest and good form of government. If you believe otherwise, you're burying your head in the sand.
Sad and tired argument. What you're really saying is because a lot of people CHOOSE to make BAD PERSONAL DECISIONS, society MUST allow them to kill their unborn children. Now that makes a lot of sense...NOT! And don't bring out the incest and rape card, because Australian statistics show clearly that pregnancies from incest & rape account for a tiny amount of abortions, and so-called medical reasons are so easily faked it's not funny. People must make good choices or live with it!
@SporedumNews See my reply to mystic. Then look at Lee Rhiannon's own website for the quote. She does not differentiate on any category of 'non-violent erotica'. Therefore by omission she's saying that child porn and bestiality are ok for general sale to the public. I do read policies, then I listen carefully to what pollies say - and don't say. The Greens are still morally bankrupt!
@probins01 they are not morally bankrupt - they just represent different views to what you do.
If you want to vote Family First this election then fine, you have every right to! Just bear in mind that Steve Fielding got in on only (around) 2% of the primary vote in 2004 - his is a smaller minority.
@probins01 (quote) "She does not differentiate on any category of 'non-violent erotica'. Therefore by omission she's saying that child porn and bestiality are ok "
No, she's talking about 'Non Violent Erotica', that automatically excludes Child Porn and Bestiality from her statement. Or do you believe that Child Porn and Bestiality should be called or considered 'Non Violent'? Because I sure as hell don't.
@probins01 Sorry, was that in response to my comment regarding Non Violent Erotica? If you believe that Ms Rhiannon was including Child Porn & Beastiality under the heading of 'Non Violent Erotica' does that mean that you do not consider either of those despicable acts to actually be violent? Because I certainly believe both to be acts of violence, & I'm sure Ms Rhiannon does too; hence neither being included under the umbrella of 'Non Violent Erotica'.
@ceke72 Depends on your view of violence I guess. To me, violence is what medicine classes as trauma, such as gouging, stabbing, crushing etc. Therefore paedophilia and bestiality most definitely fall under the category of non-violence. The point of my argument is solely that Ms Rhiannon did not exclude these forms of porn, therefore she tacitly approved of them. That's the reality of politics. Like it or lump it.
Not my fault if over 60% of the population have allowed themselves to be misinformed by civil libertarians with no moral fibre. If you choose to support the murder of unborn children, you are the only one who must answer for that. I have a clear conscience. You are a fool.
@probins01 In my early 20's, I had to have an abortion on medical grounds. The fetus stopped developing properly @ 6 wks, & my body began to reject the Pregnancy; making me violently, & dangerously ill. I should have miscarried, for some reason I didn't. If I had continued with the Pregnancy, & gone to term, my child would not have survived as it was, & my life would have been in very real danger. Are you saying women like me should be denied access to a medical procedure that saves their life?
@ceke72 No I'm not, and don't presume to put words in my mouth, but you are a tiny minority among all those who obtain abortions on fraudulent grounds. Look at the statistics and analyze them with an open mind. Most people obtain an abortion for convenience or because a baby wouldn't fit with their lifestyle. Grow up.
@probins01 Grow up? I'm 37, geez don't age me too fast just yet *lol* I appreciate that you're not opposed to abortions on medical grounds to save the life of the mother. However, I also support a woman's right to choose, no matter what the circumstances. So let's just agree to disagree. I doubt either one of us is going to manage change the other's stance on the issue via YouTube comments.
They support open access to pornography for all. Lee Rhiannon, yesterday. She did not draw a line between pornography of any sort, meaning anything goes for the Greens. Child porn, bestiality...anything! Any politician worth their pay knows how to draw the line. She didn't. Get over it.
Yeah and aliens are coming down from the sky right now.
Come to think of it perhaps communism isnt such a bad idea... oh I realise capitalism is just the best system look around you read the papers GFC Depression global warming Oil wars oops Gulf wars starvation homelessness drug addiction consumerism yep just the best system
I fish... But I mostly catch and release and I only ever keep enough fish to feed myself and my family. I believe that we need to protect Australia's marine environment and I reckon we've got to limit commercial fishing enterprises, especially prawn trawlers, which kill everything in their wake and rip up the sea bed... But I don't want to see recreational fishing banned altogether. Where's the middle ground?
@nickisnow1 I wouldn't want the Liberals controlling the senate either.
Why the Greens nonsensically sided with them on the ETS is still beyond me, we could have it in place right now and be leading the world (small step as it will be)
@alSation81 It's important to remember that the ETS would have created a market in trading carbon, it would have commoditised pollution, giving billions in compensation to polluters... The Greens would never support such a thing...
Instead, they proposed a Carbon Tax, simply tax polluters for emitting CO2 to discourage it and encourage the development of better, more advanced, renewable sources of energy...
Who voted the carbon tax down? Both Liberal and Labor. That was the killer block.
@MrAntiFarLeft The Greens are neither left nor right, but straight ahead! We need to move forwards and an ETS would have moved us backwards in the long term. The only way forwards on mitigating pollution is a carbon tax. Tax polluters and use the revenue to fund growth in the renewable energy industry. Any company still in the fossil fuel game is blind, you've just got to be transitioning to renewables from a strictly economic sense.
Unfortunately for the first time in decades I will probably vote informal, because there is no candidate or party that currently deserves my valuable vote, and I'm sick to death of voting for 'the least worst option.' The Greens have reasonable - not good - environmental policies. A carbon tax or trading scheme allows polluters to keep on polluting while paying extra for the privilege, then passing on the cost to consumers. Absolute BS. And they're morally bankrupt, so 'NO DEAL!'
more new coal already comes at cost of arable farmland/ clean water supply (to put it very gently); gas isn't much different. for these reasons _alone_ it costs a fortune to do nothing.
good farmers provide all sorts of enviro services besides CO2 sequestration via soil which the greens were onto years ago. not to mention soil health provides the service of synthetic chemical degradation, determines continuing fertility of the land & is a cornerstone of basic ecological integrity
A tax on carbon, as I said, is a tax on consumers. It will do NOTHING to reduce CO2!
If you want to reduce pollution & greenhouse gases, you must legislate to reduce CO2 emissions by industry. Period! A massive increase in renewable energy of ALL types is the best way to guarantee baseload as much as possible, while reducing dependence on fossil fuels. Put coal out of business! And the Greens are STILL morally bankrupt!
how you propose to disappear all the coal overnight and magically conjure renewable energy? with the army? might have to start your own party for that one.
better still, vote informal and get more liblabs.
we used to have a world class CSIRO till Howard fucked it up and installed a Rio Tinto employee as "Chief Scientist" (he still retained his posy at Rio ). Long story short: Chief ushered in all sorts of BigCoal kissing shit then left. CSIRO still a weak $ weakened group.
the Chief Scientist thing was just an obvious tip of Howard's "reforms". Labor has left most of it in a mess.
Noone owns the Greens.
FFS did you not make any friends in school in case they were really mafia or aliens? Of course you didn't.
If you can't get my point by now then there is no point continuing.
Get your head out of your arse cause you sound like a decent person that could contribute to this land that is getting overrun by backward sellout retards.
@drpuki Oh I made plenty of friends, but most of them turned out to be sheep, sellouts and retards. Fact: 2% of people truly think; 3% of people think they think, & 95% of people would rather die than truly think. That's how LibLab survives.
abortion: i don't like it, but would you rather backyard coathanger jobs? that's the immediate alternative.
attitudes to life are reflected all through society; only a fool with a pretend point to score could separate abortion. what about bombing possibly 1MILLION civilians purely for money and power (Iraq alone)?
the proposed internet filter is not limited to porn- (secret) blacklist would be decided by govt & porn bit won't work..
@drpuki I would rather neither, but both exist. I HATE the US invasion of Iraq, totally for oil & Dick Cheney's bank account! Big brother is alive and well in LibLab land with control via any means possible, not just internet filters. On these points we agree! Ain't life grand?
By your anti-Liberal comments you mistake me for a Liberal supporter. I most definitely am not! It's an insult! I am not stupid regarding renewable energy either, but the only real way to get movement on renewable energy is to legislate for it, which neither of the majors are doing. The Greens may well legislate for it, but they are STILL morally bankrupt!
In my opinion they are most definitely morally bankrupt. They support abortion on demand and gay marriage. They support gay adoption, IVF and free pornography, incl. child porn (they don't draw a line). They support injecting rooms. It would take pages to describe why I disagree, and we're not allowed pages on YouTube, so just take it at that. I disagree with all those ideals. Like it or lump it, that is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
@probins01 yes you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to ignore the facts in favor of slander!
As SporedumNews said, you obviously haven't read any policy documents. I pay close attention to the policies of any party, not what other parties and lobby groups have to say. Try looking at party websites, and if that's too much, look on Wikipedia!
Look at Lee Rhiannon's own website as I did - YouTube won't let me paste the URL - there is no distinction in her own statement on 'non-violent erotica'! Anything goes for the Greens! She would allow child porn and bestiality, as it is non-violent. She did not differentiate or qualify her statement. No slander, just facts! Her words, not mine. Get your facts straight before you accuse me, fool!
@probins01 using that as the platform fromwhich to base a statement that "anything goes" is just pathetic!
And I checked out her site:"A filter is not the answer for concerned families... it will do little to prevent the dissemination of child pornography, which is mostly done via file sharing not on websites." I couldn't find what you were talking of on there, so I can only assume that you've misinterpreted something!
And don't call me a fool - have some restraint and don't degrade yourself.
@kuliwil Please tell ALL politicians they're pathetic, including the Greens, who are ever so keen to pick up on the slightest mismanagement of any statement by an opponent to make a case against them. I merely hold the Greens to their own political standard. If you don't like it, get out of politics! And if you don't believe that, you are a fool indeed. At least I have the courage to put my name to my posts, not like most of you hiding behind pseudonyms. Stand up for what you believe in!
@probins01 what on earth are you saying mate!? You are holding YOUR own popularised stereotype of politicians against me?
Most if not all parties diss other parties, I never said otherwise. You are welcome to diss the Greens just don't sensationalise or lie about their policies!
We should not have to name out posts - our argument is the same regardless of the name. I do not want to expand my ego to such an extent as to waste characters on signing my name.
@kuliwil It's not popularised at all. You judge me incorrectly. I've seen it from the inside of politics. I know far more about it than you'll probably ever want to know. I have the guts to stand up for what I believe. I'm not lying either. I only speak about their published policies and statements. Take them to their logical conclusion if you're willing or able. But I doubt it. You just want to keep your green glasses on. If you have personal courage you won't hide behind a pseudonym.
Get off ur high horse mate, I DO know what I'm talking about.I'd tell you my educationRE:Politics but I don't see why I should have to-the Greens' policies r the same wither way
I am not hiding behind a pseudonym-I just don't see why I should give some cynical stranger my name.
I'm not going2bother arguing with u-I have far better things2do than argue with some equally faceless guy who is making arguments based off misinterpreted policy announcements!
@kuliwil Nothing is misinterpreted in politics. If you don't know that then you seriously are just a young inexperienced university trained know-it-all with no real life experience in anything. Until you've been on the coal face for at least 20 years buddy, don't even try to tell me what your so-called 'experience' is.
@probins01 Oh of course, I never suggested you weren't entitled to your opinion, I am glad now that you outlined why you say that the greens are 'morally bankrupt'.
Is the general Australian population 'morally bankrupt' in your opinion? The vast majority of Australians support the ideal of marriage equality and an end to discrimination against same-sex couples including adoption rights.
@michaeljtavares Yes they are...by their own choice, and no...it doesn't make them right just because they're 'the majority' and 'this is a democracy'. If you want the truest definition of a democracy, look up 'lynch mob'. Most of society are blind fools who choose to allow someone else to do their thinking. I am not one of them.
What like "Climategate" or the scandolous "East Anglia email leak"?? Please, take your head out of the sand, honestly people like you only function to consume and reproduce, you contribute nothing to this country, i only hope youre still alive to see the Earth burn when climate change snowballs uncontrollably.
You are the one with the head in the sand! it's obvious you do not care for our planet,
all of you global warming alarmist nuts cannot see the wood for the trees, Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant! All plant life needs Carbon dioxide to survive, and the trees give back oxygen, that's how the science has always been and that how it really works!
The real atmospheric pollutants are Carbon Monoxide and other noxious gases that are spewed into our air every day. Yet no one mentions that!
You're right that trees need CO2. They need it. I think the issue is the balance of trees producing oxygen and humans producing CO2. With less and less trees, more and more people, and more and more people producing CO2, the balance is upset with increasing levels of CO2 in our atmosphere. CO2 helps trap heat in our atmosphere etc
On a more basic level, this video isn't about climate change, it's about balance in the senate and proper scrutiny given to the two major parties.
I agree with you too, but my main issue is that the public really has no idea who is behind the greens and that is my fear if they get control of the senate. I think the greens were quite concerned about the environment originally , but they have been hijacked by huge business interests from overseas as well as here in Australia.Sadly, they escape scrutiny and keep calling for a Carbon Tax and Goldman Sachs are pushing for that too! type in carbon fraud into Google and have a look.
@SuperNikmik of course any big mob will try to coopt a movement for power such as GS is doing, especially one that threatens it.
roman catholicism, mtv, the interwebs..
big business? bob did labor's job for john "i support the biggest of the biggest business" howard's entire reign in providing actual senate opposition AND drafting policy-the one party with an excellent track record on standing up for the people & have some actual, decent, real humans among them
@SuperNikmik btw if you're into conspiracies, look at where all lobbying against some kind of addressing of global warming comes from- can't get much bigger than fox news and oil.
don't you think they could produce something more convincing over here than Ian Plimer and Lord Monkton? FFS Ian Plimer's (a geologist who owns shares in & contracts to mining cos) "weighty tome" called "Heaven And Earth" quotes and references George Pell as some kind of intellectual authority.
Non Sequitir? Your argument does not follow. Where exactly can you source that I "obviously do not care for the planet"? Also i never said Co2 is a pollutant, as you said it is very much the opposite, but it also contains a property that TRAPS HEAT.
This would be totally cool except the ratio disparity is getting smaller and smaller, which if left continuing would result predominantly in longer droughts, ice cap floods and mass fish extinction because of the heated oceans.
I'm not sure about the greens seats up, coalition seats down bit. Are we really going to be taking seats of the coalition, i thought it was the labor party.
@johnwrw In 2007 in Tasmania, the seats went 3 ALP, 1 GRN and 2 LIB, with the third ALP senator being elected from Bob's preferences. If the GRNs win in the ACT, that will also be at the expense of the LIBs.
@johnwrw Well in ACT, the Labor Senator will be near impossible to knock off but the Liberal barely made the quota, in Victoria the Greens are expected to knock off Senator Fielding (Gods representative to Parliament) and we've got an okay chance of knocking off a Senator in NSW, QLD, SA. The more likely wins are mostly Liberal hold but I guess it's possible that some Labor folk would lose a seat too. The Senate preferences from Labor would probably make Liberal loss more likely over a Labor one
@TS9LK well, yeah, i was talking to my mother, who is a lot more knowledgable than me in these sort of things, it seems that we'll take seats from labor, and labor could take seats from the libs, leading to a net balance of us taking seats from the libs.
It amazes me that theres one person anywhere that thinks the greens are worth more than a pinch of shit
berettasp 2 months ago
Vote if you dont want your planet earth become a rock planet with terrible air and water
Marios867 3 months ago
the Greens are an idiotic, racist party who blocked the Emissions Trading Scheme back in 2009. If there is any party i WOULDN'T vote for, it is the Greens
schwartzy08 5 months ago
l think l'm being to kind to you nut cases....
l always avoided viewing your ideologies as a conspiracy. But Gillard's socialist background changes my mind. Her paper ''greening the red'' lists 2 things which are out right conspiracy. She called for totalitarian control through environmental activism and return of religions which ''respect'' nature.
That is an out right conspiracy and it has been copied many time by many people. Concensus is a nice word for domination.
MRMILO57 7 months ago
GO THE GREENS!! THEY SUPPORT GAYS!! Wait hang on Bob brown ain't ever at the mardi-gras fucking poofter!
satojinnthehero 7 months ago
U turds had ya shot and u fucked it. Looking forward to your demise and your labor lackies.
begsinOZ 7 months ago
@begsinOZ we should all vote for the coalition and give all our funding only to the banks and the miners so that we all can keep a better economic future for our children, fuck wasteful spending on infestructure, we should be focusing on national freedom so that there is a future. seriously these fuckers have never even heard of christian spirit!
windwaker0rules 5 months ago
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SHUT UP FAGGOT
helpme555 8 months ago
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Nuclear Power is the second safest energy source in the world. Why are the Greens supporting Wind Power, such a vile energy source slaughtering birds and hurting our poor farmers health, when Nuclear Power is so much safer and better?
MarsMoonEuropa 11 months ago
...screw a country with the greens in charge!!! if this space muffin EVER gets to be pm, im giving up on australia...hmm maybe ill go to texas, they have heaps of guns :D
mummysez1mspecial 11 months ago
@mummysez1mspecial
I'll be happy to see you go.
david40686 9 months ago
Fucking oath I'm voting for the greens again.. Labor and the Coalition have lost the plot, neither of them can get anything done for this country.
ignuz 1 year ago
Vote green if you want more expensive petrol,food,water,services,gas and electricity(carbon tax) for a non-existent problem, "global warming" .
DTRUTHbTOLD 1 year ago 11
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Greens are really just fascists reborn. A criminal enterprise cloaked in parliamentary robes.
thomasr999 1 year ago
Greens are really just fascists reborn. A criminal enterprise cloaked in parliamentary robes.
thomasr999 1 year ago
@zpunter Get off the weed, grow a brain and learn to think for yourself. Unless of course you actually like the Soviet system?
PS..Shouldnt the Greens really be called the Gay Party?
bunny72805 1 year ago
@992Mystic
My point remains, that the more a woman knows about the truth of her pregnancy the less ammunition your side has. If your have to rely on lies than something's wrong. It was wrong of you to say that it's just like removiing a tooth or just tissue for all those years. It was wrong of you not to acknowledge that there's a beating heart you are stopping. It is wrong of you to block ultra sounds at abortion clinics to hide the truth. Wrong that it's "your body" when cleary there are 2.
George08ful 1 year ago
@992Mystic
"...in the next few decades this pro life attitude will fade even more"
and yet in the last couple of decades the science has more and more shown that the pro lifers were right. (it isn't just "worthless tissue" lol) Support for abortion has plummeted, steadily in the US as the science has improved. Planned parenthood's latest big cause is stopping woman from seeing their baby on ultrasound before their abortion. (90+% of woman who do see this change their mind and don't get it)
George08ful 1 year ago
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Check out true dirt on the greens, this is from there mouths...not spin...100% fact vexnews.com/news/10566/greenileaks-dissidents-spill-the-beans-on-greens-party-sleaze/
add the 3w's at the front of it
Be an Aussie not a Commie
afrattner3 1 year ago
It would be nice if people focused on the advertisement, and not on the belief that the Greens are hypocritical extremists. This is the political party, not the activist group, and certainly not both rolled into one, as some of the comments seem to imply.
rodentratman 1 year ago
@rodentratman
"This is the political party, not the activist group, and certainly not both rolled into one..."
That's rubbish! It's all about values, and the values of the political party are not only identical to the rioting anti-globalist non-thinking "useful idiots", but dependant on those constituents. You think that if you put a suit on that changes how they think or view the world? If you value liberty at all you would never vote green. "Green on the outside Red on the inside" is truth.
George08ful 1 year ago
Tassie is a lesson of what will happen to many of Australia's vital industries if the Greens gain control. When Bob Brown and his commissars talk all the comrades go dreamy and smile in nostalgic blissful reminiscence.
bunny72805 1 year ago
@google... Refrain your foul mouth an clarify?
afrattner2 1 year ago
@992Mystic Fuck yea!
googleeaterwoot 1 year ago
i have been blocked from commenting on any greens videos.
I have not abused anyone or made false claims, i have just stated facts which can backed up.
This is what the greens do to anyone who opposes them, they are wolfs in sheeps clothing.
If they do this in such a minor matter, what is to come.
afrattner2 1 year ago
@afrattner2 I have also been blocked 2 times and my comments removed for opposing the Greens views. This is a disgrace and a blight on our democratic right to free speech.
Greens credibility is ZERO, there corruption ABSOLUTE, there morality and ethics NON-EXISTENT. Voters who enjoy civil liberty beware--The Greens don't believe in something bigger than themselves.
bunny72805 1 year ago
If you like shooting, fishing, 4WDing, eating food and using electricity then think long and hard before u vote for GREEN policies.
nibblez1222 1 year ago
Be true blue and dont vote greens, they threaten our freedom and our australian way of life.
Be a aussie, Not a commie
afrattner 1 year ago
@afrattner your an idiot. Just what is Australian?
jazrob86 1 year ago
@jazrob86
"Just what is Australian?"
It is part of the great experiment (started by the US) of trying to see how autonomous the individual can be from the State. It is about individual liberty, which starts with the right to own land. Its about lots of stuff, but Liberty is paramount. After that then you focus on equality of outcome. If you prioritize egalitarianism over Liberty you'll lose both eventually.
"The bigger the government the smaller the citizen"
Dennis Prager
George08ful 1 year ago
(quoted from probins01) "They support open access to pornography for all"
And why not? I'm an Adult, I can make up my own mind what I will and won't view. If I want to sit at my computer, & look at some tits n arse, as an Adult why shouldn't I have that right without government interference. So long as noone's being hurt, & all persons involved are able to give full consent, what I do in the privacy of my own home, or my sex life, is nobody else's business - least of all the Government's.
ceke72 1 year ago 6
@992Mystic Whatever'll do it :)
doublehanded 1 year ago
I wish all you guchi socialists and hypocrits that support the GREENS would grow a brain someday and stop listening to your daily dose of propaganda from your GREEN heroes.
nibblez1222 1 year ago
@992Mystic Im pro USA and Isreal. No idea where you got the conspiracy theory idea from. i actually like One Nation apart from their indigenous policies, everything else from them is common sense.
i support a cleaner greener enviroment with a small Australi as opposed to Rudd's big Australia.
30 thousand migrants per annum , which is actually what the Greens support.
MrAntiFarLeft 1 year ago
@992Mystic of course leftist parties dont support Isreal, because they support Islam ( the far right )
Liberalism is a mental disorder - Dr.Michael Savage
Refer to my channel for just how ridiculous you are with that Nazi jibe.
MrAntiFarLeft 1 year ago
a vote for the greens means more chances of Australia ending up as a pile of crap, anyway all those greens arnt greens they use electricity and other stuff like cars and all that.
They r just hypocrites
A130Guship 1 year ago
@992Mystic
My point is a recession or depression is probably a positive as far as reducing our use of resources, the only thing that trumps that, is sending the country bankrupt, I guess I've now answered my own question.
NoCarbonTax 1 year ago
The Greens have admitted to accepting "donations" from Union officials on this election. The same election they suddenly did a preference deal with the Labor party. Can you people really look yourselves in the mirror and continue to follow the anti-major party Greens after they abandoned their ideals at the sight of Union money??
desalage 1 year ago
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The Greens have admitted to accepting "donations" from Union officials on this election. The same election they suddenly did a preference deal with the Labor party. Can you people really look yourselves in the mirror and continue to follow the anti-major party Greens after they abandoned their ideals at the sight of Union money?
desalage 1 year ago
Well Bob clearly doesn't like using resources or growing the economy, so why would he care about a recession. I would have thought the Greens would welcome a recession or depression, where there's next to no economic activity. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bob sounds a little insincere when using the argument of saving us from a recession. In Bob's lingo anyone who produces anything is exploiting the environment, anyone who consumes electricity is a polluter.
NoCarbonTax 1 year ago
A vote for the greens in the senate isn’t a vote against big party dominance; green and labor have basically formed an unofficial coalition with labor, a vote for the greens in the senate is a vote for a big party dominance with labor.
hvhsvahgcge2 1 year ago 2
@hvhsvahgcge2 Yer that's why there are issues and document 'leaks' within both labor and greens at the moment... Ignorance 'ey!
lakersboy241 1 year ago
I commend the Greens on opposing censorship of the internet, but without power there's no internet. So isn't a 'no worries about baseload power' policy internet censorship. Power blackouts are the ultimate in internet censorship.
NoCarbonTax 1 year ago
good ad Bob, got my vote.
The Greens should really look at using the ad that was featured on Gruen Nation on 11 August, it was brilliant.
Jarrah31 1 year ago
@Jarrah31 They can't use it. Read the greens site to explain why.
lakersboy241 1 year ago
You have my vote!!
gerjaison 1 year ago
@992Mystic So I guess that my many years experience and my university degree counts both ways eh?
probins01 1 year ago
@992Mystic Exactly my point, most people have been swayed because they are sheep who refuse to think for themselves. They take the word of amoral fools like civil libertarians and the Greens for gospel, then it becomes 'societies norm'. Democracy, as I've said elsewhere in these posts, by its truest definition, is a lynch mob. It is a dud and far from being the most honest and good form of government. If you believe otherwise, you're burying your head in the sand.
probins01 1 year ago
@992Mystic
Sad and tired argument. What you're really saying is because a lot of people CHOOSE to make BAD PERSONAL DECISIONS, society MUST allow them to kill their unborn children. Now that makes a lot of sense...NOT! And don't bring out the incest and rape card, because Australian statistics show clearly that pregnancies from incest & rape account for a tiny amount of abortions, and so-called medical reasons are so easily faked it's not funny. People must make good choices or live with it!
probins01 1 year ago
@SporedumNews ah okay, thank you for pasting that in :)
Yeah, what I also take from that is that there should be clearer definitions of what is actually illegal. Reasonable entirely.
Thank you SporedumNews!
kuliwil 1 year ago
@SporedumNews Sorry, that reply was to kuliwil, and YouTube won't let me paste the URL.
probins01 1 year ago
@SporedumNews See my reply to mystic. Then look at Lee Rhiannon's own website for the quote. She does not differentiate on any category of 'non-violent erotica'. Therefore by omission she's saying that child porn and bestiality are ok for general sale to the public. I do read policies, then I listen carefully to what pollies say - and don't say. The Greens are still morally bankrupt!
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 they are not morally bankrupt - they just represent different views to what you do.
If you want to vote Family First this election then fine, you have every right to! Just bear in mind that Steve Fielding got in on only (around) 2% of the primary vote in 2004 - his is a smaller minority.
kuliwil 1 year ago
@probins01 (quote) "She does not differentiate on any category of 'non-violent erotica'. Therefore by omission she's saying that child porn and bestiality are ok "
No, she's talking about 'Non Violent Erotica', that automatically excludes Child Porn and Bestiality from her statement. Or do you believe that Child Porn and Bestiality should be called or considered 'Non Violent'? Because I sure as hell don't.
ceke72 1 year ago
@ceke72 are you really that naive? You obviously understand NOTHING about the realities of politics.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 Sorry, was that in response to my comment regarding Non Violent Erotica? If you believe that Ms Rhiannon was including Child Porn & Beastiality under the heading of 'Non Violent Erotica' does that mean that you do not consider either of those despicable acts to actually be violent? Because I certainly believe both to be acts of violence, & I'm sure Ms Rhiannon does too; hence neither being included under the umbrella of 'Non Violent Erotica'.
ceke72 1 year ago
@ceke72 Depends on your view of violence I guess. To me, violence is what medicine classes as trauma, such as gouging, stabbing, crushing etc. Therefore paedophilia and bestiality most definitely fall under the category of non-violence. The point of my argument is solely that Ms Rhiannon did not exclude these forms of porn, therefore she tacitly approved of them. That's the reality of politics. Like it or lump it.
probins01 1 year ago
@992Mystic
Not my fault if over 60% of the population have allowed themselves to be misinformed by civil libertarians with no moral fibre. If you choose to support the murder of unborn children, you are the only one who must answer for that. I have a clear conscience. You are a fool.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 In my early 20's, I had to have an abortion on medical grounds. The fetus stopped developing properly @ 6 wks, & my body began to reject the Pregnancy; making me violently, & dangerously ill. I should have miscarried, for some reason I didn't. If I had continued with the Pregnancy, & gone to term, my child would not have survived as it was, & my life would have been in very real danger. Are you saying women like me should be denied access to a medical procedure that saves their life?
ceke72 1 year ago
@ceke72 No I'm not, and don't presume to put words in my mouth, but you are a tiny minority among all those who obtain abortions on fraudulent grounds. Look at the statistics and analyze them with an open mind. Most people obtain an abortion for convenience or because a baby wouldn't fit with their lifestyle. Grow up.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 Grow up? I'm 37, geez don't age me too fast just yet *lol* I appreciate that you're not opposed to abortions on medical grounds to save the life of the mother. However, I also support a woman's right to choose, no matter what the circumstances. So let's just agree to disagree. I doubt either one of us is going to manage change the other's stance on the issue via YouTube comments.
ceke72 1 year ago
@SporedumNews
They support open access to pornography for all. Lee Rhiannon, yesterday. She did not draw a line between pornography of any sort, meaning anything goes for the Greens. Child porn, bestiality...anything! Any politician worth their pay knows how to draw the line. She didn't. Get over it.
probins01 1 year ago
Go the Greens! :)
Simone82 1 year ago
Greens will take away everything we hold dear. They are just a front for the communist party.
MrBaadman 1 year ago
@MrBaadman
Yeah and aliens are coming down from the sky right now.
Come to think of it perhaps communism isnt such a bad idea... oh I realise capitalism is just the best system look around you read the papers GFC Depression global warming Oil wars oops Gulf wars starvation homelessness drug addiction consumerism yep just the best system
annetix 1 year ago 2
this guy is a complete DILL
meakd 1 year ago
yeah.. my arse Ban all outdoor shit Thats wat they will do no fishing no 4wd driving have to have hybrids God they will FUCK US UP
A130Guship 1 year ago
Labor really disgusts me, thats my reason to vote green.
austzombie 1 year ago
I fish... But I mostly catch and release and I only ever keep enough fish to feed myself and my family. I believe that we need to protect Australia's marine environment and I reckon we've got to limit commercial fishing enterprises, especially prawn trawlers, which kill everything in their wake and rip up the sea bed... But I don't want to see recreational fishing banned altogether. Where's the middle ground?
CrankyWombat 1 year ago
@jasutz redneck
thereissoupinmyfly 1 year ago 4
zzz ... go into the senate so we'll have the balance of power .... um, okay.
theres no talk of what they'll actually do with that balance besides veto everything again
alSation81 1 year ago
@alSation81 The Greens will use it to pass worthwhile legislation, block insane legislation and attempt to pass brilliant legislation.
I for one don't want a radical right-wing party (Liberals) controlling my senate! Vote Green for a just and balanced senate!
nickisnow1 1 year ago 20
@nickisnow1 I wouldn't want the Liberals controlling the senate either.
Why the Greens nonsensically sided with them on the ETS is still beyond me, we could have it in place right now and be leading the world (small step as it will be)
alSation81 1 year ago
@alSation81 It's important to remember that the ETS would have created a market in trading carbon, it would have commoditised pollution, giving billions in compensation to polluters... The Greens would never support such a thing...
Instead, they proposed a Carbon Tax, simply tax polluters for emitting CO2 to discourage it and encourage the development of better, more advanced, renewable sources of energy...
Who voted the carbon tax down? Both Liberal and Labor. That was the killer block.
nickisnow1 1 year ago 3
@nickisnow1 so instead you will vote for a far left radical party....pffttt
MrAntiFarLeft 1 year ago
@MrAntiFarLeft The Greens are neither left nor right, but straight ahead! We need to move forwards and an ETS would have moved us backwards in the long term. The only way forwards on mitigating pollution is a carbon tax. Tax polluters and use the revenue to fund growth in the renewable energy industry. Any company still in the fossil fuel game is blind, you've just got to be transitioning to renewables from a strictly economic sense.
nickisnow1 1 year ago
Unfortunately for the first time in decades I will probably vote informal, because there is no candidate or party that currently deserves my valuable vote, and I'm sick to death of voting for 'the least worst option.' The Greens have reasonable - not good - environmental policies. A carbon tax or trading scheme allows polluters to keep on polluting while paying extra for the privilege, then passing on the cost to consumers. Absolute BS. And they're morally bankrupt, so 'NO DEAL!'
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01
more new coal already comes at cost of arable farmland/ clean water supply (to put it very gently); gas isn't much different. for these reasons _alone_ it costs a fortune to do nothing.
good farmers provide all sorts of enviro services besides CO2 sequestration via soil which the greens were onto years ago. not to mention soil health provides the service of synthetic chemical degradation, determines continuing fertility of the land & is a cornerstone of basic ecological integrity
drpuki 1 year ago
@drpuki
A tax on carbon, as I said, is a tax on consumers. It will do NOTHING to reduce CO2!
If you want to reduce pollution & greenhouse gases, you must legislate to reduce CO2 emissions by industry. Period! A massive increase in renewable energy of ALL types is the best way to guarantee baseload as much as possible, while reducing dependence on fossil fuels. Put coal out of business! And the Greens are STILL morally bankrupt!
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01
how you propose to disappear all the coal overnight and magically conjure renewable energy? with the army? might have to start your own party for that one.
better still, vote informal and get more liblabs.
we used to have a world class CSIRO till Howard fucked it up and installed a Rio Tinto employee as "Chief Scientist" (he still retained his posy at Rio ). Long story short: Chief ushered in all sorts of BigCoal kissing shit then left. CSIRO still a weak $ weakened group.
drpuki 1 year ago
@drpuki
the Chief Scientist thing was just an obvious tip of Howard's "reforms". Labor has left most of it in a mess.
Noone owns the Greens.
FFS did you not make any friends in school in case they were really mafia or aliens? Of course you didn't.
If you can't get my point by now then there is no point continuing.
Get your head out of your arse cause you sound like a decent person that could contribute to this land that is getting overrun by backward sellout retards.
drpuki 1 year ago
@drpuki Oh I made plenty of friends, but most of them turned out to be sheep, sellouts and retards. Fact: 2% of people truly think; 3% of people think they think, & 95% of people would rather die than truly think. That's how LibLab survives.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01
like i said, i got 2 of you mixed up, but meh.
abortion: i don't like it, but would you rather backyard coathanger jobs? that's the immediate alternative.
attitudes to life are reflected all through society; only a fool with a pretend point to score could separate abortion. what about bombing possibly 1MILLION civilians purely for money and power (Iraq alone)?
the proposed internet filter is not limited to porn- (secret) blacklist would be decided by govt & porn bit won't work..
drpuki 1 year ago
@drpuki I would rather neither, but both exist. I HATE the US invasion of Iraq, totally for oil & Dick Cheney's bank account! Big brother is alive and well in LibLab land with control via any means possible, not just internet filters. On these points we agree! Ain't life grand?
probins01 1 year ago
@drpuki
By your anti-Liberal comments you mistake me for a Liberal supporter. I most definitely am not! It's an insult! I am not stupid regarding renewable energy either, but the only real way to get movement on renewable energy is to legislate for it, which neither of the majors are doing. The Greens may well legislate for it, but they are STILL morally bankrupt!
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01
was more pointing out that they are the only main alternative to the whole direction of the liblabs ie standing for something decent other than $.
though i did get you mixed up with SuperNikmik there for a bit- sorry about that.
drpuki 1 year ago
@probins01 why do you keep saying the greens are morally bankrupt without backing up what you mean by that?
michaeljtavares 1 year ago
@michaeljtavares
In my opinion they are most definitely morally bankrupt. They support abortion on demand and gay marriage. They support gay adoption, IVF and free pornography, incl. child porn (they don't draw a line). They support injecting rooms. It would take pages to describe why I disagree, and we're not allowed pages on YouTube, so just take it at that. I disagree with all those ideals. Like it or lump it, that is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 yes you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to ignore the facts in favor of slander!
As SporedumNews said, you obviously haven't read any policy documents. I pay close attention to the policies of any party, not what other parties and lobby groups have to say. Try looking at party websites, and if that's too much, look on Wikipedia!
kuliwil 1 year ago
@kuliwil @kuliwil
Look at Lee Rhiannon's own website as I did - YouTube won't let me paste the URL - there is no distinction in her own statement on 'non-violent erotica'! Anything goes for the Greens! She would allow child porn and bestiality, as it is non-violent. She did not differentiate or qualify her statement. No slander, just facts! Her words, not mine. Get your facts straight before you accuse me, fool!
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 using that as the platform fromwhich to base a statement that "anything goes" is just pathetic!
And I checked out her site:"A filter is not the answer for concerned families... it will do little to prevent the dissemination of child pornography, which is mostly done via file sharing not on websites." I couldn't find what you were talking of on there, so I can only assume that you've misinterpreted something!
And don't call me a fool - have some restraint and don't degrade yourself.
kuliwil 1 year ago
@kuliwil Please tell ALL politicians they're pathetic, including the Greens, who are ever so keen to pick up on the slightest mismanagement of any statement by an opponent to make a case against them. I merely hold the Greens to their own political standard. If you don't like it, get out of politics! And if you don't believe that, you are a fool indeed. At least I have the courage to put my name to my posts, not like most of you hiding behind pseudonyms. Stand up for what you believe in!
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 what on earth are you saying mate!? You are holding YOUR own popularised stereotype of politicians against me?
Most if not all parties diss other parties, I never said otherwise. You are welcome to diss the Greens just don't sensationalise or lie about their policies!
We should not have to name out posts - our argument is the same regardless of the name. I do not want to expand my ego to such an extent as to waste characters on signing my name.
kuliwil 1 year ago
@kuliwil It's not popularised at all. You judge me incorrectly. I've seen it from the inside of politics. I know far more about it than you'll probably ever want to know. I have the guts to stand up for what I believe. I'm not lying either. I only speak about their published policies and statements. Take them to their logical conclusion if you're willing or able. But I doubt it. You just want to keep your green glasses on. If you have personal courage you won't hide behind a pseudonym.
probins01 1 year ago
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kuliwil 1 year ago
@probins01 From the inside eh?what position?
Get off ur high horse mate, I DO know what I'm talking about.I'd tell you my educationRE:Politics but I don't see why I should have to-the Greens' policies r the same wither way
I am not hiding behind a pseudonym-I just don't see why I should give some cynical stranger my name.
I'm not going2bother arguing with u-I have far better things2do than argue with some equally faceless guy who is making arguments based off misinterpreted policy announcements!
kuliwil 1 year ago
@kuliwil Nothing is misinterpreted in politics. If you don't know that then you seriously are just a young inexperienced university trained know-it-all with no real life experience in anything. Until you've been on the coal face for at least 20 years buddy, don't even try to tell me what your so-called 'experience' is.
probins01 1 year ago
@probins01 Oh of course, I never suggested you weren't entitled to your opinion, I am glad now that you outlined why you say that the greens are 'morally bankrupt'.
Is the general Australian population 'morally bankrupt' in your opinion? The vast majority of Australians support the ideal of marriage equality and an end to discrimination against same-sex couples including adoption rights.
michaeljtavares 1 year ago
@michaeljtavares Yes they are...by their own choice, and no...it doesn't make them right just because they're 'the majority' and 'this is a democracy'. If you want the truest definition of a democracy, look up 'lynch mob'. Most of society are blind fools who choose to allow someone else to do their thinking. I am not one of them.
probins01 1 year ago
Google 'the kyoto conspiracy' and you will never vote for the greens ever again
SuperNikmik 1 year ago
@SuperNikmik
What like "Climategate" or the scandolous "East Anglia email leak"?? Please, take your head out of the sand, honestly people like you only function to consume and reproduce, you contribute nothing to this country, i only hope youre still alive to see the Earth burn when climate change snowballs uncontrollably.
jl931 1 year ago
You are the one with the head in the sand! it's obvious you do not care for our planet,
all of you global warming alarmist nuts cannot see the wood for the trees, Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant! All plant life needs Carbon dioxide to survive, and the trees give back oxygen, that's how the science has always been and that how it really works!
The real atmospheric pollutants are Carbon Monoxide and other noxious gases that are spewed into our air every day. Yet no one mentions that!
SuperNikmik 1 year ago
@SuperNikmik
You're right that trees need CO2. They need it. I think the issue is the balance of trees producing oxygen and humans producing CO2. With less and less trees, more and more people, and more and more people producing CO2, the balance is upset with increasing levels of CO2 in our atmosphere. CO2 helps trap heat in our atmosphere etc
On a more basic level, this video isn't about climate change, it's about balance in the senate and proper scrutiny given to the two major parties.
xFENRISx 1 year ago 4
I agree with you too, but my main issue is that the public really has no idea who is behind the greens and that is my fear if they get control of the senate. I think the greens were quite concerned about the environment originally , but they have been hijacked by huge business interests from overseas as well as here in Australia.Sadly, they escape scrutiny and keep calling for a Carbon Tax and Goldman Sachs are pushing for that too! type in carbon fraud into Google and have a look.
SuperNikmik 1 year ago
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drpuki 1 year ago
@SuperNikmik of course any big mob will try to coopt a movement for power such as GS is doing, especially one that threatens it.
roman catholicism, mtv, the interwebs..
big business? bob did labor's job for john "i support the biggest of the biggest business" howard's entire reign in providing actual senate opposition AND drafting policy-the one party with an excellent track record on standing up for the people & have some actual, decent, real humans among them
but they're dangerous, right?
drpuki 1 year ago
@SuperNikmik btw if you're into conspiracies, look at where all lobbying against some kind of addressing of global warming comes from- can't get much bigger than fox news and oil.
don't you think they could produce something more convincing over here than Ian Plimer and Lord Monkton? FFS Ian Plimer's (a geologist who owns shares in & contracts to mining cos) "weighty tome" called "Heaven And Earth" quotes and references George Pell as some kind of intellectual authority.
Jebus save me!
drpuki 1 year ago
@SuperNikmik
Non Sequitir? Your argument does not follow. Where exactly can you source that I "obviously do not care for the planet"? Also i never said Co2 is a pollutant, as you said it is very much the opposite, but it also contains a property that TRAPS HEAT.
This would be totally cool except the ratio disparity is getting smaller and smaller, which if left continuing would result predominantly in longer droughts, ice cap floods and mass fish extinction because of the heated oceans.
jl931 1 year ago
maybe i'll try and convince mum to shift from labor to greens
BerryJoy 1 year ago
I'm not sure about the greens seats up, coalition seats down bit. Are we really going to be taking seats of the coalition, i thought it was the labor party.
johnwrw 1 year ago 2
@johnwrw In 2007 in Tasmania, the seats went 3 ALP, 1 GRN and 2 LIB, with the third ALP senator being elected from Bob's preferences. If the GRNs win in the ACT, that will also be at the expense of the LIBs.
itsjameshiggins 1 year ago
@johnwrw Well in ACT, the Labor Senator will be near impossible to knock off but the Liberal barely made the quota, in Victoria the Greens are expected to knock off Senator Fielding (Gods representative to Parliament) and we've got an okay chance of knocking off a Senator in NSW, QLD, SA. The more likely wins are mostly Liberal hold but I guess it's possible that some Labor folk would lose a seat too. The Senate preferences from Labor would probably make Liberal loss more likely over a Labor one
TS9LK 1 year ago
@TS9LK well, yeah, i was talking to my mother, who is a lot more knowledgable than me in these sort of things, it seems that we'll take seats from labor, and labor could take seats from the libs, leading to a net balance of us taking seats from the libs.
johnwrw 1 year ago
I have convinced my parents to both vote Greens.
JmanofAus 1 year ago 2
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@JmanofAus
"I have convinced my parents to both vote Greens."
That is hilarious.
George08ful 1 year ago
Voting Greens Below the Line
dctcool 1 year ago
I love the green triangle! How iconic!
And you guys have my vote (below the line, even!).
JessClearwater 1 year ago