@DieselJ13 WTF are you talking about??? You are not comparing a Ford Mustang 4.6L. You are comparing a T/A 5.7L to a Z28 5.7L. How the hell can you say a Camaro is faster? Dumbassess these days....
@SubZer089 ok first of all i literally never typed "mustang". the camaro is a 3.8 v6 vs a 5.7 t/a. did you see z28 badging on the camaro? cuz i didn't. and i can say that because there pretty much the same car other then the camaro's are slightly lighter, but thats just opinion. see if that camaro was a z28 they would have been head to head, (same fuckin motor) but the ta pulled away like the camaro was standing still thus its obviously a v6 (especially cause of the lack of badging)
@DieselJ13 First of all, Mustang was used as an example. I figured you were smart enough to already know that your previous post never included the words "Mustang".
Second, you never heard of debadging? You base your arguement solely on that it does not say Z28 on the car. If that car was indeed a V6, it would have never even gotten the jump it did get in the beginning. The Camaro stayed side by side with the T/A from 0:04 - 0:10. A 3.8L would not be able to do that. Look at the description.
@SubZer089 its called flutering the throttle but an ass clown like you wouldnt know that. but what ever son. it dont matter chevy got rid of pontiac for a reason.
@DieselJ13 Shows how much your small brain knows. Since when was Chevrolet General Motors? Or did an ass clown like you not know that it was GM's decision and it was for a reason you'll never understand. A douche like you would never have known what GM had planned for Pontiac before liquidating their factories and Manufacturers.
@SubZer089 it's not brian surgery bro, the sales of Pontiac were in the shitter so they sold off the shitiest section of GM including Saturn. so stop talking out your ass like you know somthing cuz you dont bro. i'll never understand please its simple fucking economics bro. back to the main topic IF that were a stock ws6 and a stock z28 they would have been head to head. so there for, the ws6 is modified, or the "z28" is actually just a 3.8. end of discusion.
@DieselJ13 No its not brain surgery. Its called Google. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about because the Chevrolet and Pontiac manufacturers both used the same parts and engines for their models. So you just called Chevrolet shitty. This stuff sounds like Rocket Science to you though "bro". I cant wait to hear what other senseless crap you post next.
I know it's a 97 but I still prefer the old front end. The headlights yellow too quickly on the newer ones and it looks too much like a monte carlo. The older front end had a more sporty and distinctive look imho.
nice that you put the LS1 from the newer 4th gen maro but i woulda kept the old fron fascia.. i have a 98 z28 ss and i want the older front fascia, looks much much better.
@SubZer089 i dont know about camaros as much as i do firebirds and trans am's, so how can you tell that the camaro is a 97 and had a front end change? is it something with the back tail lights? and also i know that the dash is different in the 97's. its easy to tell on the firebirds because the tail lights aren't honey combs and the console inside is different.
@oilerman313131 The way how I can tell is the same with firebirds. For some reason, from the 1993-1997 years of both camaros and firebirds, they had black door handles. And by judging that the spoiler and corvette rims, he likes modding the look of it.
A front end swap is pretty popular because its not too hard to switch everything over. It looks like a pretty clean job, but that is not going to make his Camaro win. XD
@jcmknl2005 haha, i was thinking the same thing!!! I love the bullshit cough, classic. And since when is it "common" to swap front clip?? where I'm from, we're more about performance upgrades
I'm the fat kid driving the camaro lol... U guys are all idiots. It was a 97 v6 camaro... Thts why the top has red too. Swapped in a 100% stock ls1 in it along with the front end and dash. only mods that were down under the car. So while u idiots argue I'm running 13.1 in a stock m6 ls1 still spinning down the track. and paying half the amount in insurance. I think I won.. Also I bet furiosls1 car would spank any of yours lol
@MoPar7055 Their both basically the same car, GM owns Pontiac, they've got the same design other than the body panels. both have LS1 engines but the WS6 has ram air.
The SS is Chevy's version of WS6, the Z28 is for the regular Trans-Am. Regardless they are all in the same ballpark performance wise. And the Camaros also have "ram air" in the form of hood scoops.
its pretty easy to change the front ends, you cant really tell what year it is just based off the front end. I was also going to put a 98+ front end on my 97. Doesnt mean its a 98
GM actually changed the front end not just because it was due for a face lift, but so it would match up to the new hood height.
The LS1s intake manifold clears higher in the engine bay. other than that all the body panels are the same. looking at the ass end of an LT1 era camaro and an LS1 era camaro you couldn't tell the difference lol.
I don't know if the Owner of the Z had the clearance issues and decided to swap front ends, but I guess its a possibility
ya its preety easy if your not a dumb shit like most of the people on here tellin me my car isnt a 97.and im registered and insured as 97 rs payin half the price of u camaro know it alls.. i bet half of u cant even change your own oil let alone do modifications
yea really dude. the red camaro is my car. its insured and registered as a 97 rs. then u get a new ls1 front end put it on along wit the ls1 under the hood. only v6 had that roof piece painted . my car is v8 just fuly stock wit nice suspension mods. his car had couple things done to u dumb fucks. i bet ill beet any other stock camaros. ran 13 flat on regular street tires. and im a big dude. u guys are all stupid i agree wit furious ls1
@tietie1424 No but they had that standard body for a few years. They could have put a 2000 model front end on a 97 Camaro. I know that most GM cars until they do the massive body overhauls (IE the 92 Camaros followed by the 93 Camaros) The body panels all fit together nicely. If they did all that shit in the description changing out the front fenders and bumper and hood is easy to them.
You can swap front ends on both the Camaros and the 'birds. We used to have an LT1 with the WS6 package. When a rock flew off a truck and put a hole through nose we swapped in the front from an 01 WS6.
@KingTMD if you read the description he said 97 Z28 with an LS1 conversion which means he swaped the front end to look like the 98 and above body style
@ryanmtanner Then it must be a 98. Unless he spent alot of time trying to make it look like a 98-02 model.. I doubt be spent money on a 97 redoing the front end and putting a LS1 in it, You could have bought a 98 for that.
@KingTMD Are you that fucking dumb? It's a simple bolt on modification to slap a 98-02 front end onto a 93-97. Tons of people do it with the Firebirds, since the LS1 era Firebird front ends look kickass.
Whether he has incorrect information or not, you need to learn your cars. It takes a whole hour or so to completely swap between LT1 and LS1 front ends. I personally believe that it is infact a 1997, due to the matching color of the roof clip. This was uncommon on 98-02's..
@KingTMD No shit, dumbass. Nice way to change the subject. Incase you didn't know, Camaros and Firebirds are built on the same platform, IDIOT. I was using an example that is far more common, since I've seen a lot more LT1-LS1 front end swaps on Firebirds, IDIOT.
I wish kids like you spoke English fluently.
" It's a simple bolt on modification to slap a 98-02 front end onto a 93-97. Tons of people do it with the Firebirds, since the LS1 era Firebird front ends look kickass."
@KingTMD Do you understand yet? I said that it is a simple bolt on modification to slap a NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT TO TWO THOUSAND TWO front end onto a NINETY THREE TO NINETY SEVEN.
I mentioned Firebirds because of the fact that it is far more common on that "half" of the F bodies..
Do you get it yet, idiot? What a fucking reject.. Good job with trying to cover your ass there, buddy.
@KingTMD I don't care what you need to pretend to do or not, or what you own. Fact of the matter is, you need to actually learn your cars a bit better before you go and try to insult other people.
Nearly everything from each generation of the F bodies is interchangable. Tons of people throw LS1's into third and first gens, especially for people who are going for a resto-mod or pro touring style first gen. Wheels, rear ends, transmissions, brakes.
@KingTMD Obviously you do not. How are they posers? They own the car, they just want an updated look. Everyone does it, it's a means of making your car look better, without buying a ricey body kit.
Mustang GT owners do it by bolting on Cobra bumpers. LT1 to LS1 front end conversions. If they own the car, how the hell are they being a poser? I bought a spoiler with the third brake light from a 1988 Z28, to get rid of the CHMSL on the hatch of my 86, does that make me a poser?
@KingTMD Besides, quit changing the damn subject. That was the second time you've done it, out of the two replies.
You tried to change it up by that gay ass excuse of talking about Camaros, and not Firebirds, now you say that YOU don't need to pretend to have an LS1 Camaro. No one cares about that, and if I were you, I wouldn't even admit to owning a 2002 Z28. It'll bring shame to other owners, who do know that the front ends are interchangeable.
(unmccoy2003) - Dude that TA killed that Camaro that suposedly has the same size engine, I mean seriously. V-8 TA 340ft lbs of torque, V-6 Camaro 225 ft lbs of torque, 4 or 5 seconds of running with the TA, highly possible. Aside from that though if the Camaro did have the LS1 the TA also has an LS1 which came stock with the WS6. How did such a tradegy come about? They blew em' away.
I honestly doubt that red camaro was a v6.. the car shakes when it shifts i got a 3.4L and it doesnt shake when i shift like that anyways and niether does a 3.8. The ws6 was just faster because it had mods.. Im going to say the description lied and the camaro is just stock with a typical DD.. 3.8's cant hang with any ls1 thats for sure.. i've seen them run.. theres a big difference
Based off of the front end of the Camaro Its a 1998-2002 model not a 1997 as the author say it is. As far as it being Z28 model no Z28 badges are present and only the base model 3.8 liter V6 Camaro's had BLACK SIDE MIRRORS AND BLACK DOOR HANDLES. The 3.8 liter camaro has a torque output of 225 ft lbs which is just enough to keep up with the TA for around 4 seconds as it did until the TA's high end HP kicked in and fucking smoked em'
I'm gonna throw a little bit of a wrench in ur comment here. u would be correct that the front end is from a 98-02, but did you know why GM changed the nose in order to fit the LS1 into the camaro. they had to raise the hood height, so they had to redesign the front clip. Also ur correct again about the mirrors n door handles, but I have a friend w/a 93 z28 n he liked the look. so he painted them on his car along w/ the piece that runs over the top.
( SiiMpLeXiiTy10) -Hey faggot fuck you. I know how to fucking read I see that, but do you always believe everything you read obviously...you gullible son of a bitch. I mean where's the proof? did you look under both of there hoods before they raced? Did you help the guy do the alleged LS1 conversion? NO. You read it and believe it thats it. ZERO questioning. Simon says-simon does. Go jump off a cliff...No actually there might be hope for you.
I believe in 99 they changed the mirrors on all camaros to being the car color instead of black. The biggest indicator of a camaro being a v6 is the body piece that runs between the back windshield and the two windows. On v6s it is painted the same color as the car, on v8s it is black. Some owners will paint it, but IMO it looks much better black.
Well I have no all out racecar whatsoever, but It's a 2001 WS6, I have a tick built 6spd..I do all work myself but that,LT headers, deleted cats,slp lid, free mods...stock with the slp lid and nothing done but with new tires I went 13.18@104mph 2.0 60ft...now after 7K invested and I only went 13.07 but with a 2.4 60ft...now with the corrected time of a normal 1/8th mile run like I had stock without spinning through 3rd, I would have ran 12.40's..I eat Scharged cobras n all I have is headers...
fastest car i ever had was a modded 11 second ls1 camaro all motor.....
my ford lightnings where in the 12's but not as scary fast as the ls1 it felt like my r1 when it was running good. for being all motor they got my respect. imagine a blower on top the 6.0 ford would not have a chance
camaro is my car. its a 97 rs with a ls1 swap along with a front end. fully loaded with every option. ran a 13 flat on bald ass tires with me drivein. all stock besides suspension mods. i missed third so i lost worst then i would have but still loose to a modded ws6. car only has 55oo into it and will dust any stock ls1 u put next to it. 5.7>1.8 vtec lol, 4.6, 5.0
f bodies for life we are united as one firebirds and camoros are running the streets almost stock against these ricers mustangs are ehh but they are still american go after the ricers boys
quit fucking hating dammits!!!firebirds and camaro's are in the same fucking team!!!we suppose to be talking trash about those piece's of shit mustangs not camaro's or firebirds, camaro's and firebirds are like brothers, sharing almost all the same components, like seroiusly, both are equal, ss vs ws6 and shit, like come onn lets just all be in a team and start talking trash to those shitangs?, right?
ehhh not really, sadly theirs only a few of them, lmao, and the new camaro does 0-60 the same time as the 03/04 cobra, get ur facts straight dumb shit, and sadly 03/04 cobra is SUPERCHARGED too, dumb fuck, a 2002 camaro ss LS1 does 0-60 in 4.9 secs, and cobra in 4.6, and cobra is supercharged, sadly, and camaro is all MOTOR, ill wait for another reply from u, and laugh AGAIN, LMAO!!
the real deal is, 5.7 chevy gets better mpg's thatn the 4.6 and is much easier to get power out of and the 5.7 never brakes down my buds had 2 99 z/28s and both went to 300,000 with only needing radiators and tires, where both my grandpas have 95 5.0L's one at 60,000 with many mechanical problems and one at 114,000 and the engine is radeling like its about to fall apart and the trannies slip like a bitch, even my dads pos 89 dakota made it too 275,000miles with no problems AT ALL try it w/t ford
i had problem with my chevy's to not nearly as many though as with my sn-95 saleen but it was the s-351 and it had a bnlower and big block from factory in 1995. back then fast and still fast runs 11's.....youtube it
@metalmaniac21 the new camaro has more horsepower than a cobra you idiot...2003-04 4.6 DOHC SC with 390 isnt bad...a 2010 camaro with 7 more years of technology and a much bigger displacement (6.2) with a little over 400HP is still not faster. Thats the sad part LMAO...
@metalmaniac21 who cares..Chevy's have a oversized 6.2 that cant beat a small displacement V8..I'm not trying to defend FORD or anything but you would think that a 6.2 of todays age would beat a past 4.6 SC cranking out 390 and with minor bolt ons (CAI/Header/Exhaust/pullied...would easily be in the 450's-520's...try that with a oversized camaro lol...
@metalmaniac21 its pretty fair when its a supercharged 4.6 small block vs a all motor 6.2l big block..or you can just look at the new 2011 GT. all motor is 4.5ish. happy? dont mean to cause an argument here but when chevy guys have to yell "supercharger supercharger supercharger", then they need to be shut up.. race what you bought/brought.
by the looks of it theyre the only real american car left coming off the production line no matter what happens, ford has the mustang for american fans even when fucking GM fails us... mustangs may sometimes not be as quick as GTO's Trans Am or Camaro but atleast ford is keeping the stang alive, who knows if Camaro will still be around a year from now...
Just to clarify their is no difference between an WS6, SS, Z28 or Trans Am. They all have the same LS1 engine only difference at all was that the 01 and 02 LS1's got the LS6 manifold making a little more power but not much. So in any race between those 4 cars its usually a drivers race. Sticks have better gears then autos also. So the stick is a little quicker usually. Im only talking stock LS1's by the way.
Headlights, grille, and the entire hood. It's a 98, for all dumb asses who can't realize that.
NoNeedToPot 4 months ago
@NoNeedToPot Top 2 comments = all that needs to be said. I had plans of converting my 96 formula into a 98-02 WS6 its not hard.
SuRihtanil 3 months ago
lol the guys face. XD
ovasquez7 4 months ago
Trans am just looks better but power is about equal.325 stock HP each.
joshbethaking 5 months ago
ok its a 98 + camaro. not a z28 and prolly a 3.8 stocker. we all know camaro's are faster then ta's duh...dipshits these days...
DieselJ13 5 months ago
@DieselJ13 WTF are you talking about??? You are not comparing a Ford Mustang 4.6L. You are comparing a T/A 5.7L to a Z28 5.7L. How the hell can you say a Camaro is faster? Dumbassess these days....
SubZer089 4 months ago
@SubZer089 ok first of all i literally never typed "mustang". the camaro is a 3.8 v6 vs a 5.7 t/a. did you see z28 badging on the camaro? cuz i didn't. and i can say that because there pretty much the same car other then the camaro's are slightly lighter, but thats just opinion. see if that camaro was a z28 they would have been head to head, (same fuckin motor) but the ta pulled away like the camaro was standing still thus its obviously a v6 (especially cause of the lack of badging)
DieselJ13 4 months ago
@DieselJ13 First of all, Mustang was used as an example. I figured you were smart enough to already know that your previous post never included the words "Mustang".
Second, you never heard of debadging? You base your arguement solely on that it does not say Z28 on the car. If that car was indeed a V6, it would have never even gotten the jump it did get in the beginning. The Camaro stayed side by side with the T/A from 0:04 - 0:10. A 3.8L would not be able to do that. Look at the description.
SubZer089 4 months ago
@SubZer089 its called flutering the throttle but an ass clown like you wouldnt know that. but what ever son. it dont matter chevy got rid of pontiac for a reason.
DieselJ13 4 months ago
@DieselJ13 Shows how much your small brain knows. Since when was Chevrolet General Motors? Or did an ass clown like you not know that it was GM's decision and it was for a reason you'll never understand. A douche like you would never have known what GM had planned for Pontiac before liquidating their factories and Manufacturers.
SubZer089 4 months ago
@SubZer089 it's not brian surgery bro, the sales of Pontiac were in the shitter so they sold off the shitiest section of GM including Saturn. so stop talking out your ass like you know somthing cuz you dont bro. i'll never understand please its simple fucking economics bro. back to the main topic IF that were a stock ws6 and a stock z28 they would have been head to head. so there for, the ws6 is modified, or the "z28" is actually just a 3.8. end of discusion.
DieselJ13 4 months ago
@DieselJ13 No its not brain surgery. Its called Google. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about because the Chevrolet and Pontiac manufacturers both used the same parts and engines for their models. So you just called Chevrolet shitty. This stuff sounds like Rocket Science to you though "bro". I cant wait to hear what other senseless crap you post next.
SubZer089 4 months ago
@DieselJ13 no the z28 is just really a 97 LT1 if it were a real 98 LS1 u are correct they would b neck and neck
x6xdevilx9x 4 months ago
that exaust on the camaro sounds like ass in my opinion, way too loud.
Rlindloge 5 months ago
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ragnarok67 5 months ago
I know it's a 97 but I still prefer the old front end. The headlights yellow too quickly on the newer ones and it looks too much like a monte carlo. The older front end had a more sporty and distinctive look imho.
RastaMastaKonTiki 5 months ago
HAH he had the camera man and still won!!
xgongiveittoya44 5 months ago
nice that you put the LS1 from the newer 4th gen maro but i woulda kept the old fron fascia.. i have a 98 z28 ss and i want the older front fascia, looks much much better.
need2speed94 6 months ago
nothing sounds sexier than a roaring v8 shifting..
xcubestation 6 months ago
i would have left the 97 front end on.
Dart00Z 7 months ago
best looking front end conversion i've seen.
gangstapanda102 7 months ago
LOL, do you guys bother reading the description. VERY common for LT1 owners to do a 98-02 conversion for the front end.
karpetcm 8 months ago
@karpetcm being an lt1 own personally i like the lt1 front end, looks more aggressive :)
stonecoldtrk 7 months ago
Its got the black driver side mirror too along with the pre-98 spoiler and taillights
AntLS1 9 months ago
Thumbs Up if your not retarded and know that the Camaro is a 97.
SubZer089 9 months ago 13
@SubZer089 i dont know about camaros as much as i do firebirds and trans am's, so how can you tell that the camaro is a 97 and had a front end change? is it something with the back tail lights? and also i know that the dash is different in the 97's. its easy to tell on the firebirds because the tail lights aren't honey combs and the console inside is different.
oilerman313131 4 months ago
@oilerman313131 The way how I can tell is the same with firebirds. For some reason, from the 1993-1997 years of both camaros and firebirds, they had black door handles. And by judging that the spoiler and corvette rims, he likes modding the look of it.
A front end swap is pretty popular because its not too hard to switch everything over. It looks like a pretty clean job, but that is not going to make his Camaro win. XD
SubZer089 4 months ago
@SubZer089 oh nice! haha, ive never noticed the door handles before!
oilerman313131 4 months ago
Its got lt1 taillights
mathyu0179123232 10 months ago
cough cough bullshit
jcmknl2005 10 months ago
@jcmknl2005 haha, i was thinking the same thing!!! I love the bullshit cough, classic. And since when is it "common" to swap front clip?? where I'm from, we're more about performance upgrades
bigdougo 8 months ago
0:09 that's kind of a scary look lol
laurence265 11 months ago
its a 97 the spoliers of the 97 and 98 and above are different he just swapped the front ends for sum reason
TRANSAMfan43 11 months ago
LOL@ all the retards who think it's not a 97. YOU CAN SWAP FRONT ENDS, IDIOTS.
JobeMinacum 11 months ago 8
@JobeMinacum why would you
wrx4life44 6 months ago
@wrx4life44 hmm, I don't know. Maybe it was wrecked originally. Maybe they like it more. Maybe they could only find that specific front.
Dumb troll is dumb.
JobeMinacum 6 months ago
I'm the fat kid driving the camaro lol... U guys are all idiots. It was a 97 v6 camaro... Thts why the top has red too. Swapped in a 100% stock ls1 in it along with the front end and dash. only mods that were down under the car. So while u idiots argue I'm running 13.1 in a stock m6 ls1 still spinning down the track. and paying half the amount in insurance. I think I won.. Also I bet furiosls1 car would spank any of yours lol
saschevy08 1 year ago 2
dude that aint a fair race
91cannibal 1 year ago
that camaro is a fuckin trip. It has a 98-02 front bumper, and 93-96 rear tail lights, and you say its a 97???
ford4point0 1 year ago
more fucking mexicans!
maalketh34 1 year ago
Nooooo moniica!!!!!!!!!
ShockingSurprize 1 year ago 3
thats a 1998-2002 body dumbass
Monst3r177 1 year ago
no, just a different front bumper, but yea, thats 98+
firechicken76 1 year ago
Lol it's not a z28...
Lwojcik77 1 year ago
Is the Z28 Chevy's version of the WS6?
MoPar7055 1 year ago
@MoPar7055 Their both basically the same car, GM owns Pontiac, they've got the same design other than the body panels. both have LS1 engines but the WS6 has ram air.
ilikebooty00 1 year ago
@ilikebooty00
The SS is Chevy's version of WS6, the Z28 is for the regular Trans-Am. Regardless they are all in the same ballpark performance wise. And the Camaros also have "ram air" in the form of hood scoops.
generalleeoo9 1 year ago 2
@MoPar7055 No the SS camaro is chevy's version of the WS6
MANDOMAN8806 1 year ago
@MANDOMAN8806 then what is the z28?
MoPar7055 1 year ago
@MoPar7055 the z28 is chevys version of the base trans am.....and the v6 camaro is chevys version of the regular firebird.
MANDOMAN8806 1 year ago
Whats up with the fat kid driving the Camaro? Lol. xD
nonemc 1 year ago
Yeah he sure is one "hella gifted" driver in that Z28. I don't know too many people that have the skills required to take that long between shifts.
SickG6 1 year ago
i like the camaro guys face when the t/a passed... he's like "what the fuck kind of beast is that?!"
blueeyesUSMC 1 year ago
bet you traded your ford for that LS1 considering you know fuck all about chevy haha. moron
blazinloud 1 year ago
notice it says ls1 conversion..i wont guess and say front ends were swapped too. one question though why does the camaro driver look scared?? LMAO!!
blackstang2003 1 year ago
lol hahahah dude thats an f body camaro 98-02----(unless he changed the front)
Ascen215 1 year ago
v6 camaro on z06 wheels hahahaha
juanvalencias 1 year ago
its pretty easy to change the front ends, you cant really tell what year it is just based off the front end. I was also going to put a 98+ front end on my 97. Doesnt mean its a 98
StrokedGT 1 year ago
Lmao at the Camaro drivers facial expression lol!!
redboxsixtyfive 1 year ago
At everyone saying it cant be a 97, you all could be wrong. It is a direct bolt on to swap front ends people do it all the time.
pokesmot3475 1 year ago
jesus how many times are you gonna fuckin look back. hahaha this guy obviously doesnt race much and if he does he makes that maro look like crap.
MRLS1SS 1 year ago
this is hardly a comparison the ws6 is the camaro ss equivalent not the z28
TrueFear94 1 year ago
wow that thing sounded sick
fabiolas4 1 year ago
trans am everytime.
2001tranzam 1 year ago
yeah the WS6 are faster than camaros(:
unless ethier one has mods, but im talking about stock
xkalexanderx916 1 year ago
thats a 98 up camaro, an look at that mexcan!!! hahaha tickles me funny
capthowdy126 1 year ago
the driver of the camaro fucking blows
achillesandroscoe 1 year ago
GM actually changed the front end not just because it was due for a face lift, but so it would match up to the new hood height.
The LS1s intake manifold clears higher in the engine bay. other than that all the body panels are the same. looking at the ass end of an LT1 era camaro and an LS1 era camaro you couldn't tell the difference lol.
I don't know if the Owner of the Z had the clearance issues and decided to swap front ends, but I guess its a possibility
WS6performancepkg 2 years ago
ya its preety easy if your not a dumb shit like most of the people on here tellin me my car isnt a 97.and im registered and insured as 97 rs payin half the price of u camaro know it alls.. i bet half of u cant even change your own oil let alone do modifications
saschevy08 2 years ago
kid shit his pants at the last look back hahaha
thebadboyin713 2 years ago
he showed that hindu
joebuckjrr 2 years ago
dude y does he look like that
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
That kid looks funny in the car.
whatever52h 2 years ago
@whatever52h hahaha he does
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
can anyone tell me whats better Racing WS6's or Fucking ur dream gurl??
SRT92 2 years ago
dream girl + '03 cobra
67mustangreg 2 years ago
@67mustangreg mustangs suck
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago 2
true that!! thumbs up
joeypill7 2 years ago
shit id say both lol!
joeypill7 2 years ago
yea really dude. the red camaro is my car. its insured and registered as a 97 rs. then u get a new ls1 front end put it on along wit the ls1 under the hood. only v6 had that roof piece painted . my car is v8 just fuly stock wit nice suspension mods. his car had couple things done to u dumb fucks. i bet ill beet any other stock camaros. ran 13 flat on regular street tires. and im a big dude. u guys are all stupid i agree wit furious ls1
saschevy08 2 years ago
whoever has that red camaro..AND the publisher of this vid is a FUCKING MORON. 97's DO NOT have that front end. you fail at life
tietie1424 2 years ago
@tietie1424 No but they had that standard body for a few years. They could have put a 2000 model front end on a 97 Camaro. I know that most GM cars until they do the massive body overhauls (IE the 92 Camaros followed by the 93 Camaros) The body panels all fit together nicely. If they did all that shit in the description changing out the front fenders and bumper and hood is easy to them.
DystruktoBoi1 2 years ago
You can swap front ends on both the Camaros and the 'birds. We used to have an LT1 with the WS6 package. When a rock flew off a truck and put a hole through nose we swapped in the front from an 01 WS6.
Amras0407 1 year ago
@Amras0407 oh. huh
tietie1424 1 year ago
97...really dude? the ONLY camaros that have that front end are 98+ Haha that little mexican guy in the red camaro looked scared lol.
tietie1424 2 years ago
thats hilarious
thebadboyin713 2 years ago
That isn't a 97 Camaro. Or it would be a different body style.
KingTMD 2 years ago 26
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Ur a stupid fuck end of story....
furiousls1 2 years ago
Your obviously a moron, Or if you knew anything about Camaros you can tell it's a 98 or above. Stupid.
KingTMD 2 years ago 30
@KingTMD it has a conversion kit!
ryanmtanner 1 year ago
@KingTMD if you read the description he said 97 Z28 with an LS1 conversion which means he swaped the front end to look like the 98 and above body style
TheHoldini 10 months ago
@KingTMD Maybe it's that fancy "LS1 Conversion" hahaha... or maybe it is a 98 or later....
bigdougo 8 months ago
bahahahahahahaha
paintballer223 2 years ago
@furiousls1 ur retarded its a 98+ maro
xsvtank 1 year ago
@furiousls1 IT really isnt a 97. Unless it had the front end changed.
Nec1 1 year ago
@furiousls1 no hes not hes right
TrueFear94 1 year ago
@furiousls1 hes right the 97 has different head lights.
MrNickchappell 1 year ago
@furiousls1 no hes right the front end changed in 98 so its at least a 98 end of story...
xxzerocoolxx45 1 year ago
@furiousls1 no YOUR a stupid fuck...the front end and headlights are 98-02..so he was correct in his assumption...go fuck yourself dude
jason14sierra 1 year ago
@furiousls1 ur a stupid fuck u fucking fuck head. that body style is at least a 98. end of story...
trinitytx09 1 year ago
@furiousls1 no furious u are a dumbfuck. that is a 98+ camaro. stop acting cool over youtube pussy bitch
BRUTESH0T 1 year ago
@furiousls1 who are u calling a stupid fuck? That is a 98-02 Camaro body, u must be the fat kid driving the Camaro, LMFAO. xD
nonemc 1 year ago
@furiousls1 ah no you are 98-02 they had thouse headlights 93-97 were the more enclosed ones like the 3rd gens
87irocz350TPI 1 year ago
@KingTMD it has a ls1 front on it
ryanmtanner 1 year ago
@ryanmtanner Then it must be a 98. Unless he spent alot of time trying to make it look like a 98-02 model.. I doubt be spent money on a 97 redoing the front end and putting a LS1 in it, You could have bought a 98 for that.
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD LS1 front end conversion.
Look it up. Its a very common mod to 1997's
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
@KingTMD Are you that fucking dumb? It's a simple bolt on modification to slap a 98-02 front end onto a 93-97. Tons of people do it with the Firebirds, since the LS1 era Firebird front ends look kickass.
Whether he has incorrect information or not, you need to learn your cars. It takes a whole hour or so to completely swap between LT1 and LS1 front ends. I personally believe that it is infact a 1997, due to the matching color of the roof clip. This was uncommon on 98-02's..
kcole939 1 year ago
@kcole939 Who is talking about a firebird? I'm talking about the Camaro, Idiot.
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD No shit, dumbass. Nice way to change the subject. Incase you didn't know, Camaros and Firebirds are built on the same platform, IDIOT. I was using an example that is far more common, since I've seen a lot more LT1-LS1 front end swaps on Firebirds, IDIOT.
I wish kids like you spoke English fluently.
" It's a simple bolt on modification to slap a 98-02 front end onto a 93-97. Tons of people do it with the Firebirds, since the LS1 era Firebird front ends look kickass."
kcole939 1 year ago
@KingTMD Do you understand yet? I said that it is a simple bolt on modification to slap a NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT TO TWO THOUSAND TWO front end onto a NINETY THREE TO NINETY SEVEN.
I mentioned Firebirds because of the fact that it is far more common on that "half" of the F bodies..
Do you get it yet, idiot? What a fucking reject.. Good job with trying to cover your ass there, buddy.
kcole939 1 year ago
@kcole939 Cover my ass? I have a 2002 Z28 I don't have to "Pretend" to have a 98-02 Camao by a bolt on. Thanks!
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD I don't care what you need to pretend to do or not, or what you own. Fact of the matter is, you need to actually learn your cars a bit better before you go and try to insult other people.
Nearly everything from each generation of the F bodies is interchangable. Tons of people throw LS1's into third and first gens, especially for people who are going for a resto-mod or pro touring style first gen. Wheels, rear ends, transmissions, brakes.
Seriously, learn your cars. Thanks!
kcole939 1 year ago
@kcole939 I know my cars bud, I wasn't aware of posers that bolt on front ends. Thanks though..
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD Obviously you do not. How are they posers? They own the car, they just want an updated look. Everyone does it, it's a means of making your car look better, without buying a ricey body kit.
Mustang GT owners do it by bolting on Cobra bumpers. LT1 to LS1 front end conversions. If they own the car, how the hell are they being a poser? I bought a spoiler with the third brake light from a 1988 Z28, to get rid of the CHMSL on the hatch of my 86, does that make me a poser?
kcole939 1 year ago
@KingTMD Besides, quit changing the damn subject. That was the second time you've done it, out of the two replies.
You tried to change it up by that gay ass excuse of talking about Camaros, and not Firebirds, now you say that YOU don't need to pretend to have an LS1 Camaro. No one cares about that, and if I were you, I wouldn't even admit to owning a 2002 Z28. It'll bring shame to other owners, who do know that the front ends are interchangeable.
kcole939 1 year ago
@KingTMD the front ends are interchangeable, im sure its a 97 with 98+ front end
pokesmot3475 1 year ago
@pokesmot3475 Yeah, been discussed. I see it has a older style spoiler on it.
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD its not hard to swap a front bumber and hood buddy
SomeDumbAss88 1 year ago
@SomeDumbAss88 Ok get over it, That comment was weeks ago.
KingTMD 1 year ago
@KingTMD Im not trying to be a dick, im just letting you know lol
SomeDumbAss88 1 year ago
@KingTMD yup, it would have a different front end.
firechicken76 1 year ago
hey how much did it cost 2 convert the lt1 2 the ls1?? please comment back
psykho15 2 years ago
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1Kurgan1 2 years ago
(unmccoy2003) - Dude that TA killed that Camaro that suposedly has the same size engine, I mean seriously. V-8 TA 340ft lbs of torque, V-6 Camaro 225 ft lbs of torque, 4 or 5 seconds of running with the TA, highly possible. Aside from that though if the Camaro did have the LS1 the TA also has an LS1 which came stock with the WS6. How did such a tradegy come about? They blew em' away.
CavemanIIIII 2 years ago
I honestly doubt that red camaro was a v6.. the car shakes when it shifts i got a 3.4L and it doesnt shake when i shift like that anyways and niether does a 3.8. The ws6 was just faster because it had mods.. Im going to say the description lied and the camaro is just stock with a typical DD.. 3.8's cant hang with any ls1 thats for sure.. i've seen them run.. theres a big difference
frostbytey 2 years ago
Based off of the front end of the Camaro Its a 1998-2002 model not a 1997 as the author say it is. As far as it being Z28 model no Z28 badges are present and only the base model 3.8 liter V6 Camaro's had BLACK SIDE MIRRORS AND BLACK DOOR HANDLES. The 3.8 liter camaro has a torque output of 225 ft lbs which is just enough to keep up with the TA for around 4 seconds as it did until the TA's high end HP kicked in and fucking smoked em'
CavemanIIIII 2 years ago 2
This is probably the most intelligent person on youtube. XD
And I agree. Just for fun I raced a neighbor's 02 SS with my 99 V6. Pretty much stayed with him until he hit second gear, then I was history. lmfao.
xxShinobi09 2 years ago
I'm gonna throw a little bit of a wrench in ur comment here. u would be correct that the front end is from a 98-02, but did you know why GM changed the nose in order to fit the LS1 into the camaro. they had to raise the hood height, so they had to redesign the front clip. Also ur correct again about the mirrors n door handles, but I have a friend w/a 93 z28 n he liked the look. so he painted them on his car along w/ the piece that runs over the top.
WS6performancepkg 2 years ago
I just can't believe that a V6 would keep up with a 5.7 V8 for even one second, let alone four. That had to have been a V8 camaro.
unmccoy2003 2 years ago
the trans am isnt a v6 its an ls1 I beleive..
autom0bile 2 years ago
he switched him out dumbass..its clearly states that
SiiMpLeXiiTy10 2 years ago
( SiiMpLeXiiTy10) -Hey faggot fuck you. I know how to fucking read I see that, but do you always believe everything you read obviously...you gullible son of a bitch. I mean where's the proof? did you look under both of there hoods before they raced? Did you help the guy do the alleged LS1 conversion? NO. You read it and believe it thats it. ZERO questioning. Simon says-simon does. Go jump off a cliff...No actually there might be hope for you.
CavemanIIIII 2 years ago
I believe in 99 they changed the mirrors on all camaros to being the car color instead of black. The biggest indicator of a camaro being a v6 is the body piece that runs between the back windshield and the two windows. On v6s it is painted the same color as the car, on v8s it is black. Some owners will paint it, but IMO it looks much better black.
OneillSurf7 2 years ago
The sail panel. I thought it was a recall to have them painted black, my buddies 02 Firehawk doesn't have a black sail panel D:
TheMrRichard 2 years ago
That and z28s say it on the back and side of the car and ss the same
Smokie420ish 2 years ago
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CavemanIIIII 2 years ago
Well I have no all out racecar whatsoever, but It's a 2001 WS6, I have a tick built 6spd..I do all work myself but that,LT headers, deleted cats,slp lid, free mods...stock with the slp lid and nothing done but with new tires I went 13.18@104mph 2.0 60ft...now after 7K invested and I only went 13.07 but with a 2.4 60ft...now with the corrected time of a normal 1/8th mile run like I had stock without spinning through 3rd, I would have ran 12.40's..I eat Scharged cobras n all I have is headers...
MrWrencher 2 years ago
you must have more than headers to beat a cobra
mmpantherdude 2 years ago
i see a 99 camaro... no 987...
joshblacker1 2 years ago
lol the back wheels don't look like they are spinning at 0:02 - 0:03
ATeamOps0391 2 years ago
hahaha ure right!
solord18 2 years ago
well if the dumbass didnt have 1000lbs wortha crap for wheels he coulda done lil better....NOT!
WS6-FTW&camaros
sean55719 2 years ago
fastest car i ever had was a modded 11 second ls1 camaro all motor.....
my ford lightnings where in the 12's but not as scary fast as the ls1 it felt like my r1 when it was running good. for being all motor they got my respect. imagine a blower on top the 6.0 ford would not have a chance
gayrabbit 2 years ago
from :10-:12 the guy in the z28 has like an OHHH NOOO! look on his face, like dayuummm i had him
Chris11Stang 2 years ago
camaro is my car. its a 97 rs with a ls1 swap along with a front end. fully loaded with every option. ran a 13 flat on bald ass tires with me drivein. all stock besides suspension mods. i missed third so i lost worst then i would have but still loose to a modded ws6. car only has 55oo into it and will dust any stock ls1 u put next to it. 5.7>1.8 vtec lol, 4.6, 5.0
saschevy08 2 years ago
at 0:02 his wheel is stuck! gota get that fixed
XbenX0101 3 years ago
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XbenX0101 3 years ago
its like watching two fags go at it.....oh wait lol.... listen to metalmaniac haha lets all just be friends and hold hands haha
NA02mustaNgGT 3 years ago
f bodies for life we are united as one firebirds and camoros are running the streets almost stock against these ricers mustangs are ehh but they are still american go after the ricers boys
LILHURKULEEZ 3 years ago 4
it was a damn v6 no emblems plus a rs spoiler ....look at it
jmanuel812 3 years ago
ya modded ws6 vs LT1 camaro with LS1 front end thats what the info says lol
corbsvt 3 years ago
quit fucking hating dammits!!!firebirds and camaro's are in the same fucking team!!!we suppose to be talking trash about those piece's of shit mustangs not camaro's or firebirds, camaro's and firebirds are like brothers, sharing almost all the same components, like seroiusly, both are equal, ss vs ws6 and shit, like come onn lets just all be in a team and start talking trash to those shitangs?, right?
metalmaniac21 3 years ago 4
Too fucking right!
FirebirdKnight 3 years ago 3
haha you fagget. Mustangs are at least american.
AMERICANxMUSCLE 2 years ago
haha you faggot fucker, atleast camaro's and firebirds are faster then mustangs, hahaha, fucker.
metalmaniac21 2 years ago 4
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ahha you inbred fagget fucker at least 03-04 cobras are faster than those flattened things.
AMERICANxMUSCLE 2 years ago
ehhh not really, sadly theirs only a few of them, lmao, and the new camaro does 0-60 the same time as the 03/04 cobra, get ur facts straight dumb shit, and sadly 03/04 cobra is SUPERCHARGED too, dumb fuck, a 2002 camaro ss LS1 does 0-60 in 4.9 secs, and cobra in 4.6, and cobra is supercharged, sadly, and camaro is all MOTOR, ill wait for another reply from u, and laugh AGAIN, LMAO!!
metalmaniac21 2 years ago 8
281 vs 350 ...of course u need a s/c get a fox body with a fucken 351C in it and see who wins..id rather have a termi over a camero anyday..
csxt4685 2 years ago
the real deal is, 5.7 chevy gets better mpg's thatn the 4.6 and is much easier to get power out of and the 5.7 never brakes down my buds had 2 99 z/28s and both went to 300,000 with only needing radiators and tires, where both my grandpas have 95 5.0L's one at 60,000 with many mechanical problems and one at 114,000 and the engine is radeling like its about to fall apart and the trannies slip like a bitch, even my dads pos 89 dakota made it too 275,000miles with no problems AT ALL try it w/t ford
Theautotech 2 years ago
i had problem with my chevy's to not nearly as many though as with my sn-95 saleen but it was the s-351 and it had a bnlower and big block from factory in 1995. back then fast and still fast runs 11's.....youtube it
gayrabbit 2 years ago
@metalmaniac21 the new camaro has more horsepower than a cobra you idiot...2003-04 4.6 DOHC SC with 390 isnt bad...a 2010 camaro with 7 more years of technology and a much bigger displacement (6.2) with a little over 400HP is still not faster. Thats the sad part LMAO...
TPena92 1 year ago
@TPena92 its supercharged dumbass, like i SAID ON THE OTHER COMMENT!haha another dumbass on youtube.
metalmaniac21 1 year ago
@metalmaniac21 who cares..Chevy's have a oversized 6.2 that cant beat a small displacement V8..I'm not trying to defend FORD or anything but you would think that a 6.2 of todays age would beat a past 4.6 SC cranking out 390 and with minor bolt ons (CAI/Header/Exhaust/pullied...would easily be in the 450's-520's...try that with a oversized camaro lol...
TPena92 1 year ago
@metalmaniac21 its pretty fair when its a supercharged 4.6 small block vs a all motor 6.2l big block..or you can just look at the new 2011 GT. all motor is 4.5ish. happy? dont mean to cause an argument here but when chevy guys have to yell "supercharger supercharger supercharger", then they need to be shut up.. race what you bought/brought.
airsoftg0d 1 year ago
@metalmaniac21 your a fuck
1998LS1TransAm 1 year ago
@1998LS1TransAm ur mom is a fuck.
metalmaniac21 1 year ago
by the looks of it theyre the only real american car left coming off the production line no matter what happens, ford has the mustang for american fans even when fucking GM fails us... mustangs may sometimes not be as quick as GTO's Trans Am or Camaro but atleast ford is keeping the stang alive, who knows if Camaro will still be around a year from now...
SuRihtanil 2 years ago
recniabsal there is no such thing as a v6 trans am
06scrmstang 3 years ago
That was def a Z28, I have the v6. No way would that have been a race if it was a 6. Unless that kid put like 5-6 thousand into building up the 3.8
roryextreme 3 years ago
Just to clarify their is no difference between an WS6, SS, Z28 or Trans Am. They all have the same LS1 engine only difference at all was that the 01 and 02 LS1's got the LS6 manifold making a little more power but not much. So in any race between those 4 cars its usually a drivers race. Sticks have better gears then autos also. So the stick is a little quicker usually. Im only talking stock LS1's by the way.
Krobb350 3 years ago
Ya thats a V8.
95WhiteTransam 3 years ago