I think both countries should exist together for the more people the stronger it will be, I fully respect Israelis and Palestinians however I belive the Palestinians should not teach their children to hate Jews and Israeli citizens. And for the Israelis to recongnise that just because a country does not put a flag on a post does not mean it does exist and can be taken over for people make a country not a doccument. Long live Israel! Long live Palestine!
look at these pathetic people JUST LOOK AT THESE PICTURES... theyre all pictures of war!!!!!!! stupid muslims cant see the truth...HAHAHAHAH simply ANIMALS
oh muslims remember your unity...remember when we had one flag..when we were one body..when we stood united...we were a wall of justice...return oh muslims..let go of nationalism...remember your duty..and remember those who died to protect this great deen of ours...make dua our unity retuns for it shall return with it the protection of the ummah...
I totally understand your support I watched a movie called "The wind that Shake The Barley" about your wars to Get freedom it reminded me alot of palestine,
Respect to all free souls in Ireland.
we all are sure that the day of freedom will come to palestine sooner or later.
Since 3500 years jews have been in Israel, Jesus is born in Israel and is a jew. 70 years later the romans renamed Israel into "Palestine" most but not all jews were deported. Then came the byzantines, the arabs, the turkish and the british. But there was never a INDEPENDENT "Palestine" under arab rules.
@Arabmanly If you don't believe that there are jews who believe in Jesus check this video:
/watch?v=ux1AiYby8As&feature=related. When Jesus was born Israel was occupied by the romans. 70 years later Israel was renamed into "Palestine" by the romans. Peace between arabs and jews are only posible through Jesus: check my channel.
@Arabmanly Maybe you know about religion but you don't know about Jesus. OK let's talk about politics. The palestinian shall stop the terror recognice the right of existence of Israel then we can talk about a palestinian state. But I am sure they only want a palestinian state in order to be in a better position to attack Israel. By the way from 1948 till 1967 the "occupied" territories were occupied by Egypt and Jordania and why those countries did'nt accept a palestinian state?
@tazpi When a land is under occupation , the people has the right to resist the occupation in order
to achieve freedom . The Palestinians shall stop their resistance against Israel when Israel respects all the UN resolutions . Israel has no right on the land of Palestine . Israel is a squat . The legitimate owners of the land
are the Palestinians .I don't recognize Zionist squatters for they have no legitimacy upon this land .
@Arabmanly There will be no peace till Jesus returns when every muslim is as stupid and bloodthirsty like you. I am happy that Israel has got the nuclear bomb.
@Arabmanly Please stop your dirty word plays " And you pretend to believe in Jesus" Do you mean Israel will use the nuclear bomb against the palestinians? They will use it when it's necessary if the whole world or the whole muslim world is attacking her. Israel is not bound to the sermon of the mount. And if Jesus is coming back he will defend and save Israel. But before the antichrist will come.
@Arabmanly Do you mean peace is posible when every jew in Israel is killed? When there is no more Israel? Do you think then will be a palestinian state? Egypt, Jordan and Syria will then distribute the land of Israel between them.
@Arabmanly In Gaza nobody is starving. There are even millioniars and their traficking with the food which they receive from the west. And what happened in Gaza 2 years ago was the fault of Hamas. And Hams was so covard to hide between arab women and kids.
@Arabmanly If you would see the thruth you would convert to Jesus and preach the gospel of Jesus to the terrorists. And when the terror stops we can talk about a palestinian state.
@jawer30 It's part of Ashkenazi "Cultural" brainwashing. They will burn their bridges (or should I say breeches:-)) ) for as long as the USA subsidises them. When that ends, they are in deep kacky:-))
On 27 December 2008, without warning, Israeli forces began a devastating bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip . By 18 January 2009, some 1,400 Palestinians had been killed, including some 400 children and hundreds of other unarmed civilians, and large areas of Gaza had been razed to the ground.
@ILIYYILI You have been brainwashed. Look at the wretched conditions ordinary Gazans must endure. If you think children deserve to die for the alleged and probably untrue adults' actions what kind of sociopath are you? Who wants to live their life founded on the bodies of others? What have the American/Russian Zionists done to the palestinian jews?
@ILIYYILI The last sentence had me in hysterics, but the misdeeds of the "Israelis" (really East Europeans) are off the scale in terms of evil. The Ashkenazi "Culture" of instilled Secondary Psychopathy still intrigues me, though. So keep spewing out the Ziodrivel:-)))
@ILIYYILI The Strategy of Israel is that of a Psychopath. To sustain itself by manipulation of others around them. The truth is that Israel's Military Junta never want peace. This is the only way it can convince those who live in the Zionist enclave. Arafat sold to the Palestinians something unsaleable: That of only having 20-30% of their land back. But Gut Zionists want the bloody lot. Sharon crowed that "..we'll make a Pastrami sandwich " of the West Bank. But it's now backfiring on them
@ILIYYILI Not from the Mainstream Media. BTW I've looked at your profile. Pretty "normal" for a Zionist. About as Jewish as I am. Don't think you're a "Kahane Chai" but just maybe a "Hear me Lord Satan" type:-)
@ILIYYILI Well, some Zionists have or at least had a sence of humour. Levi Eshkol, when asked what he thought David Ben Gurion as doing is reported as saying in reply "Probably Falsifying History". Mainstream Media usually censors reports of Israeli war crimes. I found out what happened to the elderly Jews on the Irene & what the psychopaths who boarded the boat did to them. Don't bother crowing to me.
@ILIYYILI Well, I know you are not doing a good job for your Globalist masters. To sustain a lie, you must be coherent. I would have thought you would have learnt that as a child. I might have a nanosecond of pseudo sympathy for someone who believes in the lie that so called "Jews" were entitled to storm in and drive arabs off their land. I suppose sociopaths do not care and cannot learn anyway even if it is just to sustain a lie.
@ILIYYILI Interesting you say this. But your profile is full of contradictions. I wonder whose history you read? Israel has always been seen as Ashkenazi turf by Herzl, Chaim Weizmann, Ben Gurion and other Zionist Nationalists. The identities of the Mizrahim and Falashas are wiped away like those of the Palestinians. If you are truly Athiest and not a spiritual Jew, why would you care about not sharing the land with the Palestinians? I believe for Zionists, The Pleasure is in the Taking.
Israel has always been seen as Jewish land, not ashkenazi.
It was important for the leaders to get first the Ashkenazi jews because they were in much greater danger than the mizrahim. And they 'identities' don't really matter, they're Israeli, not ashkenazi or mizrahi.
The Palestinians have their identities, some are Israeli palestinians (the one that live in Israel) and the others are palestinians (the ones outside of Israel.
@ILIYYILI Interesting your comments. And I see their significance, too. As you play the "Atheist Druze" I see the same Khazarian Mantras filtering through. I am one for true social cohesion of all peoples in the world but I see here the usual Zionist Subversion going on. Subversives are abusers: Abusers of sane Folk's common decency to achieve their Sociopathic dreams of Dominance over these Good People. Go Back to the Squat Hole, My Russian Impostor.
I am truly and atheist, for I don't believe in God of any kind.
I'm not a spiritual Jew for I'm not a Jew, I have no part of me that is Jew, I'm part christian and part muslim.
I don't the the posibility of sharing tha land with the Palestinians possiable, Every time that Israel tries to make peace or anything good it seems that the terrorists in Gaza start firing rockets and start a fight, They don't want peace.
They want Israel for themselves and are not into sharing.
@ILIYYILI Yes Palestinians want their historical land back .
" If they are the ones that attacked ..." They didn't attack anyone , they' ve been living peacefully
in Palestine/ Canaan from time immemorial until Zionists invaded Palestine and chased them out . Where is it written that the Jews own this land ...In the Hebraic Bible !!!
As I' m not a Jew ( you aren' t either ), I don't believe a word of it .
The Hebraic Bible isn't a history book so your assertion is null and void .
@ILIYYILI You don' t know anything about the history of Palestine .
The Zionists conquered 80% of Palestine in 1948 , the 56 % were not enough for
their greedy appetite , the UN partition plan allotted them only 56% , which was already too much ... In 1948 colonialism wasn't decried as it is today so it wasn't absurd for Westerners to create a new colony in Palestine .Times have changed ; Israel is viewed as racist and colonial .
Palestinians DEFENDED their rights to their homeland .
@ILIYYILI , Fuck Hamas the death cult. I love it when idiots try to compare Israel to the apartheid regime of South Africa. That is a total apples-oranges comparison.
@Arabmanly 1967 was the six day war, it began because Israel was threatened by the arab nations, blockade of the Straits and the mobilization of forces in the Sinai.
Israel attacked first and conqered alot of land, including the gaza strip.
There's nothing special in gaza strip, Israel gets no profit in being in gaza.
It would even be better for Israel to be out of gaza, because it makes it look bad for the rest of the world and Israel needs the support of the world nations.
@ILIYYILI mmm i know what an Atheist is but not why or how you don't believe in something! im not trying to get smart with you or anything i was just interested in being able to some how understand it is all!
@ILIYYILI mm well i was born into it but that's not why im a Muslim trust me! i believe that i practice is the truth! but i just though believing in something was the way to go !
@ILIYYILI i could change my religion if i didn't believe it, but anyway their is way more to it than klll CHRISTIANS AND Jews! and the whole mixig water thing is mch simpler than you make it!
The quran says that whenever clean river water goes into the sea, the sea water and the cleen water don't mix together, because allah made it so or something...
And it's wrong, because the waters do mix.
And if you look cerfully, you'll find more mistakes such as these.
@ILIYYILI : well first of all, its great that you're trying to read the Quran and develop an understanding of each other - because thats the only way we, as civilized people can live in peace & love-by endeavouring to understand each other! - and not just relying on some pre-judiced portrayal by a third person, or the media, etc..
Well, what the Quran is trying to imply is that even though the fresh water river water mixes with the salt water sea - the river water remains "clean" i.e fresh!
If they attacked, trying to wipe out Israel, and lost the war (and their lands), how come it is Israel to blame??
How come I am the terrorist, while all I do it protect the land I live in from Palestinian terror groups that send suicide bombers, shoot rockets at cities and aim to kill civilians?
What are you reffering to when saying "Out country" ??
When ever Israel tries to make peace, even by giving palestinians land, the palestinians just keep on attacking, shooting rockets and sending suicide bombers to blow in malls and bases.
sure my brothers u will get the freedom .........................follow the non violence with the name of ALLAH( All Mighty)
thousif2303 3 weeks ago
usa/israHell : nazi,terrorists, cowards, illuminati
fantamola8 1 month ago
@fantamola8 united snakes & israhell = lucypherian nwo
kosak0 1 month ago
love
sophiethegypsyqueen 2 months ago
Fuck Israel... It has no legitimacy what so ever.. but it's because modern Arab weakness and the American support
Fuck Israel and America
majedeeh 2 months ago
Best Somali rapper who raps about the TRUTH, and not about having bitches, money, fame !
Thumbs up if you agree!
modinho15 3 months ago
ERETZ
ISRAEL
RULES
aleksei4321 4 months ago
@aleksei4321 please go fuck your self
aljakhsi2 2 months ago
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@aljakhsi2
Palestine is located between the "Neverland" to"Wonderland
aleksei4321 2 months ago
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there will never be a palestinian state!! this is disgusting!
anonymous7492 4 months ago
human rights .... my solidarity to the suffering people!
who is the land?
Peace on earth and goodwill to men!...hugs
direitos humanos ....minha solidariedade ao povo que sofre!
De quem é a terra?
Paz na terra e aos homens de boa vontade!!abraços
edilzabrunowfranca 5 months ago
human rights .... my solidarity to the suffering people!
who is the land?
Peace on earth and goodwill to men!...
direitos humanos ....minha solidariedade ao povo que sofre!
De quem é a terra?
Paz na terra e aos homens de boa vontade!!
edilzabrunowfranca 5 months ago
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Palestine flag=rebel arab of the flag.
They Atack ottoman Turks and Killed a lat of turks.
ANd arabs thanks lawrence of izrael and Usa hahahahha.Full support israell.
TurkFascists 5 months ago
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TurkFascists 5 months ago
I think both countries should exist together for the more people the stronger it will be, I fully respect Israelis and Palestinians however I belive the Palestinians should not teach their children to hate Jews and Israeli citizens. And for the Israelis to recongnise that just because a country does not put a flag on a post does not mean it does exist and can be taken over for people make a country not a doccument. Long live Israel! Long live Palestine!
Freedom4Anyone 5 months ago
@Freedom4Anyone Sorry I meant does not mean it does NOT exist.. (flag)
Freedom4Anyone 5 months ago
Long. Live. Palestine.
78September87 7 months ago
look at these pathetic people JUST LOOK AT THESE PICTURES... theyre all pictures of war!!!!!!! stupid muslims cant see the truth...HAHAHAHAH simply ANIMALS
fastmotionforme 9 months ago
Israel's was better, sorry
donazzura 9 months ago
wow, i really feel disgusted when one of the soldiers pointed the gun at this poor kid.
Athur666 11 months ago 6
oh muslims remember your unity...remember when we had one flag..when we were one body..when we stood united...we were a wall of justice...return oh muslims..let go of nationalism...remember your duty..and remember those who died to protect this great deen of ours...make dua our unity retuns for it shall return with it the protection of the ummah...
IIprotecttheinnocent 1 year ago 27
No such thing as Palestine. Waving a flag that represents a non-entity is a waste of time.
nomejodas101 1 year ago
That kid's voice is irritating. But anyway, Palestine, keep going and growing in whatever peace you can.
platypuscat18 1 year ago
@deannabgood why is harper in this video?
mattyelle1 1 year ago
who wants to alleyhoo my ackbar, hmmm? ;o) *waves*
genxxxersize 1 year ago
@genxxxersize
Seriously.... just stop listening to such garbage. Your taste is foul.
TheMarkOfTheBeast1 1 year ago
Freedom to Palestine, support from Ireland.
tiocfaidh ar la (our day will come)
yingyangsang1 1 year ago 26
@yingyangsang1
I totally understand your support I watched a movie called "The wind that Shake The Barley" about your wars to Get freedom it reminded me alot of palestine,
Respect to all free souls in Ireland.
we all are sure that the day of freedom will come to palestine sooner or later.
lo0lo0007 1 year ago
@yingyangsang1 inshallah! <3
nba791 11 months ago
@yingyangsang1 thank you, my prayers for good blessings, for you and your family. Inshallah
SuperSaad64 7 months ago
I wish Palestine were free soon !!!
Good night !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
Since 3500 years jews have been in Israel, Jesus is born in Israel and is a jew. 70 years later the romans renamed Israel into "Palestine" most but not all jews were deported. Then came the byzantines, the arabs, the turkish and the british. But there was never a INDEPENDENT "Palestine" under arab rules.
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi When Jesus was born 2011 years ago , the state of Israel didn't exist at all ( for it was created
in 1948 by the UN ) .So your reference to " Israel " is a joke !
Jesus was from Nazareth ( Galilea ) so he was a Nazarene , a Galilean not a Jew !
The Jews never believed that Jesus was one of them , and they still don' t recognise him
as the Messiah .
The central land of Palestine was Judea , the people living there were the Judeans ,
some were Jews others were Pagans or Greeks .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly If you don't believe that there are jews who believe in Jesus check this video:
/watch?v=ux1AiYby8As&feature=related. When Jesus was born Israel was occupied by the romans. 70 years later Israel was renamed into "Palestine" by the romans. Peace between arabs and jews are only posible through Jesus: check my channel.
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi You don' t seem to know history nor religion .
Israel was created in 1948 by the UN on Palestine' s land .
You're repeating the same errors on and on ...
Peace is possible if Palestine is restored to the Palestinians .
This is a political issue so let your own religious opinions outside the matter .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly Maybe you know about religion but you don't know about Jesus. OK let's talk about politics. The palestinian shall stop the terror recognice the right of existence of Israel then we can talk about a palestinian state. But I am sure they only want a palestinian state in order to be in a better position to attack Israel. By the way from 1948 till 1967 the "occupied" territories were occupied by Egypt and Jordania and why those countries did'nt accept a palestinian state?
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi When a land is under occupation , the people has the right to resist the occupation in order
to achieve freedom . The Palestinians shall stop their resistance against Israel when Israel respects all the UN resolutions . Israel has no right on the land of Palestine . Israel is a squat . The legitimate owners of the land
are the Palestinians .I don't recognize Zionist squatters for they have no legitimacy upon this land .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly There will be no peace till Jesus returns when every muslim is as stupid and bloodthirsty like you. I am happy that Israel has got the nuclear bomb.
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi " I am happy that Israel has got the nuclear bomb " Wow ! And you pretend to believe in Jesus !!
Jesus preached love towards one's neighbour . You're defending Israel 's right to exterminate
the Palestinians with a nuclear bomb .If Jesus come back , he will protect the poor , the persecuted , the
homeless Palestinans . He will restore Justice to the Palestinians !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly Please stop your dirty word plays " And you pretend to believe in Jesus" Do you mean Israel will use the nuclear bomb against the palestinians? They will use it when it's necessary if the whole world or the whole muslim world is attacking her. Israel is not bound to the sermon of the mount. And if Jesus is coming back he will defend and save Israel. But before the antichrist will come.
tazpi 1 year ago
@Arabmanly "Israel is a squat": I like it. But perhaps more like a squat toilet 'cos enough filth has placed itself there:-)) Hahaha:-)))
Isochest 1 year ago
@Arabmanly Do you mean peace is posible when every jew in Israel is killed? When there is no more Israel? Do you think then will be a palestinian state? Egypt, Jordan and Syria will then distribute the land of Israel between them.
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi Those who are being killed are the Palestinians ( see the last massacre in Ghaza ) .
Those who are starving are the Palestinians in Ghaza because of the Israeli blockade .
The terrorists are the Israeli soldiers .
The Palestinians are the freedom-fighters .
Let's not reverse the roles nor misrepresent reality .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly In Gaza nobody is starving. There are even millioniars and their traficking with the food which they receive from the west. And what happened in Gaza 2 years ago was the fault of Hamas. And Hams was so covard to hide between arab women and kids.
tazpi 1 year ago
@tazpi Bla , bla bla ...This is typical Zionists ' propaganda !
Every one knows the truth but there ' s none so blind as those who will not the see the truth .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly If you would see the thruth you would convert to Jesus and preach the gospel of Jesus to the terrorists. And when the terror stops we can talk about a palestinian state.
tazpi 1 year ago
@Arabmanly How very pertinent. Well said.
Isochest 1 year ago
@tazpi This nonsense shows the power of Denial. Zionism and the Globalist scamsters behind it depend on it..
Isochest 1 year ago
@jawer30 It's part of Ashkenazi "Cultural" brainwashing. They will burn their bridges (or should I say breeches:-)) ) for as long as the USA subsidises them. When that ends, they are in deep kacky:-))
Isochest 1 year ago
Freedom for Palestine. Happy New year Greetings from the UK:-)
Isochest 1 year ago
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from Amnesty International, July 2 2009:
On 27 December 2008, without warning, Israeli forces began a devastating bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip . By 18 January 2009, some 1,400 Palestinians had been killed, including some 400 children and hundreds of other unarmed civilians, and large areas of Gaza had been razed to the ground.
khaaaled2007 1 year ago
we should be ashamed if we are waiting from next generations to free Palestine !!! we must free Palestine now !!!
TheSyrianooo 1 year ago
Self-defence, by destroying possible hideouts and rocket propelled grenade/gun posts
Combat engineering, clearing a path for tanks and heavy armoured personnel carriers
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
In wars, there are reasons for house demolitions, here are the reasons if you're interested:
Deterrence, achieved by harming the relatives of those who carry out, or are suspected of involvement in carrying out, attacks
Counter-terrorism, by destroying militant facilities such as bombs labs, headquarters, and offices
Forcing out an individual barricaded inside a house, which may be rigged with explosives, without risking soldiers' lives
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
And as a response to the comment you deleted,
If Hamas wasn't sending rockets at Israel and suicide bombers and attacking Israel,
Israel would have obsoloutly NO reason to be in Gaza or to have anything to do with gaza.
Yes, I know what Israel came to be, a great country that I love.
I'm not a zionist, but I am a proud Israeli.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You have been brainwashed. Look at the wretched conditions ordinary Gazans must endure. If you think children deserve to die for the alleged and probably untrue adults' actions what kind of sociopath are you? Who wants to live their life founded on the bodies of others? What have the American/Russian Zionists done to the palestinian jews?
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
Usually, Children pay for their adults' mistakes.
If the child is born into a satan cultist parant, the child will suffer.
If the child is born into a tight religious family, the child will suffer.
If the child is born into a family that supports terrorists, the child will suffer.
The child is ofcorse not to blame, but there's nothing to do.
Israel tried to make peace many time with the palestinans, and they want war, they keep attacking Israel. their problem.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI The last sentence had me in hysterics, but the misdeeds of the "Israelis" (really East Europeans) are off the scale in terms of evil. The Ashkenazi "Culture" of instilled Secondary Psychopathy still intrigues me, though. So keep spewing out the Ziodrivel:-)))
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
Yea.. .great strategy.
Instead of giving a good argument, you laugh to yourself...
Just check the interwebz to see howmany times Israel offered peace and tried to do peace, and what the palestinians reply was.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI The Strategy of Israel is that of a Psychopath. To sustain itself by manipulation of others around them. The truth is that Israel's Military Junta never want peace. This is the only way it can convince those who live in the Zionist enclave. Arafat sold to the Palestinians something unsaleable: That of only having 20-30% of their land back. But Gut Zionists want the bloody lot. Sharon crowed that "..we'll make a Pastrami sandwich " of the West Bank. But it's now backfiring on them
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
Oh.. really?
And where do you get that info from? :)
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Not from the Mainstream Media. BTW I've looked at your profile. Pretty "normal" for a Zionist. About as Jewish as I am. Don't think you're a "Kahane Chai" but just maybe a "Hear me Lord Satan" type:-)
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
Oh... yea, totaly.
I worship satan...
So wait, if the information is not from the mainstream media, where is it from?
I'm sure it's some valid source that's totaly saying the truth and has proofs, right?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Well, some Zionists have or at least had a sence of humour. Levi Eshkol, when asked what he thought David Ben Gurion as doing is reported as saying in reply "Probably Falsifying History". Mainstream Media usually censors reports of Israeli war crimes. I found out what happened to the elderly Jews on the Irene & what the psychopaths who boarded the boat did to them. Don't bother crowing to me.
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
So you don't want to give your sources?
You just say you are right and all the media are liers and you know the truth from your secret source?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Well, I know you are not doing a good job for your Globalist masters. To sustain a lie, you must be coherent. I would have thought you would have learnt that as a child. I might have a nanosecond of pseudo sympathy for someone who believes in the lie that so called "Jews" were entitled to storm in and drive arabs off their land. I suppose sociopaths do not care and cannot learn anyway even if it is just to sustain a lie.
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
I have no 'masters'.
I'm not lying, I have no reason to lie. I wasn't thought as a child to hate, I hated nobody and hate nobody now.
I try to understand a person, not to judge him.
I'm just a person, just like you, just like the palestinians.
I read some history, read what happened, read what's happenning now.
I used my brains to understand what's going on, looked on both sides and I find the palestinian terrorists wrong.
I find it funny that you think I'm some evil minion
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Interesting you say this. But your profile is full of contradictions. I wonder whose history you read? Israel has always been seen as Ashkenazi turf by Herzl, Chaim Weizmann, Ben Gurion and other Zionist Nationalists. The identities of the Mizrahim and Falashas are wiped away like those of the Palestinians. If you are truly Athiest and not a spiritual Jew, why would you care about not sharing the land with the Palestinians? I believe for Zionists, The Pleasure is in the Taking.
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
What contradictions?
Israel has always been seen as Jewish land, not ashkenazi.
It was important for the leaders to get first the Ashkenazi jews because they were in much greater danger than the mizrahim. And they 'identities' don't really matter, they're Israeli, not ashkenazi or mizrahi.
The Palestinians have their identities, some are Israeli palestinians (the one that live in Israel) and the others are palestinians (the ones outside of Israel.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Israel is a Jewish state on a Palestinian land and that' s the problem .
If Israel had been built in the South Pole , there would have been no problem at all .
This land has no religion . How can you say this land is Jewish ???
Zionism was born among the Ashkenazim in Europe .
Falashas are not recognized as Jews by many rabbis because they're black ...
Mizrahim are seen as Arabs by Ashkenazim .
Identity matters . Mizrahim have a judaism of their own and a political party .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
You do understand the silliness of building a state in the South Pole, right?
Buying lands is legal, right?
Jews bought lands in palestine and THEN the UN recognized the land that was OWNED by the Jews as the state of Israel.
I don't see how it can be palestinian if it was bought.
Zionism was born among the Ashkenazim in Europe because they suffered there (you know, pogromes holocost and such...)
I don't give a damn about religious Identity, jews or not, doesn't matters to me.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Interesting your comments. And I see their significance, too. As you play the "Atheist Druze" I see the same Khazarian Mantras filtering through. I am one for true social cohesion of all peoples in the world but I see here the usual Zionist Subversion going on. Subversives are abusers: Abusers of sane Folk's common decency to achieve their Sociopathic dreams of Dominance over these Good People. Go Back to the Squat Hole, My Russian Impostor.
Isochest 1 year ago
@Isochest
I am truly and atheist, for I don't believe in God of any kind.
I'm not a spiritual Jew for I'm not a Jew, I have no part of me that is Jew, I'm part christian and part muslim.
I don't the the posibility of sharing tha land with the Palestinians possiable, Every time that Israel tries to make peace or anything good it seems that the terrorists in Gaza start firing rockets and start a fight, They don't want peace.
They want Israel for themselves and are not into sharing.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI If you' re atheist , why do you refer to the Bible ???
If you're not a Jew , what the hell are you doing in the JEWISH state ???
Indeed you're full of contradictions !
Israel isn' t interested in peace .Peace would mean that Israel gets out from the westbank and
East Jerusalem ...Israel wants more Palestinian land .Israeli don't want peace .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Where did I refer to the Bible?
I'm not a Jew, what's the problem with me being in a Jewish state?
There are plenty of Muslims and Christians here, freedom of religion (Unlike in Gaza, where the Muslim terrorize the Christians...)
Israel IS interested in peace, There is no point of Israel being inside the westbank (why is it called bank by the way?) or the Gaza strip.
East Jerusalem was conquered, fair and square.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Palestinians don' t want Israel , they want Palestine BACK .
Palestinians don't recognize Israel cuz Israel is the denial of their identity and history .
Palestinians can't recognize a fake like Israel .
No people in this world would want to " share " 80% of their historical land with intruders .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Palestinians want the Land back.
Excuse me, but I think that if THEY are the ones that attacked, lost and their land got conquared, The conquare is totaly fair.
You say their historical land, but It has earlier history with the Jews... so...?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Yes Palestinians want their historical land back .
" If they are the ones that attacked ..." They didn't attack anyone , they' ve been living peacefully
in Palestine/ Canaan from time immemorial until Zionists invaded Palestine and chased them out . Where is it written that the Jews own this land ...In the Hebraic Bible !!!
As I' m not a Jew ( you aren' t either ), I don't believe a word of it .
The Hebraic Bible isn't a history book so your assertion is null and void .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
I don't believe in that book and I don't use it as an history book.
But look on the not far history the way I do;
Jews bought alot of land in palestine, therefor they owned that land.
Than, the UN recognized the land that was already owned by the Jews (The one that they bought!) as the state of Israel.
They got the land rightfully.
Than Palestinians attacked and got conquered.
Israel conquered the land after being attacked by the palestinians.
They attacked, they lost.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Zionist Jews owned only 7 % of Palestinian lands in 1948 ...
Palestine has never been for sale !!! Only colonialists people dare say such nonsense !
How can Zionist people buy a whole country like Palestine ???
The UN divided Palestine into 3 parts : the Arab state of Palestine , the Jewish state , the international area
of Jerusalem , without the Palestinians' consent of course !!
The Jewish state was alloted 56 % of Palestine whereas Zionists owned only 7% of the lands ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
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@Arabmanly
Your numbers are wrong mister.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You don' t know anything about the history of Palestine .
The Zionists conquered 80% of Palestine in 1948 , the 56 % were not enough for
their greedy appetite , the UN partition plan allotted them only 56% , which was already too much ... In 1948 colonialism wasn't decried as it is today so it wasn't absurd for Westerners to create a new colony in Palestine .Times have changed ; Israel is viewed as racist and colonial .
Palestinians DEFENDED their rights to their homeland .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Hey, hey, Israel conquered 80% of Palestine when PALESTINE ATTACKED!
They attacked Israel, Israel won.
I don't see the wrong in conquering lands of your attacker.
'Palestina' was never a free country, It was under the rull of Ottoman then Egypt, then Ottoman again and then British mandate.
So called 'history of palestine' you're talking about.
Can you name the last palestinian leader?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You say " Palestine attacked " , but was Palestine a free country , with an army , a head of state ,
in 1948 ?? Then you're telling me "Palestine was never a free country" .This is completely contradictory !!!
Indeed Palestine was not a free country in 1948 , the British mandate was ending and the UN just
decided to create a Palestinian state on 43 % of Palestine !!!!
Yes Palestine was under Ottoman , then British , then Israeli rule since 1948.
It's time to stop it !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Palestine never attacked , Palestinians didn' t have any state nor army .
Palestinians were forbidden to bear weapons by the British whereas the Zionists had terrorist militias
Haganah , Irgoun ...The Zionists attacked defenceless villages like Deir Yassin , a neutral village whose people
were massacred .
When an intruder breaks into a house , he is rejected as violently as he has come.
This is a natural law of self-defense .This happened in Palestine in 1948 .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
You obviously don't know what happened.
When the UN decleared the state of Israel, palestine attacked with full force.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You don't really answer my comments .
Your arguments are weak .
The UN never declared the state of Israel , this sentence of yours is senseless .
Ben Gourion read the declaration of independence .
You should learn some more about your history ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
I find arguing with you pointless.
You don't even eccept the fact that the palestinians attacked Israel first...
Use google or read a book and look who was the first attack.
And I wanted to say that the UN accepted the right of Jews to create the state of Israel in these lands.
Sorry for my bad English, if that makes it that difficult for you to understand.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI I' m not a child . So I don't really care who shot the first ...This is childish !
The UN accepted to create a Jewish colony but the Native Palestinians did NOT .
Precisely 33 countries voted yes and 13 voted no at the UN assembly .
These 33 countries in favour of a Jewish state should have created this state on a portion of their own land
because charity begins at home !
To my mind Palestinians were right to oppose the creation of a foreign state on their own land ,
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Child or not, the one to begin the fight is the one to blame.
Well, at the time, the piece of land you call palestina, was part of their land.
It was part of british empire.
The way I see it : Britain controlled the land, therefor It had the right to do whatever they want with it.
They decided to devide it and give it to both Jews and palestinians.
Palestinians attacked and lost.
Simple.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI The UN vote in favour of the partition of Palestine was a scandal !
How can anyone accept the division of one' s country ??
How can anyone accept to become an outsider in one's own land ??
The partition vote outraged the Palestinians and triggered the conflict .
The UN bears the responsibility because they created Israel and yet Israel has never
respected any UN resolutions since 1948 .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Leaders of the world, men greater and smarter than me and you voted.
They chose what to do with the land they controled.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI G.W.Bush was President of the USA and a complete idiot ...
I don' t think Palestine's partition was wise or " smart " .
I don' t think the creation of Israel was wise or " smart " .
63 years of conflict prove me right ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Bush wasn't the president at the time, it was Harry S Truman.
63 years of conflict prove that palestinians are trying to break a wall using their heads.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI I know that Bush Jr wasn' t president in 1948...
" Leaders of the world , men greater and smarter than me and you voted "
The leaders of the world aren' t always smarter than the common man, Bush Jr for example ...
and those who voted the partition of Palestine without asking Palestinians' opinion .
Chinese built a wall against the Manchus , the Manchus came over China .
East Germany built a wall in Berlin ...
Sharon built a wall in Palestine , this wall shall fall !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Your argument simply fails.
You're not even trying to argue, you're just stating your opinion and saying random things.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You' re just a little child . You don' t understand what I' m saying ...
YOU said "leaders of the world are smarter than me " then you recognize you're stupid !
YOU talked about a wall " Palestinians are trying to break a wall with their heads ".
I said those things about Bush Jr and the Great Wall in China on PURPOSE !
But you don' t understand anything ...Try to learn more about History .
Lastly we' re trying to break Sharon's wall with our MIND !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
It's a fact that leaders of the world are much smarter than you.
Most of them are much smarter then most simple people.
The wall was a metaphore, trying to break a wall using the head is incredibly stupid, that's what palestinians are doing.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI The wall in Palestine is a REALITY . It will fall ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Every wall falls eventually...
It depends of palestinian behavior.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Indeed Sharon' s wall will fall .
Like Apartheid in South Africa , the state of Israel will fall too !
Everything that is built on injustice and terrorism shall fall !
If Israel falls , Palestine will live 4 ever and ever ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
"Everything that is built on injustice and terrorism shall fall !"
Exactly!
Hamas will fall :)
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Don' t reverse the roles !
Israel was born out of injustice and terror in 1948 and still lives by terror .
Israel is a terrorist state .
Many Zionists were wanted by the British during the mandate because they were killing
Palestinian civilians , British soldiers and representatives .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI , Fuck Hamas the death cult. I love it when idiots try to compare Israel to the apartheid regime of South Africa. That is a total apples-oranges comparison.
nomejodas101 1 year ago
@nomejodas101 " South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu has accused Israel of practising
apartheid in its policies towards the Palestinians .The Nobel peace laureate said he was "very
deeply distressed" by a visit to the Holy Land , adding that "it reminded me so much of what
happened to us black people in South Africa" .
Quotation from BBC news /Africa /Tutu condemns Israeli "APARTHEID" .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Hamas is a result of Israeli occupation of the Gaza strip .
Hamas like Fatah, is a political party and has military wing to fight the Israeli occupation .
Any military occupation must face , sooner or later , a resistance .
Israel is a state built on Palestinians ' land , which is unfair !
Israel lives by terrorizing Palestinian civilians , which is a CRIME !
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Are you serious?
Israel has no reason what so ever to occupy the gaza strip other than to protect israel from hamas.
If there was no hamas and no fatah, there wouldn't be any Israeli forces in gaza strip.
And please don't forget all the things hamas did to palestinians.
hamas is not a political party, it's a group of terrorists.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI When Israel invaded the Gaza strip in 1967 , was there any Hamas in Gaza ???
NO !!! Hamas was born in 1987 because Israel had been occupying Gaza since 1967 !
Who do you think you are ?? You would like to dictate the Palestinians who they should
elect as their leaders .If Palestinians chose Hamas in free democratic elections ,
you have NOTHING to say about it ! You' re Israeli not Palestinian .Btw who are you ??
You say you're not Jewish are you an "Arab Israeli " ??
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly 1967 was the six day war, it began because Israel was threatened by the arab nations, blockade of the Straits and the mobilization of forces in the Sinai.
Israel attacked first and conqered alot of land, including the gaza strip.
There's nothing special in gaza strip, Israel gets no profit in being in gaza.
It would even be better for Israel to be out of gaza, because it makes it look bad for the rest of the world and Israel needs the support of the world nations.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@Arabmanly If you simply look on it, the ONLY reason Israel is inside Gaza strip is to protect Israeli citizens from the palestinian terrorists.
I ask you to open wikipedia and read the article about hamas, and also about the hamas-fatah war.
I doubt the elections were democtatic and fair.
Does it matters what I am? If I'm an Israeli Arab or not, does it changes something?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Yes it matters who you are . I don' t want to talk to a fake Israeli .
Israel is a Jewish state made up for Jews only .
The Others ( Christians , Muslims , Atheists ...) are simply discriminated against
when they are not butchered like the Palestinians .
Yes religious identity matters in the JEWISH state !
The Jewish state doesn' t recognize the PALESTINIAN identity .
If this state did recognize PALESTINE , there would be no longer a Jewish state .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
I like the fact you replyed only to the last sentence in my replyes :)
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI I like the way you're always avoiding answering my question ,
WHO ARE YOU ???
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly I'm a person, I'm a human being.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Who are you ???
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly An Israeli, a full citizen equal to any other.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Israel is a Jewish state that discriminates those who are not Jewish ,
especially the Palestinians ...You ' re avoiding answering my crucial question .
Do you have something to hide ?? Who are you ???
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
I'm a secret agent of the shabac, I'm here to make a propoganda...
what have I to hide?!
I told you, I'm not Jewish.
I'm a full Israeli citizen, I live in Israel.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Where are you from ???
Who are you ???
You seem to have no identity .
You' re not Jewish , OK why the hell are you spreading the Israeli hasbara ???
You said it , you' re spreading Israeli propaganda/hasbara !
You' re so FAKE !!!!
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Yet again, I'm from Israel, I'm an Israeli and not a Jew.
I do have identity, but I don't feel like telling it to people that support terrorism, for obvious reasons.
The first line in the last comment was sarcasm, you know, haha.
I'm not spreading propoganda nor hasbara (by the way, hasbara is the hebrew word for explanation)
I'm just saying what I think based on the facts I found all over the internet and and my logic.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Israel is only 62 years old . Israel's history began in 1948 by destroying
Palestine' s identity and history . Israel's identity is Jewish . Those who were not Jewish
but NATIVES , were chased OUT . What' s your identity and history ???
You' re such a FAKE ! You don' t even know you' re living in the JEWISH state .
Pitiful ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Israel's history began in 1948 when the Palestinians started a war.
The palestinians run out or were chased out, shouldn't have started that war, they could be here now.
In my opinion, when you make a mistake, you have to pay for it. and starting a war you can't win is a mistake.
Why am I fake?
I know I live in a Jewish state, but every one here has equal rights, no differences between Jewish and non Jewish.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Your history is false !
Your identity is false !
Israel is a Jewish state that discriminates the Palestinians of 1948 ( those who were not expelled
by the Zionists ...) .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
Well...
if you don't believe me, there's no point in arguing.
Our conversation is over.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI Hasbara means explanation in Hebrew . Dealing with Israeli policy ,
it means " explaining Israeli policy / Israeli propaganda " .
This is what you' ve been doing and you didn' t even realised it !
Pitiful ...
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@Arabmanly
You use the word propoganda, that's a big word to use.
I'm not spreading any propoganda.
I'm just saying what I think, knowing the facts I know.
I can not spread something I do not know.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI You used it first . Reread your comments ...
Indeed you cannot spread something you don' t know .
So don' t talk about Israeli history nor Palestine 's history .
Arabmanly 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI whats ur religion man??????
r u muslim or a jew or a christian???
03135279001 1 year ago
@03135279001
I'm an atheist, I don't believe in a God.
Why are you asking? does this makes any difference?
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
@ILIYYILI i don't get that! ?
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
Ok, I'll explain it to you simply.
Some people, like me, don't believe in God, in Allah. nor do they believe in Muhammed, Jesus or any other magician.
If you really think about it, there's really no reason to believe in Allah or any other God, ther is no proof and it's silly.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI mmm i know what an Atheist is but not why or how you don't believe in something! im not trying to get smart with you or anything i was just interested in being able to some how understand it is all!
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
You want to understand what?
how/why I don't believe in God, or why I support Israel and not palestine?
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI not believing in GOD! xD
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
Well, it's pretty simple.
Think about it, why do you believe in Allah?
I'll tell you why, that's because you were born into the Islamic religion.
If you were born into Jewish/christian religion you would believe in something different.
If you were born into hindu religion, you would be hindu.
Same thing about any other religion or god that people believed or still believe in. (and there were thousands of them)
How can you be sure that the religion you were born into is right?
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI mm well i was born into it but that's not why im a Muslim trust me! i believe that i practice is the truth! but i just though believing in something was the way to go !
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791 It is the reason you are a muslim :)
If you were born Jewish, you'd practise the Jewish religion and would believe you practice the truth.
Every one that believes in some religion, believes it's the truth.
You should study your religion and find the errors in it, then you'll see it is wrong.
For example, the quran says that clean water and see water can't mix and that's wrong :)
You can find also imoral things such as 'christians and jews... may allah kill them'.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI i could change my religion if i didn't believe it, but anyway their is way more to it than klll CHRISTIANS AND Jews! and the whole mixig water thing is mch simpler than you make it!
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
Ofcorse it has more than that, every religion has many sides.
I just want you to look on the dark side too.
How come a book that came from all powerful good creature - God- has such mistakes in the most basic things and is full of evil things?
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI what mistakes has he mad in your opinion! ? when things go wrong it is not GODS fault it is his creations fault aka us!
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791 I'm talking about scientific mistakes, such as the water that doesn't mix.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI XD really? what is the problem there
?
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
The quran says that whenever clean river water goes into the sea, the sea water and the cleen water don't mix together, because allah made it so or something...
And it's wrong, because the waters do mix.
And if you look cerfully, you'll find more mistakes such as these.
All knowing creature not knowing simple science?
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI is that all you know about it XD! ?
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791 Well... yea.
Never studied this religion, I'm not so good with reading arabic so it would be a waste of time.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI true i guess!
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
Thing is, you are the one that believes it, therefor YOU are the one that should study it and make conclusions for yourself.
You wouldn't want to spend your life believing in something that might be wrong, right? :)
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI : well first of all, its great that you're trying to read the Quran and develop an understanding of each other - because thats the only way we, as civilized people can live in peace & love-by endeavouring to understand each other! - and not just relying on some pre-judiced portrayal by a third person, or the media, etc..
Well, what the Quran is trying to imply is that even though the fresh water river water mixes with the salt water sea - the river water remains "clean" i.e fresh!
tc!
uzb09 8 months ago
@uzb09
Says you...
And what is that the quran actually trying to say when it says "may allah kill them all" about the jews and christians?
About the water, it says that they don't mix.
don't try to protect the wrongs in your book. it has mistakes, don't try to interpret them to match the truth and science.
ILIYYILI 8 months ago
@nba791
And an even better reason;
There is no proof for the existance of God, so I can't believe in something that can't be proven.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI this is upsetting i remember when faith was proof!!!! :( but whatever i was just asking ! thanx for the reply !
nba791 11 months ago
@nba791
Faith is not proof.
Some people believe in Allah, others in Jesus, others in the flying pink unicorn.
Different people believe in different stuff, most of them are wrong.
ILIYYILI 11 months ago
@ILIYYILI if believe that those who are defending themselves and their country are terrorists then you are insane!!
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini
Good.
You are correct, I don't believe that.
Because that's all Israel is doing, defending itself and it's citizens from the terrorists.
ILIYYILI 7 months ago
@ILIYYILI It's the other way round!
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini
Really?
Because from what I see, it's Israel that is Palestinian terror groups that are attacking all the time, refusing peace.
ILIYYILI 7 months ago
@ILIYYILI Palestinians are fighting Israel because they are trying to take their land...if you don't know history go to google
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini
Google tells me that in 1948, PALESTINIANS attacked and lost their land.
Most of PALESTINIAN land got conquered then by the arab nations.
Than Israel conquered it from the arab nations, when they attacked.
ILIYYILI 7 months ago
@ILIYYILI Then Fuck OFF and don't say Palestine is urs, you are defending it and we are the terrorists; you are the TERRORISTS
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini
Than who's land is it?
If they attacked, trying to wipe out Israel, and lost the war (and their lands), how come it is Israel to blame??
How come I am the terrorist, while all I do it protect the land I live in from Palestinian terror groups that send suicide bombers, shoot rockets at cities and aim to kill civilians?
ILIYYILI 7 months ago
@ILIYYILI if you guys wanna live in peace leave our country
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini
What are you reffering to when saying "Out country" ??
When ever Israel tries to make peace, even by giving palestinians land, the palestinians just keep on attacking, shooting rockets and sending suicide bombers to blow in malls and bases.
ILIYYILI 7 months ago
@ILIYYILI I didn't say leave some parts of OUR country; I said leave the country
hhittini 7 months ago
@hhittini Still, I don't know what are you reffering to as your country.
I remember back then, it was part of the turkish empire... than it was part of the british, now it's Israel.
I really don't see how you can say that it's your :)
ILIYYILI 7 months ago