Miss Bujold gives Queen Anne a certain kind of dignity, a message to all women, a message to all men- What this wonderful & beautiful actress did.. is more than a "portrayal": She, gives, us, a lesson. Each one of us knows which kind of lesson she gaves us: each one has his/her personal feelings. What I see.. is what this film shows: a woman with DIGNITY, COURAGE AND PROUD. No small stuff, not by today,s standars-
Gooooooooooooooooooo Anne!!!! you are a truly and great woman!!! Elizabeth should be proud of you because she has a woman with full of life, fiery, strong and brave.
Lol I really loved this one..."with half of your court....with soldiers of your guard...with grooms of stablehands...look for the rest of your life at every man that "knew" me and wonder if I didn't find him a better man than you..."
Thats exactly what she gets for treating mary and catherine like she did. Anne boleyn Stripped Catherine of her jewels,flaunted her new status in front of Catherine on a constant basis, according to history, "wished all Spaniards were at the bottom of the sea", and pretty much usurped each and every position that Catherine held
I love her golden words "Elizabeth shall be a greater queen than any king of yours! She shall rule a greater England than you could ever have built! Yes - MY Elizabeth SHALL BE QUEEN! And my blood will have been well spent!" Although in this movie Anne said any speech except " My executioner is good, I have a little neck and I with glad to die" before her execution in this movie she died with dignity and courage. As tells us History
@ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ the creator of this says that she skipped a few scenes, but Genevieve did say that line. She asks Master Kingston if it will hurt, he replies with a no and she says, "I hear that he is good, and I have a little neck." If you look up the execution scene from this, it will probably show it.
they have such a wonderful raport because (According to Richard Burton's biography "And God Created Burton" Bujold had an affair with the actor when they were filming Anne of the Thousand Days (1969) together.)
i loved how she played anne, with such passion, for me only this actress and nathalie dormer played her right, this is also i think my favorite tudor movie
Anne might have had a French accent she did spend a long time in France in her youth, if she had stayed there she might have lived , Henry was a fat Bastard , killing lovely young women on pathetic false charges , what a despot he was ,holding sway over innocent lives
i cannot find and film of rex harrison as henry vii in the maxwell play "anne of the thousand days." it is a shame no record of these great stage performances exsist. i can only dream of seeing helen hays as "victoria regina" or rex harrison as henry viii or of tenn. williams plays, shaw, wilde, albee, ibse, etc. a pity.
i cannot find and film of rex harrison as henry vii in the maxwell play "anne of the thousand days." it is a shame no record of these great stage performances exsist. i can only dream of seeing helen hays as "victoria regina" or rex harrison as henry viii or of tennessee williams plays, shaw, wilde, albee, ibse, etc. a pity.
Despite the French accent I think Bujold is the definitive Boleyn. Such a brilliant scene. There's real fire between her and Henry, as I believe there was between the real couple.
I don't believe Anne had a french accent - however long she spent in France - and, in my opinion, this beautiful, brilliiant actress would have made a far better Mary Qiueen Of Scots,, but this is still one of my favourite Tudor movies and I have always loved this scene. There is such fire in Anne and it would be great to imagine that this confrontation had actually taken place. Olivia Hussey rejected the role which is a pity as she would have looked and sounded a bit more like the real Anne
, if you take a side because of a version someone told you...it's better for you to know, which one has their own version...the catholic side, the protestant side...none of them are right or wrong, but killing in name of it or anything else...this is very wrong. And Henry didn't care about any of those women, he just cared about himself, he was a selfish jerk and makes no sense to argue which one he loved the most since all he acts was moved by ambition or lust.
Great performance, great film. But...are people really arguing over who were the "gooder" queen here? I mean, seriously, none of those people were saints, NONE of them, deal with it. I think Anne and Katherine were both great queens, which one in their own way, but they were both ambitious and headstrong. I'd say the same about Elizabeth, she was a great queen, none can say otherwise but she definitely was no saint, like Mary wasn't either
It is not proven that Anne had the option to save her life by renouncing her marriage. At the time, no one thought that Elizabeth had a chance of attaining the throne, so why would Anne give up her life for a child who would never rule? By separating from Rome, Henry already had the power to do what he wanted with his wives, so he did not have to bargain for anything. He simply wanted to avoid the controversy of two divorces in a row, so he covered himself with the adultery charge against Anne.
for years I believed Anne had a french accent because of this film. It is a remarkable performance though - probably the best of any actress to date. Olivia Hussy and Julie Christie turned down the role apparently - they must have been mad !
The problem with this scene is that Anne was not given the option of sacrificing her rights as well as those of Elizabeth. Politically and theologically, Henry could not afford to say that he was never really married to TWO wives in a row, so the adultery charges had to be invented as a means to kill Anne. Anne would probably have accepted the offer, as she was not as ideological as Catherine of Aragon, and no one assumed that Elizabeth would ever be queen, anyway.
Madame Genevieve Bujold was certainly an actress capable of playing the challenging female roles: Those women who gained by their ambition and cleverness things far beyond the common marriage and children romances; though this movie suffers under many modern follies: Including the projection of later events into movie present, but since even Shakespeare adds a prophecy of the blessed reign of Queen Elizabeth in his play Henry VIII it shall not be taken too much amiss.
The problem here are the poor and vulgar dialogues, it maybe that King Henry was very open and direct in his letters to Lady Anne but still their public appearances would be much more ceremonious and less plain in talk; the key thing about court life is that many things are expressed by allusions and erratic remarks; one should always strive to assume the way of thinking and speaking of the depicted time and not to mirror the own age in the past as this will ruin even the best tales and figures.
And the bloke playing Henry VIII is not so well placed as the actress for Lady Anne, as personating her as a wilful and headstrong woman who desires to make her issue with the king heirs of the realm is very creditable; but Henry VIII shown as an insecure man is a bit too much; as this king was very commanding and not kind in his personal affairs; but had he been married to a queen like Edward II was to Isabella (the she-wolf) of France he would not have enjoyed his throne for long.
Anne was right. Elizabeth did make an excellent queen of all England. This Tudor Queen made her choices not only with her head, but with her heart. And I'm very greatful for Anne bringing her into this world.
First of all, Henry never visited Anne while she was in the Tower, and never saw her again after she was arrested. Second, I find it interesting that Anne asks Henry why England could not be ruled by a queen rather than a king. Funny, she disagreed with Catherine of Aragon when the latter asked the same question. Third, Elizabeth was not much of a monarch either: massive deficits (Mary at least balanced the budget), a genocide in Ireland (which she never subdued) and constant indecision.
@ligreekguy I agreed with you until I read the "Elizabether was not much of a monarch either". She lead the world in a Golden era. She was the best monarch the world ever saw.
Ever? That is a tall order, my friend. From ancient to modern times, there are several who scarcely made a mistake during their reigns while Elizabeth had plenty. When James VI of Scotland assumed the throne from her in 1603, he bemoaned the financial state of the country. The Irish were more restive than ever after having inflicted severe defeats upon the English, and Catholics and Jews, as well as non-Anglican Protestants, were rotting in prison for no reason.
@ligreekguy Well, my friend, that was my opinion. I have not heard of a single ruler that was perfect. James VI wasn't perfect either. He was a paranoid and believed in single ownership of rule. He didn't want parlimant. So my friend do not try to persuade me that James VI was "perfect" or was "better" then the most famed and beloved Queen. Don't knock down my own opinions or I'll knock down yours right back.
@cXcarolayXc Elizabeth was a great queen, but at the same time she is glorified for being a successful even though she was a woman. That doesn't mean she wasn't great, but at the same time her gender has made her more popular. If she was a man, they would not do this much about her because it was expected for men to be good rulers
I don't like Richard Burton as Henry, but Geneviève Bujold is stunning as Anne. I love Anne Boleyn. Such a strong and brave woman. And let's not forget that she gave birth to the greatest queen of England.
Sorry for my ignorance. But why the blood of Anne would be well spent for Elizabeth? Is it because if Anne died as the Queen of England, her daughter will remain her status as a princess instead of a bastard? Can someone please explain to me. Thx.
In the film: Anne Boleyn seems to have forseen that her daughter would finally inherit the throne, as Elizabeth I. She said that earlier: "...my daughter will be queen and she will be better than any son of yours...".
Historically: This scene never took place, since she was not offered the choice to exchange her title for her life and she didnt meet with Henry in the Tower. From what I know, she also never expressed a belief that her daughter would be queen someday.
I agree this movie had a profound effect on me as a kid at the cinema and also fuelled a passion with Tudor history. Not sure what the previous poster meant by Mary? What's Anne Boleyn's reign got to do with Henry VIII's tyrant daughter's brief time on the throne? This is a brilliant scene - seared on my memory cells. It's the soliloquy from the original play. It's not exactly realistic - but is dramatically powerful and made mesmersing by Bujold's delivery.
Ann was like bibblical woman Esther a little. She protected the protestants indirectly and affected Henry to be independent from Pope. It was just like Jews were prevented from genocide because the help of Esther. Following her daughter, Elizabeth, were more kind to protestants. I love both Anne and Elizabeth very much. ^^
"Burton and Bujold got along famously - perhaps a little too well in the eyes of Burton's wife. Taylor was absent during much of shoot but, after hearing rumors of her husband's romantic interest in his co-star, she decided to visit the set. She arrived on the day the final scene of the film was shot- a crucial scene in which Henry confronts Anne in the Tower of London....
"... Upon hearing of Elizabeth Taylor's arrival, Bujold was fighting mad! She turned to Jarrott and me and said, "I'm going to give that bitch an acting lesson she'll never forget!" then took her position in front of the camera. What seemed a misfortune suddenly turned into an advantage. Genevieve flung herself into the scene with a display of acting skill I have seldom seen equaled in my career.
Wow, Bujold's Anne certainly was a hypocrite. Henry already had one daughter who could have been brought up to be queen, but Anne promised Henry a son. Once she realized she wasn't going to give him what she promised, she changed her tune pretty quickly.
@katie9918 To the contrary, she wanted to make sure her children would not be bastards and heir to the throne! You couldn't have watch the movie very closely, she specifically said ... she would prefer her child to be first in line to be heir to the throne.
@alexsanne she was not guilty the court only proof was one of the ladies and waiting say that her and her brother were on a bed fully clothed together siting down, Marc smeaton's confession after being tortured and Jane Boleyn's, the unloved wife of George Boleyn, say Anne and her husband were lovers. Anne's true crime in Henry's eyes was that she lost her boy in 1536 and that was all.
to juanmacready: Which is your problem, pal?..Bujold old?..she was 26 here, ugly?..MMMM, I think you see her ugly cause in your heart you must desire to be her..but...buddy, that,s impossible. Have a good therapy...Greetings, and good luck in your life. Carlos
@gwtwcarlos He/she/it's a troll--the same person who (under several different accounts) calls actors "old", "ugly" and wishes them "lung cancer". Please ignore it and it'll go away.
@smichelle65 : thanks for your reply. MMMMMM, this "person" seems to be a member of the Manson family, is,n it?..maybe he-she is proud of it. poor thing....patetic life, certainly. Thanks again. Carlos
Bujold is amazing here, I simply can,t stop seeing this scene. WHY she didn,t won the Oscar???, oh, I know, Maggie Smith..etc, but Bujold deserves the award. I only can compare her acting, her force, her beauty with Vivien,s Scarlett. And according to mr Burton in his book, both actresses has the same proudness, same poise. I love the way she reacts to Burton...I love her. Carlos
"Elizabeth shall be a greater queen than any king of yours. She shall rule a greater england than you could have ever built. My Elizabeth shall be queen. and my blood would have been well spent." That is one of my all time favorites. And Anne was right. Too bad Henry didn't listen. R.I.P Anne QUEEN OF ENGLAND!
This never happened, but the fact is that Henry VIII offered to let her go to France with Elizabeth, and all she had to do was give up Elizabeth's succession. This movie is based on a play of the same title, Anne was a woman of strong will and it shines through in this movie. I saw this movie fifteen years ago on Disney in the middle of the night, when I saw it on DVD two years ago I pre-ordered it. This scene always stuck in my memory. Elizabeth R was one of England's greatest queens!
@JuanMacready and that makes a huge impact on the movie why? It doesn't stop posting shitty comments on this video, because no one wants to hear your view repeatedly... you've made your point you don't like it, but why go on about it on this video? I mean seriously, hate it on your own ;D
Haha, Wether you like Elizabeth or not theres no doubt she was one of the best monarchs England ever had, and far surpassed Mary, wether you like THAT or not, deal with it.
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@AmazingAesa that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. But in my opinion, and in the opinion of MANY others, Elizabeth was a whore, a murderer, a genocider, a racist, and a slave trader. Mary clearly holds the moral high ground over your precious Elizabeth, and is probably laughing in Heaven while Elizabeth is roasting in Hell.
@AmazingAesa Well - Mary didn't get the proper upbringing - if you read in the book "Mary of England: The Myth of Bloody Mary" it explains that she did not get the proper education, she was taught by a man who was extremely derogatory. Elizabeth was taught in the new fashion, in the up and coming age. Also, she was young and did not endure much of what Mary went through. Mary inherited a few weaknesses from her father -- which was a shame. But I think England needed Elizabeth more than Mary yes
@JuanMacready - Elizabeth I of England was a great Queen, history shows us that -Genevieve Bujold was a beautiful woman and played the part of Anne well - Richard Burton - was a troubled human being but his acting is a joy to watch. Anne of A Thousand Days is a movie worth seeing - but no one should expect it to be 100% accurate - go to history books for that. Yes , there was something of a tyrant in Elizabeth I - but she was what England needed at that time - Remember Her and Her mother!
Anne of the Thousand Days is a dated, overlong and boring crapfest which rightly flopped. Elizabeth I was every bit the mass murderer and tyrant that her father was. Richard Burton was an absolutely talentless overacting ham who only copied Olivier. I'm glad he died at only 58, pity it wasn't from LUNG CANCER.
@JuanMacready - Bitterness is a nasty thing - if you do not like the movie 'Anne Of A Thousand Days' - then don't watch it - you've made your point - many times over - if you keep carrying on - it will seem like you have an obsession - let it go - we understand you don't like Genevieve Bujold, Richard Burton, or Queen Elizabeth I - your message has been received - so why not get on with something you do like!
I think this is the scene that makes alot of people love Anne B, however it didn't happen so I wonder if that is a false love based on the power of this speech. If I thought it was real I might love her more
....... I loved Anne Boleyn wayyy before I saw this.. and most people know this scence didnt happen so you saying they love her because of this one scence out of a movie.. your theroy is made of fail.
@AmazingAesa Actually, I know many, many people who do not know this scene is false. I didn't make that comment to dis any Anne B fans, but your response reminds most of them get on my nerves. You think anything that goes against Anne Boleyn is like a personal attack. Its not! You like like someone and still criticize them.
This scene is fiction. Henry never visited Anne in the Tower. He knew that she would never give up her rights and as long as she was alive Anne would be a threat to his new marriage. Also Henry broke with the Emperor to marry Anne and he wanted to reconcile w/ him. This scene is great. I like it, but it's what we love for Anne to say to Henry. She is pointing out how great Elizabeth will be.
No believed at that time that she would be the great queen she was.
The ending of this films ALWAYS hits me in the heart, watching Elizabeth walk away. I wonder if that's what really happened.
At least we know how her story turns out in the end. Henry did all that bloodshed & horror & in the end, the children he didnt want ruled after him anyway, Elizabeth being one of the greatest rulers of all time!
I never said she didnt. We can all agree that the Tudor Era from Henry the 8th down was quite bloody There is more to Elizabeth's reign than just the executions. I mean...You had to have rocked in order to have your own era! Not only that, her accession day was a national holiday for quite a while after she died too.
It's kind of like with Mary. I think she was more than just "Bloody Mary" as history dubbed her. She went through alot as a child & many people dont take that into account.
Actually Anne was a great Queen.. But public opinion has tainted that. She often gave alms to the poor , and gave them more than Katherine did. She even tended personally to one very sick man on one occassion.
No " heretics" were burned during Annes rein.
God knows how many lives she helped or even saved.
She only gave more than Katherine in order to compete with her. They were both great queens in their own right, but Anne stole her throne, which is why she isn't as adored
See that right that there is what ticks me off about some a.b fan, you say Anne didn't steal Katherine's throne, yet I'm sure you most likely say Jane stole Anne's. Also Katherine was Henry's wife and she made lots of contributions to England and her people, she was a good Queen, just like Anne was a good Queen, despite how I feel about her personality I can say that.
Actually judging by Annes other charitable acts, Before she became Queen, Its safe to say she did it because she wanted to. And theres a differance between Anne Boleyn and Jane Seymour. Anne didnt want or expect Katherine to die, Katherine was made a very good offer but she didnt take it. However Jane knew what was going to happen to Anne because divorce or annulment was out of the question.
And what ticks me off about K.O.A fans is that they make Anne Boleyn out as some evil throne stealer.
@AmazingAesa If that is the case then fine, but I have never heard of Anne doing any acts before she became queen. Also, Jane had no idea that Anne was going to die, no Queen of England had ever been killed in a divorce, she probably expected her to get sent away. Also, there is evidence that Anne expressed a wish for Katherine and Mary to die.Not to mention she was cruel to mary.
i don't think Anne was evil, but she was ambitious and rather than be a mistress she wanted to be a queen.
Then I suggest you read Life and Death of Anne Boleyn by Eric Ives.. Jane was not sweet & innocent as many think, I highly think she knew something bad would happen to Anne, but didnt care. And of course she probably wished Katherine and Mary to go away but there is NO evidence that she ever ordered or spoke of their deaths ( you apparently have evidence, sources please!)
And she was only cruel to Mary after countnuely trying to make peace with her.
@AmazingAesa I don't think Jane was "innocent" she still helped get rid of Jane. She knew something bad would happen, but I doubt death. My sources are Six Wives of Henry VIII by David Starkey & Allison Weir (I'd read both cause both have biases) and the Children of Henry the VIII by Weir and Linda Porter's bio on Mary I.
Honestly, I don't think Mary should have had to be nice to Anne.
MelinaPendelum, you are clearly in the right here. Don't listen to AmazingAsea or other Anne and Elizabeth fans, they don't know the dark side of their reigns.
@AmazingAesa She did take Katherine's throne, because she pushed for it on her own, however that doesnt make her evil. Jane was pushed by her family and really didn't show much ambition to be Queen. I have nothing against Anne I respect her, but I don't like how Anne fans say she didn't deserve to be Queen. Because that is very untrue, while Anne's actions are well documented and she was very mean to Katherine, Mary and people who stood in her way to the throne. Evil no. Ambitious very much.
Jane was pushed into it by her family just about as much as Anne was.
And besides, I feel sympathy for Katherine, but she was not the true Queen of England, she lied to get her way to the throne. That makes her no better.
@AmazingAesa In terms of if Katherine had sex with Arthur, it doesn't really matter. The pope approved and Henry wanted to marry Kat, because she was a great beauty on her youth and Henry only began looking to get out of the marriage when he got all son crazed. He had a deep love and respect for Katherine. Plus, she didn't get rid of another woman to get her place as Queen, which Anne and Jane are both guilty of.
I'd actually like to get your opinion on a video i did on A.B may I send it to you
I think he only married Kat for the Spanish alliance. Yes she was a great beauty , But I read somewhere in David Starkleys " Virtous Prince" that if he really has a choice, he would'nt have married her. I also think he was in quite a rush to marry as to show the English and the world that although he was not yet 18, he was a man and capable of being king.
And I'd be quite happy to give my opinion on your video
@AmazingAesa On Starkey's video on Henry and Kat which is online I believe he said otherwise. I think a Spanish alliance was certainly part of it, but I also think that he wanted to marry Kat for her looks and marrying his brother's wife and getting her pregnant would make him seem like the "true" king, but I also think he did care for her.
Thank you I'll send you the link. I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree in it.
HOW FUCKIN DARE YOU SAY KATHARINE DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE QUEEN! She was a kind gentle lady wh o never h armed ANYONE and even told her ladies to pray for Anne. And her daughter was a saint too! Anne was an evil throne stealer, she tried to poison Katharine and Mary and wanted them dead! Mary and Katharine clearly hold the moral high ground over Anne and Elizabeth! Katharine was of royal blood and a true queen. Anne was a whore with no right to even breathe the same oxygen Katharine breathed!
Miss Bujold gives Queen Anne a certain kind of dignity, a message to all women, a message to all men- What this wonderful & beautiful actress did.. is more than a "portrayal": She, gives, us, a lesson. Each one of us knows which kind of lesson she gaves us: each one has his/her personal feelings. What I see.. is what this film shows: a woman with DIGNITY, COURAGE AND PROUD. No small stuff, not by today,s standars-
varon1979 1 week ago
Gooooooooooooooooooo Anne!!!! you are a truly and great woman!!! Elizabeth should be proud of you because she has a woman with full of life, fiery, strong and brave.
justinandbritneyJLA 1 week ago
This is tragic ;'(
TheLadyPlantagenet 2 weeks ago
Thank you! It is also my favourite scene out of ALL the Anne Boleyn features! ~ Janet Thompson Deaver
Morgana888 2 weeks ago
Lol I really loved this one..."with half of your court....with soldiers of your guard...with grooms of stablehands...look for the rest of your life at every man that "knew" me and wonder if I didn't find him a better man than you..."
Writerandartiste 1 month ago
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rlucero8335 2 months ago
To me Emma Watson looks a lot like this actress here.
riptiderobin15 2 months ago
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Thats exactly what she gets for treating mary and catherine like she did. Anne boleyn Stripped Catherine of her jewels,flaunted her new status in front of Catherine on a constant basis, according to history, "wished all Spaniards were at the bottom of the sea", and pretty much usurped each and every position that Catherine held
nana32231 3 months ago
This was a great role for G. Bujold, and a memorable scene. One of my favorites as well. Thanks for posting.
kcouey1 3 months ago
For some reason that dude who plays king henry viii reminds of captain barbossa I know it sounds weird but he does :/
QueenWaterLily 5 months ago 3
@BlueUmbrellaGirl yes she got one, you can go to london's tower, her body lies there
larebe74 6 months ago
I love her golden words "Elizabeth shall be a greater queen than any king of yours! She shall rule a greater England than you could ever have built! Yes - MY Elizabeth SHALL BE QUEEN! And my blood will have been well spent!" Although in this movie Anne said any speech except " My executioner is good, I have a little neck and I with glad to die" before her execution in this movie she died with dignity and courage. As tells us History
ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ 6 months ago 2
@ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ the creator of this says that she skipped a few scenes, but Genevieve did say that line. She asks Master Kingston if it will hurt, he replies with a no and she says, "I hear that he is good, and I have a little neck." If you look up the execution scene from this, it will probably show it.
Born2Sing98 6 months ago
I got chills, wow
jadeflower 7 months ago
This scene alone should have won Genevieve the oscar for best actress. Outstanding performance!
v1x4g2 7 months ago 2
they have such a wonderful raport because (According to Richard Burton's biography "And God Created Burton" Bujold had an affair with the actor when they were filming Anne of the Thousand Days (1969) together.)
Jacycallista 8 months ago
i loved how she played anne, with such passion, for me only this actress and nathalie dormer played her right, this is also i think my favorite tudor movie
xloisx1 8 months ago 3
@RichardElden HAHA, OK....calm down, and take your pills.
varon1979 8 months ago
@RichardElden HAHA. you don,t know nothing about this film. FLOPPED?- guy, make yourself a favor..read something about this film. Matthew
varon1979 8 months ago
The camera is always on Genevieve,s face, showing how perfect she plays the role. This is the best scene in the best Tudor,s movie ever made. Matthew
varon1979 8 months ago
'She shall rule a greater England than you could ever have built!'
'Elizabeth shall be a greater queen than any king of yours!'
'My Elizabeth shall be queen,and my blood will have been well spent!''
these sentences give me the chills
they make me feel proud of I don't know what or whom,but I feel so proud after hearing them <3
Floberovpapagaj 8 months ago 4
Anne might have had a French accent she did spend a long time in France in her youth, if she had stayed there she might have lived , Henry was a fat Bastard , killing lovely young women on pathetic false charges , what a despot he was ,holding sway over innocent lives
25ghr 8 months ago
Child of Anne the Whore and Henry the blood-strained lecher shall be queen!
Yes! My Elizabeth shall be Queen! And my blood, will have been well spent!
AnneBoleyn808 9 months ago 4
I wish this scene really happened :/
sassuhfrass93 9 months ago 4
i cannot find and film of rex harrison as henry vii in the maxwell play "anne of the thousand days." it is a shame no record of these great stage performances exsist. i can only dream of seeing helen hays as "victoria regina" or rex harrison as henry viii or of tenn. williams plays, shaw, wilde, albee, ibse, etc. a pity.
bduhe219 10 months ago
i cannot find and film of rex harrison as henry vii in the maxwell play "anne of the thousand days." it is a shame no record of these great stage performances exsist. i can only dream of seeing helen hays as "victoria regina" or rex harrison as henry viii or of tennessee williams plays, shaw, wilde, albee, ibse, etc. a pity.
bduhe219 10 months ago
OMG such bravery i beleive anne had a spark in her. whatever happend she stood up and let henry know how she felt THE BEST QUEEN CONSORT
smileybex1 10 months ago
Despite the French accent I think Bujold is the definitive Boleyn. Such a brilliant scene. There's real fire between her and Henry, as I believe there was between the real couple.
sanmiggers 11 months ago
Yes Genievieve Bujold WAS nominated for best actress for this wonderful film she lost to Maggie Smith for In the Prime of Miss Jean Brodie!!
ohwell94 11 months ago
I don't believe Anne had a french accent - however long she spent in France - and, in my opinion, this beautiful, brilliiant actress would have made a far better Mary Qiueen Of Scots,, but this is still one of my favourite Tudor movies and I have always loved this scene. There is such fire in Anne and it would be great to imagine that this confrontation had actually taken place. Olivia Hussey rejected the role which is a pity as she would have looked and sounded a bit more like the real Anne
rees276 11 months ago
, if you take a side because of a version someone told you...it's better for you to know, which one has their own version...the catholic side, the protestant side...none of them are right or wrong, but killing in name of it or anything else...this is very wrong. And Henry didn't care about any of those women, he just cared about himself, he was a selfish jerk and makes no sense to argue which one he loved the most since all he acts was moved by ambition or lust.
nathfairy 11 months ago
Great performance, great film. But...are people really arguing over who were the "gooder" queen here? I mean, seriously, none of those people were saints, NONE of them, deal with it. I think Anne and Katherine were both great queens, which one in their own way, but they were both ambitious and headstrong. I'd say the same about Elizabeth, she was a great queen, none can say otherwise but she definitely was no saint, like Mary wasn't either
nathfairy 11 months ago
It is not proven that Anne had the option to save her life by renouncing her marriage. At the time, no one thought that Elizabeth had a chance of attaining the throne, so why would Anne give up her life for a child who would never rule? By separating from Rome, Henry already had the power to do what he wanted with his wives, so he did not have to bargain for anything. He simply wanted to avoid the controversy of two divorces in a row, so he covered himself with the adultery charge against Anne.
ligreekguy 11 months ago
Women, always shooting their mouths off before they think.
Midnightrambler3760 11 months ago
Nothing is truer than a Mothers oath for her child. But beware nothing is deadlier than a monther's curse on her children.
WINDYCLAIR 11 months ago
for years I believed Anne had a french accent because of this film. It is a remarkable performance though - probably the best of any actress to date. Olivia Hussy and Julie Christie turned down the role apparently - they must have been mad !
rees276 11 months ago
@rees276 she was nominated for an oscar though
rees276 11 months ago
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i cnt find this movie ANYWHERE!
tricia101181 1 year ago
she and natalie portman were my favorites to play anne boleyn.
dalHungryPinnaple 1 year ago
The problem with this scene is that Anne was not given the option of sacrificing her rights as well as those of Elizabeth. Politically and theologically, Henry could not afford to say that he was never really married to TWO wives in a row, so the adultery charges had to be invented as a means to kill Anne. Anne would probably have accepted the offer, as she was not as ideological as Catherine of Aragon, and no one assumed that Elizabeth would ever be queen, anyway.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
@ligreekguy even if this had happened in real I am almost sure that she would not sacrifice her daughter's rights...
QueenAnneBoleyn1536 4 months ago
this scene is amazing
1536anne 1 year ago
Madame Genevieve Bujold was certainly an actress capable of playing the challenging female roles: Those women who gained by their ambition and cleverness things far beyond the common marriage and children romances; though this movie suffers under many modern follies: Including the projection of later events into movie present, but since even Shakespeare adds a prophecy of the blessed reign of Queen Elizabeth in his play Henry VIII it shall not be taken too much amiss.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
The problem here are the poor and vulgar dialogues, it maybe that King Henry was very open and direct in his letters to Lady Anne but still their public appearances would be much more ceremonious and less plain in talk; the key thing about court life is that many things are expressed by allusions and erratic remarks; one should always strive to assume the way of thinking and speaking of the depicted time and not to mirror the own age in the past as this will ruin even the best tales and figures.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
And the bloke playing Henry VIII is not so well placed as the actress for Lady Anne, as personating her as a wilful and headstrong woman who desires to make her issue with the king heirs of the realm is very creditable; but Henry VIII shown as an insecure man is a bit too much; as this king was very commanding and not kind in his personal affairs; but had he been married to a queen like Edward II was to Isabella (the she-wolf) of France he would not have enjoyed his throne for long.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
This scene is so intense and perfect. Genevieve does such an amazing job with Anne, she is my favorite by far.
Charmedfan2010 1 year ago 3
I quite feel sorry for anne really, I think she was quite a interesting women if you look into it.
RainbowsareTrashy 1 year ago
Fanastic acting
RaphaelTudors 1 year ago
I remember seeing this movie as a child. I think it's what first intersted me in this era, and in Anne Boleyn in particular.
klwwe23 1 year ago
Oh my god I love the passion in the actress, Go Anne Boleyn and the actress playing her, you fight for women who have been wronged by men!
mckfrr 1 year ago 32
@mckfrr
Whom still do not equal the men who have been wronged by women. Every mother who has a son will admit to this.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
Anne was right. Elizabeth did make an excellent queen of all England. This Tudor Queen made her choices not only with her head, but with her heart. And I'm very greatful for Anne bringing her into this world.
diam0nd94 1 year ago 43
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I wish Richard Burton had died of lung cancer.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Richard died a long time ago. But just because he is playing a wicked Tudor king does not make him a bady.
diam0nd94 1 year ago
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@diam0nd94 Henry VIII was a great man, Burton was just a talentless piece of shit.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
ANNA BOLENA
gattoneist 1 year ago
A beautiful scene. So empowering.
TheGreatVanoo 1 year ago
I really wish this occured. *sighs*
cXcarolayXc 1 year ago
First of all, Henry never visited Anne while she was in the Tower, and never saw her again after she was arrested. Second, I find it interesting that Anne asks Henry why England could not be ruled by a queen rather than a king. Funny, she disagreed with Catherine of Aragon when the latter asked the same question. Third, Elizabeth was not much of a monarch either: massive deficits (Mary at least balanced the budget), a genocide in Ireland (which she never subdued) and constant indecision.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
@ligreekguy I agreed with you until I read the "Elizabether was not much of a monarch either". She lead the world in a Golden era. She was the best monarch the world ever saw.
cXcarolayXc 1 year ago
@cXcarolayXc
Ever? That is a tall order, my friend. From ancient to modern times, there are several who scarcely made a mistake during their reigns while Elizabeth had plenty. When James VI of Scotland assumed the throne from her in 1603, he bemoaned the financial state of the country. The Irish were more restive than ever after having inflicted severe defeats upon the English, and Catholics and Jews, as well as non-Anglican Protestants, were rotting in prison for no reason.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
@ligreekguy Well, my friend, that was my opinion. I have not heard of a single ruler that was perfect. James VI wasn't perfect either. He was a paranoid and believed in single ownership of rule. He didn't want parlimant. So my friend do not try to persuade me that James VI was "perfect" or was "better" then the most famed and beloved Queen. Don't knock down my own opinions or I'll knock down yours right back.
cXcarolayXc 1 year ago
@cXcarolayXc Elizabeth was a great queen, but at the same time she is glorified for being a successful even though she was a woman. That doesn't mean she wasn't great, but at the same time her gender has made her more popular. If she was a man, they would not do this much about her because it was expected for men to be good rulers
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
I don't like Richard Burton as Henry, but Geneviève Bujold is stunning as Anne. I love Anne Boleyn. Such a strong and brave woman. And let's not forget that she gave birth to the greatest queen of England.
MetalPhoenixx 1 year ago 2
@MetalPhoenixx Burton was too small to play Henry VIII and overacted as usual.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@Hermione1313 I think Anne Boylen studied in France, Therefore she probably had a bit of a french accent.
llyndala 1 year ago
Sorry for my ignorance. But why the blood of Anne would be well spent for Elizabeth? Is it because if Anne died as the Queen of England, her daughter will remain her status as a princess instead of a bastard? Can someone please explain to me. Thx.
wasabi1230 1 year ago
@wasabi1230
In the film: Anne Boleyn seems to have forseen that her daughter would finally inherit the throne, as Elizabeth I. She said that earlier: "...my daughter will be queen and she will be better than any son of yours...".
Historically: This scene never took place, since she was not offered the choice to exchange her title for her life and she didnt meet with Henry in the Tower. From what I know, she also never expressed a belief that her daughter would be queen someday.
pandemits 1 year ago
@wasabi1230
In Anne's mind, her death meant that Elizabeth would remain legitimite and eligible to be queen.
ZeroMyHero99 1 year ago
Burton was the worst Henry VIII ever. No wonder this overlong, boring crapfest flopped.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
anne rocks
fitzer109 1 year ago
one of the best scenes ever in movie cinema...
fitzer109 1 year ago 2
@fitzer109
I agree. I love where he slaps and she is right back in his face, as if she didn't feel a thing touch her. Men would be scared to death of that.
hotgrlsapp 1 year ago 4
I agree this movie had a profound effect on me as a kid at the cinema and also fuelled a passion with Tudor history. Not sure what the previous poster meant by Mary? What's Anne Boleyn's reign got to do with Henry VIII's tyrant daughter's brief time on the throne? This is a brilliant scene - seared on my memory cells. It's the soliloquy from the original play. It's not exactly realistic - but is dramatically powerful and made mesmersing by Bujold's delivery.
Mistersafehouse 1 year ago
my favorite scene in this movie. I Love Anne B. ; )
madame360 1 year ago
Out of all Henry's wives Anne Boleyn's my favorite
schoolgurl87 1 year ago
Am I the only one that knows this scene by heart? LOL!
VictoriaWinters1991 1 year ago 2
@VictoriaWinters1991 me too!!!
QueenAnneBoleyn1536 1 year ago
@VictoriaWinters1991
Nope.
ZeroMyHero99 1 year ago
Fabulous I love it!! I have LOVED this film forever. Any more?
SuperSusiesu 1 year ago
Burton was the worst Henry VIII ever. No wonder this boring crapfest flopped.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready ....not another self-proclaimed acting specialist & full-time movie critic....Y.O.U. S.U.C.K.!!!
gabbadick 1 year ago
Ann was like bibblical woman Esther a little. She protected the protestants indirectly and affected Henry to be independent from Pope. It was just like Jews were prevented from genocide because the help of Esther. Following her daughter, Elizabeth, were more kind to protestants. I love both Anne and Elizabeth very much. ^^
MrBoasu 1 year ago
One of my favorite movie scenes ever, but I knew I my life would mimic it.
TXstarfish 1 year ago
Hal Wallis (producer):
"Burton and Bujold got along famously - perhaps a little too well in the eyes of Burton's wife. Taylor was absent during much of shoot but, after hearing rumors of her husband's romantic interest in his co-star, she decided to visit the set. She arrived on the day the final scene of the film was shot- a crucial scene in which Henry confronts Anne in the Tower of London....
Messylin 1 year ago
"... Upon hearing of Elizabeth Taylor's arrival, Bujold was fighting mad! She turned to Jarrott and me and said, "I'm going to give that bitch an acting lesson she'll never forget!" then took her position in front of the camera. What seemed a misfortune suddenly turned into an advantage. Genevieve flung herself into the scene with a display of acting skill I have seldom seen equaled in my career.
Then she stormed off the set...
Messylin 1 year ago
Wow, Bujold's Anne certainly was a hypocrite. Henry already had one daughter who could have been brought up to be queen, but Anne promised Henry a son. Once she realized she wasn't going to give him what she promised, she changed her tune pretty quickly.
katie9918 1 year ago
@katie9918 To the contrary, she wanted to make sure her children would not be bastards and heir to the throne! You couldn't have watch the movie very closely, she specifically said ... she would prefer her child to be first in line to be heir to the throne.
yescanto 1 year ago
this is not really historical correct..she never saw Henry in the Tower and she NEVER told sbd. she was guilty!
alexsanne 1 year ago
@alexsanne she was not guilty the court only proof was one of the ladies and waiting say that her and her brother were on a bed fully clothed together siting down, Marc smeaton's confession after being tortured and Jane Boleyn's, the unloved wife of George Boleyn, say Anne and her husband were lovers. Anne's true crime in Henry's eyes was that she lost her boy in 1536 and that was all.
kaybbayyy2362 1 year ago
@alexsanne
She was not guilty. AT ALL.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
A very bad, overlong and boring movie with the talentless overacting ham Burton badly miscast as Henry VIIII. No wonder this dull crapfest FLOPPED.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
when i was 8 years old
i watched this movie with my mum and since than
i fell in love with the english history <3
BlackFairy313 1 year ago
to juanmacready: Which is your problem, pal?..Bujold old?..she was 26 here, ugly?..MMMM, I think you see her ugly cause in your heart you must desire to be her..but...buddy, that,s impossible. Have a good therapy...Greetings, and good luck in your life. Carlos
gwtwcarlos 1 year ago
@gwtwcarlos He/she/it's a troll--the same person who (under several different accounts) calls actors "old", "ugly" and wishes them "lung cancer". Please ignore it and it'll go away.
smichelle65 1 year ago
@smichelle65 : thanks for your reply. MMMMMM, this "person" seems to be a member of the Manson family, is,n it?..maybe he-she is proud of it. poor thing....patetic life, certainly. Thanks again. Carlos
gwtwcarlos 1 year ago
Bujold was a bad actress, she was ugly and looked at least thirty - far too old for the part.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Bujold is amazing here, I simply can,t stop seeing this scene. WHY she didn,t won the Oscar???, oh, I know, Maggie Smith..etc, but Bujold deserves the award. I only can compare her acting, her force, her beauty with Vivien,s Scarlett. And according to mr Burton in his book, both actresses has the same proudness, same poise. I love the way she reacts to Burton...I love her. Carlos
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Bujold was ugly and too old.
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yescanto 1 year ago
This is so cool!!!!! The woman playing Anne is really good!!!!!!
crazyloverofcats 1 year ago 3
Such a beautiful monologue!
mcflanette 1 year ago 3
Only Catherine should hold the title Queen of England!
redballoonboy 1 year ago
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A totally crap movie which rightly FLOPPED.
Burton was a talentless overacting loser, I'm glad he died at only 58.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
This is one of my favorite scenes
AnneBoleyn15 1 year ago 2
"Elizabeth shall be a greater queen than any king of yours. She shall rule a greater england than you could have ever built. My Elizabeth shall be queen. and my blood would have been well spent." That is one of my all time favorites. And Anne was right. Too bad Henry didn't listen. R.I.P Anne QUEEN OF ENGLAND!
Crazyfrog432 1 year ago 3
@Crazyfrog432 Yes, eventhough Anne could had never known that, is a good thing that I see her saying those things to him...
pandemits 1 year ago
This never happened, but the fact is that Henry VIII offered to let her go to France with Elizabeth, and all she had to do was give up Elizabeth's succession. This movie is based on a play of the same title, Anne was a woman of strong will and it shines through in this movie. I saw this movie fifteen years ago on Disney in the middle of the night, when I saw it on DVD two years ago I pre-ordered it. This scene always stuck in my memory. Elizabeth R was one of England's greatest queens!
ABookworm2010 1 year ago
This never happened historically. Henry never visited Anne in the tower.
But, even as a history nerd, I can let that go because Genevieve is so amazing in this scene.
TheFreeSpiritX 1 year ago 3
"Look for the rest of your life at every man that knew me and wonder if I did'nt find him a better man than you!" is my favorite line.
pascalocool 1 year ago 4
I think she was leaning a little to the "Mad" side between 6:00 and 6:25....still, a powerful scene tho..
KayakMan003 1 year ago
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Burton was a fucking awful Henry VIII. I'm glad he died early, pity it wasn't from LUNG CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready ...THE FUCKING IDIOT AGAIN....YOU'RE GLAD HE DIED EARLY... WHAT AN ABSOFUCKINLUTELY FUCKING ASSHOLE YOU ARE...YOU ARE GAY!
JUMP IN FRONT OF A HIGH SPEED TRAIN YOU RAT!
gabbadick 1 year ago
You do know Burton actually admitted having sex with men?
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready
Olivier was bi as well. And that matters because???
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@JuanMacready and that makes a huge impact on the movie why? It doesn't stop posting shitty comments on this video, because no one wants to hear your view repeatedly... you've made your point you don't like it, but why go on about it on this video? I mean seriously, hate it on your own ;D
spikester93 1 year ago
When Anne just agreed to the the divorce she could have lived a good life with her daughter. It was so stupid.
Schaetzchen95 1 year ago
@Schaetzchen95
dgitana87 1 year ago
This scene was 100% fiction.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
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"we were man and wife together- king and queen" Anne was never the queen. Neither was Elizabeth.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@evaperonfan
Haha, Wether you like Elizabeth or not theres no doubt she was one of the best monarchs England ever had, and far surpassed Mary, wether you like THAT or not, deal with it.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago 41
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@AmazingAesa that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. But in my opinion, and in the opinion of MANY others, Elizabeth was a whore, a murderer, a genocider, a racist, and a slave trader. Mary clearly holds the moral high ground over your precious Elizabeth, and is probably laughing in Heaven while Elizabeth is roasting in Hell.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa Well - Mary didn't get the proper upbringing - if you read in the book "Mary of England: The Myth of Bloody Mary" it explains that she did not get the proper education, she was taught by a man who was extremely derogatory. Elizabeth was taught in the new fashion, in the up and coming age. Also, she was young and did not endure much of what Mary went through. Mary inherited a few weaknesses from her father -- which was a shame. But I think England needed Elizabeth more than Mary yes
lovelystrings 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa I would just add "AMEN" to that thought. ELIZABETH was a magnificent Queen - Anne left a great legacy!!!
TimpleTapper 1 year ago
Elizabeth was a great tyrant.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready - Elizabeth I of England was a great Queen, history shows us that -Genevieve Bujold was a beautiful woman and played the part of Anne well - Richard Burton - was a troubled human being but his acting is a joy to watch. Anne of A Thousand Days is a movie worth seeing - but no one should expect it to be 100% accurate - go to history books for that. Yes , there was something of a tyrant in Elizabeth I - but she was what England needed at that time - Remember Her and Her mother!
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Anne of the Thousand Days is a dated, overlong and boring crapfest which rightly flopped. Elizabeth I was every bit the mass murderer and tyrant that her father was. Richard Burton was an absolutely talentless overacting ham who only copied Olivier. I'm glad he died at only 58, pity it wasn't from LUNG CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready - Bitterness is a nasty thing - if you do not like the movie 'Anne Of A Thousand Days' - then don't watch it - you've made your point - many times over - if you keep carrying on - it will seem like you have an obsession - let it go - we understand you don't like Genevieve Bujold, Richard Burton, or Queen Elizabeth I - your message has been received - so why not get on with something you do like!
TimpleTapper 1 year ago 4
@JuanMacready
So, in addition to being a bitter, rude monster, you also know nothing of English history? Why am I not surprised?
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@evaperonfan What's wrong with you?! Have you any problem? Stop trolling!
stokrotka1011 1 year ago 8
@evaperonfan Anne WAS Queen of England! And her daughter too!
stokrotka1011 1 year ago 3
I wish Richard Burton had died of LUNG CANCER.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
An awful movie and Richard Burton was the worst Henry VIII ever.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
I think this is the scene that makes alot of people love Anne B, however it didn't happen so I wonder if that is a false love based on the power of this speech. If I thought it was real I might love her more
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
....... I loved Anne Boleyn wayyy before I saw this.. and most people know this scence didnt happen so you saying they love her because of this one scence out of a movie.. your theroy is made of fail.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa Actually, I know many, many people who do not know this scene is false. I didn't make that comment to dis any Anne B fans, but your response reminds most of them get on my nerves. You think anything that goes against Anne Boleyn is like a personal attack. Its not! You like like someone and still criticize them.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
I love Anne of a thousand days, this is my fav scene! thanks for posting it.
Ladyjaxs 1 year ago
This scene is fiction. Henry never visited Anne in the Tower. He knew that she would never give up her rights and as long as she was alive Anne would be a threat to his new marriage. Also Henry broke with the Emperor to marry Anne and he wanted to reconcile w/ him. This scene is great. I like it, but it's what we love for Anne to say to Henry. She is pointing out how great Elizabeth will be.
No believed at that time that she would be the great queen she was.
clickgal 1 year ago
The ending of this films ALWAYS hits me in the heart, watching Elizabeth walk away. I wonder if that's what really happened.
At least we know how her story turns out in the end. Henry did all that bloodshed & horror & in the end, the children he didnt want ruled after him anyway, Elizabeth being one of the greatest rulers of all time!
ShinbiBelldandy 1 year ago
Elizabeth I executed just as many people as her father did.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Not true. Elizabeth ran a more moderate government than Henry. She was more tolerant on religion than her father and avoided war.
clickgal 1 year ago
WRONG.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
I never said she didnt. We can all agree that the Tudor Era from Henry the 8th down was quite bloody There is more to Elizabeth's reign than just the executions. I mean...You had to have rocked in order to have your own era! Not only that, her accession day was a national holiday for quite a while after she died too.
It's kind of like with Mary. I think she was more than just "Bloody Mary" as history dubbed her. She went through alot as a child & many people dont take that into account.
ShinbiBelldandy 1 year ago
very true.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
This film was a boring piece of crap and Burton wasn't at all convincing as Henry VIII.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
wow lol anne was a TERRIBLE queen but a great mother lol 6:01 soooooooo funny
Wendiliscious 2 years ago
@Wendiliscious
Actually Anne was a great Queen.. But public opinion has tainted that. She often gave alms to the poor , and gave them more than Katherine did. She even tended personally to one very sick man on one occassion.
No " heretics" were burned during Annes rein.
God knows how many lives she helped or even saved.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
She only gave more than Katherine in order to compete with her. They were both great queens in their own right, but Anne stole her throne, which is why she isn't as adored
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
How do you know it was to compete with her? you dont.
And Anne didnt " steal her throne"
Besides Katherine didnt much deserve it anyway.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa You don't know either.
See that right that there is what ticks me off about some a.b fan, you say Anne didn't steal Katherine's throne, yet I'm sure you most likely say Jane stole Anne's. Also Katherine was Henry's wife and she made lots of contributions to England and her people, she was a good Queen, just like Anne was a good Queen, despite how I feel about her personality I can say that.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
Actually judging by Annes other charitable acts, Before she became Queen, Its safe to say she did it because she wanted to. And theres a differance between Anne Boleyn and Jane Seymour. Anne didnt want or expect Katherine to die, Katherine was made a very good offer but she didnt take it. However Jane knew what was going to happen to Anne because divorce or annulment was out of the question.
And what ticks me off about K.O.A fans is that they make Anne Boleyn out as some evil throne stealer.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa If that is the case then fine, but I have never heard of Anne doing any acts before she became queen. Also, Jane had no idea that Anne was going to die, no Queen of England had ever been killed in a divorce, she probably expected her to get sent away. Also, there is evidence that Anne expressed a wish for Katherine and Mary to die.Not to mention she was cruel to mary.
i don't think Anne was evil, but she was ambitious and rather than be a mistress she wanted to be a queen.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
Then I suggest you read Life and Death of Anne Boleyn by Eric Ives.. Jane was not sweet & innocent as many think, I highly think she knew something bad would happen to Anne, but didnt care. And of course she probably wished Katherine and Mary to go away but there is NO evidence that she ever ordered or spoke of their deaths ( you apparently have evidence, sources please!)
And she was only cruel to Mary after countnuely trying to make peace with her.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa I don't think Jane was "innocent" she still helped get rid of Jane. She knew something bad would happen, but I doubt death. My sources are Six Wives of Henry VIII by David Starkey & Allison Weir (I'd read both cause both have biases) and the Children of Henry the VIII by Weir and Linda Porter's bio on Mary I.
Honestly, I don't think Mary should have had to be nice to Anne.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
I see no exact quotes.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa Well, I am in college at the moment and I only have Starkey's version with me, but I can send you quotes from it if you wish?
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
MelinaPendelum, you are clearly in the right here. Don't listen to AmazingAsea or other Anne and Elizabeth fans, they don't know the dark side of their reigns.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa She did take Katherine's throne, because she pushed for it on her own, however that doesnt make her evil. Jane was pushed by her family and really didn't show much ambition to be Queen. I have nothing against Anne I respect her, but I don't like how Anne fans say she didn't deserve to be Queen. Because that is very untrue, while Anne's actions are well documented and she was very mean to Katherine, Mary and people who stood in her way to the throne. Evil no. Ambitious very much.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
Jane was pushed into it by her family just about as much as Anne was.
And besides, I feel sympathy for Katherine, but she was not the true Queen of England, she lied to get her way to the throne. That makes her no better.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa In terms of if Katherine had sex with Arthur, it doesn't really matter. The pope approved and Henry wanted to marry Kat, because she was a great beauty on her youth and Henry only began looking to get out of the marriage when he got all son crazed. He had a deep love and respect for Katherine. Plus, she didn't get rid of another woman to get her place as Queen, which Anne and Jane are both guilty of.
I'd actually like to get your opinion on a video i did on A.B may I send it to you
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
I think he only married Kat for the Spanish alliance. Yes she was a great beauty , But I read somewhere in David Starkleys " Virtous Prince" that if he really has a choice, he would'nt have married her. I also think he was in quite a rush to marry as to show the English and the world that although he was not yet 18, he was a man and capable of being king.
And I'd be quite happy to give my opinion on your video
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
@AmazingAesa On Starkey's video on Henry and Kat which is online I believe he said otherwise. I think a Spanish alliance was certainly part of it, but I also think that he wanted to marry Kat for her looks and marrying his brother's wife and getting her pregnant would make him seem like the "true" king, but I also think he did care for her.
Thank you I'll send you the link. I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree in it.
MelinaPendulum 1 year ago
Hopefully we can.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago
HOW FUCKIN DARE YOU SAY KATHARINE DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE QUEEN! She was a kind gentle lady wh o never h armed ANYONE and even told her ladies to pray for Anne. And her daughter was a saint too! Anne was an evil throne stealer, she tried to poison Katharine and Mary and wanted them dead! Mary and Katharine clearly hold the moral high ground over Anne and Elizabeth! Katharine was of royal blood and a true queen. Anne was a whore with no right to even breathe the same oxygen Katharine breathed!
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@evaperonfan
Yeah , Mary was a saint she burned hundreds including a pregnant lady. You need professional help.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago 4
actually, Mary did not burn a pregnant lady. That was written by John Foxe, a Protestant propagandist.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
Condsidering you think that Mary was the one who set up Trade with Russia, Your source is not reliable.
AmazingAesa 1 year ago