BJJ has sky rocketed in price. in columbus ohio i cant find a school cheaper than 85 dollars a month. Shit its not like Im training to be a UFC fighter or nothing.
I know several people who have managed to train when they are financially strapped by helping out like the video suggests. just like many other fields, volunteers and trade outs for services are still common.
Yeah, just go into Japanese Jujutsu, it's the same thing. Besides the only reason it's so expensive is because it's on demand, so people are willing to pay that much to train. I train Traditional Goju Ryu Karate for $60 a month. I get 16 classes, plus gymnastics classes, plus use of the weight room all in that one price. I've been training there for 12 years, and I learned striking, Aikijutsu, Kyusho and ground game, all of these are in Traditional Goju Ryu Karate.
@BloodEagle23 BJJ is only the ground work of Judo Ne- Waza (ground technique.) You see when Royce, Renzo & other Gracies fought Judokas they only fought Olympians who had completely disregarded their ground game thus defeating them. However when Helio Gracie faced a True Judoka Kimura, he was defeated. Ever since the Gracie family makes up absurd excuses as to why he lost. Also they only stole the Ne Waza Maeda taught Carlos & Helio Judo/Ju-Jutsu. Hence Brazil needed a sport other than Capoeira.
@chavamma I hear this shit from Judokas all the time. The proof is in the pudding; judo players getting tapped out all over the show. If you think that BJJ is the same as Judo then you don't know anything about martial arts.
@chavamma I hear this shit from Judokas all the time. The proof is in the pudding; judo players getting tapped out all over the show. If you think that BJJ is the same as Judo then you don't know anything about martial arts.
@chavamma - I trained judo for 2 years before ending up in BJJ and can guarantee you judo ground game is not the same. Yes, the basics are, but the subtly, advanced technique and skill level don't even come close. I had a guy 30 lbs. lighter than me passing my guard after he trained 3 months of BJJ (why I switched). I watched a judo black belt win two fights and lose in the finals of the white belt division at the last tournament I went to. Judo black belt = almost blue belt bjj
@duster805 I'm a Sandan In Judo... Carlos and Helio Gracie were taught Judo-Ju-Jutsu by Maeda... So deny the facts and believe what you want and that might've just been your Dojo which is why you didn't learn...
@chavamma - Please - I trained at Cahill Judo (an 8th degree Judo BB at the time) and rolled with Olympic alternates to Mike Swain. Citing Helio's learning from like 80 years ago proves how dated you are. BJJ evolves so fast and is completely different than it was 5 years ago or 1 year ago (if you follow competition with deep half, 50/50, etc.). Show me one CURRENT Judoka having any success in MMA and I'll concede your point.
@HairofSteel555 - Once you get on a BJJ mat and hang with anyone with half the training time you've had (hang not beat - I'm setting a low bar for you here) and you can say it's the "same thing". Great you've learned all the other stuff but you're grappling is no where near what it would be training BJJ.
@duster805 That's the thing its for sport The style of Judo I learned is different It's the exact same Style Helio & Carlos were taught by Maeda its not Kodokan Judo that is for sport only. MMA is also a sport... Point scoring is the deal. "Lay on top a whole round", "Kick to the head", "kick to the body" decission or KO or TKO wins. It's an awesome sport & I do thank the Gracies for the UFC however dont believe evrything you see on TV go get the facts and get your research right. -Kind Regards-
@duster805 I could also just go into Judo or Japanese Jujutsu. Ground fighting is ground fighting. Just like when your standing fist to face, it's all about instincts. You can teach that guy over there 5000 "deadly" techniques and I can teach a guy 7 techniques and the instinct to do whatever the fuck he needs to win, and my guy would probably win.
@HairofSteel555 - I feel like UFC 1 never happened. No, your guy would be pinned on his back getting mounted and jacked because he doesn't know how to defend a take down. Judo is a bad-ass martial Art but when the rules are pulled, a high school wrestler would probably win on the street (takedowns). I imagine your arts probably give 12 year old girls black-belts and may have a lot of benefits - but claiming it to be more effective than BJJ or MMA is not one.
@duster805 No, those guys that give 12 year old kids black belts are what we call "McDojo's". There's about as many of them as there are McDonalds and they jut give out heartclogging SHIT in classes. TMA's are only shit today because of the McDojo's that exist. Go find a REAL Traditional dojo that DOESN'T give a black belt to 12 year olds, train there for awhile THEN talk.
@HairofSteel555 - You prove my point. You'll never find a BJJ blackbelt under 18. I've been training for 7 years of BJJ and am only a purple belt. But when I walk into a new academy I get props from BJJers because they know what a purple means in our art. I tapped my old old Judo Black Belt as a fresh blue belt all day and had to stop to avoid embarrassing him in front of his students. But I'm sure your McArt is really rad, so props on that.
@duster805 When have you used your BJJ out in a fight? Not a sanctioned match, a real fight. I've used my training in fights to know whats bullshit and what's not.
@HairofSteel555 Wow – Wow - unverifiable claims to how great your art is - never heard that before...My experience is irrelevant but for the record, yes, I used to bounce and have thrown chokes, take downs and pins on plenty of people. Every time I roll with a new white belt I’m see how dominating BJJ is. I’d bet my paycheck anyone with half the BJJ training you have would work you. But I guess we can never know in this anonymous internet world your pseudo-arts thrive in...
@duster805 The fact you'll call an art that's been successful in combat since before WWII, a "Pseudo-art" shows your lack of respect towards anything. I've rolled with "ground-fighters" before on cement, not a mat. They don't take a liking to having a kneecap in their groin or fingers in their eyes.
@HairofSteel555 -"psuedo-art" shows my lack of respect for arts that don't put up in the ring and just theorize/ speculate. You sound like you actually believe what you're saying, which demonstrates your ignorance. Every grappler knows you're not getting top position and anything you want to do with grabbing our sacks, scratching or poking us in the eyes (exactly how I'd teach my gf to fight btw) is inconsequential and just a nuisance on our way to breaking your arms and choking you unconscious.
@duster805 Karate has proved itself in the ring. Stop trying to act like BJJ is the art of the gods, it's not. You guy's are more self indulged in shit than Tae Kwon Do. You won the UFC's favorite art. Whoopty doo. Wait another few years, the BJJ trend will be over and some new crap is gonna catch the attention of the Tapout kids.
@HairofSteel555 - hahaha - Karate just lost (Machida). I never said BJJ was the end all but it's the base you build the house on and if you have to choose between learning striking or grappling, you're better off with grappling. If you can't hold your own on the ground or stop a takedown (i.e. Machida) you're doomed. Look at Anderson Silva or Chuck Lidel, awesome strikers with enough taekdown defense and grappling skill to keep the fight standing and dominate with striking.
@duster805 Yeah and what happens when you get cocky thinking you're a beast at grappling and you get tough with someone better? Getting that close has so many variables it's not even funny. Yeah, you have so much skill at the "ground game", you probably lack in striking. People favor what they don't suck at. If a fight goes to the ground, so be it. If you can't end it before it does, get better at striking. Simple as that.
@HairofSteel555 bottom line, grappling takes a lot longer than striking to become efficient at. you can train 10 years of bjj and still never come close to being a world champ, yet you can train half as long in boxing and be near the top. its unlikely but far more plausible. Thats why @duster805 is saying bjj is the foundation. Look at what happens to guys who are awesome strikers but get put on their backs with no jits. they just lose, look at dan hardy, 4 loses in a row becuase he has no jits
@antoniod999 Well thank you for being more forward and not being a douchebag. What I've been saying is that BJJ isn't the "God art" everyone believes it to be. I don't have any real ground training and I've beat so called "Jujutsu" fighters. They were good, not like they were shit, but it was all based on instinct. I learned how to translate some of my striking game into a ground game through my Karate base because I have no Judo or Jujutsu training. It wasn't just playing around, so I had to.
You know what. I have a job and I work every day and I still cant afford BJJ. I have a very cheap cell phone plan that is 15 bucks a month just texting and 10cents a minute. I want to train in BJJ or any MMA school but they are very expensive and I just dobnt make enough and I drive a really crappy car...i am really frugal. Its our economy that sucks. Mostly only rich people can train.
anyone seen the video like this where the girl is asking the guy questions about football etc? i really need to see it again but forget what its called
I'm confused on the message here. Is it commentary on how people who want to study BJJ or other martial art styles don't want to commit to it? Is it saying you should expect to pay for training?
@sheckshire. I do bjj for that price...it's worth it! 100% worth it! And I'm only 16 right now so I can be good, there's guys who start at like 40 they'll be good but when I'm 40 I'll have 24 years expirience!
@razorblade42069 what makes me mad is that my friend has a school, we've been trying to gear it towards the inner city and lower income individuals(we share a space at a rec center) and they complain about paying $50 a month effin rediculous
@kimura606 well Judo came from Jujutsu & other Japanese MA so what's your point? BJJ is the ground fighting aspect of Jujutsu that has been greatly developed & improved by the Brazilians. If you think it's just Judo, then you have a very low understanding of it. Most Shodan Judoka gets ranked a blue belt in BJJ after they joined & tested. If it's just Judo, then they should be able to tap out all the BJJ brown belts & lower. They don't. They usually get worked by BJJ blue belts.
@098firechicken Im the worse guy in my BJJ class. Still plenty of Judoka come to train and even if they have 50 lbs of muscle over me I still have no problem beating them. I have to emphasize I am really not a great grappler. This just highlights it is the system. So yeah no way BJJ is just Judo
@098firechicken Kimura said 'Kosen' judo this is an old form of judo which had a high focus on groundfighting, although I wouldn't necessarily agree with him that they are the same at least you can see why he said it. Also JJJ--> judo---> bjj, but parts have been added along the way.
In response to your second post remember that groundwork is very much secondary in judo, and that these judoka are probably good grapplers standing up, just relatively weak in YOUR particular element.
@Mr123PistolPete I didn't read what the guy you were responding to wrote, but to be fair, Kano who invented Judo was very limited on the ground. His top students were sent to the Fusen Ryu school after being dominated in competition. Maeda was one such student and the ground work he taught the had nothing to do with Judo.
@pauliesaf Back before the fusen ryu matches judo had less focus on groundwork yes. After the matches Mataemon Tanabe, the head of fusen ryu was invited to the kodakan to teach. Groundwork then became more popular. At roughly the same time Maeda BEGAN his studies in judo. Then later he taught the gracies judo, which they took, adapted and built upon focusing on groundwork.
The groundwork Maeda taught was ENTIRELY judo, whether fusen ryu influenced or not.
It is part of bjj's marketing machine that tries to deny its mother art; judo. It is advantageous, when trying to market an 'ultimate art' to separate it from similar existing arts ie judo.
In fact the groundwork in judo, that was then passed down to bjj has said to be more similar to other ryu of JJJ such as Tenjin Shinyo ryu and Kito ryu.
BJJ is a great art, I train it aswell as judo, just dont believe everything the gracies tell you.
@Mr123PistolPete Go do MORE research on Maeda chief, sorry but you're wrong. I never said the Gracies weren't taught Judo. Wiki should never be used as a source for anything either. Are you aware of how wiki works? Google, that thing you told me to use, give it a try yourself. Maeda taught two different martial arts with the goal of gaining recognition for just one of them. Guess what? It worked!
@Mr123PistolPete Go do MORE research on Maeda chief, sorry but you're wrong. I never said the Gracies weren't taught Judo. Wiki should never be used as a source for anything either. Are you aware of how wiki works? Google, that thing you told me to use, give it a try yourself. Maeda taught two different martial arts with the goal of gaining recognition for just one of them. Guess what? It worked! Further more, Kosen Judo WAS heavily similar to BJJ, which is not the Judo they learned.
@Mr123PistolPete Im sure I've read everything you have more then once. I think you yourself need to do the research. Maeda's mission was to gain notoriety for Judo, regardless of the ground work he learned from Fusen Ryu and catch wrestling, not Judo. Even better...the Judo that had competent groundwork, or Kosen Judo, was NOT the Judo that the Gracie's learned. Also, I never said the Gracies didn't learn Judo, just that Judo being the origion of their groundwork is a propaganda lie.
@Mr123PistolPete Im sure I've read everything you have more then once. I think you yourself need to do the research. Maeda's mission was to gain notoriety for Judo, regardless of the ground work he learned from Fusen Ryu and catch wrestling, not Judo. Even better...the Judo that had competent groundwork, or Kosen Judo, was NOT the Judo that the Gracie's learned. Also, I never said the Gracies didn't learn Judo, just that Judo being the origion of their groundwork is a propaganda lie..that worked
@pauliesaf I really think we are gona have to agree to disagree, I know how wiki works and it shouldnt be used as a source, but come on, this isnt research Im publishing, and wiki is pretty reliable in general.
When you google something you can find whatever info you want, as theres sources for both sides.
I found sources for my argument, you apparentely did for yours,
In the end Im sure we can agree theyre both great arts.
Dudes quit fighting over on comments on how much you know or dont know read your own comments you guys forshadow morons in real life just read your comments aloud and listen to what you guys are saying its a humor video have fun and move the heck on dont fight like a pansy especially on the net. What are you guys gonna do next wear TapOut?
Wow 100 bucks is cheap!! I pay 150 but I get unlimited training days so don't care what anyone says, it's worth it, especially if it's your passion :)
@piratebri it's up to the individual and his COACH...if the coaching/teaching methods in other JJ styles were as good, there wouldn't be such a discrepancy
@piratebri Considering that BJJ is primarily grappling on the ground, it is very different from "other jiu-jitsu's" such as Japanese Ju-jitsu. Your comment shows how little you know.
@piratebri MAN THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, MUST BE WHY ALL THE MMA CHAMPIONS DO JAPANESE JIU JITSU RIGHT?!? not. bjj and wrestling are superiors, just cause you picked the wrong sport doesn't mean you have to be all jealous lol. Go try BJJ for at least 6 months and you'll literally say fuck it to everything else lol. and if you say you have... i dont believe you... when i say 6 months, i mean 5 or more classes a week at a legitimate school with a legitimate instructor. Judo isnt grappling imo.
@sexy14487 I completely agree with everything you've said, except this "Judo isnt grappling". Grappling is basically almost any kind of hand to hand fighting without strikes. If you're grabbing or doing any kind of ground fighting, you are grappling. Wrestling, Sambo, Judo, BJJ are grappling arts.
Judo has a ground game. They just focus on throws about half the time instead. The main reason they aren't as good at submissions though is that in Judo you get points for pinning people as well.
I want to train bjj bad.. like so bad... But I don't want to grapple others at a school.. I want to buy the gracie combatives, and send a video in for my blue belt... then I want to buy gracie board shorts and a tapout t-shirt, and brag to my friends about how dana white wants me in the ufc.
I'm going to go against the crowd and take the student's side. His intention was to be a lazy fuck and only train for the bragging rights, but he knew exactly what he wanted and how much he was willing to pay for it. Like he said, if he knew how much it was he never would have come. The instructor is the one that hid his intentions; things could have unfolded much more smoothly had he just said the price on the phone.
@rmtaks people think differently though when theyve tried a class and realise in the long run they may actualy save money if they train at least 3 times a week
I have no argument that if you are seriously trying to learn any skill quality should be your top priority, and this student demonstrates ignorance and a lack of seriousness with his bargain hunting. I'm simply pointing out that by not saying the price on the phone, the instructor was consciously trying not to put off these bargain hunters and get them to his school where his probability of sales will go up. Maybe out of necessity, but he can't be surprised about their intentions.
@rmtaks yes i can see that but at the same time ive known plenty of people who never did bjj before who now train reguarley to begin with were put off as soon as you mentioned a monthly price. But when they started to do it and gave it a chance they began to think differently and stuck to it.
So at least if they give it a try they know if its worth it or not rather then just thinking of the money.
I am an instructor. I hear this from interested students all the time. I see them on facebook spending hundreds of dollars on other crap that is useless. This is so funny. lol
BJJ is a way of life. Just like you can't go without water, some of us who've trained BJJ for years can't imagine life without it. Good times or bad? you find a way to pay for it. Some motivate themselves to get to instructor rank so they can get a discount on BJJ and or get it for free in return for teaching.
But, you WILL find a way if you're serious and because you've made it a way of life!
Great vid that unfortunately is common in this day and age of laziness and lack of sacrifice.
The greatest shirt I've ever seen said "Jiu Jitsu ruined my life..... But it was worth it". Thankfully these assholes are weeded out by their 2nd or 3rd stripe on a white belt. I walk around broke half of the year so I can pay for classes and so I can drive or fly to tournaments. It defiantly is a way of life. I feel like shit 5 days out of the week, because I have nobody to roll with or even drill.
I wouldnt say I'm miserable 5 days out of the week, but I understand what you're saying. I'm spoiled that I'm with a gym that has basically an endless supply of people who love to roll and tap me out.
Sorry it's hard to put everything in 500 letters on YT. I have to drive 90 mins one way to roll. To roll more than two days out of the week, I'd have to drive another 30 mins from there to attend the other gym my teacher runs.
OMG! I have been teaching jiu jitsu for many years. I paid a ton of money to take private lessons from several of the Gracies. I have been on the receiving end of idiot prospective students like this so many times I can not tell you! This is a real crack-up!! "I want to train BJJ bad, like so bad!"
I cleaned the mats, the whole school, and passed out hundreds of flyers for months and months when I didn't have a job so that I could still take MMA classes... no matter what, if you really want to train, you will make it happen... money is not an issue.
How about the guy that you do trade cleaning the mats for training time, and when it comes time for him to actually clean the mats after practice, he complains about doing it, or does a horrible job.
so true its unreal ...add the guy who wants to get free privates every month or the guy who wants to train for free because he competes now and again ....
:o I see ya have met my old room8. LOL I wish I'd never got him a hoody, because he wears it everywhere especially to the bars when the UFC is on. He then brags about how he trains MMA and Jiu Jitsu and then proceeds to challenge people to fights. This video is about 90% of all college kids.
in terms of the gracies take on the matter... just take a look at their controversial Gracie Combatives DVD set. it's clear that some establishments are in it solely for the money. upon watching and completing the DVDs, they ship you a blue belt. online "training" is starting to boom as of late. unfortunately, people are willing to pay the cash to become a brazilian jiu-jitsu digital "master".
there's been talk on justifying the high prices within bjj schools which are similar to the average mma gym tuition. with the boom in popularity in bjj and the realization that a ground game is essential, it's only natural for schools to capitalize on this and take advantage in the form of high tuition costs. if you look at traditional forms like karate and judo, you'll notice that their tuition floats around $10-$50/month (at least here in Hawai'i). give it a decade or so. prices will decline
what a load of cobblers!!! why not just drop the price of the BJJ and be in it to teach a great aftform onstead of making it into a business to support the instructor and his or her family so he or she dont have to get a real day job!!! to many schools have lost the true meaning of martial arts, which is to teach not make lots of money!!!! grr!!!!
this video hits the nail on the head. sometimes though, it really is difficult to muster up $100/month. i'm a white belt, but i'm also a college student paying out of my own pocket. i have the lowest cell phone plan, i don't have a car (i bike), and all the money i make at work goes toward school (tuition, housing, mealplan, books). i'm one of those that can't go as often as i'd like do to work and school obligations. sometimes it really is hard for some people... ps i don't brag
$100/month is pretty good. The local flavor-of-the-day-kung-fu-ripoff costs more than that, and you don't get any real effective training at all, just more sales pitches to buy more equipment you don't need, and training seminars that will do you no good.
Brazilian Jiujitsu owns karate hands down...jiujitsu in my opinion is the most effective and efficient form of martial art...while karate requires you to master a form and perform it BJJ teaches you hands on how to not only defend yourself, but take down and submit an opponent who may be larger and stronger than you by using technique and leverage rather than strength....karate and TKD are far less effective forms especially for MMA but they do have their respective benefits.
good luck finding me without any friends around. I've never seen a fight that was one on one. people always jump in. which is why you should try to stay on your feet unless you enjoy cracked ribs and/or a fucked up face from getting stomped and kicked.
@jewspell nobody said it, you made it obvious. People secure in their abilities don't feel the need to rationalize entire vast swaths of the martial arts world out of existance by implying they constantly roll with a posse. Do you train striking from the point of view of having several friends with you at all times? Do people jump in fast enough to keep you from suffering that first punch or throw?
@johnnycache Well I've only been in two fights, and everyone involved was extremely wasted. I doubt I will ever be in a fight sober because I'm smart enough to walk away. I'm a good competitive fighter 1v1 but in a group, where everyone has been drinking a lot, bjj doesn't do you much good...at least from my experiences.
y did i just watch this whole thing? i pay $70 a month and i wud literally pay 170... love it
stang4lyfe07 1 month ago
BJJ has sky rocketed in price. in columbus ohio i cant find a school cheaper than 85 dollars a month. Shit its not like Im training to be a UFC fighter or nothing.
greenbay357 1 month ago
@greenbay357 my G, in the DMV you wont find a school cheaper then 150
cassandraaebersold 1 week ago
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henryz0r 3 months ago
I know several people who have managed to train when they are financially strapped by helping out like the video suggests. just like many other fields, volunteers and trade outs for services are still common.
bcwolves1 4 months ago
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I love this video! The computer voices are a bit disturbing, but I think it adds to the effect.
bcwolves1 4 months ago
I love this video! The computer voices are a bit disturbing, but I think it adds to the effect.
bcwolves1 4 months ago
Hahahaha. Bad like so bad
LambdaColombiano 4 months ago
Yeah, just go into Japanese Jujutsu, it's the same thing. Besides the only reason it's so expensive is because it's on demand, so people are willing to pay that much to train. I train Traditional Goju Ryu Karate for $60 a month. I get 16 classes, plus gymnastics classes, plus use of the weight room all in that one price. I've been training there for 12 years, and I learned striking, Aikijutsu, Kyusho and ground game, all of these are in Traditional Goju Ryu Karate.
HairofSteel555 5 months ago
@HairofSteel555 ...Did....did you say Japanese Jujutsu is the same as BJJ?
IpponDropkick 5 months ago
@HairofSteel555 I train Okinawan Goju Ryu and BJJ. I can tell you there is a lot in BJJ that you wont learn in traditional Goju.
BloodEagle23 4 months ago
@BloodEagle23 BJJ is only the ground work of Judo Ne- Waza (ground technique.) You see when Royce, Renzo & other Gracies fought Judokas they only fought Olympians who had completely disregarded their ground game thus defeating them. However when Helio Gracie faced a True Judoka Kimura, he was defeated. Ever since the Gracie family makes up absurd excuses as to why he lost. Also they only stole the Ne Waza Maeda taught Carlos & Helio Judo/Ju-Jutsu. Hence Brazil needed a sport other than Capoeira.
chavamma 2 months ago
@chavamma I hear this shit from Judokas all the time. The proof is in the pudding; judo players getting tapped out all over the show. If you think that BJJ is the same as Judo then you don't know anything about martial arts.
13expose13 2 months ago
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@chavamma I hear this shit from Judokas all the time. The proof is in the pudding; judo players getting tapped out all over the show. If you think that BJJ is the same as Judo then you don't know anything about martial arts.
13expose13 2 months ago
@chavamma - I trained judo for 2 years before ending up in BJJ and can guarantee you judo ground game is not the same. Yes, the basics are, but the subtly, advanced technique and skill level don't even come close. I had a guy 30 lbs. lighter than me passing my guard after he trained 3 months of BJJ (why I switched). I watched a judo black belt win two fights and lose in the finals of the white belt division at the last tournament I went to. Judo black belt = almost blue belt bjj
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 I'm a Sandan In Judo... Carlos and Helio Gracie were taught Judo-Ju-Jutsu by Maeda... So deny the facts and believe what you want and that might've just been your Dojo which is why you didn't learn...
chavamma 1 month ago
@chavamma - Please - I trained at Cahill Judo (an 8th degree Judo BB at the time) and rolled with Olympic alternates to Mike Swain. Citing Helio's learning from like 80 years ago proves how dated you are. BJJ evolves so fast and is completely different than it was 5 years ago or 1 year ago (if you follow competition with deep half, 50/50, etc.). Show me one CURRENT Judoka having any success in MMA and I'll concede your point.
duster805 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 Yeah, go train JJJ and then go to some BJJ comps and get cleaned up. What an idiot.
13expose13 2 months ago
@HairofSteel555 - Once you get on a BJJ mat and hang with anyone with half the training time you've had (hang not beat - I'm setting a low bar for you here) and you can say it's the "same thing". Great you've learned all the other stuff but you're grappling is no where near what it would be training BJJ.
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 That's the thing its for sport The style of Judo I learned is different It's the exact same Style Helio & Carlos were taught by Maeda its not Kodokan Judo that is for sport only. MMA is also a sport... Point scoring is the deal. "Lay on top a whole round", "Kick to the head", "kick to the body" decission or KO or TKO wins. It's an awesome sport & I do thank the Gracies for the UFC however dont believe evrything you see on TV go get the facts and get your research right. -Kind Regards-
chavamma 1 month ago
@duster805 I could also just go into Judo or Japanese Jujutsu. Ground fighting is ground fighting. Just like when your standing fist to face, it's all about instincts. You can teach that guy over there 5000 "deadly" techniques and I can teach a guy 7 techniques and the instinct to do whatever the fuck he needs to win, and my guy would probably win.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 - I feel like UFC 1 never happened. No, your guy would be pinned on his back getting mounted and jacked because he doesn't know how to defend a take down. Judo is a bad-ass martial Art but when the rules are pulled, a high school wrestler would probably win on the street (takedowns). I imagine your arts probably give 12 year old girls black-belts and may have a lot of benefits - but claiming it to be more effective than BJJ or MMA is not one.
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 No, those guys that give 12 year old kids black belts are what we call "McDojo's". There's about as many of them as there are McDonalds and they jut give out heartclogging SHIT in classes. TMA's are only shit today because of the McDojo's that exist. Go find a REAL Traditional dojo that DOESN'T give a black belt to 12 year olds, train there for awhile THEN talk.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 - You prove my point. You'll never find a BJJ blackbelt under 18. I've been training for 7 years of BJJ and am only a purple belt. But when I walk into a new academy I get props from BJJers because they know what a purple means in our art. I tapped my old old Judo Black Belt as a fresh blue belt all day and had to stop to avoid embarrassing him in front of his students. But I'm sure your McArt is really rad, so props on that.
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 When have you used your BJJ out in a fight? Not a sanctioned match, a real fight. I've used my training in fights to know whats bullshit and what's not.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 Wow – Wow - unverifiable claims to how great your art is - never heard that before...My experience is irrelevant but for the record, yes, I used to bounce and have thrown chokes, take downs and pins on plenty of people. Every time I roll with a new white belt I’m see how dominating BJJ is. I’d bet my paycheck anyone with half the BJJ training you have would work you. But I guess we can never know in this anonymous internet world your pseudo-arts thrive in...
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 The fact you'll call an art that's been successful in combat since before WWII, a "Pseudo-art" shows your lack of respect towards anything. I've rolled with "ground-fighters" before on cement, not a mat. They don't take a liking to having a kneecap in their groin or fingers in their eyes.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 -"psuedo-art" shows my lack of respect for arts that don't put up in the ring and just theorize/ speculate. You sound like you actually believe what you're saying, which demonstrates your ignorance. Every grappler knows you're not getting top position and anything you want to do with grabbing our sacks, scratching or poking us in the eyes (exactly how I'd teach my gf to fight btw) is inconsequential and just a nuisance on our way to breaking your arms and choking you unconscious.
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 Karate has proved itself in the ring. Stop trying to act like BJJ is the art of the gods, it's not. You guy's are more self indulged in shit than Tae Kwon Do. You won the UFC's favorite art. Whoopty doo. Wait another few years, the BJJ trend will be over and some new crap is gonna catch the attention of the Tapout kids.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 - hahaha - Karate just lost (Machida). I never said BJJ was the end all but it's the base you build the house on and if you have to choose between learning striking or grappling, you're better off with grappling. If you can't hold your own on the ground or stop a takedown (i.e. Machida) you're doomed. Look at Anderson Silva or Chuck Lidel, awesome strikers with enough taekdown defense and grappling skill to keep the fight standing and dominate with striking.
duster805 1 month ago
@duster805 Yeah and what happens when you get cocky thinking you're a beast at grappling and you get tough with someone better? Getting that close has so many variables it's not even funny. Yeah, you have so much skill at the "ground game", you probably lack in striking. People favor what they don't suck at. If a fight goes to the ground, so be it. If you can't end it before it does, get better at striking. Simple as that.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
@HairofSteel555 bottom line, grappling takes a lot longer than striking to become efficient at. you can train 10 years of bjj and still never come close to being a world champ, yet you can train half as long in boxing and be near the top. its unlikely but far more plausible. Thats why @duster805 is saying bjj is the foundation. Look at what happens to guys who are awesome strikers but get put on their backs with no jits. they just lose, look at dan hardy, 4 loses in a row becuase he has no jits
antoniod999 1 month ago
@antoniod999 Well thank you for being more forward and not being a douchebag. What I've been saying is that BJJ isn't the "God art" everyone believes it to be. I don't have any real ground training and I've beat so called "Jujutsu" fighters. They were good, not like they were shit, but it was all based on instinct. I learned how to translate some of my striking game into a ground game through my Karate base because I have no Judo or Jujutsu training. It wasn't just playing around, so I had to.
HairofSteel555 1 month ago
You know what. I have a job and I work every day and I still cant afford BJJ. I have a very cheap cell phone plan that is 15 bucks a month just texting and 10cents a minute. I want to train in BJJ or any MMA school but they are very expensive and I just dobnt make enough and I drive a really crappy car...i am really frugal. Its our economy that sucks. Mostly only rich people can train.
MaharlikaAWA 5 months ago 2
@cragzzz i concquer
iGreekSalad 6 months ago
Aikido is 12$ per month.. And one of the best selfdefence sports in the world maybe try that u lil bear ^-^
okebasoccerplayer 6 months ago
@okebasoccerplayer
Aikido is shit.
cragzzz 6 months ago
omg $100 man! that's ghetto prices. Dang that is super cheap man. WTF is wrong with you if your complaining sell ur food stamps or some shit.
26jess 6 months ago
anyone seen the video like this where the girl is asking the guy questions about football etc? i really need to see it again but forget what its called
TheySayin25 6 months ago
$100 a month is cheap where Im from. Most of the schools are $150 and up.
movesguy 7 months ago 6
@movesguy lol here in the UK i train judoo n per month i pay £24 a month wich is $50 haha
alphie10 5 months ago in playlist judo 2011 part 1
I'm confused on the message here. Is it commentary on how people who want to study BJJ or other martial art styles don't want to commit to it? Is it saying you should expect to pay for training?
NickBoettcher 7 months ago
@sheckshire. I do bjj for that price...it's worth it! 100% worth it! And I'm only 16 right now so I can be good, there's guys who start at like 40 they'll be good but when I'm 40 I'll have 24 years expirience!
Bmxthegr8 7 months ago 4
Like so bad.
MattitudeSupporter 8 months ago
but i really want to train bee jay jay bad, like so bad
Misame5 8 months ago
He would be covered in tap out gear as well
apmallstars 8 months ago
Yes, Gracie's were taught Judo by Maeda. That is fact.
Helio Gracie, the smallest Gracie, could not practice Judo as well as his brothers, so he invented a new way to do it. Now we have BJJ.
BJJXguard 8 months ago
they left out the part where he called it jitz
punisher00109 9 months ago
This is awesome! Ha ha ha.
MartialArtsaXis 9 months ago
Sorry for the double posts and I wrote two because youtube wasn't showing my first post
pauliesaf 9 months ago
Eh...I still have to clean the mats and pay full price.
AverageAsianMe 9 months ago
LOL!!!
----> *Spends less on other things to pay for training...*
samuraiartguy 10 months ago
$100.00 dollars a month is pretty cheap for martial arts lessons.
zambimaru 10 months ago
they fed me the same crap when i tride looking around for prices. greedy basterds
shechshire 10 months ago
now that was funny, like so funny
chutuoh 11 months ago
$100 a month? Where's this school at? That's cheap.
razorblade42069 11 months ago
@razorblade42069 what makes me mad is that my friend has a school, we've been trying to gear it towards the inner city and lower income individuals(we share a space at a rec center) and they complain about paying $50 a month effin rediculous
Juicelee777ssj 10 months ago
This is funny cuz it reminds me of myself when I started BJJ like two weeks ago -.-
TakeshixStudios 11 months ago
OMFG, a school owner had to have made this. Textbook situation if you've every ran a school! Amazing!
BadMonkeyFightShop 11 months ago
Truthfully bjj is actually expensive.
fijianboy91 11 months ago
Kosen Judo. A rose by any other name!
kimura606 11 months ago
@kimura606 well Judo came from Jujutsu & other Japanese MA so what's your point? BJJ is the ground fighting aspect of Jujutsu that has been greatly developed & improved by the Brazilians. If you think it's just Judo, then you have a very low understanding of it. Most Shodan Judoka gets ranked a blue belt in BJJ after they joined & tested. If it's just Judo, then they should be able to tap out all the BJJ brown belts & lower. They don't. They usually get worked by BJJ blue belts.
098firechicken 11 months ago
@098firechicken Im the worse guy in my BJJ class. Still plenty of Judoka come to train and even if they have 50 lbs of muscle over me I still have no problem beating them. I have to emphasize I am really not a great grappler. This just highlights it is the system. So yeah no way BJJ is just Judo
bigtimepimpin666 11 months ago
@098firechicken Kimura said 'Kosen' judo this is an old form of judo which had a high focus on groundfighting, although I wouldn't necessarily agree with him that they are the same at least you can see why he said it. Also JJJ--> judo---> bjj, but parts have been added along the way.
In response to your second post remember that groundwork is very much secondary in judo, and that these judoka are probably good grapplers standing up, just relatively weak in YOUR particular element.
Mr123PistolPete 11 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete I didn't read what the guy you were responding to wrote, but to be fair, Kano who invented Judo was very limited on the ground. His top students were sent to the Fusen Ryu school after being dominated in competition. Maeda was one such student and the ground work he taught the had nothing to do with Judo.
pauliesaf 10 months ago
@pauliesaf Back before the fusen ryu matches judo had less focus on groundwork yes. After the matches Mataemon Tanabe, the head of fusen ryu was invited to the kodakan to teach. Groundwork then became more popular. At roughly the same time Maeda BEGAN his studies in judo. Then later he taught the gracies judo, which they took, adapted and built upon focusing on groundwork.
The groundwork Maeda taught was ENTIRELY judo, whether fusen ryu influenced or not.
Mr123PistolPete 10 months ago
It is part of bjj's marketing machine that tries to deny its mother art; judo. It is advantageous, when trying to market an 'ultimate art' to separate it from similar existing arts ie judo.
In fact the groundwork in judo, that was then passed down to bjj has said to be more similar to other ryu of JJJ such as Tenjin Shinyo ryu and Kito ryu.
BJJ is a great art, I train it aswell as judo, just dont believe everything the gracies tell you.
Mr123PistolPete 10 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete Wrong. Maeda was sent to the Fusen Ryu and was already a top Judoka.
pauliesaf 9 months ago
@pauliesaf Whether or not he was even sent to fusen ryu is irrelevant, and what I read leads me to believe its incorrect, google it.
The gracies were taught judo, pretty much every online source agrees with me, read Maeda's wiki page for godsake.
Mr123PistolPete 9 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete Go do MORE research on Maeda chief, sorry but you're wrong. I never said the Gracies weren't taught Judo. Wiki should never be used as a source for anything either. Are you aware of how wiki works? Google, that thing you told me to use, give it a try yourself. Maeda taught two different martial arts with the goal of gaining recognition for just one of them. Guess what? It worked!
pauliesaf 9 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete Go do MORE research on Maeda chief, sorry but you're wrong. I never said the Gracies weren't taught Judo. Wiki should never be used as a source for anything either. Are you aware of how wiki works? Google, that thing you told me to use, give it a try yourself. Maeda taught two different martial arts with the goal of gaining recognition for just one of them. Guess what? It worked! Further more, Kosen Judo WAS heavily similar to BJJ, which is not the Judo they learned.
pauliesaf 9 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete Im sure I've read everything you have more then once. I think you yourself need to do the research. Maeda's mission was to gain notoriety for Judo, regardless of the ground work he learned from Fusen Ryu and catch wrestling, not Judo. Even better...the Judo that had competent groundwork, or Kosen Judo, was NOT the Judo that the Gracie's learned. Also, I never said the Gracies didn't learn Judo, just that Judo being the origion of their groundwork is a propaganda lie.
pauliesaf 9 months ago
@Mr123PistolPete Im sure I've read everything you have more then once. I think you yourself need to do the research. Maeda's mission was to gain notoriety for Judo, regardless of the ground work he learned from Fusen Ryu and catch wrestling, not Judo. Even better...the Judo that had competent groundwork, or Kosen Judo, was NOT the Judo that the Gracie's learned. Also, I never said the Gracies didn't learn Judo, just that Judo being the origion of their groundwork is a propaganda lie..that worked
pauliesaf 9 months ago
@pauliesaf I really think we are gona have to agree to disagree, I know how wiki works and it shouldnt be used as a source, but come on, this isnt research Im publishing, and wiki is pretty reliable in general.
When you google something you can find whatever info you want, as theres sources for both sides.
I found sources for my argument, you apparentely did for yours,
In the end Im sure we can agree theyre both great arts.
Peace and happy training.
Mr123PistolPete 9 months ago
Dudes quit fighting over on comments on how much you know or dont know read your own comments you guys forshadow morons in real life just read your comments aloud and listen to what you guys are saying its a humor video have fun and move the heck on dont fight like a pansy especially on the net. What are you guys gonna do next wear TapOut?
chavamma 1 year ago
SO TRUE !!
121069 1 year ago
SO TRUE
121069 1 year ago
we need MORE of such movies, this and the iphone one really killed me :P
waldomarek 1 year ago
Wow 100 bucks is cheap!! I pay 150 but I get unlimited training days so don't care what anyone says, it's worth it, especially if it's your passion :)
GsxR750Speedemon 1 year ago
i love bjj...grappling is great..i'd pay 100+ for a good school any day.
grapplerify 1 year ago
You pay $40 extra dollars for the word "Brazillian". If you go to any other type of jiu-jitsu school, it's about half the price.
A lot of people think that BJJ is superior, so pay the extra, but the truth is, the other forms of jiu-jitsu are equally good.
Up to the individual, but just know that BJJ isn't the only form of jiu-jitsu.
piratebri 1 year ago
@piratebri it's up to the individual and his COACH...if the coaching/teaching methods in other JJ styles were as good, there wouldn't be such a discrepancy
lethalchickenent 1 year ago
@piratebri Considering that BJJ is primarily grappling on the ground, it is very different from "other jiu-jitsu's" such as Japanese Ju-jitsu. Your comment shows how little you know.
wilsonc91 1 year ago
@wilsonc91 Although...it used to be Japanese. :P Google: "Fusen Ryu"
Donatellangelo 1 year ago
@piratebri MAN THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, MUST BE WHY ALL THE MMA CHAMPIONS DO JAPANESE JIU JITSU RIGHT?!? not. bjj and wrestling are superiors, just cause you picked the wrong sport doesn't mean you have to be all jealous lol. Go try BJJ for at least 6 months and you'll literally say fuck it to everything else lol. and if you say you have... i dont believe you... when i say 6 months, i mean 5 or more classes a week at a legitimate school with a legitimate instructor. Judo isnt grappling imo.
sexy14487 10 months ago
@sexy14487 I completely agree with everything you've said, except this "Judo isnt grappling". Grappling is basically almost any kind of hand to hand fighting without strikes. If you're grabbing or doing any kind of ground fighting, you are grappling. Wrestling, Sambo, Judo, BJJ are grappling arts.
Judo has a ground game. They just focus on throws about half the time instead. The main reason they aren't as good at submissions though is that in Judo you get points for pinning people as well.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
19 people can't afford "Bee Jay Jay"
gearsrulz 1 year ago 22
lol, this is hilarious.i do think its expensive. i would totally do bjj if i could help out at a school.
amrwg6111 1 year ago
I want to train bjj bad.. like so bad... But I don't want to grapple others at a school.. I want to buy the gracie combatives, and send a video in for my blue belt... then I want to buy gracie board shorts and a tapout t-shirt, and brag to my friends about how dana white wants me in the ufc.
carlsongracieteam 1 year ago 8
100 dollars a month isn't bad.
AverageAsianMe 1 year ago
how much for me to walk around and tell people i'm a mma fighter?
DrrriftIt 1 year ago
this video is halarious rofl
DoomCatcher 1 year ago
I'm going to go against the crowd and take the student's side. His intention was to be a lazy fuck and only train for the bragging rights, but he knew exactly what he wanted and how much he was willing to pay for it. Like he said, if he knew how much it was he never would have come. The instructor is the one that hid his intentions; things could have unfolded much more smoothly had he just said the price on the phone.
rmtaks 1 year ago 3
@rmtaks people think differently though when theyve tried a class and realise in the long run they may actualy save money if they train at least 3 times a week
DoomCatcher 1 year ago
@DoomCatcher
I have no argument that if you are seriously trying to learn any skill quality should be your top priority, and this student demonstrates ignorance and a lack of seriousness with his bargain hunting. I'm simply pointing out that by not saying the price on the phone, the instructor was consciously trying not to put off these bargain hunters and get them to his school where his probability of sales will go up. Maybe out of necessity, but he can't be surprised about their intentions.
rmtaks 1 year ago
@rmtaks yes i can see that but at the same time ive known plenty of people who never did bjj before who now train reguarley to begin with were put off as soon as you mentioned a monthly price. But when they started to do it and gave it a chance they began to think differently and stuck to it.
So at least if they give it a try they know if its worth it or not rather then just thinking of the money.
DoomCatcher 1 year ago
Why is it not being referred to in the proper manner of "ZHOO ZHITSOOO"?
aardvarksk 1 year ago
I am an instructor. I hear this from interested students all the time. I see them on facebook spending hundreds of dollars on other crap that is useless. This is so funny. lol
jeffreyjosephrobert 1 year ago
Lmfao too many memories of hearing this shit at north park undisputed working behind the desk , just wanna slap people like that
SDUndisputed 1 year ago
story of my life!
bjjfighter87 1 year ago
BJJ is a way of life. Just like you can't go without water, some of us who've trained BJJ for years can't imagine life without it. Good times or bad? you find a way to pay for it. Some motivate themselves to get to instructor rank so they can get a discount on BJJ and or get it for free in return for teaching.
But, you WILL find a way if you're serious and because you've made it a way of life!
Great vid that unfortunately is common in this day and age of laziness and lack of sacrifice.
GuardianAngel5150 1 year ago
@GuardianAngel5150
The greatest shirt I've ever seen said "Jiu Jitsu ruined my life..... But it was worth it". Thankfully these assholes are weeded out by their 2nd or 3rd stripe on a white belt. I walk around broke half of the year so I can pay for classes and so I can drive or fly to tournaments. It defiantly is a way of life. I feel like shit 5 days out of the week, because I have nobody to roll with or even drill.
AmericanFenian 1 year ago
@AmericanFenian Lol.
I wouldnt say I'm miserable 5 days out of the week, but I understand what you're saying. I'm spoiled that I'm with a gym that has basically an endless supply of people who love to roll and tap me out.
lol.
GuardianAngel5150 1 year ago
@GuardianAngel5150
Sorry it's hard to put everything in 500 letters on YT. I have to drive 90 mins one way to roll. To roll more than two days out of the week, I'd have to drive another 30 mins from there to attend the other gym my teacher runs.
AmericanFenian 1 year ago 2
it's so stupid
udahuda 1 year ago
This is so funny. We love it!
3LBJJ 1 year ago
18 people don't have 100$ per month and gas out after 1 match but want to train bjj bad..... like so bad......
jiujitsuG0D 1 year ago
I prefer the "Dana White negotiates for Fedor" series.
FireProMMA 1 year ago
OMG! I have been teaching jiu jitsu for many years. I paid a ton of money to take private lessons from several of the Gracies. I have been on the receiving end of idiot prospective students like this so many times I can not tell you! This is a real crack-up!! "I want to train BJJ bad, like so bad!"
xflyingtiger 1 year ago
LOL...
chavamma 1 year ago
I cleaned the mats, the whole school, and passed out hundreds of flyers for months and months when I didn't have a job so that I could still take MMA classes... no matter what, if you really want to train, you will make it happen... money is not an issue.
RurouniHeart 1 year ago
I really want to train BJJ bad........like so bad.
xxXLag0Xxx 1 year ago
I want to train BJJ bad. Like so bad.
cartoonsfut 1 year ago
I wish I could do chores around the gym for free training.
Tronzxz 1 year ago
Dude i pay 120! this guy is getting a deal lol.
Kabu1i 1 year ago
SO true
kevinbieschke 1 year ago
this video is like so bad! :D
mrlizard888 1 year ago
How about the guy that you do trade cleaning the mats for training time, and when it comes time for him to actually clean the mats after practice, he complains about doing it, or does a horrible job.
bobaki2003 1 year ago 2
The justice is that at some point down the road, One of these a-holes will cross a REAL practitioner and get handed their aforesaid mentioned ass!
L7Sage 1 year ago
like so bad
PrivateIrishmayne 1 year ago
so true its unreal ...add the guy who wants to get free privates every month or the guy who wants to train for free because he competes now and again ....
Galacticus07 1 year ago
The eyes... bother me.
Iteachu2beninja 1 year ago
The only part they left out was how the guy would buy the school t-shirt and where it everywhere even though he never trained.
RichMorti 1 year ago 32
@RichMorti
:o I see ya have met my old room8. LOL I wish I'd never got him a hoody, because he wears it everywhere especially to the bars when the UFC is on. He then brags about how he trains MMA and Jiu Jitsu and then proceeds to challenge people to fights. This video is about 90% of all college kids.
AmericanFenian 1 year ago
@RichMorti Oh man! You hit the bulls-eye with that one!
LionsDenJJ 1 year ago
in terms of the gracies take on the matter... just take a look at their controversial Gracie Combatives DVD set. it's clear that some establishments are in it solely for the money. upon watching and completing the DVDs, they ship you a blue belt. online "training" is starting to boom as of late. unfortunately, people are willing to pay the cash to become a brazilian jiu-jitsu digital "master".
808raised 1 year ago
there's been talk on justifying the high prices within bjj schools which are similar to the average mma gym tuition. with the boom in popularity in bjj and the realization that a ground game is essential, it's only natural for schools to capitalize on this and take advantage in the form of high tuition costs. if you look at traditional forms like karate and judo, you'll notice that their tuition floats around $10-$50/month (at least here in Hawai'i). give it a decade or so. prices will decline
808raised 1 year ago
what a load of cobblers!!! why not just drop the price of the BJJ and be in it to teach a great aftform onstead of making it into a business to support the instructor and his or her family so he or she dont have to get a real day job!!! to many schools have lost the true meaning of martial arts, which is to teach not make lots of money!!!! grr!!!!
gazza363 1 year ago
sooo funny! and true also!
youngdeezy1990 1 year ago
CREONTE!!!!!
vkirk91 1 year ago
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Ahahaha, classic. "I want to train bjj bad, like so baad"
djmelissab 1 year ago
Ahahaha, classic. "I want to train bjj bad, like so baad"
djmelissab 1 year ago
I want to train Bee Jay Jay bad... like so bad!
SenseiKrush 1 year ago
this video hits the nail on the head. sometimes though, it really is difficult to muster up $100/month. i'm a white belt, but i'm also a college student paying out of my own pocket. i have the lowest cell phone plan, i don't have a car (i bike), and all the money i make at work goes toward school (tuition, housing, mealplan, books). i'm one of those that can't go as often as i'd like do to work and school obligations. sometimes it really is hard for some people... ps i don't brag
808raised 1 year ago 2
@808raised Trane Judo
mthai66 1 year ago 2
@808raised
read the book "debt free U: How I paid cash for an outstanding college education"
johnnycache 1 year ago
I'm not impressed by this performance..
spiderFYM 1 year ago
12 people don't have 100$ to train bjj like bad.... like soooooo bad...
jiujitsuG0D 1 year ago 3
I own a mixed martial arts school and I've had customers like this!! LOL!!
DLe0110 1 year ago
The best video
RCSSpence 1 year ago
COMEDY
themondoshow 1 year ago
Oozing with win
solemngreavance 1 year ago
Lol Story of my life
Fire4OG2Kush0 1 year ago
This is so hilarious! " I want to go to the bar with my friends and watch ufc and tell them how good I am at the ground game"! video of the year!
haywardbjj 1 year ago
how do youy make these videos, ive seen similar ones about the iphone, is there a special webiste and you just enter the dialogue?
MayeEntertainment 1 year ago
@MayeEntertainment xtranormal
TheVetted 1 year ago
@TheVetted thanks alot
MayeEntertainment 1 year ago
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MayeEntertainment 1 year ago
video of the year!
blackbarro 1 year ago
$100/month is pretty good. The local flavor-of-the-day-kung-fu-ripoff costs more than that, and you don't get any real effective training at all, just more sales pitches to buy more equipment you don't need, and training seminars that will do you no good.
I wish I could find judo locally.
Cayvmann 1 year ago
Awesome
Supermanaldridge1 1 year ago
Awesome
Supermanaldridge1 1 year ago
I'd rather train you eff see
ihatevoyager 1 year ago
Brazilian Jiujitsu owns karate hands down...jiujitsu in my opinion is the most effective and efficient form of martial art...while karate requires you to master a form and perform it BJJ teaches you hands on how to not only defend yourself, but take down and submit an opponent who may be larger and stronger than you by using technique and leverage rather than strength....karate and TKD are far less effective forms especially for MMA but they do have their respective benefits.
TheAuToMaTiC82 1 year ago
@TheAuToMaTiC82
in a competitive fight maybe but you don't want to take a street fight to the ground
jewspell 1 year ago
@jewspell Isn't there a dead horse you should be beating?
helmutlvx 1 year ago
@jewspell good luck staying off the ground without preparing for it. you have fun with that.
johnnycache 1 year ago
@johnnycache
good luck finding me without any friends around. I've never seen a fight that was one on one. people always jump in. which is why you should try to stay on your feet unless you enjoy cracked ribs and/or a fucked up face from getting stomped and kicked.
ps: who said I wasn't prepared for it?
jewspell 1 year ago
And when you get taken down despite your best efforts?
CountBezukhov 1 year ago
@CountBezukhov
we both get the shit kicked out of us
jewspell 1 year ago
@jewspell nobody said it, you made it obvious. People secure in their abilities don't feel the need to rationalize entire vast swaths of the martial arts world out of existance by implying they constantly roll with a posse. Do you train striking from the point of view of having several friends with you at all times? Do people jump in fast enough to keep you from suffering that first punch or throw?
johnnycache 1 year ago
@johnnycache Well I've only been in two fights, and everyone involved was extremely wasted. I doubt I will ever be in a fight sober because I'm smart enough to walk away. I'm a good competitive fighter 1v1 but in a group, where everyone has been drinking a lot, bjj doesn't do you much good...at least from my experiences.
jewspell 1 year ago
is this supposed to be funny?
loykianos 1 year ago
@loykianos -- YES!
DLe0110 1 year ago
I'm going to post on Sherdog about this disturbing new trend.
Inev123 1 year ago
Bad. Like so bad.
krwaring6 1 year ago
28,304 hits in 4 days? This is a viral sensation.
jamesclackton 1 year ago
i worked at a mma gym and theres so many jerks who do this
SouthPaw6687 1 year ago